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I feel like one day we're gonna 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: end up doing this in like September. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Because the season gets earlier and earlier. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot com, Rickbrowing Musketeer Report dot com. 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: You'll also hear him on NKU radio broadcast, both in studio. 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to interrupt this in fifteen minutes to 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: talk to Richard Skinner, but you guys know him well, 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: so because there is Bengals news Joe Flacco has a 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: bad shoulder and we've got to talk about the game 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: on Sunday, so we will interrupt for the first time 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: ever the Chad and Rick College Basketball Spectacular to talk 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: to Skinny. 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: But that's okay, right, Sure, How you doing, guys, great? 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: How are you? 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: What's going on? It's time? It is time. I'm I'm 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: also ready to go. 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna make a lot of people 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 5: happy today, No, no, really? 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you guys love exhibition season? 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: I like it. I love it. I do like it. 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: It's it's everybody has the same take. I just I 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: wish these games could be played during the regular season. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: Kentucky Purdue was a fun watch. I want that game 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: to matter. 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just don't think they're going to do that. 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 6: And this is a great alternative still see the see 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 6: the game happen without a lot of pomp and circumstances. 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: Hype around it. 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a fun watch. 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: Arkansas Cincinnati, that was not a fun one. No, that 39 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: was miserable. That was miserable. 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: First time I had ever been to Chrysler Arena. Yeah, 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 5: nice place. Had a good time. 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: The one thing I do miss is I'm the the 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 3: athletes and action game because that was what I enjoyed 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: most about. 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: That was. Oh yeah, that guy, Oh I remember that dude, 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Marathon Oil. Oh yeah. 47 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 3: And you would see these guys from like four or 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: five years prior that you would kind of wonder whatever 49 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: happened to him, and they'd be playing for Marathon Oil 50 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: or Athletes in Action and. 51 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: They can smoke a cigarette at halftime. Those are great. 52 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: Games, that's right, that's right. Yeah, the I watched the 53 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: whole Arkansas game. I watched the Michigan game after the facts, 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: but I watched the first half of Arkansas live, and 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: my takeaway was, Holy hell, Arkansas is playing really hard. 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 5: It's a perfect setting for coach coach cal team where 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 5: teams aren't really trying to like game plan and stop them, 58 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 5: and they can run up and down the floor and 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: overwhelm you with their athleticism. They overwhelmed Cincinnati with their athleticism. 60 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 5: I do think like when you get to like Houston, 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 5: Iowa State, some teams like that, Like a couple of 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 5: red flags went up for some teams Cincinnati will be 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: facing because I just don't think they're overly long and 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: athletic at guard. I think they can they can be 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: pretty good at guard. But a team like that could 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 5: very well give them a lot of issues. 67 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: So let's not talk about that one. Let's talk about 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: the Michigan game. 69 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: Okay, because for the first half of that one, I 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: immensely enjoyed the shot of Bay of experience. 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's gonna be a freshman. He's gonna have 72 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: his ups and downs, but when he hits his ups, 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 5: it's gonna really really excite this fan base offensively. He's 74 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: just insanely gifted. Yeah, you know, he can pass, he 75 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: can shoot, he can drive, has good feel for offense. 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: So when he's playing, well, you know, things are gonna 77 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: be very fun. But there's gonna be some games that 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: he that he struggles too, that people are gonna have 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 5: to smile through. 80 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: A Yeah, here they are, They're ready. I listened to 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: the Murray Steak game. Uh, and that I saw Richard 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: Pettis tweets after the Murray State game one in which 83 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: he referenced the beer right the Muskie Lagger, which is 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: a cool can, and then he went out of his 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: way to mention on social media the game doesn't counts. 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 3: I can't find anybody who thinks the Musketeers are going 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 3: to be really good. So it kind of felt like 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: that just fed that that narrative, so to speak. What 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: was most troubling about the seventy five seventy home loss 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: to the. 91 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 6: Racers I think that if you were there in person 92 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 6: watching it, it didn't feel like a fluke. Like if 93 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 6: they lined it up and played it again this weekend, 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 6: I don't know that you'd be more confident that Xavier 95 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: was going to come away with a win and that 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 6: was just like a one off bad night. 97 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: And then that was kind of backed up by the. 98 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 6: Fact that the word coming out of the secret scrimmage 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 6: against Toledo was that they also lost that one and 100 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: had nineteen turnovers and didn't play very well at times. So, yeah, 101 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 6: there's a lot of concerning things coming out of the 102 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: preseason from a is this team going to farewell? 