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Speaker 1: Ryan Williams CUSU women's head coach is going to be

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Speaker 1: obviously going to join the show at five thirty. First

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Speaker 1: four games the men's tournament start tomorrow, so stay away

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Speaker 1: Dave during the break, I did not get you the.

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Speaker 2: Name of the boy band. I'm gonna continue to you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'll, i'll, I'll enterprise that.

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Speaker 3: I understand your reluctance to have those names out there.

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Speaker 2: Someone else.

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Speaker 1: There's a gospel band. I thought it was a girls group.

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Speaker 2: I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: As a gospel band that have that took that same

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Speaker 1: name fifteen years later, so wow, Yeah, so there you go.

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Speaker 2: I did a I did a jeans ad.

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Speaker 3: When I was back in Cleveland. Oh yeah, and refuse

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Speaker 3: to give the name of the company. Okay, my program

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Speaker 3: director was, you know, hell been on looking online and

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Speaker 2: So no I need this now? Yeah, which one is

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. That was

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, by the way, somebody something the other day.

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Speaker 2: Somebody had said that there were.

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Speaker 1: Some football cards, more football cards than you in the uh,

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Speaker 1: Condition got to be worth what five six cents say

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Speaker 1: something like that, you know, pretty Uh, maybe two Nichols,

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Speaker 1: who knows. But it was mustache and hair. Mister Logan had.

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Speaker 3: The corn corn had the corn stash. Hey, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: I just saw something here. Grant didn't we uh didn't

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Speaker 2: Last week?

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Speaker 1: Ryan took the over, everybody else took the under?

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Speaker 2: Okay, really I thought I was rooting for the over. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was rooting like hell for the over. Do you

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Speaker 1: With Brian Edwards, we're gonna we'll get pablotry on this,

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Speaker 1: get some investigations going into all this. Five six sixty

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Speaker 1: in someone The five five nine was and Chad Kelly

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Speaker 1: a weird Yeah, he was. He left von Miller's party.

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Speaker 2: Just killed right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the guy, the man of the house, the homeowner,

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Speaker 1: chased uh uh Chad Kelly out, who was dressed like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen if you haven't seen the video, that could

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it could have been.

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Speaker 3: But Chad was like, he probably benefited. He probably benefited

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Speaker 3: To take something even if you had a firearm and

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Speaker 2: Into my just walking into my house and I don't

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Speaker 1: And he's publicly voiced before that he'd like to retire

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously been on his mind.

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Speaker 1: He had one of his his lightest workload in the

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Speaker 1: People wondering is the Broncos cleared up cap space doing

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Speaker 2: Now, whether or not.

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Speaker 3: Well, I again, I'm simply sitting here and watching this

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Speaker 2: I don't have any idea.

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Speaker 3: It would make sense to me what you just said

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Speaker 2: We'll see real quick here. We got a little bit

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Speaker 1: Buffsmen's basketball team as accepted a return invitation to play

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Speaker 1: in the College Basketball Crown Postseason Tournament April first through

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Speaker 1: the fifth in Las Vegas, Colorado will open with Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, April first, at six pm at the MGM

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Speaker 1: Grand Garden Arena. Oklahoma is nineteen to fifteen on the season.

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Speaker 1: The Sooners are considered the first team out on selection Sunday.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people felt like Oklahoma, because of their schedule,

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Speaker 2: You know, here's my feeling on that.

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Speaker 3: I know, kids get geared up to try to make

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Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen, the March madness in the field of

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Speaker 2: A bit of a.

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Speaker 3: Sort of a flight of a not a slight but

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Speaker 3: all for getting as many practices in and competition and games.

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Speaker 2: Go play man, especially if you're a young team. Go

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Speaker 1: The Edils, the era, it's a little bit different as

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Speaker 1: That's why I was kind of you know, you looked

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Speaker 2: Now, the tournament's bus are in is not the n

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Speaker 2: I T crown. Hey, go play compete. That's That's how

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Speaker 1: I just wondered, like, would would a Dave Logan coach

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Speaker 3: Here here's what I think about bowl games. I think

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Speaker 3: They lost the last game of the season and they

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Speaker 2: So I'm playing.

