1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: That's us. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 2: What's up? 3 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 3: Four after three? We're actually starting the show on time today. 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thank you for listening. Hopefully 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: all right, Hopefully you had a great weekend, and hopefully 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: you're not outside. I was grilling out yesterday afternoon. I 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: cut my grass for the first time this year. And 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: today here in Kenwood it is snowing. Show preview is 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: available right now at Mogar. Thanks to share Facts Credit Union, 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: become a member of Shareffacs credit Union, gonna sharefacs dot Org. 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: Paul Dayner Junior is going to be on the show 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: in an hour now. Typically Paul is with us in 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: studio on Tuesdays. I am taking tomorrow off, so Paul's 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 3: gonna join us instead of in studio tomorrow on the 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: phone at four h five. And he has been obviously 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: very very busy covering everything the Bengals have been doing, 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: and talking about what the Bengals haven't done and looking 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: ahead to what's next. We'll do a version of that 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: with Paul coming up in one hour. Show preview is 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: available at Moeger. Watch it now and then good to 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 3: share facts dot Org and become a member of share 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: Facts Credit Union just like me. Travis Steele is going 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 3: to be on the show in fifteen minutes. The Miami RedHawks, 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: I think, to no in surprise qualified for the NCAA Tournament. 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: They'll play and dating against SMU on Wednesday. I don't 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: know if it's a shock that they're playing in the 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: first flour. I don't know if it's necessarily bad that 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: they're playing in the first flour. Obviously, Travis and his 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: players and if you're a Miami fan, you would have 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: preferred they play on Thursday or Friday. Now they have 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: to earn their way to Friday. But I think the 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: general consensus was when they lost to UMass that they 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: were still going to make the NCAA Tournament. They deserve 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: to be in the NCAA Tournament, and they have more 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: than a puncher's chance against SMU. The RedHawks or last 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: I saw six and a half point underdogs. It doesn't 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 3: feel like, and this has been the case for a while, 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like there was an egregious snub, and 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: like there's a difference between a snub and an exclusion. 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: There were teams that were excluded. Basically all the teams 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: that didn't make it were excluded. A snub is someone 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: where you're like, you know what, that team or that guy, 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: they had such a convincing case to make it that 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: it's wrong that they didn't get in. If you look 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: at the teams that were on the last four outs 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: or I guess first four out, you're looking at Auburn 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: with a seven and eleven conference record. You're looking at 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: Indiana with a nine and eleven conference record. You're looking 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: at Oklahoma with a game run in the SEC tournament 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: falling to Arkansas, a seven and eleven SEC record in 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: the regular season. We're talking about teams that lost fifteen games, 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: sixteen game games, fourteen games. San Diego State also one 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: of the next four out or one of the last 54 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: four out with eleven losses. 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Though a good record in the league fourteen and six. 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Like I've held on to this since I was a kid, 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: and I thought I was gonna have to remind folks 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: of this last week when it looked like maybe the 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: Bearcats would have a chance. My take on this since 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: I was a young man has been if you don't 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: make the NCAA Tournament, I don't feel sorry for you. 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: Win more games. 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: The criteria as much as we could talk about metrics 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: and all the different things that go into determining who's 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: gonna make it, where teams are gonna be seated, and 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: where they're going to go. Win more games. If you 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: didn't make the tournament, win more games. And I know 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: I could say this from a relative place of comfort 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: because there's really only been one time in my life 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: when as a UC fan, the Bearcats were just on 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: the outside looking in. They've obviously been on the outside 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: looking in for a while now, but we knew that. 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: You woke up yesterday on Selection Sunday thinking there's no 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: chance you see is gonna have its name. Two thousand 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: and six, the Andy Kennedy year, they were barely on 76 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: the outside looking in. If Jerry McNamara doesn't make that 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: shot in the Biggies Tournament, or if the Bearcats win 78 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: a late season road game against a bad Seaton Hall 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: team that year, the Bearcats probably go dancing. Might take 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: that year was you know what, win more games? And 81 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: so that's how I feel about Auburn. So I feel 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: about Oklahoma, So how I feel about Indiana, it's how 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: I feel about you see, for what it's worth, win 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: more games. It would have been almost impossible for Miami 85 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: to do that had Miami not gotten in. I don't 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: want to go as far as to say, well, it 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: illustrates how broken college basketball is. But come on, so 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: they're in and you know, not only And I feel 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: like we do this every year. Every year we hear 90 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: about how weak the bubble is. Our guy Hunter Sansum, 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: the official bracketologist of the Tri State, is going to 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: join us at five twenty. Every year you hear terms 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: like softest bubble ever, weak bubble. But like the cases 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: for the teams that didn't make it, and maybe in 95 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: some cases the cases for the teams that did make 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: it were so underwhelming. It's why devoting a lot of 97 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: attention and breath to the case for or against Auburn 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: was I felt like kind of pointless. And same for 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: Oklahoma and same for Indiana. And I don't think anybody 100 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: really made it for uc because their fate was sealed 101 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: when they lost that game to UCF on Wednesday, and 102 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: the fate of West Miller seemed to be sealed when 103 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: they lost that game the way they did on Wednesday. 