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Speaker 1: one Carpet plus Next Day Install Studios. My name is

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Speaker 1: John Justice, in here for the next few days. You're

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow, right, Brett, Just tomorrow? Okay, well a few

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Speaker 1: days today and tomorrow, and I guess we're I guess

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Speaker 1: we do have an hour left today, so we're past

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Speaker 2: It's good to see you as always, though, sir, all right,

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Speaker 2: star Wars.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not talking star Wars right now. I know

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Speaker 1: we talked about that first hour of the show.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that friend of the show to get

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Speaker 2: all mad at me again. Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Ninety seconds feels like twenty minutes to him. Speaking of seconds,

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Speaker 1: millions to billions. I had a lot of individuals that

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Speaker 1: were hat tipping you on the talk back of your

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Speaker 1: breaking down of billions.

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Speaker 2: They appreciated that, as did I.

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Speaker 1: We use that over at the fan to rip the

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Speaker 1: Twins owners, the poll ads who won't spend any money

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Speaker 1: despite them being worth billions at times. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, we're used to that type of thought. To

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Speaker 1: the friend of the show, you just spent fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: talking about the twins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's over, Yeah, all right, all right.

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Speaker 1: We are going to get into Keith Ellison. We have

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Speaker 1: a few things to say about ilhan Omar. I want

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Speaker 1: to get back to this Bill go Lon story here

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Speaker 1: in just a moment. But we're talking about fraud, and

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Speaker 1: there was a story from Friday ad and get a

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Speaker 1: chance to cover. I want to do that briefly here. First,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to the iHeartRadio app talkbacks.

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Speaker 3: Hey, John, can you please have Liz Collin back on

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Speaker 3: to talk about how during the last legislative session, Walls

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Speaker 3: and the Democrats shut down the independent investigator thing that

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Speaker 3: was going on, and now he's going to appoint one

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Speaker 3: from his administration.

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Speaker 2: I don't trust this at all. Well you don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to have Liz back on because I

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Speaker 1: can tell you technically you who just did no what

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Speaker 1: you said was accurate. As as we have highlighted here

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Speaker 1: on the show, many times, the Republicans actually had an

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Speaker 1: inspector general position lined up to be voted on and

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Speaker 1: put into power during the legislative session. That inspector General

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Speaker 1: was different than what we've seen in the past because

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Speaker 1: it actually had some teeth attached to it, meaning they

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Speaker 1: actually had powers to go and investigate beyond partisan politics,

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats shut it down. They said, nope, once

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Speaker 1: the fraud story began to get to the point where

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Speaker 1: it can no longer be ignored, to where we are

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Speaker 1: now with that reporting from Luber Goose and Cara Levin

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Speaker 1: straight up calling out how Governor Tim Walls and Saint

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Speaker 1: Paul Mayor Melvin Carter lied on a couple of different

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Speaker 1: issues relating to fraud. Then Governor Tim Walls went and said, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm an issue executive order and I'm going to put

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Speaker 1: in place our own inspector General. Except that inspector general

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the teeth like the ones or the one

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Speaker 1: would have been the legislature was going to put in power.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats voted against the new Inspector General only answers

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Speaker 1: to Governor Tim Walls. In the meantime, Minnesota's Disability Services

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Speaker 1: in limbo as dhs pauses the new licenses amid a

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Speaker 1: backlog and concerns of fraud. So I'm working off a

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Speaker 1: couple of different versions here this that I have in

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Speaker 1: my hands is from Channel five.

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Speaker 2: The individuals at the end of.

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Speaker 1: This that were depending on and counting on those services

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Speaker 1: to be there for them and their family members, that

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Speaker 1: they are just essentially disappearing, said Josh Berg of the

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Speaker 1: Director of Minnesota Services and Strategic Growth had Accessible Space Incorporated.

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Speaker 1: Berg is a vocal advocate, first interviewed by five Eyewitness

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Speaker 1: News in June when DHS faced a backlog of licensed applications.

