1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: The rocket recket. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: Come come here, he everybody. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of The Tailgate, brought to you 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: by ticket Master. It's me, your host, si Onminson, sitting 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: across from me, your co host, the Great Chad Daniels. 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: Your favorite team is still over in Europe. They're recovering 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: from a loss in Ireland. They're headed England way, and 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: now we got to get one before we come home. Chad, 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: I don't want to be dramatic. I don't want to 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: start the show. I'm dramatic too often, so I don't 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: want to start the show. I always assume to fly 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: home after a loss sucks, and the only experience I have. 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: We both grew up rural, didn't go to a lot 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: of sporting events as little kids. I went to my 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: first Viking game, I believe, I was a senior in 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: high school. And we want it, but I always had 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: that thing like if we'd have lost, that three and 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: a half hour drive home with a loss hits a 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: lot different than the twenty minute drive back to a Dina. 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: And that's that's what I think about with these England games, Like, dude, 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: if you take. 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: An l in England and then they're. 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: Like well, now, let's right traverse the globe as losers. 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: Ugh, don't care for it. 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: I know you don't believe in jet lag with professional athletes, 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: but I think this is going to be great that 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: they're sitting over Do you do it? 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 4: That's because you told me last week. So I think that. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: They're going to be great sitting over there practicing in 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: their normal time, because I think it would be horrible 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: to have to take that flight home, because I remember 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: going from Minneapolis to Fergus Falls after the Timberwolves got 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: destroyed by the Bulls and they should have and I 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: didn't even get to see Michael Jordan because my back 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: was against the Metrodome ceiling and so uh, there are 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: those times. But I will tell you the first time 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: I ever came to a Twins game, we parked for 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: some reason, way over on the campus and I got 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: to see two people kiss for the first time ever 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: live that weren't my parents, And that was a pretty 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: cool trip home. 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: What an origin story for you, and how you think 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: you did. I do have a lot of friends who 44 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: are going to the England game, and yeah, I mean 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: not just for myself or sake of needing the team 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: to win because the schedule coming up. 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: Daddy, Yeah, you need, you need to get on the 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: right side of the scales of justice. 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. 50 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: We play the Steelers. 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: I don't care for the Steelers, even if I like 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, even if I like our friends who like 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: the Steelers, I don't need to root for the Steelers. 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Now the Browns much like the Bengals in this AFC 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: North run we're on. If there is any fan base 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 3: that I think comes toe to toe with the misery 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: of the Minnesota fan, it is it is the and 58 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: I think they get the I think they have the 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: upper hand. I think had Lebron James never been there, 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: had they not won that Like, sure, you know the 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: Guardians have won some titles, but I think specifically in football, 62 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: they have a hand at a table right next to 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: ours with the oh my, oh my gosh, this is terrible, 64 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: and we are we're miserable when we've been close so 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: many times. And I wonder if this is the same way, 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: if the Niners have this or the Steelers have this. 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: But we have. 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Memorable moments with names that went against us. Yeah, the 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: Hail Mary was invented against us. The Hail Mary game, right, 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: the kick, the Gary Anderson kick. So the Browns, I mean, 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: you want to talk about taking an iconic name blow 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: like at a really hard time twice in row. 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: So it's eighty seven. 74 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: That is the drive, that's the John La And I 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: think we have a lot of people who are younger 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: who like maybe know what that is. 77 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: They've heard it. 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: But to break the specifics of that down, there are 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: five minutes and forty three seconds left. 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: The Browns score. 81 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: To go up twenty thirteen, and then this dude, ken 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: Bell misplays the ensuing kickoff and it's on the two 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: yard line. They've got to go ninety eight yards to tie. Now, 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: every Viking fan right now is going, well, of course 85 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: they're gonna, But I don't. That's not what other people feel. 86 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: No one in Seattle feels that. That's what we feel, 87 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: and that's what the Browns feel. So that's that's the 88 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: iconic Lway drive horrible, right. 89 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: And when you we're saying things like the drive, think 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: of how many drives there have been and this is 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: the drive, the drive, and everyone knows. 