104 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: But like the bar to get to the tournament, I 105 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: don't think has ever been easier to clear. And we 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: can make that about the barricads. We can make that 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: about Xavier if you want where Richard Patino's gotta You 108 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: don't want to say necessarily start fresh, but they need 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: an infusion of talent. By the way, if you look 110 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: at that league this year, frankly, the quality of the 111 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: league is one of the reasons why a Saint John's 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: team might have been under seated relative to what it 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: had accomplished, relative to what they've been putting on the floor. 114 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 3: The league itself, top to bottom isn't great. The bar 115 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: to clear to get to the tournament isn't very high. 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: So like you see next season and it feels like 117 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna be Jared Calhoun. I think everybody at this 118 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: point would be surprised if it's not the head coach 119 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: at Utah State whose team plays Villanovn in the first 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: round of the tournament. Like this is part of why 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: it's so frustrating at times talk about the Bearcats, and 122 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: it's part of why you could feel pretty encouraged that 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: a quick turnaround can happen. No guarantee that it will. 124 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: Right now, it's get to the NCAA tournament I was 125 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: thinking about this on Friday because it was one of 126 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: the few things we didn't talk about. We did a 127 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: show on Friday that was about an hour and twenty 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: minutes long and mostly focused on UC basketball. But it's like, 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: you know, you think back to when they had a 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: coaching change at the end of the twenty nineteen season. 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: Mick Cronin moved on, and there were a lot of 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: Bearcat fans, maybe most who were relieved and maybe in 133 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: some cases happy, Like I remember that. It's like, well, 134 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: you know what, fine, thanks to Mick for everything that 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: he's done, but he can't get pass round one. Certainly 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: can't get past round two. Got to get past the 137 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: first weekend. We're not doing that with the new head 138 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: coach at U. See, we're just talking about getting there. 139 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: Do what Miami is doing. Play in Dayton, be team 140 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: number sixty eight. The bar has never been easier to clear. 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: And by the way, this doesn't even factor in the 142 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: possibility or the likelihood perhaps of tournament expansion to seventy 143 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: two or seventy six or however many teams they ultimately 144 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: expand to. If you're watching college hoops this weekend, which 145 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: this is my favorite weekend on the sports calendar because 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: of the volume of games and the quality of games 147 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: and the desperation that teams play with. But you're seeing 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: last gasp efforts by very flawed teams like Oklahoma, like IU, 149 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: like Auburn teams that it's really hard to feel sorry 150 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: for him. You just got to be in that mix 151 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: and then clear that bar to team number sixty eight, 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: play in Dayton, and then go from there. But anyway, 153 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: congratulations to Miami. The RedHawks deserved and deserved to be 154 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: in the tournament. We'll talk with Travis Steele coming up 155 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: in just about eight minutes. Danner's gonna join us at 156 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 3: four o'clock. I would have lost a lot of money 157 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: one week ago. One week ago, we found out that 158 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: the Bengals had pretty aggressively attacked two areas of need. 159 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: They needed an edge guy boy a mafe. They went 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: and got him. Many many have compared him to Trey 161 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: Hendrickson twenty twenty one, and that's legitimate and fair. But 162 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: they at the very least needed an edge guy. We 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 3: could talk about how they're paying him, but they needed 164 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: an edge guy. They got an edge guy. They needed 165 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: a safety. They got a safety By the way, good 166 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: luck to Gino Stone, more specifically, good luck to Bill's 167 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: fans watching genostone play in Buffalo, and they replace Geno 168 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: Stone effectively with Brian Cook, which awesome, great, that's cool 169 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: as hell. And then at that point, I think for 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: most of us, instantly we started to ask what's next, 171 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: specifically what happens now at linebacker? Almost exactly one week later, 172 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: think about it. It was about this time last Monday 173 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: we were finding out about the two guys the Bengals got, 174 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: and after we high fived each other, after we sent 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: the joyous tweet, whatever it was, I think most of 176 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 3: us instantly started to go, Okay, what's next, who's the linebacker? 