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Speaker 1: At the time, his client had waited over a year

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Speaker 1: for DHS to approve the round o' clock care provided

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Speaker 1: by ASI in an apartment community. However, the disability service

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Speaker 1: providers in Minnesota urging transparency and accountability in collaboration with

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Speaker 1: the Department of Human Services, as the agency plans to

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Speaker 1: pause new licenses for home and community based providers. Why

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Speaker 1: is this relevant because a year ago on December fourth,

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Speaker 1: when Governor Tim Walls announced that the eighteen billion dollar

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Speaker 1: for the state of Minnesota in years to come, he

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Speaker 1: blamed it in large part because of these disability waivers

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Speaker 1: which they've now halted, which could be an indication of

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Speaker 1: where that eighteen billion dollars plus wins via fraud. Fox

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Speaker 1: nine covered this late last week. Here's their reporting.

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Speaker 4: So Despartment of Human Services announcing major changes to licensing

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Speaker 2: Concerned about fraud.

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Speaker 5: The agency is issuing a two year ban on new

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Speaker 5: provider licenses, pointing to a need for increased program oversight.

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Speaker 5: Are So Young Kim takes a look at some reasons

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Speaker 5: behind the order.

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Speaker 6: The Minnesota Department of Human Services says it's pausing disability

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Speaker 6: services licensing and says a temporary moratorium for home and

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Speaker 6: community based services is necessary to monitor program integrity.

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Speaker 2: Here's why.

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Speaker 6: According to the Department, over the past five years, the

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Speaker 6: average number of participants, so those who need the service,

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Speaker 6: increased by roughly twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: Let me stop here, just really quick.

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Speaker 1: There's no way that Governor Tim Walls DHS under him

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Speaker 1: would have halted the payments to these services if they

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Speaker 1: weren't convince so that there was fraud involved. And where

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Speaker 1: is all of the Governor Tim Wall's commentary regarding the

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Speaker 1: individuals who are now going to be denied these services

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Speaker 1: because of the fraud taking place. Governor Tim Wall's sure

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Speaker 1: is quick to go and point out any cuts taking

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Speaker 1: place at the federal level meant to bring about tackling fraud, waste,

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Speaker 1: and abuse in those programs. Individuals that still want to

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Speaker 1: get medicaid can still get medicaid. All Republicans did was

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Speaker 1: try to go and put safeguards in to make sure

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Speaker 1: that fraud isn't taking place. Governor Tim Walls is quick

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Speaker 1: to go and get in front of a camera, in

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Speaker 1: and it's not just Walls, it's all the Democrats. All

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Speaker 1: these individuals are going to lose out on all these services.

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Speaker 1: It's going to cost all this money to people who

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Speaker 1: depend on these services. So where is the commentary surrounding

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Speaker 1: the fraud taking place in these services being passed?

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Speaker 2: What about the fourteen different.

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Speaker 1: Programs that Walls put a pause on as well as

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Speaker 1: they're investigated for fraud. Where's his commentary? Where is his

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Speaker 1: hard to wrenching concern over individuals that are going to

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Speaker 1: lose out on these services pointing to the fraud and

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Speaker 1: how awful it is, Oh, nothing but crickets.

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Speaker 6: Over the same period, active provider licenses grew bi roughly

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Speaker 6: fifty five percent and new license applications grew by over

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Speaker 6: two hundred and eighty three percent, so DHS says the

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Speaker 6: number of provider licenses approved significantly outpacing demand for services,

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Speaker 6: has prompted a need for further review. The department says

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Speaker 6: during this pause, it'll stop accepting new license applications, stop

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Speaker 6: issuing new licenses, and may even cancel existing applications. So

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Speaker 6: when will this moratorium go into effect? Starting next month

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Speaker 6: on January first, it's anticipated to run for twenty four months,

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Speaker 6: ending on December thirty first, twenty twenty seven, and the

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Speaker 6: department says most services under this umbrella are funded under

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Speaker 6: Minnesota's Medicaid waiver programs. During this licensing pause, exceptions will

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Speaker 6: be considered for certain requests from counties, tribal nations, or

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Speaker 6: case managers reporting in the studio, so young.