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Speaker 1: Stilling Auburn and UH was awake. I think are the

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Speaker 3: The n i T way way long ago before anybody

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Speaker 1: We got to hit a break. But during the break

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Speaker 2: Not like Cordell was fast. He wasn't he was well.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams would have wanted that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, through for forty six hundred yards that year, which

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Speaker 1: have you daven been on together some great sports analysis? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's all Dave. I'm the I'm the pretty face of

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Speaker 1: this thing. They decided they needed prety your face on radio.

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Speaker 1: Since David saw on Facebook today's Ozzie Newsom's birthday.

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Speaker 3: That would be that would be seventy. That would be

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Speaker 3: I think you see Ozzie's first year in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's an incredible draft. He played his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, who was the general manager? Do you

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Speaker 3: Oh god, seventy seventy six seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: How about Peter had Hazy. Good call that who it was?

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Speaker 2: Peter had Hazy.

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Speaker 1: in seventy eight. Yeah, not a big not great as

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Speaker 1: the head coach, but was Bridge was great. There was

443
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Speaker 1: a guy would identified tight end time.

444
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Speaker 3: I actually I actually enjoyed Rich as a position coach. Yeah,

445
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: you know, I mean he didn't try to he didn't.

446
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: Try to bs you. He played tight end.

447
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: He was a backup tight end for most of his

448
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Speaker 3: career with the Giants and maybe the Eagles. But I

449
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 3: mean just a blue collar guy. You know, here's here's

450
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Speaker 3: how you get better in the NFL. Guys they want

451
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Speaker 3: somebody there that can help them get better every single day,

452
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Speaker 3: every practice.

453
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Speaker 2: That's what they aspired to. And Rich.

454
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Speaker 3: You know, it didn't work out as a as a

455
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Speaker 3: head coach obviously, but Rich I thought Rich was a

456
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Speaker 3: really good position coach.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a couple of his first two years

458
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Speaker 1: a head coach in Philadelphia, were all right, and it

459
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: was just kind of downhill from Yeah, absolutely right, which, yeah,

460
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Speaker 1: it was always one of those one of those fascinating things.

461
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he was widely considered one of to be

462
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Speaker 1: the best guys identifying wide receiver and tight end talent.

463
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Speaker 2: Over the years.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of guys I talked to that

465
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Speaker 1: that still swear by. You know, rich Coe Tite was

466
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Speaker 1: a guy. He could just pick you out if he

467
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Speaker 1: was out there.

468
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Speaker 2: So there you go.

469
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Speaker 1: Five six six nins there. Who wins in a foot

470
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Speaker 1: rate today? Ben or Dave?

471
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Speaker 3: I think Ben? I think Ben would would get me.

472
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Speaker 3: I think Ben. I think Ben would win the foot

473
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Speaker 3: race today. Oh in his prime. Dave Logan is smoking me.

474
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Speaker 3: I think I think I win in my prime. But yeah,

475
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Speaker 3: prime is in the rearview mirror.

476
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Speaker 1: Is so Ran Edwards foolishly a couple of years ago,

477
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Speaker 1: challenge Steve atwater the combine.

478
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Speaker 3: Right at the combine, did he nearly tear both hamstrings

479
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Speaker 3: off the bone?

480
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Speaker 1: Steve turned around and backwards walked the last several yards.

481
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Speaker 2: That's all I'll say about that.

482
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Speaker 3: Did Ryan go down? And that was that the one

483
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Speaker 3: he went face first.

484
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Speaker 1: I maybe I don't remember if that was it, if

485
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Speaker 1: that was the one or the one where Steve had

486
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Speaker 1: him doing the receiver drills and he played like he

487
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Speaker 1: went to throw.

488
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Speaker 2: The ball back to Steve and one of like, oh Steve.

489
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Speaker 1: Was looking at it, catches the ball, just looks at

490
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Speaker 1: hims like is that how you throw a football?

491
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Speaker 2: Right?

492
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Speaker 1: At all time favorite moments. That was at the Senior

493
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Speaker 1: Bowl though, that wasn't the comments, So maybe he did.

494
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Speaker 2: Maybe Ryan did plant on that one. I can't remember.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just remember a story. I don't remember specifically

496
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Speaker 3: if it was the combine.

497
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Speaker 2: There was one.

