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Speaker 3: Let's go, everybody, Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Was back as I can remember. I always wanted to

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Speaker 3: be against SHD. Just easy, get it in here?

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Speaker 2: What Conny is wide?

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Speaker 3: Don't it? And Randall fires it off of more eventful

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Speaker 4: Turner, it went out of bounds.

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Speaker 5: The clock expired, and the Timberwolves one three to one hundred.

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Speaker 5: They've staffed the three game losing streak to the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: That is Alan Horton calling the end of a Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Timberwolves victory over the Milwaukee Bucks. And welcome to nine

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Speaker 3: to noon. It's Paul Allen Noordu by my side and

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Speaker 3: uh Brett Blakemore guides the great Chip Left Covenant from

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Speaker 3: f M one hundred point three kfa N. We are

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Speaker 3: very happy to be joined by Chris Finch, coach of

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves, courtesy of Second Harvest Heartland and two

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Speaker 3: Harvest Dot Org. Good luck, Good good morning, Chris.

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Speaker 6: How are you on fine Pa? Good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: How are you doing pretty well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Nick's at Target Center tonight. They they won

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Speaker 3: eight of nine. You guys have won eight of ten.

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Speaker 3: Should be a hum Dinger tonight. What do you think.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're looking forward to it, and one of the

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Speaker 6: one of the top teams in the league. They're coming

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Speaker 6: off with cup their Cup victory the other day. Uh,

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Speaker 6: playing with a ton of ton of momentum. Uh, and uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, really hard team to to guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're they're gonna sit Jalen Brunson this evening with

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Speaker 3: ankle management. How do you think that changes the game?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, of course, like, uh, you know, he's

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Speaker 6: twelve and seven without him in the last two years.

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Speaker 6: That's a pretty good, pretty good percentage of wins there.

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Speaker 6: And they got a lot of talented players. We know,

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Speaker 6: Cats still a threat. They played with great connectivity on offense,

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Speaker 2: They're not just relying on one guy.

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Speaker 3: Probably, you know, before picks and switches and everything. Probably Uh.

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Speaker 3: Did you did you happen to see Adlman Saturday night?

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Speaker 3: He got mad Saturday night like you did Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw.

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Speaker 3: What just just like overall, what what what are you

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Does it come down to more consistency?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, that's what everyone's gonna say, That's what

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Speaker 2: And we've all been around the league.

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Speaker 3: Friday night, when you were walking away by the bench,

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Speaker 3: Because I you know, I I know the officials, you know,

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Speaker 3: Not how it goes, you know, and I know you

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Speaker 6: Well, any any disciplinary process, the league has a protocol

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Speaker 2: Call, you.

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Speaker 3: So and the fine was thirty five k I mean,

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Speaker 3: Did you expect it to be for Toyota Prius? Did

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Speaker 2: Be a little less pa to be honest, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Chris Finch, coach of the Minnesota timber Welfs court to

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Speaker 3: see of second Harvest heartlanda two harvest dot org. I. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: good work by your staff. I mean, because we're six

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, we got I got a great staff,

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Speaker 6: they just kept pushing the guys to stay aggressive, you know,

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Speaker 3: So when you when you were watching the final three

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Speaker 6: But the guys, like I said, did a really good

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Speaker 3: Well, the I mean the foul on Edwards and that

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Speaker 2: You're just expected to be able to handle those moments.

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Speaker 6: Conversation that you would have to have with refereeing refereeing

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Speaker 3: We have to improve with at least the basic calls.

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Speaker 3: You think that happened.

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, brother. I greatly appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you doo.

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Speaker 3: Paul Allen. This is nine to noon.

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Speaker 3: Bye wins for JJ.

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Speaker 7: Twelve days of a Vikings Christmas. We do it every year.

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Speaker 7: It's nine to noon. I'm Paul Allen, buttnordo.

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Speaker 9: On the first day of Chris miss My Vikings game

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Speaker 3: Yes, Sir.

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Speaker 9: On the fourth day of Chris miss Our Vikings gave

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Speaker 4: For Byron Murphy Junior, Yes, Sir.

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Speaker 3: On the eighth day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I went to Byron Murphy Jr.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Detroit Lyons are next on the entertainment docket.

