1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Man, there's nothing like live hockey experience Minnesota Wild action 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: of Grand Casino Arena all season long. 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm serious. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Stee now at Wild dot com slash tickets to join 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: the excitement Wild dot com slash tickets. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, live hockey Grand Casino Arena tomorrow night for the 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: Minnesota Wild and then several days with the high school squads. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Looking forward to. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: That joining me now he's going to be at the 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: ex watching high school hockey later this week. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: I can feel it. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: It's Alec Lewis of the Athletic at Alec Underscore Lewis 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: via X. 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm great, Nordo. 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually would be. I'm going home tomorrow to 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 4: be in the warmth for a little bit and quasi recover, 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 4: quasi work harder. But I really the high school hockey 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: would be fun right about. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Now, I'll tell you that, no doubt about it. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Now, just as I brought you on and we're introducing you, 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: I heard some sort of a notification in the background. 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Did the Vikings cut somebody else? 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: Alec? 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: Are we ready to break more? 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: Nothing? Nothing has broken since I've been there on the 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: phone in two minutes, but yeah, I expect this week 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: and next week to be very challenging from a work 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: life balance perspective, but that is part of what you 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 4: sign up for and doing this job. I did see 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: this morning the Lions traded David Montgomery to the Texans, 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: which was pretty interesting, but nothing on the Vikings front. 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: Right now, you're. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: Gonna be down in your hometown, sipping sweet tea and 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: breaking news as things unfold over the next week or so. 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: That's gonna be terrific. 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: Now you got to the combine, I want to We're 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna dig in a bit because of this morning, 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: and I love how this thing sets up your fresh 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: back from Indy. You had this the articles, what I 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: heard about Vikings, QB pursuit and JJ McCarthy at. 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: The NFL Combine. 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: I do want to dig into that more specifically momentarily, 43 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: but just at at ten thousand foot level, like you 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: spent some time there digging in. It's an exhausting week. 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,559 Speaker 3: How was the combine for you, Alec, Yeah. 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: It was how it always is. Some really late nights 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: that turn into really early mornings and it's a blast. 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: I mean, really, I the opportunity to be in person 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: with people you just don't take it for granted because 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: you don't get it a ton, especially in this league 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: where everything is kind of guarded and airtight. So it 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: was a blast. It was fun to see a lot 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: of colleagues. 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: It was cool to catch up with people, meet some 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: new people, spend time with people at all levels of 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 5: this organization and others and agents. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: So it was it was really, it was really good. 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: I will say this, I mean the Viking I think 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: I don't mind saying this. We had an athletic staff 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: meeting with our NFL staff on Monday, and our editor 61 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 4: in chief came up to me. He said, I think 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: the Vikings might be the most interesting team in the 63 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: NFL right now, which A for me was cool to 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: hear that, but B it's like, all right, So that 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: means the editor and sheeef is paying attention to what 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: I'm doing, which adds a layer of pressure that you're 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: really you know, it's not the most preferable, but it 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: adds to the intrigue over the next two weeks. 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: A lot of reporting's been done on it at the 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: national level, but you mentioned the Vikings may be one 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: of the more interesting teams. That's clearly solely dedicated to 72 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: whatever the hell they're going to do with the quarterback spot, right, 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: and there's just a broad spectrum. 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I think it's the combination of you got 75 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: this polarizing young quarterback who you drafted in the top 76 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: ten for the first time of your franchise history and 77 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: who had the season he did. You have the names 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: that we've all seen and heard floating in the ether 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: that are possibilities to come in. You have the GM 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: who has just fired. You have Justin Jefferson being one 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: of the face of the league. You have a head 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: coach and one coach of the Year but hasn't won 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: a playoff game. So it's just a lot of Yeah, 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: it's a lot of interesting dynamics. And and I will say, 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: I mean, like any conversation with agents or team people, 86 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 4: it's what are you hearing? What I gonna Yeah, the quarterback? 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: Who's who's it gonna be? They're really gonna do that? 88 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: Are they really? Like? I mean, that's that's what it 89 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: was for five days. 90 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, So kind of kind of set this up 91 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: is whether it was Pete najerryon my previous guest or 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: just kind of how my mind has been has been 93 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: following this and just trying to reconcile all of the 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: various names and the ether as you mentioned. You know, 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: for me, the the situation with with the quarterback spot 96 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: and this new regime and all of those things. 