1
00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 1: This Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for the

2
00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,439
Speaker 1: Great American Willie Cunningham today and Monday. I think we

3
00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,319
Speaker 1: got a good show lined up for you. Got some

4
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,040
Speaker 1: good guests. I wanted to tell you too. Between twelve

5
00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,680
Speaker 1: thirty and one o'clock got open lines. So if you

6
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,360
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, seven four nine,

7
00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,720
Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one are the numbers.

8
00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,680
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's get to work here. Socialism or

9
00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,479
Speaker 1: democratic socialism, it's all the same. It's the new toy

10
00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,879
Speaker 1: for the left to play with the Democrats. The leaders

11
00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,240
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party are embracing it. I mean you

12
00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,760
Speaker 1: got Mondami in New York City, Katie Wilson, boys, she's

13
00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,680
Speaker 1: a real peach in Seattle, got one in Irvine, California.

14
00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Socialism has failed to work just about everywhere it has

15
00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,120
Speaker 1: been tried. But like I said, the Democrats are embracing it.

16
00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,679
Speaker 1: And it makes you wonder why here to talk about it?

17
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,640
Speaker 1: Is Todd Sheets. He's the author of the newsletter Politics,

18
00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Economics and well Being. It's currently available free on Substack,

19
00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,640
Speaker 1: and he's the author of two thousand and eight What

20
00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,600
Speaker 1: Really Happens understanding understanding the Great Financial Crisis. Todd, thanks

21
00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,120
Speaker 1: for joining us this afternoon.

22
00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,200
Speaker 2: Glad to be with you.

23
00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,400
Speaker 1: Mike Hey, can you give us a little breakdown on

24
00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 1: your piece that you did really good about socialism? You

25
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,559
Speaker 1: cover a lot of topics on it, and we will,

26
00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,000
Speaker 1: but just in a nutshell, what's it about?

27
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

28
00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,640
Speaker 3: Well, I mean to see here is that, unfortunately we'd

29
00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,200
Speaker 3: have this experience with socialism where I guess we could

30
00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,280
Speaker 3: go back one hundred and fifty two hundred years, maybe

31
00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040
Speaker 3: even a little further, and say, you know, this was

32
00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,080
Speaker 3: a realistic intellectual debate. Adam Smith had these ideas about

33
00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 3: free market economy, Karl Marx had these other ideas about

34
00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,919
Speaker 3: how to lift workers up, and there wasn't a lot

35
00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,839
Speaker 3: of real world evidence to go by.

36
00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,799
Speaker 4: But you know, now we're sitting here a couple centuries.

37
00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,160
Speaker 3: Later, and as you mentioned in your remarks, it has

38
00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,640
Speaker 3: basically failed anywhere and everywhere it's been tried, right, you know,

39
00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,200
Speaker 3: from large countries like Russia and China, which failed miserably

40
00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 3: before it started to recover. And I think one thing

41
00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,560
Speaker 3: to keep in mind here, China has only been able

42
00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,040
Speaker 3: to recover to the extent that it has because of

43
00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,760
Speaker 3: the depth of its previous failures, which left you know,

44
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,640
Speaker 3: billions of people so impoverished that they were willing to

45
00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,800
Speaker 3: work for almost any wage in order to start lifting

46
00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,480
Speaker 3: themselves up. That's been the thing that's really created, you know,

47
00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,639
Speaker 3: something of a turnaround for chinaming back anyway, from from

48
00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,080
Speaker 3: big countries like that, you know, to smaller countries like

49
00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,200
Speaker 3: what we've seen in Venezuela and Cuba. So we're talking

50
00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,480
Speaker 3: about something that's international.

51
00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,560
Speaker 2: In scope in terms of its failure.

52
00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,280
Speaker 3: It ranges from large company countries to small countries, and

53
00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,280
Speaker 3: yet we have this persistence of you know, the socialist

54
00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,960
Speaker 3: political narrative, which is you know, one of the great

55
00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,320
Speaker 3: tragedies of history here.

56
00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. And you make some analogies in

57
00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,960
Speaker 1: your piece, and it is excellent, by the way, to

58
00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,640
Speaker 1: the current situation and kind of the knee jerk reactions

59
00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,480
Speaker 1: to the Ice shooting in Minnesota, you know, the instant

60
00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,800
Speaker 1: pronouncement about the shootings. I think that was a really

61
00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,840
Speaker 1: bad call on the president's part. And Christy Noam, can

62
00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,279
Speaker 1: you get us kind of your thoughts on that comparison

63
00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,800
Speaker 1: or I guess, uh, you know what the two things

64
00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,480
Speaker 1: have in common.

65
00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we have to look at it.

66
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,440
Speaker 3: First of all, let's start with saying, you know that

67
00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,120
Speaker 3: the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Pretty in Minnesota

68
00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,880
Speaker 3: where tragic. You know, our hearts go out to their families,

69
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,920
Speaker 3: all of those kinds of things. It always starts at

70
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,720
Speaker 3: the individual level. But once we step back from that,

71
00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,680
Speaker 3: we have to see the bigger picture. And the bigger

72
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,279
Speaker 3: picture is that really for the last three decades, since

73
00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,800
Speaker 3: the Clinton years, which you know takes us back to

74
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,040
Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties, you know, the Democratic Party has become

75
00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,440
Speaker 3: increasingly controlled by the far left, which is pushing a

76
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,480
Speaker 3: socialist agenda that is designed to try and roll back

77
00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,680
Speaker 3: the foundations of Western civilization. That finally, after thousands of

78
00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,360
Speaker 3: years of history, we're masses of people, you know, we're

79
00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,640
Speaker 3: more or less left in the dark and given no

80
00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,000
Speaker 3: opportunity for a better life. You know, those Western ideas

81
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,960
Speaker 3: finally created upward mobility, first in the Western countries, most

82
00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,440
Speaker 3: importantly in America. I'm starting, you know, let's go back

83
00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,520
Speaker 3: to the eighteen hundreds. But then the upward mobility and

84
00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,480
Speaker 3: the expanding economies of the Western world started to benefit

85
00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,600
Speaker 3: even the rest.

86
00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,000
Speaker 5: Of the world.

87
00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,400
Speaker 4: You know that wasn't necessarily.

88
00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,080
Speaker 3: Following those ideals and that kind of thing. But here

89
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,159
Speaker 3: in the last three decades, what we've had is this

90
00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,480
Speaker 3: growing movement on the left to take over the Democratic

91
00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,120
Speaker 3: Party and to push us in a socialist direction. And

92
00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,000
Speaker 3: one piece of that has been what I continue to

93
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,000
Speaker 3: think of is this incredibly bizarre effort to brand Trump

94
00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,720
Speaker 3: as Hitler just because they lost election. You know, Hillary

95
00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,880
Speaker 3: lost to him unexpectedly. The idea that you would morally

96
00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,000
Speaker 3: equate him with somebody who killed fifty or sixty million

97
00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,240
Speaker 3: people is beyond me. But it shows the length that

98
00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,120
Speaker 3: they're willing.

99
00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,440
Speaker 5: To go to.

100
00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,560
Speaker 3: And so what's happened here as we get back towards

101
00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,720
Speaker 3: this immigration and these deportation issues is from the very

102
00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,359
Speaker 3: beginning they have fit those issues into the idea the

103
00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,720
Speaker 3: Hitlerization of Trump, you know, by calling these gestapo tactics,

104
00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,240
Speaker 3: refusing to support, you know, and provide any kind of assistance,

105
00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,360
Speaker 3: encouraging in many cases, I think, innocent and ill prepared

106
00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,720
Speaker 3: citizens to put themselves in harm harm's way in an

107
00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,719
Speaker 3: effort to try and impede, you know, the Ice agent's

108
00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,839
Speaker 3: ability to do their jobs. And I think once that

109
00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,000
Speaker 3: all started, which.

110
00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,600
Speaker 2: We knew it would. It was inevitable that at some.

111
00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,240
Speaker 3: Point it was going to lead to the kind of

112
00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,080
Speaker 3: situations that we saw in Minnesota. And I do think,

113
00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,599
Speaker 3: like you said, the administration has made some mistakes in

114
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,040
Speaker 3: playing into that trap that the left has set, and

115
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,200
Speaker 3: those mistakes were exposed in Minneapolis. But the bigger picture

116
00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,279
Speaker 3: here is this long term movement to push forward on

117
00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,400
Speaker 3: a socialist.

118
00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,160
Speaker 2: Agenda and to fight back with.

119
00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,280
Speaker 4: Trump against Trump with everything they have.

120
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,960
Speaker 2: Because they see him as the.

121
00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,640
Speaker 3: First person, probably since Ronald Reagan back in the eighties

122
00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,920
Speaker 3: who has the strength and the commitments and the willingness

123
00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,800
Speaker 3: to take them on head on and try and you know,

124
00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,960
Speaker 3: overturn all.

125
00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,560
Speaker 2: These initiatives that they've been pushing during this time period.

126
00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,240
Speaker 1: I agree with you my two favorite presidents Ronald Reagan

127
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,920
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump. I mean, then they couldn't be more

128
00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,920
Speaker 1: different in demeanor, but they're both. They both Reagan was

129
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,760
Speaker 1: serious about what he wanted to do. I mean, he

130
00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,560
Speaker 1: damned near uh with one hand. He ended communism. I mean,

131
00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,160
Speaker 1: he was the one and that's what he talked about

132
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,000
Speaker 1: for really the better part of his life. So I

133
00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,960
Speaker 1: think there's a comparison there, But here's the thing, and

134
00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,360
Speaker 1: this scares the heck out of me, Todd. It's seems

135
00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,640
Speaker 1: like a pretty big portion of the country. It's certainly

136
00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,240
Speaker 1: not the majority or anywhere close to it. They're embracing socialism,

137
00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,880
Speaker 1: and you know, you see these things happen like you know,

138
00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,760
Speaker 1: like you said, Minnesota, we have a federal law that

139
00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,960
Speaker 1: prohibits illegally entering this country. ICE is a federal agency.

140
00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,400
Speaker 1: They are enforcing the law. I guess a long way

141
00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,560
Speaker 1: of saying is I don't know that the people are

142
00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,840
Speaker 1: all the people I guess out there just aren't getting it.

143
00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,040
Speaker 1: A good number I don't think are what do you.

144
00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,960
Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right about that.

145
00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,600
Speaker 3: And I think a huge part of that comes down

146
00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280
Speaker 3: to the fact that, you know, over these last few decades,

147
00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,040
Speaker 3: this far left movement that we've talked about, you know,

148
00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,839
Speaker 3: has gained increasing control of much of the traditional media channels. Fortunately,

149
00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,600
Speaker 3: we've had an explosion of media sources, which is you know,

150
00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,160
Speaker 3: somewhat balance that out, but not completely. But they still

151
00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,800
Speaker 3: control the educational system in you know, more so than

152
00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,120
Speaker 3: they ever have. You know, now, I think almost from

153
00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,200
Speaker 3: K through college kind of thing. So that's that is

154
00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,720
Speaker 3: dramatically influencing the way young people grow up and think

155
00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,880
Speaker 3: about America, and one of the things I like to

156
00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,520
Speaker 3: talk about in these discussions many times. I grew up

157
00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,760
Speaker 3: in a democratic family. My dad was a high school teacher,

158
00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,280
Speaker 3: but mostly a football coach. My mom was an elementary

159
00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,240
Speaker 3: teacher until you know, she left that to be a

160
00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,439
Speaker 3: full time month. They were Democrats. All their friends were Democrats.

161
00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,439
Speaker 3: I think most of my teachers were Democrats growing up.

162
00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,320
Speaker 3: But I'm taking this back a long way. I'm dating

163
00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,360
Speaker 3: my stuff. I'm going back to the.

164
00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,480
Speaker 2: Sixties and seventies.

165
00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,000
Speaker 3: But the difference at that time was, even though I

166
00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,840
Speaker 3: grew up in that environment, virtually all of those people,

167
00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,000
Speaker 3: in fact, I can't remember any of them that didn't

168
00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,520
Speaker 3: believe that America was the greatest country in the world, that.

169
00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,359
Speaker 4: Capitalism was a far superior system.

170
00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,680
Speaker 3: To communism socialism, and that we were all lucky to

171
00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,960
Speaker 3: be here. And many of them believed, as I did

172
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,160
Speaker 3: and still do, that we needed to make major reforms,

173
00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:11,400
Speaker 3: you know.

174
00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,280
Speaker 4: For example, to make the system, you know, more.

175
00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,679
Speaker 3: Accessible for minorities or religious minorities in those kindries. Those

176
00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,480
Speaker 3: things needed to happen, but they all came from this

177
00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,760
Speaker 3: core belief that this was the greatest country in the

178
00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,439
Speaker 3: history of the world, which the previous two hundred years

179
00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,600
Speaker 3: had proved, and now that's changed. Now kids grow up

180
00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,280
Speaker 3: in an environment where so much of what they're exposed.