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Speaker 1: Kim Fock and again that was a courtesy of Fox nine.

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Speaker 1: So if you thought for just a moment, I'd mean,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't, I did for you. Why they're waiting

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Speaker 1: to pause that until January first? They're waiting to pause

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Speaker 1: here's my guess. They're waiting to pause that in walls

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Speaker 1: and DHS or waiting to put a pause on those

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Speaker 1: because you know what else is coming in January, that

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Speaker 1: is the full investigative report on the audit relating to

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Speaker 1: the fraud by Joe Thompson. So while the Star Tribune

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Speaker 1: wants to play this semantics game of officially we only

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Speaker 1: see one hundred and fifty two two million dollars in fraud,

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Speaker 1: not the one billion that Trump keeps saying. Again, you

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Speaker 1: and I both know that's bogus. Everybody knows it's focus

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Speaker 1: and start Tribute knows it's bogus. No, they're putting the.

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Speaker 2: Pause in January.

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Speaker 1: So that when this is my guess, so that when

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Speaker 1: that official audit comes out and we have that billion

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Speaker 1: dollar plus number coming from the US Attorney's Office in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: that Walls can immediately go and say.

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Speaker 2: Oh, hey, you don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Look we already put a pause on the disability waivers

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Speaker 1: that just started.

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Speaker 2: We're up, we're ahead of it, We're taking care of it.

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Speaker 1: If it ends up being revealed, if Slash win, these

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Speaker 1: disability waivers in these programs do turn out to be fraudulent.

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Speaker 2: Right now is just an investigation.

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Speaker 1: And that may end up being what led to the

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Speaker 1: eighteen billion dollar surplus going up in smoke. Again, Walls

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Speaker 1: can say, but just what I am on top of it.

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Speaker 1: See what we did, we ended, We ended this starting

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Speaker 1: in January.

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Speaker 2: Just you wait and.

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Speaker 1: See more of your talkbacks coming up from the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: apples are brought to you by Lynden Dahl Realty. I

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Speaker 1: want to get back to a bit of what Bill

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Speaker 1: Glahn had to say regarding that feeding our future article.

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Speaker 1: We're going to hop into the excuse me, the Star

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Speaker 1: Tribune article about the only one hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 2: We'll hop back into the way well, into the wayback machine,

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Speaker 2: and we'll hear from.

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Speaker 1: A then former Republican Congressman Jason Lewis back in twenty

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Speaker 2: As we've been talking about on the show this morning.

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Speaker 1: Star Tribune coming to the aid of Governor Tim Walls

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Speaker 1: through his buddy Steve Grove that runs the Star Tribune,

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Speaker 1: ran this ridiculous piece over the weekend, Trump claims Minnesota

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Speaker 1: lost billions to fraud.

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Speaker 2: The evidence to date isn't close.

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Speaker 1: They're going off of the semantics game of official court

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Speaker 1: You can look at the fraud tracker over at americanexperiment

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Speaker 1: dot org. Bill glond does a fantastic job covering this,

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Speaker 1: and the six hundred and sixty one million alone is.

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Speaker 2: Already there, and that was just from July.

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Speaker 1: The Star Tribune right to Bill and this piece fraud

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Speaker 1: what fraud, despite reporting the figure themselves of one billion

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Speaker 1: dollars in fraud, dismisses that number, claiming that the career

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Speaker 1: prosecutor Joseph Thompson has not offered evidence to support it.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Star Tribune provides no support as to

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Speaker 1: I would direct the reader to his article to the

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Speaker 1: exhibit list from the first courtroom trial in the Feeding

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Speaker 1: Our Future case. The list itself runs one hundred and

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Speaker 1: nineteen pages long. Focus your attention to trial exhibits labeled

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Speaker 1: with the prefixes M, NO and P. Those include summary

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Speaker 1: charts and banking records of relative entities. The Star Tribune

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Speaker 1: fifty two million dollars is trivial and not a cost

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Speaker 1: for concern. The scandal Tracker cites twenty eight fraud cases

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Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty five, the Star.

