1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Always looking forward to this time of the week and 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: this day because we get to talk to iHeart media 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Aviation next work, Jay Ratliff, which I thoroughly enjoy doing 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: and I hope my listening audience enjoys it as much 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: as I do. Some really cool topics you got in 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: this morning on the list here, Jay Ratliffe, I'm going 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: to go out of order, of course, wildly curious about 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: the before we get the hub delays, which we always 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: end on so we know how travel is out there. 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Today it says Boeing has been given permission to increase 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: production of the seven thirty seven Max aircraft. They need 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: to seek permission in terms of their output, Jay, I mean, 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: I know they do it to themselves sometimes in terms 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: of delays and backlogs and all that kind of thing. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: But who has to give Boeing permission for production of 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: aircraft numbers? 17 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: The Federal Aviation Administration After the two Boeing Max crashes, 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: after some of the situations we've had since, the FAA 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: has said, you guys need to slow it down, and 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: slow it down now. So they actually capped to the 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: maximum number of Boeing seven thirty seven Max aircraft that 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: they could make it to twenty six or something. They 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: increased it to thirty eight a month, and now that's 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: been further increased to forty two a month. So yes, Boeing, 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: who hasn't made a profit since I think twenty eighteen, 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: is now allowed and that is the proper word, to 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: produce as many as two aircraft a month, because the 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: FAA had to be convinced that they were doing things 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: the right way, not using scrap parts that shouldn't be used, 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: making sure the production is as it needs to be, 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: making sure that no more door plugs fall off of 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: airplanes like we had last year with your last airline's flight. 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: So and they are convinced that Boeing is making the 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: necessary corrections, and we'll see. But yes, Boeing did need 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: to get permission to push more planes through the through 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: their production schedule. 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Well, I'll acknowledge it is a heavily regulated industry and 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: maybe that's a really good thing considering what they're doing. 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: But you would never go to a bad part bin 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: and use one of the parts that's been labeled you know, 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: non compliant or it doesn't mean our safety at whatever, 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: it's a unapproved part. You would never use one of 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: those parts if you had an adequate supply of parts. 44 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: Now have they overcome whatever supply shortages that led people 45 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: to wander over to the rejected parts bin. 46 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had issues in the past, and Bry, that's 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: exactly the problem is that some of the supply side things, 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: because remember Boeing is just hundreds and hundreds of companies 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: that feed them different parts and services to kind of 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: keep everything going. And there's been times that they did, 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: according to the whistleblowers and some confirmed reports, where they 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: ran out of parts and you were looking at an 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: airplane that was going to be stationary in this production 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: cycle for an extended period of time, and supervisors told 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: the employees, go find the best failed part that we 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: can put on this aircraft to keep the airplane moving 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: through production. And it seems ridiculous, it seems stupid, nasinine, 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: and it's just unbelieva believe, not safe to use a 59 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: failed part on an aircraft. But that's what they were doing. 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: And uh, it's just again Boeing told us five years 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: ago that they had turned the corner and learned their lessons. 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: They were not going to be you know, the same 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: company and they lie to us. So I'm really hoping 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: this time around, all of these paragraphs of promise that 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: come out and all their you know, press releases really 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: mean something because before they didn't. 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Well, I hope they have a guard posted at the 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: rejected park closet, because if they haven't solved that problem, 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: then telling them they can increase the number of airplanes 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: they can produce on a monthly basis, that doesn't mean 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: a thing. If you don't have the part, they can't 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: put the plane together. 73 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes they have the big red pain on them showing 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: that they're failed. So so you've got people scrubbing the 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: red paint. I mean, it's like it's like, you know, 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: what would go on in Russia with some of the 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: stuff they do, and the idea that that's going on 78 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: here in the United States. And I'm I mean, you 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: had thirty some whistleblowers come forward saying I can't be 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: a part of this anymore, right because we're putting the 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: lives at risk. And you know, thank god, none of 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: this stuff other than of course, those two horrific plane 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: crashes with the Boeing Max five years ago, which were 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: you know, coming up on that anniversary very very soon 85 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: here on the first one. But it's just a scary thing. 