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Speaker 2: All right, there we go headlines on a phenomenal day.

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Speaker 1: Choose chill baby.

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Speaker 2: You use all the clue purpose by movie. Anybody, come on,

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Speaker 2: hit me, hit me with it. Come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: say it. Come on, there you go. You're doubting yourself

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Speaker 2: What we got cracking tonight against Colorado? Boys are one

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Speaker 2: seven to one their last nine games. That's not good.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if you're looking to join the

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Speaker 2: Nashville Predators, all you have to be is a multi

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 4: You what Jordan Majeva did today USC, he sat down

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen a current player, yes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so where we're living now, Pal, you better

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Speaker 2: Dicky DeVante Adams not practicing today with a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 2: first time ever in program history, three to two, the

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Speaker 2: Big play here third and six at the twenty four Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: Charley Day.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years few tones.

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Speaker 4: Day, the launch Becker's release against Jermaine Matthews.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to say that was Gus Johnson from the

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Speaker 1: He was there, man, He was there for the biggest

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Speaker 3: Know you hang around long enough, can all your dreams come?

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine a Big Ten title and

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Speaker 1: Who's your hysteria?

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Speaker 1: Just living the dream? No, not at all, I did.

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Speaker 1: But how does this Mike? Honestly?

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Speaker 2: Because look, man, I know you grew up a big

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it seems a little more than coincidental

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Speaker 3: he said, I'm just I'm not going to be satisfied

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Speaker 2: Well, Gus, before you go, we talked about the absurdity

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Speaker 2: So now you've got to go through Alabama or Oklahoma,

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Speaker 3: Man it again is you know, I don't believe I'm

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Speaker 3: I really, I really do. And one are the time

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you, Dick agrees with this. I

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Speaker 2: So hey, listen, enjoy this. This is one of the

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Speaker 1: That's right, baby, that's right, love, and we're.

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Speaker 2: Go get him, man, Hey, have fun with this, enjoy

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Speaker 3: All right, great to talk to both of you, extra

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Speaker 1: All right, the gas man, I mean he mentioned sixty

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Speaker 2: You know what this is like, By the way, this

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Speaker 1: That's what this is. The sixth wetting close tonight.

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Speaker 2: We are thirteen years away from being in the exact

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Speaker 1: Cracking tonight back on the ice.

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Speaker 2: Against the Colorado Avalanche, six thirty pre game seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: face off right here on ninety three three KJRFM. Big

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Speaker 2: thanks to Mike Castao for jumping on the air with

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Speaker 1: Well, we're his little twerps that he used to just

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, trust me, I got stories, all right. I

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Speaker 1: Hey, today maybe the missing piece.

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Speaker 2: Uh Andrew Kisner has been signed, yeah baby, to a

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Speaker 1: Say goodbye? Probably?

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Speaker 1: So are we sure? Are you gonna use Mitch Garver?

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Speaker 2: don't think that the acquisition of Andrew kisne or should

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Speaker 2: keep them from doing anything they want to do at catcher.

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Speaker 1: Right.

439
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 2: If they feel like there's a better option that pops

440
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Speaker 2: up down the road, then they should go do it.

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Speaker 4: I just don't know why you'd want to bring back

442
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Speaker 4: a guy who his goal was to walk. His goal

443
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,919
Speaker 4: wasn't actually to get a base hit. His goal was

444
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Speaker 4: to get himself on base.

445
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Speaker 5: Because getting on base matters, that's.

446
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Speaker 2: Right, Never and moneyball, Yeah, yes, what because he gets

447
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: on base? Because he gets on base. There you go,

448
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: don't make me point at you, Dick.

449
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Speaker 1: The guy had.

450
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Speaker 4: Yeah, now he had one big He had one big

451
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Speaker 4: hit in a playoff game.

452
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Speaker 1: Against Detroit. I was there.

453
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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question. Honestly, I know

454
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Speaker 2: we were going to talk Seahawks here, but this is

455
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Speaker 2: how we roll. Let me ask you a question. Yes,

456
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Speaker 2: if Mitch Garver last season was making a million dollars,

457
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Speaker 2: do you think people could have stomached him a little more?

458
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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

459
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: He was making twelve million bucks last year, and if

460
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Speaker 2: he's making three months, let me tell you that was

461
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 2: the problem, right, because what the hell do we honestly

462
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: expect from a backup catcher?

463
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Speaker 1: Nothing? Well, have you seen Kisner's numbers?

464
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Speaker 4: Can he give you a zero point zero war? Have

465
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: you seen I can give you a zero point zero war?

466
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Speaker 4: It is better than Mitch Garter. Ever, each of the

467
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: last two seasons.

468
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: We're talking about negative point one versus zero point zero.

