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Speaker 1: Where we go.

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Speaker 2: It was forty seven hours and thirty minutes ago that

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Speaker 2: we were sitting there getting ready for that game. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you noticed the same thing, Dick that

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Speaker 2: I did, but with about an hour and a half

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Speaker 2: before kickoff, that place was packed on Sunday at Levi Stadium,

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Speaker 2: and it was really cool to see how many people

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I'm starting to get now really

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Speaker 2: excited about tomorrow because I remember the funnest part of

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Speaker 2: the twenty thirteen season was the parade. And the morning

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Speaker 2: of the parade, me and a guy named Brian Apker,

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Speaker 2: the captain captain in the car shop half and rode

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Speaker 2: up to the parade site just grinning like morons from

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Speaker 2: ear to ear, no stress. Everybody was happy. Ninety percent

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Speaker 2: of the people that were there were pied already by

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock in the morning. This is what tomorrow is

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Speaker 2: going to be all about. It's going to be the

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Speaker 2: most fun. If you consider tomorrow to be a sporting event,

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Speaker 2: which I do. We're celebrating the Seahawks, we are celebrating

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Speaker 2: a championship, we are getting the twelves together. They're saying

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Speaker 2: maybe a million people. They're telling us not to use

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Speaker 2: our cars to get to the town. I got no

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Speaker 2: idea how we're all gonna get there. I ain't just

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Speaker 2: spend the night by the way at the Silver Cloud.

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be a freaking mess with this revive.

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Speaker 2: I five stuff we're going through. I hope everybody brings

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Speaker 2: their patience. You know, if I were you, honestly, man,

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Speaker 2: you know what I would do. I'd bring three things drinks, snacks,

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Speaker 2: and toilet paper because you might need all of it,

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Speaker 2: by the way, during the parade tomorrow, because fighting a

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Speaker 2: public bathroom.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, good luck. That's one thing I remember about

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Speaker 2: the parade twelve years ago. I remember going to New

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Speaker 2: York City. My wife and I went to Times Square

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Speaker 2: for New Year's Eve about twenty years ago. I'll never

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Speaker 2: do it again. I'm glad I did it, but I'll

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Speaker 2: never do it again. They put you in an intersection.

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Speaker 2: They lock you in there for eight or nine hours,

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Speaker 2: and if you got to go, you're done.

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Speaker 3: Just go. They're not letting out go depend.

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Speaker 2: They're not letting you out, they're not letting you back

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Speaker 2: in I'm not saying tomorrow is gonna be like New

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Speaker 2: Year's even Times Square in New York City, but you know,

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Speaker 2: if you find yourself often needing a restroom, I would

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Speaker 2: just prepare. That's all I'm saying, said Jackson. I'll find

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Speaker 2: out in about twenty years. Yes, you need him a

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Speaker 2: lot more than you did back then.

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: An absolute zoo tomorrow and it's gonna be freaking phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna replay some highlights from the parade twelve

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 3: Get you ready for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm looking forward to seeing how

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Speaker 2: many people show up for this thing the second time around.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Kevin Harlan today, you know, off

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Speaker 2: the year, about a few loose ends tying up from

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Speaker 2: the weekend, and he made the point that, look, man,

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Speaker 2: the first Super Bowl championship, you guys had to wait

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Speaker 2: a generation for that. That was the first championship on

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Speaker 2: our town in thirty four years. This is twelve years later, right,

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Speaker 2: This is not as emotional, The wait is not as long.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if you're sixteen, seventeen years old, you don't remember

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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. It was a big deal. But the more

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Speaker 2: and more this goes on, Like you guys see the

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Speaker 2: parades from year to year in New England and in

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Speaker 2: Kansas City, and the crowd is seemingly getting.

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Speaker 3: Smaller and smaller and smaller.

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Speaker 2: And smaller as the years go by, because it's not

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Speaker 2: a novelty, right, I think for us it's still a novelty.

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Speaker 2: Let's not act like we have a thousand of these

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Speaker 2: for crying out loud. But I'm curious, guys to see

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Speaker 2: how many people show up compared to what it was

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Speaker 2: twelve years old.