181
00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,760
Speaker 2: To is the idea.

182
00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,960
Speaker 3: That, you know, this is a system built on exploitation

183
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,160
Speaker 3: and privilege and racism, and that capitalism is the core problem.

184
00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,959
Speaker 3: And so you know, the kids go off to college

185
00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,160
Speaker 3: now in many times they get the cost of which

186
00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,240
Speaker 3: has gone up so much, they get an.

187
00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,720
Speaker 4: Education that can't come close to paying.

188
00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,200
Speaker 2: For that cost.

189
00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,520
Speaker 6: And they've been.

190
00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,400
Speaker 3: Taught for four years that if things don't work out

191
00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,640
Speaker 3: the way they want them to, capitalism is the problem,

192
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,160
Speaker 3: or America is the problem.

193
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,120
Speaker 4: And so you know, this dominance of these.

194
00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,000
Speaker 3: Different ways of controlling the narrative, probably most importantly in

195
00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,559
Speaker 3: the school systems and the colleges, I think, has played

196
00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,400
Speaker 3: a huge role in what you're talking about.

197
00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, a term

198
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,280
Speaker 1: that I heard in grade school even and you don't

199
00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,320
Speaker 1: hear it anymore is American exceptionalism. I wonder if there's

200
00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,920
Speaker 1: one teacher out there teaching that. And then, as you

201
00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,559
Speaker 1: point out, you get to the college level. I mean,

202
00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,400
Speaker 1: it's I call it an intellectual cesspool, although maybe just

203
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,760
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit they're finally figuring out that they're

204
00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,199
Speaker 1: going to have to give. You know, they all love diversity,

205
00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of diversity of thought. But I love

206
00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,920
Speaker 1: the term, and I still use it quite a bit

207
00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,880
Speaker 1: of American exceptionalism. I don't think these teachers are teaching

208
00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,560
Speaker 1: that anymore.

209
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've got friends who are very intelligent friends,

210
00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,119
Speaker 3: but they're pretty far left.

211
00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,319
Speaker 4: And we've had conversations they say, you know.

212
00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,000
Speaker 3: Almost mockingly, what the hell is exceptional about America? Or

213
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,559
Speaker 3: another way that it came out was like Barack Obama

214
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,800
Speaker 3: when he said, yes, I think America.

215
00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,520
Speaker 4: America is exceptional in.

216
00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,559
Speaker 3: The same way that every other country thinks that they're exceptional,

217
00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,400
Speaker 3: Which means that you're trying to act like you believe

218
00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,839
Speaker 3: in exceptionalism, but you don't.

219
00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,760
Speaker 4: And to those people, what I say, well, let's just.

220
00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,720
Speaker 5: Go back for just a moment here.

221
00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,720
Speaker 4: Let's talk about you know, this.

222
00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:40,079
Speaker 3: Great experiment in democracy and free market economics, which created

223
00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 3: the world's middle class and lifted more people up out

224
00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,800
Speaker 3: of poverty than any other system in the history of

225
00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,960
Speaker 3: the world. And then it also created.

226
00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,480
Speaker 4: The wherewithal for us to go to war.

227
00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,160
Speaker 3: With ourselves to end the Civil War. And then we

228
00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,480
Speaker 3: get into the nineteen hundreds and we go over.

229
00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 4: To Europe not once, but twice to save.

230
00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,520
Speaker 3: Europe from its own self destructive tendencies, and we effectively

231
00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,760
Speaker 3: save the world from the Hitlers.

232
00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,480
Speaker 2: And those kinds of things.

233
00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,600
Speaker 3: And then we get into the sixties and we go

234
00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 3: through this massive reevaluation, which like we just talked about,

235
00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,040
Speaker 3: much of which I agree.

236
00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,960
Speaker 4: With, you know, where we go through the civil rights

237
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,040
Speaker 4: movements and things that.

238
00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,800
Speaker 3: Do help open up the system for a greater number

239
00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,679
Speaker 3: of people.

240
00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,280
Speaker 2: In that kind of thing.

241
00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000
Speaker 3: So to me, it's like, hey, look, I get we've

242
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,360
Speaker 3: made big mistakes and there's big problems, but from a

243
00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,480
Speaker 3: big picture, it's very easy to tick on four or

244
00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,040
Speaker 3: five of the most exceptional historical developments in the history.

245
00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,400
Speaker 1: Of made, no question about it, no question about it. Unfortunately, Todd,

246
00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,920
Speaker 1: we're out of time, never never enough time. Is there

247
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,840
Speaker 1: anything you'd like to quickly tell my listeners where they

248
00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,640
Speaker 1: can find out some things that you're interested in, your materials,

249
00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,800
Speaker 1: anything that you want to tell them.

250
00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Substack the weekly newsletter is on wealth and progress.

251
00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,520
Speaker 3: So if they search that and or my name Todd Sheets,

252
00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,720
Speaker 3: they'll get it, and the same thing. If they search

253
00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,120
Speaker 3: those things on YouTube, Spotify or Apple Music, they'll get

254
00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,400
Speaker 3: my weekly podcast, which is basically an audio video version

255
00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,520
Speaker 3: of what I write.

256
00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,400
Speaker 1: On substat sounds good. I really appreciate it, Todd. Great conversation.

257
00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,480
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yeah, thank you, Mike, and have a great weekend.

258
00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,760
Speaker 1: All right, you too. All Right, we got to take

259
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,960
Speaker 1: a break for the news button. We get back open

260
00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,600
Speaker 1: lines seven for nine, seven thousand one, eight hundred, Big one,

261
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:44,960
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willy seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back.

262
00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:51,120
Speaker 1: Gallen in for the Great American Willy Cunningham today and Monday,

263
00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,880
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of it. Seven

264
00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,400
Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand and one eight the Big One

265
00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,720
Speaker 1: are the numbers. But in the meantime, I have a

266
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,960
Speaker 1: quot question, and I'm serious about this. I would love

267
00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,240
Speaker 1: to know what the normies, shall we say, all of

268
00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,280
Speaker 1: us think about this? Is there too much coverage of

269
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,200
Speaker 1: the Nancy Guthrie case? Now, before we go any further,

270
00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean I'm gonna say, obviously, it's a horrible, horrible thing.

271
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,120
Speaker 1: I can't fathom what that family is going through. I mean,

272
00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,440
Speaker 1: she's in her eighties obviously, as most elderly people do

273
00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:39,520
Speaker 1: have some issues. I'm assuming she's not able to take

274
00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,440
Speaker 1: her medge unless the kidnapper took them. But here's the thing.

275
00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,640
Speaker 1: I think there is too much coverage. And it's on Fox,

276
00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,800
Speaker 1: which I watch pretty much exclusively. It's wall to wall almost.

277
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean really, I don't know about the other stations

278
00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,640
Speaker 1: because I don't watch them, but at some point, I mean,

279
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,360
Speaker 1: I think you have to say, yes, we're going to

280
00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,760
Speaker 1: follow this case, but there are other things going on

281
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,640
Speaker 1: in the world, and it's, in my opinion, it's successive,

282
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, compared to other cases. And the other thing

283
00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,880
Speaker 1: is too And this isn't just Fox, and this isn't

284
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, this is part of the other stations too.

285
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,240
Speaker 1: How many times can you say we don't know anything yet,

286
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have any suspects at the beginning

287
00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,440
Speaker 1: of it, they had little or no evidence. You can

288
00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,760
Speaker 1: parade as many experts as you want out in front

289
00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,560
Speaker 1: of the cameras to talk about it. I mean I

290
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,800
Speaker 1: do that sometimes for legal issues, but again, these kind

291
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,360
Speaker 1: of cases, I mean, think about it, they're complicated. They're

292
00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,240
Speaker 1: not going to be resolved quickly. It's extremely unusual that

293
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,760
Speaker 1: you have a case like this, and it seems to

294
00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:09,960
Speaker 1: me like the experts are kind of straining to say something.

295
00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,920
Speaker 1: And I get that. I mean, you know, the network

296
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600
Speaker 1: has them on for a reason, but I don't know.

297
00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we just neither they need to say,

298
00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,159
Speaker 1: we just don't know yet, you know. And some of

299
00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,040
Speaker 1: the other things too. I mean, people are complaining that

300
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,560
Speaker 1: while the major networks have interrupted regularly scheduled scheduled programming

301
00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080
Speaker 1: on other things, you know, they broke into the Olympics,

302
00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,879
Speaker 1: I think, and I don't really care that much about Olympics,

303
00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,879
Speaker 1: but that's just me. By the way I read this

304
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,280
Speaker 1: is amazing. I read too that they have received over

305
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:51,359
Speaker 1: eighteen thousand tips on this thing. I mean, how do

306
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280
Speaker 1: you run down all of those tips? And within the

307
00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,359
Speaker 1: last couple of days it looks like it's getting a

308
00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,439
Speaker 1: little bit better. But the question is not just in

309
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 1: my mind, but I think a lot of people why

310
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: is this case getting so much focus? And then you

311
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,760
Speaker 1: got thousands of other missing persons who get little or

312
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 1: no response. Again, I am not saying in any way,

313
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,880
Speaker 1: shape or form, that we shouldn't take this case seriously.

314
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 1: And based on what I've seen, and I've seen a

315
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,680
Speaker 1: lot because it's about all that's on the station I watch,

316
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,600
Speaker 1: they're doing a great job.

317
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 5: Now.

318
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,160
Speaker 1: I did see something walking out the door today where

319
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 1: I guess somebody one of the other law enforcement agencies

320
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 1: is feuding with the FBI. Not unusual for police officers

321
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 1: sometime police agencies, I guess, But I don't know. It's

322
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 1: just a disproportionate focus, I think. But I'd like to

323
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 1: know what you think. Seven four, nine, seven eight, the

324
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 1: big one are the numbers we're going to talk to

325
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 1: Bobby Jay Hey.

326
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 6: Bobby, Hey, Mike, thanks for taking my call. I'm happy

327
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,960
Speaker 6: for I think you're thirteen.

328
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh man, don't remind me, no problem. I know you too. Yeah,

329
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 1: what do you think about this Nancy Guthrie thing?

330
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 6: A little follow up on that number one. I think

331
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 6: they spend a lot more time on in what they should. Yeah,

332
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,800
Speaker 6: and if you look at the murders and things in

333
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 6: Cincinnati that are unsolved, even the woman that was shot

334
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 6: in the back six or seven times this last summer

335
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 6: where they had a suspect picture of it nowhere. So

336
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 6: I have feelings that they just overpresented it to the public.

337
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean, I've got Fox on

338
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: here in the studio. Obviously with the sound turn down,

339
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 1: they're taking a rare break from it now. But and again,

340
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 1: how many times can you trot a law enforcement offshro

341
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 1: out to say, well, you know, we got this and that,

342
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 1: but we don't know anything yet. I don't know. I'm

343
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 1: just what my question is, to the rest of the

344
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 1: public feel the way that you and I do. I

345
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 1: don't know. But there's a lot of other things to

346
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 1: talk about, Bobby.

347
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 5: I think I do too.

348
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,440
Speaker 6: I think anytime that you go past a seven day

349
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,120
Speaker 6: window on their coverage, everybody just loses interests and they'll

350
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 6: have another hot topic to come up sometime this weekend.

351
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 1: Yep, you're right about that, all right, Bobby. It's unusual

352
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: talking to you on a Friday, usually Saturday.

353
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 6: Every day is a good day talking to you, my brother,

354
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 6: and you just keep that torture freedom high and bright,

355
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 6: and keep this place lit.

356
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Up because it's dark outside. We appreciate everything you do.

357
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, thanks, Bobby. All right, let's talk to

358
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: Terry and Dell Hide. Get her opinion. Hey Terry, what

359
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: do you think.

360
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 7: Hi, Mike, how are you.

361
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 5: Hey? I'm good you're on the air today.

362
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: Thank you.

363
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 5: Hey.

364
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 7: Definitely too much coverage of the Guthrie thing.

365
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 5: This is crazy.

366
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 7: There's so many other people that are missing that pee

367
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 7: they could concentrate on, or just general news you know

368
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 7: that needs to be covered and make people aware. People.

369
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 7: People have enough trouble keeping up with, you know, daily

370
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 7: news that they should be concerned about, and then to

371
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 7: have so much coverage of this on the Guthrie situation

372
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 7: is way out of line.

373
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah and again, I keep saying it because I want

374
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,719
Speaker 1: people to know. I want her case to be solved

375
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: and solved quickly. One of the greatest things that would

376
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: ever happen, I don't know that it will, is that

377
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: she they work it out some way and she's unharmed.

378
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that that probably won't happen. I hope it does, though,

379
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know. When people say, well, wait a minute,

380
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: what about the I forget the figure I gave it

381
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: before all the other missing person cases, I don't know

382
00:21:53,880 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: how you answer that when you're talking about resources, right, Well,

383
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's uh, it's something that. I don't know.