97 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: I'm still not ready to quit JJ. 98 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: The way that we've talked about this from minute one, 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: alec it Fields, I just don't just mean you and I, 100 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: but I'm just collect actively social media, national reporting and 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: all of these things. Is that you know, JJ had 102 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: his opportunity. That opportunity looks different and is different. I 103 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: don't disagree with that, but now we are talking about 104 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: XYZ free agent that's just going to come in and 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: replace the guy. In some respects, I've just seen too 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: much about that. Where As we look at part one 107 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: of your piece via the Athletic, is there is there 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: anything you're able to do to kind of smooth out 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: that path or smooth out or add clarity to that 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: conversation in terms of JJ McCarthy's role in twenty twenty six. 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I've tried to write this in a 112 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: way it makes sense and talk about it in a 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: way that makes sense, and I'll do it here. I mean, 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: you're really this organization right now is really really balancing 115 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: two different worlds. You're in the long term quarterback development 116 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: world with a young player who has a lot to 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: develop up on the field, off the field, and obviously 118 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: from a health perspective, and you're in a short term 119 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: world of you haven't won a playoff game since twenty nineteen, 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 4: you have a superstar receiver who wants to win and produce. 121 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: You have a veteran Leyden roster that really kind of 122 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: is built for the now, and so managing those two 123 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: worlds at the same time, I mean, it's not the 124 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: most optimal scenario. And I think I would also add 125 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: this Vikings ownership group has never been willing to not 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: compete in the present and so until they become willing 127 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 4: to essentially like allow the bottom to fall out or 128 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: to allow it to reach the ultimate mountaintop. From a 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna shoot for the moon perspective, it's 130 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: it's you really almost have to find the level of 131 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 4: quarterback insurance that they're in the market for. So that's 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: really the dynamic at play. I mean, it's very clear, 133 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 4: and it was very clear throughout the twenty five season 134 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: that JJ McCarthy does have high end traits, it was 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: also very clear that it might take a longer runway 136 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: to bring those out on a consistent basis. And again, 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: while JJ might need that runway, teams aren't always willing 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: to take that entire amount of runway. So it's part 139 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: of the complex situation that makes it so interesting. And 140 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: I would say as an analyst, as someone on the outside, 141 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: I totally understand any fans perspective who's like, why would 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: you hand it over to someone in the short term 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: that maybe it would be really difficult to reach the 144 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: super roll with instead of just allowing JJ to either 145 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: sink or swim. And I understand that, but again, this 146 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: organization has never been willing to ultimately sink, and so 147 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 4: the decision making will align with ownership's preference in that way, You're. 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: One hundred percent correct. And and the you know, kind 149 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: of trying to thread that needle. We talked about it 150 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: the wh when this first quote unquote regime came to Minneapolis. 151 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: Threading the needle of becoming younger, becoming more financially flexible 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: while competing and contending, and you have a couple of 153 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: good seasons in the mix. 154 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: You don't have any playoff wins. 155 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: But now we're looking at a spot where instead of 156 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: being younger and more financially flexible, we're actually older and 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 3: we have no money. 158 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: So, uh, sadly that did not work out very well. 159 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: Now with that, with that said, uh, the pressure is 160 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: there pressure or is there a variable here of head 161 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: coach year five that plays into that runway for JJ McCarthy, Yeah, I. 162 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: Mean, I absolutely do think. I don't know if I 163 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 4: call it stretcher, but it's it was. It became clear 164 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: over the course of the twenty twenty five season, and 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: it also was evident last week in Indianapolis that it 166 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: was a stressful time period definitely for Kevin O'Connell, but 167 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: also for a lot of people internally because of their 168 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 4: inability to be as consistent as they wanted to be. 169 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: So I would say that definitely guides the decision making. 