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: From a wins loss perspective, Yeah, I. 104 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Can't find anybody who thinks the answer is yes. 105 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's pretty much the case right now. 106 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 6: I mean, we did our season preview podcast last night 107 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 6: for Musketeer Report, and I had them at eleven and 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: twenty overall, five and fifteen in the Big East. 109 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Eleven and twenty. 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: Correct. 111 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: That's hard for those of us who have followed that 112 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: program to wrap our brains around. 113 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 114 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 6: I think it's just a little bit different this year, 115 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 6: having to not only replace an entire roster, but you 116 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 6: were in a situation last year during the transfer portal 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 6: where you had the rules changing by July first. You 118 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 6: had these football schools with nil collectives that were like, 119 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 6: we got to dump the whole collective right now before 120 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 6: July first upfront, and the school's also going to pay 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 6: guys after July first, so we're kind of double dipping 122 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 6: in terms of NILA. David didn't have that, so they 123 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 6: kind of were recruiting an entire roster in the transfer 124 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 6: portal with one hand tied behind their back. I think 125 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 6: they'll be in a much better spot for at least 126 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 6: this upcoming spring before I'm sure the rules could change 127 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: again after that. But this past year it was a 128 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 6: very difficult year to be trying to rebuild an entire roster, 129 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 6: and I think that, shit. 130 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: What should they be at least decent at this season? 131 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 6: And that's a really good question. We talked about that 132 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 6: last night on the podcast, like strengths weaknesses. Where do 133 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 6: you go and try to say what are they going 134 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 6: to hang their hat on? What are you sure about 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 6: them being good at? There's not a lot there at 136 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: least yet, and part of it is just that we 137 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 6: haven't seen them a lot, right I mean, we don't 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 6: know it's an entirely sh team. 139 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: Yea. 140 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 6: All these guys are making some type of step up 141 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 6: and level of competition. So I don't think there's one 142 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 6: thing that I've seen so far where I'm like, yeah, 143 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 6: that looks really good. You could say on paper, they 144 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 6: look like a long team, but I haven't seen that 145 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 6: equate to like better rebounding or really good defense yet, 146 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 6: So I'm still waiting to see what that strength is. 147 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like the Big East is gonna be 148 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: the non league schedule, is what it is, so to speak, Uh, 149 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: it is last place in the Big East possible. 150 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: I think it's in play. 151 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: Now. 152 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 6: Here's the one thing where we might be and I 153 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 6: might be a little off and overblowing how much they 154 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 6: could struggle is I think seventh through eleven in the. 155 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: Big East is all gonna be pretty bad, right. 156 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 6: I think a lot of those schools were in a 157 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 6: similar spot last year during the transfer portal so and 158 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 6: a lot of them were turning over a lot of 159 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 6: their rosters. So they're all in a spot where who 160 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 6: knows what they're gonna look like, and it could be 161 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 6: pretty bad at the bottom of the conference. 162 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: So maybe they'll pick. 163 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: Up a few more wins along the way in conference 164 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 6: play than you might otherwise think a team like this 165 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 6: would in the Big East. Right, But yeah, it's I 166 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: think it's in play that they could be anywhere from 167 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: like eight to eleven in this conference. 168 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Why are you gonna make people mad? Chad? 169 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: I think this has a chance to be a pretty 170 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: good team. But when I start looking at the Big twelve, 171 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 5: where do they fit? 172 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean the top preseason, Paul, they were picked eighth. 173 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: Eighth, Yeah, eighth is you're squarely on the bubble with 174 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: very very little margin for error. 175 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: I think you could. 176 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: I think I would probably have had them seventh, that 177 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: had a Baylor because I don't know that I love 178 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 5: Baylor's roster. I think I like Cincinnati's roster a little 179 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 5: bit more. 180 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: Right, Dan Skilling scores twenty four against. 181 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: Him, that's gonna happen. This is how my life works. 182 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: You're gonna watch vintage Dan Skillings. Yes at Fifth third Arena. Yes, 183 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: But they have against those seven teams, they have eight games, 184 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: four on the road, four at home. How many Houston, 185 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 5: Kansas BYU, Iowa State, Arizona, you know of that group? 186 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 5: What are you confident thinking their record will be in 187 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 5: those eight games, right, And that's. 188 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: This is an audio medium. I don't know how to 189 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: describe the face I just made. 190 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 5: That's where I'm at right, Like, I think it's got 191 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: a chance to be a pretty good team. The only 192 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: thing that has me maybe a little feeling a little 193 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 5: different than the past couple of years on that front. 