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Speaker 3: they get bashful. Yeah, we were in the business where

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Speaker 3: our names and opinions are on radio. Yeah. Behind the

438
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Speaker 3: sceners don't want to hear the old spearfish Sammy. They

439
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Speaker 3: prefer to stay behind the scenes and one hear the

440
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: old Lewiston al teaching lessons for decades assumably for profit.

441
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Speaker 4: Keepers of the intel tipers of the coats.

442
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Speaker 3: It's cold in your building, okay, so that's why I'm

443
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Speaker 3: wearing this weird co Okay. Three two, God bless all

444
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: of you. Sequacy at ten thirty five, laying out the Lions.

445
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: Laying out the Lions doesn't necessarily mean, like, you know,

446
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: putting them on their backs. And yeah, Mama said, knock

447
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: Jared Goff out. I'm gonna knock Jared out. That'd be cool.

448
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: Laying out the Lions goes like this. And it's off

449
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Speaker 3: of text that in order sent me middle of the

450
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Speaker 3: afternoon yesterday just about you know where these two teams

451
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: were this time last year and week eighteen last year,

452
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Speaker 3: and I believe at near the end of the equation,

453
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Speaker 3: I think we had twenty nine combined wins and five

454
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Speaker 3: combined losses at the end of the equation. Yeah, so

455
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Speaker 3: with what's different, what's the same with them? Yea, The

456
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: Vikings and Lions had that gaudy, those gaudy ballyhooed records

457
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 3: last year and both got bounced in their first playoff

458
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: games and both got smashed and said playoff games. For

459
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: the Vikings it was the Rams down Arizona Way, and

460
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Speaker 3: for the Motor City Kitties it was at Ford Field

461
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Speaker 3: against Jaden Daniels and the Washington Commanders. So their box.

462
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Speaker 3: Dan Miller is next segment about fifteen minutes from now

463
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Speaker 3: and he'll probably go g Annoby on a couple of

464
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: my takes here, being like, well, actually, Paul, we've thrown

465
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Speaker 3: it five times to Dan Skipper in the last three games.

466
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Speaker 3: But nevertheless, there we talk about the vikings so frequently

467
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Speaker 3: that we are so immersed within this covenant that that

468
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: we know a lot of things that are going on

469
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Speaker 3: and potentially need to be fixed in the offseason. But

470
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Speaker 3: what about doo gies. It's the Lions. What has dramatic

471
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: changed with them to lead to that eight and seven record.

472
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Speaker 3: The lowest of low hanging fruit ever to hang would

473
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Speaker 3: be their offensive coordinator Ben Johnson leaving and going to

474
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Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears. Their defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn has left. Oh,

475
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Speaker 3: Tom West, thank you very much for that scarf. I'm cold, man,

476
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 3: But I want to tell anybody around here I'm cold

477
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Speaker 3: because then I got to take nineteen different tests and everything.

478
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get to claycy Hey. Okay, thank you

479
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Speaker 3: very much for the Thank you. Tom, don't leave home

480
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Speaker 3: without him. The best they are. They're very carrying, very

481
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: loving the airing. Glenn leaving, Yeah it matters, but there

482
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: are some things popping up with the Lions. That are

483
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Speaker 3: analogous to last year. Yeah, but they were able to

484
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Speaker 3: overcome them and then they got they get some time

485
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Speaker 3: off and they came back in the playoffs. And you know,

486
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Speaker 3: the way I put it last year was the elasticity

487
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: had been stretched too far and the whole thing just

488
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Speaker 3: popped with these injuries in everything. But consider this. The

489
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions were seventh in fourth down conversions last year

490
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Speaker 3: and they go for it on fourth down a lot

491
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Speaker 3: of times. It's a Dan Campbell thing. After getting stopped

492
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Speaker 3: on down Sunday against Pittsburgh, I think they're now twentieth

493
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Speaker 3: heading into Week sixteen. So we've gone top ten to

494
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Speaker 3: bottom twelve. The Detroit Lions allowed two hundred and thirty

495
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Speaker 3: rushing yards to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They only had six

496
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Speaker 3: games last year where they gave up more than one

497
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Speaker 3: hundred and alien McNeil, Aiden Hutchinson and DJ Reider and

498
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: Jack Campbell their best run stoppers, they're all playing. They

499
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Speaker 3: gave up two point thirty on the ground to Pittsburgh,

500
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Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh not necessarily a run first operation. This, you know,

501
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Speaker 3: this is one that gets me here in watching back

502
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: Lion stuff yesterday, they never run trick plays anymore. They

503
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Speaker 3: just I mean they were a trick a minute. They

504
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: would run tricks in the first quarter of the fourth

505
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Speaker 3: game to set up something in the third or fourth

506
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Speaker 3: quarter of the fifteenth game. They never run trick plays anymore.

