1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Todd light WICKI was with us earlier today, the CEO 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: of the Kraken CEO of One roof Sports and Entertainment, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: joined us today after the big news in New York 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: for the Borgan Board of Governors, and we asked him 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to describe, in his words, what today meant, what today 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: was all about for basketball fans here in Seattle. 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: I think today is a day validation of Sonics fans 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: and all of Seahawks or all of Seattle sports fans, 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: because it is really without the fans, none of what 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: we're about to talk about really happens. And I think, 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: what's an amazing and you know what, it almost sounds 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: tried to say it, but the fans in this town 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: are the greatest sports fans in the world, and you 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: can measure it pound for pound. We have the best 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: sports fans that there are. And I think that today 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: is another important step and you know, maybe correcting, you know, 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: making something right that was wroung eighteen years ago, and 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: it is exciting. We're not there yet, but it's definitely 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: a positive, positive step. 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Well, there's no question about that. 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: And I guess Todd, let me just ask you about that, 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: because I feel very good about this. I'm excited. I'm 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: actually thrilled about the news today. But as you said, 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: we're not there yet. So in your opinion, in your words, 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: what has to happen now for us to quote unquote 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: get there and seal the deal. 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and I am going to say again, 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the most important thing we have are fans, 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: and this is a renowned sports market. And when you 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: look at the support that the teams have here, you know, 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: it's just incredible. And you know, whether it be the Mariners, 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: the Sonics, the Storm, my Sounders are cracking, the new 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: team in town, the Torrent, the level of support is incredible. 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: So I think the league never really gives consideration to 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: what might be a dating issue and other communities can 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: work because I think there's an inherent belief that we 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: have amazing fans here and we do. I've worked for 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: him for now sixteen years and I love it. Well, 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: not my reasons, sorry. One of the reasons the Sonics 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: left was that we couldn't get the venue fixed, and 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, it was hard. And I think when Howard 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: took over the job of you know, at that point 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: in time in our world, the job of government was 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: to have facilities that teams could make home and make 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: the business plan work, and at that point in time, 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Key Arena was not capable of doing that. That ownership 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: group tried, but they lost quite a bit of money, 48 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: and at that point in time, the government said we're 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: not going to do that. And there was a city 50 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: and City council person who said that he felt that 51 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: basketball brought very little cultural value to the city and 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: things were said that weren't fair or weren't right, and 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: it was a moment in time. So that had to 54 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: get fixed one way or another, and it got fixed. 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: Privately funded arena, which is a beautiful arena. It is 56 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: home to seventy concerts. It's the only arena in the 57 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: world that hosts two professional women's teams. It's been an 58 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: incredible home for the Kraken and it's poised to be 59 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: home for the NBA. And we made significant news this 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: week talking about Samantha Holloway, our great owner, in her 61 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: additional investment in the arena. And all it does is 62 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: it really it has definite impact on how we operate 63 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: day to day. And OVG is still a partner. They're 64 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: still going to manage the building. They're going to help 65 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: us book the shows, but it also sets the table 66 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: for you know what's about to come. And it's another 67 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: compelling part of this story. But we sawd what was 68 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: at that point in time. The biggest challenge that the 69 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: community had was the venue. We're the only arena in 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: a park in the world. The building is now one 71 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: of the top concert buildings. When we put tickets on sale, 72 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: they sale. We fixed the transportation issue. We actually bought 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: into half of the monorail operating company and change that. 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: That last mile now is ridden by thousands of people. 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: On the average cracking game, thirty percent of the people 76 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: are taking public transportation. That situation's resolved. We will now 77 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: put our best foot forward for the NBA, and I'm 78 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: quite hopeful, but we're never going to get in front 79 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: of the commissioner. We've been saying this for eight years. Yeah, 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: but you know what, he took a step forward or 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: right behind him, So we're not in front of them, 82 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 2: but we're right behind him. And the whole thing definitely 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: took a big step forward. 