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Speaker 4: I think it'll be just as many, if not more,

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Speaker 4: because one of the reasons because of the weather. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was the last time we had one of these,

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Speaker 4: So like, the weather has absolutely no impact at all.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned the sixteen seventeen year olds. You know,

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Speaker 3: I was teasing. I was teasing Dixon yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I said, I go, you know, you, you might be

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Speaker 4: the youngest Seahawk fan that actually remembers the last championship.

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Speaker 3: I want to see now he is sixteen years old.

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Speaker 4: Ok, he is not even sixteen and a half, right,

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Speaker 4: But I made sure that I quizzed him on a

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Speaker 4: regular basis for the last twelve years, starting on that day,

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Speaker 4: I was like, remember this, we went outside and listened

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Speaker 4: to fireworks.

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Speaker 3: Remember this. Six months later, a year later, Hey do

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Speaker 3: you remember super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we know why you remember things when you

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Speaker 5: were four years So I just I.

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Speaker 4: Drilled into him because I didn't know if it would

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Speaker 4: be thirty years, forty years, sixty years.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure that he remembered it.

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Speaker 4: And to this day, every single time I've asked him,

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Speaker 4: I've asked him for twelve years.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember? He's like absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Is that memories that he created for himself that he

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Speaker 2: retained or is that just memories that you've plugged in.

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Speaker 3: I was never plugged in any memories in spring? All right.

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Speaker 4: I have asked him. I said, what do you remember?

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Speaker 4: He said, we were down the basement, we watched the game.

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Speaker 3: Here's who was there. We went outside, we listened to fireworks.

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Speaker 4: I just asked him, and he recites it ver fato right,

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Speaker 4: and he's done it for twelve years.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there might be something in your family

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Speaker 2: that runs in the family that gives you Guys like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, some seek a super secret retention chromosome

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Speaker 2: that other people don't have because I remember nothing from

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Speaker 2: the Sonics at all in nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: I just think the level of importance that you put

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of four year olds that

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Speaker 2: remember a lot from that parade that are sixteen seventeen

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Speaker 3: It's chemistry. I hate to say it, but you guys

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Speaker 3: are a family of freaks.

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Speaker 2: There's a bunch of weirdos man with a Faine family.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean whether it's a million people or half

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Speaker 2: a million people, it's gonna feel and look packed tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All three of us are going and I would just again,

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Speaker 2: I know it's a pain in the ass for a

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Speaker 2: gonna be awful tomorrow. If you can find a way

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Speaker 2: to get your kids out of.

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Speaker 3: School, do it.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be taking light rail from Federal Away at

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Speaker 5: eight am with a buddy. We're gonna be standing in

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Speaker 5: front of City Hall starting at nine am. So insanely

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Speaker 5: ready for this. I mean the other thing too, is

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Speaker 5: it'll absolutely be north of this. It was about seven

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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty last time that.

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Speaker 3: What they said they said they may have exaggerated, but whatever.

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Speaker 5: There's gonna be more than that, because you look at

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Speaker 5: the influx of people into this city over the last

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Speaker 5: twelve years, right, the population has just skyrocketed, and I

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Speaker 5: think the population specifically of people my age, who I

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Speaker 5: think could have come from maybe outside of Seattle, but

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Speaker 5: they want to be part of a party. I think

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Speaker 5: one of the things that's a landmark of my generation

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Speaker 5: of mid thirty year olds, of early thirty year olds

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Speaker 5: and late twenty year olds is we want to be

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Speaker 5: part of the thing that is cool. And I think

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Speaker 5: you are going to see that in massive thousands and

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Speaker 3: Apartments right there. Of course I'm gonna go down to

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Speaker 3: be part of this.

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Speaker 2: Well, just a quick Google search AI they're saying there's

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Speaker 2: about six hundred thousand more people in the Greater Seattle

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Speaker 2: region now than there was in twenty thirteen, So.