194 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 5: A lot more freshmen oriented at the top of the 195 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: Big twelve this year, so there's gonna be some a 196 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: little bit more instability than we've seen with these veteran 197 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 5: you know rosters that Like, there's teams in the NBA 198 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 5: that are younger than Houston, so that'll maybe add a 199 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 5: little bit of variance. But if they're in that six, seven, 200 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 5: eight range, you're walking to tightrope. You know, you've got 201 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: to thread a pretty tight needle. And I don't see 202 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: a roster that I think, you know, two and six, 203 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: if you go two and two at home and you 204 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: lose the four road games, if you feel okay with 205 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 5: two and six and those eight upper echelon games, and 206 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: then you've got ten games to win seven, right, and 207 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: half of them on the road and half of them. 208 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: On the road. 209 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 5: So I'm looking at it though, and I'm kind of 210 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 5: squinting my eyes and going, if this goes really well, 211 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: there might be a really tight rope to walk here 212 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 5: for for this roster. 213 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's if it goes really well. Yeah. How much 214 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: are they gonna miss Jalen Haynes quite a bit? 215 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: Because I think he gave them some of that physicality 216 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 5: that last year's team was missing. Inside. You're gonna have 217 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 5: it on the perimeter with with Buck Harris, You're gonna 218 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: have it with Kirkers. It's just a little toughness that 219 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 5: they didn't have last year. I thought Jalen Haynes was 220 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: that guy in the interior. I like bobon Miller, I 221 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 5: like Mustapha Chom. Nobody's gonna be confused. We're not gonna 222 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 5: watch the gaming. Guy's a junkyard dog, right like. So 223 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: Jalen Haynes was kind of that guy. So I do 224 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: think there's a misconception. I think a lot of people 225 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 5: saw Jalen Haynes' size and thought he was like Danny. 226 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Fordson the basket. That's that's not his game. 227 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: A lot of this game is catch up, fifteen feet, 228 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 5: turn and face pass, drive, take advantage of his is 229 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 5: a mismatch, but it's not gonna be like this big 230 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 5: loss and back to the basket scoring, because I don't 231 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 5: think you would have gotten a little bit of that 232 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: from him. But in watching his game, I never walked 233 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 5: away thinking that's a guy that you just duck in, 234 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: have him put his hand up, throw it to him 235 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: and he's gonna put a move and lay it off 236 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 5: the backboard. That that wasn't his game. But they're gonna 237 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 5: miss him because offensively, he was the most offensively advanced 238 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: big on the roster. And now you're playing on a 239 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: team that I don't think it's gonna be great offensively. 240 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: Like if they're top forty offensively, I think that's a 241 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 5: pretty good year. I don't think they're gonna be a 242 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 5: top twenty offense. I think you're making me mad, quite frankly. 243 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 5: That's kind of what I was getting at when I said, 244 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 5: is he gonna play this year? I mean, is there 245 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 5: a school of thought that suggests it's a possibility that 246 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: he comes back. It's a possibility misses the whole year. 247 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 5: There's a possibility for a red shirt, but he's already played. 248 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 5: This is his fifth year of college basketball, So he 249 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 5: would need a waiver that you can't get until after 250 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: the season. So does he risk like if he can 251 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 5: come back for the final six weeks of the season, 252 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: does he decide I need to because I don't. I 253 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: can't bet on the NCAA granting me a six year 254 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: of eligibility. 255 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: You want me to leave, I want you to stop talking. 256 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I get it. Football's eight seven and one. 257 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: Football's good. Yeah, football is good. 258 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: Awesome. 259 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: We're just overflowing with optimism on the annual ched and 260 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: Rick College Basketball spectacul. 261 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: Learn me get home. What five o'clock in the morning Sunday? 262 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 3: We are supposed to land at five thirty and Tony 263 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: and I. Tony and I will be on the air 264 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: from the Holy Grail at nine am. This is because 265 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: the daylight savings kills us this go round. Because we 266 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: did this. They played Colorado last year. Right, we landed 267 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 3: at seven, Tony and I stopped off. I got donuts, 268 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: Buttermilk Pike Dunkin Donuts went to the Holy Ground. Right, 269 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: we could plow through just on the air till eleven thirty. 270 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: This is an earlier arrival because of daylight savings. So 271 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: now five thirty shows at nine. If I go home 272 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: and sleep for an hour, that's not good. Uh, and 273 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: so what do I do? 274 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Sleep in your car for an hour? Oh yeah, that's 275 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: a good idea. Yeah. So no, I'm not sleeping on 276 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: my site. 277 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: Where it's in the parking garage downtown. It's safe. 278 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: I just I don't want to sleep in my car. 279 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: So I think I'm going to go to the Anchor 280 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: Bar and grill. 281 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: Sit down. 282 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: We made but we never closed. I don't think Tony 283 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: has been. So that's my preliminary plan on Sunday morning. 284 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: The only problem is they do close now they do. Yeah, 285 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 6: I don't know if they've quit doing that, but you know, 286 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: COVID ruined everything. 