92 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: This is when you say. 93 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Madonna or Share, everybody knows what you're talking about. That's 94 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: an embarrassing feeling. 95 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 2: This one's if you think that's bad. 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: So they right, they losing that AFC championship game. They 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: were primed to go to the super Bowl. But there's 98 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: this feeling, obviously in Cleveland at the time, is they 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: had a very good team and they will be back. 100 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: And they did get back to another A championship game, 101 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: and they drove to the Denver eight yard line with 102 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: a minute twelve left. Bernie Coosar hands it off to 103 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: Ernest Beiner. He bounces, he bounces back outside and he 104 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: fumbles and they lose that game. That is forever referred 105 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: to as the fumble. 106 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 107 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: Of all the fumbles, you're the fumble that sucks. I 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: couldn't even think of what the vite. I know what 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: the pick is. When you say, if somebody were to 110 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: say the interception, do you go to the right place 111 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: as a Viking fan, don't know farther across the body 112 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: for me? 113 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, yeah, that's a big one. 114 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know what, I also, you'd say 115 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: the fumble, And I have a bunch of other ideas. 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: Sure, can I tell you I think they just got 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 4: it early? 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Can you the other thing that I do. 119 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: And you're a huge hockey guy, so this is relevant 120 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: to watch a beloved team move from a city and 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: have that owner become a villain like we with the 122 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: north Stars, the the Browns moving and that whole song, Like, 123 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm not as big a hockey guy if you have. 124 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: The Dallas Stars won a title. 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me tell you, let me tell you 126 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: that we yeah, we almost well. 127 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: We were right there. 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: We were on the doorstep. And that's the year they moved. 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: And my first, my first album. Instead of a thank 130 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: you list, it's a letter to Norm Green for moving 131 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: the team. And it's not great. I had to put 132 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: it on the inside. 133 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: Also our city. 134 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: Because of that, we had the shot at having I like, 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: in my opinion, the iconic collection of team names, the 136 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: north Stars. I believe the Minnesota north Stars was the 137 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: best team name in the entire NHL. That is my 138 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: personal opinion. It sucks that it's the Dallas Stars. I 139 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: think that's horrific, but also maybe the greatest name in 140 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: the history of professional sports. And it still is because 141 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: they went on to all their their success. But the 142 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: Minneapolis Lakers, the Lakers, we could be the Minneapolis Lakers, 143 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, the Minnesota north Stars, and the Minnesota Twins. 144 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: That's pretty It's untouchable for names. 145 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's untouchable for names, and yet it feels so 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: touchable for lack of titles. Uh. Here's what I will say, though, 147 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: I think if you're trying to pick out the teams 148 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: in the NFL that I think we can share misery 149 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: with and root for, it's a very small list. You 150 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: and I both love the Buffalo Bills. 151 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: Bills, yeah, owen foreign Super Bowls just like the virus. 152 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: Really really really easy to root for them. The Detroit Lions, 153 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: even though they're in the same division, Like, until we're eliminated, 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: I want them to lose. But once we're eliminated, as 155 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: long as it's not by them, you know, Like I 156 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: think the Lions, and then I think it's the Bengals. 157 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: It's the Bengals and the Browns because some of the 158 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: other ones that have struggled, like the Jags and some 159 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: other places, like there's just not the long history where 160 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: with the Vikings, and I think this is the same 161 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: way with the Browns. I'm of the firm belief had 162 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: you won two of those Super Bowls. I think we 163 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: are in the conversation with the Packers, Niners, Steelers, Cowboys, 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: the more iconic franchise, and the Browns had a couple 165 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: of big misses in that same way. 166 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think you. I think these cities 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: that you're talking about they can't win. I mean, I 168 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: believe that they could talent wise, But I'm saying for 169 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: the fan base, the fan base needs to go to work, 170 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: and they need to get up, and they need while 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: they're while they're trying to start their car when it's 172 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: twenty below zero, they need to be able to say, well, 173 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: at least we're not the Browns, and. 174 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: The Browns go at least we're not the Vikings, and 175 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: the Vikings go at least we're not the Lions and 176 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: the Bills. Go at least we're not the Bengals. Like 177 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: it's just a circular say. 178 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like it is interesting. 179 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: What I would say is it's really interesting getting to 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: know all these other fan bases when you kind of 181 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: do this on a week to week basis. Because that 182 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: same miss the Bills oh for four, the Vikings oh 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: for four, with the championship loss, the Browns the move 184 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: their losses. 