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Speaker 3: Three point six to four point eight million if you

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Speaker 2: Then you're pushing a million people right to show up

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Speaker 2: here for this thing, uh tomorrow, But guys, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just thinking about this thing and the way everything went

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Speaker 2: to watch the rest of it tonight when I get home.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of your favorite movies to watch

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Speaker 2: over and over again, you know, like you watch that

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Speaker 2: game five against the Yankees, you watch the twenty thirteen

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Speaker 2: NFC Championship, the Super Bowl, the whole thing, and one

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Speaker 2: thing that just kept striking me over and over again.

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Speaker 2: I know we talked about this yesterday, but it really

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Speaker 2: should have known that they were going to kick their ass,

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Speaker 2: Like both of us said, twenty seven to seventeen, and

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Speaker 2: that was a twenty seventeen game where the Hawks get

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Speaker 2: maybe a late touchdown to go up ten points. That

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Speaker 2: would have been more interesting, it would have been way

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Speaker 2: more dramatic. But you're kind of kicking yourself now for

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Speaker 2: not just hammering the Seahawks and the four and a

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Speaker 2: half on this game on Sunday, because they were better

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Speaker 2: than them across the board. You said that yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. There's not one thing that the

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Speaker 2: Patriots are better at than the Seahawks, not one, not one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could maybe argue Gonzales versus Witherspoon at

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Speaker 2: you prefer him over Devin, But we're still kind of

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Speaker 2: splitting hairs there with.

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Speaker 3: Those two guys.

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Speaker 2: Evan was a freaking tamilator totally, but from a cover

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Speaker 2: corner perspectives, he was amazing. And the other part about

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Speaker 2: it too, We should have freaking hammered the under on

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigbit total yards because you knew that

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Speaker 2: Vrabel was gonna take him away. You knew he was

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Speaker 2: gonna do that, because that's what Belichick did, and we

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Speaker 2: talked about that for two weeks. We talked about that,

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Speaker 2: but none of us gave a damn because every time

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba was quote held in check, whatever

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Speaker 2: the hell that means, by the way, they were undefeated,

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Speaker 2: and they did it again.

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Speaker 3: They're nine to zero this year with this guy having

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Speaker 3: under one hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that the Patriots took away what many

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Speaker 2: people believe is the best offensive weapon the Seahawks have

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Speaker 2: and it didn't.

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Speaker 3: Matter shows you how much better this team was. And

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Speaker 3: not only that.

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Speaker 4: I mean your quarterback played a C minus right game.

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Speaker 3: I mean and you won going away.

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Speaker 4: I mean Jays could have had an easy touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that throw that he missed Jackson Smith and Jigbawn.

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Speaker 4: Not the touchdown you're you're talking about the over the

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Speaker 4: top of one, not to one at the goal lineer.

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Speaker 2: It was behind him two of them. That window closed fast,

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Speaker 2: But he should have completed that. I agree he should

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Speaker 2: have let him a little more. I'm talking about the

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Speaker 2: one where he's down the seam and he misses him

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Speaker 2: by three or four yards and if he hits it,

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Speaker 2: he's gone for a touchdown. How much of that do

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Speaker 3: Chew on that. We'll discuss it next on ninety three

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Speaker 2: All right, Mike Terrico NBC, we'll be hearing those calls

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Speaker 3: I think we need to buy the way freshen up.

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Speaker 2: Is Jordan Love really? The fourth best quarterback is Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: And none of those guys you mentioned are close to

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Speaker 4: Right, Dak Prescott's at twenty one point five percent of

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Speaker 3: Which is right where he is. Number twelve, That's right

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that you got to think beyond

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Speaker 2: the first year of the deal and think about what

442
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Speaker 2: that percentage does in year two, your three, or four,

443
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Speaker 2: because that percentage is.

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Speaker 4: Only going to go down, but only by about a

445
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Speaker 4: half percent per year, but that could be significant.

446
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Speaker 2: It could be significant by here three, it could be

447
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Speaker 2: significant by your four.

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Speaker 3: So I just think this.