287 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: They're not twenty four hours anymore. 288 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: Not last I checked. 289 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: I'd send you to the pepper Pod, but they're closed 290 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 5: for good. Pepper Pod, Well, it's gone. 291 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Still. 292 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: Peel the smoke off the walls in that place, I 293 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: guess nothing. All right, cold seasoning, We're we're gonna brighten 294 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: things up and we're gonna spend I'm gonna spend a 295 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: few minutes talking with Richard Skinner about Joe Flacco not 296 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: being able to play on Sunday, it's gonna be going. 297 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: Then we'll come back to how bad the Bearcats and 298 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: Musketeers are going to be. We have to talk about 299 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: the Norse. Some other college basketball topics as well. Coming 300 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 301 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 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Joe Flacco didn't practice 313 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: because he has a sore shoulder and now he might 314 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: not play on Sunday, So it's gonna be Jake Browning, 315 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: so instead of losing forty one to thirty. 316 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Eight, they'll lose forty one to ten. 317 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: I guess one o'clock Sunday Live on ESPN fifteen thirty. 318 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Pregame coverage from the Holy Grail starts at nine am 319 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: more tonight on Bengals Game Plan from six to eight 320 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: with Dan Horden Dave Lapham on ESPN fifteen thirty. Congratulations 321 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: to Nick Hagland, named the MLS Comeback Player of the Year. 322 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: He has overcome injury after injury after injury this year 323 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: busted ribs and a collapse, Long came back and helped 324 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati not only to the playoffs, but a Game 325 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: one win over Columbus. Game two on Sunday on Fox 326 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: Sports thirteen sixty. Game five of the World Series is tonight. 327 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: Blue Jays and Dodgers in Los Angeles. Series tied at 328 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 3: two apiece. Blue Jackets skate against the Toronto Maple Leafs tonight. 329 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: The Jackets are five and four after their OT win 330 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: in Buffalo last night. Our Guy Chad Brando, Bearcat Journal 331 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: dot Com. Our Guy Rick Boring Musketeer Report dot Com 332 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: on the college football season. Also, the NKU radio broadcast 333 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: are the North is going to be any good. 334 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 6: It's another team where it's like when you're replacing nine 335 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 6: guys on your roster and turned over a lot and 336 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: the rest of the league is doing the same thing. 337 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 6: It's tough to say, but I think they've got they've 338 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 6: got a chance to be pretty good in the Horizon 339 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 6: League towards the time. 340 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: A lot of new guys, a lot of guys from 341 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: other countries. 342 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a really interesting group of guys, but 343 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: fun group to be around, really mature because some of 344 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 6: those guys, for like Ethan Elliot who they brought over 345 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 6: from Australia is gonna play point guard. Just a super 346 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 6: mature kid is into his twenties already, and it's a 347 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 6: little bit different when guys are trying to advance their 348 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 6: professional careers already. 349 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't super mature in my twenties. 350 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: I was around and that's super mature in my forties, 351 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: right me either. But the North chance there's Atty good 352 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: Rick seems pretty balanced now. He's done a good up 353 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: coming out of it. I don't think you and I ever, 354 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: I think well, he did spend the summer eating taco 355 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: bell for thirty one consecutive days. Maturity, that's a word 356 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: you could use, intestinal maturity. 357 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: What did that do to your body? 358 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: Nothing? 359 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 6: I was completely fine. It's what is taco bell. It's meat, 360 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 6: cheese and a tortilla. Why do people act like it's. 361 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: Twenty one straight days? If anything is not good? 362 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: If what do you normally eat at home? Meat cheese, 363 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: some bread? 364 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I guess so. 365 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 366 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 6: I mean, look people, if taco bell is ruining your stomach, 367 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 6: you've got bigger problems than time. 368 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: Did you go? 369 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: How many times? Like how many different taco bells did 370 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 3: you Visit was the same one. 371 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: It was mostly the Newport one, so they got to 372 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 6: know you. I was getting a little worried about that. 373 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 6: But I think they turn over employees so much as 374 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 6: soccer bells. 375 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: Why why did you stop at thirty one? Then why 376 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: not extend it? 377 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 6: I said, I could do that for an entire year. 378 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 6: The only problem is basketball season. It becomes inconvenient because 379 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 6: you're sometimes in a hotel that doesn't have a taco 380 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 6: bell anywhere nearby, and you don't have a car. And okay, 381 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 6: I'm not spending forty dollars on a door dash for 382 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 6: taco bell. 383 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: That's the issue. 384 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: Okay, fair but I could do that for an entire year. 385 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: Seriously, Okay, fair enough, Yeah, very good. 386 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: So we don't think the Musketeers are going to be 387 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: very good. 388 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a roughie. 389 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: And we don't think the Bearcats are going to be 390 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: as good as everybody expects, because I think there's an 391 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: expectation like, these guys are going to be awesome. 