1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Mojo in the morning. It's just not fair. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Why do us guys not get to experience something that 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: the women get to experience. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 3: No, that's not how this conversation went. Wes and I 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 3: went out to dinner last night and we were talking 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: about how I apologize to him, and I said, I 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 3: feel like you met me at the wrong time in 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: my life because I'm forty two years old and I've 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: said this on the air before. I feel like I 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: have all of the symptoms of the dreaded perimenopause, and 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: so I'm like, I feel like since you've met me, 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: I've been dealing with all of these different symptoms of 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: being like super irritable and then an hour later being 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: really joyful or being just really tired, or like there's 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: all the things sweating my ass off when I sleep, 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: and then two seconds later being freezing cold. And he 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: was like, wait a second, So you're telling me that 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: there's perimenopause, premenopause, menopause, postmenopause. There's this period of a 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: woman's life middle eight where it's like ten twelve years 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: where I have to deal with all this crap. And 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: he's like, that is not fair. What do women have 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: to deal with that would that would be equivalent for 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: me guys in terms of phases of their lives, so 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: that we have that women have to put up with 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 3: when it comes to their boyfriends or their husbands. 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: Okay, so because it makes you irritable or something like that. 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 2: As a guy, well, there's just manopause. 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: Right, manopause? But like when is that? What does that 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: look like? Because he's like, I have to deal with 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: it for you for a decade or so, how is 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: that fair that I will have nothing that you will 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: have to put up with? 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: Which is not true. 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Last, first off, very nice to bring this up to 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: a woman who's going through it, because I got to 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: be honest with you, Probably not a smart thing to 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: bring up because it's not a great thing. But I 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: will say this, they go through us having to go 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: through our midlife crisis. 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: That's what I said, I to a midlife crisis. And 41 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: he's like, well, you're lucky because that happened to me early. 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: That happened to me in my thirties when I went 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: through my midlife crisis and you know, got divorced, bottom motorcycle, 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: did all the things. 45 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think college football starts. 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, football team. That's true. That's so true. That's a 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: great one. 48 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: And I do think though that guys go through the 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: period of life and I think a lot of it 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: is not ever talked about, but it's when it's like 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: the period of their life is usually mid to late 52 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: forties fifties, and it's when they got low t And 53 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: I know that I've talked before about testosterone, but when 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: guys have low testosterone, a lot of it is they 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: go through a little bit of depression. They go through 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: like a downtime where they feel like they're down, they 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: feel like they're they feel like they used to be 58 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: that you know how women get really mad at guys 59 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: that they can go on a diet and lose weight 60 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: and they look great all the time so quickly, and 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: you go through a period in your late forties or 62 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: a lot of it happened to me where I right 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: around fifty, where all of a sudden, you're just you 64 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: just don't feel the same anymore, like you know what 65 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: I mean, don't feel like you don't feel like you 66 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: can hit that ball that hard anymore, you know what 67 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean, Or you can go that hard anymore, you know. 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: So I think that I don't know what it'd be called, though, 69 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any manopause. We need something 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: like that, right, so, like you want to start it. 71 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I want to manopause. 72 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: Recognize it's funny because of I look at this, and 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: I look at what women go through between women going 74 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: through the you know, early ages as a girl, young 75 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: girl getting their period, puberty, and then they go later 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: in life having children. Then they go through a period 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: where they go through menopause, and then they go through 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: a period where it's they can't have their period and 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: they get upset about not being able to have their period, 80 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: and then they go through the full on menopause or 81 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: done with menopause. And I look at women and I'm 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: going to tell you this right now, total respect, because 83 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm a guy that's mary has an unbelievable wife, and 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: I've got three sisters. 85 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: I feel for you guys. I would never want to 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: be a woman. It's wild. 87 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: And I don't feel my age, like I feel so 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: much younger than I am, and so like I'm joking 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: about this now of all the things, it truly and 90 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: if you're in the thick of it, you understand this. 91 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: There are periods of the day so so much more 92 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: frequently lately where I want to jump out of my 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: own body, like I don't even like who I am 94 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: or what I'm feeling. 95 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: It is. It's craziness. And honestly, I will say this 96 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: as a guy. 97 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: I didn't understand it when Chelsea was going through the 98 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: premenopause periods, and now I understand. 99 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I stand it. Through the menopause. 