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Speaker 2: I think when you've got a guy in John Schneider,

450
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Speaker 2: it's funny how all of a sudden, now we're talking

451
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Speaker 2: about how great John Snyder is at drafting. When people

452
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Speaker 2: were killing the guy for a deck Caden Town, mostly

453
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Speaker 2: because he was the victim of his own expectations.

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Speaker 3: By the way, but if.

455
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Speaker 2: You can draft the way the Seahawks have drafted, I

456
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Speaker 2: think you can overcome it. And you mentioned the salary

457
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Speaker 2: cap space, which the Hawks have a lot of for

458
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Speaker 2: next year. But we all know what they're gonna do.

459
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Speaker 2: They're not gonna go out and buy a bunch of

460
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Speaker 2: big ticket items in the free agency.

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Speaker 3: They well, they never do.

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Speaker 2: Even last year they had cap space and they didn't

463
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Speaker 2: do it. There's been three or four years in this

464
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Speaker 2: run where they've had a pretty good chunk of salary

465
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Speaker 2: cap space and they haven't spent any of it on

466
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Speaker 2: anybody of significance. From a name recognition perspective. It's just like,

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Speaker 2: if we don't know that by now, after how many

468
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Speaker 2: years would John Schneider then shame on us because he's

469
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Speaker 2: never changing his mo and he shouldn't because it works.

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Speaker 2: But I just think that we should be awfully lucky

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Speaker 2: to be sitting here with Sam Darnold as our quarterback

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Speaker 2: at his age. If he was thirty four to thirty five,

473
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Speaker 2: like a geno Smith Dick, it's a different deal. This

474
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Speaker 2: guy's twenty eight years old. We don't want to discount

475
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Speaker 2: the idea that he can also get better with age.

476
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Speaker 2: We don't want to discount the idea that he could

477
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Speaker 2: turn the ball over less with age. We don't want

478
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Speaker 2: to discount the idea that this offensive line could get

479
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Speaker 2: even better with, for example, a new right guard next year.

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Speaker 2: If they do want to go down that road, Jackson,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of more with you that I'd be willing

482
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Speaker 2: to go a little bit higher to get this guy

483
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Speaker 2: paid because we were kind of in quarterback purgatory, luckily

484
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Speaker 2: for only a couple of years in Seattle. We know

485
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Speaker 2: what that's like to lose a guy. We know what

486
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Speaker 2: it's like to not have one. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: do that ever again. Are we splitting hairs between fifty

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Speaker 2: and fifty five?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the same realm? Yes, you know, I mean fifty five.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned fifty million is going to be seven. It

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Speaker 4: goes to sixteen point five percent of the cap. For me,

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Speaker 4: if you're around fifteen and you love the situation that

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Speaker 4: your quarterback is, and he put that, sure, fifteen is doable.

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Speaker 5: I can't go sixty. I think we can all agree

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Speaker 5: you cannot go sixty.

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Speaker 3: You can't be twenty percent.

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Speaker 4: Of the cap because if Patrick Mahomes can't win it.

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Speaker 4: And look at the problems the Chiefs are having because

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is making twenty percent of the cap, They're

501
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Speaker 4: a disaster. Look at the problems Lamark Jackson and Josh

502
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Speaker 4: Allen a having because those quarterbacks are making twenty percent

503
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Speaker 4: of the cap.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't include the Chiefs in that conversation at all.

505
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Speaker 2: They've already won four titles.

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Speaker 4: Right but now, fine, so what they've problem winning was

507
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Speaker 4: winning the titles.

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Speaker 2: So what what are they supposed to do? Not bring

509
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Speaker 2: Mahomes back? They had no choice? Well, yeah, they you

510
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Speaker 2: know what they should do? They should draft better. How

511
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Speaker 2: many wide receivers have they drafted for Patrick Mahomes? How

512
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Speaker 2: many running backs? Honestly, I mean they haven't drafted schoolies

513
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Speaker 2: in Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: They've been tend to get rid of one of their

515
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Speaker 4: wide receivers, Tyree killed because of Patrick.