84 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: To well, Todd, It's funny, Todd LAWICKI is with us, 85 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: and I'm half kidding obviously, but if I had a 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: dollar for every time I heard you or Tim by 87 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the way, say we're not going to get in front 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: of the commissioner, I'd have like maybe eight hundred and 89 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: fifty dollars by now, because you've said that a lot. 90 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: You've been consistent with that since you showed up. All 91 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: you can do is take care of your end and 92 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: hope it's enough for the NBA. But let me ask 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: you this, if the bid was due tomorrow, do you 94 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: have all your ducks in a row? Do you have 95 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: all your financing? Is the ownership group put together? If 96 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: this bid is due tomorrow and you guys need to 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: go meet somebody in some hotel room in New York City, 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: are you guys ready? 99 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: Now? 100 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: Well, first, you know, the most important thing we've done 101 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: is we have the arena done, and so are we ready? 102 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: I believe Samantha Holloway believes our city is not complete 103 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: without the return of the NBA, and she would be 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: an incredible owner, And I believe she's poised to do it. 105 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: And you know she won't do it alone. There'll be 106 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 2: others that go on this journey with us. This isn't 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: something we just started thinking about today. We started thinking 108 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: about it eight years ago, and that included how we 109 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: designed the building. And the building is fantastic for hockey, 110 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: but it also was customized specifically for an end use 111 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: of knowing someday, if the stars aligned, that the Sonics 112 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: would come back. And in this journey the last eight years, 113 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: so many people have come and told me stories about 114 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: how they grew up, how they had a defining moment, 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: how they and you know, the city had its heartbroken. 116 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: And I was here. I was running the Seahawks and 117 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: we were launching the Sounders, and you know, the stadium 118 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: had become this, you know, Quest Field at that point 119 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: in time, had become the loudest venue in all of 120 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: the NFL. The Sounders were the most successful launch in 121 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: the history of soccer in America. And yet somehow we 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: lost the team that was here first. And I do 123 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: have one regret. That regret is that, you know, we 124 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: had two statues we put up last summer of two 125 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: incredible people. One was super Bird and the other was 126 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: Lenny Wilkins. And I have a regret that Lenny's not 127 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: going to be sitting courtside for that first game. And 128 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: he became a really, really great friend of mine. I 129 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: admired him because you know, my first job was in 130 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 2: the NBA, and I've had three experiences with the NBA, 131 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: but my first job was with the Golden Set Warriors, 132 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: and I remember the first time I met Lenny and 133 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: you felt you were in the presence of someone great, 134 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: and I was on there to shake his hand. But 135 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: later that same life, he really became a great friend 136 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: of mine, and I always hope that this would go 137 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: down and he would have a seat center court, and 138 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: that would be an incredible moment. But I'm glad we 139 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: got the stay you done, and I know that from 140 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: up above us, he's shearing us on, saying, let's get 141 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: it done. 142 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm totally with you on that thousand percent. There's 144 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot of other people too, you know that that 145 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: aren't going to be here for the return of this 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: whole thing when it does happen. But are you guys 147 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: expecting competition in regards to a bid for this thing? 148 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's going to be interest, and 149 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit in judgment of that. You 150 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: control what you can control. I do know that when 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: you think about ownership, you know there's going to be 152 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: a substantial investment. I'm not gonna I don't want to 153 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: get into speculating on what the final price would be, 154 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: but we know there's going to be a substantial investment. 