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Speaker 1: I want your reaction to the Pirates just missing. On

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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, he signed with the Phillies five years, one

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Speaker 1: that's missing by twenty percent. And I don't believe they

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Speaker 1: At eight three three four one two WSDX, we barely

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Speaker 2: Uh huh uh huh.

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Speaker 1: But the Steelers are three and a half point favorites

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Speaker 2: Maybe. No, that's stupid and was way too convoluted.

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Speaker 2: And McDaniel their coach.

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Speaker 1: He might be a geeky looking guy, but I'd take

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Speaker 1: He's black Trump. He is black Trump. Tomlin is black Trump.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Mike Tomlin, the president, the Steelers coach are

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Speaker 2: And I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 1: is tradition with me. There's so many good stories with

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Speaker 2: Moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: But what I just said, them are all good stories, right, Okay?

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Speaker 1: The Steelers really left it up with Slay, really efted

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Speaker 2: Oh, Chador? Did I mention Shador?

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Speaker 1: Anderson needs to be named NFL commissioner.

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Speaker 3: You know it.

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Speaker 2: We're all gonna rock to the rules I make.

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Speaker 1: How you like it?

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Speaker 2: That exit one nine, it's.

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Speaker 4: The dog cart with all the dogs there, and then

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Speaker 1: And that has happened very decisively in the two days.

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Speaker 5: No chances.

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Speaker 1: right now they could win the ball, and they're hot.

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Speaker 1: They've won their last four, So I think this game

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Speaker 2: I think it's way too simple to do that now,

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Speaker 5: Well, Tomlin can't win a game in prime time.

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Speaker 2: Hey Mark, what up?

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Speaker 2: So thank you for that. I am a great guy.

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Speaker 2: How's your kid doing? Okay, he's doing a lot better.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, That's all I had. Mark, Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Mark Peng was at home tonight against Anaheim, joining me

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Speaker 1: hear anywhere. Always a pleasure to talk to. Pierre Maguire, Pierre,

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Speaker 1: how interested is Edmonton and Tristan Jarry, the Penguins goalie,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to now, he broke our hearts in eighty one. Pierre,

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Speaker 1: an odd stat The Penguins ran first in power play

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Speaker 6: think one of the things that the coaching staff probably

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Speaker 6: wants to get them to do. Spend more time than

433
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Speaker 6: the offenses on below the hashmarks sports the icing line

434
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 6: create more cycle opportunities there. That's usually where a lot

435
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 6: of penalties are called and maybe you know, get a

436
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 6: better transition game or a quicker transition game. So a

437
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 6: lot of players for the opposition may be hooking down

438
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 6: or holding. But it really is interesting that they do

439
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 6: not have more power play opportunities.

440
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Speaker 3: No question, the.

441
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Speaker 1: Penguins played really well at Dallas, didn't they And really

442
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Speaker 1: the whole three game road trip got five points out

443
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Speaker 1: of it.

444
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Speaker 6: Oh, I thought the Pengins were really good on this

445
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 6: road trip. They were fantastic. You know, A little bit

446
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 6: of divine intervention for Dallas, especially in the Miro haskin

447
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 6: and goal going off of dlakeerzot stick and passed Tristan Jarry.

448
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 6: But I thought, buying Lawyers, that was a really well

449
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 6: played game by Pittsburgh. That's a very good Dallas team,

450
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 6: I would say in the league right now, Colorado is won,

451
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 6: and you'd have to say that Dallas is probably number

452
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Speaker 6: two in terms of overall depth of organization the players

453
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Speaker 6: that they have. So that was a really good showing

454
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Speaker 6: on that entire will trip by the Pittsburgh Penguins.

455
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Speaker 1: The peng was lost in the shootout of Dallas and

456
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: have not lost four shootouts this year, eight straight dating

457
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: back the last season.

458
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Speaker 2: How do you fix that?

