1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minte with more of the WOOR. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Saturday Morning Show. Amazon and other major companies are cutting 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: thousands of jobs. Is AI to blame? Let's ask career 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: advice expert Greg g and Grande Greg. It's fascinating. Amazon 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of other big companies are announcing big 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: layoffs and a lot of people are assuming that's AI related. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Is that If that's true, is it just Amazon and 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: other big tech companies or is it affecting other jobs 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: and entry level jobs? 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: For sure, it is more widespread than what we hear 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: about in the headlines. Lots of big public companies have 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: to make public announcements about their layoffs, and certainly a 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: company like Amazon is going to make headlines, whereas one 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: of the tens of thousands of other companies that no 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: one has heard of. Even if they announce internally that 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: they're going to be conducting layoffs, no news organization is 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: going to pick it up. But many companies have been 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 2: trimming their resources, and it's only partially due to AI 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: and the you know, the advancements and technology certainly a 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: contributing factor. That's uh that no one would dispute that, 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: but it's it's there are other factors as well. Every 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: successful company, in order to sustain success, has to constantly 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: evaluate the marketplace and how they are deploying their capital, 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: their financial capital and their human capital. Are they built 26 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: today for what the challenges and the opportunities and the 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: marketplace are today and for the next three to five years. 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: And if they haven't done that in the last five years, 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: well how they were built five years ago may not 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: be how they need to be built going forward. Soanies 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: go through this rigorous process of looking at their layers 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: and spans of control and how they're structured internally, and 33 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: what their hiring needs are going to be, and where 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: they're investing in teams, and so you get periodically these 35 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: kind of major organizational announcements of layoffs, partially due to 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: AI and the advancements and capabilities of technology, but just 37 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: partially due to all the other market factors. 38 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: It's happened so many times in our history. I think 39 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: we every time it does happen, we forget that, yes, 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: there's going to be advancements in technology and in manufacturing 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: and in the way for instance, cars are built and 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: every single and robotics, and every single times that happens, 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: it seems to be there is this feeling of doom 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: and gloom, like, uh oh, there's gonna be a lot 45 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: of people out of work, and it seems like the 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: marketplace always is able to catch up to the technology, 47 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: even though there might be a big hit. This is 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: his old is the cotton gin. You know, it's happened 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: over and over and over again, but this one seems 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: a little bit different. You talk to people all the time, 51 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: is it different? 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: You're right, well, it feels different because the peace of 53 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: the change is far more rapid than ever before, and 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: the disruption because of the technology and how fast the 55 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: capabilities are growing. That's why it feels different this time. 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: And you go back years back. Even with just the Internet, 57 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: like twenty five years ago, it still took years for 58 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: companies and industries to adapt and really take advantage of 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: that capability, so it didn't feel like it was sudden 60 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: and overnight. And with AI, it feels like, wow, we 61 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: were just talking about AI and now it's disrupting everything. 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: It's because the capabilities are so great and happening so fast. 63 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 2: Let's think it's important. Good. I was just going to say, 64 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: I think it's important for people to understand that, you know, 65 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: one of the ways to think about how you can 66 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: protect yourself as much as you can and to avoid 67 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: a layoff is to really be in tune and in 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: sync with what are the priorities of the company, and 69 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: how can I make myself as indispensable as possible for 70 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: what the company needs and wants to do going forward 71 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: and maintain visibility, Be a champion of the company culture 72 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: and strategy, be great at what you do, and be visible, 73 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: positive and visible. 74 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: You answered the question I was going to ask. So 75 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: let's go to the Greg e mailbox. Here we go. 76 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: My boss recently said they were putting me on a 77 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: performance improvement plan outlining the things I need to do better. 78 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: I am new to the workforce and still learning, and 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: I am confident I can adapt and learn. But is 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: a the performance improvement plan common for new hires who 81 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: are learning or is my job in jeopardy? Great question? 82 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: It is a great question, and the odds are that 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 2: this early career person is going to learn something new 84 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: that a performance improvement plan is really a misnomer. And 85 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: everybody talks about this privately. Everybody makes fun of the name, 86 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: they should change the name. Every manager, every HR person 87 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: a performance improvement plan. And I say this anecdotally, but 88 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: I bet statistically it's not far off. At least ninety 89 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: percent of employees who are put on a performance improvement 90 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: plan exit the company within that year, either voluntarily or 91 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: involuntarily what And that's because a performance improvement plan really 92 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: means the company is not happy with your performance and 93 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: they are documenting what they're not happy about and what 94 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: you need to do to improve in order to save 95 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: your job, which is different from a normal development plan 96 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: that you might give to employees for how they can 97 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: learn and grow and advance their skills. This is we 98 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: have had discussions about you not performing well. Now I'm 99 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: going to document it, and if things don't change pretty dramatically, 100 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: you are likely to lose your job in the next 101 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: thirty sixty ninety days. That's the dirty little secret about 102 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: performance improvement plans. 103 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: Well that was a surprise ending. Well, we'll talk more 104 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: about this. Greg Gie and Grande Career advice expert with 105 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: us every Wednesday at nine thirty five. Thanks a lot, Greg. 106 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: This has been a podcast from wor