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Speaker 1: Bizarrely, the Star Tribune discusses the twenty nineteen childcare subsidy

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Speaker 1: scandal and cites a confirmed loss figure at five million,

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Speaker 9: Hey, good morning guys, John. I happen to be cruising

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Speaker 10: Situation in my home state of Minnesota, where we've got

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Speaker 1: If only somebody had been listening to Jason Lewis back

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Speaker 12: Good morning, John Paul from Brooklyn Park. So did Keith

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Speaker 11: should have had a system in place to determine that

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Speaker 11: there was a straw buyer over multiple years and multiple stores.

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Speaker 11: But yet he doesn't have seemed to have any responsibility

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Speaker 11: in determining there was a billion dollars of fraud going

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Speaker 11: on over a half a dozen different federally sponsored programs

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Speaker 11: that Minnesota was responsible for.

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Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, Keith Ellison says that

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Speaker 1: this whole Somali fraud scandal, you know it shouldn't be politicized.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say that.

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Speaker 13: We all want to protect the public dollar. We want

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Speaker 13: to prosecute people who engage in fraud.

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Speaker 2: Now you don't. We are up for that, now you're not.

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Speaker 13: But we can't do it on a partisan basis. We

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Speaker 13: got to do it together. We can't use incidents like

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Speaker 13: this to score a political point. We got to come

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Speaker 13: in as a state and say you will not steal

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Speaker 13: money intended for poor people and prosecute them. That's what

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Speaker 13: That's how we protect the resources of the state of Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Then why weren't you doing it?

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Speaker 14: Keith Ellison? Can you please tell me? Since you are

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Speaker 14: the illustrious attorney general of this state and you go

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Speaker 14: on national TV and state that judges were sanctioning you

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Speaker 14: for doing so much to try and prevent fraud, then

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Speaker 14: explain how two hundred and fifty million dollars of our

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Speaker 14: taxpayer dollars was stolen under your watch. You're a liar

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Speaker 14: and you should resign immediately.

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Speaker 2: Scott has spoken this morning from the Daily Wire.

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Speaker 1: Smalie tied welfare fraud scheme in Minnesota is likely far

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Speaker 1: worse than the American people think, involving complicit state to

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Speaker 1: government officials and totaling far more money than the original

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Speaker 1: early estimates. Stated again, that Star Tribune article is going

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Speaker 1: to age badly. This is all according to Homeland Security

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Speaker 1: Advisor Steven Miller.

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Speaker 2: Here's a bit of what he had to say.

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Speaker 15: With all the scams, with pretending that children have autism

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Speaker 15: who are not in fact autistic, with pretending to enroll

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Speaker 15: people in food programs when in fact nobody was ever enrolled,

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Speaker 15: and engaging in massive fraud, lying and theft and grift

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Speaker 15: on a skill we've never seen before in American history.

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Speaker 15: The total bill, the total tab for this is going

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Speaker 15: to be far beyond the numbers we've already seen reported.

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Speaker 15: We believe the state government is fully complicit in this scheme,

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Speaker 15: and we believe that what we are going to uncover

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Speaker 15: is going to shock the American people. Look based on

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Speaker 15: the rutgers that we already have of JA, this is

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Speaker 15: a significant undercount. By the way, seventy five percent of

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Speaker 15: the SMALI population in Minnesota is on welfare. That's likely

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Speaker 15: a significant undercount of just how much of a financial

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Speaker 15: burden the Smali refugee population.

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Speaker 2: Is imposing well me on this country.