185 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: Everybody handles it really differently. It's almost like this is 186 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: this metaphor sucks Chad. 187 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: But do you remember the movie The Mask? Of course, 188 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: so when the mask would go on, whatever was inside that, 189 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 3: Like Jim Carrey was silly, so he became a cartoon character. 190 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: Dorian Gray was evil, so he became, you know, a 191 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: big evil guy. The mask kind of elevates the personality 192 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: of the person to this large level. I think that's 193 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: what losing does to a city where Minnesota is so 194 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 3: passive aggressive, yeah, and so like. 195 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: Friendly not friendly. 196 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: We become Charlie Brown where you go to the Browns, 197 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: like we're constantly tricked by Hope, whether it's Carson Wentz 198 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: or JJ McCarthy. First touchdown that gets thrown on Sunday 199 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: against the Browns, a large percentage of our fan basically 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: like here we go and then the first mistake we 201 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: make a lot that same large percentage. 202 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: Of go, wow, it happened again. It happened again. 203 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: We ride the wave, whereas like the Browns they stand 204 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: so far on shore right trash talking the way right, 205 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: whereas in Buffalo they're like, what if I put my 206 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: emotion through this. 207 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 4: Table with my body exactly. 208 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: It's interesting to see how each city puts the mask 209 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: on to close the metaphor. 210 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, it was a good one. 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely correct that metaphor sucked. 212 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: Now. I used to have to watch the vikings with a. 213 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Certain group of people, and the leader of that group 214 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: of people, I'm telling you, if if the kickoff return 215 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: wasn't to the twenty yard line, he would go, man, 216 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: game's over. It was super fun. So I do know 217 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. 218 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: The that's if that is a shot at me, I 219 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: don't believe to be accurate. So I'm really I know 220 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: that I'm up and down a lot, but that can't 221 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: be about me. 222 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: You are up and down in a completely different way. 223 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: That's laughable. This was just annoying. 224 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: This is nine. 225 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: That's great. It feels good. 226 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: Normally the shots are so veiled that it's hard for 227 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: me to see through them to see if they hit 228 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: my torso or not. 229 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because you have so many unlikable 230 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: qualities that you always think a negative comment is about. 231 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: You, brother Pott. Why don't you lay off the cattle 232 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: for a second here? 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Let's get back into our conversation 242 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: with Chad Daniels. The O line thing is nuts, I 243 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: think kidding. I don't know how you deal with that. 244 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: I know that when you're in Europe it's hard to 245 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: get someone in there for some extra depth. 246 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: So with such a. 247 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 3: Well, let me ask before I say that, let me 248 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: ask you this because I think going into these because 249 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: the Cleveland just got smoked by Detroit and they took 250 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: a seven oer lead and then it was an avalanche 251 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: going into that game. They you know, fewest yards per 252 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: game two hundred and four, and it's not like they 253 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: were playing nobody's they played Joe Burrow in Week one. 254 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: That's a very good team. I think they had the 255 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: Ravens and the Packers, so that's. 256 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: A very legit schedule. 257 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: But the Lions, their offense going into the game was 258 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: ranked second, scoring first, and EPA per play, and so 259 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: I was very curious to see what happened when those 260 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: forces met one another, and it was it was a 261 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: crushing by the Lions. So my question to you, as 262 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: a guy who watches a lot of football, do we 263 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: think that is more about how excellent the Lions are 264 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 3: or do we think maybe the defense wasn't his guy, 265 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: I'm worried that it's the and this is my bad 266 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: fan psychology, that it's the worst of both worlds. 267 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: The Lions are so. 268 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: Good, which affects us when we have to play them 269 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: and their defense is still excellent. 270 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: That's that's the terrible attitude I'm bringing, right, I. 271 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: Think the Browns defense is excellent. Yeah, I really do. 272 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: What Packer game? I don't did they. 273 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: Blocked excellent very fun Packers at a field goal to win, 274 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: they block it, they turn it the other way, they 275 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: go down, they kick a field goal at the gun, 276 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: they win the game. 277 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: I know, I just wanted to hear it again. I 278 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: think that their defense is the real deal. So I 279 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: think that if we get the right scheme, I think 280 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: that they are beatable. 281 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: They've been they right, They're proven to be beatable. 