498
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Speaker 3: He's running for all he's worth and we've all done

499
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Speaker 3: it from time to time. Then all of a sudden,

500
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Speaker 3: either you missed up a little bit or your hand

501
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Speaker 3: or whatever, and I mean you literally face planted.

502
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had some.

503
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Speaker 1: Uh we went one year and we all they made

504
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Speaker 1: you guess your forty time before you ran it because

505
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Speaker 1: they had the little forty thing lined out so that

506
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Speaker 1: you could do if you were immediate. How many guys

507
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Speaker 1: everybody went way over what they said they were going

508
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Speaker 1: to run, like guys were guessing numbers, and they ran

509
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Speaker 1: much much slower than what they claimed lower.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

511
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Speaker 1: We had a colleague of ours who claimed he was

512
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Speaker 1: going to run in the fours and ran in the sixes,

513
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Speaker 1: which he's no longer alive here, Oh yeah, I did

514
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Speaker 1: keep my eyes said I was gonna run in the fives,

515
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Speaker 1: and I kept it.

516
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Speaker 2: Talk about BK but okay, are you talking. He's still

517
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Speaker 2: a friend. He ran in the sixes. I think it

518
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Speaker 2: was him.

519
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping my memory is correct here.

520
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Speaker 2: I think it was Text me.

521
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Speaker 1: And tell me who it is.

522
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Speaker 2: It wasn't him.

523
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember it because I know, yeah, Ryan

524
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Speaker 1: thought he was gonna run the sixes and ran slower

525
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Speaker 1: than that.

526
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Speaker 2: Ryan did not.

527
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Speaker 3: Ryan ran in the sevens or a forty yard dashes.

528
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Speaker 3: Oh my lord, that's all I mean, that's I will say.

529
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Speaker 3: It's impossible to do for for a like. I mean, well,

530
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Speaker 3: this was before he lost the weight he was he was.

531
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Speaker 3: He wasn't like a jumbo, no, but.

532
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Speaker 1: He's lost like forty five pounds I think, or forty

533
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Speaker 1: pounds since then. So seven yeah, I think I believe

534
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Speaker 1: that he would run faster than that.

535
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Speaker 2: Now.

536
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Speaker 1: So there was somebody trying to get a media combine

537
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Speaker 1: going a little while ago, and it never took off.

538
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: Because you'd have to sign some sort of waiver.

539
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Speaker 1: This was like, I'm gonna kill myself trying to.

540
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Speaker 2: Do the bitch press. Mike had a heart attack. I mean,

541
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Speaker 2: my foot is real bad.

542
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, I mean I would do

543
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Speaker 1: it just to do it, just because I think it's funny.

544
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Speaker 2: There will be some dudes. There'd be some dudes that

545
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Speaker 2: probably would be pretty good in the media.

546
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Speaker 1: Right, especially some you know, like you said, former players

547
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Speaker 1: that aren't that far removed from playing, they would probably

548
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Speaker 1: do real well. But the text lane, he's no longer alive. Yeah,

549
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Speaker 1: after he died of embarrassment after running that forty Well

550
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Speaker 1: the way you.

551
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Speaker 2: Said he's gone, well, I gone gone? How gone?

552
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Speaker 1: I mean to be that somber with it's no longer here?

553
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Speaker 1: I didn't mean he's no longer among us as far

554
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Speaker 1: as that stuff goes.

555
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Speaker 2: Six.

556
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Speaker 1: I can't believe I got off on that on that

557
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Speaker 1: tangent five to five O Dave, When has Dangerous been

558
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: great outside of Seattle? Yeah, I think that's a good point.

559
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Speaker 1: I mean he was excellent in Seattle. He was in

560
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, I think every year but one he was

561
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Speaker 1: offensive Player of the Year, you know, top ten OFFENSI

562
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Speaker 1: Player the Year vote for five or six of those years,

563
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Speaker 1: All Pro for four of them. I think you got

564
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Speaker 1: votes for All Pro. Yeah, four or five. Now he

565
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: got uh, he got some Pro Bowl votes for that

566
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: season with Pittsburgh got over.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there would there would be people that would say

568
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Speaker 3: he was not horrible in fact, okay, and maybe maybe

569
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Speaker 3: pretty good from time to time. In his that year

570
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Speaker 3: was Sean Yeah.