170 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: I would you know, I've had people ask me in 171 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: the last couple of days, you know, does Kevin O'Connell 172 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: have more power? Now? I wouldn't say pushed back, but 173 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: I've made it very clear like he's had a lot 174 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: of power now for multiple years, and he was the 175 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: strongest voice from the from a personnel perspective on the 176 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: quarterback last offseason. So that's not crazy different. What is different, 177 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 4: obviously is going another year without a playoff win and 178 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: going another year where you did have the downsides that 179 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 4: they had. 180 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so until anything breaks, it still kind of 181 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: feels like we're playing the names. And I loved your 182 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: I loved your breakdown on several potential options here again 183 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: your piece. You probably already subscribed to the Athletic Ladies 184 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: and gentlemen, but but follow Alec Underscore Lewis via X. 185 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: You got his podcast going on, but terrific piece and 186 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: it's only part one. 187 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: You're kind of leaving us. Hang, when's part two coming out? 188 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: Alec tomorrow. 189 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: I was working on it right as you call. I mean, 190 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: we got some Rob Razinski stuff in there, we got 191 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: some Jalen Naylor, Eric Wilson. Uh, We're gonna have some 192 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: some center conversation, some draft targets, run game. I mean, 193 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: it's it's you know, there's a lot to get at there. 194 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: There really is, am I. 195 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: And over the last over the last couple of weeks, 196 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: have gone from somewhat clueless to somewhat engaged and informed 197 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 3: on this as the running back spot. You you you're 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: aware of the news that sans a trade, that Javon 199 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: Hargrave will be released, And of course Aaron Jones, Aaron Jones, 200 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: the human Aaron Jones, the culture element in that locker room. 201 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna miss that guy. But there's also a cap 202 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: associated with it. And and a guy sadly missed five 203 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: games last year, kind of a story of his career. 204 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: And we love Aaron Jones, but he's turning thirty two, 205 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: I think at some point in twenty twenty six. So 206 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: with that said, I went from daft to someonet informed. 207 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: Now it's kind of on my radar the idea of 208 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: looking at a running back in the draft. You mentioned 209 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: that run game is year five, the year that the 210 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: run game explodes for the Minnesota Vikings. 211 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 4: Well, I definitely think Frank Smith, who was brought in 212 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: to be the assistant head coach from the Miami Dolphins, 213 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: where he was the offensive coordinator. I definitely think he 214 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: will have some ideas and some additional input that will 215 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: add a layer of creativity. I also believe that Keith 216 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: Carter's role as the offensive line coach will probably add 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of snarl to that group and to 218 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: that room on a daily basis that they hope draws 219 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: out kind of probably more of what Ton O'Connor would 220 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: call the play style element. So yeah, those are critical, 221 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: but you're right to mention. I mean Aaron Jones conversation. 222 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think his cap number is around 223 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: fourteen million. The production has not come anywhere close to 224 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: matching that cab number. So at the bare minimum, the 225 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: Vikings would be seek what would have been seeking a 226 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: pretty major pay cut depending on his market. I mean, 227 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens in terms of how aggressive would 228 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: other teams be. I know he loves it here, I 229 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: know they respect him. And then I also know that 230 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: the Vikings aren't gonna want to spend crazily on the 231 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: position because they don't have a ton of room. So 232 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 4: who might be be available? It is a I mean 233 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: you know this, but finding a running back with a 234 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: three down skill set is going to be massive. And 235 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: if you're doing that via the draft and you're not 236 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: doing that via the first round, I mean you're really 237 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: taking a long shot bet which to do that for 238 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: a run game you want to improve, that would be 239 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 4: a pretty bold kind of scenario in my opinion. 240 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the you know, kind of the tough 241 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 3: path forward. I've been bouncing it around, just kind of 242 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: the idea. Okay, Sokwisi moves on, and the rest, you know, 243 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: personnel people and scouts and Brazinski, the rest of these 244 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: guys are here. So maybe there's a philosophical change in 245 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: terms of draft boards and all of that, but just 246 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: nuts and bolts of this thing. 247 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: If they go with a defensive tackle. 248 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: I was talking earlier last hour about Caleb Banks, the 249 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 3: cat out of Florida. Okay, that makes sense. If they 250 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: go with a safety, PA really really hot of he's 251 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: hot on this. Dylan theeneman I think out of Oregon, 252 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: who just showed out at the freaking Combine. 253 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: It might not be there at eighteen, we'll see, but you. 254 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: Start playing that game, you know, relying on a rookie 255 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: running back to compliment a guy in Jordan Mason who's 256 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: had trouble catching the ball over his course of his career. 257 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: The combination of shedding money and then potentially relying on 258 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: super young talent, We're we're threading another needle here, Alex. 259 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: Six It's ridiculous. 