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Speaker 2: All right, what's up Moager, ESPN fifteen thirty, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Should short arms matter? Oh, that's the big topic today

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Speaker 2: I mentioned before. We're gonna go to Indianapolis coming up

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Speaker 2: at four thirty five and talk about Reuben Bain and

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Speaker 2: is his arm length the Brendan Sorosby thing. Will discuss

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Speaker 2: in further detail a little bit later on. Chad Brendle's

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Speaker 2: going to join us at three forty five to talk

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Speaker 2: about Soresby versus you see and UC Bearcat basketball on

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Speaker 2: the heels of Tuesday's loss to Texas Tech. So we

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Speaker 2: today found out that Rubin Bain, who look may or

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Speaker 2: may not be there when the Bengals go on the

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Speaker 2: clock with the tenth overall pick, has historically short arms

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Speaker 2: thirty and seven a seven inch And this has been

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Speaker 2: when the production was off the charts. Twenty and a

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Speaker 2: If you watched him in the Big Ten title game,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If you watched him in the National title game,

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Speaker 2: the hell I'm thinking there. If you watched him in

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Speaker 2: the National Title Game, even though Miami lost in Ena,

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Speaker 2: But all along, as his season played out and as

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Speaker 2: the draft process has started, people have talked about his

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Speaker 2: bunch of other players who play ruben Bain's position and

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Speaker 2: first man I ain't know it. I saw that. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: is that long as short? Well? Because people keep track

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Speaker 2: of such things. The only edge rushers to have shorter

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Speaker 2: short arms? Now you know who knows dude? That dude

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Speaker 2: might not be there when the Bengals go on the clock.

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Speaker 2: you hear smart people talk about Caleb Downs. After breaking

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Speaker 2: and if the Bengals took him. But I think the

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Speaker 2: Ruben Bain conversation is interesting because we just did something

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Speaker 2: somewhat similar last year. The Bengals leaned into traits. Now

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Speaker 2: will be fascinating to see if he's available. If the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had I had two thoughts. One was this

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Speaker 2: is awesome, this is fun, and the other wise you

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Speaker 2: might need some of those on Saturday. What do we

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Speaker 2: learn about FC Cincinnati in the match against Atlanta? Well,

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Speaker 2: I think you.

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Speaker 7: Learned that they have a little bit of depth to

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Speaker 7: be able to handle what, hopefully, I believe Pat Newton confirmed,

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Speaker 7: is not a serious injury to Evander. I think FC

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati fans have known for a couple of years now.

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Speaker 7: What a fantastic I guess you'd call him a reserve,

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Speaker 7: But what a fantastic compliment to a Vander that Dotto

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Speaker 7: Valezuela is. He came in, he didn't miss a beat,

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Speaker 7: he kept things ticking. He doesn't have, at this moment

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Speaker 7: in time, the same. I guess you could call it

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Speaker 7: final third killer instinct that Evander has. But Valezuela is

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Speaker 7: a soccer player. He is a great, great soccer player.

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Speaker 7: He's got a really bright future and I want to

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Speaker 7: see him with more opportunities to be on the field

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Speaker 7: more and I hope it doesn't have to come at

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Speaker 7: the expense of an injury to Evander. But I think

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati fans will will find out a lot more about

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Speaker 7: their team in the next couple of weeks in Pat

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Speaker 7: Noonan how he has evolved things tactically to try to

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Speaker 7: make up for not only losing your one of your

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Speaker 7: best players, one of the best players in the league,

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Speaker 7: but also how you can continue to evolve from being

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Speaker 7: just a very good regular season team to then carrying

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Speaker 7: that over into the playoffs. And so it was a

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Speaker 7: professional performance against Atlanta United. I was able to watch

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Speaker 7: back most of that game, and it was comfortable. They

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Speaker 7: looked comfortable. They missed a couple of golden opportunities, but

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Speaker 7: you got big moments in the match. Cincinnati got the

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Speaker 7: big moments in the match, especially in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Right, I was thinking the worst, as most of his

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Speaker 2: sports fans do, when a Vander went down the other night.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they've dodged something really serious, which is good,

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Speaker 2: I do think, though it provides an interesting test because

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Speaker 2: and I think you could say this about FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: going back to when Lucho Acosta was here, it felt

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Speaker 2: like there were times where they leaned on him a

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Speaker 2: little bit too much. And then I would say the

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Speaker 2: same about Avander last year, and he was up to

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Speaker 2: the task and they had a good season. But I

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Speaker 2: do think like that's been one of the storylines this year,

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Speaker 2: like can you find offense without him on the field,

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Speaker 2: And while you want him and you are breathing a

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Speaker 2: huge sigh relief that it feels like this is not

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Speaker 2: going to be something all that serious. I do think

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Speaker 2: it provides them a chance to pass an early season test,

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Speaker 2: just to see if they can generate more offense without him.

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Speaker 2: What do you say to that.

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Speaker 7: It's a wonderful point. And I put a Vander in

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Speaker 7: the same category as I would an Anders Dryer, a

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Speaker 7: Lionel Messi, Denny Bowonga, a Sun Hung Men, a superstar

484
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Speaker 7: who can win a game for you at the drop

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Speaker 7: of a hat. That is what Evander is and that

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Speaker 7: is why he is one of the best players in

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Speaker 7: Major League soccer. And that's why Pat Noonan is gonna

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Speaker 7: say ten times out of ten, well, I I want

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Speaker 7: him on the field, and I want him healthy, but

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Speaker 7: you also want a plan B in a Plan CE,

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Speaker 7: and sometimes whether that's through manufactured rest or whether that's

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Speaker 7: through a small injury, you are able to find out

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Speaker 7: more about your team when some of these players aren't

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Speaker 7: on the field. I would love to see Pat Noonan

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Speaker 7: be able to incorporate Valenzuela into the lineup even when

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Speaker 7: Evander is healthy, because there are times where FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: I think they're going to dominate the game based on

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Speaker 7: the quality of players that they have. I would love

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Speaker 7: to see them put more attacking players on the field

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Speaker 7: that are able to find different solutions. And I thought

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Speaker 7: Pat Noonan got the balance right against Atlanti and Nighted.

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Speaker 7: It was a surprise to me to see Jabbari up

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Speaker 7: top from the start. I mean, look, maybe I don't

504
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Speaker 7: I didn't follow them too closely in preseason. Maybe that

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Speaker 7: wasn't a surprise to Cincinnati fans, but he impressed me.

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Speaker 7: He's a big body. He provides you a different profile

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Speaker 7: to say a Brenner. He's more of a Robin to

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Speaker 7: Evander and Kevin Denk. If they're Batman right, you have

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Speaker 7: you need another guy on the field. Who's willing to

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Speaker 7: do the dirty work, who's willing to have hold up play,

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Speaker 7: who's willing to make unselfish plays and unselfish runs to

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Speaker 7: open up space for your superstars. And so I was

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Speaker 7: impressed with Jabbari's performance. I was impressed with Brian Ramirez.

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Speaker 7: Pat Noonan went out of his way to praise him

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Speaker 7: after the game. And by the way, what is it

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Speaker 7: with FC Cincinnati being able to find these absolutely fantastastic

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Speaker 7: left foot wing backs.

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Speaker 9: I don't what what is where is.

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Speaker 7: Chris Albright shopping? Because first it was alvar Obarial and

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Speaker 7: then you lost him, you replaced him with Origiano, who

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Speaker 7: looked like a match winner, and then you get rid

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Speaker 7: of Origiano and now you have Ramirez, who looks like

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Speaker 7: a fantastic addition and a great piece to the puzzle.

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Speaker 7: So I've just been really impressed continually with Chris Albright

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Speaker 7: and his ability to go and replace important players and

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Speaker 7: make sure that Pat Noonan is constantly able to refresh

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Speaker 7: this roster.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a Saturday afternoon match on Saturday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: because that's when Saturday Afternoon matches take place. Four point

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Speaker 2: thirty Apple TV, DAX McCarty part of MLS three sixty

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Speaker 2: Austoin to have you as always, man. Enjoy the matches

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Speaker 2: this weekend, We'll do it against you and thanks so much.

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Speaker 7: My pleasure. Anytime you need me, I'm always available.

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Speaker 2: Good luck you guys, most definitely love having you on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Dax McCarty. Apple TV FC Cincinnati afternoon

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Speaker 2: match against Minnesota Minnesota Minnesota United TIEDE. We have a

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Speaker 2: new new manager or head coach, Cameron Knowles. They had

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Speaker 2: to draw in their first match against Austin twoall FC

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati coming off that victory over Atlanta and a huge

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Speaker 2: sigh of relief being breathed at the vander injury which

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Speaker 2: I was watching that unfold on social media and you

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Speaker 2: could understand why I've see Cincinnati fans were apprehensive. It

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Speaker 2: feels like they have dodged a major bullet in relation

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Speaker 2: to his injury. Seventeen away from four o'clock, Chad Brendle

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Speaker 2: on the Bearcats and Soresby versus U See.

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Speaker 10: Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic.

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Speaker 2: Twelve away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: l Oeger. Thank you for listening. Thursdays we talk you

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Speaker 2: see sports with our guy Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal dot

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Speaker 2: com man who hosted this show on Monday and Tuesday

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Speaker 2: of this week. And there's a lot to discuss, hi chat.

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Speaker 6: I know, I think I'm hosting the show Thursday and

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Speaker 6: Friday also of next week, and then I.

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Speaker 2: Believe the following Monday, right, yeah.

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Speaker 6: And Monday. Yeah? Is that your spring training trip?

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Speaker 2: That's the annual spring training track? Yes, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you and you and Jimmy have a good time counting

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Speaker 2: down the counting down the minutes. Not gonna lie to

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Speaker 2: you counting down the minutes to uh my first Arizona beer.

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Speaker 2: No question, Uh is UC versus Brendan Soresby ever actually

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Speaker 2: gonna make it to a courtroom.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I have no cluemo. This thing seems so

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Speaker 6: cut and dry, but it's all built on such a

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Speaker 6: house of cards that I mean, I guess there's a

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Speaker 6: way for them to prove through Ohio law that it

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Speaker 6: wasn't a binding contract. But I mean, if these things

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Speaker 6: aren't by like, what are we doing well? If you

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Speaker 6: can't sign a guy to a two year contract and

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Speaker 6: then hold them to the buyout in that contract, like

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Speaker 6: this thing, it's not sustained. I mean, it already doesn't

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Speaker 6: feel sustainable if this wins in court. Like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that Joe Royer should

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Speaker 2: sue Brendan Sorosby for never throwing him the football?

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Speaker 6: Maybe? Yeah, breach a contract? Right? They were roommates, so

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Speaker 6: maybe there's like, you know, something in there that they

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Speaker 6: could he could go after. I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: there's got to be a way that I just don't

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Speaker 6: I don't understand it. You you did, you see get

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Speaker 6: value out of having Brendan Soresby back for this year

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Speaker 6: from January to October. Absolutely, can they sue him back

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Speaker 6: for November?

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want to know. So you see plays

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech on October the twenty fourth, it's it's Cincinnati's homecoming.

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Speaker 2: They have the reigning Big Twelve champs in for homecoming.

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Speaker 2: Have we ever had a college football game where there's

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Speaker 2: been active litigation between one of the schools in the

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Speaker 2: game and one of the players on the other team.

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Speaker 6: You think might like, would there be a like if

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Speaker 6: he doesn't pay, would there be like a warrant out

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Speaker 6: for his arrests? Would the fuzz be with those would

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Speaker 6: those like you know, the guys that lee and those

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Speaker 6: guys that they pay for security down on the field,

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Speaker 6: would they be able to like go arrest Brendan Soresby

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Speaker 6: and warm ups?

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be a scene that would be fun? Yes,

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Speaker 2: that would be That would be yeah.