507
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: Branch and Joseph probably the best safety's duo in the NFL.

508
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: They're both out. I don't know if any of them

509
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Speaker 3: are coming back this Thursday, but Branch and Joseph are out.

510
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: So injuries again for these guys. Terry Arnold is on

511
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: IR yep, and he's on IR. Ben Johnson as the

512
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Speaker 3: Bears the story of the National Football League, so, I

513
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: mean that has to bug people there too. With that

514
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Speaker 3: win Saturday night, the Chicago Bears have only for a

515
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Speaker 3: week or the story of the National Football League, man,

516
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're going for a one seed in the

517
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Speaker 3: going for a one seed and a division championship in

518
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Speaker 3: the NFC. The Lions ran for fifteen yards on Sunday,

519
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: all right, and Gibbs and Montgomery played. Just listen to that.

520
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions in a football game late in the season,

521
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: they had to have ran for fifteen yards, and Jamier

522
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: Gibbs and David Montgomery both played the entire game. That's

523
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Speaker 3: that's the lowest total for the Kiddies since like nineteen seventy.

524
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Laporta and brock Right super important. Tight Ends are very

525
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: very important to this offense, especially to Jared Goff. Sam

526
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: Laporta and brock Wright. They're both all done. I mean

527
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: it's over, Johnny. I think they're done for the year,

528
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: but they ain't playing New London. Spicer's Shane Zilstra is

529
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: now playing a ton and he never scored a touchdown.

530
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: So remember when the Vikings beat the Lions at Ford

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Speaker 3: Field earlier this season November second, The season signature victory

532
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 3: was November second, Sam Laporta had sixty six yards and

533
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: a forty yard touchdown on the first drive of the game.

534
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: He did sixty six yards and a forty yard touchdown

535
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Speaker 3: the first drive of the game, but then b flow

536
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: went to Flemoxing, Flora settled in and Laporta at thirty

537
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: yards and nothing the rest of the way. Tight Ends

538
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: are very, very very important to what is now Dan

539
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: Campbell's offense. Golf is going to be sacked more this

540
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: year than he was the last two with Ben Johnson.

541
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Speaker 3: When the Vikings beat the kiddies at Ford Field very

542
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: early November November two, Dan Campbell took the play calling

543
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: after the game from Ben Johnson's replacement, John Morton, and

544
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell now calls offense. It's like b Flow rolls

545
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: in there and goes to flumoxing, And this is a

546
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator on whom they're counting. Campbell got so

547
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: pissed off he took the play calling from him and

548
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: Dan the man who's not on the fan, he calls

549
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: the plays. Now they can still score, all right, they

550
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: can still run up and down the field on you

551
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: should be careful. But it ain't the same as last year. No,

552
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: the Lions have lost two in a row. How about this,

553
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: The Lions have lost two in a row during the

554
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: season for the first time since twenty twenty two, That

555
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: was the year Ben Johnson became their offensive coordinator. See

556
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: a common thread here, y'all. So what about us? The

557
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: only thing with us? The Brozemer sideline passed to Jefferson

558
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: was big. If he gets his third start off the layoff,

559
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: which which would be you know, his his opportunity off Seattle,

560
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: then coming in second half and helping the win at

561
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Speaker 3: met Life and then starting here, if he gets this

562
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: opportunity third off, the layoff that pass to Jefferson was big.

563
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: He should be better for the opportunity if he if

564
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: he can handle things on a short week. We're still

565
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: hoping JJ McCarthy plays. But with the Detroit Lions, there

566
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: are just some stark there are some stark contrasts from

567
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: last year to this year, and they're unveiling themselves before

568
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Speaker 3: your very ears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I went over the final eight, so that their last

571
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Speaker 7: eight games. That was their bye week when we when

572
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 7: we went to ford Field, they were fresh off the buy,

573
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 7: ready to rock. They were five and two Vikings win

574
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 7: from that game on. With that game on final eight,

575
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 7: they're averaging twenty nine points a game.