100 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: Guys, you just got to like look up what you 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: need to do, Like, honestly, don't try to always try 102 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: to like help, just try to listen and just be 103 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: there as an error because I screwed up a lot 104 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: of that stuff. But I will say, as a guy, 105 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: you will have so much more respect. Like I always 106 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: tell tell everybody, there's three times in my life where 107 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: I looked at my wife like there is no person 108 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: in this world that could ever do anything like her, 109 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: And it was when she gave birth to my kids. 110 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: The entire time she's gone through menopause, I should have 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 2: been looking at her the same way because of how 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: crappy that that that makes you feel, Kevin, you ready 113 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: for being with a girl that goes from menopause? 114 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think let's get you. Let's get 115 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: you a Let's get you a forty five or fifty 116 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: year old woman. Give me somebody I's already had menopause. 117 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: We get some seventy year old lat's right to it. 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: I want to meet her in a nurse. Do they 119 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: have that on hinge at all? 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Like a like a category you probably have to like 121 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: put my date range out. 122 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: It's wild because nobody ever talks about this, like nobody 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: talks about I think. 124 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: I think we've always just heard about menopause, and that 125 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: sounds like such an old lady thing to go through, 126 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 3: and a lot of like perimenopause is I think a 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: newer freight or a newer word, and it is happening 128 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: to a lot of women in their mid to late thirties, 129 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: Like it's I feel like it's something that's happening younger 130 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: and younger for whatever reason. And it's just it was 131 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: so interesting to talk to Wes about it because he's like, 132 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: I met you when you were like this was all starting, 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: And I said, it's funny because I don't even feel 134 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: like I'm me. 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: He's like, so, who did I make it? Is interesting? 136 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: No, it is interesting because I bet you there's a 137 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: great majority of our listeners that are re in the 138 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: dating world. And it's not the same being in the 139 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: dating world that it was when you were in your 140 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: twenties or thirties, for sure. And I can tell you 141 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: then it's trying to When you're in the dating world, 142 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: you're trying to make yourself look hot and sexy and 143 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: all the rest of this stuff. And there's times in 144 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: your life going through it you probably don't feel like 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: you're hot and sexy. 146 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: You're like, I don't want to be hot and sexy. 147 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm hot. That's what I am right now, you know, 148 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: So I can see where that would be. That would 149 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: be kind of tough. 150 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Again, I say this, anybody that wants to be a 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: woman wants to be trained to be a woman. Talk 152 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: to a woman that's gone through menopause. You're not gonna 153 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: want to be a woman. What's going on, Jennifer. 154 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: Just back in the nineteen forties and fifties, the husbands 155 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: could have their wives committed to the psych ward when 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: they were going through benopause because they couldn't deal with 157 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: their mood swings at home. 158 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: Is that wild? That's crazy, that's. 159 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: For real, that's for real. I did a tour of 160 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: the old psych ward up in Traverse City, and they 161 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: were telling us that, Yeah, husbands could just drop their 162 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: wives off and there's nothing the wives could do. 163 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: Wait a second, you're telling me that, as a woman, 164 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: you could go up to Travers City and never have 165 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: to see your husband ever again. That sounds like a 166 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: dream to ninety nine point nine percent of the women listening. 167 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm gonna go up there and do a 168 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: wine tasting and say I'm in a psych ward for 169 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: dad's sakes. 170 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: That's pure Michigan right there. Man, Jennifer, Jennifer, can I 171 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: ask you how old are you? 172 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: Fifty nine? 173 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Have you gone through all this? 174 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: Oh? Yes? And I hated myself for half a minute. 175 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah you did. Your spouse understand? 176 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: You know, he was lucky because I work a lot. 177 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: I just want my home and then I would be 178 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: home and I'd be mean. He goes what you just 179 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: go work some more. You're so pleasant. 180 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well you guys are still together. Oh yeah, 181 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: that makes me so happy to hear. That's incredible. You 182 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: guys love on each other tonight. Okay, Uh, what's out? 183 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Eric? I didn't mean it that way. What's out? Barrack 184 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: in my opinion. 185 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: In my opinion, the men equivalent that women have to 186 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: deal with. It's not like a period of a man's life, 187 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 4: it's just their entire life. 188 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: It's like masculine ADHD. 189 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: God bless my wife for having to deal with me, and. 190 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: She is a saint. 191 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: That is actually really funny. It's true though. Yeah. The 192 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: ADHD man. 193 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: Random projects is just start them off. 194 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: With great call man, what's up Steve? How you doing? 195 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, guys. They doing Hey, we don't keep 196 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: talking about menopause, but really talking about Kevin's ready for 197 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: his mid life crisis with a new Mustang. 198 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: I know I needed a louder car so when I 199 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: pull up to the Grandmas, they can hear the engine 200 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: a bit better. 201 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we know you're about to go up to your 202 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: midlife crisis. Will start buying some new clothes. 203 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: You you know what you see the signs. 204 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: I walked out of the station yesterday, I saw that 205 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: car in front of the front parking spot of the station. 206 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want one of those. Seriously, went right 207 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: through it.