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Speaker 6: That would being the Bearcat get arrested right about a

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Speaker 6: closing teams quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's one of the things I might really

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Speaker 2: like about this era of college sports that we're in

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Speaker 2: is we're going to have schools suing players and then

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Speaker 2: those players having to play against the school, the school

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Speaker 2: that suit them, and it just it it ratchet is

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Speaker 2: it ratchets things up a little bit? And I'm here

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I I don't know, man, Like you made a

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Speaker 6: lot of money at you see, Brendan, you made a

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Speaker 6: lot of money going to Texas Tech. Like to me,

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Speaker 6: you know what it sounds like.

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Speaker 11: No one these crooked ass agents in college are taking

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Speaker 11: twenty percent off the top of these contracts.

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Speaker 6: I mean, is this guy acting the way he is

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Speaker 6: his agent because it's gonna cost him two hundred thousand dollars? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, h fair question. Chad brenda Is at Journal dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I get it. I am amused by the fact that

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Speaker 2: you have a school suing a player who may play

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Speaker 2: against him in October, Like, well, you won't play against

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Speaker 2: him in October barring injury, and we'll see if there's

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Speaker 2: still active litigation. But no, man, I'm your basic premise.

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Speaker 2: I agree with if if you can't enforce this contract,

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Speaker 2: then legitimately, what are we doing? And we ask that

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Speaker 2: somewhat rhetorically, but in an era where you know, the

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Speaker 2: entire foundation of college sports seems to have never been

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Speaker 2: flimsier than it is right now. Contracts may be the

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Speaker 2: last thing holding it up. And so if we decide

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Speaker 2: that they're null and void and can't be enforced, then

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Speaker 2: then what's the point of any of us.

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Speaker 6: I mean, here's the question, bro. If Brendan Sorsby plays

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Speaker 6: two games last year and suffers an injury that you know,

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Speaker 6: God forbid severely limits the rest of his playing career,

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Speaker 6: could Cincinnati have backed out of that two year contract

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Speaker 6: and said we're not paying twenty twenty six Because I'm

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Speaker 6: guessing if that was the case, Brendon Soorsby's lawyers would

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Speaker 6: be knocking on Cincinnati's door saying, we want our money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's switch gears. Can the Bearcats win the remaining

646
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Speaker 2: three regular season basketball games?

647
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Speaker 6: Can they? Sure? I mean, I was busy working the

648
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 6: other night and I got done working and I looked

649
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 6: up and UCF was up seventy five to thirty on

650
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Speaker 6: BYU seventy five to thirty. Now, in the next sixteen minutes,

651
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 6: I think BYU scored something like fifty six points in

652
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 6: the next sixteen minutes. So beating them is not going

653
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 6: to be easy. But I mean, Oklahoma State is struggling

654
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: right now, their best, second best player gets hurt in

655
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 6: the final five seconds of overtime in that West Virginia game.

656
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Speaker 6: You should have an advantage there. BYU, you know a

657
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 6: lot of it. I think a lot of BYU. Devans

658
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: is gonna get his he's incredible. Can you shut down

659
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Speaker 6: Rob Right? If you can shut down Rob Right and

660
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 6: they don't have Richie Saunders Sanders like you got a

661
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Speaker 6: chance against BYU. I mean the toughest one might be TCU.

662
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Speaker 6: At home, they're on the bubble, they're gonna be playing

663
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Speaker 6: for their tournament life. Jamie Dixon's teams over the past

664
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Speaker 6: couple of years have historically been significantly better at home

665
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Speaker 6: than they are on the road. That one's gonna be

666
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Speaker 6: I mean b YU and tc You're both gonna be

667
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: really difficult. But I mean that TCU one boy, and

668
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Speaker 6: that would be kind of the epitome of what we've

669
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Speaker 6: gone through the last five years. Right, they win these two,

670
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 6: now everybody's got them in the next four out, the

671
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Speaker 6: first four out. Can they get this last win and

672
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Speaker 6: then pop goes the bubble?

673
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Speaker 2: Do you subscribe to the belief that they have a

674
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Speaker 2: chance if they win the next three, and then two

675
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Speaker 2: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: What I subscribe to, what you should subscribe to is

677
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Speaker 6: Bearcat Journal dot com. What I don't subscribe to MO

678
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 6: is that conference tournaments matter at all anymore. Yeah, I

679
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 6: just don't think the election committee good.

680
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I think if there's been one

681
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Speaker 2: takeaway about this entire process that I've had for the

682
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 2: last decade, it's exactly what you just said.

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Speaker 6: They don't matter at all. They don't care. Like especially

684
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 6: the last probably five years, there's been multiple cases of

685
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 6: if this team wins one or two in the conference tournament,

686
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 6: they're playing their way in, and then that team's on

687
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 6: like the next four out like they weren't even close.

688
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 6: So there's a million bits of evidence here showing us.

689
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Speaker 6: I mean, maybe it's like, you know, you beat Arizona

690
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 6: and Houston on your way to the Big twelve title game,

691
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: but those odds are not great. So if you're gonna

692
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Speaker 6: get it done, you gotta win these next three. Let

693
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Speaker 6: the chips fall where they may. I think they probably

694
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: have dug themselves a hall that's too deep. I do

695
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 6: think there was if they had won at Texas Tech.

696
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Speaker 6: I thought there was a path, yes, because that would

697
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Speaker 6: have been another top fifteen type road win that really

698
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 6: would have enhanced your resume. You know, beating BYU at

699
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Speaker 6: home is gonna help. But I don't think anybody's gonna

700
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 6: look at that and go, damn, that's that's a team

701
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Speaker 6: that we've got to put in. So I don't think

702
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: the tournament, the Big Twelve Tournament, helps any Maybe you

703
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 6: get right there to the cut line, if you go

704
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Speaker 6: three and oh to end the regular season, I just

705
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 6: don't think there's enough meat on the bone that's gonna

706
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Speaker 6: get them over that hurdle.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you and I talked last Thursday. The Bearcats

708
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: were in the middle of a three game winning streak

709
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 2: that had it felt like change the conversation about Wes

710
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Speaker 2: Miller's future. What did saturdays blowout win at Kansas do

711
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Speaker 2: for that conversation.

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Speaker 6: I mean it solidified some of the belief that there's

713
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Speaker 6: a chance he can play his way back into consideration

714
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 6: and rightfully so, like you know, you go to Kansas

715
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 6: to be Kansas by sixteen, fully healthy Kansas. Since Darreon

716
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 6: Peterson plays the entire game, you know, nothing fluky happened

717
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 6: in that game that that was just Cincinnati played better

718
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 6: than Kansas, you know, it certainly helps. I still think

719
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 6: it's going to be a really hard sell to the

720
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 6: fan base if they don't make the NCAA tournament. But

721
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Speaker 6: there are people that you know, they donate more to

722
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 6: U see than I'll make in a decade. Those people

723
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Speaker 6: have a lot of weight, and I think that there's

724
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Speaker 6: a portion of that group that really likes Wes Miller

725
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 6: and wants to see him succeed in this job. And

726
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 6: if they're ten and eight, you know, if they went

727
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: out and they still miss the tournament, but they're ten

728
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Speaker 6: and eight in the Big twelve, and you know, they

729
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 6: they prove kind of in Big twelve play that they

730
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 6: were legitimate. I there's there's you know, there's a decent

731
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Speaker 6: chance you see him back for your six.

732
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Speaker 2: Good stuff. As always, man, I will uh, I'll talk

733
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Speaker 2: to you in two weeks. Thanks so much.

734
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Speaker 6: Enjoy Arizona, though.

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Speaker 2: I most definitely will next Wednesday, four o'clock, ESPN fifteen thirty,

736
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station.

737
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: There you go, five minutes after four o'clock. This is

739
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty on my legg or. By the way,

740
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: I can't even believe I have to like to make

741
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: this distinction, but I'm going to anyway based on an

742
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: email I got just a few minutes ago. I don't.

743
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't actually think that Joe Royer should sue Brendan

744
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: Sorosby for not throwing him the football. See what we

745
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: were doing when we said that, is we were referencing

746
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: something that's happening right now in the news, which is

747
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: U see suing Brendan Soresby. And then you know, rolling

748
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: into the conversation the fact that Joe Royer, who has

749
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: a legitimate chance to play in the NFL, like is,

750
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: is going to be drafted. I would be stuck if

751
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Joe Royer is not drafted. But his last season of college.

752
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: One of the storylines, even when the Bearcats were playing

753
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: well in September and October, was man like, everybody says,

754
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: this is one of the very best tight ends in

755
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: the country, but it feels like they never throw him

756
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: the football. And then is November unfolded, where you know

757
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: the offense wasn't as good. How many times if you're

758
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: a Bearcat fan, did you go, man, why aren't they

759
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: throwing Joe Royer the football? Joe Royer, I don't believe

760
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: NFL people will hold that against him. At least smart

761
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: NFL people won't hold that against him. But I do

762
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: think when it comes to stuff like postseason Big twelve accolades, etc.

763
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: It hurt him. I don't actually believe that Joe Royer

764
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: is going to sue Brendan Sorosby. I cannot believe I've

765
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: gotten two emails about this since two forty five this afternoon. No,

766
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 2: it's it's lightheartedness. It's fun might not have been funny

767
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: first to admit the things that come out of my

768
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: mouth and aren't that funny, but haha, laugh, lighting up.

769
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: Thank you Reds for playing the Padres today. The game

770
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: is in Goodyear. Top of the fourth inning, it is

771
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: tied at three. Cincinnati got three in the bottom of

772
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: the second inning. Chase Burns started for Cincinnati, and we'll

773
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: tell you how he did in just a second. The

774
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: Reds got their runs because Will Banfield drove in all

775
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: three with a basis clearing double. Chase Burns two and

776
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 2: a third gave up two hits, struck out five, walk two,

777
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: and currently on the mound for Cincinnati is Chase Benny.

778
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: After Nick Sando gave up a couple of runs. Three

779
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: to three. Top three Reds are the home team today

780
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: in goodyear. Remember a couple of weeks ago we found

781
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: out that the NFLPA was told by a judge that

782
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: you can't publicize your report cards. So every year, for

783
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: like four years now, the NFL surveys it's players, every

784
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: player who's been on an active roster during a season.

785
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: Some choose to participate, some choose not to participate, but

786
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: they conduct surveys of all their players. So this year

787
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 2: the survey got responses from over seventeen hundred players. All

788
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: players who were on a twenty twenty five roster at

789
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: the time of the survey were eligible to participate. The

790
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: survey this year was conducted from November two to December eleventh. Now,

791
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: a court, federal court said about a month ago that

792
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: the NFLPA is not allowed to release officially release these grades.

793
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: Owners filed a grievance, and the owners won their grievance,

794
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: so it was an arbor. It wasn't a federal judge.

795
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: An arbiter ruled that you can't release the grades, but

796
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 2: ambitious and industrious reporters are certainly free to hunt them down.

797
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: And I think what most of us concluded was the

798
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: NFLPA may not officially release the grades, but we're gonna

799
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: find out what they are anyway, because someone's gonna lead

800
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: them to a reporter. Well, Uh, Kaylan Kaylor And if

801
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: I am mispronouncing Kaylin's last name, my apologies. It's either

802
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: Kaylan Kaylor or Kaylen Koller. She has obtained the NFLPA

803
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: report card. Miami ranks number one for the third year

804
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: in a row. I'm gonna read for you, and I

805
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: haven't seen the entire survey results, so I cannot tell

806
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: you where the Bengals rank. But I'm gonna read something

807
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: for you here, ok And I want you to tell

808
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: me which NFL team I am more likely to be

809
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: talking about. Okay, Uh, let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

810
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: Scrolling through the story right here at ESPN dot com,

811
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 2: this particular team receive low grades in several categories. According

812
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: to the results obtained by ESPN. I'm leaving out the

813
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: name of the team. This owner ranks last in the

814
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: league for willingness to invest in facilities, a trend reflected

815
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: in this team's poor facility ratings across the board. In

816
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: a new category added this year, this team had the

817
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: lowest rated home field in the league by a wide margin.