571
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Speaker 2: I mean he threw twenty six touchdowns. Yeah he was.

572
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't say he was great.

573
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Speaker 3: I certainly wouldn't say it was great, but I also

574
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Speaker 3: wouldn't say it was horrible.

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think he was above average. That's

576
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: and it's probably the best way to put that.

577
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Speaker 3: I remember unlimited, Yeah, you gotta be unlimited.

578
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Speaker 1: I remember when Russell Wilson came out in that draft

579
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Speaker 1: and he measured it at five to ten and I

580
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: was like, man, if this guy was six inches taller,

581
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Speaker 1: he would be the number one overall pick in his

582
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: draft or up up there wouldn't been numer one because

583
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Speaker 1: I think it was Andy Luckier, but he would have been

584
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: up there as far as the you know, he would

585
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Speaker 1: have been in the first round draft pick, and we

586
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been considering it, and everybody's like, he's too

587
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: short to play in the league, and then you.

588
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: Know, he rattled off eight or nine years there. All. Yeah,

589
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Hall of Fame caliber career.

590
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: I think Russell Wilson honestly should be given as much

591
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: credit as.

592
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Speaker 2: Maybe anybody I.

593
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: Can think of of of changing the way NFL general

594
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: managers in front office personnel in the NFL viewed shorter quarterbacks.

595
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: But he was he the first, probably not, but this

596
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: was a guy that came in and played at a

597
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: level where it's like, Okay, this dude's five ten and

598
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 3: he's he's doing this, so we're we're not going to

599
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: rule out you know, the guys that are six foot.

600
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: It used to be if you were a six foot quarterback,

601
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: they just ruled you out.

602
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean Drew Brees was the guy Like

603
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: Drew Brees.

604
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Doug Flutie came in whatever, But

605
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: the legend of Doug Flutie is larger than the actual

606
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: production of Doug Flutie. You could go back and look

607
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, these are not great numbers that Doug Fluty.

608
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean it was fun to watch, But Drew Brees

609
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I think paved the way because I listened him at

610
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: six foot.

611
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: Drew Brees is not six foot tall. Drew Brees is

612
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: my height, Like, Drew Brees is not your height.

613
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: Drew Brees, that eat a cornpuff off your head.

614
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm five to ten Drew Brees is. It's just me

615
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: and you here, I'm five.

616
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: To ten beyonder, we can get out the measuring tape.

617
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: It's be the freest steak dinner I ever won.

618
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, Drew Brees. So I'm trying to think

619
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Speaker 3: the year of Drew came into the league.

620
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: One Plet's see Rivers was so three, so he would

621
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Speaker 1: have been two thousand. I believe two thousand wasn't he

622
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: wasn't it the VIC year, So ninety nine or two thousand.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Brees would be a guy that certainly, certainly

624
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: would would change how people viewed shorter quarterbacks.

625
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: But is Russ the Hall of Famer? Like That's where

626
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: I was going with this. At the end of the day,

627
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: his numbers, He's probably teenth overall in passing yardage in

628
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: league history.

629
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Speaker 3: His the biggest issue for him is how his career ended. Yeah,

630
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: and people, I mean, obviously people who watched the league, voters,

631
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: they'll remember that more readily than they remember what he

632
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: did in Seattle. But I think I think he certainly,

633
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably a Hall of Famer based on

634
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: his career number. What you're looking at it right now,

635
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: he's career numbers in terms of touchdowns to interceptions.

636
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Three hundred and fifty three passing touchdowns to one hundred

637
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: and fourteen interceptions.

638
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: Okay, that by the way, if you if you're in

639
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: the NFL, if you're three to one or more in

640
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: terms of the ratio between touchdowns and interceptions, you're you're

641
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: playing winning football.

642
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, any given season, and certainly for your career. He's that.

643
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: For his career.

644
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: He's sixteenth old time in passing origan twelfth all time

645
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: in passing touchdowns. That doesn't even include the extra thirty

646
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: one whatever rushing touchdowns that he had, you know, it

647
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: doesn't include any I.

648
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: Think a better question is will he make a team

649
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: this fall?

650
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: That is that is the question.

