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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR now the WR Saturday

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Speaker 1: Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty.

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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome this Saturday morning. With ten days

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Speaker 1: before election day in New York City, we have the

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Speaker 1: independent candidate for mayor, former Governor Andrew Cuomo. Sir, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Governor. Good to be with you, Larry,

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Speaker 2: thank you for having me listen.

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Speaker 1: If you are to win, you're going to need Republicans

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Speaker 1: and conservatives to vote for you, and we've got tens

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Speaker 1: of thousands of them listening right now. What is your

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Speaker 1: pitch to them?

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Speaker 2: My pitch to them is, first of all, they know me.

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Speaker 2: I've represented them as governor's attorney general, etc. You know, Larry,

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Speaker 2: I don't represent people as a Democrat. As a Republican,

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Speaker 2: I represent you. I represent you. I'm trained as an attorney. Right,

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Speaker 2: you're my client. I'm going to fight for you, and

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Speaker 2: that's what I did as governor. Republicans, you know, the

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Speaker 2: talk nowadays is so partisan or your Democrat, you're a Republican. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm a New Yorker. I was New York Governor. I

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Speaker 2: had a Republican Senate. Everything I did, I negotiated with

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Speaker 2: the Republican Senate. I was hut Secretary. It was a

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Speaker 2: Republican Congress. Everything I did I negotiated with a Republican Congress.

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Speaker 2: I worked well with the Republicans. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: done and New York the Republicans are key, not just

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Speaker 2: in an election. They are a major part of the community,

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Speaker 2: and I work very well with them. I think if

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Speaker 2: the Republicans think about what they want in the next mayor,

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Speaker 2: public safety, hire more cops, clean the damn city up,

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Speaker 2: get jobs coming back, lower taxes. That's my agenda.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you, I'll be honest with you. Only

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, Governor. I don't think any of

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Speaker 1: the Republicans listening right now would vote for you on

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Speaker 1: your past and your experience alone. And your experience is extensive.

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Speaker 1: But they don't want zorin Mamdannie to be mayor. That's

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Speaker 1: what they're afraid of. They don't want to ruin this city.

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Speaker 1: Is that good enough for you? Is that reason good

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Speaker 1: enough for you?

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Speaker 2: Look, if you're saying you will only vote for me

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Speaker 2: because you dislike Zoron more, it's not flattering. I asked

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Speaker 2: that that's the Trump rationale. Right, He says, Zoron is

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Speaker 2: a communist and the last thing we can let happen

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Speaker 2: is a communist. I understand that, but and Larry, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I understand that, but I also think it overlooks Look

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Speaker 2: the Republicans. We can disagree about COVID. I made major,

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Speaker 2: major decisions where there was little information and you had

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Speaker 2: to make a call. I'm sure they can question decisions

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Speaker 2: that I made. I questioned I wouldn't. There are decisions

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Speaker 2: I made I wouldn't do again.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me get let me get into one thing

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Speaker 1: I know that they're upset about because I talked to

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Speaker 1: them all the time, And the biggest thing they're upset

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Speaker 1: about is casualist bail. And you were the innovator of

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Speaker 1: casualist bail. Now, I understand I've heard your interviews and

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Speaker 1: I know you've said that it's been changed six times

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Speaker 1: since then. Would you work as mayor to amend that,

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Speaker 1: to bring back either cashless bail to where it was

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Speaker 1: or just get.

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Speaker 2: Rid of it. Yeah, First, don't say cashless bail. There's

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Speaker 2: no such thing. It was bail reform, which was no

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Speaker 2: cash bail for a non serious, nonfelony crime, meaning if

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Speaker 2: you were charged with a non serious, nonviolent crime, no

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Speaker 2: it was no harm done, and you haven't been found

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Speaker 2: guilty of anything, then we're not gonna put you in

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Speaker 2: rikers just because you can't make bail, especially if we

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Speaker 2: have no reason to believe you're not gonna come back.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was. My first proposal six years ago,

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Speaker 2: said Caveat. The judge should have discretion to say, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I think this person is dangerous, and therefore

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Speaker 2: I'm going to hold the person anyway. The legislature refused

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Speaker 2: to do that because they thought it would be the

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Speaker 2: loophole that swallowed the law. They had a supermajority. They

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Speaker 2: could have overridden me, and they would have passed a

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Speaker 2: worst bill. I negotiated the best bill I could, and

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Speaker 2: I signed it. In retrospect. I wouldn't have signed it

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Speaker 2: without discretion, the judicial discretion. It would have kept more

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Speaker 2: pressure on them to make changes faster. That was six

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Speaker 2: years ago. They have rewritten the law four years ago,

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Speaker 2: four times. That's why I say, you know, I did bail,

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Speaker 2: but would you.

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Speaker 1: Would you fight to fix it now? Would you do

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Speaker 1: everything you can to fix it?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Because I do believe in judicial discretion.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, you know what, I think most people

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Speaker 1: believe that for you to win, and we'll see what

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Speaker 1: the most recent polls are going to say, Curtis has

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Speaker 1: to jump out of the race. Can you many times

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Speaker 1: when you've talked about this, you've been insulting to Curtis

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Speaker 1: Lee when I don't think that's going to work. Can

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Speaker 1: you convince him or can or I even heard you

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Speaker 1: talk about a possible coalition with him and that you

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Speaker 1: would accept that. What are you willing to do to

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Speaker 1: get Curtously with a drop out of the race, and

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Speaker 1: what would you say to him?

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Speaker 2: Larie, I have not going to talking to Curtis Leewa.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Curtis Sliwa. I never had a conversation

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Speaker 2: with the man. I only know what I've seen in

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Speaker 2: the newspapers. I think, you know, the Guardian Angels was

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Speaker 2: a good concept. You know, my father was very My

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Speaker 2: father was governor when I started UH and I was

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Speaker 2: working with my father and he was very supportive of

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Speaker 2: the Guardian Angels when I started. So I've never been

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Speaker 2: critical of Curtis. I do believe that Curtis cannot win

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Speaker 2: this race. There is no numercal way for it to happen.

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Speaker 2: So my point is, you know, sometimes it's not just

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Speaker 2: about us and how you go uh, and that if

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Speaker 2: what he's trying to accomplish is better the city, then

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Speaker 2: go back to your point. Life as options Mio Mondami,

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Speaker 2: and he will take votes that will make Zoran a winner,

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Speaker 2: and that is an existential threat.

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Speaker 1: To New York Absolutely independent candidate for Mayor of New

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Speaker 1: York City, former Governor Andrew Cuomo.

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