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: But there's other things that account And I think that 156 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: Samantha Holloway, you know, she moved here four years ago 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: and some people know her. Others have only heard about her, 158 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: but I know her, I work. I've worked for her 159 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: longer than I worked for her dad. And I'll just 160 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: tell one story, and that is about Memorial Stadium. When 161 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: we saw the RP, it was published by the city 162 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: in the school district. You know, it was a lot, 163 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: So you had these two separate entities. They had some alignment, 164 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: but they definitely had different needs and visions of what 165 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: Memorial Stadium could be in a new iteration. And we 166 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: went to her and said, you know what, we want 167 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: to bid, but we don't want to bid commercially. We 168 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: effectively want to bid through the spirit of the foundation. 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: And it's been a massive project. It's one hundred and 170 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: forty million dollar project. There was a lot of investment 171 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: needed to take the prior stadium down, but that journey 172 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: started with concepting, getting the two partners aligned on what 173 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: the stadium could be, design, pricing, bidding, raising money, and 174 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: we raised tens of millions of dollars and now you know, 175 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: we're fourteen months out. And that kind of capacity of 176 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: an owner who truly lives here and cares about this franchise. 177 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: This is her home. She cares deeply, and she's expressed 178 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: it in so many ways, including what I just talked about. 179 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: And of all the things that I've done in my 180 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: career from a community standpoint, there's nothing even close to 181 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: what the Memorial Stadium efforts been. And that was really 182 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: on her watch, with her consent, with her approval, and 183 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: her cheeringness on every day. And that stadium is going 184 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: to have an incredible impact on Seattle public schools and 185 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: it's a super exciting thing, and so other things aren't 186 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: going to count. And the NBA is going to want 187 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: to make sure that when it comes back, it never leaves. 188 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: And we think, we think, if you look at the profile, 189 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: there are so many positive things. And yes there will 190 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: be a heck of a check needed to be written, 191 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: but that won't be the only thing. I'm more excited 192 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: by that. We've been working on this for eight years 193 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: and today was another big step forward. And I've got 194 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: tons and tons of messages today of people saying, let's 195 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: do this, you know, and it's an interesting time. It's 196 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: an interesting time both globally, nationally and locally, and news 197 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: like this can change the spirit of the city. So 198 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: we're quite hopeful, and we're working hard at it today 199 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: and we're going to do that same thing tomorrow. 200 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, let me toide wrap it up with this, because 201 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I've appreciated your approach in your excitement. At the same time, 202 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: it's actually kind of amazing and impressive how you've got 203 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: this ability to get people excited about something but also 204 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: remind them there's a process, right so and that for 205 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: people like me that's very important because I want to 206 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: just start buying tickets and merchandise right now, and I 207 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: want to get on the horn and you know, go 208 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: to the website and put my deposit down. But people 209 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: are excited, man, I mean, look, the reality is people 210 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: are really fired up about today. But as you've pointed out, 211 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: as Adam Silver pointed out, there's no handshakes, there's no promises, 212 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: nothing's been promised to anybody, nothing's been offered. 213 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm asking you as a friend, and I'm asking. 214 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: You, as a guy who I think people really look 215 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: up to and respect in this town, can we get 216 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: excited about this? 217 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: Well, the answer is absolutely. In my heart of hearts, 218 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: I had a pretty good job, and when I thought 219 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: about coming back to Seattle and serving these fans and 220 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: thought about building an arena, the arena turned out better 221 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: than we thought. The support of the crack and has 222 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: been incredible. But there was one thing that I was 223 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: prayed and hoped would come, and today I feel like 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: it's it's not a prayer anymore. It's not a hope. 225 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: There's a real, real strong probability that if we put 226 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: our best foot forward, the right leaders come together and 227 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: are in harmony on how this could work and how 228 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: this could be. How can they not say it, this 229 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: is what we should do. It's and I think Adam 230 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: is an incredible leader. But you know, I'll just say this, 231 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: you know, Softie, we have been working on this for 232 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: eight years and there's a lot of stuff that will 233 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: be important in a bid, and we are well positioned 234 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: and we have a great owner, and she is different 235 