86 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: And you know, Boeing was told by the FAA five 87 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: years ago, we really gave you too much slack, and 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: we're going to be all over you, and of course 89 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: they weren't. So the FAA failed us like Boeing failed us. 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: And you're just hoping that the two entities that failed 91 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: us as a traveling you know, segment of population, that 92 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 2: they're going to both come through for us. And certainly 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: we hope that's going to be the case. 94 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Certainly do well before we part company and take a 95 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: break here. How about Southwest Airlines new boarding policy? What's 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: this one about? 97 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Well, they decided that instead of having like Delta's eight 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: or ten boarding zones and United ten boarding zones or 99 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is, that they're going to simplify it. They said, 100 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: it's a very easy process. All we have to do 101 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: is board all the window seat people first, duh, all 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 2: the middle seats second, and then the ile people third, 103 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: and we will be able to put people on the airplane. 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: It's so easy. Why haven't people thought about this before? 105 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. And it's really going to make the 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: boarding process much less stressful. Well, note to Southwest, we 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: have tried that before, and there's a big time problem 108 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: because when all of your window seats and all your 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: middle seat passengers board, they fill up the overhead storage compartments. 110 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: Then you have the aisle passengers boarding last. They've paid 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: more for their ticket than the middle seat people, and 112 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: they now have no place to put their bag. 113 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Which is a problem. 114 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: So we've had this happen before, so I think we 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 2: should start an office pool about how long this is 116 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: going to last. But look, Southwest has the best boarding 117 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: policy in certain weather locations where they can do it. 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: They bring people off the front of the airplane while 119 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: they're boarding them on the stairs from the rear. And 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: when you can do that, it's a great process. You 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: can turn that silver revenue tube fast. But the problem 122 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: is you can't do it in the winter, you can't 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: do it in bad weather, can't do it in windy weather, 124 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: all those things. So it's a perfect weather situation to 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: do that. But look, for the last seventy years, Airline 126 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: has been trying to figure out a way for us 127 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: to how can we more quickly put people on the airplane, 128 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: And they have tried every single combination that they can 129 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: to try to figure out the best way. We'll board 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: from the back, front, we'll board from the front, back, 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: We'll board all these different ways, and it just creates problems. Look, 132 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: when you board from the back of the airplane forward, 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: you have all these people dropping their carry on bags 134 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: and row thirteen urn row twenty eight. I know, so 135 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: it just regardless of which way we pivot, Brian, it 136 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: creates problems on tops of problems. And while yes, it 137 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: seems logical to do it XYZ, the problem is in 138 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: a real world environment where you're actually there watching what 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: takes place when this happens, it doesn't exactly go as 140 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: the theories in the office might suggest they would. At 141 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: the gate. It's like a college professor who has all 142 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: the answers, even though they probably never ran a business. 143 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Well, at the risk of running over too long, real quickly, here, 144 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: if you have a signed seating, can't you have a 145 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: sign bin? 146 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 2: You could, and I'm surprised they've not done that before. 147 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Now the problem is how you're going to regulate that 148 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: because you don't have enough flight attendants to really be 149 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: able to do it. And I don't know why they 150 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: don't charge us for the overhead bins if you need 151 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: extra room, saying you can have the seat, the space 152 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: underneath the seat in front of you, bring a small bag, 153 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: no feet you need the overhead bin. Pooh, it's gonna 154 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: cost you. 155 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: There what it came a couple of sound ideas Jay 156 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: rutlift pausive. 157 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: No, no, no, they've not listen to me along time other 158 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: than the things they complain about me. That those things they. 159 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Hear stay around assault rifles, emergency landings, dead people and 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: space degree more with Jay Ratliff coming up right back 161 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: fifty five of KRC them ver Moon fifty KRC he 162 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: talked station. Have you ever been in the cockpit before? 