260 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 4: No, it's It's funny you said that because that has 261 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: become the like that. I don't know if that was 262 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: even a company, not the line of threading the needle, 263 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: but it's kind of become the tagline of this offseason, 264 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: I think. But yeah, I mean it's it's the other 265 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: aspect you didn't mention, and it's not the sexiest radio, 266 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: but running back pass protection is huge with how some 267 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: of these defenses are calling games, and so you know, 268 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: Jordan Mason has not been reliable in that phase. TJ. 269 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: Hans retired, who was a huge third down pass protecting 270 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: back in the backfield, yep, And with any quarterback that's 271 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: playing for the Vikings, you're gonna need that person to 272 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: be reliable. So I mean it's like this, who can 273 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: you find at running back If it's not Aaron Jones 274 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: who you would trust to have burst out of the backfield, 275 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: who could catch passes, who you believe could pass protect 276 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: straight out the gate. I mean, there's just not a 277 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: ton of those options available, and the really good ones 278 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: who are have been healthy in years past and have 279 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: been reliable, they're gonna cost money that the Vikings don't 280 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: really have money to spend. So it's I mean, you're 281 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: looking at quarterback and running back arguably two, I mean, 282 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: two of the most important businesses on your team. The 283 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: question marks exist. So is it a Kenneth Gainwell type 284 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: who could thread that needle? I mean, I'm sure that name, 285 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: just like all the quarterback names, brings rash reactions on 286 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: both sides. But that's the dynamic of where this team is. 287 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: Keth Kenneth Gainwell, that's where we're at. Hey, we're again 288 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: threading needles? Is the is the story of this thing? 289 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: Hey? 290 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: When when you were in, when you were down. 291 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: There Alex Lewis the athletic with me nine to noon 292 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Nordowen for PA vocal maintenance season. It's a Monday morning 293 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: in their sunshine outside, so we should all be happy. 294 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: When you were in. 295 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: When you were in Indie last week, Uh, were there 296 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: any prospects? And you know, I don't You probably didn't 297 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: spend much time inside Lucas Oil watching. 298 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Any of this. 299 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: Maybe you did, but but uh, was there anybody who 300 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: was just like super steaming, just like I can't wait 301 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: to watch that guy at the combine at any level, 302 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: whether it was Vikings related or not. Just was there 303 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: anybody that somebody would just like, Wow, I can't wait 304 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: to see this guy show out on the field. 305 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: That's a great question. Yeah, in terms of me watching 306 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: forty yard dashes, I don't. I wouldn't know how to 307 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: get into Lucasol Stadium. 308 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: Would you bring my stop? 309 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to hear. But it's it's it's uh, 310 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: it's part of it. I mean I would say for 311 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: me personally, like Jeremiah Love is my damn and the 312 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: guy you know running back from Notre Dame just explosive. Heck, 313 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: but I I can't imagine he even gets to like 314 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: number eight. So that would be a guy di'angelo Pons, 315 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: the tiny corner from Indiana who might be my favorite 316 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: player to watch on tape in the draft, had a 317 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: really good good week there, which which was cool to see. 318 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you mentioned Caleb Banks from Florida is definitely 319 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: I mean, the guy's like six six, three thirty and 320 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 4: just I mean he looks made in a lab production 321 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: and the availability haven't been there. But I would say, 322 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: just on the draft in general, when you talk to 323 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: me in the league, the feeling is this isn't the 324 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: most exceptional draft. There definitely is some talent at the top, 325 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: and then it's kind of you know, you can find 326 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: starters in the mid tier and that that's really I 327 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 4: mean with where I think this Vikings team is that 328 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: that's got to be the focus here. She's like, how 329 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 4: many starters and young players can we pluck to add 330 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: surplus elsewhere that that's gonna be the critical component. And 331 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: I also will say this because you're talking about sunshine outside, like, 332 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: I think there definitely is a path with any of 333 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: these quarterbacks that we talked about acquiring them in this system, 334 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 4: I think there would be a path to ten to 335 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: eleven wins. It's just the upside right now with that 336 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: position limits where this team can go. I know I'm 337 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: shifting the conversation a little bit, but I just want to. 338 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: Say that, no, no, that's that's all good, and it's 339 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: pressing to this now. And I know you got to 340 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: go to eleven thirty, So just one or two more 341 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: for you here, specifically with the Vikings and the center spot. 342 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 3: So you know, one thing that it's we haven't talked 343 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: a ton about. 344 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: You know, you're you're anticipating. 