282 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. 283 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 3: And I wonder that brings me back to my point 284 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: is when you're playing a defense that good and you 285 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: have an O line that is dealing with what it's 286 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: dealing with. 287 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: I think this is one of those games, Like, even 288 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: though the. 289 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: Browns might not have a great record, I think it's 290 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: a pretty unique challenge. Yeah, you know, I saw in 291 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: some publication the Vikings were ranked across the board the 292 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: best coaching staff when you took all the coordinators and 293 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: the head coach into consideration in the league. And I 294 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: think that wasn't necessarily like universal, but a lot of 295 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: people supported that. And then I think on ESPN last 296 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: week they were doing they were having the conversation if 297 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: you were having a coach's draft right now, like who 298 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: would you take first? In Greenee's all in on KOC 299 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be one of those moments. 300 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: It would be such a feather in the cap of 301 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: the team and the coaching So if you can get 302 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: this win dealing with the things you're dealing with from 303 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: an injury standpoint against the thing that they bring in, 304 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: which is a defense that could completely no matter what 305 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: you're capable of on both sides. They can control the 306 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: game if their line is playing really well and our 307 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: line is struggling due to injuries. So if you can, 308 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: to your point, if you somehow scheme up a way 309 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: to be really successful in this game, and then you 310 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: can go home, and you get into bye week, and 311 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: you go in three and two. Now we get to play. 312 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: The fun game is now we play. We got a 313 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: few matchups in a row where nobody thinks we're gonna win. 314 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: You go into that Eagles game, that Ravens game, that 315 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: Lions game. I think a lot of people are gonna 316 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: now you go steal a couple of those. You're right 317 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: back on a really fun path. So I unique challenge. 318 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: But if the coaching staff can pull it off, this 319 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: one would be who. 320 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm gonna throw 321 00:15:59,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: this out there. 322 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: I have airline tickets purchased from Minneapolis to London, Chicago 323 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: to London, Madison, Wisconsin to London. I am willing to 324 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: go in for a play if you need me, No 325 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: contract needed. I'm just willing to give an offensive lineman 326 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: a breather. We're gonna need a rollout package at that 327 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: point because I'm just gonna I'm just gonna turn my 328 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: body and get pummeled. And that's fine, but it's gonna 329 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: it's going to delay them seconds. 330 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: Can I ask you? Because I think what you're pitching, 331 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: I love it. And I've thought about this for you 332 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: for a while now, ever since you joined the show. 333 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: Is this show the path for you to become an 334 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: asset for the team, like you know, like you remember 335 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: in Major League, one of our favorite movies, where they 336 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: send dorn In to get hit by the pitch. 337 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 4: Yes, that's me, that's you. That is exactly me. 338 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: I am the Roger dorn for these Minnesota Vikings. Use 339 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: me however you need to use me. 340 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: And here's where I think I need to use you. 341 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: I need here's the thing. What's the Toby Key song? 342 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: YEA ain't as. 343 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: Good as you once was, but you're as good once 344 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: as he ever was. Come on, brother, I say we 345 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: get you on a screen right, because here's the thing. 346 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 3: Even at your advanced age, you got a quick A 347 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 3: to B. Once you get to B, you can't go 348 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: to C. 349 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: A lot of breathing, A lot of breathing at B. 350 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was a really hard route to 351 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: be for you. Yeah, but you got there and everybody went, oh, 352 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: he gets to be quick. Let's see what happens next. 353 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: And then you're like, I'm I'm I'm. 354 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 4: No, thank you. I stay at B. 355 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: So if we run A, and. 356 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm not a coach, I don't know how to draw 357 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: stuff up, but I'm saying, if we run one of 358 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: those screens where that center has to pull out, so 359 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 3: Chad's playing center, center has to pull out, if you 360 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: can get from A to B, and you could just 361 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: sacrifice your body into a Miles Garrett or one of 362 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: these linebackers one play, what happens to you. 363 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't know the. 364 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: Consequences to your legs, your elbows, your nose. I don't know, 365 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: but I think that's a good story to tell. I 366 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: think we'd all be very proud of you. And you think, 367 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 3: get a nice breather. You set up one good play. 368 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 3: Minnesota's Vince Papali, I love it. 369 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: Here is my pitch to the coaches. 