177 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: One week later, the answer is Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight. 178 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, nothing against those two guys in 179 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: their perspective NFL futures. I cannot find anybody who wants 180 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: to just abandon those dudes, move on from them, cut 181 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: them like they drafted them. You don't expect the team 182 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: to move on from them after one season, But to 183 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: get this deep into free agency and have no one 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: else feels well, if I'm putting it mildly, like a 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: very dicey proposition, and if I'm being harsh, kind of 186 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: feels like malpractice, like what they're doing at linebacker right now, 187 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: and things could change. For what it's worth, Bobby Wedner 188 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: is still out there unsigned, but it feels like a 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: very perilous approach, doesn't it doesn't it remind you of 190 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: what they did with the entire defense last year with 191 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: just those two players. More on that coming up in 192 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: just a bit. We got we have had a lot 193 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: of guests over the last week or so. We will 194 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: scream screaming. We will squeeze in some phone calls today 195 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty and eight 196 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: six six, seven oh two three seven, seven six. You 197 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: have some weirdness at red Spring Training. You have the 198 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: continued resurgence of Matt McLain that we've got to get to. 199 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: We've got the World Baseball Classic, we have Cincinnati laying 200 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: a total egg, and lots of college hoops has well. 201 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: Between now and six o'clock, you can send a tweet 202 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: at Moeger thanks to Delta Dental. Delta Dental is building healthy, smart, 203 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: vibrant communities for all. Good to Delta Dental, oh dot com. 204 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: He has taking the Miami RedHawks of the NCAA Tournament, 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: and he'll join us next. Travis Steele my guest when 206 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: we come back. 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You can always listen on 222 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. The Miami RedHawks men's basketball team in 223 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: the NCAA Tournament for the first time in nineteen years. 224 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: Travis Steele's team will take on SMU and the second 225 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: game played in Dayton on Wednesday night, the head coach 226 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: of the RedHawks, during a very busy time, kind enough 227 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: to join us. Let's, uh, let's go back to last night. 228 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: Miami pops up on the screen. What was going through 229 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: your head? 230 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: Surreal? 231 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: You know, just jubilant, happy, you know, just happy for 232 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: our guys. Man that they get to get a reward 233 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: for all of the efforts and all the sacrifice. 234 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: That they've dot that they've made. 235 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: And man, just really really happy that they're going to 236 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: have this experience and now we got capitalized on it. 237 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: Though, you know, I'm starting here in Dayton. 238 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: From Thursday afternoon in Cleveland to yesterday in Oxford, was 239 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: there at all any anxiety that you would maybe not 240 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: get the result you were hoping for? 241 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't. I thought we were in. 242 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 5: I thought we were firmly in and I uh meane, 243 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 5: we won thirty one regular season games. I mean that's 244 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: when undefeated. We're one of I think, one of only 245 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 5: fourteen since two thousand to do that, and uh, it 246 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 5: would have been unprecedent for us not to be in, 247 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 5: you know, so I felt good about it. But at 248 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: the same time. You know, I'll listen to your hands. 249 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 5: Your life's in the hands of others, you know, Like 250 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: we didn't take advantage of our opportunity up in Cleveland, 251 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: and and so then all of a sudden, you know, 252 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: we didn't control our own destiny, which is always a 253 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 5: little bit. 254 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: You know, scary. But I but I did feel good 255 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: about it. 256 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 5: I still went to Winston's my my seventh grader's soccer games, 257 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 5: and I played that all weekend. And then we had 258 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: a really good practice on Sunday. So because I was 259 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 5: anticipating the obvioice us being in the sublay terms, we 260 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: have practice on Sunday, a very spirited one, and I 261 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: thought we were able to take a couple of days off, 262 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: which was good to get us mentally and fresh and 263 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: physically fresh air for this final run. 264 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: What's it like when you're talking to a team in 265 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: the aftermath of a loss when they haven't suffered one 266 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: all season. 267 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Long, Oh man, total shock shocked, you know, obviously, very 268 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: very upset. 269 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: Tons of emotion in the room. And I didn't say 270 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 5: a ton to our guys afterwards. When there's when there's 271 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: that much emotion in the room and you think he 272 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: got to keep it short and sweet. I told him 273 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: we'd get back together at the hotel. You know, guys 274 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 5: were crying and and comeded. We put a lot into 275 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 5: this thing, man, and I think, you know, but we 276 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: didn't earn the right to win that day. We weren't 277 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: physical enough, and we weren't the team that we've been 278 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: all year long. And it's still was a one possession 279 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: game and they get twenty four second chance points, you know. 280 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: So it's like, I think the biggest thing for us, 281 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: like I told our guys at the hotel, was like, listen, 282 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: our season isn't over. 283 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,359 Speaker 1: This isn't the end. We need to learn. 