392 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: Here's the problem. They can be good and they're still 393 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 5: going to be walking this tightrope. Yeah, there's nothing in 394 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 5: my brain that says in that eight game window of 395 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 5: that they're going to go four and four. Yeah, if 396 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 5: you told me they were going to go four and four, 397 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: I'd say they're going to have a really good year. 398 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: I'm coming up two and six, three and five, Like 399 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: best case scenario. That means you gotta go six and ten, 400 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: seven and ten and all the other big twelve games. 401 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Right, that's a tall task, even if you're having a 402 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: good year. 403 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: So we've talked about this. It feels like last year, 404 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 3: accumulate talent, figure it out. This year, built a roster, right, 405 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: built guy who fits. 406 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: You got guards, you've got wings, you've got different kinds 407 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: of forwards. 408 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: You've got centers. Yeah, who is their best player going 409 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: to be? I think if they're. 410 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 5: Going to be tournament good, I think their best player 411 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 5: needs to be Bobby Miller because he's got he can 412 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: do the most things. Can play defense, can rebound, can shoot, 413 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 5: can pass, can handle the ball pretty well like I 414 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 5: think he is. They will go as far as his 415 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 5: upside allows. 416 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: Need to make bucket, He'll get it for you. 417 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm that's more of a guard thing, yeah, typically, 418 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 5: but like need to need to get a big rebound, 419 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: need to maybe stop a run, you can go to him. 420 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: I don't know in the final two minutes if I'm 421 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 5: isolating going one to four flat and throwing a lot 422 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: Ofba Miller per se. But I think just because of 423 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: the number of things he has the potential to do well, 424 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: he's the key. 425 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: Now. 426 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: There was an NBA scout friend of mine that was 427 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: in practice and he said, look, Bob, I is gonna 428 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 5: gonna have thirteen and six at halftime, and everybody's gonna 429 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 5: be flipping out about how awesome he is. He's gonna 430 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: end with fifteen and seven. And this is a scout 431 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 5: from a prominent NBA franchise that is near and dear 432 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: to Mo's heart. 433 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: Is the next guy potentially, so well, we're not going 434 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: to be in the lottery, but we'll take him. 435 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 5: He loves Mustapha Chom though, okay, loves him him in 436 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 5: his in his I think like late first, early second round. 437 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: So some of the UCF guys were here for the 438 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 3: football game and like still not they the other pissed 439 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: the man. 440 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: They're pissed. He's he's good, He's very good. Who's your 441 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: best player going to be? 442 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: That's another really good question. 443 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of questions with no answers today. 444 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 6: That's the problem when you think about this team and 445 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 6: why I have them losing a lot more games than 446 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 6: they're winning, because I there's a ton of questions and 447 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 6: I don't see clear answers to any of them. I think, 448 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: you know, Malik Messina more looks to be the best 449 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 6: offensive player and score to me. But I think overall, 450 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 6: Trey Carroll early on, at least through the first exhibition 451 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 6: and scrimmage and some of what we saw in the preseason, 452 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 6: looks to be the best all around player. And I 453 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: think what he does well, which is play really hard 454 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 6: pursue the ball, get fouled, make some shots, play efficiently 455 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 6: on offense. 456 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: You can rely on that. 457 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 6: With more consistency, then maybe you can rely on some 458 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 6: of the other guys games. 459 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: And the best part is him and Baba Miller shared 460 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: a position last year. 461 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 6: Will that that'd be the storyline we need for the 462 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 6: shootout to keep. 463 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: Its lust in. 464 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: Ye. 465 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, now the shootout's lost this year. This year, Doc 466 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 5: might be right here. This might be the year that 467 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 5: shoot out lose its luster. I can't wait to read 468 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: the column shout out the enquire But. 469 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: What if he goes the other way? 470 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: What it's back? 471 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: It's bad. This is the year slus season. 472 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: Williams write that column right now? The shootout is back 473 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty five. 474 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: Twenty six. 475 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: I think there is a sense though that if you 476 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: see can't win there this year, they're never gonna They 477 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: never will. 478 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 6: Does that make it back if you see finally breaks 479 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 6: that Kerson wins there, or it is the luster dead 480 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 6: because that was the expected that you s supposed to win. 481 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I have weeks to ponder that, 482 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: but I do think. I do think if you if 483 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: you ask Bearcat fans I mean they said that. We 484 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: said the same thing two years ago, right like, and 485 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: that was not a very good Xavier team and a 486 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: very good UC team. But I think there was a 487 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: sense of like, all right, if if they're ever gonna win, 488 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: it's in toss. It's got to be that game two 489 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 3: years ago they did not. I've I've listened to people 490 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: who love Xavier basketball who have said, like, this is 491 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: gonna be the year where they lose for the first 492 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: time in a quarter century that you see at home 493 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: and then every Bearcat fan goes, yeah, cool, one of 494 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: those dudes is gonna go five for seven from three. 