818
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Players cite the inadequate maintenance and excessive war from hosting

819
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: other events. Players across the league note the poor condition

820
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: of the field and emphasized the need for investment to

821
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: bring it up to standard. This team's locker room graded

822
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 2: an F this team, according to players. They report that

823
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: this team's training room lacks updated recovery technology and modalities.

824
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: This team strength coaches ranked last in the NFL. Says

825
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: this team quote, we are not going to comment on

826
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: a report that we have not seen in its entirety. Now,

827
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: who does that sound like? Who does that sound like?

828
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: You might be going, Wait a minute, that kind of

829
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: sounds like the Bengals. Oh, though they don't have a

830
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: ton of events at their stadium and the field's not

831
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: real grass, so the field can't be that bad. But

832
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: like outdated facilities, poor conditions, bad locker room. By the way,

833
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: this team only five bathroom stalls for the entire team.

834
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 2: Training room lacks what it needs. He might be going,

835
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: that kind of sounds like the Bengals. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers.

836
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers finished in last place for the first

837
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: time in the four year history of this survey. Last

838
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: place last year Pittsburgh was twenty eighth. Cardinals finished thirty

839
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: first after a last place finished last year. The Browns

840
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: finished in thirtieth, same as twenty twenty five. Again, I'm

841
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: reading from kaylin ko story ESPN, and she doesn't have

842
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: the full list of all the great so I can't

843
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: tell you where the Bengals are. The Bengals may rank poorly.

844
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember last year they got

845
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: mocked for finishing pretty low. I believe as it relates

846
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: to like treatment of families, that sort of stuff. But

847
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this as I was reading back

848
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: toward the end of the season. The Steelers lose in

849
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: the postseason again and Mike Tomlin leaves, and it sort

850
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: of felt like it was time. I made the comment

851
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: that I feel like there are more similarities between the

852
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers than many would care to

853
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: realize or care to admit. And the reason I say

854
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: that is I'm not around the Pittsburgh Steelers. But you

855
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: listen to people who cover Pittsburgh football, you listen to

856
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: people who do sports talk radio in Pittsburgh, you hear

857
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers fans, you understand things about that franchise, a

858
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: lot of the same things that people have said about

859
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals for years. You know, mom and pop ownership,

860
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: local family run business. The facilities are outmoded, they're kind

861
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: of cheap, they're sort of stubborn and said in their ways,

862
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: there's an unwillingness or inability to kind of get with

863
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: the times. These are all things that have for years

864
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: been said about the Bengals, and sometimes very accurately. They're

865
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: actually often said about the Pittsburgh Steelers. And it's interesting

866
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 2: to me for two reasons. One is Pittsburgh has always

867
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: kind of looked up as a barometer, a franchise that

868
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: you should aspire to be like. And there's no questioning

869
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: their stability. That franchise hasn't had a losing season in forever.

870
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: They obviously have Super Bowls in their history, although it's

871
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: a more and more distant history with every passing year.

872
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: But the Steelers are often held up as a franchise

873
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: that everybody, especially in this part of the country, should

874
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: be aspiring to be number one. There's been a profound

875
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: lack of postseason success. Two, some of the same criticisms

876
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: you often hear about the Bengals have been applied to

877
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Number two, The second thing that makes

878
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: this interesting to me is I'm far from the first

879
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: person that you'll ever hear who complains about the way

880
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: the Bengals are talked about nationally. In fact, I'm gonna

881
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: have audio for you later on where one one of

882
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: those dudes on one of those cable shows where they

883
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: scream about sports talks about how the Bengals aren't a

884
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: very good team, and he's not necessarily wrong. We'll have

885
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: that in the five o'clock hour. But it is interesting

886
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: that the Bengals are often a punchline whenever things like

887
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: this come up, because people love to talk about their

888
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: frugality and people love to talk about how outdated the

889
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: Bengals are. I wonder if the Pittsburgh Steelers this go

890
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: around will get treated similarly because they are the Steelers.

891
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 2: It is the Rooney family. There's a certain brand there

892
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: that you know, by the way, the way the Pittsburgh

893
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: Steelers have played in recent years hasn't necessarily fit the brand.

894
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this to pick on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

895
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: I have no incentive to pick on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

896
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you right now could not really care less

897
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: about the Pittsburgh Steelers. But you and I both probably

898
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 2: agree that the way the two franchises are talked about

899
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: completely different, even though there's actually more similarities between the

900
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: two than some might be willing to admit. Like if

901
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: the Bengals finish dead last in this survey, which I

902
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: don't believe they ever have, and I'm not here to

903
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: tell you the Bengals are a perfect organization or run

904
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: to perfection or anything like that, But if the Bengals

905
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: finish dead last, I would be willing to met we

906
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: would be hearing about it from folks here and around

907
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: the country. Will we be hearing about it from people

908
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: around the country when it comes to the vaunted venerable

909
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers, Like if I read those quotes and I

910
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: leave out the name of the franchise and you know

911
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: nothing about either the Bengals or the Steelers, you would

912
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: probably assume I'm talking talking about Cincinnati, it's talking about Pittsburgh.

913
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: So I bring this up a it's kind of fun

914
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: to punch away at the Steelers. B I think I'm

915
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: right about this. There are more similarities between those two franchises.

916
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about their history, not talking about what

917
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: they were in the seventies or the nineties, or not

918
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: talking about Super Bowls that were won two decades ago,

919
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: talking about the way they've been run recently. There are

920
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: more similarities between those two franchises than one might be

921
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: even willing to realize or certainly willing to admit. And

922
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: I do think it will be fascinating to see if

923
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers get the level of criticism the Bengals would

924
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: have gotten had they finished dead last in this survey.

925
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: By the way, Bengals may have done very poorly in

926
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: the survey, I don't know. But the headline is about

927
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then I'm sure the rest of

928
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: the results will be released, assuming the journalist here has them.

929
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: But what I'm reading about the Steelers, what players have

930
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: had to say about facilities and things of that nature,

931
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: they read an awful lot like things we've read about

932
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: the Bengals in the past. When we've read them about

933
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals in the past, they get crushed. Well, the

934
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: Steelers get crushed seventeen after four. Sam Bruckhaus is going

935
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: to join the Summer Sports dot Com from the combine.

936
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: We'll ask him about Reuben Bain's arm length. He's got

937
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: historically short arms. Should it matter? Sam will tell us

938
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: coming up in just about fifteen minutes on ESPN fifteen

939
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports.

940
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 3: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

941
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center at u See Health.

942
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,200
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943
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944
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945
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947
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948
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Speaker 4: Five minute delayed back from Fort Washington Way, and we's

949
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951
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 2: This report is spoked Dave for us because we got

952
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: hooked up by our friends at Smoke Justice. You know

953
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: what we love at Smoke Justice. Okay, everything but the

954
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: meat wings, burgers. We got burgers and wings delivered to

955
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: the radio station from the folks at Smoke Justice, and

956
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: we are excited. We mentioned this on since E three

957
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: sixty earlier. Today we're stoked we have broadcast from Smoke

958
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: Justice on opening day. I believe ever since the first

959
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: year that Smoke Justice opened, and we're back again this year.

960
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: This is always a blast. It's since E three sixty,

961
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: Tony Pikes since he three sixty, but I get to

962
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: be a part of it. This is the one time

963
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 2: of year where the three of us get a chance

964
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: to broadcast together. We are on from noon to three.

965
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: The game is at four to ten blocking a bridge

966
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: away from the ballpark, and it's gonna be an absolute blast.

967
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: The folks that Smoke Justice are so good to us.

968
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: It is a great venue. It's a great venue for anything,

969
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: but it's obviously a great venue for opening day. You

970
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: can get something to eat that we've got the bourbon room.

971
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's a place in the Tri State

972
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: area that has a more impressive bourbon collection than Smoke Justice.

973
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: And it's a great place to be on opening Day.

974
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: We hope to see you there and again you go

975
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: to Smoke Justice. You can be at the ballpark in

976
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 2: like ten minutes after you walk across the bridge. That's

977
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: why we say it's a block and a bridge away

978
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: from Great American Ballpark. So we'll see you there on Thursday,

979
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 2: March the twenty sixth. That show will be from noon

980
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 2: to three on opening day, just like every year, it's

981
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome. Also coming up, the Bonded Spirit Bluegrass

982
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: Festival is coming up in Smoke. Justice is putting this on.

983
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: They are joining a whole lot of different businesses and

984
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: coming to other establishments as well, and it's an event

985
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: that there's gonna be stuff happening on the third and fourth,

986
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: which is let's see that's that's Wednesday, Thursday of next week.

987
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: But the headliners are Friday and Saturday. You've got the

988
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: free b Line concert starting on Friday afternoon and then

989
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: the main event show on Saturday. You're gonna have four

990
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: acts on Friday, free on Saturday. If you love music,

991
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: if you love bluegrass music, this is gonna be awesome.

992
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, there's gonna be tons and tons

993
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: and tons of bourbon like to me's that's kind of

994
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: the centerpiece of the entire event. So tickets are available,

995
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: there's not a ton left, so you're gonna wanna jump

996
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: on this. Go to Bondedspirit dot com. Gates on Friday

997
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: open at three that's March the sixth, and then on Saturday,

998
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: gates open at four o'clock. That's obviously the next day

999
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: on March seventh, And there's events happening on the third

1000
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: and the fourth as well. But you're gonna want to

1001
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: check it out. Bondedspirit dot com. That's Bonded Spirit dot Com.

1002
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be it's gonna be really cool. So again,

1003
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: thanks to the folks at Smoke Justice. A for the food,

1004
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: b for having us on opening day, and C for

1005
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: putting on this event, which is gonna be a lot

1006
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 2: of fun. Officially March third through seventh. The b Line

1007
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: Community Concert's going to be on the sixth, The Bonded

1008
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Spirit main event is going to be on the seventh,

1009
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: and you can learn about the bands, you can learn

1010
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: about everything that's gonna be happening in Covington. Bondedspirit dot Com.

1011
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: That's Bondedspirit dot Com. If you love bourbon, you will

1012
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: love this event just as much as you love Smoke Justice.

1013
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: Bondedspirit dot Com. Can't wait for opening day. By the way,

1014
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: rad Speaking of Opening Day, Reds are playing today in

1015
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: a goodyear. Top of the fifth inning, three all against

1016
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: the San Diego Padres. Chase Burns made his second start

1017
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: of the spring for Cincinnati and it went okay ish,

1018
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: I guess, wild pitch, couple of hits, two walks on

1019
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: the bad side the good side, just one run, and

1020
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: struck out five. More on that coming up here in

1021
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: uh in just a bit. I'm not here to take

1022
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: up for the Bengals. When the Bengals deserve criticism, I

1023
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: give it to you. I just I feel like sometimes

1024
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: what they do gets framed in a way that at

1025
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: times is unfair. At times it's unfair, you know, when

1026
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: when they don't retain a player, it's they're being cheap.

1027
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure it's always frugality, right. They've They've

1028
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: paid a lot of guys a lot of money. They've

1029
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: paid a lot of players very good, fair market deals.

1030
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: AJ Green at one point, for about five minutes, was

1031
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: the highest paid player at his position. Geno Atkins was two.

1032
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: DJ Reeder was the highest paid interior defensive lineman free

1033
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: agent signee of all time. Joe Burrow, for about two minutes,

1034
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: was the highest paid player in the league. Jamar Chase

1035
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: was the highest paid non quarterback in the league. Do

1036
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: they make some bad decisions? Yes, Do they make some

1037
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: decisions that have just had a huge ripple effect that

1038
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to stop. Yes, But I just

1039
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: I feel like whenever the Bengals go in the wrong

1040
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 2: direction or don't get it right, it just it gets

1041
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: pinned as something that it's not outdated, outmoded, stubborn, frugal.

