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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in

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Speaker 1: the Tri State. Great you have you with me this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: getting ready for REDGS baseball and spring training in the

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Speaker 1: Cactus League coming up later on thirteen sixty Getting ready

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Speaker 1: for REDGS Baseball. I guess in about three and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks we're gonna have Red's opening day March twenty

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Speaker 1: sixth or so. But last night I can only say

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Speaker 1: that the state of Union addressed by the President reminded me.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't there in eighteen sixty three in July at

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Speaker 1: the Gettysburg address by Abraham Lincoln, but it had to

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Speaker 1: be a little bit longer, and it was just as

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Speaker 1: profound to me as an American to have such a

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Speaker 1: sense of pride in my nation and discussed for those

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Speaker 1: who wanted to have a different viewpoint about what happened

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Speaker 1: last night, But joner you and I now was Congressman

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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson who was in the hall, and I mentioned

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Speaker 1: you off the air, Congressman that I didn't see you

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Speaker 1: much on camera because you weren't holding up signs, didn't

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Speaker 1: have the F word on your lapel, and you stood

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Speaker 1: up at the right time and sat down at other times.

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Speaker 1: And first of all, give me, from your perspective, the

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Speaker 1: two or three highlights of last night's speech.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was really an honor to join you, and

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Speaker 2: what an amazing experience to be present for that state

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Speaker 2: of the Union in particular, it's an honor to get

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Speaker 2: to do this job. And that was particularly good, I

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Speaker 2: thought by the President of the United States. I mean,

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Speaker 2: and I think one of the best lines he had

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Speaker 2: that summed up really the presidency so far. What a

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Speaker 2: difference a president makes, right, because a lot of what

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Speaker 2: he's doing isn't that that we passed major laws.

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Speaker 1: It's he just followed the law.

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Speaker 2: Like it's already illegal to enter the country illegally legally,

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Speaker 2: so he secured the border. And you know, we didn't

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Speaker 2: have to pass some new law for him to secure

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Speaker 2: the border. He just followed the law and secured the border.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he didn't have to create some new

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Speaker 2: law to remove people in the country illegally. He just

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Speaker 2: followed the law and removed people from the country who

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Speaker 2: are here illegally, just like Obama day, you know, with

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Speaker 2: Tom Hoe, who was the same guy that we'ma awarded,

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Speaker 2: you know for leading Ice before so.

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Speaker 1: And you look at crime.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought one of the real moments that

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Speaker 2: kind of sums up the other part of the speech

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Speaker 2: is he talked about Arena Zarutzka, who was murdered on

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Speaker 2: public transportation in Charlotte, Charlotte, North Carolina by a guy

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Speaker 2: who's you know, more than twelve offenses, you know, but

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Speaker 2: set free with no cash bail. And we see some

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Speaker 2: of those kind of crazy practices going on in Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: and Hamilton County, but you don't see it in you know,

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Speaker 2: one county north or you know a county east. You know,

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Speaker 2: so these kinds of things that follow the law, and

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Speaker 2: for the life of us, we don't see how that's partisan,

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Speaker 2: but yet it is. And you saw it when Democrats

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even stand when he honored Arena Zerutzka's mother and

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Speaker 2: and some angel moms who you know, their children were

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Speaker 2: not stand for that? And you know, he's kind of

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Speaker 2: points to them, He's like, these people are crazy, and

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Speaker 2: I you know, that's the thing. It's like normal verse

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Speaker 2: lot of ways last night.

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Speaker 1: When the US hockey Olympic team came in Jack Hughes

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Speaker 1: and n Connor Hellbuck. I'm not much of a hockey fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what it means to be off sides icing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure what that meant, but

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Speaker 1: I do know that there was such a sense of

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Speaker 1: pride on that morning when most of us got up.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six million Americans watched all or part of the

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Speaker 1: hockey and what happened at the end with Jack Ughes, etc.

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Speaker 1: And they had them come down there at the State

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Speaker 1: Union address. And then I watch MSNBC, so you don't

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Speaker 1: have to. I assume you didn't see this morning's coverage.

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Speaker 1: I watch it because I have to, and I want

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Speaker 1: to get a perspective of the radical left. Did you

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Speaker 1: know the USA Hockey team is a political prop that

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Speaker 1: are young men that don't know what they're doing, and

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Speaker 1: they're being used by the president to promote a right

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Speaker 1: wing agenda. Did you know that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised, you know. And probably the biggest ratio

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Speaker 2: Puffington Post, as Rush Limbo like to refer to them.

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Speaker 2: In the midst of men and women both winning gold medals.

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Speaker 2: They put out a tweet on x this said, you

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Speaker 2: know who's offended and just disgusted by all these flag

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Speaker 2: right after the men and women win gold in the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: you know what's wrong with you? And you know that

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Speaker 2: isn't It's also like not partisan in our slice of America.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a few crazy people that give credence

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Speaker 1: But here in DC, somehow that's partisan.

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Speaker 2: But even for the hockey team, I will say Democrats

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Speaker 2: stood for the hockey team. They stood for that, and

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Speaker 2: they stood for the two medals of honor. And I

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Speaker 2: will say everybody there's probably twenty or thirty Democrats that

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Speaker 2: two medals of honor, one guy one hundred years old,

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Speaker 2: one guy just from the Venezuela mission, an incredible heroic action.

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Speaker 2: And then there were seventy or so that didn't even come.

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Speaker 2: You know, they held their own little counter protest out

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Speaker 2: there with the furries on the mall. So you know,

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Speaker 2: there are some crazy folks, but it's well out of

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Speaker 1: Thankfully. I answer you off there about Congresswoman Rashida Talib

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Speaker 1: and also Maxine Waters, unrelated to Jesse Waters. I think

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Speaker 1: Fox News and you told me off the air that

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Speaker 1: Rashida Talib, who wore the F button, is sitting there

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Speaker 1: worldwide State of the Union address representing America. She's got

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Speaker 1: the F word on her lapel. And also Maxine Waters,

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Speaker 1: who has never had a good day. And I look

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Speaker 1: at those two and you told me off the air

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Speaker 1: Is that? Are they normal?

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Speaker 2: You go at times and you're like, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if they have split personality or not. You know which

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Speaker 2: bag and you see, you know, mad max Maxine Waters

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Speaker 1: Sheated to lead.

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Speaker 2: Can seem pretty toxic, but in other situations you talked

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Speaker 2: to him, they seem like reasonable, like okay, decent neighbors,

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Speaker 2: maybe even just to avoid politics, you know. And it

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Speaker 2: is an interesting place in that way, and there's things

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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of weeks ago, unanimously about a

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Speaker 2: month ago in Financial Services Committee, unanimously out of our committee,

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Speaker 2: the partisan Democrat bills out, and they're both on the

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Speaker 2: Financial Services Committee. And you know, we were able to

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Speaker 2: work together constructively because people do want housing to be

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Speaker 2: more affordable for everyone. But then if you go do

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Speaker 2: the interviews, generally they'll come up with some toxic comment

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Speaker 1: Well, it's unbelievable. And last night was lengthy, almost two

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Speaker 1: hours long. And I said at the end, I asked

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Speaker 1: should be a vote by acclamation that in twenty twenties

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Speaker 1: we call off the presidential election and simply let Trump

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Speaker 1: serve as long as he wants. How popular would that.

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Speaker 2: Be, Well, it'd be very popular with about twenty or

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of the base, but it'd be extremely unpopular

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Speaker 2: with a lot of the rest of the country. And

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Speaker 2: he did have a funny joke He's think it should

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Speaker 2: be his third term right now, because you know, I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of evidence that there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of problems with the twenty twenty election. Obviously, that's

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Speaker 2: still something that resonates with President Trump and a lot

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Speaker 2: of our constituents, you know, and that's where, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you talk policy in the future. One of the things

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Speaker 2: President Trump laid out was past the Save America Act,

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Speaker 2: which is very simple and it's already the law in Ohio.

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Speaker 2: You got to show voter ID. There's only teen states

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Speaker 2: that you don't have to have voter ID in. But

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Speaker 2: all the Democrats united and saying, oh, this is terrible

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Speaker 2: and it's oppressive and it stops women in minorities from voting.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, apparently the women in minorities in

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Speaker 2: Ohio have found a way to vote, you know. And

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Speaker 2: the other one is you've got to be a citizen.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we had a referendum on that in

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Speaker 2: Ohio a couple of years ago, I think twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and you know, my Democrat opponent at the time said, oh,

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Speaker 2: there are no illegal people, so everyone should be able

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Speaker 2: to vote. Even the state Democratic Party wouldn't touch that.

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Speaker 2: They're like, look, this isn't you know, the illegals, of

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Speaker 2: course shouldn't vote in Ohio, but you do have states

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Speaker 2: where they're doing it, and that's why we need to

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Speaker 2: pass it. You have fourteen states in particular that are

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Speaker 2: really bad on these kinds of issues, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it seems like we ought to get Republicans in Democrats

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Speaker 2: from all the other states, and at least the Republicans

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Speaker 2: from those fourteen states to say, yeah, this is common sense,

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Speaker 2: but it breaks on party lines and we can't find

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Speaker 1: It's passed twice in the House congressmen on the issue

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Speaker 1: of illegal voting. Right now, parts of the federal government

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Speaker 1: are shut down. That is, this Secret Service is not

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Speaker 1: being paid, Homeland Security is not being paid large numbers

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Speaker 1: of people. We have a crisis on the Eastern seaboard

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Speaker 1: with the blizzard that hit. I would assume soon there'll

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Speaker 1: be more weather crises of one type or another. TSA

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Speaker 1: is not being paid, and so that's being done so

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Speaker 1: to coerce you to change the rules, to change the

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Speaker 1: What is the status of the Voter Protection Act, the

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Speaker 1: so called Safe Act as we speak this Wednesday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: By the way, two thirty five. Today we go to

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Speaker 1: rets baseball with the Chicago White Sox. But nonetheless, d

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Speaker 1: you see by the end of the week this thing

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Speaker 1: ending in the Democrats voting to reopened the government.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we we found a way to

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Speaker 2: party lines in the House. But the real hang up

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Speaker 2: is the Senate. And you know, Schumer's put out his

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Speaker 2: list of demands. President Trump's negotiat England Schumer and you

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Speaker 2: could see last night he's like, look amount of patience

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Speaker 2: to you guys. You're just you know, pushing for things

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Speaker 2: that aren't going to happen. And we already funded ICE,

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Speaker 2: so they're doing it over defund ice. Ice is already funded.