459
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: Because this time at one the goalie's fault, Jari only

460
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: conceded once in the three shots.

461
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

462
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 6: I can't stand the shootout, can I say that much?

463
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Speaker 1: I know I've been saying that for a couple of

464
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Speaker 1: years now. I think at the beginning it was a novelty,

465
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Speaker 1: but it's long since served its purpose.

466
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Speaker 6: I think one of the things that I'd like to

467
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Speaker 6: see and I think could be a good compromise A

468
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 6: lot of people are saying, go ten minutes of overtime.

469
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 6: I think that's too much. Let's go to seven minutes

470
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 6: like the American Hockey League does, and let's see if

471
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 6: we can't get a winner three on three after seven minutes.

472
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Speaker 6: I think they'd be a good compromise and it gets

473
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Speaker 6: a shootout right out of it.

474
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Speaker 1: But what said the Penguins do because Sid and La

475
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: Tang players, but they're just so predictable.

476
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Speaker 6: On the shooter to uh don't get to shootouts. I

477
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 6: don't know what else to tell you, you know, I

478
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Speaker 6: just I remember Mark, this will make you laugh because

479
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 6: got a Pittsburgh tie into it. I'm doing a Ranger

480
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Speaker 6: game and I think they're playing silly and Yarmer Yager

481
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: is part of the New York Rangers at the time,

482
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Speaker 6: and Tom Rennie's coaching the Rangers, and I hear Tom

483
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 6: say you're up, and Yarmoor goes, I'm not comfortable doing this.

484
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 6: I'm not doing this. And it was no secret around

485
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 6: the league. Yard didn't want to take shootouts, and he

486
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 6: didn't a lot of times he didn't. Sometimes he did,

487
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 6: but more times than not, he didn't want to do it.

488
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that ties back to sit in La Tango,

489
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: and I think they go by road. I think they

490
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: go because they're the team's best players, not because they're

491
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Speaker 1: good at shootouts. I think that applies to Gino when

492
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: he's healthy as well. So here's my two options here.

493
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Speaker 2: Let me see what you think. I try the kids

494
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: like Coyvenan and Kindle.

495
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Speaker 1: Coyvenan had a pretty good track record of it in

496
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Speaker 1: the AHL. Or they're practicing shootouts now, which the Penguins

497
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: did not do for a long time. I would base

498
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: it totally on how guys finish in competition doing shootouts

499
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: at practice.

500
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Speaker 6: Oh, I agree, but it's really hard to, you know,

501
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 6: do that theory and then bring it into a game.

502
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 6: I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't always work

503
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 6: out that way. I've tried it, you know, as a

504
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 6: coach too. I was part of the coaching staff when

505
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 6: the shootouts first came in, and you didn't, by the

506
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 6: way back in those days, any loser points. So if

507
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 6: you lost enough of them, it would really hurt your

508
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 6: ability to make the playoffs. People don't talk about that,

509
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 6: and coaches actually got those as losses on their record.

510
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 6: Now the coaches don't get those on their record as losses,

511
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 6: so it's you know, it's interesting how it's all played out.

512
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 6: But the Shore I was a conundrum for everybody. I'd

513
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 6: like to see it go away to be total franked.

514
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: Anaheims and Town. They made the Pacific Division. What's might

515
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: the Ducks come on strong this year.

516
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Speaker 6: They got the best free agent signing last summer, a

517
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 6: guy named Joe Quenda arguably one of the best coaches

518
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 6: we've had in the last twenty years in the National

519
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 6: Hockey League. The smartness of Patabeek to go out and

520
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 6: get up somebody like Chris Pridis and the New York Rangers.

521
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 6: I know people in Pittsburgh aren't goin of like this,

522
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 6: but Jacob Truebau is a very good addition for their team.