1042
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: A lot of those same criticisms seem to apply to

1043
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and now their own players are telling

1044
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: you as much. We'll see how it gets talked about.

1045
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: We'll see how it gets talked about. Your phone calls

1046
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: are coming up here in just a bit five point three, seven,

1047
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty adjustin five of the Cyclones is

1048
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: set to become the franchisees all time leader in points.

1049
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: He is going to join us at five twenty. But

1050
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: now next I should say, we're gonna go to what India?

1051
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: The combine is happening. Our guy Sam Brookhouse from a

1052
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: Sumer Sports is there. He joins us next on ESPN

1053
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1054
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 10: Station, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic.

1055
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 4: From the UC Health Traffic Center at you see Health.

1056
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 4: Never missed a beat, Your heart shouldn't either. If you

1057
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Speaker 4: have signs of a cardiac rhythm disorder. Don't wait to

1058
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Speaker 4: be seen. Schedule online at ucehealth dot com. Southbound seventy

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Speaker 4: one seventy five after twelfth and accident now cleared from

1060
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Speaker 4: the left lane. Still about a ten minute delay back

1061
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Speaker 4: from Fort Washington Way on southbound seventy one after Martin

1062
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Speaker 4: Luther King Drive, the right center lane is blocked off

1063
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Speaker 4: from a disabled vehicle. I'm at Ezelic with traffic King.

1064
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Thirty DA NFL Combine is happening in Indy this week,

1065
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: which is where the crew at Suomer Sports is posted up.

1066
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: And Sam Brookhouse, who is with Suomer Sports and wrote

1067
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: a piece or contributed to a piece at least that

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Speaker 2: we referenced on yesterday's show, he is kind enough to

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Speaker 2: join us from the combine. Sam, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm here at the Combine, And honestly, this is

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 5: my favorite event in the year. And the reason why

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01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 5: is because as a data scientist, it's my job to

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01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 5: gather data points and I'm able to get so many

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01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 5: good data points from analysts and agents and team guys

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01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 5: and et cetera, et cetera on this draft class.

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Speaker 9: I'm happy to talk about here.

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Speaker 2: How much should I care about ruben Bain's arm size?

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Speaker 5: So look, I mean there's like broad what I call

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01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 5: broadcast stats, like the first time since X and something

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01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 5: since why, Like I believe the statistic that's floating around

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01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 5: is that a.

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01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 9: Player with the arm length or below that arm lest.

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01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 5: Has not seen a ten ten stacked season in like

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01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 5: twenty years or something like that. That being said, you

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Speaker 5: look at his wingspan, it's actually not that bad. And

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Speaker 5: you try to consider what ruben Bain did and it

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01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 5: reminds me a lot of the Will Campbell stuff from

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01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: last year. And realistically, we're hard on Will Campbell because

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Speaker 5: of his performance in the Super Bowl, But who doesn't.

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01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 9: Look bad when Mike McDonald is scheming up against you?

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01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 5: And also Drake May himself is a high sack player

1092
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 5: and sometimes invites pressure by moving.

1093
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 9: Up in the pocket and dropping deep.

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Speaker 12: So there are elements of Will Campbell.

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Speaker 5: But I guarantee you if you go ask Mike Brabil

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Speaker 5: if he could have gotten quality start after quality start

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 5: out of Will Campbell, like he did for the majority

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Speaker 5: of this year. If he would still take him at three,

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Speaker 5: he would. And so I think there are certain players

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Speaker 5: that you just have to make you have to make

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 5: exceptions for, and in my opinion, that is Ruben Bain

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01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 5: because we see multiple blue chip analytical traits from him,

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Speaker 5: and typically that means that you're a pretty good prospect.

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Speaker 12: So if the.

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01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,479
Speaker 5: Arms aren't as long as they need to be, Bain

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01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 5: has clearly figured it out, operated around it, and succeeded

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01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 5: at the.

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Speaker 9: Power flove level. And so I think given.

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Speaker 5: That production profile, which is up there with the likes

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Speaker 5: of Aiden Hutchinson and others, I do think he's a

1111
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 5: top tier blue chip player in this draft.

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Speaker 2: You love data, and this week you can swim in

1113
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: all the data coming out of the combine. What data

1114
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: this week should I be paying attention to the most?

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01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, the reality of the situation is.

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 5: When you're looking at the actual athletic drills, which everyone

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 5: is watching right now and everyone will be watching throughout

1118
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 5: the weekend. If I had to rank it out of

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 5: ten how much I care, or rather how predictive it

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Speaker 5: is of future performance.

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Speaker 9: I'll rank it about a three of ten. Now, what

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Speaker 9: does that mean, it means. It means it is enough.

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Speaker 5: It's not a one or a zero. It's enough to

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 5: care about. But it's certainly a part of the puzzle,

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Speaker 5: and it's not a massive part of the puzzle. The

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Speaker 5: way I like to describe it is if you are

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Speaker 5: within a blue hip grade in a scouting system, which

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Speaker 5: basically means you expect a player to be a Pro

1129
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 5: Bowl or an All Pro, or looking at some of

1130
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 5: the other grades, you think that you could be a.

1131
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 9: Starter or a backup or something like that.

1132
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 5: You may move someone with the exact same grade up

1133
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 5: a spot on your big board because of his forty

1134
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 5: yard dash if you're a defensive end, for example, or

1135
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 5: because of his short shuttle, if you're a if you're

1136
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 5: an interier offensive line, and maybe you'll do that, but

1137
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 5: in reality it's still a three out of ten.

1138
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 9: That's my true belief.

1139
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 5: That's what the correlations show, and I think that is

1140
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Speaker 5: what you got to look at during the combine.

1141
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: At which position can the combine best predict future success

1142
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: for these guys?

1143
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so if you're looking at the maximum, So if

1144
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 5: you're looking at the forty yard dash, what can I

1145
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 5: most clean from that? That's little inside linebacker position. Problem

1146
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 5: is most of the other drills are pretty useless for

1147
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 5: inside backers. So if you're looking on average, it's the

1148
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 5: offensive line, and.

1149
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 9: Boy are we happy that it's the offensive.

1150
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 5: Line, because it's difficult to find other data points that

1151
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 5: can really help us. Historically, I'm talking going back twenty

1152
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 5: thirty years. Historically, it's hard to find other data points

1153
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 5: that can compare and contrast offensive linemen. So it's about

1154
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 5: a two point seven across all of offensive line metrics

1155
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 5: and particularly tackles. The adage from the scouting community draft

1156
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 5: athletic tackles does not come from nowhere. It actually shows

1157
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 5: up in that historical combine day to going back twenty

1158
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 5: or thirty years, it shows that when you get can

1159
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 5: get fast tackles than you can get tackles that can move,

1160
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 5: as evidenced by the athletic tests, it actually means something

1161
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 5: good or it can nudge you up in the big board,

1162
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: and it can predict slightly.

1163
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 9: It can be a part of your.

1164
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 12: Prediction for your performance at the next level.

1165
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: Sim Brookhouse from Sumer Sports is with us. The combine

1166
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis is happening right now. How often do you go,

1167
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, you and I talked. You were at the

1168
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl, right, So that's when you start to get

1169
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: a sense of you know, at which position is the

1170
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: class of players deep? At which position is there may

1171
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: be not as many high end prospects. How often do

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01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 2: you go into the combine thinking one thing about players

1173
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: at a certain position or maybe a class as a whole,

1174
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: and then come out of it feeling a different way.

1175
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 9: It happens quite a bit.

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 5: And again, like I'm a data scientist, I'm trying to

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01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 5: figure out the consensus and prove or disprove the consensus

1178
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 5: because that's what the wisdom of the crowd is and

1179
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 5: that's how data is best used. So I was coming

1180
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 5: into the combine thinking that this was a really good

1181
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 5: defensive tackle class. And they're on the field right now

1182
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: in Indy as I speak to you right now, Guys

1183
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 5: like Caleb Banks, guy like guys like Lee Hunter. Uh,

1184
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 5: there's a big kind of uh Kayla McDonald.

1185
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 12: Out of Ohio State.

1186
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 9: There's a big number and a big name.

1187
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 5: List of defensive tackles that I had in my mind

1188
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 5: that indicated that this was a really good defensive tackle

1189
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 5: class and people could find a position that it's rising

1190
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 5: in its premiership due to you know, the success of

1191
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 5: the Mike McDonald defense and the and the big Fangio

1192
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: defenses that like to drop a lot of guys back

1193
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 5: and utilize the defensive tackles to stuff to run on first.

1194
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 9: And second down.

1195
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think that is the consensus case anymore,

1196
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 5: and I'm interested to dive deeper into data to try

1197
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 5: to prove or disprove that. I was noticing that guys

1198
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 5: like Lee Hunter, for example, did not have great data profiles.

1199
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Speaker 5: But what I've kind of learned coming in and talking

1200
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 5: to multiple analysts and seeing their data and comparing it

1201
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 5: to what we have, or maybe it's some new pieces

1202
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 5: of data that some people thought to look into, it

1203
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 5: seems that this this could be a really good defensive

1204
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 5: tackle class, and it's a deep class. However, there's probably

1205
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 5: not any top fifteen level players, which means probably not

1206
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 5: any defensive tackles that will end up being all pros

1207
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 5: on average based on their prospect profile in this draft

1208
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 5: at all.

1209
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 9: And so what does that mean. There's gonna be a

1210
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,520
Speaker 9: lot of teams.

1211
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 5: That really struggle the stuff to run that are going

1212
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 5: to be lacking and betting that some of these guys

1213
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 5: that don't have as good of a profile can work

1214
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 5: out for them. That was a radically different thing than

1215
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 5: I thought was going to be the case coming in.

1216
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 9: And now that I've kind of.

1217
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 5: Seen the consensus and seen what the film guys think,

1218
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 5: I'm going to.

1219
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 9: Keep digging into this in the next couple of weeks.

1220
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll have an answer by the time we get

1221
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 5: to the Pro Days. But that was definitely something shocking

1222
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 5: to me and kind of changed my hypothesis about what

1223
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 5: this draft should be. And I'm getting ready to test

1224
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 5: that hypothesis once.

1225
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: I leave Indy. You know, I don't have many folks

1226
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: on this show who use the word hypothesis, which is

1227
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Speaker 2: why we call you, Sam. Let me ask you about downs.

1228
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 2: So when you just watch him on tape, and I've

1229
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: watched really smart people kind of point out some of

1230
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: the things he can do, it's I mean, you walk

1231
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: away from it going I'm not sure there's a better

1232
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: football player in this class. But he plays safety, right,

1233
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: so the question of positional value comes into play. We've

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: talked about him a lot here because the Bengals need

1235
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: safety help. If he's there at ten, there's going to

1236
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: be a lot of teams that decide, you know, we

1237
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: love him, but we're not going to take a safety

1238
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 2: in the top nine. Maybe the Bengals don't take a

1239
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: safety in the top ten. What does data tell you

1240
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: about a player like him when you go okay on film?

1241
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 2: He does all these things, but he plays a position

1242
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 2: that is not regarded as a premium position.

1243
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 5: So I think there's a couple things, and I'll start

1244
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 5: off with the premium position comment. I am a data scientist.

1245
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 5: My goal is to value these players, and as a result,

1246
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 5: I would really really struggle to take a safety, a

1247
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 5: running back, or an inside linebacker anywhere, definitely before pick fifteen,

1248
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 5: And in the case of running backs, I really wouldn't

1249
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 5: even do it in the first round. I'd start to

1250
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:08,480
Speaker 5: consider linebackers around maybe pick twenty.

1251
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 9: Pick twenty five.

1252
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 5: I'd start to consider safeties around pick fifteen. Now let's

1253
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 5: move on into the Caleb Downs discussion. Here's the guy

1254
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 5: who is positionally versatile, can basically do it all. Our

1255
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 5: scouts think that he potentially could even stretch out to cornerback.