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: than other owners. She's vibrant, she's young, she's a she 236 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: and not a he I am so proud of the 237 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: value she is brought to this organization, and all of 238 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: that is going to count because, as Adam said today, 239 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: we also want to make sure that this works long term. 240 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of people were you know, 241 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: I remember as I started this journey, there were a 242 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: lot of people saying it's not going to work. That 243 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: building can't get renovated. I've read an article today that 244 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: talked about it being read it wasn't renovated. We held 245 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: up a forty million pound roof and built a brand 246 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: new arena underneath it. And it is so intimate. The 247 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: upper deck connects off the suitet level. There is really 248 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: no upper deck. And when the fans come into that building, 249 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: if it comes true and the fans come into that 250 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: building under that roof and see the first game for 251 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: the return of the Sonics, it is going to be 252 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: an epic, epic moment, and the fans in this city 253 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: deserve it. I love the fans, and that's why I've 254 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: hung in there. I'm not a spring chicken, but I 255 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: think Sam, myself and everyone in this organization has this 256 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: intense desire to pull this off because we have a 257 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: deep devotion to the community and a deep devotion to 258 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: the fans. And you know it does sound trite, and 259 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: people sometimes tease me about it. How I talk about 260 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: the fans. They are phenomenal. The fans here are the 261 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: greatest in the world. And I've been around a long time. Man. 262 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: These fans have given life to a lit of things, 263 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: and I think they're about to do it again here. 264 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. We'll let you go. 265 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: We appreciate this. 266 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: Uh. 267 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: You've brought tears to my eyes twice when you won 268 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: us our first Super Bowl after you hired Pete Carroll. 269 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: You brought tears to my eyes when you brought the 270 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: hockey team home, and now you're doing it again getting 271 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: me fired up for basketball, man. 272 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: So thank you for everything you're doing. 273 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: It's not it's not me, it's we and you guys 274 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: talking about this every day and keeping the dream alive. 275 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: And teams have left towns have never gone back. 276 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: I know. 277 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be the story here. 278 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: I love it. 279 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Hey, great stuff, man, Go get it done, bring it 280 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: home and we'll talk soon. 281 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: Buddy. Appreciate this. Todd. 282 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: Okay, see if auls go Todd. 283 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: Lightwiki with us earlier today. 284 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I think the money shot the money line, boys, is 285 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: it Okay Todd our leader, Uncle Todd, our fearless leader. 286 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Can we now get excited? You absolutely can't. Son now 287 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: with shivers down my spy, that was it. That was 288 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: it when he went he knows enough and like he 289 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: very much won't. I mean, gosh, here's here's your eight 290 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty first dollars, softie. 291 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: He's not gonna get in front of Adhaim. 292 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: So we will not come at front of the commercial 293 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: at the same time two thousand depositors. 294 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: You read between that, You read between the lines. This 295 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: guy knows it's gonna happen. It's happening, baby, of course. 296 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: Well that's why the guy was put on this planet 297 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: to make us whole. He brought us a Super Bowl 298 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: title by hiring Pete Carroll, he brought us the NHL, 299 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: and now he's about to get the NBA back and 300 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: tell the question is what's next? What's next? The PGA, 301 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: NASCAR is there? Like is is the EPL looking to 302 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: expand in North America? 303 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: I want an NFL draft. I want the NFL draft here. 304 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: We will get the draft. We will absolutely get the draft. 305 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have the NBA All Star Game, We're gonna 306 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: have the NFL Draft. 307 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: We're gonna have it all, baby, We're gonna have all 308 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: of it. 309 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Mike Florio actually today wrote about the Sonics and how 310 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: they might impact the Seahawks sale, the price of the 311 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: Seahawks sale, Jackson Smiths, and Jigba's new deal. That's all 312 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: coming up next on ninety three three kJ, It's. 313 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: Time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks Mike Florio, 314 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 4: brought to you by Simply Seattle. 