384
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: It's got to come to a head soon. And with

385
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: respect to the coverage, I think what will probably happen

386
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: is that as time goes on, they'll probably cut it

387
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: back somewhat. But I guess we'll.

388
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 5: See, right right, Well, I have a good day.

389
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much for calling. Hey, let's lock

390
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: the George up in Columbus. Hey George, how you doing, buddy?

391
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 8: Hey Mike, I got I turn on the radio and

392
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 8: heard you. I thought I got call in. You're my

393
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 8: favorite host.

394
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.

395
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, the gut Thrie situation, there is a lot

396
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 8: of media, uh and most of us just to redond it.

397
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 8: If you go from one channel to another. I'm retired,

398
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 8: but most of it. You know, things are moving slower.

399
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 8: They seem like now I know they found the gloves.

400
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 8: It's a wonder they haven't made a sketch though. I

401
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 8: mean they got the guys you know in the camera's

402
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 8: got the eyes, the facials that you can see the face.

403
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 8: You just have to so wonder they haven't made a sketch,

404
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 8: you know, similar to what they think the person looks like.

405
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 8: I'm just surprised to have done that.

406
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 9: You can see the ears, the way the ears are shaping.

407
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, height it hat. Why haven't they made a sketch?

408
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 8: You know, you think that would come out right now.

409
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: You would think. And the FBI has so many tools.

410
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it is the top law enforcement agency in

411
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: the world when they focus on fighting crime, solving crimes,

412
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: and not political matters, which I don't think they are now.

413
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: But man, they got so many things that can do

414
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: kind of like what you're talking about. But maybe that'll

415
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: be down the line. I don't know. Let me ask you.

416
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: Like I said, I watched exclusively Fox. It's just what

417
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: I do. Haven't watched I don't think any of the

418
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: other networks. Are other networks doing the same thing or

419
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: do you know?

420
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 8: I tell you I get up early, and I got

421
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 8: up early the other morning and News Nation I turned

422
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 8: them on. I don't normally don't watch them, but this

423
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 8: reporter is real good. As name's Brianman. I think. Okay,

424
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 8: when they search that suspect's house just twelve miles north

425
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 8: of Mexican border, he was right there talking to the

426
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 8: mother in law of the guy and she was given

427
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 8: all the information. Uh, and I found that interesting, But

428
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 8: they let the guy go evidently he wouldn't. You know,

429
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 8: he didn't have anything to do with it. But you know,

430
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 8: what's you know what's surprising about this case. There was

431
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 8: a next camera, but no one paid the subscription for

432
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 8: the service. Well that's why it took so long to

433
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 8: get the information the camera. They had to go back

434
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 8: into the files and whatever and storage service storage. I'm

435
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 8: no technician about that, but that's what took so long.

436
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 8: And it's in the crazy so they and Augusthrie, she's

437
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 8: worth how many millions you know you think you would take.

438
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 8: I'm not criticizing her, but you know, my my mother

439
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 8: in law lived in our house for thirty years, took

440
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 8: care of her. You know, uh, you know, it's just crazy.

441
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 8: You let something like that go, and now you got

442
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 8: this big investigation that's costing how many millions of dollars?

443
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 3: You know?

444
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 8: And like I said, the average the average citizen doesn't

445
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 8: get that kind of service. You're right, You're right the

446
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 8: way things are handled.

447
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: Got to move on. Appreciate the call. Okay, okay, thank you,

448
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: all right, Let's talk to Tim in Western Hills. Hey, Tim,

449
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: what's up man?

450
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: Hey?

451
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 9: How you doing there?

452
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: Mike good?

453
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 10: What I wanted to bring up was Fox News. They

454
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 10: keep doing this thing, but what they got to go

455
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 10: back to is the Wisconsin and and end up there

456
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 10: in Minnesota. All the fraud. Yeah, that's going on. It

457
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 10: seems like it's back burner now and they should be

458
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 10: going after this. People should be in jail. I agree,

459
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 10: nothing seems to happen here. I agree, That's all I

460
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 10: wanted to say. I'm just I'm just kind of mad

461
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 10: that it seems like, you know, they bring all this

462
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 10: up and do all this and nothing ever happens.

463
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully they're getting close to, uh a great ending

464
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: for this thing. You gotta hope and pray for that.

465
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: But I guess we'll see. But I appreciate the call.

466
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 5: Oh okay, hey, how much you too?

467
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: How about Jeff and Zenia? Jeff, what do you think?

468
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 11: Well, Mike, I think it's I don't want to be

469
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 11: a cynic about it, but it's it's going on a

470
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 11: little bit normally longer than I think it needs to be,

471
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 11: because you know, if you figure out how many people

472
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 11: have gone missing in the time that this lady's been missing,

473
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 11: there's an awful lot of people out there that are missing.

474
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 5: In this country that or what.

475
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, did you hear me?

476
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 8: No?

477
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: The last part I didn't.

478
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: No.

479
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 11: I was just saying that, you know, this has been

480
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 11: going on now for twelve or fourteen days, you know,

481
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 11: and if she hasn't had her medicine for twelve or

482
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 11: fourteen days, that compound I know.

483
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, I said that in the intro to this thing.

484
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: You're right, and apparently she's, like many elderly people, on

485
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: a lot of meds and she doesn't have access to those.

486
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: God knows what's happening.

487
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 11: They are too, and it's I think it's going to

488
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 11: turn out to be something, something that nobody's expecting, because

489
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 11: this is like that's a one off.

490
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: You know.

491
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 11: The last time some celebrity, if you want to call

492
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 11: her a celebrity, had something like this happened to a

493
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 11: family member, it's been quite a long time that I

494
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 11: can yep. And usually usually you know, they always they

495
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 11: always look at the family members up front first, and

496
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 11: you know, it's it's whether the FBI is holding stuff

497
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 11: back to see what's going on. But I think after

498
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 11: twelve or fourteen days, I'm not sure the conclusion is

499
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 11: going to be a real heavy one.

500
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be concluded, but I'm not optimistic.

501
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: But hey, you know, you never know. All you can

502
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: do is hope, and I guess we'll see. I appreciate the.

503
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: Call, though, Cheff, exactly.

504
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 11: Thanks Mite.

505
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: Okay, buddy, all right, let's talk to doctor Dennis in Annapolis.

506
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: How you doing, doc?

507
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 9: Okay, Michael, you doing?

508
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm good. What do you think about all this?

509
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: Well?

510
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 9: Aspects one, what was the motivation for this kidnap men?

511
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 9: Was it for money or was it for revenge or

512
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 9: some other uh motivation?

513
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: And they're they're proceeding now like it's money they asked for.

514
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what they asked for in bitcoins.

515
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 9: Y yeah, Yeah, it's kind of strange that they went

516
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 9: through an intermediary, namely TMZ. Yeah, when kidnappers go through

517
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 9: an intermediary like that, a lot of people are questioning that.

518
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 9: That's just kind of strange. And and if you're and

519
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 9: if you're going to kidnap somebody this old eighty four,

520
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 9: I mean you would think that they would the the

521
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 9: the family is going to expect some proof of life,

522
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 9: and you're going to have to keep her alive if

523
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 9: you're going to do that, and without her medications how's

524
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 9: that going to happen? Well, I haven't heard whether I

525
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 9: haven't heard whether they left her medications behind or not.

526
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 9: I haven't heard that of you.

527
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: I haven't And I was thinking about that, and you're

528
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: an MD. I mean you tell me. I mean, how

529
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: long can an elderly person go without taking their meds?

530
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, it depends on what what she's taken them for.

531
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 9: But you're certainly going into the kidnapping with an eighty

532
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 9: four year old. It's going to be the extremely rare

533
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 9: victimness without any medications, right, you know, at eighty four?

534
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 9: I know, so it's kind of ridiculous that they would

535
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 9: would leave them behind. And I understand they were in

536
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 9: there about thirty minutes, right whoever kidnapped there about thirty minutes.

537
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: So I didn't hear one way or the other. But

538
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: if you heard that, that's the way it is.

539
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

540
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 9: But the other thing is I guess another way. I

541
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 9: don't know if this is kind of a way out there,

542
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 9: but if they if the family knew which medication she

543
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 9: was on, I'm wondering if they could somehow, you know,

544
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 9: if the kidnappers are trying to recover some or trying

545
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 9: to kind of sub supply some of those whether the

546
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 9: area of pharmacies could be alerted that certain medications were

547
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 9: being uh, you know, by by you know, a lesson

548
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 9: at Feryl doctor who's in on it prescribing them for

549
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 9: and you can make up the patient's name and uh

550
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 9: and get them to her that way.

551
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: That's a good point. That would be that you gotta

552
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: think they ran that down though, wouldn't you think?

553
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 9: Yeah?

554
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: But I would hope, yeah, yeah.

555
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 9: So and let's say let's they use different pharmacies for

556
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 9: the different medications.

557
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, hey, doctor, Unfortunately we're out of time. I

558
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: got to break Mike, but I really appreciate the call,

559
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: thank you, and appreciate your opinion, you know. And he's

560
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: right too. I mean, I don't think she would be

561
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: able to go very far at all without those meds.

562
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'll close this up by saying,

563
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: all you can do is hope and pray. And I

564
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: believe in prayer, and I know a lot of you

565
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: do too, that there is a a conclusion to this

566
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: thing to where she's still alive. But again, I'm not

567
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: real optimistic about it. But with respect to the coverage

568
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: of it, guys, just back off a little bit. There

569
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: are other things going on, and if something happens, we

570
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: know you'll break in anyway. We do have to break

571
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: for the news. But when we get back, I don't

572
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: know if you heard about it. You got these students

573
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: walking out of high school. It happened, and a couple

574
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: of schools, well actually more than that, Walnut Hills being

575
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: the main one. And what's the you know, the question

576
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: I think becomes what's more important in doctrinating our kids

577
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: or teaching them? Because test scores are at an all

578
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: time low. When we get back, Janis Heisel of the

579
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Epoch Times did an incredible deep dive into this, not

580
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: just locally, she covers the whole country, and we're going

581
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: to talk to Janis about We'll do that when we

582
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: get back. Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred WLW.

583
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: There's radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for the

584
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: Great American Today and Monday. You know, with test scores

585
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: at an all time low, and they are. If you

586
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: don't believe me, check it. You ask, especially for high school,

587
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: you ask yourself the question, what is the purpose of

588
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: high school to learn or to indoctrinate? You know, unfortunately

589
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: the teachers' unions and others think it's in doctrination. That's

590
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: just a fact. They don't appear to especially the unions.

591
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: They don't appear to be too concerned about the kids,

592
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: but of course they're real concerned about radical left wing causes.

593
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: And you know, we're seeing it here. A couple of

594
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago, hundreds of Walnut Hills High School students walked out,

595
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: and of course they protested. Ice also happened at Turpin

596
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: High School and some high schools up in Columbus. It

597
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: is happening all over the country. And Janis Heisel of

598
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: the Epoch Times, she did a deep dive into it,

599
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: and she's here today to talk about it. Janis, thanks

600
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: so much for joining us this afternoon.

601
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm glad to do it. Thanks.

602
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 8: Mike.

603
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 1: Hey, this really is happening all over the country, isn't it.

604
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 12: Oh my goodness. There's actually so many reports that I

605
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 12: had to kind of boil it down to a few

606
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 12: representative examples, and it was really hard to verify some

607
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 12: of the details. But we did actually have one of

608
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 12: my colleagues who lived in Texas. She physically went to

609
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 12: one of these protests scenes and made some pretty interesting observations.

610
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: I got to say, yeah, well why don't we Yeah,

611
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: what were they tell us about it? And then I'll

612
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: have some questions. Yeah.

613
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 12: So one of the things that I thought was really

614
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 12: interesting that she pointed out she interviewed some of these people,

615
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 12: young people who are participating in them, said that their

616
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 12: parents actually encouraged them to do this, which is a

617
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 12: little different than what I've seen a lot of complaints

618
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 12: from parents, where they're saying that they feel that teachers

619
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 12: or other adults are actually influencing the kids to do

620
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 12: this without parental permission or even letting them know parental notification.

621
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: So there's that.

622
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 12: But another thing that was kind of interesting is some

623
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 12: of the photographs of the particular demonstration in Texas. I

624
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 12: asked the photographer and the reporter, who are there, I'm going,

625
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 12: you know, it seems like that there was almost a

626
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 12: sense of glee among some of these students, and they

627
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 12: said there was. We ended up not describing that in

628
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 12: the wording per se, and because that's subjective, but you know,

629
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 12: I get the feeling based on some of the things

630
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 12: I've read also on that report that a lot of

631
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 12: these kids are just running a day off school, and

632
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 12: they do.

633
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Some of them may be.

634
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 12: Thinking that they're truly opposed to ice and whatever, but

635
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 12: a lot of them think about how the average kid

636
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 12: did want to be out of school or time off

637
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 12: of school. Sure, right, So it's kind of like, hey,

638
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 12: we're playing hooky yay.