1256
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 5: We don't have any data on that, but he has

1257
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 5: basically done it all and done it all well.

1258
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 9: Whether that was at Alabama or whether that was at

1259
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 9: Ohio State.

1260
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 5: So the data does like him. It thinks he's a

1261
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 5: quality college prospect. Let's go one step further. The consensus

1262
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 5: big board this year will likely settle with three players

1263
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 5: at the top who are all non premium positions.

1264
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 6: Number one.

1265
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 12: We've heard a lot of people that think it could

1266
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 12: be Caleb Downs.

1267
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 5: We think we've talked to a lot of people who

1268
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 5: think it could be Jeremiah Love.

1269
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 9: And then Sonny Styles seems to be I don't know

1270
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 9: if you can.

1271
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 12: Call him a riser, but as we kind.

1272
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: Of dust off the diamond here on the since this

1273
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 5: big board, it seems as if Sonny Styles could be

1274
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: in the consensus third best player at his position in

1275
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 5: this draft. Here's what people need to get out of

1276
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 5: their mind, though, And I really found this out this

1277
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 5: week and I double checked it with the data, and

1278
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 5: it turns out to be correct. People want to go

1279
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 5: get Nick him and worry. They want to go get

1280
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 5: Kyle Hamilton, they want to go get Derwin James. Because

1281
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,839
Speaker 5: there's three really really good defenses. And that's three defenses

1282
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 5: that have these kind of big nickel safeties that allow

1283
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 5: teams to play a nickel against.

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Speaker 9: Thirteen personnel or twelve personnel.

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Speaker 5: Caleb Downs is not that, and I think that's a

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Speaker 5: misconception that people really think that because he's positionally versatile,

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Speaker 5: he's going to be the type of run defender banger

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Speaker 5: that we've seen from those defenses.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that's the case.

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Speaker 5: I think a better comparable in terms of size that

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Speaker 5: I've heard is someone like Buddha Baker, a guy who

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Speaker 5: can make every tackle but isn't necessarily going to be

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Speaker 5: acting like a linebacker or an edge rusher anytime soon.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's the misconception with Caleb Downs. I

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Speaker 5: think that's the reason why we could see him fall

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Speaker 5: past five. But a lot of people seem to believe

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Speaker 5: that he's the best player at his position in this draft.

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Speaker 9: I for one of a positional value guy. Thus, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Really consider drafting him over an excellent EDG rusher, excellent

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 5: wide receiver, excellent tackle. If I were a general manager.

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Speaker 2: Well put, Sam, enjoy the combine, man, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, ell so much. That's our guy. Sam brouckowse

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Speaker 2: suomer Sports check out Summer Sports dot Com, s U

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Speaker 2: M R. Sam does a terrific job. Uses the word

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Speaker 2: hypothesis a lot. We appreciate his time. If Caleb Downs

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Speaker 2: is there at ten, I'm taking them. I've watched the

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Speaker 2: Bengals B and I don't have the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: numbers in front of me, but I watched them in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four B by far and away the worst

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL at giving up explosive plays. I

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Speaker 2: would imagine they're not that far removed from the bottom

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. I'm taking Caleb Downs thirteen away

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Speaker 2: from five o'clock. But I mean, that's it's it's a

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Speaker 2: very relevant discussion, right, There's a reason why it was.

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Speaker 2: Jamal Adams was the last safety go, the last safety

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Speaker 2: to go in the top eight. If I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 2: Like there's discussions about positional value that are there, and

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Speaker 2: they're fair and they're legitimate, and they don't just happen here.

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Speaker 2: Twelve away from five o'clock, five point three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: be the franchise's all time leader in points, is going

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Speaker 2: to join us at five point twenty on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: So it's eight to three over the San Diego Padres.

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Speaker 2: They're playing today in in in Goodyear. No music, taren,

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Speaker 2: We're a music free show. Now what do we do?

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Speaker 2: We get ding for copyright infringement to b M. I

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Speaker 2: ask Cap what happened?

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Speaker 1: I was trying to find some Bruno Mars because if

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, if you're aware of Bruno Mars is

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Speaker 1: taking over iHeart tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, I got the email. So what

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Speaker 2: does that mean for us? Is Bruno Mars is going

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Speaker 2: to be doing sports talk on this station later.

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Speaker 1: Tonight, maybe anything to promote his new album, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know the name of.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it's great though. And Bruno Mars will

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: be taking over iHeart tonight. So like when you oh,

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: so when you say taking over iHeart, Like he's just

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: gonna be on a on a channel or something. It's

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01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: gonna be on a station, seven stations, on multiple stations.

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Speaker 2: Will he be on this one?

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Speaker 1: Maybe find out tonight at at an IPM.

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Speaker 2: Find out tonight at nine o'clock. We don't have any

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Speaker 2: live games or anything. Correct, No, kay, there's no Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: not playing FC Cincinnati's not playing well. The Reds are

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01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: beating the Padres. They have scored six times and they're

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: still batting in the bottom of the fifth inning. Dane

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Speaker 2: Myers has just doubled in a run Noelve. Marte scoring

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01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: uh Noelve, has had a three RBI day. Will Benson's

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: been on base a couple of times and scored twice.

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: Spencer Steer has been on base three times and he

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Speaker 2: has scored twice. Ellie Dela Cruz has driven in two runs.

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Speaker 2: He has two hits, including a triple, also has to

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Speaker 2: double the triple. By the way, the Red showed a

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01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: highlight of and watching Ellie Dela Cruz go from home

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: to third is always a lot of fun. Nine to three.

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Speaker 2: They've played five innings. It's an official game. It's an

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Speaker 2: official game that doesn't count Radsley the Padres nine to three.

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Speaker 2: As San Diego gets set to come to the plate.

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Speaker 2: In the top of the sixth inning, Manny Machado hit

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 2: a home run for San Diego. We were talking before

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: about Jordan Battle. Al Golden had a bunch of really

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: nice things to say yesterday at the Combine about Jordan

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Speaker 2: Battle and talked about how he's just now scratching the surface.

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Speaker 2: Let's put a good group around him, and that's where

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01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: the force the force multiplier term comes in, right. I

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: guess there's room for multiple truths. We say this all

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Speaker 2: the time. Jordan Battle last year did some really nice

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Speaker 2: things and did some things that would make you believe

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Speaker 2: like that's a guy who can be a part of

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: the team moving forward. I think what would be awesome

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: would be if Jordan Battle were in a safety mix

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01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: that included maybe drafting the best guy available and signing

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 2: a starting caliber player in free agency. And then giving

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01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: Al Golden Moore Pols more toys to play with at

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: the safety spot. But I kind of felt like when

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01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: last season ended, there was a real consensus belief that

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: Jordan Battle had finally played at a level that enabled

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Speaker 2: him to kind of move into that, you know, foundational

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Speaker 2: piece group moving forward. I don't know that having Jordan

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: Battle on your team should preclude you from taking the

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: best safety available if Caleb Downs is there at number ten.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that Jordan Battle should preclude you from

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Speaker 2: finding better players in free agency. But it's okay. It's

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Speaker 2: okay to have more than two safeties. I know we

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in recent years, even when

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: the Bengals have been really good at safety, watching them

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Speaker 2: basically just use two guys. But I don't know that

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01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: the endorsement of Jordan Battle was misplaced, Like, yeah, okay,

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: your last year, and trust me, I think anybody could

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01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: play safety look better when you're playing next to Gino Stone.

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01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe you take what he did last

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01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: season with a grain of salt. But I don't know

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01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: that anybody who watched last season thought by the end

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 2: of the year like it's time to move on from

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: Jordan Battle. That's a guy who looks like he should

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01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: be a part of the solution moving forward. But if

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Speaker 2: it's we're not gonna take Caleb downs because we have

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: Jordan Battle, I don't know that that's necessarily the proper strategy. Again,

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Speaker 2: there are very good conversations about whether or not he's there,

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01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: about if he's also there with Ruben Bain, about what

1414
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: other options are available at safety? Do you really take

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01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 2: a safety with a tenth overall pick? Can you maybe

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01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: take him a little bit later? But like the Jordan

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Speaker 2: Battle pushback that was online yesterday, First of all, it's online,

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 2: so there's pushback to everything, like there's online the puppies

1419
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Speaker 2: and pancakes on social media, So do what you want

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Speaker 2: with that. But I thought he played at a level

1421
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 2: last year that made you feel like he can be

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01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 2: one of those pieces moving forward. They need more And

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: I think that was also the crux of what al

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: Golden had to say yesterday. But there was something to

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01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: like about the way Jordan Battle played last season. The

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: question is a can he do better? Be what else

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: do they do with him at that particular position. Five

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our phone number. That's all right, Well,

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: we'll listen to the Bruno Mars promo coming up after

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Speaker 2: the top of the ave. We'll tease that it's coming

1431
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Speaker 2: up on five o'clock. What's that five o'clock on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 13: Looking for the best in Flag thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 2: Nobody covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty. We've got

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Speaker 2: good guests from the Combine this week now, not as

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Speaker 2: good as if we would have broadcast from the Combine,

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: which is my goal for next year. We will see

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01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: we've had good guests on from the Combine. By the way,

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01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: I just saw this headline. And when I say I

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01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: just saw the headline, I acknowledge I have not yet

1441
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 2: had time to click on the link to read the

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Speaker 2: But the Bengals have met with Dante Corleone, the Godfather,

1443
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: who last year was really interesting. We all loved Dante

1444
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 2: Corleone last year. You know, two years ago he was

1445
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 2: coming off the blood clot which completely destroyed his offseason

1446
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: and impacted, by his own admission, his conditioning and his

1447
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: preparedness for the twenty twenty four season. This past year,

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01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: he had a quote normal offseason. It was weird, how

1449
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: they used him. It was weird how he was often

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01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent, and when he's healthy and available,

1451
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 2: that defense was entirely different than when he wasn't on

1452
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 2: the field. He just wasn't on the field as much

1453
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: as I think he would have liked and as much

1454
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 2: as as a as a UC fan, I would have

1455
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: liked that, and I would imagine most Bearcad fans would agree.

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Speaker 2: So his what happens with him at the next level

1457
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: unroot like hell for that dude. But what happens with

1458
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: him at the next level I think is going to

1459
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: be interesting to pay attention to. The Bengals have at

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Speaker 2: least met with him. We're gonna chat with Cyclones legend

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Speaker 2: Justin Vive coming up in just about fifteen minutes. Reds

1462
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: are playing this afternoon high scoring game against the Padres

1463
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: nine to five during Goodyear Today, top of the sixth inning,

1464
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: San Diego is batting, Cincinnati scored six times. In the

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: bottom of the fifth inning, Ellie Dela Cruz has doubled

1466
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: and tripled. Chase Burns pitch today went two and a third,

1467
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: struggled with his control a bit, walked to had a

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Speaker 2: while pitch gave up a couple of hits also struck

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Speaker 2: out five. Tarn wants to do this, and so we'll

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Speaker 2: do this and then we'll move on. But I believe

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Speaker 2: we will have fulfilled our obligation to mention this. So

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Speaker 2: Bruno Omars is gonna be previewing his album tonight on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's Romantic Radio with brune O Mars. It's happening tonight

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Speaker 2: at nine o'clock and it's gonna be on TikTok Live

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Speaker 2: and it's gonna be on iHeart Radio. And The Romantic,

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Speaker 2: which is the name of the album, is out tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: which is the twenty seventh, And if you want to

1478
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 2: catch this on TikTok, you can do that Romantic Radio

1479
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: with Bruno Mars. Tarn wanted to play the Bruno Mars promo.

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01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 2: I have not heard this here. It is the good

1481
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 2: and beautiful people.

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Speaker 14: It is Bruno Mars, excited to tell you that my

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01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 14: new album, The Romantic is dropping real soon. As a

1484
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 14: matter of fact, I got my own little radio station

1485
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 14: where you can join me on TikTok and I February

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Speaker 14: twenty six it's a celebration to call in and make

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Speaker 14: a dedication to the into Romantic Radio with me, Bruno Mars.