576
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Speaker 4: So there are different things about the offense. You mentioned,

577
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Speaker 4: just the inability to run the BA I think they

578
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Speaker 4: I mean, of.

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Speaker 7: Their last eight, four of them they've rushed for fewer

580
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Speaker 7: than seventy four yards, very unkiddies, like in the Dan

581
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Speaker 7: Campbell era. But they're still finding their way to thirty

582
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 7: points a game. I think they're averaging twenty nine over

583
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 7: their last eight. So for me, my focus has been

584
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 7: and you know, trying to figure out that O line.

585
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 7: Frank ragnow to the point where he was going to

586
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 7: come out of retirement and then couldn't do it, and

587
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 7: just Ratledge and what they're getting on that interior o line,

588
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 7: that's something they'll focus on. But just the elastic is

589
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 7: the elasticity that you mentioned and it kind of popping

590
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 7: as it did last year, it has happened again and

591
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 7: that's why I focus so much. You mentioned Kirby, Joseph

592
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 7: and Brian Branch being out, Terry and Arnold the injuries

593
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 7: have reared their ugly heads together. They're averaging twenty seven

594
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 7: points against in their last eight games, and I'm just

595
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 7: going to go to the last five. These are their

596
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 7: yards allowed in their last five games. Five seventeen to

597
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 7: the Giant Geez, three point fifty nine to the pack.

598
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: Five seventeen to that Giants operation we saw without Scataboo

599
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: and Malakue neighbors, that is correct, Are you kidding me?

600
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 7: And it took overtime for them to beat the Giants.

601
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 7: Then they lost to the Packers. They gave up three

602
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 7: point fifty nine to Jordan Loves Group, four seventeen to

603
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 7: those Cowboys, five nineteen to the Rams, and four eighty one.

604
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: Yester or two days ago.

605
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 7: Now to the Steelers, the yards are there to be had,

606
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 7: and I mean, look at just how weird it is

607
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 7: the way we talk in Minnesota.

608
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: Hey, if Kevin O'Connell.

609
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 7: Either ties or wins the turnover margin in the game,

610
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 7: here's this super gaudy record.

611
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: I think Alex Lewis has like a tally.

612
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: On a chalkboard in his apartment to make sure that

613
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Speaker 7: he keeps track of the correct number. Look at the

614
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 7: they're winning the turnover battle. They were tied with the

615
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Speaker 7: Giants and Packers. They were up three to nothing in

616
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Speaker 7: the Cowboys.

617
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 4: That was a win.

618
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Speaker 7: But they won the turnover battle in both the Rams

619
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 7: and Steelers games and still lose. So there, their defense

620
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 7: is giving up a million yards. They are creating opportunity,

621
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Speaker 7: but the defense in totality over the course of games

622
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 7: isn't getting it done. The fourth down offense them going

623
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Speaker 7: away with no points and nothing off of some of

624
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 7: those fourth down plays that they want to run.

625
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: The lack of.

626
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 7: Tricks, this truly is. And you feel for Lions fans.

627
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 7: I mean, they're not too far removed from putting paper

628
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 7: bags on their heads and going to these games and

629
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 7: then suddenly they think they might be on the verge

630
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 7: of a Brady led dynasty, and just a couple of

631
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 7: years into this, now it's like injury concerns. Do we

632
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 7: want to pay these guys? Did we make the right investment?

633
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 7: The o lines and shambles, and just in very quick order,

634
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 7: we go from two teams playing for the one seed

635
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 7: to a year later celebrating Christmas with a couple of

636
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 7: teams that are drowning. The Vikings have already been eliminated.

637
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 7: The Kiddy's got to win both and hope that the

638
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 7: dirty Packers lose out just to get their way into

639
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 7: a wild card. Graz one freaking year has flipped all

640
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 7: of this on its head really for both teams. As

641
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 7: we're laying out the Lions, but of course we're in

642
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 7: some ways lamenting our favorite squad in the process.