163 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Jay rayd Loffe has He's iHeart media aviation expert. We 164 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: have the pleasure of talking to Jay Rattliffe every week 165 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: at beginning at eight thirty onto section or segment two. 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Here Jay Rattliffe sounds like it's a bad IDEA man 167 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: with an assault rifle was arrested at the Atlanta Airport. 168 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a forty nine year old from Cartersville, Georgia, 169 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: and apparently Brian he had collected to a social Cartersville. 170 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: Seriously Carter go ahead. I'm sorry to interject with a delight. 171 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: I had one of the best experiences of my life. 172 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: We are car broke down. And when I was in 173 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: college rure on spring break. The car broke down right 174 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: on the on ramp to Cartersville, Georgia, and the mayor, 175 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I believe he was of Cartersville, was out with his son. 176 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: He stopped, he picked us up. There were six of us. 177 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: He let us stay at his house. He kicked his 178 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: daughter out, he kicked his son out. They went and 179 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: stayed at friend's houses. He's his wife fed us all. 180 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: This is like midnight on a weekday or something, got 181 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: us let us sleep there. No, it was a Saturday, 182 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: because I remember we were really worried because Sunday nothing's open. 183 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: It was a our and here I am laboring on 184 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: about this. Anyway, No, no fuel. The fuel pump went out, 185 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: so we needed to buy a fuel pump really easy 186 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: fixed in the van that we were in. So he 187 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: ended up getting his buddy. He wonned the autoparts store 188 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: to open up on a Sunday, got us the fuel pump, 189 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: got the van fixed. It was. It was one of 190 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: those renewal of faith in humanity moments in time so 191 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: that I heard carters just could not believe how much 192 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: gratitude we had for him, And we ended up sending 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: him a big fruit basket and a big letter of 194 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: thanks to him and his wife. They treated it so wonderfully, 195 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: and I've always thought the world of Cartersville just because 196 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: of that moment in time. 197 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: Well, I hope you kept in touch with him, thank 198 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: any repeatedly for something like that. That's great. It was great, 199 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: and and I love the fact that a story like 200 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: this can can can spur a nice memory like that 201 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: that can be shared, because yeah, let's hope that encourages 202 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: other people. You know, not that you are saying let 203 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: strangers into your house and spend the night, but you know, 204 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: I get it. That's a great thing because it makes 205 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: you think that people, you know, it's kind of like 206 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: things used to be. But yeah, this story was a 207 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: forty nine year old from that place that posted to 208 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: a social media count that he was going to go 209 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: to the Atlanta Airport shoot it up. And you had 210 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: family members that spotted those social media posts. They notified 211 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: the local police, who then notified the Atlanta Airport. All 212 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: this was in like fifteen minutes. The man was later 213 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 2: spotted walking into the airport. He was unarmed at the 214 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: time and the thought was he was scoping it out. 215 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: He had his vehicle right outside the door, had an 216 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: assault rifle loaded inside the vehicle. He was approached by 217 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: law enforcement, he was questioned and detained and it's currently 218 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: undergoing a mental health evaluation. And look, this is a 219 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: perfect example of how a lot of these tragedies can 220 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: be averted if you just have family and friends that 221 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: might see something, hear something, notify authorities and say, look, 222 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: this is what we see as far as what may 223 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: or may not be going on. And I think the 224 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: family certainly saved some lives there. But it's a lot 225 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: like I tell people at the airport, if you see 226 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: unattended bags, or see somebody acting in a suspicious fashion, 227 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: immediately pointed out to the airport police. And so many 228 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: people say, well, Jay, if it's nothing, I said, I 229 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: don't care. And you'll never have any law enforcement officer 230 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: tell you never should do this, because when you have 231 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: two million people a day flying and you've got two 232 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: million sets of eyes, all that does is ratchet up 233 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: our security. So if you see something that doesn't look right. 234 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: Even if it's something where you might suspect that there's 235 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: child trafficking or something else going on, you may not 236 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: be an expert at that, So notify somebody who is, 237 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: and then they can determine whether or not there's an issue. 