284 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 5: From this though, And I said, if there's any if 285 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 5: I see anybody like have a sad face or down 286 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: and gloom over the next couple of days, and then 287 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 5: then then we have no chance in the Ntula turn. 288 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: We got to move on. 289 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: We have to get to learn from it, own it, 290 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: move on and get better from it. 291 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: So but it was very emotional. 292 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: Initially the last few weeks, with all the attention your 293 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: program has gotten, all the close games you've played in 294 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: that Game of the year in Athens, even what happened 295 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: on Thursday, you guys have been walking this tight rope 296 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: down for a while. So so how does that help 297 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: you on Wednesday and hopefully beyond. 298 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 5: Well, I think Mark, there's a lot of close games, right, 299 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: can you operate in tight moments? And we can and 300 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: we've shown that a lot this year. We've won in 301 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: different ways. We won games in the sixties, running game 302 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 5: in the nineties, you know, hundreds, you know, like we 303 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 5: can win a lot of different ways, which is good. 304 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 5: But I think the biggest thing for our guys, and 305 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 5: I like I've told them is every possession is basically 306 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: a life of its own right, and and you've got 307 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: to have that possession toughness. Or if we are up 308 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: by eight, nine, ten, that next possession shift is important 309 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 5: as if we were down by four six in a 310 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: tight game, right, can we maintain that possession toughness throughout 311 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 5: the game. 312 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: And then so I'm like, tournament if we can do that, 313 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: and then I like our odds. 314 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: Walk me through. 315 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: So you know, last night, six twenty whatever it was, 316 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: there's Miami. You guys hug high five, embrace and then 317 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: you got to you got to turn the page quickly. 318 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: You got to get to work. So just since uh, 319 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: since last night to today? What is what's it been like? 320 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: What's the process been like preparing for an opponent that 321 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: you just found out about less than twenty four hours ago. 322 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just use all hands on deck. 323 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: You know, we got a great staff, and you obviously 324 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 5: get the stats. I'll printed out everything, all the analytical 325 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: data you take. I always start there, always look at that, 326 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 5: try to get familiar with their roster. Who do they 327 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: have on their team. We call coaches in their league 328 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 5: or that have played them, just to get a verbal scout, 329 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: you know, on on on what their strengths and weaknesses are, 330 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: different things like that. Well, then we start watching diamond film. 331 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 5: You know, I've watched six fool games here since since 332 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 5: we drew SMU because they're a little bit unique because 333 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 5: their one young man's been injured edwards the last four 334 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 5: or five games, and I think he's going to play. 335 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: I guess that's when we have to prepare that way. 336 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: So we had to go back deeper into the season 337 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 5: to watch when he played right, because I. 338 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Think that's really parts. 339 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 5: They played a little bit differently offensively and defensively when 340 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 5: they had him, because. 341 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: They were playing a little bit smaller at the four, So. 342 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: Just trying to dissect to come up with a game 343 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 5: plan offensively defensively. What's our plan? How can we attack 344 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 5: these guys? 345 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: You know, like. 346 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 5: Obviously we are who we are, it's more about But 347 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 5: at the same time, you've got to be able to 348 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: steal probably eight to ten points in a game like 349 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: this in order to advance. So those little things matter. 350 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 5: And then are getting our guys to understand their personnalit 351 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: and just learning it. 352 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: We'll be learning that today. 353 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: So again we know the him and season and have 354 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: to close out on them. 355 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: You're a qualifyed to answer this question having been a 356 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 3: video coordinator, How is the process different now as opposed 357 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 3: to when you first got into the business. When you 358 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 3: find out about an opponent, you've got to you've got 359 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: to prepare in a very short amount of time for 360 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: a game on Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. 361 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: Well, when I was at Indiana University, MO, we'd have 362 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: to go like exchange them physically. I would drive, I 363 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 5: would drive and meet somebody you know, like you know, 364 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 5: whatever we had to do because it was just such 365 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: a quick turnaround to your point. 366 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, obviously now. 367 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: VHS tapes and DVDs are out the window. So now 368 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 5: everything's done online. We can just download a game within 369 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 5: five minutes. 370 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: I have a game on my laptop. 371 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: It's insane, and you know it just at the click 372 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 5: of a mouse, all of a sudden, you got it. 373 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: Man. 374 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 5: I wish they would have had that technology back when 375 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 5: I was at Indiana University. Would have saved me a 376 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 5: lot of mileage. 