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Crazy day, and no 324 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: better guy to get on to talk about all of 325 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: it than our friend from Pro Football Talk dot Com. 326 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: The NFL on NBC our buddy Mike Florio, Michael, how 327 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: are you pow? 328 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: What's going on? 329 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: I thought you had a basketball team. 330 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: We did, and they gave it away eighteen years ago, 331 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: and now we're trying to get it back. 332 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: What happened to it? 333 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: The guy that runs Starbucks stabbed us on the back. 334 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's. 335 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: Pretty much it. You know the drill and listen. 336 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: You wrote about this today on Pro Footballtalk dot com 337 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: about how this could potentially impact the NFL. But talk 338 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: to us from a guy that's observed the expansion process 339 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: before in the NFL and as an observer of the 340 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: expansion process and other sports. I think a lot of 341 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: fans here today in Seattle might feel pretty comfortable about this, 342 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: But it's not over until it's over. What does this 343 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: say to you today that the NBA is now going 344 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: to be accepting bids on two expansion teams, one in 345 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Vegas and one in Seattle. 346 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, it's a way to create more inventory and 347 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: also generate extra money for the team. Somebody's going to 348 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 5: pay that huge fee. They're looking at up to ten 349 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: billion dollars per team that gets divided among all the 350 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: existing teams. But the reality is it's a way to 351 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: get the more games without adding games. 352 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: That's why the. 353 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: NFL, I think, would say, look at if the NFL 354 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 5: wants more total games that can be peeled off and 355 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: played on the various nights of the week, and they 356 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 5: want to get to eighteen games very badly. But when 357 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 5: you add a couple of teams, you're adding sixteen more 358 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 5: total games or eighteen more total games. If it goes 359 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: to eighteen, those two you've got two extra teams that 360 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 5: are going to be playing, you know, the total number 361 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 5: of games. So it's basically for every two teams, you're 362 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: adding the total number of games that you play. And 363 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 5: it's going to push the NFL higher and higher, and 364 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: I think they will expand at some point, and when 365 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: they see the numbers that come into the franchises in 366 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: the NBA, I think that'll just extradite the process. 367 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're talking about between seven and ten billion. I 368 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be ten billion, but it 369 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: might be eight, it might be eight and a half, 370 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: it might be nine. So when it comes to the Seahawks, 371 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: because the Seahawks are also now up for sale, you 372 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: know we're going. 373 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: To see if Jody Allen, you know who. 374 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, as of today, the trust loans the Portland Trailblazers. 375 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: They're being sold, They're in the process of being sold 376 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: and being approved by the NBA. But does this have 377 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: any impact at all you think on the Seahawks sale, 378 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the value of the Seahawks and could you potentially see 379 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Jody Allen getting involved here with the NBA once or 380 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: days with the Hawks are over. 381 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: Well, anytime you see a big number in any sport, 382 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: that is just going to support more big numbers across 383 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 5: the board. So a higher number for the NBA, even 384 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 5: though it's a different league, that's going to send to 385 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 5: push the price of the Seahawks hire. 386 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: And she's not getting this money. 387 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 5: I don't know how much money she has on her 388 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 5: own right, but it's not like she's going to break 389 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 5: in and the estimate that we reported back in February 390 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 5: nine to eleven billion, it's not like she's going to 391 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: take ten billions and walk away. That's going to the 392 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 5: truck that's the donated to the charities of Paul Allen's choice. 393 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 5: Somebody asked me recently, could she just buy the Seahawks. Wells, 394 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 5: you're gonna have to be the highest bidder, right, it's 395 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 5: going to the highest bidder for the directions of her 396 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 5: brother's trust. So if she somehow has ten billion, eleven 397 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: billions squirreled away, that she can and you don't have 398 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 5: to write the check for the whole price. You have 399 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 5: to hold thirty percent of it on your own and 400 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: then you build out if you so choose investors around you. 401 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 5: But you're still going to have thirty percent of the 402 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: purchase price in cash ready to go. And that's that's 403 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: a lot of money. And there aren't a whole lot 404 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: of people who could just show up and write that check. 