639
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get that. You know so many people

640
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: that you talk to make so many good points. Erica

641
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: Franklin was someone that you talked to. She's I guess

642
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: her daughter goes to Olympic Middle School in Auburn, Washington.

643
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: She had a lot of interesting things to say. Can

644
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: you talk about her a little bit.

645
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 12: Yeah, This lady was very emotional about she's disabled. And

646
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 12: she shows up at her normal time to go pick

647
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 12: up her daughter at the school and was completely caught

648
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 12: off guard. She had zero idea that this walkout was

649
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 12: going to be happening, and she sees hundreds of kids

650
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 12: outside and she said her heart just quote caught fire

651
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 12: and her something she was worried is my kid out here?

652
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 12: Because she was also worried that they like blocking traffic

653
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 12: and it didn't look safe and you know, hey, it

654
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 12: was still very school hours. My kid's supposed to be

655
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 12: in school.

656
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: They're supposed to be watching her.

657
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 8: What in the world's going on?

658
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 13: So she ends up going.

659
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 12: Into the principal's office and demanding to see her daughter.

660
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 12: As it turned out, her daughter had opted not to participate, thirteen.

661
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Year old girl.

662
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 12: But her her daughter was really confused and kind of

663
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 12: stressed out by the whole thing, and the mother was

664
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 12: just very tearful in the videos that was supposed to

665
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 12: online as she was going, you know, I don't know

666
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 12: how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to

667
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 12: try to find a way to get you out of

668
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 12: this school. You're never coming back to this school again.

669
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 12: I'm going to find a way to pay for private school.

670
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 12: And a gift said go was set up for her

671
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 12: by a podcaster who knew about the story, and the

672
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 12: mother is now able to afford that.

673
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's great, and I think you're going

674
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: to be seeing more of that because I don't think

675
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: parents not certainly some, I guess, but the majority aren't

676
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: going to stand for it. But I guess we'll see.

677
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: On Miss Franklin, you got a great quote here. She says,

678
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: if you can't respect law enforcement and you want to

679
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: be out there protesting, then you should know what you're

680
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: signing up for. He did you find on some occasions,

681
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: maybe a couple occasions, that these kids didn't even know

682
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: what the heck they were going out there for.

683
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 12: Yeah, there is a sense along those lines that they

684
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 12: didn't really even understand or like threw in a bunch

685
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 12: of topics that aren't necessarily related to the whole Ice thing.

686
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 12: And you know, there's a lot of concern as well

687
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 12: about some media stint here, you know, reporting about the

688
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 12: shootings of Alex Pretty and Renee Good, some of the

689
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 12: characterizations calling it murder. As you and I have discussed before,

690
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 12: my course is a killing is not a murder until

691
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 12: a court convicts someone absolutely, And so you can debate

692
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 12: the circumstances of both shootings. There are different aspects to

693
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 12: them that you know, you can debate all day long,

694
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 12: but it comes down to the law is now whether

695
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 12: a jury will go with us or a judge will

696
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 12: go with this. But as you and I both know,

697
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 12: the law is that it's whether the officer, a reasonable officer,

698
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 12: would feel threatened in that circumstance to the point where

699
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 12: they thought that discharging the weapon was necessary. That's what

700
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 12: it should turn on.

701
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Legally correct, that's absolutely correct, that's absolutely corul.

702
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 12: But the kids, that's a nuance that that the kids

703
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 12: of these ages, I mean, for goodness sake, there are

704
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 12: there's documented cases some kids as young as kindergartens being involved,

705
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 12: and I mean there was one video I saw that

706
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 12: purported to show us. I don't know for a fact,

707
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 12: I haven't vetted this particular claim, but it looks like

708
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 12: there are adults escorting second graders and they may have

709
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 12: been teachers, I don't know, but out to do ice protests. Well,

710
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 12: certainly you might argue that some of the older shoulder

711
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 12: and maybe the teenagers understand a little more about what

712
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 12: they're actually protesting. But the youngest kids, my goodness, I

713
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 12: don't think that any reasonable person, using the reasonable standard there, Mike,

714
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 12: would would think that a kindergartener or a second grader

715
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 12: could possibly grasp what they're really supposedly marchie against.

716
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: You're right, and that teacher or teachers, if that's the case,

717
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: need to be summarily fired. I mean, a kindergarten kid,

718
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: they don't know what the heck ice is. They don't

719
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: know what the heck an illegal immigrant is just so

720
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: incredibly irresponsible. One of the things that in your story

721
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: Jana said, surprised me. Even in Forney, Texas, this is

722
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: going on. You'd say that about two hundred students walked

723
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: out of North Forney High School on February fifth. If

724
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: there's one state in the Union where you would have

725
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: thought they would have clamped down on, it'd be Texas.

726
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised by that.

727
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 14: Well, actually Texas, the Texas I forget the name of

728
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 14: it's a state agency did issues what quote unquote guidance

729
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 14: for districts and saying, look, this is not something we

730
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 14: can allow.

731
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 12: And they were citing and I think this is a

732
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 12: very interesting point that many people are not aware of

733
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 12: that yes, kids actually have free speech rights. However, nineteen

734
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 12: sixty nine court ruling Supreme Court said that schools may

735
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 12: limit student speech when it quotes materially or substantially interferes

736
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 12: with school operations and its central.

737
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: Mission, which is teaching students.

738
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 12: Right, So that is there are a lot of things

739
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 12: to balance here. And in the defense of schools, you know,

740
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 12: they're saying, hey, we don't want to be we can't

741
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 12: really take sides here, some of them saying that there's

742
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 12: been other ones where parents are accusing them of actually

743
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 12: having the teachers supporting this and even getting the kids

744
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 12: kids time in school to make anti ice posters and

745
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 12: things like that. Uh, there's one video I saw where

746
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 12: a kid was holding up a pro ice poster and

747
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 12: he was sucker punched in the face inside the school

748
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 12: by another kid. So there's it's you know, I think

749
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 12: under those circumstances, there could be a valid argument that

750
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 12: is absolutely materially interfering with school operations. If you've got

751
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 12: a kid punching another kid over ice, what does that

752
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 12: have to do with with what these.

753
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Great school kids are learning?

754
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 12: So there are some balancing tests here, parents, parental notification,

755
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 12: parental consent that we also have safety concerns. One mother

756
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 12: I talked to said, what if somebody snatches my kids,

757
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 12: you know, during this time when I thought the school

758
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 12: was watching them?

759
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Right about that? You know part of your story. I

760
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: just want to read it, I think a sentence of it.

761
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: Some parents have raised concerns that adults are encouraging school

762
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: children to become activists for a cause that many are

763
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: too young to understand. That's pretty much what you found.

764
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't put words in your mouth, Janis,

765
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: But is that accurate.

766
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 12: That's absolutely a theme that I heard consistently from the

767
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 12: parents that we talked.

768
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: To, as well as the videos that we reviewed. For sure.

769
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, do you a sense

770
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: from anyone that you talk to that obviously these would

771
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: be people that are opposed to this, that this is bad,

772
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: something's got to be done. Or did they shrug their

773
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: shoulders and say, you know, maybe next time we'll get involved.

774
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 12: You mean schools parents.

775
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: Yes, the school parents, yeah, or anyone really?

776
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 12: So, if I could, I would like to answer it

777
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 12: this way. The school districts, in my kingion out you

778
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 12: shouldn't as Sue, if I will.

779
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 5: Give this one.

780
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 12: We're very careful with how they responded to our requests.

781
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: A lot of times they did.

782
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 12: Not specifically respond to our requests for information, but instead

783
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 12: provided us with a statement that they set out to

784
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 12: district parents and families about, you know, if kids are

785
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 12: going to be mark absent.

786
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 8: Or whatever the wording was.

787
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 12: I'm betting that those statements were reviewed by lawyers because

788
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 12: there was actually a couple of situations where kids were

789
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 12: one situation where kids definitely was hit by a vehicle

790
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 12: and I saw legal expert Jonathan Turley said, Oh, this

791
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 12: could be an interesting lawsuit because again that in local

792
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 12: parentis meaning these kids are in the charge of the school.

793
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 12: They're acting like the parents they're supposed to be supervising

794
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 12: and protecting that. If they've fallen down on that responsibility, they're,

795
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 12: as he said, an interesting lawsuit. So that's one thing

796
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 12: that I did notice there. But I do get to sense.

797
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 12: So Texas did put out a policy statement about this,

798
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 12: saying that they could not be allowing this. However, there

799
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 12: was one mother I talked to who is that it

800
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 12: still went ahead, still happened. So at one of the

801
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 12: level I will say also with the schools, is it

802
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 12: seems like that they may not be able to physically

803
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 12: restraint kids from doing this.

804
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 13: So, especially these order kids.

805
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 5: What do you do?

806
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Lock the school doors and don't let them out. I

807
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: say that, I say that, yes, there's some safety concerns

808
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: about but this this really gets to me. It doesn't

809
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: surprise me. It's typical of the left, but it's concerning.

810
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: You talked to a person by the name of Ryan Staley.

811
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Found evidence. He told you found evidence suggesting and this

812
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: is a surprise either that left leaning groups appeared to

813
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: to be encouraging, organizing, or even training students in K

814
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: through twelve in Minnesota's Twin Cities to oppose ICE. So

815
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you at least heard some evidence that I

816
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: will just suppose your teachers' unions or other left wing

817
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: groups are involved in this. It's just not individual people.

818
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 12: Well, in fact, the National Education Association president was on

819
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 12: that Sunrise Movement video which included encouragement. Now, she didn't, necessarily,

820
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 12: to my recollection, say specifically that she encouraged it.

821
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: She was on a video that did encourage it.

822
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 12: That was the theme of the whole theme of the video,

823
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 12: with something like rode back to revolutions, and they were

824
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 12: just talking about ice protests in general. But the video

825
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 12: had students from a school in Minnesota who spoke about

826
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 12: their advocacy, you know, for this cause. And so then

827
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 12: in addition, I did speak to a state representative who

828
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 12: sits on the Education Committee. Her name is Pam Altendorf.

829
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 12: They're in Minnesota, and she was telling me that Education Minnesota,

830
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 12: which is the teachers union for that state, has been

831
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 12: opposing ICE. And you can directly go to the website

832
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 12: and see they have a web page that has an

833
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 12: anti ICE protest video and then a statement under that

834
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 12: that says that blight and Ice for what they call

835
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 12: sowing beear and chaos among students and families. So they're

836
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 12: saying they're blady Ice for that, and that's what the

837
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 12: picture is there for education.

838
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: Minnesota and a couple other districts have.

839
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 12: Actually also sued the federal government over a policy change

840
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 12: that lets ICE officers come into school areas. They these

841
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 12: pelacies be considered off limits. But if you have a

842
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 12: fleeing suspect that you tried to arrest for immigration and

843
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 12: or criminal violations and they go into school area, is

844
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 12: that now a faith haven or not.

845
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: So that's yet to be decided in a court.

846
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: You know.

847
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: And you talked to a student by the name of

848
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco, and you know, he's just a kid. And

849
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't want a running down too much, but I

850
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: just want to read part of the quote here. Okay,

851
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: this is a student I don't know what grade, but anyway, says, Hey,

852
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: we're not trying to hurt nobody, We're not trying to

853
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: cause no chaos. We're just trying to make our voice heard. Now,

854
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: I think you could make an argument that maybe he

855
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: ought to get in his English class a little bit

856
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: and learn how to speak properly, you know, And I'm

857
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: just trying.

858
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 12: Yet it was actually a senior in high school. And yeah,

859
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 12: I will say that that was a comment that a

860
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 12: number of readers actually made on this article as well.

861
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 12: So we're calling that out. And Ryan Staley is the

862
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 12: man who has done a lot of this research for

863
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 12: an organization called Defending Education. He actually did point out

864
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 12: that some of the districts where the walkouts are happening

865
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 12: fairly raily have some of the lowest, as you pointed

866
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 12: out the beginning of this segment, so the lowest standardizedest scores,

867
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 12: you know what.

868
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: And like I said, for those listening, if you don't

869
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: believe it, you can check it out. I did. Last Saturday.

870
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: We talked about this, you know. I guess let me

871
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: end this with a very brief statement. Last Saturday, I

872
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: went through the NEA. I got on their website. I

873
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: think that's when Randy there's two of them. Randy Weingartner

874
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: is the president of Janie. I went I don't know

875
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: four or five six pages before I saw anything that

876
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: had anything to do with teaching or kids. It's all

877
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: about these left wing causes. And you know, at this

878
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: sounds like Governor Abbott in Texas is got this on

879
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: his radar screen. Is that accurate.