377 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of time. 378 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: I love hearing those old stories. 379 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: I love hearing those old stories about you know, trying 380 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: to stop tapes and you know, sometimes they get stuck 381 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: in the mail and you have to go drive somewhere. 382 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: You obviously, in an ideal world, you're playing on Thursday 383 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: or Friday first, but it still has to be awfully 384 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: fun for the Miami community to get a chance to 385 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: come watch your guys play at U the Arena. And 386 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's something about that atmosphere that, even though 387 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: I think everybody wishes you weren't in the first four 388 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: that you have to be looking forward to. 389 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's it's special for our fans. I mean, 390 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 5: to be able to have a game that's fifteen minutes 391 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 5: away from our university. Obviously a kind of Miami Alumni 392 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: and Dayton and in Cincinnati Columbus and they can drive 393 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 5: to an institably tournament game to watch their team play. 394 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, how cool is that. 395 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 5: It's gonna be sold out, It'll be a home game 396 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 5: for us. 397 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome, man, I'll be honest. It's so 398 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: when I. 399 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 5: Was at Xavier Lloy played in the in the in 400 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: Dayton we played NC State. 401 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the year long. I'm sure year twenty fourteen. 402 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: I was going to say fourteen. 403 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Stainbrook was a senior and Stainbrook was battling injury. 404 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: We're kind of limping. 405 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: Into the n SO Double as we didn't know if 406 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 5: we were going to get in or not. And I 407 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: would tell you that was the best atmosphere intuba tournament 408 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 5: wise that I've ever been a part of. 409 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Better than the Elite. 410 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: Eights, better than the sixteens, because those buildings are so 411 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 5: enormous and you're so far away, whether you're in San Jose, 412 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 5: California or Atlanta, and it just doesn't have the same 413 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 5: atmosphere the ones in Dayton, man are like it is 414 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 5: an absolute zoo in there. 415 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be a lot of fun. Man. 416 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: We're really looking forward to it. 417 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: Need a better result than twenty fourteen. That's all I 418 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: say about that. 419 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we do we do this funny Chris Mac back 420 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: back texting me. 421 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: Mac mavertext and back and forth, and he said, he 422 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: goes man. He said, good luck man, He said, you 423 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: got you gotta do better than we did. 424 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Against in DC. 425 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: I remember it well, rooting for a better result on Wednesday. 426 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: I know you have a thousand things going on, so 427 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: I can't thank you enough for doing this. Congratulations, and 428 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: we'll do it against SOM Coach, thanks so much, thanks 429 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: for having me ONBO you got a Travis Deel head 430 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: coach of the Miami RedHawks. Will play SMU Wednesday night 431 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: at ud Arena. That game is going to tip off 432 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: right around nine fifteen. 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I know it's 449 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: going to be like one thousand degrees in Arizona. It 450 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: is rough outside here in Cincinnati. Andrew Abbott's going to 451 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: take the ball for the Reds first pitch coming up 452 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 3: at four to ten. More on that coming up in 453 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: just a second. The World Baseball Class. It continues with 454 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: the second semi final tonight, Venezuela taking on Italy college 455 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: basketball news. Former Xavier and Ohio State head coach bad 456 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: Mada is going to retire. Obviously, has spent the last 457 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: few seasons as the head coach at Butler. His career 458 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: includes twelve NCAA tournament appearances and five hundred and two 459 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: coaching victories. Congratulations to Thad, who I once to his 460 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: face called Chad. That would have been like two thousand 461 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: and three, twenty five away from five o'clock. A few 462 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: interesting Reds items the spring of Matt McClain has continued. 463 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: What's happening with Chase Burns though I think is right 464 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: now at the top of mind of most where the 465 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: Reds have decided to sort of deload Chase Burns, if 466 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: you will. So he was made a start on Friday, 467 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: spring training start and they pulled him after just twenty 468 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: four pitches because they don't like his range of motion 469 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: with his throwing arm. 470 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: And so. 471 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: It seems perhaps unlikely that he is going to start 472 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: the season in the starting rotation, and one might argue 473 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 3: that it's unlikely that he starts the season on the 474 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: opening day roster. See Trent Rosecrans of the Athletic did 475 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: his latest opening day roster projection and did not have 476 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: Chase Burns on it. Now, this may be fine. Brandon 477 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: Williamson has had a nice spring. There's certainly a lot 478 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: to like about Rhet Louder. We've talked a lot about 479 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: Red's starting rotation depth, and the likelihood is the Reds 480 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: are going to need more than just five and that's 481 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: not even factoring in Hunter Green's injury issue. But