345 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: There aren't like thirty or forty different O line combinations 346 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: can we please just be healthy, but specific at the 347 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: center spot. You got Ryan Kelly and I I just 348 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: have to imagine that that's potentially one of those cuts, 349 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: one of those cap casualties and great career that he's had, 350 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: but the head injuries and sadly just a lack of 351 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: reliability proofs proofs into this. And then you have Jurgens 352 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: and you have Blake Brandell, who's kind of that swing 353 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: tackle guard centering do it all you had to last year? 354 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: Like what do you think about addressing that spot? Is 355 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 3: that a free agency conversation plus a draft pick? Like 356 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: any thought given to that center spot? 357 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: Yet? Yeah, I would say there are a couple free 358 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: agents who are intriguing to this team. But the month again, 359 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: I mean, and this is a theme of the conversation, 360 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: like the money is gonna matter, and the market for 361 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 4: these guys may limit how far the Vikings would be 362 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: willing to go. I would say there is faith in 363 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 4: Blake Brandell and that more time with that position he 364 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: could be serviceable, and if the offensive line around him 365 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: is healthy, then they're they're you know, then they could 366 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 4: really produce. And then this draft, I would say, has 367 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: a lot of sinners that the Vikings. Like, so, I 368 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: wouldn't be shocked if there is a move forward scenario 369 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 4: with Blake Brandell and Michael Jurgens and then if this 370 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: team can snag one at so point in the draft 371 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 4: that might be the the most likely scenario at this moment. 372 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's a tough thing. And this is all 373 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: with all respect to to Brandle. 374 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: It feels like the trust in Brandle is because that's 375 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: a guy that they have. Is is there any element 376 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: of necessity associated with with moving forward because he's he's 377 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: done good work in moments when he's been asked to 378 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: play in a spot, But there's a reason that he's 379 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: still a reserve, you know what I mean. 380 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: And I'm looking at Logan Jones. 381 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: He's I don't think he's He's definitely not a Day 382 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: one pick, but the Iowa cat for a center, I mean, man, 383 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: you're Connor McGovern ethan Postitch. I mean, some of these 384 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: guys are going to be getting way too much catch 385 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: that that the Vikings won't even be in on. 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: But but it is. It is a difficult spot. 387 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: It's just Brandal does feel like a in lieu of 388 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: of found money somewhere. 389 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: We do have Brandle, you know what I mean. 390 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: No doubt. I mean, but I and I think that's 391 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: part of it is he's really smart. He works his 392 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: butt off. So from a from a coaching staff standpoint, 393 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 4: there is an amount of trust there that I you 394 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 4: know there where it's like a fallback that you you 395 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 4: were saying, it's like, that's bad analogy, so bear with me. 396 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 4: Like that restaurant you know you can always go to 397 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: and it's gonna satisfy you in some way. I mean, 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 4: that's just kind of what it is with Blake Brandell. 399 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: I don't know why. Maybe I'm hungry I'm bringing that 400 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: up as the analogy. But yeah, and I mean you 401 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: mentioned logan jokes. But like there are again in the drafts, 402 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 4: there are a lot of centers. You're talking Sam Heck 403 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: Kansas State, You're talking Jake Slaughter, Florida, Connor lou Auburn. 404 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 4: Like the fact I can rattle off a lot of 405 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 4: these guys tells you, you know that that if the 406 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: Vikings want to go that route, and maybe you have 407 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: Blake Brandell starting the season, maybe one of those guys 408 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: developed quickly and you plug and play and they understand 409 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 4: the system. That could be a route. I also think 410 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: you're more inclined to go with the younger center or 411 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: a less experienced center if you have a more better 412 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 4: in style quarterback. 413 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a terrific point. Hey, thanks for jumping on 414 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: with me on a Monday, man. I know you gotta fly, 415 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: but have fun down in Alabama. 416 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: It was good chat with you. We'll catch up again soon, 417 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: all right. 418 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it'll be busy you guys enjoy this week. Looking 419 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: forward to seeing what happens. But yeah, thanks for having me. 420 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: Appreciate it and I will probably be texting you later 421 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 4: this evening. 422 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely cheers. 423 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 4: Man. 424 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: That's Alec Lewis of the Athletic and again jump to 425 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: jump to the Athletic. He put out a piece and 426 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 3: you know what in terms of just what he heard 427 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: at the combine and quarterbacks specifically related, he dropped part 428 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: one today. Part two is going to be available tomorrow. 429 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: But long time and one of our favorites, Alec Lewis 430 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: of the Athletics spend some time in Indy. Always good 431 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: to spend some time with him. 432 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: Nine to noon. 433 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: Now we're gonna pause catch up on the clock. It's 434 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: nor to win for Pa Brett Blake more producing. It's 435 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: the fan, the fan. 436 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: Walk some great show. It's to allege Amphitheater this year. 437 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: John mulaney will be there August twenty second, Blue Traveler 438 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: and Jim Blossoms will be there September twelfth. Get complete 439 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: details and all of our upcoming shows on the concert 440 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: page KFA dot com, Cubret calendar. 