643
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 4: And that's what we're looking at. On a Christmas afternoon

644
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 4: to day.

645
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: This is nine to noon.

646
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 4: Were some school Pittsburgh shows. Five across that defensive front.

647
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 10: Goff's got it all fourth down, back looking looking golf

648
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 10: throwing middle caught lee right side, had zone touchdown. Detroit

649
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 10: Lions had a step on the defender, and there was

650
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 10: nobody between him and the end zone toy seven yards.

651
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 10: The Lions are right back in this game.

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00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: Dan the Man who now was on the fan. He's

653
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Speaker 3: Dan Miller, long time talented play by play voice for

654
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Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions, and I'm also the sports director and

655
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: talent at the Fox affiliate and the Motor City And

656
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Speaker 3: Dan the Man joins us now, Dan Miller, Merry Christmas,

657
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: Happy Holidays to you and your family. Brother, How are

658
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: things hey?

659
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Speaker 2: Thanks are good, Pia, good to talk to you. Merry

660
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: Christmas to you and all your listeners.

661
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Speaker 3: If if I had texted you flying back from New

662
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: Jersey or found a way to like call you when

663
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: we landed or something after that Pittsburgh debacle, would you

664
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: have said things are good, Pa, Merry Christmas to you

665
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: and your family and sounded all jovial and everything that

666
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: into that game. Man, we played your highlight yesterday. What

667
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: a tough play to call a but b that whole

668
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: thing just seemed like you worked on your last nerve.

669
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't really. I thought the play would go

670
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: over when they had amen Ross stacked up, and I

671
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: think half the Pittsburgh defense did too when they because

672
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: most of them stopped playing and the defenders that were

673
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: on them kind of pushed them, so at that point

674
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: you think it's kind of over. Then he flips it

675
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: the golf and golf dives in and at that point

676
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: you really had no idea what was going on. And

677
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: then there's two flags in the end zone and you

678
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: know you're hoping maybe ones against them and ones against us,

679
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: but it appeared certainly there was OPI from the beginning,

680
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: so it took a long time to unfold, and we

681
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: were trying to guess during that time, and it was difficult,

682
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: and you were just hoping there was some sliver of

683
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: a chance that it might turn out that you get

684
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: another crack at this thing, or that maybe it was

685
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh, which appeared highly unlikely from the beginning. So

686
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: it was really that whole sequence, the four plays, and

687
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: you had two opis that wipe two touchdowns off the boards,

688
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: and thank the look that that was offensive pass interference

689
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: on Amen Rod. When they see you go into a defender,

690
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: fully extend your arms and that defender flies backwards, and

691
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: particular when that defender is probably give me be in

692
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame one day in Ramsey, he's going

693
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: to get that call and no argument with that. The

694
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: one on Tesla before that might have a little bit

695
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: of difference on that, but look, they that was the

696
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: final minute of the game. There were fifty nine other

697
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: minutes in that game where they didn't play well enough

698
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm eight and seven for the Lions Vikings out

700
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: of the playoffs. I mean, these two teams want to

701
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: combine twenty nine games last year and lost five and

702
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: you know in starting the short wait work on them

703
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: on your team. It's injuries to key players again, man,

704
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: I mean just it was a longer common thread last

705
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: year and you guys pushed through it beautifully. Laporta right,

706
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Speaker 3: the safety's best safety tannem in the NFL. I mean,

707
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: these things are big, man, aren't they.

708
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Speaker 2: It is, there's no doubt, and it's there's a lot

709
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: to it, and certainly that's part of it. You know,

710
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: they went seven games without points off of turnovers, which

711
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: has really been right up into that Rams game, which

712
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: has really been you know, the bread and butter for

713
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: this team. The defense would take it away. In the offense,

714
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, would be able to rush it down the

715
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: field and score, and your two scores up and then

716
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: you build on that and that's the way they won games,

717
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: and that disappeared, and some of that was, certainly Kirby

718
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Joseph being gone. You could just feel some of the

719
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: passes that hung in the air, the ones that he

720
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: used to run under and steal. And then losing Brian Branch,

721
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: who's the chess piece on that defense that Kelvin Shepherd

722
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: can use to move all over the place. And then offensively,