495 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: Another guy, well, m h two thousand and six, the 496 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Andy Kennedy year No. 497 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: Two thousand well to December, December of two thousand, the 498 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 5: two thousand and six to seventh season they mixed ragtag. 499 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Sean Miller's first one where that that UC team, 500 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: which was dreadful, won two games in the Big East, 501 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 3: beat Xavior. 502 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: But that game was that U see right, But this 503 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: game is that Xavier, man, that's the parallel. 504 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: Yes, you're right now, You're right, Rick, Thank you for that. 505 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: It was not really a question there. 506 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: But thank you for that reference. Thank you for putting 507 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 6: it together for the I I've. 508 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: Lost for a second, but I feel like this is 509 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: most UC fans look at this in Xavier fans as 510 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 3: well as if it's if it's ever going to end 511 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: the streak of Xavier beating you see, it's sentas it's 512 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: it's going to be this year. 513 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, but I do feel like if they 514 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 6: don't win this one. I think I might have said 515 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: the same thing two years ago, but if they don't 516 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 6: win this one, they're never going to win at the 517 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 6: Sentas center feels. 518 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: Like is there you know you talk about like a 519 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: lot of the things that went down this offseason that 520 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: worked against Xavier. 521 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 5: Do you. 522 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: I think most of you the roster is underwhelming. Do 523 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: you put any of that on Richard? 524 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 6: I mean, ultimately, I guess everyone's going to be like 525 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 6: the head coach is responsible for the roster. But I 526 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: more than anything, the situation that Xavier was in this 527 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 6: year is one you're replacing an entirely new roster because 528 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 6: you lost your previous head coach, which is something that 529 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 6: almost every school seems to go through. Now, when you 530 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: lose your head coach, you got to replace it entirely new. 531 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 6: Roster to do that in the same year where you 532 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 6: had And granted NIL has been changing almost every year 533 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 6: every other year as we go anyway, so I'm not 534 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 6: sure there is like a standard for ANIL. But the 535 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 6: way it was operating the last two three years, all 536 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 6: of a sudden flipped on its head this one off 537 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 6: season while you were trying to do that put them 538 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 6: in a doubly bad position. 539 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: So that's where I put most of the blame. 540 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 6: I don't think it's anyone's fault per se, other than maybe, 541 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 6: you know, if you want to put it on xavi's 542 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: donors for not pouring out all of their financial earnings 543 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 6: over the course of my lifetimes, maybe it's on them. 544 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. 545 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: So go ahead, Did they bankroll it because you can technically. 546 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: I don't even know what you're asking right now. 547 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: The revenue share, the revenue share. 548 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. 549 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: What I mean. So, so the way it's. 550 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: Gonna be good financial lesson the. 551 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 5: Way that the calendar WI I could use that July 552 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: first is the fiscal year start, so you can spend 553 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: less on this roster all the way around to April 554 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: and then April to July have more for the more 555 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 5: for the following year, because there's a three month window 556 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 5: from the end of the season to the start of 557 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: the fiscal year that if you didn't spend everything that 558 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 5: you can spend on revenue share, you could hypothetically load 559 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: up for the next year you roll it over. 560 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 6: I did not know the scientific term was bankroll for that, 561 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 6: so that is on me. 562 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: I will I think I just heard that up. 563 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. 564 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 6: Also, I have not talked to it's financial people about 565 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 6: how they handle that exactly, so I'm not sure, but 566 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 6: I sense there's probably a little bit of like a. 567 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: Hey, we're in a really bad spot. 568 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 6: We're not going to spend an extra two hundred grand 569 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 6: to get a slightly more average player. We're gonna take 570 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: what we can get here and look forward to the future. 571 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 6: But they also did it with you know, they have 572 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 6: five sophomores those Billy wise, and you can't plan for 573 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 6: the future in this current era of basketball, but you 574 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 6: can try to promote the future and be like, hey, 575 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 6: hopefully a couple of these guys are good and we 576 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 6: can keep them around. 