238 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Sounds like common sense and logic to me. Jay Ridley, 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: all right, American Airlines flight making an emergency landing. Why 240 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: this was sky. 241 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: West flight sixty five sixty nine, taken off from Omahall 242 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: they're headed for LA. About forty minutes into the flight, 243 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: the pilots start hearing a loud banging on the cockpit door. Okay, 244 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: so they called for the flight attendants over the intercom. 245 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: Flight attendants do not respond. Oh, they said, okay, we've 246 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 2: got a protocol. They immediately declared an inflight emergency for security, 247 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: turned the airplane around, went back to Omaha, and here 248 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: come law enforcement. But when they boarded, they found out 249 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: that it was the flight attendant's knocking on the door 250 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: to try to tell them the intercom wasn't working. Whoops. Yeah, 251 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: so apparently they didn't have a secret coded knock. It 252 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: was us, you know. But look the pilots, you know, 253 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: because they can't see anything, and it really surprises you 254 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: that there's not something in the cockpit that would have 255 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: a camera of the door or something. I mean, the 256 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: technology is so affordable, even for cheap airlines, that that 257 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: type of thing should exist right where pilots can look 258 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: back and at least at the door and beyond. But 259 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: absent of that, they didn't know what was going on, 260 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: and they are taught that door stay shut. You'd land 261 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: that airplane, notify law enforcement just in case. And being 262 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: in Omaha close to the military base is there. I 263 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: don't know if they launched any military intercept that would 264 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: be part of the process here if you've got an 265 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: aircraft that you suspect maybe in the process of being 266 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: taken over. So the crew did exactly what they should 267 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: have and when the pilot landed, the captain he told 268 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: his passengers, look, we still don't know what's going on. 269 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: Just bear with us. But they aired on the side 270 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: of cautions, and even though it delayed the flight, they 271 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: did exactly what they should have done. 272 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: I was just going to say, exactly the same thing. 273 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: That's exactly the way I would want it. Abundance of caution, 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: little delay, and it's always the right thing to do. 275 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: Let's pause, we'll bring it back. We'll talk about space 276 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: debris and a Hong Kong plane crash plus a hub 277 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: delay with one more. iHeart Mediavation expert Jay rat leves 278 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: to Cramp fifty five KRC. 279 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: It's cyber. 280 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: It is eight forty nine on a Friday eve. Talking 281 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: with I Heart Media Aviation expert Ja moved through the 282 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: multitude of a variety of topics. This morning we go 283 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: over to Hong Kong. We had a plane crash. How 284 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: did the plane crash? I see, we had accorded the 285 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: notes a couple of deaths. 286 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Boeing seven forty seven cargo plane 287 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: landing at like three point fifty three in the morning 288 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: in Hong Kong. They had four pilots aboard, and after 289 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: they touched down and rotated down, they were in the 290 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: process of slowing down and there was some sort of 291 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: a security vehicle on the runway and the plane struck it. 292 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: And when it did, it caused the aircraft to veer 293 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: off the runway down to the embankment into the sea. 294 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: So you've got the aircraft in the sea and you've 295 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: got two people on the ground vehicle that were killed 296 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: and the accident investigations continuing as far as why in 297 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: the world this vehicle was on an active runway, and 298 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: because you know, anytime you're at an airport, you're taught 299 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: first thing about you know, how you approach, how you cross, 300 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: everything that has to be done to make sure that 301 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: you're not where you need to be at the wrong time. 302 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: So hopefully they'll be able to find out why that happened, because, yeah, 303 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: we've not had an incident Hong Kong for a while, 304 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: and to see two people killed, you know, certainly avoidable, 305 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: and hopefully they'll find out exactly what took place. 306 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, being on the runway in a vehicle sounds 307 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: like a bad idea in most all cases. Day. 308 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, they do runway inspections all the time. 309 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Oh you know, they drive up and down the runway 310 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: to make sure there's no debris or animals things like 311 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: that that might interfere with it take off or landing. 312 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, it runways are used all the time by 313 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: ground vehicles, but obviously never won an. 314 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: Aircraft is landing exactly all right, space debris. 