516
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Speaker 3: But that's fine. If you can draft and they can't draft.

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Speaker 3: That's why this is such.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have kind of come a little bit

519
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Speaker 2: the other way on this to be honest with you,

520
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Speaker 2: and I gotta be honest with you. I heard people

521
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Speaker 2: like Michael Sean Dugar for years and years and years

522
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Speaker 2: that were trying to poop poo this quarterbacks can't make

523
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Speaker 2: more than blank salary cap thing. And I think he's right,

524
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Speaker 2: pull your heads out of your ass and draft better,

525
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Speaker 2: hire better personnel, people, do more work hit on the draft.

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Speaker 3: I know it's hard, it's not an exact science.

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Speaker 2: I totally get that there's not many guys in the

528
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Speaker 2: world that can do what John Schneider has done in

529
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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. But as long as we

530
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Speaker 2: have John Schneider running the show, I'm comfortable going a

531
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Speaker 2: little bit above and beyond to keep a quarterback because

532
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Speaker 2: I believe in the GM. If he quit tomorrow and

533
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Speaker 2: some other Tom Dick or Harry came in, I would

534
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Speaker 2: not have that comf How would.

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Speaker 4: You respond to the fans, Because there's a group of

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Speaker 4: fans out there. I'm not necessarily in agreement with them,

537
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Speaker 4: but I can I can hear their case. They're saying, Listen,

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's a freaking genius. He basically didn't allow New

539
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Speaker 4: England to breathe in the Super Bowl. Why would you

540
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Speaker 4: pay a quarterback fifty million dollars when you have a

541
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Speaker 4: coach of a defense, that's that good.

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Speaker 2: Because if you don't have Sam Darnold, you're not the

543
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Speaker 2: number one seed in your own three against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: That's a great answer. That's why it takes me like

545
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Speaker 2: a half a second. That's exactly it. I mean, you

546
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: had two games against the Rams where your defense got

547
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Speaker 2: pushed around. You're pulverized by them in Seattle and in

548
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Speaker 2: La Right, I'm sorry both games in Seattle, a Thursday

549
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Speaker 2: night game in the NFC Championship. And don't forget, one

550
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Speaker 2: of the big reasons why they won the NFC Championship

551
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Speaker 2: was because the Rashid shihed for crying out loud and

552
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Speaker 2: the special teams fumbled by that Derek Young recovery And

553
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Speaker 2: was it Young? It was Young right on the fumble

554
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Speaker 2: recovery on special teams. Okay, So I guys, I just

555
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Speaker 2: think again, not every game is the same, Dick.

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Speaker 3: You and I talked about that yesterday.

557
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Speaker 2: That Sam Darnold did whatever you needed him to do

558
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Speaker 2: on that day.

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Speaker 3: Right.

560
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Speaker 2: If you needed him to just protect the ball like Sunday,

561
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Speaker 2: he did it. He needed him to put up big

562
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Speaker 2: numbers in the NFC Championship, he did it Thursday Night Football.

563
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Speaker 2: He did it. Probably should have won the Buccaneer game

564
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Speaker 2: with the way Darnold played in that game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the difference.

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Speaker 2: You want to be in the NFC Championship game or

567
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Speaker 2: do you want to win it.

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Speaker 4: I Mean, the game plan for next year seems so simplistic,

569
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Speaker 4: but it's kind of what they did this year. If

570
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Speaker 4: you're going up against the crappy defense, just let Sam cook.

571
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Speaker 4: But if you're going up against the top ten defense

572
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Speaker 4: in the NFL, just pull the reins back and win

573
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Speaker 4: the game like you did the Super Bowl and the

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Speaker 4: two San Francisco game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's I mean, that would be the answer

576
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Speaker 2: to me is that. I just think that there is

577
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Speaker 2: a there's a fine line between being in the playoffs

578
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Speaker 2: and losing in the second round and being in the

579
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Speaker 2: super Bowl, And then there's a finer line between being

580
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Speaker 2: in it and losing it. And if you think giving

581
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Speaker 2: up a guy in Sam Darnold, who like, you're fourteen

582
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Speaker 2: and three, I mean without him, are you eleven and six?