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Speaker 2: What was that? Can I hear it one more time?

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Speaker 12: Tarren?

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Speaker 2: Is this gonna be on Kiss one of tonight? They're

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01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: putting this on Kiss one and seven. I mean, Bruno Mars,

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Speaker 2: that would be the that would fit their format nine

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Speaker 2: following this on TikTok. Let me let me hear the

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Speaker 1: No please don't and don't want to do that. I

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati and uh, he's gonna have to fuck over a

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Speaker 2: that I could could pull that off. That's why Bruno

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Speaker 2: who I am. Like I don't I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I I don't know that I could channel the same

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Speaker 2: energy if I go, hey man, the combine is happening.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, the combine has happened right now in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Bains got those small arms, baby, But man, I

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Speaker 2: tell you what. You watch them on tape and the

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Speaker 2: guy can get after the quarterback like I am, I am,

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm willing to do this in an effort

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Speaker 2: to promote Bruno Mars in romantic an ad workout here.

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Speaker 2: just heard there from brun Omar was like a thirty

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Speaker 2: second promo. And you know, we've been asked to promote this,

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Speaker 2: and let's be honest. You know, we don't do a

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Speaker 2: lot of Bruno Mars. We don't do a lot, we

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Speaker 2: don't do a lot of music on this show. It's

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Speaker 2: an AM sports talk radio show. But perhaps in an

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Speaker 2: effort to uh to talk about Bruno Mars, we talk

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Speaker 2: like Bruno Mars as we put forth the the sports

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Speaker 2: talk radio. Now when we interview Justin Vive of the Cyclones,

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Speaker 2: who is a point away from being the Cyclones all

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Speaker 2: time leader in point score. This guy's a legend. He's

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Speaker 2: played in a billion games for the Cyclones and they're

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Speaker 2: wearing their Skyline three way jerseys on Saturday. Do you

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Speaker 2: think Justin Vive will be weirded out if when he

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Speaker 2: joins the show and we put the phone call on

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Speaker 2: the air, I say to him, Justin Vive, you beautiful

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Speaker 2: hockey player. You about to score that big goal and

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Speaker 2: be the all time leading points? Is it points score

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Speaker 2: in hockey because you get a point for getting an assist?

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Speaker 2: Justin Vive, Baby, You've been with the Cyclones for years,

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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what. The Cyclones have a kind

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Speaker 2: of an up and down season again. I I sort

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Speaker 2: of feel like I'm morphing into a bad version of

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Speaker 2: Dusty Rhodes. Don't do that, I don't know. Don't that

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Speaker 2: a guest, I don't know. Don't do that with guests.

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Speaker 2: Just do it when I'm like talking. What about when

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Speaker 2: we take calls? I'm sure, I'm sure? Now can we

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Speaker 2: get the people on hold to talk the same way

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Speaker 2: that Bruno mars Jess was like, I know Mike is

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Speaker 2: on hold, and uh because he calls every day and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have time for him. One might argue,

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Speaker 2: we should talk to him right now. But when we

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Speaker 2: put Mike on the air, do you think Mike will

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Speaker 2: react well? If I put him on a go Mike, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you beautiful sports talk radio collar. It is awesome to

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Speaker 2: hear from you. What do you want to say about

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Speaker 2: we've overdone this bit quite frankly, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: another fifty minutes of it is sustainable. But make sure

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Speaker 2: you check out Bruno Mar's Romantic Radio tonight across a

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Speaker 2: number of different iHeart Radio stations and on TikTok. And

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this. You try to keep me

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Speaker 2: away from TikTok when I'm in my free time. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's Twitter's fun, but I'm a bit I have a

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Speaker 2: burner TikTok account and I don't use my real name.

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Speaker 2: I'm just tiktoking all over the place. And I'll be

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Speaker 2: watching Bruno Tonight Romantic Radio at nine pm. And if

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Speaker 2: you can't find it on TikTok, then I'm sure on

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Speaker 2: your favorite Romantic radio iHeart radio station. That was not

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Speaker 2: a part of the show that we planned before three o'clock.

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Speaker 6: That wut there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you someone, I'm gonna be having it

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Speaker 2: and win. In a marcan we could pull out the

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Speaker 2: stuff that was actually good. And you know what you

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Speaker 2: gotta do to one of Marconi is you have to

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Speaker 2: nominate yourself. Uh. I don't know if we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: doing that. Twelve after five o'clock, ESPN fifteen thirty. Reuben

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Speaker 2: Bain has historically short arms.

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Speaker 4: And like this is.

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Speaker 2: You don't ignore it, right, It is a measurable that

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01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: they chart at the combine for a reason. Somebody is

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Speaker 2: interested in that data. Somebody, let's say it's about the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Somebody in that room, even though the Bengals don't have

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Speaker 2: as many people in the room as other teams, somebody

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01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: in that room will be tasked with talking about and

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Speaker 2: maybe making the case for leaning into his arm size

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Speaker 2: as a reason to not draft him. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals aren't picking first or third or fifth, and

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01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: who knows, Man, the dude may be gone by the

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Speaker 2: time the Bengals go on the clock. Bengals may have

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01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: a dress pass rush. But like, you can't help but

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01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 2: talk about him in relation to the Bengals because the

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01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Bengals told us to Duke Tobin when he said pass

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01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 2: rush is king, I think dramatically sent the offseason conversation

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01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: toward a very specific direction. How do they get better

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01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: at getting after the quarterback? Now that's gonna happen with

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01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: internal options. It's impossible to imagine the Bengals pass rush

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01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 2: being better in twenty twenty six if Miles Murphy doesn't

1616
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 2: continue his ascension. And one of the cool stories in

1617
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: the second half of the season was felt like the

1618
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: light bulb came on with Miles Murphy. It is really

1619
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 2: hard to imagine the pass rush getting dramatically better if

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01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart isn't at least on the field and hopefully productive.

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01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 2: And then it's you know, you talk about free agency.

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01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 2: They need they need inside pass rush help. They are

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01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: going to be able to They're gonna need an outside

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01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 2: pass rush out. It's hard to imagine the Bengals pass

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01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 2: rush being dramatically better, being king if you will, if

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01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: they don't address it in a free agency. But if

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01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 2: you're the team that's replacing Trey Hendrickson and the team

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01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 2: that's needed an upgrade at getting after the quarterback for

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01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: a while now, going back to when they took Miles Murphy,

1630
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 2: and this dude's available and nine teams have passed on him.

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01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: How do you not at least talk about drafting Reuben Bain.

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01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: What's interesting about the Bengals is they're the team that

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01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 2: has kind of prioritized traits. Now, it is an oversimplification

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01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: to say that Shamar Stewart didn't produce in college because

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01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 2: he was disruptive. Like he did wreak some havoc. He

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01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: constantly beat his blocker. He was disruptive, and disruptions are

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01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: not insignificant. They can translate to the NFL. If you

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01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 2: got an edge who's disruptive, good things are gonna happen,

1639
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: even if he's not finishing plays. But I do think

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01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 2: there's like a baseline number of sacks you are looking

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01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: for and jam or Jamar Shamar Stewart did not post

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01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: that number of sacks either in his last year at

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01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: Texas A and M or over the course of his

1644
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 2: entire college football career. But the Bengals still took him.

1645
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 2: Why because they loved the measurables. They leaned on the measurables.

1646
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 2: They prioritize the measurables. Does that work in the opposite direction.

1647
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,759
Speaker 2: When it comes to a guy like Ruben Bain, Hey, look, man,

1648
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: we see what he does on tape twenty and a

1649
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 2: half sacks in his college career, nine and a half

1650
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: last season in the National Title game, he was I

1651
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 2: thought at times he was the best player on the field.

1652
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 2: He was awesome. I don't know if you root for

1653
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: an NFL team that needs a better pass rush, I

1654
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: don't know how he'll watch that game against against Indiana

1655
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: and didn't think about what that dude would look like

1656
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 2: in your team's uniform, which for us as the Bengals,

1657
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: So is it like the opposite this year where they go, God,

1658
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 2: you know what, look at the film, Look at what

1659
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: he does. He sack in the quarter, he's making plays

1660
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: against the run, he's disruptive. Hell, he had a pick

1661
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, but you know what, short arms. I

1662
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: don't know that any of us have the answer. We

1663
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: may have what we would want the answer to be,

1664
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: which for me, it's just watch the tape. Dude, dude

1665
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: can play. He had short arms in college, played at

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01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: a really high level. And if it's not Ruben Bain

1667
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 2: and you still need an edge rusher in the draft, cool,

1668
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 2: then who you're gonna get When are you gonna get him?

1669
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: That's also a part of this. But what makes the

1670
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 2: Bengals really interesting is they're the team that in the

1671
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 2: first round last year raised eyebrows taking a guy who

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01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: wasn't that productive because they loved the measurable. The opposite

1673
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: is a dude on tape is doing everything you could

1674
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 2: ever ask. But there's this one measurable to not like

1675
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 2: does that compel them to not take him? And if

1676
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: they don't, and if he ends up being as good

1677
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 2: as a lot of people think he can be a

1678
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 2: what will they have done in lieu of taking Rubin

1679
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: Bain two? How bad are they gonna look if he

1680
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: ends up being as good at the next level as

1681
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 2: he was in Miami despite having short arms. For me

1682
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 2: and I think for a lot of us, it's just

1683
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 2: put the tape on dudes making football plays. He'll figure

1684
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 2: it out. None of us are dismissing what short arms

1685
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: can mean for an edge guy. None of us are

1686
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: dismissing the metric itself. And by the way, it's only one, like,

1687
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: there's other things you're gonna look at. But will the

1688
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 2: Bengals do what they did with Schamar Stewart last year,

1689
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: but in a bizarro world, Shamar Stewart didn't put as

1690
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 2: much on tape as many would like. Bengals were cool

1691
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 2: with have taken them because boy, the the tape measure

1692
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 2: stuff looked really good. The tape measure thing. It's one

1693
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: thing with Ruben Bain doesn't look nearly as good. If

1694
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 2: he's there, big if will they not take him despite

1695
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: what he put on film. Eighteen minutes after five o'clock,

1696
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 2: Skyline three Way Jerseys at the Cyclone game Cyclones game

1697
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Justin five is a Cyclones eleven eleven legend.

1698
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 2: Suddenly I started talking like Bruno Mars and now I

1699
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: can't even talk like me. Justin Viive is a Cyclones

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01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 2: legend and is about to become the all time leading

1701
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 2: points scorer, not the all time leading goal scorer points

1702
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: score in Cyclones history, and he joins us. Next on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 13: This report is sponsored by All Stay.

1715
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 2: Saturday for a game against Kalamazoo. They're actually home on

1716
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Sunday as well for a matine game. It's Saturday, it's

1717
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati three Ways Night where the Cyclones aren't the Cyclones

1718
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 2: for a night. Instead, they are three Ways. They're wearing

1719
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 2: Skyline inspired Cincinnati three Ways Jersey and Justin Vive is

1720
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 2: with us. I'm told he is the Cyclones residence Skyline expert,

1721
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: which makes sense given the fact that he went to

1722
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 2: school in the area. Kind enough to join us. By

1723
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 2: the way, he is currently tied for the all time

1724
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 2: points record for the Cincinnati Cyclones, so if he gets

1725
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: a point this weekend, he'll be the franchisees all time leader.

1726
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 2: You may see history if you go to the game

1727
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 2: on a Saturday night. Justin, it's awesome to have you

1728
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 2: how are you.

1729
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 8: I'm just excited for help through the big turnout here

1730
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 8: on Saturday and just the all around kind of cool event,

1731
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 8: cool jerseys.

1732
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: When players join the Cyclones, what do you tell them

1733
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: about going to Skyline?