the 482 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: Chase Burns thing I think is going to be worth 483 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: following and paying attention to. Not because not because Chase 484 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: Burns can't help this team this year, but you do 485 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: wonder if there's a range of motion issue, does that 486 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: suggest that there's something medically that's going to bubble to 487 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: the surface at some point in the coming weeks, And 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 3: you certainly hope that the answer is no. But like, 489 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 3: let's be honest, when you see at this stage of 490 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: spring training we are going to ratchet back the workload 491 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: a little bit, and then there's a range of motion 492 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: problem that the Reds have seen. Like good for them 493 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: for maybe nipping it in the bud, but you can't help. 494 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: But wonder why is there a range of motion issue 495 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 3: and why do they feel the need to quote deload 496 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: him with opening day less than two weeks away. That's 497 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: worth paying attention to. Also, whenever you read anything about 498 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: Noel v Marte from Tito Francona. The endorsements of his 499 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: defense and right field aren't exactly ringing, and like this 500 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: is a storyline. Noelve Marte was shoved into right field 501 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: last year with no prior professional baseball experience at that position. 502 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: Now he did make I was gonna say arguably, but 503 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: I don't think it's arguably the catch of the year 504 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: for the Reds in that last home game against Pittsburgh 505 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: that they badly had to have and that they nearly 506 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 3: coughed up and might have if not for a great 507 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: Noelle ve Marte catch, an iconic moment of that season. 508 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: But he's not a train right fielder, and he has 509 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: struggled with routes to the ball angles that sort of 510 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: stuff that's worth paying attention to. The other thing that 511 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: is worth paying attention to. And you know, nobody makes 512 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: a big deal or too big of a deal, or 513 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: should they over spring training results. Matt McClain hit his 514 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: sixth spring training home run yesterday, and nobody is guaranteeing 515 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: that his numbers are going to look like they look 516 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: right now in Arizona. That would be almost impossible. But 517 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: I think he used a Cactus league to look for 518 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: signs and with Matt McClain, you're simply looking for a 519 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: sign can this guy. 520 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: Live up to his importance. 521 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: The importance of this guy to this team cannot be overstated. 522 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: He is supposed to be the two hole hitter. Red's 523 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: two hole production last year was atrocious. He is supposed 524 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: to be the everyday second basement. Not that he's not 525 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 3: going to get some work and a short stop, but 526 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: he's supposed to be the everyday second basement. Like you know, 527 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: maybe he's going to put up all star caliber numbers. 528 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: But this whole thing about well, Matt McClain twenty twenty 529 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: three was their best player. The idea since then has 530 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 3: been for him to make a leap, and now the 531 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: idea is for him to not go through a repeat 532 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: of what we saw last year. And maybe you attribute 533 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: what he went through last year to injuries, not playing 534 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: at all in twenty twenty four, whatever it was. So 535 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: what you're looking for this spring are signs that suggest 536 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 3: he's put all of those issues, whether they're physical, mental, 537 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: or approach based behind him. That's a really good sign. 538 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 3: And now we're talking about him being back in the 539 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: two spot and if the Reds two hole production is 540 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: better and they get the pop from the middle of 541 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: the order that I feel like they're counting on, then 542 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 3: maybe this offense can can take off just a little bit. 543 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 3: But the Chase Burns thing is is worth monitoring, keeping 544 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: an eye on. By the way, I think most would 545 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: have wagered against him not being on the roster on 546 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: opening day, and now that feels like a plausible outcome. 547 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that he can help the team 548 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: this year. 549 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that it can have a really, really 550 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: good season this coming season. But I don't know, man, 551 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: it's worth, It's worth keeping a somewhat skeptical eye on. 552 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: The World Baseball Classic has been thoroughly entertaining, and I 553 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: will admit to you, like this time of year World 554 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: Baseball Classic versus you know, end of season college hoops. 555 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: I'm more into the end of season college hoops. But 556 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: I think, like most people I know, I've watched more 557 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic games this season, and I've paid closer 558 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: attention to the tournament than in any other year. Last night, 559 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: you had this extraordinarily entertaining and tense, high stakes semi 560 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: final game played in front of an awesome crowd that 561 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: was very much pro Dominican in Miami. A great game 562 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: with great defense, interesting strategy, two really good lineups being 563 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: held in Bay and unfortunately the last pitch a called 564 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: strike thrown from Mason Miller to a Heraldo Perdomo that 565 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: should have been called a ball, that was called a 566 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: game ending strike three. The United States wins, they advance 567 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: to the final. They'll play either Venezuela or Italy. Now 568 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: I do understand why the ABS is not being used 569 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: in the World Baseball Classic, because it's it takes a 570 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: lot of effort to calibrate the ABS based on the 571 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: physical dimensions of all the players involved. And there's twenty 572 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: teams in this tournament. A lot of guys like I 573 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: get it. At the same time, you're playing meaningless spring 574 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: training games that utilize ABS, and in this event, the 575 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic, which through a lot of hard work 576 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: you've built to be must watch for anybody who cares 577 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: about baseball, You've got this system being used in spring 578 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: training games and it can't be can't be implemented in 579 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: time for the World Baseball Classic. But what's a shame 580 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: about it is? And I'm for the most part the 581 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: anti replay guy, But if we have to have play. 582 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: I think the ABS system is more than acceptable. It's 583 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: not very intrusive. Not going to see it on a 584 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: pitch in and pitch out, you know, recurrence during the season. 585 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: But what you hate about that game last night is 586 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: the takeaway from the game last night is the game 587 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: shouldn't have ended on a pitch that was called a strike. 588 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: That shouldn't have been called a strike. 589 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: Bummer. 590 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: Hopefully that's not the case tonight. Hopefully that's not a case, 591 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: not the case in the final. We had some really 592 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: awesome stuff last week Friday, we were on. We got 593 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: on about four forty, but Chad Brendle was all over 594 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: the West Miller stuff, Terry Nelson as well. If you 595 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: missed either of those conversations, you can go get them 596 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app. Also spent some time on Bengals 597 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: free agency with both Kelsey Conway and Paul Dayner Junior, 598 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: and both were reacting to what had happened to that 599 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: point when we had them on. Both were asked about 600 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: what's going to happen now at linebacker. We're still wondering 601 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen, if anything, at linebacker. But you could 602 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: still listen to those conversations and so much more. They 603 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: are available right now on the iHeartRadio app. You could 604 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: also get them on my page at ESPN fifteen thirty 605 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: dot com. Podcasts of this show are as always a 606 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: service of Longneck Sports Grill. It's Monday, take advantage of 607 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: eight dollars domestic pictures in freepool all day today, and 608 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: don't forget March Madness starting tomorrow clear through the weekend. 609 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: At Longneck Sports Grill three locations. 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The World Baseball Classic NBA 627 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: means I missed the Oscars for a thirty first consecutive year. 628 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: Nothing against the Oscars. 629 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: Just now. 630 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: Better than the Oscars will be our show on Thursday. 631 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: We've done this every year for the last fourteen years, 632 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: broadcasting from the Holy Grail on the first Thursday of 633 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament. Now it's not this shows, it's a 634 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: special show that we do starting at ten o'clock in 635 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: the morning and we go until noon and then we 636 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: hang out and watch college basketball all day. So join 637 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: us and the best thing we do now thanks to 638 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: our friends at Corus Light for putting on this show. 639 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: We're on the year. 640 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: At ten we'll preview the tournament, break down, the bracket, 641 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. But we've also done this 642 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: every single year that if you're one of the first 643 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 3: sixty four people in the door, because by then there 644 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: will be sixty four teams left. We will give you 645 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: a team and if your team wins the national title, 646 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: you will win a weekend golf get away from Bertram 647 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: Golf Packages. Go to Bertram goolf Packages dot com. So 648 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 3: that's pretty good now. And over the years, I've had 649 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: people reach out to me and go, I can't make it. 650 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: Can I get a team? No no, no, no no no 651 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: no no no no, you got to you gotta get there. 652 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: Oh I want to get there, but by my friend, 653 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: my friend can't get there little no, no, no, no, 654 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: you're If your friend wants a team, he or she 655 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: will get to the Holy Grail in time for our 656 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: show that starts at ten o'clock. So make sure you 657 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 3: get your team. They're drawn at random. You could trade 658 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 3: one team for another. If somebody else has a team 659 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: you won, they're willing to do business with you. But 660 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: that's how it's gonna work. We'll see you on Wednesday morning. 661 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: Show goes on at ten, takes you up to Sincy 662 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: three sixty at noon. We are looking forward to it. 663 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: Paul Dayner Junior is going to join us in just 664 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: about twelve minutes. A week ago at this time, we 665 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 3: were wondering what's going to happen at linebacker, And right 666 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: now it feels like what's going to happen at linebacker 667 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: is a heavy doubling down on Barreck Carter and Demetrius Night. 668 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: Now they could attack linebacker in the draft. There are 669 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: still some players out there they could go get. But 670 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 3: let's be honest. When free agency started, I think most 671 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: of us expected some activity at that position. Maybe it 672 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: wasn't going to involve a guy at the top of 673 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: the list, but it was going to involve them doing something. 