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Speaker 2: We funded that with a big, beautiful bill, so there's

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Speaker 2: no change there. And the things that they want to

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Speaker 2: do with ICE are you know, essentially to get them

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Speaker 2: to stop enforcing the law or you know, so there

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Speaker 2: are some some reform that people could agree to and say, okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: we can be you know, you know clear cut about

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Speaker 2: how ICE works and everything were professionalized, but the same

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Speaker 2: they want to get rid of ICE. Well, they used

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Speaker 2: ICE as travel agents back when Joe Biden was president.

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Speaker 2: They had tents set up at the border and the

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Speaker 2: same guys that work at ICE today were being deployed

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Speaker 2: temporary duty to go down to the border and basically

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Speaker 1: Right, Democrats don't want them. I don't want that. I

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Speaker 2: No, and that's where you're like, we shouldn't have to

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Speaker 2: They're cracking down on truck drivers who are illegals for

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Speaker 2: The guy is a great just a great person and

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Speaker 2: But uh, he's cracking down on the shell companies that

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Speaker 1: But by the way, it is common for that to

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Speaker 1: occur the radical left, the New Democratic Party, and that's

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Speaker 1: not the Old Democratic Party. In nineteen eighty, for example,

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Speaker 1: in Lake Placid to New York, when the hockey team

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Speaker 1: then beat the USSR. In the locker room with the

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Speaker 1: players was Walter Mondale. At that point there was a

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, a wall phone they used to

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Speaker 1: exist water. Mondale puts on Jimmy Carter, the President, to

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Speaker 1: speak to the US Olympic team in nineteen eighty and

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Speaker 1: that was. I was certainly around at that point out

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Speaker 1: on the radio, and it was just a high moment

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Speaker 1: to celebrate being an American. You know, sports ought to

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Speaker 1: be uniting us, not dividing us. I think when the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks won the NFL title, not too many people felt

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Speaker 1: that was a kind of a coming together moment. In basketball,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Oklahoma City Thunder winning the NBA title,

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Speaker 1: that was nice, but it wasn't uniting. And the college

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Speaker 1: football when in the end of the Hoosiers won the

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Speaker 1: national title, what an incredible story. That didn't like bring together.

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Speaker 1: If you weren't a high state fan, that wasn't a

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Speaker 1: big deal. And in college baseball and LSU one that

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Speaker 1: was interesting. But there's something about the Olympics. When you

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Speaker 1: wear the colors of red, white and blue of the

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Speaker 1: United States of America, you don't represent yourself, you represent

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Speaker 1: the country. Then you succeed famously. It's a coming together moment.

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Speaker 1: But not if you're a new left type democrat I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. I'm not talking about the Charlie Lukens of

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Speaker 1: this world, and the John Cranleys of this world, and

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Speaker 1: the Anthony Celebrezes of this world. The verned rif's of

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Speaker 1: this world. I'm not talking about the Democratic Party of old.

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Speaker 1: It's a new Democratic party, the Democratic Socialists, and they're

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Speaker 1: not happy at all. I watched the MSNBC this morning

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to, and they went after the

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Speaker 1: US hockey Olympic team for being used by Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: to promote a right wing agenda. Nobody would ever accuse

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Speaker 1: Obama of the same behavior. When he was in the

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Speaker 1: locker room in twenty twelve when the American basketball team

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Speaker 1: won the gold medal, I thought, great, that's wonderful. The

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Speaker 1: president should be there. But today everything is completely political.

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Speaker 1: And with those who watched the State of Union address,

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Speaker 1: as I did assiduously, sixty four percent enjoyed it greatly.

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Speaker 1: The other thirty five percent or new left radical democratic socialist.

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Speaker 1: Another high point to me was the one hundred year

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Speaker 1: old aviator US Air Force Royce Williams, who flew in

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Speaker 1: World War Two, who flew in Korea and also flew

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Speaker 1: in Vietnam, and he suffered injuries, says his plane was

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Speaker 1: shot two hundred and sixty three bullet holes in it.

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Speaker 1: He's living an exemplary life. Got the Medal of Honor

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Speaker 1: and then Officer Eric Slover slo VR. He was the

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Speaker 1: Shanook helicopter pilot who ferried some twenty members of special

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Speaker 1: Forces to the top of Maduro's compound there in Caracas,

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Speaker 1: and he was mortally wounded. He was shot. His blood

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Speaker 1: was running down the Shanook helicopter. He would not give up.

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Speaker 1: He had a mission to do and he did it.

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Speaker 1: And he shows up in the House chamber for the

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Speaker 1: State Union addressed with two canes and his wife in

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Speaker 1: one arm. And then you have a general put the

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Speaker 1: medal of honor around his neck. Then you had Sergeant

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Speaker 1: Andrew wolf He was the There was two shot in

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Speaker 1: the back of the head by a radical illegal from

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan just a day before Thanksgiving. And you might know

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Speaker 1: that Sarah Bestrom, police police officer slash specialist National Guard

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Speaker 1: from West Virginia. Sarah Bestrom was murdered and then Sergeant

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Speaker 1: Andrew Wolfe survived. You wasn't supposed to make it. You

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Speaker 1: and I were together at that point thinking there's no

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Speaker 1: way it's not going to be two instead of one.

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Speaker 1: He's fought back like a warrior poet for the last

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Speaker 1: five or six months, and he was in the chamber

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Speaker 1: then they also had seven year old Delilah Coleman. Was there,

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Speaker 1: a little girl who was severely injured in a car

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Speaker 1: wreck because an the legal alien truck driver, of which

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Speaker 1: there are thousands on the road as I speak right now.

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Speaker 1: If you're on I seventy one, seventy five, two seventy five,

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Speaker 1: we're I seventy. There are thousands of illegal truck drivers,

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Speaker 1: generally from Eastern Europe, that are given licenses from blue cities,

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Speaker 1: blue states to drive trucks when they can't read it

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Speaker 1: the English and they're not competent. And then what happens

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Speaker 1: if you're caught, You bankrupt that LLC, quickly have another

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Speaker 1: LLC and just keep on going. And she was there

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Speaker 1: to indicate the results of the policies of the new

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Speaker 1: Left Democratic Socialist Party, the illegal truck drivers and more.

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Speaker 1: I have to expect that Bad Bunny would be delivering

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Speaker 1: the response instead of Governor Spansburger afterwards. To me, it

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Speaker 1: was simply dramatic, simply great. And one of the highlights

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Speaker 1: to me also was the de transitioning lawsuits that have

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Speaker 1: been filed. And this was only about two or three minutes,

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Speaker 1: but it's happening right now in Greater Cincinnati, Northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: He had Sage Blair and her parents stand up. She

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Speaker 1: was a teenager who in twenty twenty three her parents

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Speaker 1: final lawsuit against the Appamatox County High School staff socially

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Speaker 1: transitioning her without her parent knowledge. She was on social

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Speaker 1: media for a long time, and that this point she

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Speaker 1: was twelve years old, and she became convinced because of

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Speaker 1: school counselors. Though her body parts indicated she was a female,

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Speaker 1: she thought she was a male, and so, according to

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Speaker 1: the lawsuit, Blair began identifying as a male at school.

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Speaker 1: She would leave the house dressed as a girl, and

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Speaker 1: then get to school, go in the bathroom, and come

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Speaker 1: out dressed as a boy. The staff started using male

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Speaker 1: pronouns to describe her, and she was allowed to use

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Speaker 1: the male facilities without informing her parents. And of course

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Speaker 1: she was a biological female. And the lawsuit from last

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Speaker 1: night alleges, and I potted up on my computer to

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Speaker 1: read it that Blair ran away from home. She had

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Speaker 1: severe mental difficulties. When she ran away from home, she

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Speaker 1: fell into the grasp of sex traffickers all here illegally,

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Speaker 1: I might add, And she was kidnapped and raped and

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Speaker 1: sold in several states without her parents' knowledge or consent

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Speaker 1: to the transitioning, and they went through a living hell

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Speaker 1: to try to find her. And Trump said that Blair

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Speaker 1: was fourteen when school officials sought to socially transition her

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Speaker 1: to a new gender, treating her as a boy and

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Speaker 1: holding it from her parents. Psychologists testified that because she

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Speaker 1: was being trafficked as a teenage girl with female body parts,

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Speaker 1: that she wanted to identify as a boy to stop

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Speaker 1: the rape. Now is that something that society should stand against.

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Speaker 1: And there was a judge, a federal judge, a liberal

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Speaker 1: federal judge, who originally said that's okay, it's her right

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Speaker 1: at the age of thirteen or fourteen to decide which

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Speaker 1: gender she wants to be. I might add she was

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Speaker 1: having severe mental difficulties. If someone is schizophrenic and they

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Speaker 1: heard voices, the last thing to do is to tell

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Speaker 1: that schizophrenic you know you're right, I hear the voices too.

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Speaker 1: Or if some person is blaeming and they have some

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Speaker 1: mental difficulties, the last thing to do is thinking, you

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Speaker 1: know what, you shouldn't eat, You should herge because after all,

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Speaker 1: you look a little heavy to me. We never have

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Speaker 1: a mental illness, well, we feed into what the person's

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Speaker 1: claiming to be their mental illness and saying, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you're right. And so when someone claims to be a

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Speaker 1: different biological gender than they are, we should not say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you're right. We wouldn't tell uschizophrenic, who's

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Speaker 1: hearing voices you know what. I'm hearing them too, I

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Speaker 1: hear the voices. You're right. And if someone's having mental

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Speaker 1: disorders occasioned by God knows what in their life and

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Speaker 1: they identify as something they truly are not, that is

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Speaker 1: a problem that needs mental and psychiatric services. And in

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Speaker 1: her case, it took a couple of years to get

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Speaker 1: her out of the clutches of the sex trafficking network

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Speaker 1: in which she found herself and when she ran away

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Speaker 1: from home later became a victim of sex trafficking. She

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Speaker 1: then wanted to identify before and after as a male

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Speaker 1: to stop the rape of her, and the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 1: the new Democratic Socialist Party, not the old Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: of Charlie Luken and John Cranley now say that's her

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Speaker 1: right at the age of twelve, thirteen or fourteen to

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Speaker 1: identify and get medical treatment that is not appropriate and

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Speaker 1: which feeds into a mental illness. We never tell someone

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Speaker 1: who is believe me that you look heavy to me.