583
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Speaker 3: Are you a twelve and five? You're like eleven probably,

584
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Speaker 3: and you're not champions right now.

585
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Speaker 2: You're not in the Super Bowl, you're not the number

586
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Speaker 2: one seed. Guys, let me first round, like just to

587
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: go back and look at every single game and how

588
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: big he stepped up when you needed here.

589
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Speaker 3: Right, But let me just illustrate this.

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald says, it's sixty million dollars or I'm gone,

591
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Speaker 5: and you say fifty five. That five millions could be

592
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Speaker 5: the difference between bringing back for sheet Shaheeda or not

593
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Speaker 5: bring that. He talked about how sure he was. It's

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Speaker 5: those kind of pieces that get.

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Speaker 3: You to Avardi Trophy. Is any team given, Sam Donald sixty,

596
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Speaker 3: I understand your point.

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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 2: If somebody goes bananas, right, then whatever you gotta just say.

599
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Speaker 2: I don't think honestly, my gut is and I don't

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Speaker 2: really have any facts to bake ba back this up.

601
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Speaker 3: I'm just pulling this out of my ass.

602
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Speaker 2: Like most stuff on this show, I don't think that

603
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Speaker 2: a quarterbacks contract necessarily would impact a guy like Shaheed

604
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Speaker 2: or a guy like Jackson Jackson Smith and Jigba, or

605
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Speaker 2: a guy like a Devin Witherspoon. I think where it

606
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: hits you is in your depth. Absolutely, that's where it

607
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: hits you. Defensive line rotation, offensive line depth, cornerback depth,

608
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Speaker 2: linebacker depth, Josh Jones.

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Speaker 3: It's all in the cap. Well, it's right, but.

610
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Speaker 2: That's important like that, like depth is important. I mean

611
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: it's huge. It was huge for us twelve years ago.

612
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 2: We needed Josh Jones for a couple three games this

613
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: year exactly. So I guess my point is I probably

614
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Speaker 2: would not say it's the difference between keeping Shaheed and not.

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna.

616
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Speaker 2: Find ways to get those guys anyway. It's the difference

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Speaker 2: between keeping Josh Jones, for example, like you said, who

618
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Speaker 2: might get a couple of million bucks more from somebody

619
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Speaker 2: else or I don't know, give me, give me another

620
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Speaker 2: tight end on this football team.

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Speaker 3: Barner eventually, Barner eventually.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna hit you in your depth, that's where

623
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Speaker 2: it's gonna hit you. So I'm just glad that we

624
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: have this guy for two years. That's why I think

625
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: there's a window. There's a window.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

627
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Speaker 2: I mean, Jackson's put then Jake Bud Devin Witherspoon are

628
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Speaker 2: now eligible for extensions, fifty year contract options coming on

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Speaker 2: both those guys. You're about to pay a lot of

630
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Speaker 2: guys a lot more money. The window is now the

631
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Speaker 2: window is now to win back to back, which you

632
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: should have.

633
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Speaker 3: Won twelve years ago.

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Speaker 2: Do it now, We're gonna break fun with audio next,

635
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Speaker 2: and then Walter Jones coming up at four on ninety

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Speaker 2: three to three KJARFM.

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Speaker 3: It's now time for Sufday in Dig's fun with audio.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy g pauncht Jimmy, mister garoppolo. Now let's have some

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Speaker 2: fun with audio, all right, Walter Jones going to join

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Speaker 2: us next right here on ninety three three KJARFM, A

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Speaker 2: little fun with audio slash.

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Speaker 3: Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen

643
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: to hear that? What's a day? What's that? Dick?

644
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: This morning on his WFAN morning show in New York,

645
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Speaker 2: boomeers Sias and talked about how Sam Darnold actually lost

646
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Speaker 2: money by playing the Super Bowl in California.

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Speaker 3: For winning the.