880
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 12: From what I understand? Yes, Now I focus more on

881
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 12: the other I think you're actually referring to the National

882
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 12: Federation of Teachers that I focused mostly from this report,

883
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 12: I know on the National Education Association because of the

884
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 12: connection that the state representatives pointed out. So yeah, I

885
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 12: have to say, Texas it does seem issued some fairly

886
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 12: strong guidance. I haven't looked at Ohio's because I couldn't

887
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 12: do the entire country in one article, but at least

888
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 12: we gave people a good overview of the situation across

889
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 12: the country.

890
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: And another note to.

891
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 12: Leave this on is that some of these groups are

892
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 12: saying they want to do this at least monthly throughout

893
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 12: the entire rest of the school year.

894
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Well isn't that great? You know, with test scores in

895
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: the dumper, that's their priority. Hey, unfortunately Janis were out

896
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: of time. As usual. This has been very helpful, very educational,

897
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: and hope we can call on you again.

898
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 12: Thank you so much, Mike, appreciate it.

899
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. You know, this one, as you can

900
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: probably tell, has really hit a nerve with me. I

901
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: didn't ask janis this because I probably got ought to

902
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: get out of here, but just very quickly. There's a

903
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: guy named Jay Michael Waller. He's a former CIA operative.

904
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: He's now the director director of Strategy for the Center

905
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: for Security Policy. Listen to what he said. One sentence

906
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: and I'm done. He said that if young people are

907
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: given quote, given an IV drip bag of anti American

908
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: poison since kindergarten, that presupposes them to believe in those

909
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: principles and act accordingly. Right on the money, mister Waller. Anyway, Hey,

910
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: we got to take a break. We will be back.

911
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred wlw im prety

912
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: pumped up about it. Hello, Quiet, I'm broadcasting seg Man.

913
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: What she got for me?

914
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 15: Mike?

915
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: What's going on? Everything? All right?

916
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

917
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? Looking forward to opening day against the I think

918
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: they're playing Red Sox Red Sox yep.

919
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's a month about a month or so less

920
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 13: than well, about a month away. Yeah, and the Cactus

921
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 13: League opens up pretty soon too, one week from tomorrow.

922
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, pictures and catchers reported Monday.

923
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 13: I think Greg position players who are notn't there Elie

924
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 13: daily Cruise is there for a couple of days, and

925
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 13: uh position players that aren't there due tomorrow and then

926
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 13: their first full workout I believe is on Monday.

927
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: So there you go.

928
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 13: Glad to hear it, Mike, the Stooge reporters of proud

929
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 13: service of your local teme stars are heating and air

930
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 13: conditioning dealers.

931
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: Temes are quality you could feel in Cincinnati.

932
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 13: Call Station Heating, Get Air Solutions five one, three, three

933
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 13: six seven h E A T spot.

934
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: Thank you Roxy.

935
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 13: Also we want to thank Lear's Prime Market for our

936
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 13: lunch today Learsprime dot com. Lears Prime always a cut

937
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 13: above and coming up of course, available Friday through Lent,

938
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 13: which is coming up there. Mic hands down the top

939
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 13: beer bat and Haddock Fifth Sandwich and Cincinnati huge portion

940
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 13: served on marble rye tartar sauce on the side, huge

941
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 13: helping of string fry, simply a magnificent fifth sandwich through

942
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 13: lunch through Lent on Fridays at Lear's Prime Market. I'm

943
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 13: hungry beat after reading that, I'm me too. Also, before

944
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 13: we start, I want to say happy birthday today. To

945
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 13: the first lady of restaurants, Olga Larkin is Happy birthday

946
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 13: number ninety eight. Whoa at Ron's Roots, so you go

947
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 13: go buy r A frequently go Ron's Roost. Happy birthday

948
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 13: to Olga.

949
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 6: Absolutely or Mallory and I have got a joint mayoral

950
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 6: proclamation be it proclaims.

951
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 16: Whereas Olga Larkin was born on February thirteenth, nineteen twenty something.

952
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 13: Believe that leave the twenty eight.

953
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 4: They came to.

954
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 16: Cincinnati as an immigrant in nineteen fifty two. While working

955
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 16: as a server at the Hitching Post, she met her

956
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 16: husband correct.

957
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: The two married in nineteen.

958
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 16: Fifty seven and opened Rob's Roost in nineteen sixty.

959
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 2: What was this the original location.

960
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 16: For parents in Harrison Kay Whereas Olga Larkin and her

961
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 16: family have owned and operated Rob's Rooster in the Fridge

962
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 16: Town since nineteen sixty. Missus Larkin is the secret weapon

963
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 16: of the family's thriving business. Whereas at Rob's Rust, Olga

964
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 16: does the book work, all the ordering, creating employee schedules,

965
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 16: and checking in voices. Whereas Missus Larkin's family describes her

966
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 16: as an incredible woman who loves to work and is

967
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 16: dedicated to the family business. Whereas, thanks to missus Larkin's work,

968
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 16: I think it's set past amendment. Ron's rufe has been

969
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 16: a cultural cornerstone for sixty three years. Whereas missus olgall

970
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 16: Ark and celebrates her nineteenth birthday with family and friends. Now, therefore,

971
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 16: I app Temperature Wall and Mark maf Mallory, mayors of

972
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 16: the City of cincinaty do hereby proclaiming February thirteenth, twenty

973
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 16: twenty three as Old Larkin Day in Cincinnati.

974
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: There you go right there. That how about that Red's update.

975
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 13: Of course, Red's chief executive officer, Phil Castellini has been

976
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 13: named now the successor to his father Bob Castellini and

977
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 13: owning the Reds. Major League Baseball Clubs meeting in New

978
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 13: York approved that transfer of team control yesterday. Nick Crawle,

979
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 13: the president of Baseball Operations, said out in Arizona today

980
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 13: that nothing changes. He always spoke with Bob Castellini and

981
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 13: Phil Castellini all the time.

982
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: They work well together, and so he says there's no

983
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: to him, no difference.

984
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 13: One injury already Mike in the spring, Christian and then

985
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 13: Carnassi owned Strand is a sidelined with a hamstring injury,

986
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 13: going through some rehab. That's because of some offseason workouts

987
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 13: he went through. As we said, the Cactus League openers

988
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 13: one week from tomorrow against those Guardians. College baseball opens today.

989
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 13: You got Cincinnati, you got Xavier, NKU, Miami, Kentucky, Dayton, Louisville,

990
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 13: Wright State, and Ohio State all playing today.

991
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Baseball. Amen college game, YEP.

992
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 13: College basketball Tonightmlett Hall, of course is the site. Probably

993
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 13: already a gigantic traffic jam in that area because the

994
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 13: ou Bobcats are in town and they're going to battle

995
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 13: twenty third ranked twenty four and o the Miami RedHawks.

996
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: Game time tonight is nine pm. That's pretty sure you

997
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: better get there early.

998
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 5: YEP.

999
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: Tomorrow.

1000
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 13: College basketball Marquette and Xavier two thirty here on seven

1001
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 13: hundred WLW, Virginia and Florida three on ESPN fifteen thirty Sunday,

1002
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 13: the basketball Bearcats are back in action up against U

1003
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 13: Tall right here on seven hundred WLW Day seven of

1004
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 13: the Winter Olympics. The US men's curling team lost to

1005
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 13: Canada in the early round, six to three. The USA

1006
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 13: women's hockey team will face Italy today at three and

1007
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 13: a quarter final matchup and USA in third place fourteen

1008
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 13: total medals, tied with Well Norway's got the most. They're

1009
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 13: tied with Norway for second with four golds. Norway's got

1010
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 13: the most in Italy, I think, with eighteen a piece

1011
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 13: so far. And then Bengals Update brought to you by

1012
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 13: Good Spirits, Winding Tobacco and Party Town, thirteen locations in

1013
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 13: northern Kentucky. Bengals finalizing their coaching staff the twenty twenty

1014
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 13: six season by hiring Davis Coder as an assistant wide

1015
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 13: receivers coach. Coder comes from the University of South Carolina,

1016
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 13: where he was assistant quarterback coach. So I think as

1017
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 13: Zach Taylor now has a bigger group of assistant coaches,

1018
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 13: then the president of the United States has people in

1019
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 13: his cabinet. I mean, it's let's see, it's pretty good seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirty, fourteen, fifteen,

1020
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 13: it's fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two,

1021
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 13: twenty three, twenty three assistant coaches. Now, like I said,

1022
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 13: that's got to be bigger than the than the and

1023
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 13: Tom Cameron.

1024
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. What the exact number is.

1025
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 13: But I'm I hope they got enough room or maybe

1026
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 13: they're doubling up down there at at pay Course. No

1027
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 13: under there, no onder their veteran renovating the joint. Let's

1028
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 13: see NFL news. Former elder grad PJ. Volker is leaving Navy,

1029
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 13: where he was the defensive coordinator he became. He's going

1030
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 13: to be the new safeties coach of the Baltimore Ravens.

1031
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 13: Of course, vocal has Vulker has a long history with

1032
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 13: new Ravens head coach Jesse Mintor, the son of Rick Minner,

1033
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 13: former UC coach.

1034
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: They go back to their playing days at Mount Saint Joe.

1035
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: There you go.

1036
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 13: The NFL says that Wednesday or Thursday will be the

1037
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 13: game that they will open the season in Melbourne, Australia

1038
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 13: between the forty nine ers and Rams.

1039
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: There you go, yd They'll be back. Let's see what

1040
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: a trip that must be.

1041
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 13: Ehl action tonight on the ice Cyclone's host Toledo. Then

1042
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 13: they're at Toledo tomorrow, then then home again Sunday against

1043
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 13: the Indie Fuel College Hockey Number twenty. Miami's at third

1044
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 13: rated North Dakota tonight and tomorrow speaking of the RedHawks,

1045
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 13: the women's basketball team at Miami's twenty and four, eleven

1046
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 13: and zero in the Macmike Wow and Miami Baseball has

1047
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 13: been picked in a preseason poll to win the Mid

1048
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 13: American Conference regular season and baseball tournament. They got it

1049
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 13: going in Aufford, Well, they sure do. They got another

1050
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 13: winners up there. You're so right about that, it's unbelievable.

1051
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 13: And yeah, go ahead, can I answer you some Reds questions?

1052
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Wanted to ask you. I saw today that

1053
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: the Phillies released Nick Caslanos. Yes, do you think he'll fit?

1054
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: Could he fit in anywhere with the Reds? I don't know.

1055
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 13: I think that they he had some he had a

1056
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 13: good couple of years here and if I can remember right,

1057
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 13: and uh, I mean he's just slipped off the off

1058
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 13: the map, and when you when you get released. But

1059
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 13: you know, he gets twenty the Phillies are gonna eat

1060
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 13: his contract at twenty million bucks, so he's not going

1061
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 13: away too sad.

1062
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know.

1063
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 13: It's I think they they got to they're they're gonna

1064
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 13: have a good team here and just see what happens

1065
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 13: with mister Castianos.

1066
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm always optimistic about the Reds

1067
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: no matter what. But man, this offseason, it sure seems

1068
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: like they strengthen theirself. They got the guy could give

1069
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: him a little bit of pop, right uh with Auen,

1070
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: I feel really good about it. Amen, I think so too.

1071
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 13: I mean, if they didn't hadn't signed him, they really

1072
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 13: I think would be behind the eight ball. But you

1073
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 13: got to you got a proven guy. You've got a

1074
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 13: guy here that's beloved by the fans. And if he

1075
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 13: can if he can hit thirty homers, yep, whatever, and

1076
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 13: a couple of these other guys get with it, that

1077
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 13: could hit maybe twenty twenty to twenty five or whatever,

1078
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 13: this and that get some runs. You know, Ellie Day

1079
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 13: La Cruz has to have a better second half than

1080
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 13: he did the first half last year. He has to

1081
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 13: have almost a complete season to help him out. And

1082
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 13: then the bullpen has been strengthened, and you got to

1083
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 13: keep those five guys in the starting pitching healthy.

1084
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: I read something and I think I think then that

1085
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: then then I think then they'll they'll head to the playoffs.

1086
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: One and some commentator said the Reds are easily within

1087
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: the top five for starting rotation. I mean that's pretty good.

1088
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 13: Right, And I mean, you know, one hundred Green leads

1089
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 13: the way he's got to, you know, with the with

1090
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 13: the with the throwing up on the mound, and then

1091
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 13: also the groin problem that he had. You had Nicolodola

1092
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 13: with the blisters last year. The only guy that stayed

1093
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 13: really healthy was Andrew Abbott yep. And the rest of them,

1094
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 13: you know, Rhet Louder got hurt and this and that,

1095
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 13: and Chase Burns and you know then you know, you

1096
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 13: got you can't let these young guys just you know, throw,

1097
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 13: throw and throw, and then all of a sudden, a

1098
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 13: couple of years down the road, they're done.

1099
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 5: Yep.

1100
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 13: So you got to keep these guys, you know, under wraps,

1101
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 13: so to speak. And if they if that starting rotation

1102
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 13: can stay healthy for ninety percent of the season, I

1103
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 13: think the red and the Reds can score some runs.