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Speaker 1: We don't do that. You say you need some help,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to get you help. You never tell

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Speaker 1: somebody hearing voices. You know what, I hear them too.

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Speaker 1: You don't tell somebody who's being transitioned when they're twelve, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: fourteen years old. Yep, Blair, in fact, you're a male,

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Speaker 1: but you're in a female body. We have to have

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Speaker 1: mutilation to get you in line with what you truly feel.

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00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: It's a mental illness should be treated as such. So

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Speaker 1: I thought that was particularly profound. And the girl now

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Speaker 1: is about sixteen years old. She's back with her mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. She's in treatment, and thank god, she went

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Speaker 1: through their hormonal treatment and therapies through a school counselor

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Speaker 1: and a convenient doctor. But once it once she ran

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Speaker 1: away from home and she was in transitioned at that

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Speaker 1: point because she we had the right Bardi parts body

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Speaker 1: parts for her pimp to sell her correctly. And it

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Speaker 1: is so disgusting. What is happening to thousands of kids

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Speaker 1: in the tri State who have mental difficulties, which all

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Speaker 1: of us have at one point or another. You've had them,

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Speaker 1: I've had them. I have difficulties in my life quite

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Speaker 1: often thinking I got the blues, I'm not feeling quite right,

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Speaker 1: I've accomplished nothing in my life. I get down on myself,

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Speaker 1: and I have my loving wife to tell me that's

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Speaker 1: not the case. She should not say if I'm having

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Speaker 1: some profound difficulties with my place in life, telling me

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Speaker 1: I'm correct and having those feelings, you get help and

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Speaker 1: the help is available. And so last night, whether it

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Speaker 1: was Jack Hughes or Connor Helbeck or Royce Williams, or

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Speaker 1: or Officer Eric Slover or Sergeant to Andrew Wolfe, also

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Speaker 1: the mom and dad of slain National Guardsman Sarah Bextrom,

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Speaker 1: was there murdered a course by an illegal alien from Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: Acts as if it's okay, it's normal. No, it's not normal.

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Speaker 1: And so the policies that Donald Trump is now enforcing

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Speaker 1: are the same laws and policies enforced by Barack Hussain

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Speaker 1: Obama when over five point two million were thrown out

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Speaker 1: of the country. And for some reason, the Modern Democratic

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Speaker 1: Socialist Party is now believing that somehow the path to

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Speaker 1: great success politically is to convince you that their policies

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Speaker 1: are successful. And if they are, look at what's happening

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Speaker 1: right now in major cities in this country. Look what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Cincinnati. But Brian Combs just had it. Two

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Speaker 1: more people were shot and killed at a playground and

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati the bloods running in the streets,

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Speaker 1: and what city Council concerns herself with is a bunch

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Speaker 1: of Bovine's catology instead of dealing with public safety. So

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Speaker 1: let's continue with more, and once again, after one o'clock today,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have Adam Bird to talk about the

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Speaker 1: representative talk about the state of Union address and what

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Speaker 1: is happening to transitioning children through the public school system

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Speaker 1: into a different gender instead of getting them the help

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Speaker 1: they need, and they need help. And also after two

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Speaker 1: thirty five today will be Red's Baseball Alive on the

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Speaker 1: Big One, the White Sox and the Reds teeing it up.

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Speaker 1: And also after two o'clock today I have an expert

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Speaker 1: on Larry Bird, Keith O'Brien getting ready for March Madison

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Speaker 1: more just a little preview of that. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird, the great basketball player, recruited by Robert Montgomery

639
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Knight to go play for Indiana. He doesn't fit in,

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00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: doesn't look quite right. He's not very quick, and he

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00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: can't jump, and he's ugly. And he's at Indiana with

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Speaker 1: Quinn Buckner and Scott May and all the rest in

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Speaker 1: the general He's in pickup games and they don't throw

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Speaker 1: him the ball. He's not part of the team. He

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Speaker 1: quits school, hitchhikes from Bloomington to french Lick, where he

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Speaker 1: takes the job as a garbage man picking up garbage.

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Speaker 1: And French Lick is an eighteen and a half year

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Speaker 1: old boy and his father kills himself, commits suicide. You

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Speaker 1: talk about someone at the bottom. Four years later, Larry

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Speaker 1: Bird is playing for the national title against Magic Johnson's

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Speaker 1: Michigan State team. By the way, Michigan State beat at

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Speaker 1: that point undefeated Indiana State the Sycamores. But then he

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Speaker 1: was drafted by the Boston Celtics and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: So if you're down on the dumps, if things aren't

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Speaker 1: going right, think about Larry Bird, eighteen and a half

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Speaker 1: years old as a garbage man picking up garbage. And

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Speaker 1: French lick. Four years later he's playing for the national title.

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Speaker 1: Six or seven years later, he's a Celtic. They win

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Speaker 1: the three national championships NBA, the Larry of Brian Trophy,

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Speaker 1: he wins three or four MVPs, and he's wine, dying

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Speaker 1: and pocket lined. No matter how bad things are in

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Speaker 1: your life, guess what they can and should get better

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Speaker 1: when you act properly. Well, let's continue with more after

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Speaker 1: one o'clock Today will be Adam Bird and Moore at

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Speaker 1: Show of the Reds and the White Sox playing at

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Speaker 1: two thirty five Today, Bill Cunningham the Great American live

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Speaker 1: on News Radio seven hundred WLW Cunningham the Great American,

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Speaker 1: and once again we'll pick up the pieces of the

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Speaker 1: State of Union address from last night. One of the

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Speaker 1: most remarkable things I saw, I saw many remarkable things,

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Speaker 1: was the USA hockey team, and then I saw the

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Speaker 1: military heroes being honored and the seven year old Delilah

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Speaker 1: Coleman who was severely injured by the legal truck driver.

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Speaker 1: And I think bad Bunny may have given the democratic

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Speaker 1: response Bad Bunny. I'm not sure who that woman was,

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Speaker 1: but bad Bunny, I guess was unavailable also transgender rights.

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Speaker 1: That the President said, you know what transgender rights, parents

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Speaker 1: should have a say and whether or not there a

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Speaker 1: boy becomes a girl with vice versa. Democrats didn't like

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Speaker 1: that at all. And when the President said, do you

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Speaker 1: support Americans or legal aliens? I think one Democrat stood

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Speaker 1: out of about one hundred and eighty. Of course they

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Speaker 1: were about ninety that didn't show up at all, and

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Speaker 1: so they sat on their hands. Jodan you nine now

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Speaker 1: is representative Adam Byrd and Adam Bird. Welcome again to

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Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, are you

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Speaker 1: related to Larry Bird? I have a guest on coming

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Speaker 1: up to talk about Larry Bird. Are you related to

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird? Adam Bird?

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Speaker 4: You know, Larry Bird is one of the greatest players

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Speaker 4: in NBA history, and I would like to be related,

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Speaker 4: And I say, I am, but I have no proof of.

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Speaker 1: It, but you like to be because Larry Bird was

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Speaker 1: pretty good on the basketball court. Now let's go to

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Speaker 1: the state of Union address. What were the A couple

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Speaker 1: of things last night from a political perspective, you found

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Speaker 1: very attractive to what the President said, and I compared

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Speaker 1: it maybe to the second Gettysburg addressed that might be

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Speaker 1: an overstatement a little bit. I stood up several times

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Speaker 1: and applauded by myself. I thought it was wonderful. It

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Speaker 1: was great. Gettysburg address. I have a dream maybe the

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Speaker 1: second inaugural speech of George Washington. Maybe the address to

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Speaker 1: the nation by Eisenhower nineteen sixty as he left the presidency.

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Speaker 1: Give me the two or three things that you found

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Speaker 1: quite impressive.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, first of all, Republicans got a workout

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Speaker 4: last night, didn't they getting up and down at all

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Speaker 4: of the positive things. They burned a lot of calories last night, Willie.

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Speaker 4: But the two things that really stuck out to me

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Speaker 4: was the fact that Democrats could not stand up and

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Speaker 4: recognize that the first duty of government is to protect

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Speaker 4: American citizens. Did you see that they refuse to stand

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Speaker 4: for that, Willie. That is unbelievable. Who are these people

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Speaker 4: that claim to want to represent our nation and govern

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Speaker 4: us when you can't admit that the first duties to

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Speaker 4: protect Americans. The second thing was honoring the hockey team, Willie.

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Speaker 4: That was an unbelievable patriotic moment, and Democrats refused to

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Speaker 4: stand for that too.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you're against the USA hockey team, and I

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Speaker 1: point out to make this thing less political. Now, maybe

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Speaker 1: you don't recall this. I know Tony Bender does, he's

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Speaker 1: an old guy. But in nineteen eighty in Lake Placid,

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Speaker 1: New York, when the American hockey team, which were college kids,

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Speaker 1: beat up on the USSR, in the locker room after

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Speaker 1: the game, there was Walter Mondale, the sitting vice president

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Speaker 1: and other cabinet officials with Jimmy Carter celebrate with the team.

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Speaker 1: I know Cash Patel has caught a liven crap because

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Speaker 1: he went in there. And he's a hockey player. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Cash Patel, FBI director, has amateur hockey in

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Speaker 1: his blood and he still plays on a hockey team

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Speaker 1: in Washington when he has time. And he caught serious

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Speaker 1: flock for celebrating with the Americans. Jack Hughes, etc. And

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Speaker 1: also Connor Helbuck who got the metal Freedom last night.