651
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: And really, like to your point where you're talking about

652
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: how ed his career, should players be punished for hanging

653
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: on too long?

654
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: No, you can always tell the player to go home, but.

655
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean for Hall of Fame voting perposal, so to

656
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: say like that's what happened, I don't think it helps

657
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: them that's what happened here. I mean, he didn't hurt

658
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, but Jerry Rice was the all time leader

659
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: and everything you know with the Seattle Denver things like

660
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: that was weird.

661
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: But I mean Tony Dorset, Okay, Tony Dorset was here

662
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: right after he played in Dallas.

663
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Arizona years or whatever.

664
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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean Johnnie United went to San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, I forget about that, right. So, but it

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Speaker 2: does feel like that. It feels like you pun it.

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Speaker 1: We punished guys who hung on a little too long

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Speaker 1: because that becomes our lasting memory that they went out

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Speaker 1: instead of going out to blaze the glory like John did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think there's there's probably truth

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Speaker 3: to that. But I still think when they go back

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Speaker 3: and look at his numbers and his body of work,

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Speaker 3: got the two Super Bowls one to one, he's he's

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Speaker 3: probably a Hall of Fame player.

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Speaker 1: And then there's, uh, there's Kirk Cousins whose Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame and getting the bag.

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Speaker 3: What are his touchdowns to interceptions.

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Speaker 1: He had got almost three hundred touchdowns. What do you

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Speaker 1: have to ninety eight to one thirty one? So not

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Speaker 1: as good as Russ in terms of the three to one,

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Speaker 1: he's a little more than two to one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, and not not to ever be

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Speaker 3: considered as a Hall of Fame player, right, but as

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Speaker 3: much money as he made four hundred million.

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Speaker 1: Something like that, and he started three playoff games in

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Speaker 1: his career three and one one and one one, three

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Speaker 1: playoff games. That is ridiculous. I'd like, I can't and

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Speaker 1: that that amount of money. He is top five old

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Speaker 1: time in NFL earnings.

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, Well, you can think, really, you can think

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Speaker 3: Daniel Snyder and the Washington Record.

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Speaker 1: For continuing to tag him and him run into the

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Speaker 1: thing to sign those franchise tags.

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Speaker 2: And it's the one player most players hate that.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins couldn't couldn't sprint fast.

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Speaker 2: Enough to keep siding those things.

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Speaker 1: And then Minnesota coming and paying him. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: when Denver and New York were all trying to be

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Speaker 1: involved in that, he went, I don't know my cut,

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Speaker 1: like if if Arizona, Whif's on this Jimmy Garoppolo thing

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Speaker 1: which they've managed to mangle, which I would have done

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Speaker 1: to begin with Kirk Cousins. Feels like a fit there somebody,

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Speaker 1: I think it was you mentioned the Raiders with Kubiak,

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Speaker 1: like he has to go to that offense. That's the

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Speaker 1: only offense he knows. So it's he's not going to

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Speaker 1: try some new offense this latest career. So it's got

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Speaker 1: to be a Shanahan offense. So what Lafleur or Kubiak

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Speaker 1: I mean? That feels like his options unless he wants

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Speaker 1: to be a backup somewhere, which I don't know that

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Speaker 1: he You know, I.

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Speaker 3: Would think with a guy like that, you've made so

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Speaker 3: much money, unless you're going to get an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: compete for a starting job, what's what's the point, right,

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Speaker 3: You've got to You've got a bushel of kids and

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Speaker 3: a wife and and you know, half of four hundred

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Speaker 3: million dollars presumably, if not more so, money is not

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Speaker 3: an issue. You don't ever have to work, nor will

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Speaker 3: your kids or their kids or kids or kids if

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Speaker 3: they don't want to.

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Speaker 1: But go get the booth somewhere, you know, go be

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Speaker 1: a studio analyst somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he'd be pretty good at that.

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Speaker 2: I did too.

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Speaker 1: If you watch a Netflix score, I think he'd be

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Speaker 1: really out at dead. And here's some guys you're like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't think you're gonna be He looks.

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Speaker 1: He feels like the guy would.

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Speaker 2: Be good at them.

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Speaker 1: We gotted a BREAKKT with sports backing for this