405 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Now, no doubt. 406 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: Mike Florio's with US Pro Football Talk dot Com, NFL 407 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: at NBC, and speaking of writing checks, the Hawks are 408 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: going to write a big one to Jackson smith and Jigba. 409 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was a coup man getting 410 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: him locked up with two years left, the fourth year 411 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: and then the fifth year option. Some folks wonder if 412 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: he'll regret signing a year early, but he's the highest 413 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: paid wide receiver in the NFL as of right now. 414 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: What do you make of a commitment to Jackson Smiths 415 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: and Jigma by the Seahawks why. 416 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: Would he regress. 417 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 5: Sim In you're early who is due to make two 418 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: point seventy five million, Now he's going to make thirty 419 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 5: six point five million this year. That's the same people 420 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 5: don't realize. They hear extension and the agents do the 421 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 5: calculations of the value of the extension based on the 422 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 5: new money. It doesn't start in the first year of 423 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: the new deal. The contract gets torn up. The two 424 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: years left for Jackie Smith and Jigba disappear and it's 425 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: replaced by a new six year contract that has dramatically 426 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 5: increased cash flow. And when he gets through twenty twenty eight, 427 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: the third year of the new contract, he's going to 428 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: be sixty two million ahead of what he was doing 429 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: to make the next two years. So this is something 430 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 5: that more teams need to do with first round draft 431 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 5: picks who have proven that they can play. 432 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: At a high level. 433 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: Don't wait until year five. Get the deal done. Now 434 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 5: there's a temptation to kick the can through that fourth year. 435 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: You get that player for another year cheap, and you 436 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 5: resisted taking the injury risk for a guy like Jackson 437 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 5: Smith and Jigbo who's listed at what six foot one 438 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 5: ninety five, which means he's five to eleven one seventy 439 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: five for a guy who's not real big, who's got 440 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 5: a higher injury risk, that's critical to move that that 441 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: risk over to the team. So you're gonna have other 442 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 5: teams in that same situation where they get those two 443 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 5: years left, they're gonna want to try. And the Vikings 444 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: did it with Justin Jefferson, the Bengal Ziba Jamar Chase 445 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 5: try to get through that fourth year because that money 446 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 5: never comes back. You get that player at a bargain 447 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: in year four. So it was huge that Jackson Smith 448 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: and jigg who was able to get them to do that. 449 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: No question for the Hawks for sure. 450 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: But Mike, before you go, man, we're kind of waiting 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: to see the impact that Jasn's contract has on Pookinakua, 452 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: George Pickens, you know, other wide receivers. I mean, you know, 453 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: Jackson's the highest paid receiver today, but he may not 454 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: be tomorrow. But then this bombshell with Pooka Nakua TMZ 455 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: reporting that a woman is alligant or a budging excuse me, 456 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: that Pooka made some anti Semitic comments and bit her 457 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: multiple times. And now the lawyer is now fighting back. So, 458 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, how much trouble is Pooka Nakua in in 459 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: your opinion right now? 460 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: Well, he's been sued for something that entails a battery 461 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 5: and if it's true, there's a photograph of this whole 462 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 5: mouth fite Mark and if that's him, and if he 463 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: did that, he's gonna have an issue. Look at what 464 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson got to spend it for. He was never arrested, 465 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: he was never charged criminally. He had twenty plus lawsuits 466 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: leedging this conduct during massage therapy sessions, and he ended 467 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: up being suspended ten games. The lawyer says it was horseplay. 468 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: Seems to concede there was a bite. I think that 469 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 5: part of it, the physical part of it, is far 470 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 5: more problematic for Pooquin Nakula And it's going to go 471 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 5: through the court system and we'll see what they do 472 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: and will that get the Rams to take their time? 473 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: The reality is he's got one year left on a contract. 474 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 5: He wasn't a first round pick, so the Rams got 475 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 5: to deal with him sooner than later, right because next 476 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 5: year he'll be eligible for the franchise tag and then 477 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 5: you get into that dance. One year on the tag, 478 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 5: two years on the tag. No one's going to do 479 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: three years on the tag with a non quarterback, even 480 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: as a quarterback. It's ridiculously expensive. So the clock picking 481 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 5: and the Rams and Nakua are going to need some 482 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 5: clarity on this situation before the Rams are going to 483 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: be comfortable, totally comfortable giving him a massive contract. 