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Speaker 1: And in nineteen eighty, under similar circumstances, Water Mondale was

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Speaker 1: in the locker room and he went to the wall.

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Speaker 1: He might recall in those days there were wall phones

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Speaker 1: and President Jimmy Carter spoke with the hockey team in

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Speaker 1: the locker room after they beat the Soviets, and there

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Speaker 1: have been numerous other examples, like Obama going into the

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Speaker 1: locker room of a victorious NBA champion and President Obama

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Speaker 1: went into the locker room of the Olympics when he

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Speaker 1: was the president in twenty twelve to celebrate with Magic

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Speaker 1: Johnson and others. And it's part of the American tradition

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Speaker 1: to embrace winning and to embrace this and so to

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Speaker 1: go after the president. And I watched ms NOW this morning,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to MSNBC, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I did it on your behalf. And I watched their

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Speaker 1: commentators talking about the USA hockey team, that Jack Hughes

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Speaker 1: and all the other guys, and that they were political props.

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Speaker 1: Do these young men know they're being used by the

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Speaker 1: president to advance a right wing and gender band for

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Speaker 1: this country? And so that who's politicizing the hockey team?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the left is and ms NOW is. And by

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Speaker 4: the way, Cash Fottel was invited into the locker room,

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Speaker 4: what do you want him to do? Say? Know, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you're an American, if you're a red blooded American

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Speaker 4: and you're a patriot and you love our country and

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Speaker 4: you love your sports, how can you say no to that?

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Speaker 4: The FBI director or any member of government that was

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Speaker 4: afforded that opportunity would go in and celebrate the team

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Speaker 4: if they were asked to do that. And oh, by

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Speaker 4: the way, the fact that he was in the locker

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Speaker 4: room allowed the President of the United States to call

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Speaker 4: and talk to the team right away. So that was

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Speaker 4: an unbelievable patriotic moment for our country. And if you

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Speaker 4: can't see that, we've got deep problems of political divide

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Speaker 4: in our country.

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Speaker 1: One other issue arose, which was the girl. She was transitioning,

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Speaker 1: not because her parents wanted it, but because the school.

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Speaker 1: Something like this is an incredible number. Twenty six percent

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Speaker 1: of teenage girls identify as something other than heterosexual twenty

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Speaker 1: six percent, and the great majority consider themselves to be fluid,

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Speaker 1: but something the range of seven percent of teenage boys

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Speaker 1: and girls consider themselves to be transgender. That is, biology

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Speaker 1: doesn't exist, reality doesn't exist. And the worst part of

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Speaker 1: this is that in many parts of our nation, blue cities,

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Speaker 1: blue states, blue school districts. Guess what the parents are

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Speaker 1: not told if their girl wants to become a boy

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Speaker 1: or vice versa. And in this case, she began the

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Speaker 1: process of transitioning from being a girl to becoming a

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Speaker 1: boy without the knowledge, of course, to parents at home

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Speaker 1: notice some change in behavior. And so she was encapsulated

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Speaker 1: in some legal proceeding in which a liberal federal judge

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Speaker 1: took away temporary parental rights a mom and dad so

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Speaker 1: the transition could continue. Somehow, she got out of that world,

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Speaker 1: got back to her family, and now she's a girl,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't go through the mutilation process to change

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Speaker 1: the sexual parts to make them different. Is there something

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Speaker 1: in Ohio that would keep a parent from knowing what's

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Speaker 1: happening to their transitioning child.

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Speaker 4: If that's the case, there's a couple of things. Wellie,

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you asked that question. So, first of all,

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Speaker 4: Ohio one of the first states in the Union to

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Speaker 4: ban transgender mutilation surgery. Now we've got to make sure

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Speaker 4: that it's not happening, and we've got to make sure

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Speaker 4: that it's being enforced adequately by the Attorney General's office

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Speaker 4: and researching and all of that kind of thing. But

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Speaker 4: we are one of the first states to protect our

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Speaker 4: young girl from this predatory kind of behavior. And then

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Speaker 4: also last, I think it was two years ago, maybe

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Speaker 4: one year ago, we passed a parent's bill of rights

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Speaker 4: that said that as a school, you cannot talk to

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Speaker 4: my child about transgender issues without telling me. You have

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Speaker 4: to inform me of these kinds of conversations that are

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Speaker 4: occurring with my child at school, and you can't do

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Speaker 4: that without my knowledge. So that was passed, and again, Willie,

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Speaker 4: we're forced to make sure that these kinds of things

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Speaker 4: are being properly enforced across the Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Well, so let's on a related matter about parnal rights

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Speaker 1: Princeton High School. There have been others Walding Hills High

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Speaker 1: School and others in Ohio have scheduled walkouts of their

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Speaker 1: student body. A couple parents got a hold of me

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Speaker 1: from the Princeton school district. I'm not sure this happened

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Speaker 1: in New Richmond, the home of the Lions, but nonetheless

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Speaker 1: in Princeton, the students at two o'clock, while class was

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Speaker 1: going on in mass left Princeton High School, walked across

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Speaker 1: the street to the football stadium and I guess protested

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Speaker 1: ice on the field and the students involved did not

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Speaker 1: get parental permission. In fact that the parents know nothing

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Speaker 1: about it. Several parents have skilled the Prince called the

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Speaker 1: Princeton School Board, Princeton High School, and then and they

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Speaker 1: got no return call. Well, what does a parent do

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Speaker 1: if your child is used as a political prop by

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Speaker 1: the radical left during school hours to protest law enforcement?

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Speaker 1: What can lawmakers do about that one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a that's a really important issue, Willie,

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad you bring it up, because you know,

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Speaker 4: these schools are being funded by the taxpayer. Your property taxes,

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Speaker 4: your federal income taxes are coming back, and then of

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Speaker 4: course your state taxes are coming back to that school.

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Speaker 4: And so to for the public to subsidize a school

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Speaker 4: that is allowing this to happen, that that is very concerning,

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Speaker 4: and they shouldn't be allowing that to happen. There should

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Speaker 4: be repercussions to those students who walk out of school,

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Speaker 4: you know, there should be something. You shouldn't just allow

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Speaker 4: it to happen. I am suspiciously that there might be

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Speaker 4: actually teachers in that school that are jetting up the

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Speaker 4: all of this and talking kids into doing it and

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Speaker 4: promising that they won't be in trouble. I'd be really interested, Willie,

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Speaker 4: if your listeners think that schools that permit this kind

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Speaker 4: of behavior should have some kind of defunding mechanism to them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the pocketbook issue. And I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: the teachers and the teachers' unions would be in favor

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Speaker 1: of undermining law enforcement because the leader of the teachers'

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Speaker 1: unions nationally has the same approach. She encourages this under

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Speaker 1: the banner of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom

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Speaker 1: of assembly, that doesn't apply in this situation at all.

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Speaker 1: You don't have the freedom of speech when you work

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Speaker 1: for an employer. Don't have freedom of speech at work.

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Speaker 1: You don't have freedom of assembly when you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be in school paid for by the taxpayer to be educated.

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Speaker 1: You don't have the right at that point to exercise

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Speaker 1: those rights. There's ways of doing that if you have

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Speaker 1: those viewpoints. It can be downe elsewhere, but not during

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Speaker 1: class hours under the auspices of Princeton High School. And

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Speaker 1: I tend to think if there was a vote taken

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Speaker 1: by the teachers at Walton Hills or Princeton, they would

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Speaker 1: probably vote in favor of this activity. In fact, they

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Speaker 1: encourage it because if the if the teachers are against

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Speaker 1: it and the principles against it, I would think it

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Speaker 1: would not happen, So there was an acquiescence or a

862
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: passive approval of what these students are doing. And that's

863
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: only the tip of the iceberg, and there will be

864
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: other issues that will arise. Here we are in February,

865
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: in March, April, and May, there'll be other issues. And

866
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: I would tend to think that if these children are

867
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: used as political props for a left wing agenda during

868
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: the school day, that's different than going somewhere at noon

869
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: on a Saturday in a public square and so called

870
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: protesting or making a fool of yourself. You can do that,

871
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: but you can't do it during school hours. Now. Thirdly,

872
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: before I let you go, I heard you last week

873
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: with Rock and the other boys and Eddie talking about Nil.

874
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Give you an example. Maller High School just lost its

875
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: star quarterback. He did a great job as a guest

876
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: on My show once or twice. And now there's a

877
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: kid contacting I'm told indirectly Maller High School to want

878
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: to be paid ten thousand dollars to transfer from some

879
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: other high school to come play quarterback from all our

880
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: high school and get ten thousand dollars to play quarterback

881
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: in Mauler High School. Is that legal.

882
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: This is exactly why I have a bill to prohibit

883
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: nil to seven through twelve students here in Ohio because

884
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: the language that schools were asked to approve is so broad,

885
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: so undefined, it lacks clarity on investigations. And this is

886
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: why I introduce a bill, and we have hearings on

887
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: this bill, and I'm still pushing on this bill, and

888
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: I think it has a good chance. It is because

889
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: I think it's extremely difficult to enforce and nil compensation

890
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: on your notoriety is almost indistinguishable from compensation due to

891
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: your roster position. So when you cat a, when the

892
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: OHSAA guidelines and byballs don't really talk about transfer inducement,

893
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: that's a big issue. And I'm thankful that you told

894
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: me about this, Welly, because this has got to be

895
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: added to the reasons to pass my bill. And I'm

896
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: still working on this, and I believe that we have

897
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: a good chance of stopping this because this is going

898
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 4: to be extremely harmful to sports, to the locker room,

899
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: to the reason that we even create sports, because they're

900
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: an extension of the classroom. We're trying to teach character

901
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: and leadership and discipline and communication skills and fitness, and

902
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: instead we're using these taxpayer paid facilities in order to

903
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: allow kids to have paid for their play, and that

904
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: cannot happen in Ohio, Willy.

905
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: And twenty twenty two, the principals got together and then

906
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: a vote of more than two to one said no

907
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: to nil for high school and I guess grade school kids.