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Speaker 1: And again, I wanted to share this with you from

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Speaker 1: the standpoint of I know that we're going over the

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Speaker 1: old ground here, but I wanted to share with you

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Speaker 1: what is being said on the national level regarding this

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Speaker 1: and how this is a national story now it's being

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Speaker 1: investigated by the House Oversight Committee. We talked about this

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Speaker 1: in the first hour of the show when Andrew Langer

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Speaker 1: joined the show, and it can it will continue to

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Speaker 1: be top of news as we headed to the holidays,

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Speaker 1: things will line down. They can only talk about the

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Speaker 1: fraud so much will get past Christmas. But make no

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Speaker 1: mistake next year when January starts paid family medical leave,

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Speaker 1: the halting of the payments and the disability waivers, it

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Speaker 1: tied potentially into the eighteen billion dollars going up in

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Speaker 1: smoke with the surplus money. Why we have and still

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Speaker 1: are facing despite the economic report last week, record deficits

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Speaker 1: here in Minnesota, the governor's race heating up. No, the

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Speaker 1: story's not going away anytime soon. And when we get

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Speaker 1: that full audit coming from the US Attorney's Office in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: it's only going to go and add to it. Democrat

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Representative el han Omar appeared to suggest Sunday on

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Speaker 1: CBS News that the victims of the massive COVID relief

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Speaker 1: fraud scheme in the state, in which nine to ten

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Speaker 1: of those charged or Somali, were other Somali individuals.

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Speaker 14: Hi, John, I was wondering when you were going to

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Speaker 14: get to ilhan Omar's comments.

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Speaker 11: It's just incredible.

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Speaker 2: She's talking about, you know, there.

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Speaker 3: Were no safeguards in place, and that's that's, you know,

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Speaker 3: our fault.

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Speaker 2: The main bault was left open.

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Speaker 3: So I guess people have the right to go in

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Speaker 3: and take the money.

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Speaker 1: On CBS facination, ilhan Omar says that it's Somalians who

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Speaker 1: are the victims of the one billion dollars in the

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Speaker 1: fraud taking place here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: All the eighty seven people charged, all but eight are

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Speaker 5: of Somali descent, and that has added to the spotlight

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Speaker 5: being put specifically on your community. Why do you think

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Speaker 5: this fraud was allowed to get so widespread?

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Speaker 16: I want to say, you know, this also has an

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Speaker 16: impact on Somali's because we are also taxpayers in Minnesota.

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Speaker 16: We also could have benefited from the program and the

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Speaker 16: money that was stolen, and so it's been really frustrating

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Speaker 16: for people to not acknowledge the fact that we're, you know,

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Speaker 16: we're also as Minnesota as the taxpayers, really upset and

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Speaker 16: angry about the fraud that has occurred.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I hope that ilhan Omar. I hope that Governor

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls. I hope they all keep doing interviews because

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Speaker 1: there's no other outcome.

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Speaker 2: But they're incompetence being exposed. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Unless they start siding with the legal citizen taxpayers every

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Speaker 1: single interview saying that they are responsible for what has

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Speaker 1: been taking place, you are going to get the same

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Speaker 1: word salad redirects from all of them on this particular issue. Oh,

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Speaker 1: case in point, speaking of word solid redirects, Hope Walls

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Speaker 1: continues to try to make a name for herself on

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Speaker 1: social media. She posted this clip over the weekend. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was rather interesting. Again, this is Governor Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls's daughter, Hope Walls. Do not play the drinking game

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Speaker 1: of taking a shot every time she says like that

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Speaker 1: will not bode well, especially this early in the day

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Speaker 1: on a Monday.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 17: No, I'm talking about this because well, my family and

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Speaker 17: I are always going to be the bigger people. The

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Speaker 17: president calling my dad what he did has unleashed a

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Speaker 17: storm regarding like offensive language towards me and my family

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Speaker 17: and specifically my brother. You can call me whatever you want.

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Speaker 17: You can call my dad, my mom when it's Gus

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Speaker 17: to the no, to the no. He dealt with people

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Speaker 17: calling him that last August, and now there's a resurgence

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Speaker 17: and no, how is it okay that the president of

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Speaker 17: the United States can call somebody, anybody, doesn't matter who

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Speaker 17: they are, that, and then all of his freaking cult

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Speaker 17: members come and attack those people and that person's family.

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Speaker 17: Say what you want about my dad. He's an elected official, right,

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Speaker 17: like that's gonna happen. I think it's a really disgraceful

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Speaker 17: that the president would do that. But then the attacks

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Speaker 17: that I have seen, I have people dming me saying

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Speaker 17: absolutely horrendous things.