1104
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 13: I think you got you got a good mix of

1105
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 13: a playoff action coming up.

1106
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: In a strong field for the fifth starter.

1107
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 13: Too, right, that's correct, Like Burns and that that type

1108
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 13: of thing. Yeah, you know who and you know you

1109
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 13: got Brady Singer in there. You got Brandon Williamson, who

1110
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 13: was who was hurt? And uh, if they can, if

1111
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 13: they can keep the majority of that starting group healthy

1112
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 13: for most of the season, I think he got a.

1113
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: Darn good chance. I think so too. You know what

1114
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: might be the best news of the offseason is Hunter

1115
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: Green stage right, they talked about Trey. I get that

1116
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't going anywhere good.

1117
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 13: I mean they would want, they would want the they

1118
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 13: would want the farm plus the other farm and then

1119
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 13: a ranch for him. So I don't think he was

1120
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 13: going anywhere at all. I mean, I mean, the only

1121
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 13: guy who would you want.

1122
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

1123
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: I mean.

1124
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: To me, it was not And you know, I don't

1125
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: think he was.

1126
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 13: I don't think they, you know, threw him out there

1127
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 13: to get you know, because I mean that guy was

1128
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 13: that that guy has been. He's the ace and he's

1129
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 13: he's the king of the of the group.

1130
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, we just keep our

1131
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: fingers crossings healthy, you know.

1132
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 5: Yep.

1133
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. With Phil Castelini taken over

1134
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: for mister Robert castle Leine, you see any change in

1135
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, perspective on the team. No, No, I don't.

1136
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 13: I don't think now I think and mister Casteline, he's

1137
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 13: still got he's still involved with the whole thing and

1138
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 13: everything else. But uh, you know, they just sent control

1139
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 13: over to phil and uh, yeah, I don't think anything's

1140
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 13: going to change too much.

1141
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: No, no, one more question. Are you an Olympics guy?

1142
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah? I like it? Do you?

1143
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean what are you watching?

1144
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 13: You can't say half their names, but uh, you know,

1145
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 13: but you just focus on the Americans. I like the

1146
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 13: ice hockey, I like the Bob sled, the luge, uh,

1147
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 13: the giant slalom and uh.

1148
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: And this downhill skiing is amazing to me.

1149
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 13: And now you've got the drones right behind these folks

1150
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 13: didn't and it is, uh, it's it's incredible.

1151
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I watch it too, not really

1152
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: that religiously, but I did see some something this morning

1153
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: about somebody's complaining about a judge cheating. Yeah it was

1154
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: the ice dancing thing. Yeah, so I don't.

1155
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it is what it is.

1156
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: We shall see. Hey, listen, we're out of time. We

1157
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: got to get out of here.

1158
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 13: Saying Mike, in honor of a beautiful day and weekend ahead,

1159
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 13: we leave you with the immortal words of the stooge report.

1160
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: You're on the radio, you can say whatever you want.

1161
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: I'll remember that. Got a point. All right, Thank you

1162
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: so much, sir. Hey, we got to take a break,

1163
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: but we'll be back and we're going to talk Epstein, Epstein,

1164
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: Epstein with legal analyst Steve Gooden when we get back.

1165
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred WLW two eight

1166
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: News Radio, seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for the

1167
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: Great American Today and Monday. Well, I'll tell you what

1168
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: it's Epstein, Epstein, Epstein never ends, no matter how much

1169
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: you wanted to, never ends. We got a new twist now.

1170
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: Recent reports indicate that there's a connection. There was a

1171
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: connection between Epstein and former OSU president Gordon g and

1172
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: now the first flying up in Ohio State, even to

1173
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: the point where people are getting tackled. Here to talk

1174
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: about it is attorney in legal commentator Steve Gooden. He

1175
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: is a partner at the law firm of Porter Right,

1176
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: handling complicated civil and criminal matters. Steve, thanks so much

1177
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: for taking time out of your day today to talk

1178
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: to us.

1179
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 15: Happy to Mike, and I won't even send you a billy.

1180
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: I hope your partners are okay with that.

1181
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 5: I got the door closed. They don't know what I'm doing.

1182
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, can you tell us a little breakdown? And

1183
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. I hadn't heard of it until you told

1184
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: me yesterday. I guess what the heck's going on up

1185
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: at Ohio State with Gordon and Less Wexner and everybody else.

1186
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 15: Well, it's a really strange scenario. So, I mean, a

1187
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 15: lot of folks, Well, everyone knows who Jeffrey Epstein is

1188
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 15: right now, and I unfortunately have spent some time going

1189
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 15: through the files which are now searchable and available online.

1190
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 15: And I got to tell you there's a lot of

1191
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 15: rich and powerful people whose names come une in those files.

1192
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 15: I mean, and you wouldn't believe it. There's not a

1193
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 15: lot of Ohio connections, but the Ohio connection that's probably

1194
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 15: the most prominent is less Wexner. And a lot of

1195
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 15: folks anyone who works in Columbus or using Columbus is going.

1196
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: To know that name. He's eighty eight years old.

1197
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 7: Now.

1198
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 15: We own something called L Brands, which is a parent

1199
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 15: company that owned these huge retailers like Victoria's Secrets in

1200
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 15: Abercrombie and Fitch being the two most popular, so just

1201
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 15: dominated kind of the malls nationwide, you know, in the nineties,

1202
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 15: and has more money. He's like a billionaire several times over.

1203
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 15: He was very close with Jeffrey Epstein.

1204
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know that. I wouldn't have

1205
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: suspected that. He also is big guy in politics, and

1206
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: at least when I talked to him years ago, an

1207
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: extremely nice man. I hate to see this that happened.

1208
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, I mean he is.

1209
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 15: He's very well known as a donor both to Republicans

1210
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 15: and Democrats. Still has a house in the Columbus area,

1211
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 15: you know, and but apparently I don't think this is

1212
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 15: even contested anymore. He was the guy that gifted Jeffrey

1213
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 15: Epstein his townhouse in New York City, seventy seven million

1214
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 15: dollars townhouse that.

1215
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 5: Was at the heart of this thing.

1216
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

1217
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: And there's some yeah, and.

1218
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 15: There were some indications that Wexter himself had been under

1219
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 15: investigation as well by different state and local or federal

1220
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 15: authorities during the course of this. He was never charged

1221
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 15: with anything. I think that's important to stress sure, But

1222
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 15: how this has been tacking back to OSU is BacT

1223
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 15: when Gordon Gee was was president of Ohio State University.

1224
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 15: As this was all sort of blowing up back between

1225
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 15: two thousand and eight and twenty thirteen, when it was

1226
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 15: first becoming a parent that Wexner may be connected and

1227
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 15: that Epstein was involved in things that were illegal, and

1228
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 15: it was all sort of bubbling up and becoming public.

1229
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 15: The LSU accepted, through Ghee, millions upon millions of dollars

1230
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 15: from Les Wexner naming all kinds of things, including part

1231
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 15: of the Horseshoe Stadium is named after Wexner now, and

1232
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 15: there's like a Wexner convention Center, an arts center and

1233
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 15: all these things. And the argument that a lot of

1234
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 15: folks are making is that that money is tainted, that

1235
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 15: his name should come off these things.

1236
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 5: And as luck would have it, Gordon Gee is back

1237
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 5: at Ohio State now.

1238
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 15: A lot of folks don't know that he is back

1239
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 15: as sort of a glorified consultant slash vice president, assisting

1240
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 15: in fundraising and several other things, which is sort of

1241
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 15: his you know where he's back down. But this has

1242
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 15: become a steady drumbeat kind of beating on both Gordon

1243
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 15: Ghee and as well as just to basically take the

1244
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 15: Wexner name off things, and to either give the money

1245
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 15: back or at least at least take the Wexner name

1246
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 15: off because Wexner, they say, just was too close to Epstein.

1247
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 15: Now there's no indication that Gordon Gee knew any of

1248
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 15: this stuff or when he knew it, and he's been

1249
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 15: defending himself quite a bit. But it really became national

1250
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 15: news about two days ago when a couple sort of

1251
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 15: independent journalists kind of tried to show up at a

1252
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 15: meeting with Gordon Gee and he wanted to interview him,

1253
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 15: and one of them ended up being tackled and taken

1254
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 15: down by an OSU professor. So it's become very heated.

1255
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 15: It was made the New York Times this morning. So

1256
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 15: there's a guy called the Rooster in Columbus who kind

1257
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 15: of does what they call ambush journalism. He goes around

1258
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 15: with an iPhone trying to interview state officials, and he

1259
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 15: has really been doggedly tracking Gordon Gee around the Ohio

1260
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 15: State campus trying to ask him about Epstein and Les Wexner,

1261
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 15: and that finally blew up it wasn't and he that

1262
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 15: was tackled. But there he now has some guys that

1263
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 15: kind of follow him around and with cameras. You know,

1264
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 15: everybody's a journalist. None of these guys are actually work

1265
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 15: for a newspaper or a news organization, but they.

1266
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 5: Have blogs and Twitter feeds and so forth.

1267
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 15: And they and they've amassed a real following, particularly in

1268
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 15: the Columbus areas. So you know, the game national news

1269
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 15: because finally a professor had kind of had it with

1270
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 15: these guys shoving iPhones in his face and trying to

1271
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 15: get to Gordon Gee stepped in between Gee and one

1272
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 15: of these guys and they got into a fight there

1273
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 15: at Ohio State. So yeah, it's an odd, odd time.

1274
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 15: But if you pick up a newspaper and Columbus a

1275
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 15: Trump pagent.

1276
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure the dispatch is all over

1277
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: that there is there any indication at all that lex

1278
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: Western did anything of a criminal nature and perhaps could

1279
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: face federal charges.

1280
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 15: At this point in time, I would think it's very

1281
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 15: very unlikely he could face charges, but there are references

1282
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 15: throughout the Epstein files that seemed to indicate that he

1283
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 15: was at one point viewed as a potential conspirator in

1284
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 15: some aspect of this, whether it be the cover up

1285
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 15: or you know, or the actual activities it's sexual activities itself.

1286
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 15: It's kind of unclear from what I have seen at

1287
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 15: this point, but there's definitely some indication that at some

1288
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 15: point he was under investigation.

1289
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: Whether that goes anywhere or not, we don't know.

1290
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 15: But we also know that the three big people left

1291
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 15: to testify before the committee, You're going to be Hillary Clinton,

1292
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 15: Bill Clinton, and Les Wexner.

1293
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 4: And we know that even though he's eighty eight.

1294
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: That Comerce Committee is going to bring him in.

1295
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 15: I think there's still some question as to whether it

1296
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 15: will be a private, behind closed door deposition or whether

1297
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 15: he will testify publicly. But it looks as though he

1298
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 15: is more likely than not going to be interviewed by

1299
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 15: the committee, the Congressional committee in the House, on his

1300
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 15: connections to Jeffrey Epstein, So that will in all likelihood

1301
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 15: occur sometime during the month of March.

1302
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: Steve, you had mentioned at the begining that you have

1303
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: looked at a lot of the documents in the Epstein files,

1304
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, is there anything that you care to

1305
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: tell us that probably the general public wouldn't know yet.

1306
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 15: Well, I mean, I'm saying there's millions upon millions of them.

1307
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 15: There's hours of video footage, and you know, because I've

1308
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 15: been doing these commentaries, have been trying to get at

1309
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 15: least a flavor for it. And I guess what I

1310
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 15: would say is that, you know, I think we all

1311
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 15: owe QAnon and apology.

1312
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 5: There's some crazy stuff in there.

1313
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 15: It is amazing how many rich and famous people that

1314
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 15: he had connections with, and some of the stuff that

1315
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 15: you see that is so mind boggling to me. It

1316
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 15: doesn't even focus on the sexual crimes, which are you know,

1317
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 15: I think, pretty well established and just beyond awful, right,

1318
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 15: But it's just stuff like there's a random email I

1319
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 15: saw where he's emailing Bill Gates back in twenty eleven,

1320
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 15: Bill Gates, Microsoft president was the most powerful businessman in

1321
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 15: the world, and they're talking back and forth about pandemic

1322
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 15: preparations and.

1323
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 5: Tests of what to do with the pandue. And why

1324
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 5: is a guy like Jeff.

1325
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 15: Epstein a sexual predator? Why does he have access to

1326
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 15: people like that? Why is he talking about these big

1327
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 15: issues of global policy.

1328
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

1329
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 15: There's even a lot of emails with he and Bill

1330
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 15: Clinton talking about foreign policy and things of that nature.