908
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: And now in twenty twenty six, or maybe if it

909
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: was in the twenty twenty five, the same group of

910
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: principals and superintendents and public schools, some five hundred and

911
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: sixty strong, voted two to one yes. What happened between

912
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty six.

913
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of things that happened. Number one

914
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: is when you look at those numbers, Willie, I think

915
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 4: you have to also add in the two hundred some

916
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: schools who abstained from the vote. Okay, so the vote,

917
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: I think all those obstensions have to be counted as knows,

918
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: which means it's actually like a fifty five percent of

919
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: the schools in favor of forty five percent of those no.

920
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: And I have had conversations, Willy, with superintendents, and I

921
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 4: believe that many of those people who voting guests didn't

922
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 4: really want to. They held their nose while doing it,

923
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 4: and they did it because OHSAA was rushing this upon

924
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 4: its member schools in order to respond to one single

925
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: judge in Franklin County who issued a temporary injunction against

926
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: the OHSAA. And this is why this is being pushed.

927
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: And don't will I've said this before. I don't think

928
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: one single judge should be determining the policy for the

929
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: state of Ohio. I think that's our role as a

930
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 4: state legislature. And don't forget, Willie that we've all had

931
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: to step in before with OHSSEA. We did it on

932
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: the issue of allowing boys to play in girls sportsa

933
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: HSAA wanted to continue to allow that, the state legislature

934
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: said no to that, and then we also forced HSAA

935
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 4: to accept cash payment when you enter one of the games.

936
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: And so there's been times before where we've had to

937
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 4: step in and say no. And I'm advocating among my

938
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: colleagues that we need to do it again.

939
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: Well let's see what happens. I think an eighteen year

940
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: old man it's different than a fourteen year old boy

941
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: who wants to earn a bunch of money. But on

942
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: the other hand, the facilities. If somebody would transfer to

943
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Molor High School who's eighteen years old to play quarterback

944
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: for Muller High School and some rich alumnus wants to

945
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: pay ten thousand dollars for that to happen, that opens

946
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: a Pandora's box of everyone else getting paid one thousand,

947
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, fifteen hundred dollars, two thousand dollars to

948
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: play high school sports. This thing is completely out of control.

949
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. In fact, Mick Cronin, my good friend, the

950
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: coach of UCLA, we texted back and forth quite often.

951
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: He talked about the President getting involved to somehow stop

952
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: the illegal we calls illegal transfers kids and that you

953
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: can't coach kids anymore if they don't like what you're

954
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: saying to them at UCLA or uc or Savior. Guess

955
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: what not, Just sit down, I'm not going to play anymore.

956
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: I'll transfer at the end of the year and make

957
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: more money and somehow this thing is completely screwed up. Now, lastly,

958
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: before I let you go, Rashida Talib, who you may

959
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: know as a congresswoman from the Detroit area in Michigan

960
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: sat in the State of Union a dress last night,

961
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: had on her lapel a button and she spelled it out.

962
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: It was the F word ice. So during a presidential

963
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: address across the world you have Democratic congresswomen like Rashida

964
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: Talib and Elon Omar wearing buttons that used the F

965
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: word spelled out phonetically correct an ice and then screaming,

966
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: hollering and shouting down the president. There's a time and

967
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: a place for everything. And there was a rebuttal from

968
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: Spanberger afterwards, the Governor of Virginia, which I thought was ridiculous.

969
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: And while the event was going on, there was another

970
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: presentation with cartoon characters on the mall the loudspeaker, with

971
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: people making a fool of themselves. What does this say

972
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: about public discourse? Can you imagine you and maybe the

973
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: Democrats are completely in charge in Ohio, which I would

974
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: anticipate at some point it might happen. In fact, in

975
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties and nineties, you generally couldn't find

976
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: a Republican with a search warrant. It was all democratic.

977
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: And if things flip around, could you imagine Representative Adam

978
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: Bird sitting on the House floor in Columbus with a

979
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: lapel button that said, f whoever the Democrat is, could

980
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: you imagine engaging in that behavior.

981
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, Willie. And I just remind you that that

982
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: congress woman that you're referring to is from Michigan. They

983
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: don't have photo ID requirement to vote, Willie. And so

984
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: that's a problem because now you're allowing anybody who can

985
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: somehow escape into our country or get into the state

986
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 4: of Michigan to vote in elections illegally. That should not

987
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: be happening. And there is there continues to be an

988
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 4: effort from the left to have a world without borders.

989
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: They want America to be an economic zone that's uncontrollable,

990
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: that allows NATO to be in charge, or the WEF

991
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: or whoever. And so we have got to enforce our borders.

992
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: We got to enforce our law. And it's very upsetting, Willy,

993
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: when you have people who have been elected to governments

994
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: who want to tear down our country, our constitution and

995
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: let anything go. And when you talk about political discourse

996
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 4: and how it has changed in America and become more divisive,

997
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 4: it's not because Republicans have changed. It's because the left

998
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: has moved so far to the left, and you know,

999
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 4: some of the things that you heard the President talked

1000
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: about last night could have been uttered by Bill Clinton,

1001
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: the kinds of things about protecting our border. And so

1002
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: the left has changed radically, kareem to the left. And

1003
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: I would argue, Willie, that some of that has happened

1004
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: because of political indoctrination that hascurd in some of our

1005
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: higher ed campuses.

1006
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: And also Princeton High School and Walnut Hills. That's a

1007
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: different issue. But once again, Adam Bird, thanks for coming

1008
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show. And next time I run

1009
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: into Larry Bird, I'm going to check out your relationship.

1010
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's great to hear that Trumpster talk about,

1011
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: you know, the photo ID and the lower inflation and

1012
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 4: the secure borders in the lower taxes and teams around

1013
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: the world. Willie, we are living in a great time

1014
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: for a great president. I'm so thankful that I voted Born.

1015
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: It was like the Gettysburg address. But once again, Adam Byrd,

1016
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: thank you very much and continue to have a great

1017
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: day this afternoon. Thank you very much.

1018
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: Honor to be with you, sir.

1019
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: God bless America. News coming up in my comments on

1020
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: the state of Union. Next on news radio seven hundred

1021
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: WLW Doura's.

1022
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 5: Heavily protected military fortress. This was a major military installation,

1023
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 5: protected by thousands of soldiers and guarded by Russian and

1024
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 5: Chinese military technology.

1025
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: How did that work out? Hello, Buiet, I'm broadcasting you know,

1026
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: so I know you're a great supporter of AOC and

1027
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: and it's no.

1028
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 6: They should have tossed her and that other who's the

1029
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 6: other lady that was a no?

1030
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.

1031
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 6: The other lady that was sitting next door said I

1032
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 6: think that was a caregiver. She had a little sign

1033
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: on it said release the fire of Epstein files also

1034
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 6: had the word how about the f work fold threw

1035
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 6: her out with that other guy.

1036
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: So you're not a great supporter of AOC. The snot

1037
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: to leave? No, she none, none of them.

1038
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 4: No.

1039
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: And I'm also upset.

1040
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 6: What are they going to do in uh in New

1041
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 6: York City about the cops getting hit with all these snowballs?

1042
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: These people My mom, Donnie the marriage said that simply

1043
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a childish snowball fight. Oh,

1044
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: I see, I didn't I didn't see ah, I didn't

1045
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: see a policemen throw one. Well, can you imagine if

1046
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: that happened in Hamilton with Richard K. Jones or Rob Sanders,

1047
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: they would have called out the National Guard to stop

1048
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: that kind of guard. I don't blame him. Also, not

1049
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: much of a hockey kind of a guy. I know

1050
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: you are. But the moments when the hockey team came

1051
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: down Jack Ughes, what was it, Connor Helbeck, Connor Bach, Yes, unbeatable, untied,

1052
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: and then you had I watched MSNBC this morning, so

1053
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to ms now. They said they were

1054
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: young political props used to advance Donald Trump's agenda, and

1055
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: they should have said no. It should have turned down.

1056
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: The Medal of Freedom, should have turned down going into

1057
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: the Oval office, should have turned down coming into the Congress,

1058
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: should have turned it all down. When Jack Ughes shed

1059
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: blood for the American people.

1060
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 6: Their comments and uh yeah, well that that channels is

1061
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 6: a bunch of you know what's clowns and dopes. You're

1062
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 6: playing for your country over there. You're not playing for

1063
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 6: anything else. You're playing for your nation, and they want

1064
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 6: it all for the United States. And you know, I mean,

1065
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 6: come on, well, I'm.

1066
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 1: Telling you this. When when o'biden was in the White House.

1067
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: I call him o'biden. When they were in the White House,

1068
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: there was a player on hockey that they won the

1069
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup. One of the players did not want to

1070
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: go to the White House and he put out something

1071
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: the effective, Look, this is something I don't want to do.

1072
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't support what's going on in the country. He

1073
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: was viciously attacked. The hockey player was attacked by the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media including msnbcms NOW, CNN, and all the rest

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Speaker 1: for not honoring the country, but by winning a Stanley Cup,

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Speaker 1: se the Stanley Cup. I think the Florida Panthers hold

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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup right correct. When they won it, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't like a national issue. When Indiana Hoosiers won the

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Speaker 1: football title college football, that wasn't such a big deal.

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Speaker 1: In basketball, when the Florida Gators wanted Okay, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people didn't want the Florida Gators. But who doesn't

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Speaker 1: want America to win? Who doesn't want the American people?

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Speaker 6: I mean, we should be united and the Olympics, well,

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Speaker 6: he that's what America is all about, is the Olympics

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Speaker 6: and winning. They didn't win the medal count but I mean,

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Speaker 6: look look what they They won major of major events

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Speaker 6: except for the the guy that flips on the skates, uh,

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Speaker 6: the you know, but other than that, the quad god yeah,

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Speaker 6: quad god yeah him so. But I mean he'll make

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Speaker 6: his money on holiday, on ice or whatever coming to

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Speaker 6: town and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's, uh, I don't know. You're playing

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Speaker 1: for your nation over there. You're not.