1734
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 8: I think the first thing I always say is, you

1735
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 8: just got to go in with an open mind. I mean,

1736
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 8: there's guys from all over the country, all over the world,

1737
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 8: and when some people here at chili and you know,

1738
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 8: spaghetti and cheese, it kind of sends them the wrong message.

1739
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 6: But I just you got to go in.

1740
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 8: You gotta sit down, order a bunch of options and

1741
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 8: kind of just give it a go. And I would say,

1742
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 8: you know, a good percentage of the time, the guys

1743
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 8: come back the next day in the locker room and

1744
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 8: they're actually pleasantly surprised.

1745
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what real leadership in the locker room

1746
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 2: is all about. You know, the guy who's been here

1747
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 2: for a while, who knows where to go get making

1748
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: sure the guys go to skyline and have a great experience.

1749
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: More than anything you do on the ice, this is pivotal.

1750
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:49,919
Speaker 6: I would say so myself.

1751
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 8: I mean I got kind of turned onto it early

1752
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 8: on here and ever since I've been a massive supporter,

1753
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 8: and you know, I'm just pumped out we're partnering with

1754
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 8: them again for another jersey.

1755
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 2: No, it's cool. The jerseys are are terrific.

1756
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 6: You.

1757
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Earlier this year we had you on when you you

1758
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,560
Speaker 2: played in your five hundredth game as a member of

1759
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Cyclones. You are a point away from becoming

1760
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 2: the franchise's all time leader endpoints. What will that record

1761
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 2: mean to you?

1762
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 8: Kind of along though, the same line as the last

1763
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 8: time we chatted, I actually didn't really know where I fell,

1764
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 8: like in the order of things, just because it's a

1765
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 8: bit confusing with all the different kind of leagues and

1766
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 8: the different franchises moving to different cities and.

1767
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 6: Stuff like that.

1768
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 8: But Rudy actually kind of told me last week that

1769
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 8: I was two back, and I was able to get

1770
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 8: a point this past weekend, so.

1771
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 6: Now it's one back.

1772
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 8: But no, it's I mean, another kind of awesome milestone

1773
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 8: to look back on and kind of, you know, reflect

1774
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 8: on an awesome career here in Cincy and the place

1775
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 8: that I've spent the majority of my time and you know,

1776
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 8: all placed obviously that will probably be home for the

1777
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 8: remainder of my career for sure. And probably well on

1778
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 8: into my kids future.

1779
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: You joined me, as I mentioned when you became, you know,

1780
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 2: you played in your five hundredth game and there was

1781
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 2: a very brief workstoppage in the EHL, And I've been

1782
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 2: thinking a lot about the schedule, so I want you

1783
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 2: to kind of take me into inside this weekend. So

1784
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: you guys play a game match, you play a game

1785
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 2: on Friday at Fort Wayne. You're then going to come

1786
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 2: back and play the Cincinnati three Ways night on Saturday.

1787
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: Then you'll have a day game at three o'clock game,

1788
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 2: but a day game against Kalamazoo on Sunday. What are

1789
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 2: these weekends like when you're playing three games in two

1790
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 2: cities in less than forty eight hours.

1791
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 8: The easy answer probably just a blur, you know, And

1792
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 8: I mean with the game last night too. When you

1793
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 8: play on a Wednesday at really adds a wrinkle to

1794
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 8: the week because usually you can kind of rest up

1795
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,919
Speaker 8: and gear up kind of like a full week to prepare.

1796
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 8: When you play Wednesday, it's kind of it's just it's

1797
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 8: a lot of balance. You know, guys played last night

1798
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 8: and then today's more of like an optional recovery day,

1799
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 8: and then you know you're in four Wayne Friday, get

1800
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 8: back late two three a m. Saturday, turn around play

1801
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 8: Saturday night, and then the Sunday one that is usually

1802
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 8: the one where you know, the word the blur comes

1803
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 8: into it, saying, oh, you're kind of sleep deprived, you're sore,

1804
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 8: you know, obviously tired, and but at the same time,

1805
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 8: it's you know, those are the games at the end

1806
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 8: of the year that you know, if you miss the

1807
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 8: playoffs by two, four, six points, whatever it is, you

1808
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 8: know you kind of look back to those those kind

1809
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 8: of sleepy Sunday games where you're like, oh, man, I

1810
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 8: really you know, I wish we brought it a little

1811
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 8: more on that Sunday. We could have stolen one here

1812
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 8: or there. And you know, it's the difference at the end.

1813
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: Of the year is for the young guys who are

1814
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 2: just getting their first taste of pro hockey, Is this

1815
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 2: the time of year that can be most difficult where

1816
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 2: you guys have been added for months and yet that

1817
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 2: light at the end of the tunnel is still way

1818
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 2: in the distance. Is this is this the hardest time

1819
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 2: of year to make the adjustment for those young guys

1820
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 2: just getting used to pro hockey. In the schedule, one

1821
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

1822
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 8: I say every year, like the dog days between kind

1823
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 8: of mid February to mid March are also, I say,

1824
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 8: is kind of when seasons are you know, a lot

1825
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 8: of times one or loss. You know, you're sometimes you're

1826
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 8: a few points in kind of with teams chasing you,

1827
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 8: or you're a few points out team like you're trying

1828
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 8: to chase teams. So it's kind of that really kind

1829
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 8: of moving in the standing time. But also a lot

1830
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 8: of these guys played college hockey, so they're you know,

1831
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 8: they only played thirty five forty games max, and we

1832
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 8: just kind of hit that mark a few weeks ago,

1833
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,919
Speaker 8: so they're not really been used to playing this many games.

1834
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 8: So that's definitely the biggest adjustment too.

1835
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,759
Speaker 2: How much Olympic hockey did you get to watch?

1836
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 6: Quite a bit?

1837
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 8: Actually, I watched basically all the knockout round and then

1838
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 8: I was able to watch the majority of the US

1839
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,560
Speaker 8: and Canada's all their round robin games.

1840
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 2: Are you able to watch those games purely for enjoyment

1841
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 2: as a fan or you like, are you putting yourself

1842
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 2: on the ice? Are you watching it like a coach? Like?

1843
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: How do you consume those games?

1844
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 8: I would say a little bit of kind of comparing, contrasting,

1845
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 8: kind of studying, taking some.

1846
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 6: Notes or whatever.

1847
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 8: But for the most part, a lot is for enjoyment.

1848
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1849
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 8: It's such a kind of rare thing nowadays with them

1850
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 8: not going to a few Olympics and stuff. It's just

1851
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,759
Speaker 8: kind of the ability to sit back and see best

1852
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 8: on best is just so cool and just so fun

1853
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 8: for obviously people that have grown up loving hockey, like

1854
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 8: most Canadians, so it's really cool thing just to be

1855
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 8: able to sit there and watch. I guess I'm a

1856
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 8: little new unique since I'm a dual citizen, so I'm

1857
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 8: kind of neutral when it came to the gold medal game.

1858
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:14,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you had no rooting interest on Sunday morning.

1859
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 8: Ah, Honestly, like so many people ask me, I now, officially,

1860
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,839
Speaker 8: I think spent exactly half my life in both country,

1861
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 8: so right, I mean, And so that's kind.

1862
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 6: Of a toss up.

1863
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 8: I guess technically, since I've played for Team USA in

1864
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 8: the Junior World Championships and stuff like that, I leaned

1865
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 8: towards the US when it comes internationally, but not by much.

1866
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 2: What can an event like that, because I don't care

1867
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 2: which country you were rooting for obviously here we were

1868
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,719
Speaker 2: rooting for the United States. It was just an awesome

1869
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 2: sporting event, right, it was. It was great hockey. Folks

1870
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 2: who typically don't watch a lot of hockey were like

1871
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 2: completely invested. Can what can the game like that? What

1872
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 2: can an event like that won by the United States?

1873
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 2: What can that mean for hockey in this country?

1874
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 6: Oh?

1875
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 8: I mean it's massive, Like just I would say, with

1876
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 8: the women doing what they did through the tournament and

1877
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 8: just dismantling basically every team they played, and then the

1878
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 8: men come up and you know, some tougher, hard fought games,

1879
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 8: but at the end of the day they also bring

1880
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 8: a gold back. It's like I feel like anytime I

1881
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 8: picked my phone up or turn on the TV for

1882
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 8: the last week, it's something about the gold medal hockey

1883
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 8: teams and just the US is so massive and so

1884
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 8: many kids watching all that stuff that. I mean, it

1885
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 8: kind of that's how Canada got as big as they

1886
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 8: are with hockey. Is you know, growing up, it was

1887
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 8: just every four years and it's gonna win gold. They're

1888
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 8: gonna have a good shot at it, whatever it is.

1889
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 8: It's just that's how you kind of grow up and

1890
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 8: you know, hopefully a lot of kids were watching those games,

1891
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 8: and you know, stick with it, and you know, hockey

1892
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 8: just continues to grow and produce more and more talent,

1893
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 8: and you know, the game just keeps getting better and better.

1894
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,520
Speaker 2: You're a Miami University guy, do you follow the basketball

1895
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 2: team at all?

1896
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 8: I got to come clean. I haven't up until this year.

1897
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 8: It's kind of hard not to because they are on fire.

1898
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 8: And you know, anytime any team from Miami goes on

1899
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 8: an historic run like that, regardless of the sport, I

1900
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 8: feel like, as an alumni that played any other sport,

1901
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 8: you're gonna, you know, take notice and kind of cheer

1902
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 8: it on.

1903
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 6: It's just really cool to watch.

1904
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody who loves aside for myself, I

1905
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,679
Speaker 2: don't know anybody who loves Skyline Chili more than Travis Steele,

1906
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 2: the basketball coach at Miami. So when this season ends,

1907
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 2: for you and for him, you guys got to have

1908
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 2: like a Skyline sit down and talk all things RedHawks

1909
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 2: basketball and hockey.

1910
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 8: Okay, I would one hundred percent be down. I'd even

1911
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 8: bring him one of the three way jerseys from this

1912
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 8: weekend if he wants it.

1913
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, Well, if he says no, I'll take it.

1914
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Speaker 2: But that's okay. I mean, you know whatever, We'll figure

1915
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Speaker 2: out a way to make that work. Justin congratulations in

1916
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 2: advance on becoming the leading point score in Cyclones history.

1917
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Speaker 2: Have a good weekend, best of luck the rest of

1918
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Speaker 2: the season, and enjoy Cincinnati Three Ways Night on Saturday.

1919
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

1920
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Speaker 6: Awesome.

1921
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Speaker 8: Always a blast coming on, boh. I appreciate it.

1922
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Speaker 2: You got it. You're the man that's Justin Vive who

1923
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: are earlier this year played in his five hundredth career

1924
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Speaker 2: game as a member of the Cyclones and they're on

1925
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 2: the road at Fort Wayne on Friday, then home on

1926
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Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday. Saturday is Cincinnati Three Ways Night, where

1927
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 2: for an evening the Cyclones become the Three Ways. The

1928
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 2: jerseys are awesome. I love Travis Steele. If he gets

1929
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: a jersey before I do, I'm going to be upset.

1930
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Speaker 2: Puck drops on Saturday night at seven thirty. Tickets are

1931
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 2: available at cyclone Hockey dot com. It is twenty six

1932
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 2: away from six o'clock. By the way, Graham Ashcraft like

1933
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 2: completely imploded and gave up six runs to the San

1934
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 2: Diego Padres. Hopefully this is one of those where you

1935
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 2: just go, Ah, you know what, it's spring, No big deal.

1936
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Six runs in a third of an inning. Graham Ashcraft

1937
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 2: Spring era is forty to fifty. Not good, but the

1938
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 2: Reds did retake the lead. It's a ten to nine

1939
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 2: in favor of Cincinnati in goodyear. Taken on the padres

1940
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 2: this afternoon twenty five from six o'clock. We'll grab some

1941
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Speaker 2: phone calls unless Taren wants me to do more. Bruno mars,

1942
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but we'll take some phone calls on

1943
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1944
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1945
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1946
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1947
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1950
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1955
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1956
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1957
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1958
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1959
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1960
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Speaker 3: Thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

1961
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Speaker 2: Sports headlines are a service? What are we doing now?