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl, the winning team, each player gets one hundred

649
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Speaker 7: and seventy eight thousand dollars. In other words, the Super

650
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Speaker 7: Bowl isn't a part of their salary and because the

651
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Speaker 7: game was played in California. In California has a jock

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Speaker 7: tax and they look at duty days, so each team

653
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Speaker 7: spends seven days in the state of California. So those

654
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Speaker 7: are seven duty days, and they pierce your regular salary

655
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Speaker 7: at three point five percent, So he has to pay

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Speaker 7: when you when you take an account, he got the

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Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy eight thousand plus his overall salary.

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Speaker 7: He has to pay the state of California for spending

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Speaker 7: seven days there two hundred and forty nine thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's just so stupid.

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00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 7: It ends up costing him seventy one thousand dollars to

662
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 7: go play in California. Now, but I'm the NFLPA, I'm like, Hey,

663
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 7: we're not playing any more Super Bowls in California.

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Speaker 3: Well that's where it is next year, La, That's right, El.

665
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: Sam's gonna lose seventy one more thousand dollars next year.

666
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Speaker 2: I think he'd pay seventy one grand for a title.

667
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: I would. I'd help him. Maybe we can do a

668
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: GoFundMe or a big sale or something. Maybe tomorrow at

669
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: the parade, we should have somebody walking on the street

670
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: with a bucket just taking money from people to give

671
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: it to Sam Darnold. Well, here's the thing that I'm

672
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: concerned about. Okay, this millionaire's tax that we want to

673
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: pass in this state.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's gonna be It's going to affect athletes, Yes,

675
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: it will.

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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you if it's if it's if it's

677
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Speaker 3: equal equal.

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Speaker 2: If it's fifty to fifty on a contract offer from

679
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Speaker 2: a different team in a different town, don't think for

680
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: a second. Those guys don't look at things like income text.

681
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Speaker 3: We haven't her much. It's going to cost them.

682
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: We have heard that for years and it's always helped

683
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: the state of Washington when it comes to the free agency.

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Speaker 2: We can't sit here and I'm with you, and we've

685
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: mentioned that many times before.

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Speaker 3: Hey, no income text, no income text will be able

687
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: to do that anymore if they pass it.

688
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: Not for athletes, you can't because they all make over

689
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: a million bucks a year.

690
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: Can't say it. You will lose that ability.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Seahawks, Mariners cracking whoever to tell a

692
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: free agent you're going to make more money by coming

693
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: to Seattle if we do this, so you want to

694
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: do it, do it, but don't come bitching when athletes

695
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: across the country and businesses across the country don't want

696
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: to come here because we're sucking their wallets dry.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, dick. Did you happen to hear that?

698
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: What's that? Dick? This morning?

699
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: On Wake Up Barstool on Fox Sports One, Stephen Chay

700
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: said that Sam Darnold had the worst performance by a

701
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl winning quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger against the Seahawks

702
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: in two thousand and six.

703
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 8: Has he finally changed the narrative on him? You can't,

704
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 8: you can't talk about that anymore. He's a super Bowl

705
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 8: winning quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the worst super Bowl winning I think

707
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: it was the worst super Bowl winning quarterback performance, Okay,

708
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: since probably Ben Roethlisberg against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 8: Manning, Yeah, Manny, Manny was bad in that twenty fifteen

710
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 8: Broncos game.

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Speaker 1: Pretty uninspired. Was he like seventeen or nineteen for thirty

712
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: or something like that?

713
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: He was fifty. He was asking to do anything. Oh,

714
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: the completion percentage, Chase Bugabear, that's right.

715
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Speaking Caleb Williams looked like Drew Brees.

716
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: So I have to go back and look at it.

717
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how we rank this, dick. Is it

718
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: passer rating? Is a QBR? Is it turnovers? Is it

719
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: all that stuff? Whatever?

720
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean? He may be right if you look at rating.

721
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

722
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: I haven't looked to see where Sam Donald's passer rating.

723
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's a lot better than Peyton manage.