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Speaker 6: You know, these other channels are just dopes. They just

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Speaker 6: don't get it that you're playing for your nation. And

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Speaker 6: that's what those guys are over there for. And it's

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Speaker 6: a brilliant move that they bring the NHL ers over there,

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Speaker 6: because if they would bring college kids, I mean, who knows,

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Speaker 6: it would have been would have been another miracle in Milan.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. And I think today NHL starts again,

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Speaker 1: I may start watching hockey, which I've never done. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand icing. Do you understand icing? Yes?

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Speaker 4: What is that?

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Speaker 1: I'll get to it in a minute. Go ahead.

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Speaker 6: The sports is Willie the Stooge, reporters of proud service

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Speaker 6: of your local Tamestar.

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Speaker 1: Heating and air conditioning dealers.

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Speaker 6: and Air Solutions five one, three, three, six seven h

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Speaker 6: E A. T. Spot and Willie, we want to thank

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Speaker 6: Dorothy Lane Market today who brought our appetites and uh

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Speaker 6: today they brought our appetites right here today at the

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Speaker 6: at iHeartMedia.

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Speaker 1: And made right here. They made a made right here

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Speaker 1: meal with an Italian flair.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 6: And you had meat and cheese lasagna. You had DLM

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Speaker 6: Italian meatballs, rosemary for katcha. Also DLM house salad. And

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Speaker 6: you can and and also Willie, you can go to

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Speaker 6: the gourmet takeaway. This is an area of the store

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Speaker 6: there on Mason Montgomery Road where you'll find a robust

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Speaker 6: selection of homemade meal options that are already prepared and heat.

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Speaker 6: You got to do is heat and neat love it

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Speaker 6: and made right here is what you hear those words.

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Speaker 6: It's made right there at Dorothy Lane Market.

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Speaker 1: Love it. So thank you for that very much. SEGM man,

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Speaker 1: give me some sports and make it fast, Willy.

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Speaker 6: The Miami RedHawks rolled to twenty eight and oh and

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Speaker 6: fifteen and oh in the MAC Yes. Travis Steele's team

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Speaker 6: holds Eastern Michigan scoreless for the first six and a

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Speaker 6: half minutes.

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Speaker 1: Last night, Eagles go.

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Speaker 6: Down and they win seventy four to sixty four. Up

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Speaker 6: next to Western Michigan the next victim, bron THEWKS Red.

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Speaker 1: Hawks on a roll. Ready for the big question about

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Speaker 1: Miami go ahead. If they lose during the MAC Tournament,

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Speaker 1: do they still get to the Big Show? Lance McAllister says, no,

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Speaker 1: they don't deserve it. They played a lousy schedule. They're

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Speaker 1: ranked rank his schedules, like two hundred and eighty ninth

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Speaker 1: in the country. Lance McAllister is well intended, but he

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Speaker 1: can be a clown. What are your comments about Miami

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Speaker 1: losing an attorney and then not going I think I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna make it. I didn't ask you that.

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Speaker 1: Please continue, Oh.

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Speaker 6: Dayton upset number twenty three, Saint Louis number sixteen, Texas

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Speaker 6: Tech over the Bearcats stopped that four game win streak

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Speaker 6: down Tonight Xavier and Providence seven o'clock on fifty five

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Speaker 6: krc NKU and Cleveland State at six thirty Fox Sports

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Speaker 6: thirteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: Red's update. We got the reds action today.

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Speaker 6: Nick Lodolo going for the Red Legs up against the

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Speaker 6: White Sox three two thirty five with that RNL carriers

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Speaker 6: inside pitch.

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Speaker 1: Today we got the action.

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Speaker 6: Let's see Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits,

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Speaker 6: Winding Tobacco and Party Town, thirteen convenient locations in Northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 6: Bengals Director of Player Personnel Duke Tobin spoke at the

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Speaker 6: NFL Combine. Did not reveal whether or not they're going

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Speaker 6: to tag number ninety one Trey Hendrickson. And it's a

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Speaker 6: very important offseason for this team and.

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Speaker 1: He knows it. Hey critic, because right now, think of

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Speaker 1: a segment. The Browns are going to be the the

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Speaker 1: tailors are down, new coach Ravens are going to be down.

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Speaker 1: New quote. This is the time when the Reds, when

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Speaker 1: the roster for the Bengals have to be positioned in

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Speaker 1: such a way as to maximize Joe Burrow number one

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Speaker 1: and number five, take one, five to nine, one, five

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Speaker 1: to nine, take nine and five adds up to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: You might know, four rivers, Pete Rose one, five to nine.

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Speaker 1: You've got to maximize it. Right now. The time is now, segment,

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Speaker 1: The time is now.

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Speaker 6: Also tonight Willy A TQL Stadium, It's round two of

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Speaker 6: the CONCA Camps Champions Cup Series O and MFC out

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Speaker 6: of the Dominican Republic taking on FC Cincinnata and the

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Speaker 6: Action at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. EHL Hockey Tonight,

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Speaker 6: our beloved Cyclones are home up against the Toledo Walleye

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Speaker 6: and also Willie. We will say congratulations. In the Great

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Speaker 6: Fruit League yesterday, the Yankees beat Toronto eight to seven.

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Speaker 6: But in the ninth inning for Toronto, Jake Casey with.

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Speaker 1: A home run. What the sun?

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Speaker 6: The son of the mayor number twenty one? Forever Sean Casey?

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Speaker 6: Can he run as fast as Sean Casey?

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Speaker 1: Who? Jay Casey? I thank you could No, I can

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Speaker 1: run probably faster than Sean Casey, but not Jake. Please continue.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's looked like. That's about it. But big

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Speaker 6: night in college basketball last night. Willie and Xavier and

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Speaker 6: Providence will play tonight. They were postponed last night because

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Speaker 6: the Providence Rhode Island got nearly three feet of snow.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully tonight they can play last night's stated union.

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Speaker 1: How about Officer Eric Slover was there? It was a

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Speaker 1: SHINEK helicopter pilot wounded, mortally survived, dropped those Great American

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Speaker 1: Eros on top of the palace. Also one hundred year

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Speaker 1: old Royce Williams. How about that too. Korea and also

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Speaker 1: Vietnam shotdown on four or five or six Soviet jets.

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Speaker 1: Knock out the medal of honor. Knock them all. Herple

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Speaker 1: heart was given the sergeant Andrew wolf who survived the

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Speaker 1: back of the head shooting by an illegal immigrant, legal

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Speaker 1: alien who wanted to kill somebody in uniform. He picked

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Speaker 1: Andrew wolf and Sarah Beckstram. Sadly, Sarah did not make it.

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Speaker 1: She's dead. Her parents were there, and Andrew Wolfe was

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Speaker 1: there to get the purple heart. Democrats didn't stand for

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Speaker 1: that either. No, and it's just awful. And then seven

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Speaker 1: year old Delilah Coleman, who's a little girl who was

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Speaker 1: almost murdered, killed by an lego alien truck driver. I

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Speaker 1: know you're a great supporter as I am with truckers,

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Speaker 1: but if you can't read the signs in English, I

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Speaker 1: know you support the legal aliens. Now, if you can't

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Speaker 1: read the sign in English, don't drive a truck.

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Speaker 6: Would you agree? Correct? Correct, keep that goal. I have

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Speaker 6: enough problems to signs myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But imagine if you don't speak of the English,

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Speaker 1: she got no chance of operating the truck. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: I don't I agree with you. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: bad bunny. What did you think? What did you think

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Speaker 1: of the overall of the speech?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like the Gettysburg address all right,

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Speaker 1: only longer. Okay, I mean I was standing up. I

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Speaker 1: was cheering the hockey team, the military heroes, Eliah Coleman,

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Speaker 1: the little girl almost killed murdered by legal trucker right,

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Speaker 1: and the sore Democrats seeds sat down. So I don't

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Speaker 1: want to blame Democrats specifically. This is the Democratic Socialist Party.

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Speaker 1: So the party of Charlie Lucan and John Cranlee are

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Speaker 1: Anthony Celebrazy or vern Riife Dick Celestie. That's not the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party today. He's a The Democratic Socialists are put

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Speaker 1: here to sow seeds of discord and distrust among us,

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Speaker 1: and you and I segment cannot let that happen. And

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Speaker 1: I thought too.

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Speaker 6: He took a couple of shots at the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 6: and I thought that might be I thought that might

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Speaker 6: be a little bit rougher.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I guess he you know, what

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Speaker 1: do you do? I guess Obama did the same thing,

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Speaker 1: and he was a plot. He might recall that Obama

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Speaker 1: overall lies about the Supreme Court, and Samuel Alito said

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Speaker 1: that's not true, and the media went crazy on who

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, not on Obama. They let Obama alone

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Speaker 1: correct and Segment, well, I'm glad you brought this up.

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Speaker 1: The streets of Cincinnati continuing to run red with blood

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Speaker 1: in a park this morning, and two more were killed,

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Speaker 1: and city councils worried about illegal aliens. I worry about

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Speaker 1: the health and safety of the American people. When will

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Speaker 1: the voters in Cincinnati figure it out? Segment? When will

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Speaker 1: they figure it out? Twenty thirty seven? I doubt it?

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Speaker 1: I doubt it. I felt proud to be an American.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. And I got a text here from

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Speaker 1: Frank Zibel the best state of the Union in the

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Speaker 1: history of this country. I could. I thought it was.

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Speaker 1: The Gettysburg address went on and I kind of wish

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Speaker 1: it would have gone on at one more hour. I

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Speaker 1: want it one more hour at the Trumpster, I want

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Speaker 1: it one more hour if I could. And I also

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Speaker 1: tweeted about this or exed about this. In twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: There should be an acclamation. Just keep Trump there for

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Speaker 1: four more years by acclamation and simply canceled the presidential

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Speaker 1: election in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: What about that segment? Now, let me ask you something, Willie.