723
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: the port is a big guy. I think one of

724
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: the things that we all underestimated from the beginning was

725
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: the loss of Frank rag Now with his retirement and

726
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: brief comeback. Man that was so big. Just just having

727
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: that dude in the middle of that line before the snap,

728
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: after snap, after the snap just meant so much to

729
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: this defense. And I think that's taken away some of

730
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: the identity of this team. This team has been built

731
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: around that offensive line since the day they walked in

732
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: the door and drafted Piney Sewell and added him to

733
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Speaker 2: Decor and rag Now and then everybody else that came along,

734
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: and that identity hasn't been there. That ability to run

735
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: the ball consistently hasn't been there, and it feels like

736
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: an odd conversation Pa, because for most of the season

737
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: they led the league in scoring, but it just has

738
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: not felt that way often enough. And then defensively, man

739
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: their ability to stop the run, which has been top

740
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: five in the league the last two years, has not

741
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: been anywhere close to that and that's really hurt them

742
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: as well.

743
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: That two thirty against Pittsburgh. I mean, game Weell and

745
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: Warren can move a little bit, the quarterback never runs.

746
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: That's a two thirty man, And you know, like last

747
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: year it's I think only like six times teams went

748
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 3: over one hundred or one hundred and ten or something

749
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: against you guys. But you know, the rag Now piece

750
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: probably answers this question. But when I was watching it

751
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: flying back and then playing box score catchup, Gibbs and

752
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 3: Montgomery both played and the Lions ran for fifteen yards.

753
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? With that number? I thought I'd

754
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: never see that.

755
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: And seventeen was on one run. We had in the

756
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: first half at least three guys coming off the edge untouched. Wow,

757
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: four tackles for loss in the running game. And it

758
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: just there's just something missing there, and it's been missing

759
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: for a while. And you know, we've had a couple

760
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: of games where certainly Gibbs has been really good and

761
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Demo had a won fifty one earlier this year, but

762
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: it just hasn't been as consistent as it has been

763
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: in the past. And trace that back to the offensive line.

764
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: And then people will talk about coordinators, and you know,

765
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: nothing against Ben Johnson and nothing against Aaron Glenn, and

766
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: we do miss them. They're really good football coaches. But

767
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: I think this team misses Frank rag now more. I

768
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: think they missed that, that presence in the middle of

769
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: that line, and then that running game. And again, I

770
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: can't stress enough that, you know, you can talk about

771
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: Gibbs and Amen Ra and Garrett Golf and all those

772
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: guys and everybody else, this team took its strength from

773
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: that offensive line. Every time they walked on the field

774
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: with those guys, they felt like whatever type of game

775
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: you wanted to throw at them, they were going to

776
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: be able to handle it. You want to go slow,

777
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: you want to grind it out, they can do that.

778
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: You want to have a track meet, they can do that.

779
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: But it was because of that offensive line, and right

780
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: now it's just not the same. Decker has been banged

781
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: up a lot of the year playing Hurt hasn't practiced

782
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: some weeks and then goes out on Sunday and plays.

783
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: And you know, losing Zeidler last year that was significant

784
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: as well. I mean he held down one of those

785
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: guard spots. Now we're you know, playing Christian Mahogany and

786
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Tate Ratlet's two guys who had virtually no experience. One

787
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: was a rookie and moment basically a rookie coming into

788
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: this year. So look, it's just these are things that

789
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: happen along the way. I still think this team has

790
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: a lot of talent. They're just gonna have to regroup

791
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: in this offseason, assuming a miracle doesn't happen here in

792
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, and figure some things out.

793
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: But much like you guys, there's a ton of talent here.

794
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: You're just gonna have to shore some things up and

795
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: figure some things out. And I don't see either of

796
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: these teams, you know, beginning this long descent into a

797
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: rebuild or something like that. I see these teams with

798
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: problems that have cropped up you got to deal with

799
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: in the offseason, and you're gonna come back next year,

800
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: and I think you're gonna be area.

801
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: Again, Dan, the Vikings haven't given up a passing touchdown

802
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 3: in six consecutive games. And okay, Jackson Dart was a

803
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: disaster when we saw him, and you got Jaden Daniels

804
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: off at dislocated elbow with Marcus Mariota, but you also

805
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: have Jordan Love, Caleb William, Sam Darnold, and there was

806
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: another high enduring Dak Prescott.