315 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: It was thought of that United Flight ten ninety three 316 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: Denver to La their crew as long as thirty six 317 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: thousand feet kind of mine in their own business. When 318 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the cockpit windshield on the first 319 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: officer side shatters. Now, the cockpit windshields not like a 320 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: car windshield. You've got three layers of in essence, chemically 321 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: strengthened glass that's designed for bird strikes, hail, the temperature changes, 322 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: and everything else. But what made this different, Brian, was 323 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: that when this shattered, part of the debris actually entered 324 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: the flight deck and caused injuries to one of the pilots. 325 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: He had a bloodied arm in the process. Now the 326 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: crew was still able to control the airplane. It wasn't 327 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: a big deal as far as operating it. They landed 328 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: the plane fifty minutes later in Salt Lake City, and 329 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: when they were on the ground, appeared to be some 330 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: sort of scorch marks that were found on the outer 331 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: side of the airplane indicating kind of an external impact. 332 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: And there wasn't any hail reported in the area. Birds 333 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: at thirty six thousand feet not real likely, but they thought, okay, 334 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: it could have been a piece of space debris, which 335 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: is like never happened, that could have actually struck the airplane. 336 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: The odd latest well a trillion to one at the point. Yeah, 337 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: but the thought is that they're thinking it may have 338 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: also been a weather balloon that could have been in 339 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: the area. They're still investigating at the sea. But Brian, 340 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: anytime I talk about a cockpit window, I have to 341 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: talk of British Airways Flight fifty three ninety. This was 342 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: a plane that was cruising at seventeen thousand feet and 343 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: the captain's windshield totally blew off. It was improperly installed, 344 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: he was not wearing a seatbelt. Close a decompression send 345 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: him right out the window. Now, there was a flight 346 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: attendant who had just entered the cabin that lunged forward 347 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: and grabbed the captain's knee and feet and was hanging 348 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: on to him as he's outside the aircraft. 349 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Oh, this was several years ago, cracked many years ago. 350 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: But I think a picture about that or something. 351 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to say. If you've not googled 352 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: the image of British Airways fifty three ninety, you gotta 353 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: do it, because there were pictures taken of this aircraft 354 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: in flight as it was trying to land that has 355 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: the captain laying across the top of the aircraft. Wild 356 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: how flight has. 357 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: A going When the window blew out. 358 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: Well seventeen thousand feet you had been going on depending 359 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: on the specific I mean, you're going one hundred and 360 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: eighty two hundred miles an hours, you're coming down and 361 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: slowing down. 362 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Stick your head out of a wit of a moving cart. 363 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the captain survived. You had frost 364 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: bite and different things. He didn't remember a lot of 365 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: things that happened, obviously, But look, this guy was flying 366 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: six months later. But if you go to just to 367 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: a Google Lemons image surge of BA British Airways fifty 368 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: three ninety, you will swear that's a photo. There's no 369 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: way that's a real picture. And every time I talk 370 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: about it, people look at they're like, oh my gosh. 371 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: But yes, fifty three ninety is the most famous cockpit 372 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: windows story that I've ever encountered in thirty three years 373 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: of doing this. 374 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Yep, it didn't take much for me to find it. Jay, 375 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: as we were talking, Yeah, fifty three ninety. All right, 376 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: let's close up with hub delays as we typically do. 377 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: Haws it looking out there for air travel, Jay ratlift. 378 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: As far as hubs Detroit, maybe late in the day, 379 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: but Brian, there's just not a lot of inclement weather 380 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 2: out there that's going to really get in the way 381 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: of any hubs, and as a result, should be a 382 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: good day to fly. If you're heading out west. We've 383 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: got weather that might give us some turbulence, but you know, 384 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: most people are going to keep their seat built on anyways, 385 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: which is always a good idea even when you're flying. 386 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: So I think today is going to be one of 387 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: the better days of the week we've had to fly. 388 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: Jay Rightleff, always a real pleasure to have you on 389 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: the program, Sarah. Look forward to next Thursday, another aviation 390 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: report morning, and I hope you have a great week 391 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: and best of health and love to you and your 392 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: better half, my friend, and to you as well, Thank you. 393 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Thanks brother. Eight point fifty four coming to be fifty five. 394 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Can get a chance to listen live the return of 395 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: Congressman Warren David's Davidson this morning.