1331
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 15: And what is Fascinating to me too, is how the

1332
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 15: fallout is seems endless. I mean, you had just yesterday

1333
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 15: the general counsel for Goldman Sachs of Wall Street had

1334
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 15: to resign because what came out in the emails was

1335
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 15: that she was still friendly with him even after he

1336
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 15: was indicted and did some jail time, as well as

1337
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 15: the president of Barclays. And now I guess this cure

1338
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 15: Stammer or Starmer, who is the Prime Minister of England

1339
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 15: of Great Britain, is actually, in all likelihood there's a

1340
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 15: very good chance to Wall Street journal says that he

1341
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 15: will lose his government. Stermery never even met Epstein, but

1342
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 15: half of his cabinet is in the Epstein files one

1343
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 15: way or another. So this, I mean, you may actually

1344
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 15: have a government fall in one of our allies as

1345
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 15: a result of as a result of what's in these

1346
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 15: files and sins I've got. The Prime Minster apparently never

1347
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 15: met Epstein, talked to him and did anything, but a

1348
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 15: lot of his advisors and cabinet officials did. So the

1349
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 15: fallout I think will continue to ripple through I mean

1350
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 15: not just our politics but international politics for some time.

1351
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Man, that it's taken this long and we're

1352
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: not even close to being done with it. You know,

1353
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: I believe what you're saying, that it's just going to drip, drip, drip. Now,

1354
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: last question on that, there's no indication that President Trump

1355
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: is involved in any nefarious activities with Epstein, is there?

1356
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw something the other day where apparently,

1357
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: like two thousand and four, Trump told him to go

1358
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 1: to hell and don't come back to mar Lago, you know,

1359
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: so it doesn't look like he's in the jackpot on this.

1360
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 5: Well, you know, that's one of the most amazing things.

1361
01:14:59,000 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: No.

1362
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 15: I read somewhere and again again, there are millions of

1363
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 15: these things that there are close to thirty thousand references

1364
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 15: to Trump or Trump family.

1365
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 5: Members throughout the Epstein files. There is no question he.

1366
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 15: Knew him, no question they socialized, there's videos of it,

1367
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 15: et cetera, et cetera. But so far, no one, neither

1368
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 15: me nor the folks who were doing this you know

1369
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 15: for a living, have have linked him directly to anything

1370
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 15: you know, credible in terms of sexual abuse. Now, there

1371
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 15: are reports throughout where where anonymous people you know, tried

1372
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 15: to report things about Donald Trump and children to the FBI.

1373
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 15: I mean those are throughout, Those are throughout, But those

1374
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 15: investigations never went anywhere apparently, and they weren't, you know,

1375
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 15: deemed to be credible at the time. I mean, there's

1376
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 15: no question he knew him. I mean Trump's story was

1377
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 15: that he abanned him from mar A Lago, as you

1378
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 15: said back, you know, twenty some years ago. There's now

1379
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 15: the Palm Beach police chief has come forward, who is

1380
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 15: which is where mar A Lago is and said that

1381
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 15: you know, Trump told him this guy, we suspect he's

1382
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 15: terrible and a creep and dust stuff with children, and

1383
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 15: that he said, you know, the Trump notified him of

1384
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 15: that early on. So so far you know nothing there.

1385
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 15: It's one of the great kind of ironies of this.

1386
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 15: So you may have the Prime Minister of England may

1387
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 15: be forced to resign who never met Epstein, but Trump,

1388
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 15: who knew him, well, looks.

1389
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 5: Like he may be in the clear. It's great. It's

1390
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 5: a weird world we live in. It is.

1391
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: Let me shift Gears. I've been looking forward to asking

1392
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,799
Speaker 1: you about this, uh, Pete Hegseth and Senator Mark Kelly.

1393
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: I guess the way it happened is heg Seth tried

1394
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: to discipline him, I guess by knocking his rank down.

1395
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: He's a captain in the Navy, which I believe is

1396
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: equivalent to a bird colonel in the Right and Marine Corps.

1397
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask you first, Steven, and you and I

1398
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: both served in the Fighting one thirty fifth JAG Detachment,

1399
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: so at least you know a little bit about what

1400
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: you now, you know a lot about what you're talking about.

1401
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 5: No, no, you know it too well.

1402
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you, how is this not

1403
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: a UCMJ matter Uniform Code of Military Justice matter, if

1404
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: in fact the Army still has jurisdiction over them, which

1405
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: apparently they do.

1406
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean he's a retiree at this point, and

1407
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 15: under the u CMJ, there are a lot of ways

1408
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 15: you can bring someone back to active duty to face charges, and.

1409
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 5: That is the gray area we're in here.

1410
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 15: Now. Is this idea that the statements he made were

1411
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 15: post retirement. Now, typically when they bring people back onto

1412
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 15: active duty, and I was actually involved in one of

1413
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 15: these cases when this happened, it's because the crime or

1414
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 15: the violation of the UCMJ occurred while you were on

1415
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 15: active duty. It's much more gray about what you can

1416
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 15: do afterwards. And what there's been a lot of activity

1417
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 15: on this in the last seventy two hours. What the

1418
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 15: Wall Street Journal found was that there was an effort

1419
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 15: made by the Justice Department to indict Kelly and the

1420
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 15: other people who were in this video, and yeah, in

1421
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 15: the video basically there's no way around it, more or

1422
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 15: less encouraging members in the mill of all branches in

1423
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 15: the military to start to push back against so called

1424
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 15: illegal orders like you know, in their view, particularly the

1425
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 15: shootings down in his gunboats outside of Venezuela. So they

1426
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 15: but it looks as though the grand jury this leap,

1427
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 15: that the grand jury pushed back and refused to sign

1428
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 15: off on the indictment. So that absolutely changed things. So

1429
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 15: they didn't proceed with the US the u CMJ. They

1430
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 15: were looking under the regular federal criminal law, likely in

1431
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 15: terms of some sort of sedition type concept. And we

1432
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 15: don't know what was presented there yet because it was

1433
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 15: in secret, but we know the grand jury declined, which

1434
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 15: is kind of remarkable. And then yesterday or rather on Wednesday,

1435
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 15: a federal judge granted what was essentially an injunction, temporarily

1436
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 15: saying that you cannot reduce him in Kelly in rank

1437
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 15: because he was using his First Amendment rights and because

1438
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 15: he was a retiree.

1439
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 5: So this doesn't seem to be going excess way.

1440
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,839
Speaker 15: I mean, I think you know what Kelly did, Senator

1441
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 15: Kelly did here was I think, in my personal view,

1442
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 15: just despicable. It's very much like the folks who are

1443
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 15: fighting with the ice agents protest protests. But if you're

1444
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 15: going to be out there trying to encourage people to

1445
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 15: break the law and so forth, that's a very different thing.

1446
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 15: And and he could put some young service members in

1447
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 15: a very bad situation if we listen to.

1448
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: Him very much so, and it's a horrible precedent. I mean,

1449
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, the soldier out in the field, the airman

1450
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: that's taken care of the jets and everything in a

1451
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: combat zone, how in the hell are they supposed to

1452
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: know whether what the order was was violative of the

1453
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: u CMJ. It puts them in a really horrible position.

1454
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 5: I think, well, that's right.

1455
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 15: I mean, there are law professors, you know who disagree

1456
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 15: about the lawfulness.

1457
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 5: Of some of these orders.

1458
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 15: I mean, and some of them I get some of

1459
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 15: it is I mean, Trump and his folks and heg

1460
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 15: seth they are. They are pushing for them most robust

1461
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 15: use of you know, of executive power they can and

1462
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 15: I get it, and I and there's parts of it

1463
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 15: that I have questioned marks around too. But those kinds

1464
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 15: of policy decisions are not for the rank and file

1465
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 15: soldiers to make. And putting them in that position and

1466
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 15: insinuating that they are have some sort of duty to

1467
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 15: disobey and order like this is just I mean, you

1468
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 15: cannot run a military that way. It's unfair to them,

1469
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 15: and it really is, you know, more of a question

1470
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 15: mark than not. I mean, if there is a clear,

1471
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 15: clear order to kill civilians or do something like that

1472
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 15: that's clearly clearly violates the Geneva Convention or the u CMJ,

1473
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 15: I mean, that's a different matter. But try to argue

1474
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 15: about whether or not we can do these, you know,

1475
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 15: particularly do these like boat interdictions you know, in international waters.

1476
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 15: I mean, it's pretty good arguments both ways. So it's

1477
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 15: just very unfair to put the put the soldiers in

1478
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:55,520
Speaker 15: that posite.

1479
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: Very unfair and a horrible precedent. We're almost out of time.

1480
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: I have time for one more not so much question,

1481
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: but our mutual friend one Orlando Sanza. I was doing

1482
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: some research on our buddy Don Lemon and lo and

1483
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: behold he's one of the attorneys involved in it. As

1484
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I read something today he might

1485
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: I think he might be the lead council.

1486
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 5: That's right, I mean, that's a uh yeah, I know.

1487
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 5: He'd left me since out.

1488
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 15: The area about a year and a half ago to

1489
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 15: take a position in the Trump Department of Justice. Uh

1490
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 15: and he's moved along there. He's a West Point graduate,

1491
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 15: very bright guy, and we worked here in the Hamilton

1492
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 15: County Prosecutor's office for a while. Absolutely family, good family,

1493
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 15: got great family. And you know also you know, ran

1494
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 15: for Congress I think against Greg Lansman unsuccessfully, but put

1495
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 15: a good, good fight out. But yes, I mean Don

1496
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 15: Lennon has been charged. I'm a little bit surprised they

1497
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 15: got it through. But he's been actually charged with a

1498
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 15: violation of the Face Act for all that you know,

1499
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 15: running into the church with those protesters and disrupting the

1500
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 15: church service. And it looked as though, you know, they

1501
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 15: tried to get a misdemeanor a violation signed against them.

1502
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 15: The Federal Magistry Judge of Minneapolis refused to sign it,

1503
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 15: so they turned around and took it to a grand jury,

1504
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 15: and now he's faced with a felony violation.

1505
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was, he was more. He was more than

1506
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: a journalist in that thing. Hey, Steve, we're out of time,

1507
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: but as always, so appreciate your analysis.

1508
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 5: On this stuff. Hey, anytime, My pleasure to take care.

1509
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1510
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, we got to take a break, but

1511
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: we'll be back. Mike Allen in for Willie seven hundred WLW.

1512
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: I have to admit we really blew the way we

1513
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: let those attorneys go. You know you've lost it when

1514
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: people sympathize with lawyers.

1515
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,440
Speaker 8: Oh hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting.

1516
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: God, how's our buddy George W. Bush about that? Mike,

1517
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I mean. We sure could use

1518
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: him now, that's for sure, Mike. The uh let's see.

1519
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 13: The Stute Reporter is a proud service of your local Tamsar.

1520
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Heating and air Conditioning dealers. Tams are quality.

1521
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 13: You can feel in beautiful northern Kentucky for any weather

1522
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 13: heating and air at eight five, nine, seven, eight to

1523
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 13: one forty eight twenty two spots. Thank you, Roxy, Mollett,

1524
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 13: Hall and Oxford. The site tonight, Mike sold out. Game

1525
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 13: time is nine o'clock the Ohio You Bobcats against the

1526
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 13: twenty third ranked and twenty four and oh Miami RedHawks.

1527
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 13: Big pep rally they had on campus last night, and

1528
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,480
Speaker 13: that place is going to be rocking unbelievable.

1529
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: Probably already is, you know, just between you and I talking,

1530
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: I got on the on the internet and there's one

1531
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: poll where they're ranked number nine.

1532
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 13: I forget which one it was. I mean, what was

1533
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 13: the Travis Steels. Travis Steel's got him moving. I mean,

1534
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 13: he's got him going up there. It's really it's a

1535
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 13: great season. Glad to see it. Tomorrow. In college basketball,

1536
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 13: Marquette and Xavier at two thirty here on seven hundred WLW,

1537
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 13: Kentucky and Florida, the Cats and the Gators at three

1538
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:23,520
Speaker 13: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Bearcats are in action Sunday afternoon,

1539
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 13: hosting Utah. Also here on seven hundred WLW. Red's update

1540
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 13: the Reds Cactus League opener a week from tomorrow against

1541
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,959
Speaker 13: the Guardians. First injury of the spring, Christian and Cardassi

1542
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 13: on strands sideline with a hamstring injury suffered from his

1543
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 13: off season workouts, but they got him on a running

1544
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 13: program and he's.

1545
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: Going to rehab.

1546
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 13: Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits, Winding Tobacco

1547
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 13: and Party Town with thirteen convenient locations in Northern Kentucky.

1548
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 13: Bengals finally finalizing their coaching staff for the twenty twenty

1549
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 13: sixth season today with the hiring of Davis Coder as

1550
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 13: assistant wide receivers coach. Coder was it comes to Cincinnati

1551
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 13: from University of South Carolina, where he spent twenty twenty

1552
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 13: five as an assistant quarterback coach. Previously before that, he

1553
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 13: was on the coaching staff at the University of Texas.