441 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: Many text messages throughout the show today. 442 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Thank you. It's nordowin for PA Vocal Maintenance season. 443 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: PA returns tomorrow, and you know, I might as well 444 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: do a little rundown on that right now, because we're 445 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: going to start the show with head coach Chris Finch 446 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 3: of the Minnesota Timberwolves, victorious in the Mile High City 447 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: yesterday over the Nuggets, firmly in a top four spot 448 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: right now. Well firmly's tough because it is muddy and 449 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 3: it's weird, and they can drop too straight and find 450 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: their way back in fifth or sixth again. 451 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: We know that. 452 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: But they're also in lockstep right now and have a 453 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: great opportunity. 454 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: Let's continue. 455 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 3: Let's make a new form of let's in Instead of 456 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: being inconsistent consistently, let's just be consistent and find our 457 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: way into the third spot before the postseason. 458 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: But Pa is going to be back. 459 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: We're gonna chat with the head coach, and then Kevin 460 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: goreg not just on the Minnesota Wild but high school 461 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: hockey tournament. 462 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: He's going to join around nine to thirty. 463 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: Ben Gesling Star Tribune, He's going to be in studio 464 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: at ten, and then Tony Scott Youth Hockey Hub and more. 465 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 3: He's going to be in studio chatting about the boys 466 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: high school state tournament that's going to lift off on Wednesday. 467 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: So a full show post vocal maintenance tomorrow. The text 468 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: messages in sixty four six eighty six Bratch on Bryant 469 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: KFN text line. Anybody is able to text, but I 470 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 3: noticed that the there was a particular topic. Now there's 471 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: a gentleman by the name of Paul that has effectively 472 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: spammed the entire text line. We can just run through 473 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: them here and you're all free to do it. This 474 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: is a block free environment at least nine to noon. 475 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: I can tell you good, bad, and ugly ain't gonna block. 476 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: Let's see from Paul for yourself from Paul here. If 477 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: your offensive line sucks, it doesn't matter who. 478 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: Your QB is. Okay, that was at eleven fourteen. 479 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: Thirty seconds later, he does not believe that his point 480 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: had been made, so he texted again, if your offensive 481 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: line sucks, it doesn't matter if your wide receiver. 482 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: Is a superstar. Okay, perfect, all right, moving on Paul again. 483 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: Oh seven minutes later, if your offensive line sucks, you 484 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 3: cannot run the ball no matter who your running back is. 485 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: All right, check that, bucks. 486 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: Let me see your Paul again, just to make a 487 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: final point. So I thought, fix the offensive line, and 488 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: the quarterback and running back will fix themselves. 489 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 490 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: Well, then thirty seconds later, why is Alex lewis not 491 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: talking about the offensive line? Did he not watch how 492 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: last season's games played out? And then another serviceable is 493 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: not good enough? So I got the point, Paul, and 494 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. So we've spent in fair news. To 495 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: Paul's point, we do spend a lot of time. And 496 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 3: that's how I framed it up. Last week we had 497 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: charts on talking about the draft, talking about the Combine 498 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: pick eighteen by nature of being the first one, by 499 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: nature of being in said first round, with the highest 500 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: likelihood of getting a super talented player that can help 501 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: the team quickly. That has been the focus of nine 502 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: to Noon. A couple shows last week at the Combine 503 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: in Indianapolis, PA and Pete speaking with the Luminaries little 504 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: steamrolling focused on pick eighteen. 505 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: Well, what is pick eighteen entail? 506 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: Well, it may have entailed tight end Kenyon Sadik until 507 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: he freaking went total alien on it and looked like 508 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: the greatest tight end in the history of combines ever 509 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: to combine Kenyon Sadik. 510 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: Wow, and maybe he's not available anymore. 511 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 3: At pick eighteen we shall see but specifically defensive tackle, 512 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: specifically safety, and we do this, well, we need the 513 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: best player available. But then we immediately look at the 514 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 3: depth chart and say, well, for getting rid of a 515 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: gentleman by the name of Javon Hargrave, we're gonna need 516 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: a fat guy in the middle, and maybe that's Caleb 517 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: Banks out of Florida. 518 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: Wouldn't mind having him here. 519 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: Looks pre damn good in fact, or at the safety 520 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: spot hit Man retired. 