WEBVTT - 1/12/2026 (HOUR 2) 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.920 Our two Nobs starts now with Luppe Fiasco's The Show 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:09.360 Goes On. This song was playing to highlights the next 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.239 morning after the Packers beat the Steelers in Super Bowl 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:17.160 forty five on ESPN Sports Center. Now vividly you remember 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:18.640 those moments. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.760 I'm impressed by that. I mean, I remember a lot 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.320 of weird stuff, but I remember that one, Billy. Fifteen 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.280 years is how long you'll that memory last? 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.200 Too long? Memory for Chicago Bears fans will last probably 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.479 a lifetime from Saturday night, and the Packers allowed it 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.360 all to happen as they blow a twenty one to 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:40.280 three halftime lead and lose thirty one to twenty seven 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:46.600 in the wildcard round to the hated and frankly didn't 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.000 really feel like all that feared Chicago Bears going into 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.920 Saturday night, and probably rightfully so. If you look at 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.880 the first half played out, the Packers dominate the line 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.640 of scrimmage for the entire first half, They dominate the 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.720 football game in the first half. It feels like they're 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.120 winning the coaching edge in the first half, and then 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.480 all of what seemingly happened in twenty twenty five happened 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.880 in the second half. And the Bears did what they've 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.240 done all of twenty twenty five, come back in improbable fashion. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.400 The Packers did what they did a lot of times 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.480 in twenty twenty five, five times of which blowing leads 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.319 of nine plus points and leads in the second half 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.920 of nine plus points to ultimately lose the game. And 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.399 in the midst of it, Arman, We're gonna answer a lot, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.319 We're gonna read a lot of reaction here about how 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.200 we feel about the coach. I want to know quickly 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.760 and also want to know for people how you feel 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:42.160 about the quarterback after Saturday night, because after watching three 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.080 hundred and twenty three yards of Jordan Love and four scores, 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.720 and I get it like a fifty three percent completion 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.760 percentage and I just throw three balls right over into 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.560 the stands to end the first half. So there's a 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.240 couple in there. But again, you can slice it. However, 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.440 you want two intentional groundings when I believe he had 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.640 one in his career leading up to that point. So 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.960 a mixed bag, no doubt about it. Yeah, Jordan is 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:14.760 not uh free of blame in what happened on Saturday night, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.120 far from it. Like he he was also quarterbacking the 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.760 four drives that have asked one first down in the 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.760 third quarter. Totally get it. I walked out of Saturday 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:30.000 night being more confident than ever in Jordan Love's ability 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.240 as a starting quarterback in the NFL to help you 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.200 win playoff game. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:34.720 No doubt. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.560 He's no doubt he can. He can play well, he 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:37.239 can play great. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:38.880 He can put the ball where he wants to when 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.480 he's when his situation's right, when he's healthy. And that's 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.360 what he did again on Saturday night. Now, grant, yes, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.120 the numbers are really good. It was a lot of 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.600 the work was in the first half, but he also 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.320 had a very important fourth quarter drive. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.280 I thought he actually had multiple three fourth quarter drives 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.519 where they're in position now they miss a field goal, 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.680 one result of they score a touchdown, and then the 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.799 third one is the is the drive in which they're 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.120 not they're not close enough. I get that. Also, if 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.960 Jayden Reid catches the damn football, it's helped. It's but again, 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.440 that was twenty twenty five, so like that is gonna 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.240 be adversity there. I think two or three drops on 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.640 that final drive. Uh, but I thought that was the 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.800 first time you saw Jordan actually show some level of 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:27.080 frustration with a drop when he turns around and after 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.760 that ball bounces off Jayden Reid tam. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.200 Because he knew he had that one, because he knew 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.200 it was a good It was a really good game 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:33.799 for Jordan Love. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.600 It's one we're gonna look back ball the Romeo Dobs. Yes, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:37.880 it's one of the sickest grabs. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.760 You're gonna be able to find, great catch amazingsolute seed 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.000 and in the. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.480 Face of a in the face of the pressure that 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.360 has been smacking you in the second half when you 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:55.440 needed at the moment. But his fourth quarter was incredibly impressive. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:00.720 But again, why he's not free of any blame here. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.160 He absolutely gets a decent amount of it being the 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.600 quarterback of it. But I still go into last night 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.320 believing now more than ever he's a guy you can 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:13.120 win because of absolutely, not just with absolutely. I felt 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.320 confident he was a guy you can win with. I 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.159 feel good rolling forward He's gonna win you more playoff games. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:25.159 He and this is also the morning after watching Justin Herbert, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.560 who has been a guy in the same draft class, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.159 taking a little bit ahead. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.479 Of Jordan Loves. No comparison paid at ahead of Jordan Love. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.880 Yeah, I mean his playoff game last year on the 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.960 road in Houston. Again maybe best defensive football. I think 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.600 he throws four picks. He threw three picks all year 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.599 long through four of them in the playoffs, and last 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.839 night throws scores three points and again they're starting offensive 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.279 lineman out, they have the two offensive tackles out, but 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.279 it's a playoff game on the road to seven situation. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.760 They put up three points. So again I walk out 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:05.200 of feeling really good about everything. Jordan Love related more 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.200 than ever saying what are you gonna do to be 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.000 able to maximize this? Because it does feel like it is. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.279 He is a very very good player. And continuing to 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.440 a sen and I thought Saturday night was a phenomenal 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.039 piece of Jordan Love's career art. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.120 And speaking of pieces, the evidence is there that the 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.160 pieces are there for offensive success. Jordan Love's the biggest 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.760 part of that. His weapons are there. He was getting 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.880 them the ball most of the night. The biggest problem 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.640 was the fact that he didn't wasn't able to sustain 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.640 drives in the third quarter. That was the biggest issue 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.640 in the game last night offensively, And I guess that's 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.000 partly on him, but he was constantly and disadvantageous down 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.520 in distance. 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.440 Could he have handled pressure better? Maybe? 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.000 Could any player have played better at any time? Yes, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.040 I mean you could always say Jordan Love played better. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.160 You could always do that. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:50.920 And when we and we. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.839 Put so much result on the result on the quarterback 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.560 whenever the team doesn't win, they're always always gonna look 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.599 first at what the quarterback not do, which is a 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.440 fair thing to do because it's the most important position 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.560 on the field. But he clearly played well. He had 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.280 one of his best games. It's gonna be one of those, 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.200 Billy when we look back at his playoff numbers one day, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.520 we're gonna say, man, those look be healingly thought, because 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.040 you're gonna naturally forget about a game that he lost. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.280 But he had a really good game. Could you have 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.680 been better than the third quarter? Yes? Would that be 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.760 a high standard to ask any quarterback to do? Yes? Yes. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.960 I saw Adam Ranks say empty calories a ridiculous notion. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.919 I mean, he was producing yards, producing points, doing everything 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.480 he could for this team. The failures of the offense 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.880 in the third quarter, you could say, are partly on him. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.600 Of course, as the quarterback, but they're partly on multiple factors. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.000 The protection didn't adjust to the pressure. I thought Dennis 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.280 Allen gave You've got to run the ball better. Maybe 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.159 if you're running not running well in first down, you 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.480 can't keep giving him runs on first down. I mean, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.440 that was the one time I really thought, you know, 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.320 Matt Lafleur likes to take shots on running downs, why 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:55.160 not do it right there. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:56.200 I was a little surprised. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.520 But even when the avalanche was rolling down on this team, 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.800 the guy that was bringing him back and steadying the 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.560 drive wasn't the running game. It wasn't the offensive line. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.640 It was Jordan Love in the fourth quarter, putting him 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.560 in position to come back to try and sustain that 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.920 lead win. Golden had a great catchup run on that one. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.360 Should have been a seminal moment in Matthew Golden's career. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.960 Maybe it still will be, But I think we don't 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:21.840 remember very much with losses. You know, the critics of 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.920 Jordan Love, I think Billy and after a game like 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.520 that are always the ones that are these nebulous kind 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.840 of uh digs that don't you know he didn't have 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.760 the look in his eye or did the team really 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.320 believe in stuff that doesn't really mean anything in reality. Clearly, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.720 if you're gonna what could more have been another touchdown? Sure, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.720 if you're gonna say a guy has to throw five 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.560 touchdowns a game in the playoff first team to win, 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.920 that's a pretty high standard to keep. He might have 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.720 had one of the best games of any quarterback in 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.600 the playoffs so far not named Matt Staff or not 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.040 named you know, when Caleb obviously did the thing his 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.440 thing when he needed to. He didn't turn the ball 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.240 over either, Billy, it'd be one thing if he had 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.480 four touchdowns with three picks. You know, we've seen the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.040 Bret Faire games like that before. The number one thing 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.160 we kept saying is he can turn over against the Bears. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.560 Well, he didn't do it. Yes, the intentional. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.520 Groundings were obviously not ideal, right, but he did not 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.560 turn the ball over. Pretty tough for me to look 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.120 at a guy's game like that and sit there and 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:15.120 say he was the problem. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.240 Going back in the one intentional grounding again, totally get 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.360 why they call it ball hits alignment. That's an immediate foul. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:26.440 But Chris Brooks is coming out on a route right 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.600 behind him, like I mean, he is right behind the lineman, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.400 so that to me felt like a little bit of 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.600 bad fortune. The other one and actually the grounding call 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.720 that he doesn't commit might be the best one where 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.319 he outlets the ball to Canard. We find out a 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.080 little bit more yesterday that you know, obviously he's an 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.200 eligible player and he's out there for a reason, but 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.199 it's it's a screen the other side. They had to 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.520 abort it, and he was the fail safe because you 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.040 can't ground the ball there he's in the end zone. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.959 That's two points and ball. So again I come out 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.400 of the game extremely confident in Jordan Love rolling forward 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.280 and and that too. And you also mentioned Matthew Golden 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.679 one more here before we start getting the calls. Uh, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:17.720 that's almost more damning on the Matt Lafleur question. Yeah, 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.120 I hear what you're saying. Right, So this was there, 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.760 but we all watched all training camp, all first five 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.640 six weeks of the year. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.160 He was still there right there, and it Wigs isn't 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.400 as healthy. He's not getting those snaps. Maybe you know 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.080 bow Melton's playing bow obviously, right, of course. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.880 I mean, good lord, you know of sixteen's in the game, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.599 but they're not scoring that touchdown at the end of 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.839 the game, all your weapons, bou Melton might have done that. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.760 Bou Melton totally might have took that screen, broke three tackles, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.640 juked the guy into the end zone. I don't know. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:53.720 Might have happened. Eight seven seven seven. Luis is in Texas. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.600 He's first up at eight seven seven seven nine four 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.320 one nine seven three. Louis Lewis, Lewis, that one stunk 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.640 on Saturday night. Lewis Is in Texas. Hi, Lewis. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.079 As I unfortunately I am. I am a Bears fan, unfortunately, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.040 but welcome to how we felt the past forty years. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:12.360 Guys. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:16.800 So I know it sucks, but you know, I heard 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.040 all this this coming about Jordan Love Listen, Jordan Loves 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.880 to me played a phenomenal game, if anything, to what 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.760 I saw, especially in the last quarter. I've seen players 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.440 that looked like they were ready to go home, and 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:33.120 they had their reservations at the steakhouse in Chicago already 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.800 ready on the packer's sideline. And I think that was 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.680 a big problem. You know, Chicago is the opposite of 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.120 you guys. You guys start hot, and you guys kind 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.520 of wing off at the end. We get hot in 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.200 the third fourth quarters, and they knew that coming in. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.360 Like you guys stated before, this is the third game. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.800 It's been tight all three games. I mean, even it's 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.320 the last year, the last two games there. I mean, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.480 it's it's been a tight game, and it seems like 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.720 they gave up. Obviously good for us, but it seems 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.320 like they didn't have that same driver. 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.640 Motivating Lewis, How did you feel at halftime? How did 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.720 you feel confidence level as a Bears fan at halftime? 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.360 Listen, I'm as honest as I can be. I was upset. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.800 I couldn't believe it. To me, it seemed like they 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:21.840 were completely unprepared. But I watched the game because I 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.960 knew how these Bears this year have played. For some reason, 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.720 in the late third quarter, fourth quarter, they are on fire. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.160 And like I said, I think it's the tale of 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.040 two quarters, but I mean the half, but the tale 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.760 of two I mean, I think we're the same team, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.800 but in opposite Well, yeah. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.040 Totally in the in the two halves, no doubt about it. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.280 And even the tail of two quarters. In the second half. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.880 I mean it's twenty five points in the fourth quarter. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.800 It's twenty five points in the fourth quarter. Crazy, It 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.079 wasn't even And Lewis, thank you for the call. Enjoy 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.920 the hate listens. That's gotta feel so. But he's he's 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.560 absolutely right, very much right. And I also think this 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.560 is the other part of it. In the fourth quarter. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.600 Twenty five points in the fourth quarter, crazy, the third 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.040 quarter that we're all still focusing on and harping on offensively, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.080 doesn't damn you. You'll lose the set, You'll lose the 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.880 third quarter. Six nothing, I hear you, I mean it. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.480 It is all still there in the fourth quarter. And 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.800 I think a lot of Packers fans saw a lot 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:25.040 of what Lewis saw was a incredible confidence on the 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.720 Bears side and something you said in the first hour, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.000 which I think is the cleanest statement of it. Once 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.320 both sidelines thought they could see that end result happening 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:37.520 and neither was gonna stop it. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.079 And there's a lot to be said for that when 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.840 you start to believe in your team and believe in 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.720 their ability to do that and that, and that's exactly 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.959 what Lewis said, and he's absolutely right. It's like you 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.360 you're obviously gonna be frustrated no matter what when your 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.360 team's down twenty one three a half time. But there's 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.440 a belief for the Bears fans, and I would assume 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.080 now the team obviously that they always had the ability 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.080 to come back, and you start to expect it. And 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.600 I expected it. I mean, Billy, last week we talked 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.360 about how this game was gonna go. We were absolutely right. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.480 I said, I had zero issue concerned about us getting 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.079 out to a lead. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.320 I said, we're gonna be leading this team. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.280 I said, it doesn't have to be close, doesn't know, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.000 And we were and it kind of wasn't. But it 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.600 wasn't a blowout enough, I guess because you can't assume 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.240 twenty five points in a quarter. I mean, that's one 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:15.920 hundred points a game if you can do the math, right, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.680 Am I wrong? Hold, that's twenty five points a quarter. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.360 You here's score a hundred points a game. Okay, ridiculous, right, obviously, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.840 totally absurd. But the reality is we kind of predicted 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.640 that that could happen, that that might happen, and it 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.240 was happening. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.679 Do you want a worse step? So frustrating four, of course, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.320 because I mean, like they just keep scrolling through here. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.760 The Packers are the first team since the merger. When 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.600 I hear for since the merger, I don't even want 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.480 to deal with it. When I hear any stat preface 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.120 was since the merger, I already know I'm in for 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.880 a hell. Packers are the first team since the merger 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.960 to lose three games when leading by ten points in 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.400 the final five minutes of a game, including player Well, 0:13:55.480 --> 0:14:02.600 it's ridiculous, and that's probably since nineteen seventy teams when 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.600 leading by ten plus points in the final five minutes 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.400 according to this stat going into the year ninety seventy, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.199 Packers had been three hundred and six, three hundred and 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:18.040 six and one. Packers were three hundred and six and one. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.240 They're now six and three. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.880 Just the pain that you feel when you when you 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.280 see it happening again, a number like that, a result 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:31.520 like that that is so unbelievably ridiculous and unlikely and 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:37.680 rare and almost unreal to believe it could happen, and 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.880 then it happens again. So as you see it happening, 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:40.920 it's just unfathomable. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.120 Heaven again and again and again. And that's what that's 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.600 the doubt they put into you. And the three hundred 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.160 and six and one. We all know what the one 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.280 was the one, So so then a new ask results. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:58.560 So again I just take the fingernail, get real close 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.680 to the edge of that scap, carve in a little 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.880 bit deeper. You watch them in the Seattle twenty fourteen 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.480 Conference championship game three times this year. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.760 It's just it is happens that when you put it 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.280 like that, it just becomes even that more unbelievable. It 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.120 is beyond the realm of any It's senseless that it 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.480 could happen to you this many times, and you ask yourself, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.160 what are we doing wrong? Are we are we putting 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.240 our shoes on wrong or something that it could happen 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.000 to us this many times. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.120 Jordan Love is accordible to. According to ESPN research, Jordan 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.000 Love is now the third player in NFL history. I 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.480 throw four touchdown passes not throw an interception in a 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.640 playoff loss. Alex Smith with the Chiefs in twenty thirteen 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:47.720 when they lost to the Colts on the road. I 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.680 believe they had a twenty four to seven lead in 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.840 that game, potentially twenty eight to seven, forty five thirty 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:59.280 eight incredible game. Andrew Luck special. I remember that thing 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:03.360 twenty one Divisional round at Kansas City for one Josh 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.600 Allen in the game that ultimately changes the way we 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.359 play overtime in football because it was so unfair everybody 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.040 that Josh Allen didn't get the ball. Again, let's go 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.040 to Andy and graft In at eight seven seven seven 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.160 nine four one nine three. After all those sweet stats, Hi, Andy. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:22.800 Hey guys, good morning. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.480 I think you're also forgetting a major stat that were 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.040 the first team in NFL history to lose three games 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.680 in which we didn't punt. So there's another one. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:31.040 Yep. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.000 I think that before you even look at any of 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.800 our players. I think that from the top down, this 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.880 is an organizational failure. I think at policy to make 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.640 this black and white with I don't like a lame 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.280 duck coach, Well, you don't account for extenuating circumstances, because 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.400 I can, I can justify someone saying I don't believe. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.560 Matt Lafleur should be fired. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.720 Well, now with that policy making that blank statement of 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.000 he doesn't like a lame duck coach, only avenue then 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.040 is to extend them. And there's no way anybody associated 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.560 with the Packers organization or the fan base can look 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.800 at Saturday Night and say that we should reward that 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:17.600 head coach with an extension, right yep, And I undert sorry, I. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.040 Want I want to let you continue there, because I 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.040 thought that point was phenomenal. And the other thing is, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.320 I don't know if intended or unintended, they realized the 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.239 ramifications of how much that statement would get brought up 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.560 and would be a backdrop narrative of the entire twenty 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.360 twenty five season. Sorry, go ahead, one. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.639 And I think you could also look at Brian Gudakunz 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.080 because I understand that you made a whale of a 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.119 trade to get one of the best players in the 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.840 NFL here, but now you you had a defensive roster 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.040 that got exposed to the point where I don't know 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.800 who you bring back. And and furthermore, this whole talk 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.600 of Jeff Hasley being one of the hottest names. Those 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.199 stats that you just brought up of nine point leads 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:07.520 given up, that's one hundred percent responsibility of the defense, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.920 and Saturday Night was more than evident of Jeff Haflee 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.359 is great interviewer because his press conferences are some of 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:20.240 the best things that I listened to but twenty five 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.960 points in the fourth quarter to your division rival when 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.879 when there was no way in hell you should have 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.000 lost that game. That is more of an interview than 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.520 because you can look back since Denver when you had 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.600 a nine point lead. Okay, you choke away that game 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.480 against Denver, then you choke away at the Bears game, 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.119 and then you give up three hundred yards in rushing 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.760 to the Baltimore Ravens on national TV. Like what since 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.879 Michael Parsons went down, your defense became the worst in 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.200 the NFL. And I'm gonna sit here and listen to, Oh, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.679 this guy's the hottest name in coaching, Give. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:58.120 Give me a break. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.760 Because you look at Joe Berry stats. The year Joe 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:06.240 Barry got fired without Micah Parsons, his defense was better 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.159 than Jeff Hafley's defense even with MICHAEH Parsons on the field. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.960 So I understand how the whole Green Bay Packer fan 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.359 base feels about Joe Berry. Well, this performance this year 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.639 as a whole is not better than that. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.320 No, You're you're not wrong on that as well. Andy. 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.679 And the other thing about the Joe Berry one is 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.280 it just became such a catchphrase to say, fire the 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.360 coach and fire Halfley, and he's holding these guys back. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.480 That defense that you mentioned that Goody has assembled is 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.640 a bunch of really good players. How many of them 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.280 are great blue chip players? Now? Are a couple of 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.560 them out? I think devant say why it is? But 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.720 to your point otherwise, most of those guys are on 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.600 the field and they're they're they're right there, and it 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.480 hasn't been elevated or subtracted from pretty much just stayed 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:54.960 the same way. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.400 Andy really appreciate the call man, thank you. You feel 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.399 the frustration, and he's got a point. I mean, Halfley, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.800 we'll have five interviews, all right, I think is the number, 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.119 and I've then probably get those same questions in all 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.919 the interviews, and I'm sure lev Qui answers yea. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.439