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Speaker 6: If they send JD Vance up there, can Trump become

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Speaker 6: vice president?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, but then the constitution says you can't be

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Speaker 1: elected to the offic more than twice. But he's been

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Speaker 1: elected twice to the office. You got to change the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court, change to constitution. We get waive all that

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Speaker 1: by acclamation. At some point Cincinnati City Council will pass

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Speaker 1: a resolution calling for the third term of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think that will happen. No, seg get me out

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Speaker 1: of the Stuge Report? Coming up after the news will

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Speaker 1: be Keith. Will be Keith O'Brien, who wrote a book

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Speaker 1: about one of my favorite players of all time, Larry Bird.

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Speaker 1: Bird is the word segment Get me out of the

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Speaker 1: Studge Report?

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Speaker 6: Please will Leon Honor of Ritz Baseball coming up in

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Speaker 6: about one hour, we leave you with the immortal words

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Speaker 6: of the Stood Report ends up.

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Speaker 1: These people are crazy. I'm telling you they're crazy. City Council.

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Speaker 1: At one point we'll be voting for Donald Trump because

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Speaker 1: her policies have failed. Even they'll recognize they're on the

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Speaker 1: wrong track. Yeh, segment, Thank you very much. Let's continue

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Speaker 1: with more one fifty four Home of Your Reds Live

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Speaker 1: on the Bigger One in about forty five minutes on

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Speaker 1: news Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy cunning Ham, The

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Speaker 1: Great America. Of course, many many months ago, it might

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Speaker 1: have been as long as a year ago. I had

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Speaker 1: on Keith O'Brien who wrote the definitive work on Pete

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Speaker 1: Rose and Charlie Hustle, and it was a fabulous dissertation

1286
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: of Pete Rose and his life where he came from

1287
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: his relationship with his father, Boldfaced Park, all the way

1288
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: up from nineteen sixty with Tony Perez in New York

1289
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: and playing minor league baseball all the way through his death.

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: Keith O'Brien is a new book out which is called Heartland.

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01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: It's about Larry Bird and it's coming out from March

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: Madison More. And I am not aware of the research

1293
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: that Keith O'Brien did on Larry Bird and what it meant.

1294
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: But once again Keith O'Brien, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: And Keith first of all, Larry Bird almost didn't have happened.

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Speaker 1: Can you relate? First of all, let's go back before that,

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01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: before he went to Indiana and did not play for

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: the Hoosiers and Bob Knight. Go back in time to

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01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: Larry Bird's background, what happened in his early years that

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 1: made him Larry Bird.

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: So our Land is an origin story. It's not a

1302
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: soup to nuts biography. It's really an origin story of

1303
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: Larry Bird's rise in rural Indiana in the nineteen seventies.

1304
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 3: This narrative unfolds between nineteen seventy three and nineteen seventy nine.

1305
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: Everything after that for me is epilogue in this narrative.

1306
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 3: And you're absolutely right, Bill, you know, in you know,

1307
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 3: the early nineteen seventies, Larry Bird very nearly slips away.

1308
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: There is one hundred percent an alternative reality out there

1309
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: in which we don't know Larry Bird's name, in which

1310
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: he never escapes French like, in which he, you know,

1311
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 3: ends up getting a job as a wood finisher at

1312
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: the Kimball Piano Plant and French liake just like his father.

1313
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: You know, you know, in yearly seventies, Bird wasn't considered

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: a great star even at his little high school in

1315
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 3: French Lick Springs Valley High School. For the first three

1316
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: years there he was never the best player on his

1317
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 3: own team. You know, in that way, he's a lot

1318
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: like Pete Rose. But you know, before his senior year

1319
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 3: of high school, Bird has something happens to Bird that

1320
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: really changes basketball history. He has an enormous gross burt

1321
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 3: and he grows about three or four inches in a

1322
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: span of several months. And you know, this, this Grothsburg,

1323
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: you know, puts him on the radar of at least

1324
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: Midwestern college recruiters. And so you know, in that winter

1325
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 3: of seventy three seventy four, you know, school's like Louisville,

1326
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 3: University of Cincinnati, Purdue Indiana, Miami of Ohio. They're taking

1327
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 3: a look at Larry Bird. They're going to games at

1328
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: Springs Valley. And as you indicate it, Byrd ultimately does

1329
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: sign and agree to go to school at Indiana and

1330
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: play for But it doesn't go well there.

1331
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: Why didn't he go? Because I would think looking back

1332
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: in time, and I've seen Bobby Knight give interviews before

1333
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: his passing. Of course, in fact, he barely knew the

1334
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: guy he said he had an odd name, he didn't

1335
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: look right. He's an ugly guy, and he was tall

1336
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: and gangling. His name was Bird, and he didn't stand

1337
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: out at all. Why did he not stand out in Indiana?

1338
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: Why didn't Robert Montgomery Knight pick up on this talent

1339
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: which he missed completely? And why didn't he and Knight

1340
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: get along at all?

1341
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's two reasons. Number one in Knight's defense.

1342
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: You know, in the spring of seventy four when he

1343
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: signed Bird, you know I mentioned there was some Midwestern

1344
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: schools that were recruiting him, but a lot of schools

1345
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: are peeling away and not interested. University of Kentucky Joby

1346
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 3: Hall was interested in Bird for a while, then decides he's.

1347
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: Not good enough.

1348
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 3: He's not fast enough, he's not quick enough to play

1349
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: in sec basketball. So, you know, schools are falling away.

1350
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 3: And in the voters, the high school polsters in Indiana

1351
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: and in the spring of seventy four don't consider Bird

1352
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: a top fifteen player. I mean, think about that for

1353
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 3: a second. According to the AP voters in Indiana and

1354
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 3: the spring of seventy four, there are at least fifteen

1355
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 3: players who are better than Larry Bird. So Knight signs him,

1356
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 3: but he's not excited about him. And you're right, he

1357
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: doesn't know him. And this is something that I think

1358
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 3: is specific Tonight. You know, when Bird shows up on

1359
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,679
Speaker 3: campus there in Bloomington in August nineteen seventy four, that's

1360
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 3: a really great team. Ho's your basketball team. It's already

1361
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: there at Assembly Hall. This is Quinn Buckner, Scott may Ken, Benson.

1362
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: You know without Bird, without him, they're going to.

1363
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: Have an undefeated season.

1364
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 3: One year later, they're going to have a stretch of

1365
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: basketball where the Hoosiers win like sixty five games and

1366
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 3: lose one over the span of two years. So they

1367
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: don't really need Bird. And Knight doesn't know him at all.

1368
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: And you know, when Bird arrived on campus, you know,

1369
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: he's a sensitive young man. He's a troubled young man

1370
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: coming from an impoverished home. You know, he really needs

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01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 3: more than what Night is giving. And based on my reporting,

1372
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 3: you know he Bird is just not treated well by

1373
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: members of that team. You know, they take his ball

1374
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 3: at the pickup games, they don't pass the ball to him,

1375
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: they don't sometimes play him in the game. And you know,

1376
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 3: I interviewed one student manager who told me he had

1377
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: a vivid memory of the last game the Bird ever played,

1378
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: the last pickup game that he played in September seventy four.

1379
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: And at the end of that game, Bird was complaining

1380
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 3: because they weren't passing to him or they hadn't played

1381
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 3: him at all. And one of the players, the Hoosia

1382
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 3: players in the locker room, looked at Bird and said,

1383
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: tell me again where you're from. And and the point

1384
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: was clear.

1385
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, Bird was a nobody.

1386
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 3: He was from nowhere. And you know, based on my reporting,

1387
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: that was the last game that Bird played at French

1388
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: at Bloomington, and he hitchhikes home to French Lick within

1389
01:11:59,720 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: an hour.

1390
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: We'll get to that up part in a moment. I know,

1391
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: Bird's father killed himself, and you talk about Bird being troubled,

1392
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Explain the troubling aspects of Larry Bird's life before he

1393
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: got to Indiana.

1394
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, his parents are divorced. French Lake

1395
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 3: at the time is an impoverished town. Bird's home is

1396
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 3: impoverished as well. Larry's father is you know, is an

1397
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 3: alcoholic and has been for years. You know, in the

1398
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: winter in which he leaves Bloomington and hitchhikes home to

1399
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: French Lake, Larry's dad will kill himself. And you know,

1400
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: these days, Bill, you know, we have a word for that,

1401
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to kids. It's a trauma. You know,

1402
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: a suicide is a trauma and a family and unfortunately

1403
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: all too many families out there know that. But in

1404
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four, seventy five, it wasn't treated like that.

1405
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 3: It certainly wasn't treated like that, you know, for in

1406
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: French Lig with Larry Bird's family. You know, if he

1407
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: has to almost soldier on alone, you know, burying this

1408
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: enormous grief, this enormous trauma, and in a lot of ways,

1409
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 3: you know, that will define him in the years to come,

1410
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 3: for reasons that are easy to understand now, but I

1411
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: think at the time we're much harder to understand.

1412
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: I can imagine that locker room nineteen seventy sixty, who's

1413
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: your team on? Undefeated, untied, unscored on last undefeated champion,

1414
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: maybe never to be repeated. Look around a locker room,

1415
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: Miss Quinn Buckner and Scott May. They're looking down there

1416
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: and see this tall, skinny, ugly guy named Larry Bird.

1417
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 1: Who the hell do you think you are If somebody

1418
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: had told that group at that point Larry Bird might

1419
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: have been the greatest basketball player of all time? What

1420
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: would Bob what would Robert Montgomery might have said about that?

1421
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: If somebody tapped him on his shoulder and say, see

1422
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: that guy sitting over there, that's the player of the

1423
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, that's the three time Boston Celtics champion, that's

1424
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: the three time MVP. That is the most respecting a

1425
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: love basketball player maybe at the last half of the

1426
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: twentieth century. What would Knight have said about that? Who

1427
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: that guy?

1428
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't He wouldn't have believed it. I mean, listen,

1429
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: you know, Bobby Knight is himself a basketball icon, an

1430
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 3: Indiana icon, and a flawed American icon. But one thing

1431
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: that Bobby Knight was he was confident in his own abilities,

1432
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: for better or for worse. Sometimes I confidence helped him,

1433
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 3: sometimes it hurt him, and it did hurt him when

1434
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 3: it came to Larry Bird. But again in defense of Knights,

1435
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: for a moment, you know, nobody in the fall of

1436
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: seventy four thought Bird was going to be any of

1437
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: those things that you just listed, And in fact, when

1438
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: he leaves Bloomington and hitchhikes home to French Lake. Just

1439
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 3: to give you a sense of how others felt about Bird.