521 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, we need the best player available, but. 522 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: Hitman's retiring and he had a shoulder thing with Mattellis 523 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: a year ago, and THEO Jackson was playing a lot 524 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 3: might need safety, so that Theeneman Cat. I hope I'm 525 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: pronouncing his name correctly, the. 526 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Safety out of Oregon. Speaking of showing out, by the way, 527 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: I'd seen bits with Theeneman going somewhere in the second round. 528 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: Will he be available at eighteen? 529 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: Ik a lot about Oregon Ducks, by the way, too 530 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: much Oregon and our favorite cat, favorite cat, Cod Parrish 531 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: now plays for Oregon. Maybe he's the next best Dylan 532 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: Theedaman and a guy we're talking about a year or 533 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: two from now going to the Purple who knows, hopefully 534 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: not a pick eighteen, hopefully much later in the draft. 535 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: But to that end, all that focus on defensive tackle, 536 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: all that focus on safety, I must concede listener Paul 537 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: and a few others. I only read Paul's because he 538 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: texted about eight times and what felt like twenty minutes. 539 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: But we have not chatted about the center spot, maybe 540 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 3: as urgently as we possibly could, and it is an issue. 541 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: Two years ago, forty eight sacks for Sam Darnold during 542 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: the regular season in total fifty seven including the playoff game. 543 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: A year later, Vikings quarterbacks combined felt like there was 544 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: ten of them that played. There wasn't sixty sacks endured 545 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: courtesy of the Minnesota Moving Company, And as we talked 546 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 3: about during the middle hour with Pete Nigerian, you can 547 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: kind of you can play the game of sack by 548 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: sack by sack by sack by sack till you get sixty. 549 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: Which one did the quarterback hold out of the ball 550 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: too long? There was there was a point in time, 551 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: by the way, there were plenty in terms of the 552 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: sacks that JJ McCarthy endured, where as soon as he 553 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: hit his drop, the top of his drop, somebody was 554 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: on him. That happened many times, specifically early on in 555 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: the season when Justin School was playing in substitution of 556 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: Christian Darisaw. 557 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: You just had no time. 558 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: We kind of talked to you and kind of talked 559 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: our way out of that being a potential issue. It's 560 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: Justin School's fault. We'll get Darisaw back. Everything's going to 561 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: be fine. And then McCarthy hurts his ankle. We don't 562 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: see him for six weeks. But there is an element 563 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: where one can help the other. And McCarthy should not 564 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: be absolved of anything in relation to holding the ball 565 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: too long, lack of decision making, walking his way into 566 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: sacks all of those things, but sixty is a glaring 567 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: number a year after fifty seven on Sam Darnold and 568 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: this center spot with the number of combinations that took place, 569 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: whether it's injury proficiency, all of those things that this 570 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: team endured in a nine win season last year. You 571 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: can't move forward in April, can't move forward into free 572 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: agency without talking about the center position. 573 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: And it's similar to the quarterback. 574 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's different than the quarterback spot because there are talent, 575 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: There are talented individuals that will be available in the 576 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: middle of March. But it's similar to the quarterback spot 577 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: in terms of the money that you want to spend, 578 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: the output, and how you're going to find your way 579 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: to the right answer there. 580 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: And there's a Lloyd cushion Berry out of Tennessee. 581 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: Now I know there's somebody via the text line that's 582 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: going to tell us that they've watched all. 583 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 2: Of Tennessee's games. 584 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: I will concede, I'm not really sure how good Lloyd 585 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: cushion Berry is, but he's twenty eight. He got about 586 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: twelve million this last year. He's going to be somewhere 587 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: between seven to ten per Connor McGovern I mentioned him 588 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: with Alec class segment. Buffalo Center feels like they would 589 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: try to make a move to keep him if they could. 590 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: Ethan postage up and down career, but he found some 591 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: stability with Cleveland. 592 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: He's with the Browns. 593 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: With the Browns, then there's a high ender, Tyler Linderbaum 594 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: for the Baltimore Ravens. I think he is ending his 595 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: rookie contract. I believe the Ravens would be apt to 596 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 3: want to keep them. Oh, Austin Schlogman's available. Remember him 597 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: played for the Minnesota Vikings. Probably not an option, but 598 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: I mentioned, I mentioned Logan Jones. This Minnesota moving company 599 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: can be better in twenty twenty six simply by just 600 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: staying on the freaking field and bringing Christian Darisov back 601 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: from injury. Working his way in slowly. Will he play? 602 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: Will he not play? Is there additional injury to the knee? 603 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: Think about how that game played out over the course 604 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty five. How exhausting it was Will Fries 605 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: who had to work his way. I think his competency level, 606 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: at his production level did slowly, sadly, slowly get better 607 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: over the course of twenty twenty five. He was the 608 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: only consistency that