469
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 2: I mean, what Mitch Garver does for the pitching staff,

470
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Speaker 2: for example, is that worth having him on the roster

471
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Speaker 2: for e milliam bucks? I think, and I get the

472
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Speaker 2: sense that the majority of the Mitch Garver angst is

473
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Speaker 2: because of the fact he was making twelve million dollars

474
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Speaker 2: last year and he was brought in to be like

475
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Speaker 2: the D eight, right, right? It was just not his fault, No,

476
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: that's a that's a roster flaw from Jerry to Poto

477
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 2: and Justin Hollander obviously. So how about we stop asking

478
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: guys to do things they can't do.

479
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Speaker 1: How's that for an idea? Right?

480
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Speaker 2: How about we actually go out this offseason and we

481
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Speaker 2: haven't even talked about Polanco taken off. That happened when

482
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: I was gone last week. Twenty million bucks a year.

483
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: You and I both know there was no shot the

484
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Speaker 2: Mariners were doing that, or should there none any chance

485
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Speaker 2: they were doing that, But now you need a second basement.

486
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, you've got you've got holes, and you've

487
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Speaker 2: got some players in house, like Williamson Cole Young for example,

488
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: that could fill some of these holes. But I don't

489
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Speaker 2: want to have all young guys fill in these holes.

490
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Speaker 2: I'd like to go out and sign some proven options

491
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Speaker 2: over the offseason. But you've got a hole in second,

492
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: you got a hole at third. I think you have

493
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Speaker 2: a hole in right that needs to be addressed, by

494
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 2: the way, and now you have a hole at DH

495
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Speaker 2: that needs to be addressed. So are we going to

496
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Speaker 2: fill all of those holes with the young guys from

497
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Speaker 2: the minor league system? I really hope now that they're

498
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Speaker 2: going to fill two of them with them. Yeah, but

499
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Speaker 2: that's not for Williamson and young No, you can't fight.

500
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Speaker 4: I don't want to fill any more than those two

501
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Speaker 4: with young guys.

502
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Speaker 2: The grades they they they cannot just sit back and

503
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Speaker 2: say we're going to rely on unproven options, not at

504
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Speaker 2: this time in their history, not Andrews with this pitching.

505
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I just don't think that they think they

506
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Speaker 6: have a hole at right field. To be completely honest,

507
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Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think that could be addressed.

508
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Speaker 6: I could even throw in shortstop, sure in that situation.

509
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

510
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Speaker 6: Jp Crawford as a guy, we talk about a guy

511
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Speaker 6: who's literal job like trying to walk. How about a

512
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 6: guy that just for whatever reason, is not good defensively

513
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 6: at the most important position on the field. Defensively in shortstop,

514
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 6: cannot hit, cannot run.

515
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Speaker 5: He brings you no value besides just what he's done.

516
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Speaker 1: In the last time. How much can Williamson help him

517
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Speaker 1: though defensively be.

518
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Speaker 6: A little bit to him, A little bit, I'd say,

519
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 6: But like, that's asking a six hundred oh ps guy

520
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Speaker 6: to come and save a guy who barely can play

521
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Speaker 6: shortstop anymore and already is not great off it.

522
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Speaker 5: It's just too many what if situations.

523
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Speaker 2: I just think, if you're gonna go with Ben Williams

524
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Speaker 2: in a third base, you better damn well go find

525
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Speaker 2: me a couple of bats.

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Speaker 1: Yes for that one. Absolutely, that is.

527
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Speaker 2: Going to be on paper right now, and it could

528
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Speaker 2: change in May or June. I'll get it it easy out.

529
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Speaker 2: That is an easy out right now for your you're

530
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: playing with eight guys in your lineup, if Ben Williamson

531
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Speaker 2: is your starting third basement. Hey, would you like an

532
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 2: update on the poll. I'm not surprised at all, by

533
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Speaker 2: the way, by these results. Well, we threw it out

534
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: there today. If I guaranteed you a Seahawk appearance in

535
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Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game, but.

536
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Speaker 1: They lose, do you take it?

537
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Speaker 2: Thousand votes, seventy four percent say no, I want a

538
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Twenty six percent said yes. That'd be a

539
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: great turnaround from where this franchise was a couple of

540
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Speaker 2: years ago when they fired Pete Carroll. Go dogs on Twitter,

541
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Speaker 2: Hell and O. Especially if we get the number one seed,

542
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Speaker 2: that would be winning one home game and then losing

543
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Speaker 2: a home game the next week. Sea Dog Bob. If

544
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Speaker 2: I said you Dub would make the playoff next year,

545
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Speaker 2: but lose in the first round, do you take it

546
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Speaker 2: the roller Let's cross the bridge you built first. The

547
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: bridge hasn't been crossed in a decade. G Brot on Twitter.

548
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not since the end of Super Bowl forty nine.

549
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: All I can think about is getting back in winning.