523
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 6: Radcope Gutis was a good addition to their team. And

524
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 6: I would say signing Alex Kloran a couple of years

525
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 6: ago was a great addition. But they've got young guys

526
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 6: all growing at the same time. Miss Leo Carlson, if

527
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 6: you haven't seen a play, he's special. Mason McTavish was

528
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 6: a great restricted tree agent signing for them in the summer.

529
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 6: Seneca as a tremendous first round pick who plays on

530
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 6: the right side with McTavish and Cutter Gocei. And if

531
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 6: you haven't seen Cutter Gorocei play, he's one of the

532
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 6: better young power forwards in the league. So they got

533
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 6: a lot going on there. They're battling a little bit

534
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 6: of an injury bug in the back end and goal

535
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 6: especially with the Stall not being ready. He's their number

536
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 6: one goalie. But they're they're a really good team. But

537
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you it all comes down in the orchestration.

538
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 6: They have the best reason signing of the summer Joel.

539
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Speaker 1: Quinvioll and Pierre I got to give a shout out

540
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: to Cutter Gotier because he's my favorite non Penguin because

541
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: he refused to play for the Flyers, and him and

542
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: some of the guys on that team, they show why

543
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: you don't give up on young guys or call him

544
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: a bust if they don't blossom right away, you got

545
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: to be patient. And I think Gaudier, Leo Carlson too,

546
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: they're evidence of that.

547
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 6: Oh, there's no question. But here's the thing I don't understand.

548
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 6: The people have said, well, Cutter Gocher revolved soo his

549
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 6: first year, he played one game because he played at

550
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 6: Boston College. He was almost won to Hovey Bakers. He

551
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 6: had one assist in one game play. I did a

552
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 6: research on it today. His second year, which was last year,

553
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 6: he played eighty two games. He had twenty goals and

554
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 6: twenty four assists on the non playoff team used plus eight.

555
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 6: This year, in twenty nine games, he got sixteen goals

556
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 6: and seventeen assists for thirty three points, and he's plus seventeen. Like,

557
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 6: I don't get what people are doing. Like you, I

558
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 6: know you watched the late games from the West coast.

559
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 6: I watch all of them, but I'm telling you most

560
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 6: people at the East aren't watching these games, and they

561
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 6: have no idea how good these players are.

562
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Speaker 1: Markets unbelievable, Pierre, here's a trade rumor that really has

563
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: me wonder. New Jersey wants to trade for Quinn Us

564
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: from Vancouver, the great defenseman and unite all three uses

565
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: on the Devils. What would New Jersey have to give

566
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: up for defenseman that's top three in the league.

567
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 6: Well, we all start, for sure, Nkoheisher, he'd be one

568
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 6: part of it. You probably have to deal a first

569
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 6: round pick. You probably have to trade Seamus Casey, who's

570
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 6: a young defenseman out of the University of Michigan, and

571
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 6: you probably have to put it. It'd be at least

572
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 6: four components. It could be five. He Sho would have

573
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 6: to be one of the components for sure, maybe even

574
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 6: Dawson Nurcer. But I can't see New Jersey doing that.

575
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 6: Kind of defeats the purpose. If you really want to know,

576
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 6: and I know it's fashionable, say oh, New Jersey, New Jersey,

577
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 6: New Jersey, because his two brothers are there, Jack and Luke.

578
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 6: I think Detroit makes way more sense. They have so

579
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 6: much more artillery, so much more that Vancouver could use.

580
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 6: And I especially the Swedish component with Patrick Alden, the

581
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 6: general manager in Vancouver, is very comfortable with because he

582
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 6: knows the body of work of those players so well.

583
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 6: I would be looking at Detroit honestly before i'd be

584
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 6: looking at New Jersey.

585
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have thousand percent agreed. But here's the catch.

586
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: The users seem hell bent on playing together at some

587
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: point somewhere, and that means that Vancouver could overcharge for

588
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: them with for him with New Jersey for sure. But

589
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: here's the problem. And I know you agree with this

590
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: how many times in hockey is a trade made, We're

591
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: the team that doesn't get the best player somehow wins

592
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: the deal anyway.