807
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 9: You know.

808
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: So, I mean, how flabbergasted would you be if the

809
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: Lions left Christmas Day's game with no passing touchdowns against

810
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: a team that hasn't given given up one in a

811
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: month and a half.

812
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't expect that, But you know that that's

813
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Minnesota. It's just, you know, also a

814
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: lot of respect for the Lions and their ability to

815
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: pass the ball. And again, even as we said here today,

816
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: they're the second highest scoring team in the league, so

817
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: we've been putting points up. Now. That said, what we

818
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: did against the Vikings in that first game doesn't give

819
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: you a lot of confidence. What they did against that

820
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: defense in the four times they faced when Flores was

821
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: the coordinator before that did give you confidence. They scored

822
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: at least thirty each time, and they won all four

823
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: of those games, but last time out, they didn't handle

824
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: the pressure, they didn't adjust her in the game, and

825
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: Minnesota just kind of had their way with them and

826
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: they bullied them. And the Lions are gonna have to

827
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: be a lot better than that in this game or

828
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: passing touchdown or not, it's going to be difficult to win.

829
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: They've got to be significantly better that first game. Dan

830
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: Campbell said it earlier this week was probably the worst

831
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: game that the Lions had played this year. And that's

832
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: saying something about the way the Lions played, and it's

833
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: saying a lot about the way the Vikings played because

834
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: they came in to Ford Field and just ran right

835
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: over them on defense. And I mean literally, I mean

836
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: how many times did Jamier Gibbs just get trucked by

837
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: a linebacker blitzing? And that was putting him in a

838
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: tough spot all day And I'd be shocked if they

839
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: put him in that spot again coming up this week,

840
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: because it just it was a mismatch and it's not

841
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: it's not conducive to him last in a long time

842
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: one game day if you have that many collisions.

843
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: So that November two, Dan, last one here Vikings went

844
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: at Ford Field, which hasn't happened a lot of late

845
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: and and Dan Campbell, the head coach, becomes the offensive

846
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: play caller, taking it from new guy John Morton. Why

847
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: did he do that at that time? And how has

848
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: it worked out?

849
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: It's just been an inconsistent offense all year and the

850
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: results have been mixed. You know, they went into Washington

851
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 2: the week after that, I believe was the next game,

852
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: and Washington was terrible, and they were just you know,

853
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: beginning a you know, crash landing this year. And we

854
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: threw up whatever it was, fifty two points or something

855
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: like that and or forty four or whatever it was

856
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: and had a big game. But since then it's been spotty.

857
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 2: And again it's it's not like they're not scoring, but it's, yeah,

858
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: we see droughts we haven't seen before the Rams game,

859
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: we played really well in the first half. We have

860
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: twenty four to seventeen first three possessions, the second half

861
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: three and out, three and out, three and out, and

862
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: Stafford's doing what he does on the other side, and

863
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you go from being ten up

864
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 2: at one point to ten down. So it's just been

865
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: productive overall. But two inconsistent to beat the better teams

866
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: in this league, and then you're playing catch up and

867
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: maybe you're scoring points, but if you're scoring points there

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00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: two scores down, it kind of defeats the purpose. So

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00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: it's been a strange year, man, and it just kind

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Speaker 2: of you are where you are. You got to finish

871
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: it strong. There's still a chance to get in the playoffs.

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00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: You got a little you got a ton of pride

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00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: to play for, and there's still a lot of talent.

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00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 2: Now I see both these teams. You guys have won

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00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: three in a row, and that's great, and that shows

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00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: a lot of character and a lot of fight when

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00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 2: you know a lot of your season had been a disappointment.

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00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: So we need to apply that same type of attitude

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Speaker 2: to coming off that Pittsburgh loss, which basically decimated your

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00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: playoff hopes. But you've got two games left against division opponents.

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00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: Go out and win them, finish this thing strong, and

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00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: then figure out what comes next.

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Speaker 3: God bless you and your family, and I'll see you Thursday.

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00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks for the time.

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00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: Appreciate your brother's same to you and yours.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a Dan Miller boxed for the Lions

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Speaker 3: back after this