1440
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: Only one story, only one story, is written about Bird

1441
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 3: leaving Indiana. It's written by the Bloomington Herald telephone, the

1442
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 3: local paper. No one cares, No one cares that this

1443
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 3: guy is left. And in that winter of seventy four

1444
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 3: seventy five, when he's returned home to French Lick, when

1445
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: he gets that job collecting trash for the town, when

1446
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 3: his father, you know, kills himself in that tragic way.

1447
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 3: You know, Bird isn't you know, on anyone's radar. He

1448
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 3: has literally slipped to the edge.

1449
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: Of the basketball map.

1450
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: He is playing pickup basketball glorified, you know, over thirty

1451
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 3: men pick up basketball with guys who have day jobs

1452
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 3: and wives and children. In the scant stories that are

1453
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: written about Bird in this winter, you know, covering these

1454
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,520
Speaker 3: games and what we called the Industrial League, the newspapers

1455
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: can't even spell bird name right. They spell it b

1456
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 3: A I RB very baard. They don't know who he is.

1457
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: And so you know, he really is slipping away. And

1458
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: were it not for a man named Bill Hodges down

1459
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: on his luck, assistant coach at Indiana State. It's very

1460
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: possible that we don't know the name Larry Bird. It's

1461
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 3: very possible that Bird doesn't ever leave French Lick again.

1462
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: So Keith o' brownie, let me get this right. He's

1463
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: his scholarship to the Hoosiers. He fails miserably, he's ignored

1464
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: by Bob Knight. He hitchhikes from Bloomington to Indiana State

1465
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: to French Lick, which has got to be a hall.

1466
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: It's a couple hundred miles and there's no direct interstate.

1467
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: So there in September of seventy four is Larry Bird

1468
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: with his thumb out going from Bloomington to French Lick.

1469
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: Do I have that right? And now he's a garbage man,

1470
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: literally a garbage man. You have that right?

1471
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1472
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 3: In that winter of seventy four seventy five, I call

1473
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: it the Winter of Larry Bird's discontent. You know, he

1474
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: briefly plays for a vocational school, plays basketball at a

1475
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: vocational school. I don't mean community college, I don't mean

1476
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 3: a JUCO program. He plays for a place called Northwood Institute,

1477
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 3: which is essentially a small two hundred student vocational school

1478
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 3: in West Baden, Indiana. He quits that team too, Bill,

1479
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 3: and then he gets that job hauling trash. You know,

1480
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: his father kills himself shortly after that. Bird is now

1481
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 3: playing in that men's league that I mentioned, and in

1482
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: April seventy five, you know, at that moment, you know,

1483
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 3: at that moment when he's disappearing, Bill Hodges, his coached

1484
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: Indiana State, decides to drift down to French Lick and

1485
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 3: see if he can find Larry Bird. Bill Hodges has

1486
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 3: seen Bird play twice in high school, only twice. But

1487
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 3: he's wondering what he's doing now. And you know, Bill,

1488
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 3: you know, drives down from Terahoe to French Like that's

1489
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: about a two and a half hour drive in nineteen

1490
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: seventy five, and he can't find him. He has to

1491
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 3: drive around town looking for Bird. And when he does,

1492
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: you know, Bird again basically states directly to Hodge's face

1493
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 3: he has no interest in returning to college. And actually

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: Bird tells Hodges that day that there's a couple other

1495
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 3: guys in town and maybe he should look at instead.

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 3: But you know, Bill Hodges is a lot like Larry

1497
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, he's from rural Indiana.

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01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 4: He knows what it's like to be poor.

1499
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 3: He knows what it's like to be overlooked. He knows

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01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 3: what it's like to bail Hay and milk cows and

1501
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 3: Hodgson Bird connect and it's really Bill Hodges this again

1502
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 3: down in his love journeyman, assistant coach who connects with

1503
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 3: Bird and coaxes him, you know, away from the brink,

1504
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 3: away from the void and back to college. And I

1505
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: mean it, Bill, We're not for Bill Hodges. I think

1506
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: it's very likely we don't know Larry Bird's name.

1507
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: Four years later, Indiana State, I think the sycamores is

1508
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: that correct. Indiana State is playing in the national championship

1509
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: game against Magic Johnson, Irvin Magic Johnson, Michigan State. And

1510
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: those four years Larry Bird went from a disgraced, ugly,

1511
01:18:55,400 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: six foot nine inch garbage man playing recreational basketball, being

1512
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: the player of the year leading Indiana State undefeated. They

1513
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: lost the national championship game to Magic Johnson's Michigan State team,

1514
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: and that from that point on, shall we say he

1515
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: became Larry Bird? And you're saying, without that coach, how

1516
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: many Americans right now are down to their dumps, not

1517
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: feeling good about themselves. Woe is me, I'm not sure

1518
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: you get lower than what Larry Bird was in nineteen

1519
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: seventy five, in April in nineteen seventy five, But four

1520
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: years later he's a National Player of the Year. And

1521
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 1: and then he goes to the Boston Celtics and at

1522
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: that point rent ourback maneuver to get Larry Bird. He

1523
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: saw something in Bird that others didn't because Bird wasn't quick,

1524
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: he didn't run fair, he wasn't quick, he wasn't fast,

1525
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: and he couldn't jump. So in the NBA, if you're

1526
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: not very quick and you're not very fast and you

1527
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: can't jump, what are the odds of you making it?

1528
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean really low?

1529
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: And you make a great point. You make a great point, though,

1530
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Larry Bird is one of the

1531
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 3: great American understories, full underdog stories, full stop. I don't

1532
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: mean great underdog sports stories, but great underdog stories. You know,

1533
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 3: you're you're absolutely right. You know, he is at a

1534
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: point in time where he is he is drifting away,

1535
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 3: he is lost, he is nearly gone, you know, struggling

1536
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: with all the things we've discussed, and and and he

1537
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 3: is you know, really saved. But once he once he

1538
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: is walks back from the brink. He he makes the

1539
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 3: most of that opportunity. And in this way, you know,

1540
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 3: I do think Larry Bird and Pete Rose, you know,

1541
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 3: are similar. You know, they worked for what they got.

1542
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 3: They they they were dedicated to their sport for the

1543
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 3: nature of the sport. You know, Pete Rose loves hitting

1544
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 3: for the sake of hitting. You know, Pete would live

1545
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: in the batting cage before and after games, even after

1546
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: he was the star, because he loved it. He won,

1547
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 3: he wanted to get better at it. Bert did the same.

1548
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 3: He lived on the basketball court before and after games.

1549
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 4: All the time.

1550
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 3: I mean when he goes to friend, when he goes

1551
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 3: to tear a hote. In the summer of seventy five,

1552
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, based on my reporting, he lived in the

1553
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 3: boys club there, you know, where he gets the key

1554
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: and is able to shoot baskets, you know, at his

1555
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: heart's content, deep into the night.

1556
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1557
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 3: You know, these guys, you know, work for what they get.

1558
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 3: They pull themselves up. And you know, Red r Bachs

1559
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 3: sees something in Bird. You know, it's like the opposite

1560
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 3: of Bobby Knight. You know, Red Arbachs sees it and

1561
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 3: he says out loud. You know one, he drafts him

1562
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 3: one year before he's able to play. At the time,

1563
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: NBA teams held the rights to players for one year

1564
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 3: if you if you drafted them, and so our backs

1565
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: drafts him in seventy eight, stashes in the leg and

1566
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: a dall back very smartly says, and I think this

1567
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 3: is there's a lesson in life, a lesson in business

1568
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 3: for this.

1569
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: And I'm paraphrasing here.

1570
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 3: Arbuc says, a year goes by faster than you think,

1571
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: and one year from now, a lot of people are

1572
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 3: going to be kicking themselves that they didn't take a

1573
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: chance on Larry Bird.

1574
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: And right, well, we got to run. But I can

1575
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: only imagine the Who's your teams in the late seventies

1576
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: with Larry byrd on it playing for Bobby Knight. That

1577
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: would have been a classic. But this is a great

1578
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: American success story, just like your book, Charlie Hustle and

1579
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: Pete Rose came from nowhere. It didn't look like a

1580
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: baseball player. He couldn't hit with power, he couldn't run

1581
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: very fast, but my gosh, he was the best hitter

1582
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: perhaps of all time. And Larry Bird the same way.

1583
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: A garbage man from French lick down on his luck.

1584
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 1: Bill Hodges takes a shot on him. Away we go

1585
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: and read Auerbach picked him a year early and the

1586
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: rest is history. The rest of the story maybe we'll

1587
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: get you on later on. Talk about the rest of

1588
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: the story is years in Boston and with the Dream

1589
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: Team in nineteen ninety two. We haven't touched on that,

1590
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: but up against the clock and Keith O'Brien. Lastly, we

1591
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: have about thirty seconds remaining. You're going to appear in

1592
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati area on three to three is when the book's

1593
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: coming out, thirty three. But where will you be in

1594
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati area?

1595
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, book Heartland comes down on March third. I'll be

1596
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 3: at the Campbell County Public Library on Friday March sixth,

1597
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 3: and I'll be at Joseph Beth and Rookwood on Saturday,

1598
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: March seventh. Heartland is available wherever you.

1599
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: Buy your books. Well, you know, Keith O'Brien, this is

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01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: an American success story. More need to be told. You

1601
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: may be at the bottom of your dump. You may

1602
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: feel as if your life is worthless, but look at

1603
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: the examples of Larry Bird and Pete Rose, and there's

1604
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: always hope Keith O'Brien, you're a great American and thanks

1605
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Keith,

1606
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

1607
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 5: Bill.

1608
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: God bless America. The name of the book is Heartland News,

1609
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: Coming up and more at your home of the Redgs

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01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: and Bengals. News Radio seven hundred WULW