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Speaker 2: When I was home last week, somebody.

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Speaker 17: Drove by and screamed that we were our words, just

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Speaker 17: driving by in their car.

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Speaker 2: People shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 17: I'm like, what world are we living in? And again

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Speaker 17: I draw the line at Gus because he dealt with

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Speaker 17: that four and not again you people are disgraceful shame

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Speaker 17: on you.

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Speaker 2: All of you.

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Speaker 18: Well, aren't people going to abuse the program? How disrespectful

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Speaker 18: to people to assume that all Minnesotans are salmon. That's

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Speaker 18: why I hear from them all the time. I trust Minnesotans.

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Speaker 18: I believe in Minnesotans. I believe they know you're not

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Speaker 18: gonna get rich and it's not your full salary.

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Speaker 2: You're not sorry. I had the wrong clip there.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was the one of Walls talking about

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Speaker 1: people going past his house shouting the R word.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things on Hope Walls here.

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Speaker 1: First off, you know, people should not if that's actually

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Speaker 1: taking place, well, I'll just leave that out there. People

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Speaker 1: should not go and include Gus Walls in on any

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Speaker 1: of this. I've not seen any evidence of that taking place,

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Speaker 1: but if it did, yeah, don't do that. He's not

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Speaker 1: involved in any of this stuff. Hope Walls, on the

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Speaker 1: other hand, is complete a different ball game. She's putting

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Speaker 1: herself out there constantly, and as a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: it's really hypocritical of her to go and post that

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Speaker 1: video talking about how suddenly now she's fine with people

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Speaker 1: doing that, wherein last week she was saying that she

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Speaker 1: wasn't fine with people doing that. And then every time

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Speaker 1: I hear Hope Walls, I started talking like fiend does

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Speaker 1: with that inflection on the.

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Speaker 2: Up part of when I speak.

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Speaker 1: It's comical. It's a redirect. It's a redirect to what's

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Speaker 1: taking place right now. That's all that that was. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: she kind of figures it out. That was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of my read on that was. Maybe Hope understands

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Speaker 1: that trying to go and defend daddy after the President

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Speaker 1: went and called her dad the R word is kind

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Speaker 1: of ridiculous considering what Walls has said over and over

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Speaker 1: again in his various rhetorics. So instead she turned her

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Speaker 1: attention over to gus. People shouldn't do that, but she's

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Speaker 1: a hypocrite for doing so.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's wrap up on this. Do you know

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Speaker 2: any Black Friday shopping? Perchance? Right? Perhaps per chance I.

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Speaker 1: Missed this some but holding on to it for a bit,

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Speaker 1: we got enough time to sneak it in. So Target

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Speaker 1: was raked across the coals following their botched Black Friday

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Speaker 1: giveaway that was overhyped and underwhelming.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear about this? No? Sorry, I thought rhetorical.

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Speaker 1: So they attempted to lure shoppers into the store ahead

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Speaker 1: of Black Friday, promising the first one hundred people online

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Speaker 1: a limited edition iridescent holiday tote filled with fun giveaways.

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Speaker 1: And the fun giveaways included bono cards, shampoo packages, a

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Speaker 1: small bag of Nerds candy, an ELF cosmetic product, and

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Speaker 1: a variety of electrolyte water supplements stuffed into what looked

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Speaker 1: like a tiny, oversized adote bag.

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Speaker 2: I've always said the most fun thing you can do

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Speaker 2: is hydrate. So I've said that for years.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for a good time, yes, get yourself

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Speaker 1: some liquid IV.

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Speaker 2: That's what you do after the good time.

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Speaker 1: If you've missed any portion of today's show, you can

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Speaker 1: check out the podcast. Brett will have those up rather shortly,

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Speaker 1: available on the iHeart Radio app. On tomorrow's show, we

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Speaker 1: got a busy one. I've got the vid Gartzenstein Ross

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Speaker 1: talking AI at six thirty and our adopted Senator out

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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, Ron Johnson. He'll be joining us at seven thirty.

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Speaker 2: Bah