550
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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised by this, and I would also

551
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Speaker 2: vote no. I would not a dog that answered the question,

552
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Speaker 2: I would not take that.

553
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Speaker 4: What does it have to what does it have to

554
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Speaker 4: do with the Huskies making the Well, the first round

555
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: of the playoffs is not like the NFC championship game.

556
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: The National semi final is like the NFC championship game.

557
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: The first round of the playoffs would be like a

558
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: wild card again getting in exactly, so.

559
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: It's not even close to the same.

560
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: If the Seahawks were one of the rank and file

561
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Speaker 4: teams that were fighting to get into the playoffs, I

562
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: would totally accept it. Usually I'm the type of guy that, yeah,

563
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Speaker 4: you take double Bogie out of play, just let me

564
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Speaker 4: out a good playoff rates.

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Speaker 1: That's not what the Seahawks team is. True.

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Speaker 4: They are, in my opinion, a top two team in

567
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Speaker 4: the NFL, So why would I accept the loss in

568
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Speaker 4: the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: Let me if I'm with you, what do you be

570
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: for Vegas? Vegas? Vegas?

571
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Speaker 2: Think me that at worst, they're the third best team

572
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. At worst, I mean, you go to

573
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Speaker 2: all the sports books and I'm looking at what is

574
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Speaker 2: his draft Kings. I got the Rams number one, Hawks

575
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Speaker 2: number two, Denver number three, followed by Buffalo Philadelphia.

576
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean the worst you can find

577
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Speaker 1: is the Hawks at number three.

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Speaker 6: So Dick, let me ask you this the biggest thing

579
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Speaker 6: for me, Zicher If you I think the Seahawks are

580
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Speaker 6: one of the two best teams, But how likely do

581
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 6: you think the Seahawks? Like, what's the chance that Seahawks

582
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Speaker 6: could get bounced in the first or second round?

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00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: What happened you? I will answer this that question when

584
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: you answer this question. Yeah, who wins Thursday?

585
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: Uh?

586
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: Like they could lose.

587
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: See that's the point, the point of ask you this

588
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: on That's why I'm asking now, Yes, because it's chicken

589
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Speaker 2: crap to wait until Friday.

590
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if we lose.

591
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Speaker 2: Friday, then right of course, that's why I'm not asking Friday.

592
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Speaker 1: I'm asking right freaking now. Well, I guess that tells you.

593
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: I guess that tells you. I think's gonna win on Thursday.

594
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Speaker 2: Then, but you can't be shocked if they lose, right,

595
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean fifty point two. I guarantee you an NFC

596
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: championship appearance right now, and that game.

597
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Speaker 1: Could be at home. You never know who could be

598
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Speaker 1: at home. I mean, guys, looks I got I got

599
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: news for you.

600
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Speaker 2: At some point in time, the Seahawks are going to

601
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: play a conference title game at home and lose. That

602
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: will eventually happen. They probably should have lost in twenty fourteen.

603
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: They were down nineteen to six. For God's it's gonna happen.

604
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: So I get it for people that say yes, I

605
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: would take it, because I think they're looking at the

606
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: context of where this team was when Mike McDonald took over,

607
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: and what a run by John. What a statement by

608
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: John Schneider that would be it'd be even bigger to

609
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: make a Super Bowl. I get it, But don't you

610
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: think that would be one of John Schneider's greatest accomplishments

611
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: as the general manager of the Seahawks To say goodbye

612
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: to Gino Smith at the exact right time, to say

613
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Speaker 2: goodbye to Pete Carroll at the exact right time to

614
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: hire a thirty five year old coach, go get Sam

615
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Speaker 2: Darnold and free agency, have the draft that they've had,

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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 1: Two years later playing the NFC championship game. Eh, unbelievable, crazy, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: And I look at this NFC, I mean, when when

619
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Speaker 4: have we ever had five, six and seven seeds that

620
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 4: were as good as the Seahawks, Packers and Niners.

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Speaker 1: Probably twenty thirteen and fourteen.

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Speaker 5: And that's when I take the NFC Tampionship Gang.

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Speaker 6: But there's a world where you lose on Thursday and

624
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 6: then go play at Lambeau in the division right right,

625
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: and I would not feel great about that game.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is. I think I know

627
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: what it is about Anders. He's just a big sissy.

628
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: He's just I really am. The Niners in twenty thirteen

629
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: were the five seed at twelve and four, the Saints

630
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: for the sixth seed at eleven and five in two

631
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Speaker 2: thousand and thirte that's pretty.

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Speaker 1: Good safety, but he kind of gave us a decent game.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna break text Amonials coming up next,

635
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: and then Jamie Clark from the National Championship UW men's

636
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: soccer team.

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Speaker 1: How about act at five John Wilner.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna push him to five twenty on ninety three

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Speaker 2: three KJRFM