484 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Mike, you're the man, great stuff. We appreciate the flexibility. 485 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: Paling a busy day for basketball fans in Seattle, and 486 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk on a week bud see you then all 487 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: I see, all right, man, Mike Florio with us on 488 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: the radio show with some thoughts on Jackson Smith and 489 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: jigbas contract. How this a sonic thing in the NBA 490 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: could potentially impact the Seahawks sale if at all. How 491 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: about the other tenants, the first tenants at Climate Pledge 492 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Arena the crack and they got to get their act together. 493 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 3: Man, Wow, four and ten since the Olympic break. 494 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: The head coach Lane Lambert going to join next on 495 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: ninety three three Runner Comedy. 496 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 6: I thought the news You're out Beatie is March madness. 497 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 6: Now back to SAFTI and on your home for college 498 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 6: Basketball's shining moments. What Sports Radio Nunty three point three 499 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 6: kJ R FM. 500 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: All right, ZAFTI back with you here from the Queen 501 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: and Beer Hall flank by Jackson Felts and before we 502 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: get out of here, big day with basketball in Seattle. 503 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: But we can't forget the cracking man four and nine 504 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: since the break, struggling need to get some wins here. 505 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: They got Tampa tomorrow, but a tough loss last night. 506 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: They do get a point, fall behind, come back and 507 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: lose five to four to shoot out to the defending 508 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: Stanley Cup champions and their head coach Laine Lambert. 509 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: Joining us right now on the air lane. How are 510 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: you man? 511 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 7: Oh, it was tough, but you know, a loss is 512 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 7: a loss and you need two points and I'm not 513 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 7: downplaying that, but you know, to come back the way 514 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 7: we did and get a point out of it, uh, 515 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 7: you know, was a was a bonus for us being 516 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 7: down for one with you know, less than ten minutes 517 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 7: less in the game. So I'll give our I'll give 518 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 7: our guys credit where credit is due. I don't always 519 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 7: give them credit here lately. Yeah, So, uh, you know, 520 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 7: I thought, uh you know, I thought that it was 521 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 7: a it was a heck of a comeback, and I 522 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 7: and I do hope that that's you know, that's the 523 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 7: point we need to get to where we need to 524 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 7: go right. 525 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: Well, now, you got to prove it against a tough 526 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Tampa team tomorrow, obviously, But let's just talk about the 527 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: overall picture, right, twelve games left to go, four nine 528 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: and one since the break. 529 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: I can hear it in your voice. 530 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: I've heard it in your voice now for a couple 531 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: of weeks, how frustrated you are with the way this 532 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: team has played since the break ended. Uh, let me 533 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: ask you flat out, because you've talked about the effort 534 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Are you seeing the effort right now that you need 535 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: from this club, especially coach, from your veteran players. 536 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 7: Uh, you know what, I don't ever really question their effort. 537 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: So to speak. 538 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 7: It's the it's the execution, it's the mental toughness. 539 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: You know. 540 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 7: There's certain things that we've done all year long, certain 541 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 7: protocols that we have that you know, at times when 542 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 7: things are a little crazy or a little hairy out there, 543 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 7: we're not following them properly. And this is the part 544 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 7: that's so frustrating for me. You know, we have a 545 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 7: certain way we've had success doing it, and you know, 546 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 7: you got to have ice in your veins when and 547 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 7: composure when things get tough. And I think just as 548 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 7: an overall group here, it's been a bit of a 549 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 7: learning experience for our hockey team and I think that everybody, 550 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 7: to a man, you know, can be a little bit better. 551 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 7: And you know, we've certainly talked about that with the team. 552 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 7: This is isn't anything they don't know. But obviously our 553 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 7: record coming out of the break, you know, is is 554 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 7: not the one we want and certainly not where we 555 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 7: need to be right now, and it's it's put us 556 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 7: behind the eight ball. 557 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, being five points out of a playoff spot 558 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: coach with twelve games to go, I mean, not to 559 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: be obviously dramatic or anything, but does every game kind 560 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: of feel like a playoff game at this point? 