1554
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 13: So that gives mister Zach Taylor what twenty five to

1555
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 13: twenty six assistants. Jeez, no wonder the cheap Like I say,

1556
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 13: either I don't know if they're doubling up in office

1557
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 13: space or that's the reason why that they're doing the

1558
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 13: renovations is to add more space down at the pay

1559
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 13: Course Stadium.

1560
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: Remarkable the communications you had. You can talk to people

1561
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: anytime anywhere. Thank you, Thank you, mister Brown.

1562
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 13: Speaking of the NFL, they're going to at the I

1563
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 13: guess the opening weekend on that Wednesday or Thursday to

1564
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 13: open up the season actually is going to be opening

1565
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 13: up in Melbourne, Australia, who as the forty nine Ers

1566
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 13: and Rams will be playing down under.

1567
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:03,839
Speaker 1: Percy.

1568
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 13: College football, the Big Ten circulating an internal document that

1569
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 13: lays out what a twenty fourteen college football playoff would

1570
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 13: look like. One of the one of the things is

1571
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 13: they would eliminate conference championship games. Yeah, I saw that

1572
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 13: you would play the Big Ten, Big twelve. Those games

1573
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 13: would go away. But you're talking about a lot of

1574
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 13: green salad salvation there, So I don't know it was.

1575
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 13: The document obtained by ESPN includes a few other things,

1576
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 13: but you know, I don't know.

1577
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean, college sports, I'm not sure.

1578
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 13: I'm not sure that elimination of I mean, well, if

1579
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 13: they go, if they go to that many, they're going

1580
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 13: to have to eliminate something because you know they're going

1581
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 13: to be playing into July and then they have about

1582
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 13: two weeks off and in back to spring practice, so

1583
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,839
Speaker 13: you know you're gonna play these kids like crazy.

1584
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, we'll see what happened.

1585
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: College sports has changed so much saying oh, as you

1586
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: well know, I'm kidding, not for the better, I don't think.

1587
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, couldn't buy a kid a McDonald's Hamburger ten years ago,

1588
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 13: and now now he's owning a franchise.

1589
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 1: That's crazy. The let's see hockey e chl action tonight.

1590
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Busy weekend for the Cyclones.

1591
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 13: They host Aledo tonight, They're at Toledo tomorrow, then back

1592
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 13: home Sunday against the Indy Fuel College Hockey twentieth rated

1593
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 13: Miami RedHawks are at third ranked at North Carolina tonight

1594
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 13: or North Dakota excuse me tonight and tomorrow.

1595
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: Let's see racing.

1596
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 13: Let's see Kyle Busch Chase Briscoe are on the front

1597
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 13: row for the sixty eighth running of the Great American

1598
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 13: Race Sunday, the Daytona.

1599
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Five hundred, and you'll be watching that. I know. Don't

1600
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: even call me after two point thirty on Sunday. I

1601
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: will be unavailable. I had a neighbor once that he

1602
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: was a big NASCAR guy, I mean racing car racing

1603
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: in general. He would listen to it on the radio,

1604
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: and I thought, how you can get a feel for

1605
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: it on the radio.

1606
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 13: They do a great job on MRN and PRN, and

1607
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 13: I mean they do a wonderful job of going from

1608
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 13: one guy to the other Indianapolis five on the radio network.

1609
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 13: There it is flawless what they do.

1610
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: I just got things to say.

1611
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:23,520
Speaker 13: God bless our troops, God bless America, and gentlemen.

1612
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Start there. You go, right there, Mike, guess that's all though,

1613
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: you gotta say. That's right. Winter Olympics stay seven.

1614
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 13: It is underway, and let's see the US women's hockey

1615
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,759
Speaker 13: team get ready to take on host Italy in about

1616
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 13: fifteen to twenty minutes in the quarterfinals. The US men

1617
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 13: ice hockey team will play Denmark tomorrow at three.

1618
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: If I score five hundred goals against them.

1619
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 13: The USA has fourteen total gold total total medals now

1620
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 13: four gold so far. Men's curling Canada beat the US

1621
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 13: today six to three. So and then you got action

1622
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 13: all all over the place on you got ice dancing,

1623
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 13: you got all over it. You got it all all

1624
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 13: going today, tonight, tomorrow and on Sunday and then what

1625
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 13: next week? Ye, they close them out.

1626
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Take money for NBC.

1627
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 13: Though, Amen to that, Amen to that money. Now it

1628
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 13: looks like they're getting some good ratings. As long as

1629
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 13: the Americans do well, everybody's watching.

1630
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: So there you go, there you go. So I don't know,

1631
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: what are your what are yours? You like watching the Olympics.

1632
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: I do more of the Summer Games than the Winter Games.

1633
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: I do like watching that now I forget the name

1634
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: of it. Or they go like ninety miles an hour

1635
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 1: around the all speed skating.

1636
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 13: No, they're in like a sled type thing, bob slip

1637
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 13: lose yeah, yeah, the lose thing. Yeah, when you're laying

1638
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 13: down and you have to I don't think I could

1639
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 13: do that because I'm too fat. I couldn't see where

1640
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 13: I'm going to. Maybe you could, You could do it, Mike,

1641
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 13: but I don't. I don't think I would be bouncing

1642
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,560
Speaker 13: off that ice wall. That wouldn't feel good. I'd be

1643
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 13: too scared.

1644
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 5: I'd have to lose.

1645
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 13: I'd have to lose a few pounds to be a

1646
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 13: loge man. Well, you can always watch it. Well, that's true,

1647
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 13: but it's it's it's remarkable and it's heartbreaking to see.

1648
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 15: Uh.

1649
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 13: You know some of these athletes that have been training for,

1650
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 13: you know, since the last Olympics in that and all

1651
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 13: of a sudden, you know, they like like the women

1652
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 13: well the women's downhill and the men's downhill.

1653
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean they miss a gate or something and that's it.

1654
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, And then and then they think, well, what is

1655
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 13: this twenty twenty five, Well we'll think about the.

1656
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: Next one and go from there. So it's that's all

1657
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: you can know. But I tell you what.

1658
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 13: Skiing down one of those hills and we saw Mike

1659
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 13: McConnell and I Coca Cola sent Mike mcconnalll and I

1660
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 13: over to do his show in Albertville, France in ninety

1661
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 13: two in the Winter Games, we got to see ski

1662
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 13: jumping live.

1663
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: Whoa and TV does not do that justice.

1664
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 13: I was gonna say, I mean those guys, those guys went,

1665
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 13: they were up, but there's a smaller run and in

1666
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 13: a higher one, and these guys are just practicing on

1667
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 13: the higher one, right, And I mean I thought this

1668
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 13: guy was gonna come over our head and and end

1669
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 13: up in Lachland. I mean it's and I mean they

1670
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 13: hit with such force on that ice and then just

1671
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 13: come right I mean right by you, yep, throwing snow

1672
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 13: all over the place.

1673
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, I don't know, I just I don't know.

1674
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: What about the woman skier? Of course your name escapes

1675
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,440
Speaker 1: me now, Lindsey Vaughan. Yes, what a heartbreak.

1676
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 13: That is came in and hurt her knee and then

1677
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 13: thinking well okay, and then she's out there for thirteen

1678
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 13: seconds and it's over with and she but they said,

1679
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 13: she said today, I saw an article today. Hey you

1680
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 13: know what, there's always one more run. So's she's forty one.

1681
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

1682
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: Hey man, I love when that happened. You know, get

1683
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: us old folks in there.

1684
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 5: That's what they ought to do.

1685
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Really, you know, Uh yeah, I mean they train like

1686
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: crazy and then something like that happens. Like I said,

1687
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking. Amen.

1688
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 13: So I don't know, it's just it's I think it's

1689
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 13: exciting to watch some of these sports and some of

1690
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 13: the different sports that you don't get to see too much.

1691
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Yep.

1692
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 13: You know that, you know, because I mean like Nick

1693
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 13: Gepper is coming up with his events and a few

1694
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 13: other people that are from around the Tri State, and uh,

1695
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 13: you know, I mean just to see these these guys

1696
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 13: on these snowboards and stuff fly up and down and

1697
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 13: do the flips and the and the gyrations, and you know,

1698
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 13: it's I mean, if I did that, I'll probably land

1699
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 13: right on my head. But these guys, you know, they're

1700
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 13: up in the air and they're you know they're they're

1701
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 13: they're you know, crossing their legs doing the X and

1702
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 13: then holding holding the board, and I'm thinking, huh.

1703
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: Huh, now you can do that, not me. I went

1704
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: skiing one time years ago where my daughter talked me

1705
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: into going to Perfect North with her and her friend.

1706
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: And there's like a one hour kind of and I've

1707
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: never been skiing before, like a one hour instructional thing. Yeah,

1708
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: and she thought she'd be funny and put us on

1709
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: the intermediate peak where you know, I should have stayed

1710
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: with the little short hill that I had. I went

1711
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 1: down there in a ball and at the very bottom

1712
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: it hurt, like I can imagine. I never did it.

1713
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I can imagine. Yeah, I don't know I.

1714
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 5: Could.

1715
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't ski.

1716
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 13: I just I'd be scared of them to break in

1717
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 13: my leg, ripping your knee or worse. Yeah, I mean,

1718
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 13: you know those guys, those people are going eighty ninety

1719
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 13: miles an hour down down a hill of ice, and

1720
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 13: all they got is a fence to catch him.

1721
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: And you're like, you know, I know the guy was

1722
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: up in the air the other day. He missed a hill.

1723
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 13: I forget what country's from, and he missed a hill

1724
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 13: and went up in the air and one ski went

1725
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 13: one way, one went the other, and you're thinking he's

1726
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 13: going to end up in uh know, in left field

1727
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 13: or something, and it was it was scary, but they

1728
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 13: do it.

1729
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: It's you know, it just amazes me. I think you

1730
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 1: said it before, maybe I missed it. How are we

1731
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: doing in the medals? I mean, we're we in the

1732
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: ball game?

1733
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 13: Or oh yeah, you know, yeah we got they got

1734
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 13: fourteen total right now and including four gold. They'll get

1735
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 13: a few more goal here and there, they'll they'll be

1736
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 13: they'll be among the tops Norway and Italy or leading

1737
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 13: away with I think they both got eighteen, yeah total,

1738
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 13: but I think that, you know, one when it all

1739
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 13: comes down to it, the US will have.

1740
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: More than anybody. We shall see. We can only hope. Amen, Mike, Yes, sir,

1741
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: we are we fair, We got it.

1742
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 13: We got a couple of mom though, I don't know,

1743
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 13: but it's just, uh, you know, it's really it's really something.

1744
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 13: And then you know, and then talking about the Miami

1745
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 13: RedHawks for a minute, Uh, I mean, what's it's remarkable

1746
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 13: up there?

1747
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: What's going on in Oxford?

1748
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 13: And the fact is, I mean they're twenty four and oh,

1749
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 13: probably going to be twenty five and oh after tonight.

1750
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: Who would have you know? The women's team, the women's

1751
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: team is uh uh in.

1752
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 13: The RedHawks are twenty and four, eleven and oh in

1753
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 13: the MAC and the baseball team just got picked to

1754
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 13: win the entire Mid American Conference regular season and the tournament.

1755
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 13: So the baseball team's going to be strong up there

1756
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,480
Speaker 13: at Miami and they they and college baseball starts today.

1757
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 1: That's what she said before.

1758
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,879
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, what is it, February unlucky, February

1759
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 13: the thirteenth, and they're playing bait.

1760
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: Of course they can play bait. They're playing baseball down south.

1761
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 13: They're not playing it here, which I get like, but

1762
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, they'd be hitting into snow piles.

1763
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: But you know, for that school up there, well, now,

1764
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: back in the day, way back in the day, they

1765
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,559
Speaker 1: they they were pretty good in football.

1766
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 13: We're going away, I think didn't coach there one more? Yeah, yeah,

1767
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 13: they got Sean mcvain's the been there. I mean, there's been.

1768
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 13: I mean, that's the cradle of coaches. I mean, those guys.

1769
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 13: You know, it's just it's it's famous for that, and

1770
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 13: the football has been good. The football's coming back under

1771
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 13: Chuck Martin with they've been to a bowl game here

1772
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 13: now for the past few years. And then the basketball

1773
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 13: team's coming around with Travis Steele. So see what happened.

1774
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,799
Speaker 13: We shall see love and honor out there in Oxford.

1775
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 13: Thank you so much, SAG Mike, and honor of everybody

1776
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 13: having a great weekend. We leave you with the immortal

1777
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 13: words of the st and Happy Valentine's Day. We leave

1778
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 13: you with the immortal words of the Stood report.

1779
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 5: See the Highway Patrol election again next week. Until then,

1780
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 5: remember leave your blood at the Red Cross, not on

1781
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 5: the Highway. This is Roderick Croffin saying, see you next week.

1782
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: There you go, Hey, we're out here. I will be

1783
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: back tomorrow at nine for Saturday Midday Mike Allen's seven

1784
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: WLW