593
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: I can't give you an actual number, but it does happen.

594
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 6: I mean, look at Pittsburgh Penguin Lore Let's just do

595
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 6: let's just do the math. We traded two future Hall

596
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 6: of famers. I didn't do it. I was part of

597
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: it that Craig Patrick did it. Traded Mark Wrecky and

598
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 6: Paul Coffee, and we got back Rick Hackett, very good player,

599
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 6: but not a Hall of Famer. Shehelle Sanderson, very good

600
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 6: player but not a Hall of Famer, and Kenny Reagan.

601
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 6: We won the Stanley Cup in the President Trophy the

602
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 6: next year. You know, we want the Stanley Cup in

603
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: ninety two, in the President Trophy in ninety three. So

604
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 6: that's an example of you trade two Hall of famers

605
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 6: but your team building to get better plays. I don't

606
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: know exactly if that deal benefit Jersey or not in

607
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 6: long term, especially with the price point they'd have to

608
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 6: take that. I'll tell you one thing, Mark, I mean

609
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 6: this from the bottom of my heart. They haven't played

610
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: a playoff game in Detroit since twenty sixteen. I'm just

611
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 6: telling you that this kid's a Michigan kid. He grew

612
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: up in Ann Harbor, even though he's born in Toronto.

613
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: I thank Detroit needs this player more than Pittsburgh does

614
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 6: at this point, more than New Jersey does at this point,

615
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: and more than maybe Toronto does at this point. Detroit

616
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: really needs that player, Pierre.

617
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Who's the best team in the East, because I'm tempted

618
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: to say none of the above right now.

619
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Speaker 6: None of the above. We're on the same page.

620
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Who's the closest.

621
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 6: You know, Tampa was rolling now they've lost four in

622
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 6: a row. Lookout for Toronto. I know they're not in

623
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 6: a playoff position right now, but they're coming on strong.

624
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 6: Boston's been surprisingly good, the Islanders have done a great job.

625
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 6: But the probably and I'm gonna tell you this and again,

626
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 6: it's not because I'm with my friend Mark madder On

627
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 6: in my favorite city in the NASHA Hockey League, Pittsburgh.

628
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 6: But I will tell you right now, probably the best

629
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 6: early season story of the Pittsburgh Penguins. Most people did

630
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 6: not have them. They had them where Buffalo is right now.

631
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 6: If you want to know the truth, which is at

632
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 6: the bottom of the Eastern Conference. So hats off to

633
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: Dan Mus and his staff, and hats off to Kyle

634
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 6: Dubis and Jason Spetcher. They're doing a great job in Pittsburgh,

635
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 6: you know what. They're doing a really good job with

636
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 6: Wolfsbury too. And Will Horkoff is Shredding College.

637
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. How good is that? Kids?

638
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: Redding college hockey?

639
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: Is he a top six per Is he like a

640
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: first line wing?

641
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 6: Do you think I think he is? Yeah, especially at

642
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 6: his height. He's six four. They say sixty five, and

643
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 6: let's say he's closer than sixty four. But I watched

644
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 6: his dad play for a long time. His dad went

645
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 6: to Michigan STAD. His dad was a real good player

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Speaker 6: for Edmonton, finished off in Detroit. His dad was a

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Speaker 6: good player. This kid's got his dad's hockey since his

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Speaker 6: dad had a lot of good hockey sns. But this

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Speaker 6: Snugger run in him. Who's playing in Saint Louis right now.

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Speaker 6: He's the real deal, like this kid. This kid is

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Speaker 6: a top six score he is for sure.

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Speaker 1: Pierre has always terrific stuff. Enjoy the hockey. We'll do

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Speaker 1: it again next week.

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Speaker 6: No more shootouts. Tell the coaches, no more shootouts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks March, I'm going to rally the troops.

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