674 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: Over the last week, they've. 675 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: Done nothing, and it has felt like their interest in 676 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: some of the players that a lot of us thought 677 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: were going to be really good fits was not proportionate 678 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: to our interest in those players. And so now what 679 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 3: Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight, Now, what you're gonna hear 680 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: a lot is well, toward the end of the season, 681 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 3: those guys played better. 682 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: And they did. 683 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: And toward the end of the season, those guys played 684 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 3: well enough to make you feel like, Okay, maybe there's 685 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: something to salvage there. But I don't think any one 686 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: of us watched those players and said to ourselves, you 687 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: know what, they're good there. They don't need guidance from 688 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: a veteran player, they don't need an infusion of leadership 689 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 3: of even talent at that position. They're good there. What 690 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 3: it feels like they've done. And this is maybe unfair, 691 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: maybe it's an oversimplification, but last season they looked at 692 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: that defense from the year before, and it felt like 693 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: they put a little bit too much stock in the 694 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,439 Speaker 3: fact that that defense top to bottom played better toward 695 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: the end of the twenty twenty four season. And by 696 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: the way, it did in large part because they were 697 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 3: going up against bad quarterbacks or backup quarterbacks. But yes, 698 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: toward the end of the twenty twenty four season, the 699 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: Bengals defense did play better. Yet at the end of 700 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: that season, most of us thought they're going to go 701 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: and upgrade the defense. What did they not do upgrade 702 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 3: the defense? 703 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: Why? 704 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: Well, because toward the end of the season it showed 705 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: some good signs. So right now, and all I can 706 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: do is react to what's happened to this point, Maybe 707 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: things will change. I certainly hope they do change. But 708 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: right now, it's Carter, It's night, and it's us leaning 709 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: into the idea that those guys are going to be 710 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: better this coming season because they performed at least a 711 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 3: little bit better, showed some encouraging signs toward the end 712 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: of this past season. That is a strategy of hope, 713 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: which is exactly the strategy that I think most of 714 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 3: us agreed we didn't like when it came to the 715 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 3: defense as a whole last season. It's a perilous approach, 716 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: a dangerous approach. Now again, man, there's none of us 717 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: who should give up on either of those two players. 718 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: There's a long, long, illustrious list of players who struggled 719 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 3: as rookies across different positions, across different teams, hell, across 720 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: different sports, long list of players who as pros for 721 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: the first time struggled. Maybe it was the speed of 722 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 3: the game, maybe it wasn't quite grasping the system, whatever 723 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: it was, and then ultimately they ended up having good careers. 724 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully that happens with Carter and Knight. It would be 725 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 3: awesome for this team if it would happen with both. 726 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: Worst case, that's going to happen with one. But doesn't 727 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 3: it feel like a dangerous, shaky approach at that position 728 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: to just kind of double down on two players who 729 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 3: last season struggled as much as those two guys did. Again, 730 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: it's nobody's saying cut those guys. But I thought we 731 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: all agreed when the season ended. And when I say we, 732 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: we as fans agreed at the end of the season, 733 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: linebacker is not a position that they could ignore. By 734 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: the way, a week ago, at this time, I don't 735 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: recall anybody while a lot of us were going, hey man, 736 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: it's cool they signed Mafey and Cook, Now what's happening 737 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: at linebacker, I don't recall anybody raising their hand going, actually, 738 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 3: I think they're okay at linebacker, and yet to this point, 739 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: to this point, it feels like they are. And I 740 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 3: keep using the term perilous approach. That does feel like 741 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: a really perilous approach, and it may work, and if 742 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: it does, Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor will get the 743 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: credit they deserve. But for me, at least you could 744 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 3: tell me if you disagree. It feels like at one 745 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: position a similar strategy to what they did with the 746 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 3: entire defense between the twenty twenty four and the twenty 747 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: twenty five season. And we all know how the twenty 748 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: twenty five seats in play nowt uh we'll have a 749 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 3: poll question on this coming up here in just a 750 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 3: bit at Moegar thanks to United Heartland Insurance. Paul Danner 751 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: Junior has a very good piece, which by the way, 752 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: is free today, sort of him kind of outlining things 753 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 3: that he thinks may happen next based on what's happened 754 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: so far. We'll get to Paul. He's going to join us, 755 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: coming up at four h five. My name is Mowger 756 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: Glad you're with us today on a snowy, yes, snowy 757 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 3: Monday afternoon, four minutes away from four o'clock. This is 758 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. 759 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: Jackson Hewitt has a great tax