724
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: I'll give you a Payden Mannae third scene of twenty three,

725
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: no touchdowns, pick, two fumbles, and five sacks.

726
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's worse than Darnald way worse, way worse.

727
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, he may be right,

728
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: you know, And again I think.

729
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: The reaction that most Seahawk fans I think will have is.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's terrible. Well maybe he's right. Who cares? I want?

731
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: I don't give a damn. We want. He did what

732
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: he had to do to win the game.

733
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: He protected the ball, he took advantage of his phenomenal

734
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: defense the entire day, ran the ball down their throat,

735
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: made the throws when he had to. I couldn't give

736
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: an f if somebody says Sam Darnold had the worst

737
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: game since Roethlisberger, because tomorrow I'm gonna walk down Fourth

738
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Avenue and stare at another Lombardi Trophy.

739
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Speaker 5: So I couldn't give a damn. I see, I do

740
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: give a damn. And I listened to a lot of

741
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 5: barstool stuff. I listened to a lot of podcasts and

742
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: like they're they're certainly coming from a East coast and northeast.

743
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 5: I don't, but you know what, put some damn respect

744
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 5: on the guy's name. He's a super Bowl champion, and

745
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: then come out here and completely disregard him when Dicky

746
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: listed those manning stats.

747
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: Come on, sure, no, it's not it's not. Maybe he's right,

748
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: he's dead wrong.

749
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Speaker 4: What's funny, It's like they whatever, They don't say anything

750
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: after the NFC Championship game then.

751
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, they're they're like then, and then as

752
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: soon as he has a mediocre game.

753
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: They just don't. Again, here's the thing. I'm I'm just

754
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: in the minority. I guess because I think it. I

755
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: think it does bother a lot of people. I think

756
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: you guys are right. I don't need any affirmation at all.

757
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: I just I have a I have a championship. I'm

758
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: over at simply Seattle today, going pig wild over there,

759
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: buying everything I can on the internet, just tossing money

760
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: out the window. There's nothing that's gonna kill this buzz man.

761
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: All right, this this four hour pill, it's gonna last

762
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: about nine months, all right, And I'm not even calling

763
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: a doctor.

764
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Speaker 3: Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? What's that?

765
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: Yesterday? On ESPN's Get Up Sure, Dan Orlovski? All right,

766
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: you want some praise? Yes, he gave high praise to

767
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold for his Super Bowl winning performance.

768
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Speaker 9: The greatest quarterback redemption story the NFL has ever seen.

769
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 9: And he's got what all great quarterbacks have, amnesia, And

770
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Speaker 9: I would tell you that he plays with the amnesia

771
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Speaker 9: that few have. This is a young man that led

772
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Speaker 9: the NFL in turnovers this year, then went into the

773
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 9: postseason and didn't give the ball away. Wow, that hasn't

774
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 9: happened since two thousand and nine with Drew Brees. I

775
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 9: actually thought he played well last night. That New England

776
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 9: defense in person was fantastic. I thought the decision making,

777
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 9: which was the number one thing he needed to have,

778
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Speaker 9: he had.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, like we said, he has done a

781
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: tremendous job for the most part, and nobody's perfect of

782
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: giving the Hawks whatever they needed that game, and what

783
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: he gave you Sunday is exactly what you needed.

784
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: What he gave you two weeks ago against the Rams

785
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: is also exactly what you need. And let's be honest.

786
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Speaker 4: Did anybody think that against that defense, with RD going

787
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: against their offense, that Sam was gonna come out and

788
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: throw for three thirty and three touchdowns in the Super Bowl.

789
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: I didn't either, I did even come close.

790
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: I thought maybe two touchdowns and probably a pick.

791
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: That's what I thought Sam Darnold would do, and instead

792
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: he had one touchdown and no one or subject.

793
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Look, man, I mean, I never mind, never mind. I

794
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: was gonna say something about something I did before the game,

795
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: but forget it.

796
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: I hate doing that. All Right, we're gonna break.

797
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: Walter Jones is gonna join us next on ninety three

798
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Speaker 2: three KJRFM