370 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: I went to a community college in Fergus Falls, and 371 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: the nose tackle for the team was all conference, and 372 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: one time during a pickup football game after the season, 373 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: I went up against him. I was center, I was 374 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: snapping the ball, no big deal of shotgun formation, and 375 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: he chopped my arm at the elbow and I thought 376 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: my spine had snapped. So I've been in this situation before. 377 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it again for these vikings. You 378 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: have my number, use it. 379 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: Let's see. 380 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: Because you remember, when you're young, neither of us actually 381 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: played football. You played backyard football with your friends. And 382 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: I remember thinking like, man, I'm like cause I think 383 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: I was a little bigger than some of the people 384 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 3: we played with, sizes, a little hard to tackle, and 385 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: you get a little so I kind of had this 386 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: idea like, oh, I can really, I can run, i 387 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: can catch, I'm hard to take down. I'm like one 388 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: of the better guys out here. And then we played 389 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: with this guy Ray, who played high school and junior 390 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: college football. Same thing, and I'm I make a catch 391 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: and I'm coming up the sideline, I might do what 392 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: I normally do, which is I'm not going on a bound. 393 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna try to run through him. 394 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: And I hit him, and I think I have health 395 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: problems to day from that collection. 396 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a different it's a different violence. 397 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: I think he didn't think about it the moment I 398 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: went and fell to the ground. He just it was 399 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: gone from his brain forever. But I think it certainly 400 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: affects me to this day. 401 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh there's no quote. You get tackled like that and 402 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: you go, you know what. Put my feet in stirrups. 403 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: The wind has been knocked out of me. And I 404 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: need about two and a half minutes. 405 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: Let's do game prediction. So let's do let's do score prediction. Okay, 406 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: let's do player prediction, and let's do personal prediction. 407 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: Okay, uh, score prediction. I need you to know lately 408 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: we've been I know, I know. 409 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: I need you to know that I really do think 410 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: this Cleveland defense is the real deal. So I'm going 411 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: Vikings ninety five, Brown seventeen. 412 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 413 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: I now I have a little different opinion than you do. 414 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: I am very worried about the offensive line. Okay, and 415 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: so I think Miles Garrett is so good Schwartz. I 416 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: believe it's still their coordinator. Just he's such a good 417 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: pressure guy and with you know, a lot of backups 418 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 3: that offensive line, so I think it's probably one hundred 419 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: and twenty eight to eleven. 420 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm thinking somewhere in that range they get in a three. 421 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: I forgot about Miles Garrett. Good call what you got 422 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: for a player? This This is going to be crazy, 423 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: But I'm going to go with Max Bro's I'm gonna 424 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: tell you why he's in because we have such a 425 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: big lead. 426 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: So you're you, you think we're going to see some 427 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: Max Brose mercy. 428 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go. I think he's gonna go 429 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: six for eight over seventy yards. 430 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: I love it. I am going to go. I'm going 431 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: to go. 432 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: I think last week was the start to what we're 433 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: going to see this week because Jefferson got a lot 434 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: of targets played really well. I think we're gonna see 435 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: the Addison game. I think we're gonna see I don't 436 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: know if we I'm going two touchdowns from Addison from 437 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: a from a personal prediction standpoint, I think when we 438 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: come back together to do this show again because it's 439 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: bye week and then we have the Eagles, which the 440 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: great Blake Wexler, who's been on the show a ton 441 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: of times. He'll be filling in for you because we 442 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: like to talk to him about Eagles. So you're gonna 443 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: get a couple of weeks off. I believe that, regardless 444 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: of how this game turns out, when we come back 445 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: together for the next time for that show, I think 446 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: people are gonna the energy and positivity and vibe between 447 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: us that they felt week one that has slowly been 448 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: beaten out of you by week four. 449 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. You know. 450 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: I love this Addison call, and I think you're right. 451 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Two touchdowns that sound he's going to put the jets on. 452 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: There's no question. 453 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: Two touchdowns that's going to do it for us. Everybody 454 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 3: on the show. Thank you all for listening. We really 455 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: appreciate it. Do us a favor. If you want to 456 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: hear the full conversation, head over to your favorite podcast 457 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: app download the Vikings Tailgate, leave a review and a rating, 458 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: and as always, thank you to ticket Master, the official 459 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: ticket sponsor of the Minnesota Vikings. 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