577 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I it just it feels weird. It feels weird. Look, 578 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: it's I think It's never been more difficult for a 579 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: first year head coach in any program. Obviously Rich Potino 580 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: has been a head coach. It just it feels weird 581 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: to talk about Xavier basketball in terms where we're wondering 582 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: if they're gonna lose twenty games before the season begins. 583 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's this is fair to say. 584 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 585 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: The one thing that I do think, you know, anytime 586 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 6: you get a new coaching staff, that's fun to see 587 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 6: what's the style going to look like? What different? So 588 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 6: are you going to see what type of players does 589 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 6: he like? And I think that is going to look 590 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 6: different from what Xavier fans have been and used to 591 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 6: over the last twenty plus years. Because one thing you 592 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: got to realize is, you know, Sean Miller took over 593 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 6: after Thamana and then basically everything since then has been 594 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 6: his design. You know, the coaches after him were from 595 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 6: his tree and kept what he did in place, including 596 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 6: the bastardized pack line back line defense. He has been 597 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 6: given up one hundred and fifty threes a game for 598 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 6: the last few years. In the current system of college basketball. 599 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 6: I think that's going to be the most exciting part 600 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: for fans is Let's see what it looks like with 601 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 6: a disruptive defense that puts pressure in fall screen situations 602 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 6: and forces turnovers and takes the action to the offensive players. 603 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: That's going to be the most fun part of the season. 604 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, I think it's cool they went outside 605 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 3: the family. And nothing against Chris Shawn times too, Travis. 606 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: It isn't, you know, be good or be interesting. It's 607 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: interesting that they went outside the family. And uh, it 608 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 3: just the way that team is being talked about doesn't 609 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: mesh with what you have come over the years to 610 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: expect Xavier basketball to be all about. And then then 611 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: you hear folks who cry poverty and they don't have 612 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: any money, and it's just this is a This feels 613 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: and sounds and looks different. 614 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be interesting when the season 615 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 6: actually gets going because Xavier fans are bracing themselves right 616 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 6: now for Okay, I think there's gonna be a rebuilding 617 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 6: or it's gonna be tough, But what's that actually look 618 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 6: like when you're four and for it to start the season. 619 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: Can they actually handle that part of it right? 620 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: Everybody says, you know, willing to put up with the 621 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: growing pains until they're deal actually dealing with them. 622 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 4: Yes, and I think that's going to be tough. 623 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: Did you see non conference schedule? Check all the boxes 624 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: you want a non conference schedule to. 625 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Check checked enough. 626 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 5: It's not great, it's but it's enough. Dayton, Xavier, Georgia, Cliffson, Louisville. 627 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 5: You've got the one big, big name game in Louisville. 628 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: I guess a couple teams that are going to be 629 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 5: in a similar situation to you on the on the 630 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 5: kind of that bubble area. I think with Georgia and Clemson, 631 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 5: Xavier's you know gonna probably be rough this year, but 632 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: in sentas, yeah, you never know. Yeah, and then Dayton's 633 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: probably going They're gonna stink, aren't they. I don't think 634 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: Dyton's gonna be very good. 635 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think based on what I hear, 636 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: I think. 637 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: Just one guy in this gambling thing, like you're gonna 638 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 5: have him on for locks of the weekend? 639 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: I might, I might, I might do that. What is 640 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: what is best case? What is best case? I mean 641 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: best cases? They make the tournament with ease, You wake 642 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: up on selection Sunday and you know they're in, and 643 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: again at the end of the day, it's the bram 644 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: and thatn everybody's gonna use. 645 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: Best case they finish fifth, okay, sixth in the Big 646 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 5: twelve and comfortably in and like five seed somewhere five 647 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 5: six seeds somewhere in. 648 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: The worst case involves you putting together a hotboard. 649 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, although I think it would have to be pretty 650 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: bad for that to happen. 651 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: But like not bubble and your team number sixty nine 652 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: or seven secs. 653 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: Think it's like if he misses that, he's automatically right, 654 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: you would have to apply context. Yes, all right, how's 655 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: it look? 656 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: Best case for the Musketeers. Best case everything goes. 657 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: Swimmingly well, yeah, and there is one thing to keep 658 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: an eye on. Two with that. 659 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 6: In terms of Gabriel Pizzato, the Evansville transfer, who, by 660 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 6: all accounts in the summer looked like maybe the top 661 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 6: player on the roster. If he does come back a 662 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 6: little earlier than expected and he starts playing well and 663 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 6: things start to click, then maybe you know, Xavier's looking 664 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 6: more at like six or seventh in the Big East. 665 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 6: Like I said, I think the bottom of the Big 666 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 6: East is going to be really mediocre to bad this year, 667 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,719 Speaker 6: So I think it's reasonable to think they could come 668 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 6: in closer to like five hundred overall, maybe sixteen and fifteen, 669 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 6: fifteen and sixteen, something like that, and you go, you 670 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 6: win seven or eight games in the Big East. 671 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: I think that would be like five hundred. 