561 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 7: Well, that's what it is for us, you know, And 562 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 7: to be honest with you, you know, we started at 563 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: the beginning of the year, even my very first press conference, 564 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 7: we talked about, you know, where do you want to be? 565 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 7: Where do you see this team in March? And we 566 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 7: said we'd just like to be in the playoff mix. 567 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 7: We'd like to be in a situation where you know, 568 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 7: we're playing meaningful games and so okay, so we're in 569 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 7: that situation. You know that that that's accomplished, but it 570 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 7: feels it feels different than that right now considering you know, 571 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 7: when we went into the break, we were in third place, 572 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 7: and we've lost some ground and obviously some teams have 573 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 7: bypassed us. So you know what it is right now 574 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 7: and what our hockey team and the mentality of our 575 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 7: hockey team right now, and it's good for our younger 576 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 7: players to be able to have this mentality. I know 577 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 7: in the past couple the years they've been out of 578 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 7: it by this time or well before this time. And 579 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 7: you know, the only way you can improve and grow 580 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 7: as an organization is to be playing meaningful games at 581 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 7: this time of the year. And whatever it is we 582 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 7: can take out of these games to move forward and 583 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 7: learn and grow, especially with our young players, is extremely 584 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 7: important for our organization. 585 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Well, Lane, Lambert and Lane, before we let you go 586 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: and get to prep for Tampa tomorrow. We saw Berkeley 587 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: caton on the top line yesterday against the defending champions 588 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: and the guy plays damn near twenty minutes. 589 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: Is that going to be the plan going forward. 590 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 7: Now for me, Berkeley keeps playing the way he is, 591 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 7: that's going to be the plan going forward. You know, 592 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: I thought he made some really elite, high end place again. 593 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 7: You know, this is Berkeley right from the very beginning 594 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 7: of the year. He's just been getting better and better 595 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 7: and you know the improvement he showed. And I'm pretty 596 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 7: sure that as you've watched my coaching style, if you're 597 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 7: if you're deserving of the ice time, you'll get it. 598 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 7: If you're not, you won't. That's part of accountability and 599 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 7: that's what an organization needs in order to move forward 600 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 7: and you know, have success in the long term and 601 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 7: certainly in a playoff format. So accountability is key. And 602 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 7: he's earned his ice time, and you know, I hope 603 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 7: he continues to play away he's playing. We obviously want 604 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 7: production and we need more production out of not only him, 605 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 7: but you know Shane, but we've also we've also needed 606 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 7: some more production out of our older players too. So 607 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 7: you know what we went as a team. We lose 608 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: as a team, we improve as a team, and that's 609 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 7: kind of the process going forward. But Berkeley's done a 610 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 7: good job from the beginning of the year till now 611 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 7: of you know, continuing to grow and build and earn 612 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 7: that ice time that he got last night. 613 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Coach, great stuff, hoping by this time next week. You 614 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: got three games between now and then. Let's go get 615 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: them all? What the hell? 616 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 5: What them all? 617 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: Three? And oh and we'll talk next week. All right? Yeah, 618 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: why not? Why the hell not? 619 00:31:58,880 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: Right? 620 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: Why not? 621 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah? 622 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 7: We got we gotta play them? 623 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: Why not win them? 624 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: Go get them all? Right, coach, thanks for doing this, man, 625 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And we're talking a. 626 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: Week man, No, thank you. 627 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: You got a lane Lambert with us. We will wrap 628 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: it up with that, the head coach of the Kraken. 629 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Great to have him on the show. Big news regarding 630 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: the NBA approving the expansion process. They're gonna look around 631 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: and see if it's worth selling one or a couple 632 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: of teams, and it could be a big, big day 633 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: for Seattle. Man, it's already been a big day, but 634 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: let's make it a bigger day later on this year. 635 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: Big thanks for the Queen Ann Beer Hall. We'll get 636 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: out of here. 637 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Get a break back tomorrow at two o'clock, filling in 638 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: for Ian until three from Jimmy's on First for opening 639 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: day right here on ninety three to three KJRFM,