you had the entire season. Even Donovan 609 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: Jackson appreciated. I thought he was a little bit better 610 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: early than he was later in the season. He needs 611 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: to be much better into his sophomore campaign. Brian O'Neil, 612 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: little nicks, little injuries here there, little stuff, he battles 613 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: through it. He's an iron man at this stage of 614 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: his career. What are we getting out of him? Simply 615 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: by nature of just staying healthy? This will be a 616 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: better operation in twenty twenty six. I just don't know 617 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: how you move forward with Ryan Kelly. I don't know 618 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: how that is even a possibility in twenty twenty six. 619 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 3: And so I could be proven wrong. I'm happy to 620 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: face that when it occurs. I just don't see him 621 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: in them. And so it is Michael Jurgens, who is 622 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 3: definitely not like Cam Jurgens. 623 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: In Philly. 624 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: There is Blake Brandle, who can play every spot on 625 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: the O line it appears, but hasn't busted through into 626 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: a prominent starting role. There's a reason behind that. And 627 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: then there's the draft. And I mentioned that Logan Jones 628 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: cat out of Iowa. I really like him and he 629 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 3: would be somebody that I would focus on in the draft. 630 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm not in the rooms. Brazinski doesn't ask me. Just 631 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: somebody I'm looking at. And then there's one of those 632 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 3: free agents. That is, to Paul's point and anyone else 633 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: listening nine to noon, what we do at the center 634 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: spot means a freaking ton in twenty twenty six and 635 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: should not be forgotten as we talk about the upcoming 636 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: draft and what's ahead for our favorite football team. 637 00:33:47,120 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: Final segment is next, and. 638 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: Quick little Covenant clean up. And you smile at me, Blake, Uh, 639 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: I was about you called. I was about to call you. 640 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: We've talked about the O line. I was about to 641 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 3: call you, Blake Brandle Uh, Brett, Blake Moore. You you're 642 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: smiling at me as I say, there's a Covening cleanup 643 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: because you want to play it and so I'm just 644 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you just might as well just do it. 645 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: It's a Covening clean up. We say stupid things all 646 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: of the time. It's a Covening clean up, according to you, 647 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: and up again, a. 648 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: Covening clean up sponsored by nobody. 649 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: I have that on almost every page on the PA 650 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: shift just in case, just in case that it may 651 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: come up. 652 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was talking with somebody uh in sales 653 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: last week. We could spend an entire segment every single 654 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: day going through the mistakes that we make on. 655 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: A day le basis. 656 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: But I saw a couple of text messages about this 657 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: early on in the show. I did the weekend wrap, 658 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: the weekend wrap on Monday mornings, spend the segment just 659 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: what happened over the weekend, Here's what happened, and just 660 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 3: quick little pontifications we move on. An egregious error was yeah, 661 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 3: was committed because I did not talk about the nineteenth 662 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 3: ranked Go for women's hoops team. You know, Nico Medved squad. 663 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 3: They're scrambling just to get to five hundred. Motsko's team. 664 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: I mentioned them they need to win the Big Ten 665 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 3: tournament to sniff the national at tourney. Meanwhile, Go For 666 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 3: Women they just hooked and they beat Illinois. I believe 667 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: that was in Champagne and it was close, but seventy eight, 668 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: seventy three, and they are a ranked national force that 669 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: will be in the NCAA Women's Tourney. And I believe 670 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: the Big Ten tournament starts later this week. I think, 671 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 3: let me see here, I believe it's Friday. Yes, there 672 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: we go it's in Indy starting on Friday. I did 673 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: not mention them as part of the weekend wrap and 674 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: so that is indeed, as I said to the sales guys, 675 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 3: like we could do a segment every single day just 676 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: devoted to Covenant cleanups, the things we do and say incorrectly. 677 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: It's an option. It's an option that's out there. 678 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: So cheers to the go for ladies that are absolutely 679 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 3: shown out representing college hoops at a high level. 680 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: So congratulations to them. 681 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 3: That does wrap up the nine to noon show today, 682 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 3: Nordowen for PA. Thanks to Brett, thank you so much, 683 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: whether it was Pete Najerian, Alec Lewis and Pat mcalletty 684 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 3: during the opening hour for joining me tomorrow again it's 685 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 3: going to be coach Chris Finch Minnesota Timberwolves leading off 686 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 3: the show. Kevin Gorg in the first hour, Ben Gestlin 687 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: in studio at ten Tony Scott on the high school 688 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 3: hockey tourney at eleven. Full show, full strength, that's Minyana. 689 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to the fan when you do. 690 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: The program is next, have an awesome afternoon. 691 00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: Podcast. 692 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 4: Today is Paul Allen Show or listen back to previous 693 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: show and interviews. So I go into the iHeartRadio app 694 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 4: or kfan dot com