1962
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1963
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:52,320
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1964
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1965
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1966
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Speaker 2: Also maybe sponsoring romantic radio on iHeartRadio tonight at nine pm.

1967
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: My voice hurts when I do that. This Reds Padres

1968
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 2: game is like never gonna end. During the bottom of

1969
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 2: the seventh inning by them. Sure the players are delighted.

1970
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 2: It's ten to nine, the Reds lead. Here's the good

1971
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 2: stuff that happened in this game. Ellie deler Cruz had

1972
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 2: a double and a triple and he drove in a

1973
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 2: couple of runs. Spencer Steer reached base three times and

1974
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 2: scored twice. What else? Noelve Marte drove in three runs.

1975
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 2: Tyler Callahan hit a home run, Will Banfield cleared the

1976
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 2: bases with a double. Chase Burns went two and a

1977
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 2: third and gave up a run, struck out five. Here's

1978
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 2: the bad. Nick Sando, whose work I'm not all that

1979
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 2: familiar with, gave up two runs in two thirds of

1980
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,879
Speaker 2: an inning. He was one of the nasty boys compared

1981
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 2: to Graham Ashcraft, who gave up six runs, all earned,

1982
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,680
Speaker 2: in one third of an inning. But the Reds do

1983
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 2: lead the game ten to nine as they bat in

1984
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 2: the bottom of the seventh inning. What else do we

1985
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: have for sports headlines? Got Blue Jackets are back in

1986
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:16,959
Speaker 2: action tonight in Boston. Coming off the Olympic break. Columbus

1987
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: had won ten out of eleven before everybody in the

1988
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 2: NHL had to take a break. We were talking before

1989
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 2: about the Steelers poor ranking in the NFLPA report cards,

1990
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 2: which they've not publicized but which have leaked. Here are

1991
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 2: the grades the NFLPA grades the Bengals have gotten. I

1992
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 2: got this off the Twitter feed of Andrew fox Miller,

1993
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 2: who does a great job with James Rapine on Cincinnati

1994
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 2: Bengals talk. All right, here we go, I'll run them

1995
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 2: down for you, and I'm just I'm reading them in

1996
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 2: order that they're listed here. Treatment of families F minus

1997
01:49:54,680 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 2: home game field D minus. Food and dining area F minus.

1998
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 2: How bad must that be? There are? And I'm not

1999
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,440
Speaker 2: going to mention what they are. There are two national

2000
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 2: chain restaurants that I will not eat at. One that

2001
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: I haven't eaten at in twenty nine years. The other

2002
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 2: I haven't eaten at in maybe like twenty one, twenty two,

2003
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 2: twenty three years. I will not eat at now. If

2004
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 2: I was forced to, I would. I don't know why

2005
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 2: I would be forced to. But as bad as they are,

2006
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna mention them, don't ask, I still

2007
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't give them F minuses. Like F minuses, if you

2008
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 2: eat the food, it's gonna kill you food, and it's

2009
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 2: food and dining areas, so maybe it's not just like

2010
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 2: the taste of the food. F minus nutrition is dietitian

2011
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 2: F Locker room A minus training room A minus training

2012
01:50:56,520 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 2: staff A minus weight room A minus strength coaches A

2013
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 2: position coaches B minus. Offensive coordinator A minus not insignificant,

2014
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator B plus not insignificant. Special teams coordinator B

2015
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 2: plus team travel C minus head coach not insignificant, A

2016
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 2: minus general manager C team ownership D plus team ownership

2017
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 2: is Andrew points out in his tweet was a C

2018
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: in last year's grade, and this year it's a D plus.

2019
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Speaker 2: So some good and some awful for the Bengals, but

2020
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers were worse. So we have that Bengals got

2021
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 2: a better NFLPA report guard than the Steelers. Uh what

2022
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: do we have? Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty.

2023
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 2: I guess I mentioned before he was waiting on hold.

2024
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Speaker 2: It would be rather mean of me than not take

2025
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Speaker 2: a phone call.

2026
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Speaker 5: Mike.

2027
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, You're on ESPM fifteen thirty.

2028
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Speaker 6: Thanks.

2029
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Speaker 15: I got a little nosebleed now.

2030
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Speaker 16: It kind of breaks me out a little bit.

2031
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Speaker 6: Uh, anyway, do you think.

2032
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 2: It would be prudent to go ahead and then you're

2033
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 2: You're welcome? But do you think it would be prudent

2034
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 2: to address the nosebleed instead of talking about sports on

2035
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 2: the radio?

2036
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, it can wait for a few minutes.

2037
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Speaker 6: Okay, listen, cowboy, after what I've done through.

2038
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Speaker 2: Nosebleed is no big deal. I understand, I understand.

2039
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Speaker 16: Hey, you know what, you know what I'm really excited

2040
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 16: about is Jolly Bono being on MBC.

2041
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:43,720
Speaker 15: I'm so excited. I'm with you last like nobody ever.

2042
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be awesome. You know his

2043
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 2: I guess what's second to last year with the Reds.

2044
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 2: Maybe last, maybe it wasn't his last year, but have

2045
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 2: been his whatever. Toward the end of his career with

2046
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 2: the Reds when he wasn't healthy and he spent time

2047
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 2: in the booth doing mainly TV, but there was one

2048
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:04,600
Speaker 2: memorable game where he did radio. He was terrific. And

2049
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 2: I think with Joey you get humor. Although I'm sure

2050
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna be viewers who don't get his brand of humor,

2051
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be humor. I think few players of

2052
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 2: Joey's generation are as thoughtful and are as dedicated to

2053
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 2: their craft. Like this strikes me. If Joey Vado is

2054
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 2: going to do something, he's really gonna work at it.

2055
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 2: You and I both know that there are former players

2056
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 2: who have gone into the booth and you could tell

2057
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 2: like they really don't work at it. You get the sense,

2058
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 2: I get the sense at least that Joey is is

2059
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 2: really gonna work at his craft. He's gonna work really hard,

2060
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 2: and he's going to bring to the table all the

2061
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 2: things that we saw certainly over the second half of

2062
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 2: his career, his personality, his willingness to analyze and dissect.

2063
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 2: He's obviously going to bring a former player's perspective who

2064
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 2: played across a long stretch of time. I'm with you, Mike.

2065
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 2: I think Joey Vada doing games is going to be terrific.

2066
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, I can't wait.

2067
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 4: Do you?

2068
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 2: Uh?

2069
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 16: Did you have you heard any inkling to the Alex

2070
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 16: Pierce going to the Steelers?

2071
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 8: Uh?

2072
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 2: I think Alec Peerce is going to have a whole

2073
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 2: lot of suitors. I haven't. I don't know that I've seen.

2074
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: If I've seen Alec Pierce and the Steelers, it hasn't

2075
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 2: necessarily stood out to me. I think Alec Pierce. I

2076
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 2: mean right now, one of the things they're wondering in

2077
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 2: Indianapolis is like, can they really afford to let him walk?

2078
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,439
Speaker 2: If they do, there's probably a lot of teams interested

2079
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 2: in Alec Peers.

2080
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, that I think he's foolish.

2081
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 16: So I love that guy, don't you.

2082
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 8: Have?

2083
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Since he was in school? Yeah, I mean, look back

2084
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: to back years. Has led the league in yards per reception,

2085
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 2: which you know, if you watched him at you see Mike,

2086
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 2: you always knew he could go catch the deep ball,

2087
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 2: like he was kind of the deep ball specialist. And

2088
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 2: then in his last season you saw him run you know,

2089
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 2: every route on the tree as they say, like he

2090
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 2: just he expanded what he could do. But his deep

2091
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 2: threat playmaking ability, which team in the league wouldn't want

2092
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: that had over twenty one yards per reception last year.

2093
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 2: He can run streak routes, He can run a lot

2094
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 2: of different types of routes. Alec Pearce is going to

2095
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: make a lot of money this offseason.

2096
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 15: I hope so, because he just seems like such a

2097
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 15: good kid or a young man, not a kid.

2098
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 16: And how about how about what well Bruno Marsh I'm sorry,

2099
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,160
Speaker 16: I I'm just I know the guy's a great talent,

2100
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 16: and every day I'm just not down with Bruno Mars.

2101
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 15: I'd rather hear Sly in the family stone myself. But anyway,

2102
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 15: that's a different genre. But how about those Florida Gators

2103
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 15: eight in a row on the road in Texas where

2104
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 15: this team is dangerous?

2105
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 2: Moll awesome, They're awesome. Yeah, they're they're they're peaking at

2106
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 2: at precisely the right time, top thirteen in both offensive

2107
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: and defensive efficiency. That they haven't lost since one of

2108
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 2: the more puzzling losses of the season. They've they've actually

2109
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 2: got a couple. They lost to Auburn, and I was

2110
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 2: thinking about them today because you ceased to last to

2111
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 2: play TCU. That's a TCU team that has some head

2112
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: scratching losses. TCU got Florida at the right time because

2113
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 2: it was Thanksgiving. But TCU beat Florida. Since then, they've

2114
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 2: taken care of business against Alabama, they have beaten Kentucky,

2115
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 2: they've beaten Georgia, beat Texas last night. Running away with

2116
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 2: the SEC. You know it's Florida is going to be very,

2117
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 2: very difficult to beat in the NCAA tournament. There's there's

2118
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 2: no question about. Look, the SEC is down this year

2119
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 2: relative to what they have been, but Todd Golden's team

2120
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 2: is playing extraordinarily well, especially on the defensive end of

2121
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 2: the floor.

2122
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, they are in their guard place, getting a little

2123
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 9: better offensively too.

2124
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 16: Thanks for the time, though, now you've got to go.

2125
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 2: Thanks Ry Mike, anything for you, man, take care of

2126
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 2: that nosebleed. We need you, We need you here with

2127
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 2: us night away from six o'clock. Tara, how are we

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Speaker 2: on time? We haven't taken the forty break yet? We

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Speaker 2: better do that or is the show over? We have

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Speaker 2: one minute left in the show. Wow, Okay, well all right,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go back to the combine tomorrow. We are

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Speaker 2: most definitely looking forward to that. I am I'll be

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Speaker 2: honest with you because I always am. My like work

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Speaker 2: area right now is an absolute disaster. So I the

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Speaker 2: list of what we have tomorrow is beyond my grasp.

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Speaker 2: I am a disorganized mess. The show has over got

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Speaker 2: to go. Oh tomorrow, we have a kindred to d

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Speaker 2: st Auben from Apple TV on fc Cincinnati. We've got

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Speaker 2: a good combine guest whose name totally escapes me, and

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Speaker 2: one or two other things I'll make ter and work

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Speaker 2: on as well. Anything you might have missed go find

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Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. Thanks to long Next sports Girl,

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Speaker 2: we are done back at it tomorrow at three oh five.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget Tony Pike since three sixty is at noon,

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Speaker 2: and uh, we'll talk to you tomorrow. I have a

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Speaker 2: great night. Thank you so much for listening. This is

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports.

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Speaker 3: Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center at u See Health.

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Speaker 4: They never miss a beat. Your heart shouldn't either. If

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Speaker 4: you have signs of a cardiac rhythm disorder, don't wait

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Speaker 4: to be seen. Schedule online at UCHealth dot com. Southbound

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Speaker 4: seventy one south of Western Row Road. Right two lanes

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Speaker 4: blocked from an accident. Southbound seventy five after groundbreath, there's

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Speaker 4: a vehicle fire that one often the right two lanes

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Speaker 4: forty minute delay from Shepherd Lane. Mary Ingles Highway closed

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Speaker 4: from a fire between California Crossroad and Henderson Lane. I'm

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Speaker 4: at eazelic with traffic