672 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: It's like the gay to cross five hundred and you 673 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: feel really good. 674 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 7: Okay. 675 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: I think that's kind of the best case scenario for 676 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: them this. 677 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Year, and k you can win the Horizon League. 678 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: I think that's in play. 679 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. 680 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 6: I mean that's without knowing they're not going to be, 681 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: you know, picked in the top three. 682 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: But I think they're definitely in contention for sure. 683 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: And Kentucky fans are really exciting and Mark Pope's team 684 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: is going to be really. 685 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 5: Good, right anything. I keep hearing this twenty two number 686 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: tossed around. Somebody mentioned to me last week they might 687 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 5: be closer to a forty million dollars roster than a 688 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 5: twenty million dollars roster. I think people are under I 689 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: watched the Purdue game, Man. 690 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 6: Do you understand what that means for like every player 691 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 6: on that roster, like Trent Noah's getting three million dollars. 692 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: I find that hard to believe. 693 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 694 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: But see that's part of it that I think a 695 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: lot of us can't wrap our brains getting six asked. 696 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: I get asked this all the time. What does so 697 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: and so make? You could tell me it's forty five 698 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 3: K a year. You could tell me it's four point 699 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: five million a year. I do, I have no idea? 700 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: Should we know more than we make? 701 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: Should we know? I mean, would I all I had 702 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot, I hold yeah. 703 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: I hold onto the belief that it would be more 704 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: fun if we had no idea what athletes made, it 705 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: would just we. 706 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Would It would be more fun. 707 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: Now how we talk about roster construction would change and 708 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: I get all that. Do you want to know what 709 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: college basketball player is getting paid? 710 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 6: I think the ambiguity is going to create more problems because, 711 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: like we already saw with the kid at BYU, the 712 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 6: top freend in the country this year, A J. Dabantsa, 713 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 6: everyone's reporting he got eight million dollars to go there, 714 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 6: seven million dollars to go there. Truth is, it sounds 715 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 6: like it was more like three and a half four 716 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 6: million to go there, right, So, I mean, these numbers 717 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 6: are all over the place, and either way, whatever the 718 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 6: rumors are, fans are going to run with whatever the 719 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 6: highest dollar amount is. Use that for pressure, use that 720 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 6: for why the guy is a bust, all those types 721 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 6: of things. I think at some point it's almost going 722 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 6: to be better to have the real information out there. 723 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: When are they going to expand the tournament? How much 724 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: am I gonna hate it? 725 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be next year. It's gonna stink. It's gonna stink. Yeah, 726 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: nobody wants it. I don't want it, but I'm gonna 727 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: watch more basketball. 728 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah sure, I'm gonna watch, but I don't watch it. 729 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: I have ten people for you and Skinny to rank 730 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: their careers tomorrow night. 731 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Come up with this. 732 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 4: How many of them do you think I would know? 733 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: Uh? You know what? Probably not well. 734 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: One you'll know, okay, because one's a former colleague of viewers, 735 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: So shout out to Gary Miller. It's not Gary Miller, 736 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: but Hawkins. Artrell Hawkins is not on here. But there's 737 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: the list, and thank you. 738 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: Just get taken to Skinny ten am tomorrow. 739 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: We'll be recorded in advance. Thank you for joining me 740 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: every week, both of you during the season. We'll talk 741 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: football tomorrow tomorrow you and I chat and Rick wolchat 742 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: next Wednesday, and thank you so much as always, thank you. 743 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: Thanks bo all right, love it lifting, It really was. 744 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: Can't wait for the season to begin. 745 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: Doo hoops. 746 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: Well there's always the Reds. I might the Bengals game 747 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: Plan show is next. We always have Dan Horden Dave 748 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: Lapham to make us feel better. They are next. We 749 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: are back tomorrow at three oh five. Thanks to Tarren 750 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 3: Bland for producing. Thanks to you for listening, and have 751 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: a great night. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 752 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC Health Traffic 753 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Center with a broke. 754 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 7: Every second counts, and so does your team home to 755 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 7: rapid life saving treatment and clinical trials. You see health 756 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 7: as the clear choice for stroke care. Learn more at 757 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 7: ucehealth dot com. Reading Road remains closed down in both 758 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 7: directions due to an accident between Paddock and Asmon Avenue 759 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 7: East found Fort Washington Way. 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