1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: With Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's news radio boy. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Again. I remind you if you have tuned in to 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: listen to the Red Sox game, this is not the place. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: My name's Dan Ray and this is Nightside, and we 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: will be here all the way until midnight, so stick 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: with us. You have the opportunity here on Nightside always 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: to listen to the show while you watch a football game, 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: or a baseball game, or anything simple as that. Rob 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Brooks is back there. Rob, you of all the TVs 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: turned off in the control room, you just focused the attention. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: I know that Rob. Rob is the best producer that 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: anyone could possibly wish for. During the first hour, Rob 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: can relax a little bit because we don't take any 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: phone calls. However, during the second and third and fourth hour, 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: that is when we have great guests, interesting topics, mix 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: in some callers, just stir and add water and stir. 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Simple as that. 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: Look. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: My name's Dan raym the host of Nightside, and we 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: have four different guests. That's what we do in the 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: nine o'clock hours. So, without any further ado, I'm going 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: to introduce you to Glenn Baker. Glenn is interested in 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: helping ex service personnel return to the real world, if 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: you will, and do it in a way in which 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: they are welcomed back. He himself served in the military. Glenn, 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: How are you, sir, Dan, Thank you for having me. 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: I'm doing very well. 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: So, so tell us about you have this program, combat 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: Boots to Campus Blues. I get it. Is it still 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: that difficult. I'm of a different generation for the folks 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: who have served more recently and those who are still 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: serving as they try to move back, you know, into 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: what we used to call the real world. What's it 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: like out there these days? 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: Well, Dan, my focus is a little bit different than that. 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's in that direction, but I'm actually helping 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 4: combat veterans that have been wounded to come back into 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: the real world. So we've we've we've made a deal 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: with a new company coming in out of France. It's 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: got next generation technology, developed a self balancing exoskeleton. And 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: uh so I'm a combat vet from thirty five years ago. 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 4: I can't believe it's been that long ago, Dan, But 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,559 Speaker 4: I'm also a country music artist. 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: So that I'm sure was that that had to be Iraq? 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: Well, it was Iraq it was a desert storm. Yeah, absolutely, 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: fire direction control for an eight inch artillery battery can't. 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: And you know, we were the we were the young 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 4: guys that back then, and now I'm the old guy. 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: I got a little gray in my hair. 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: I can't understand that. So go ahead and thank you 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: for your service. Oh you gotta get worth it. I mean, 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: that was one where no one knew for sure what 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: you were going to face once you once you're crossed 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: in from Kuwait. That was and of course the rocky 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: forces folded up like a like a cheap suit. It was. 58 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: It was overlot quicker than anyone could have hoped, but 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: it still was pretty nerve wracking. I'm sure for those 60 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: of you who are in the front lines. 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think that was the one war. If there 62 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: had to be a way to do it, that was 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: the way. 64 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: To do it. 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: And it was shock and awe. It was overwhelming. It 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: was you know, in and out, and it was over 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: with pretty quickly. I was in country about eight months, 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: but a lot of that was sitting around waiting to 69 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: deploy back out. So if you have to go that way, 70 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: that's the way to go. But you know, God's been 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: good to me and brought me back into country music. 72 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: About five years ago, I had a chance to after 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: writing a few songs, releasing a few singles, I did 74 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: a show with General Flynn a few years ago. We 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: were raising money for an organization that was putting an 76 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: extra skeleton on a paralyzed vet so he could walk again. 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: And when I saw his marine stand up out of 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: a wheelchair after being paralyzed seven years before and in Afghanistan, 79 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: it broke something inside me. I'll ever be the same, 80 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: I'll never recover, and I knew I needed to help. 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: So Dan I wrote a song, thinking that's all I 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: was gonna do, went to shoot the music video last 83 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: year fourteen months ago, found out that organization wasn't helping 84 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: vets much anymore, and God just kind of leaned in 85 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: and said, boy, this was your plan, You're going to 86 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: do it. And so we filmed a movie and we've 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 4: started a foundation and have just taken our first veteran 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: in July to New York and got him in a 89 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: clinical trial. Young man was in a clinic for fifteen 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: minutes and stood up and took his first steps, and 91 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: in three one hour sessions he took over three thousand 92 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: steps with the help of an extra skeleton. So my 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: mission is a little bit different, but not really. We're 94 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: helping these boys that can't walk, that take their power 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 4: has been taken, to stand up and walk again, and Dad, gumm, 96 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: it just to feel like men. You know, it may 97 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 4: not be politically correct, but when a man has his 98 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 4: wheels taken away from his legs, there's some emasculation that 99 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: takes place. And I witnessed this youngman stand up and 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 4: go walk over and hug his wife for the first 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: time in years. 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: So the foundation, the foundation is called Heroes to Heroes foundations. 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: Correct, The foundation is called Finish this Fight, Finish this freight, 104 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: Finish this Fight Foundation. So yeah, and that's what we're 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: doing with everything that I'm doing now musically, movie wise, 106 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: foundation wise, is we're bringing the exoskeleton world back into 107 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: the public eyes and we're funding these guys to be 108 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: able to get up and walk again. 109 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: Explain to us what the exoskeleton world is because the 110 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: materials that I that I was received tonight did not 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: focus on that. So I apologize to that, but tell 112 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: us what that means. 113 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: Brother, It is not your fault at all. I've had 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: three interviews today, So we're going one hundred miles an hour. 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: The exoskeleton is a wearable robot. This is technology been 116 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: in the US for about a decade. The older technology 117 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: that's been available required the upper body strength to be 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: able to manipulate canes for balance, so the robot walked, 119 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: but it didn't balance for them. Now here's where I 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: get aggravated. 121 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: Dan. 122 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: We've got over about ten thousand veterans that physically could 123 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: use the old technology, and in the last decade there's 124 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 4: been less than one hundred of these skeletons that have 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: been provided out of ten thousand. That's not acceptable to me. 126 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: Now this new technology, they don't have to have that 127 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: upper body strength any longer because this is self balancing. 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 4: There's no canes required. This robot balance is for the 129 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: patient and allows them to walk with their hands freely. 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: Being available, that brings that number up to close to 131 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: thirty thousand that could use this technology. So my mission 132 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: is over the course of the next eighteen months to 133 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: raise enough and awareness and money to be able to 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: put one hundred of these on our veterans in eighteen months. 135 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: That's more than the government's done in a decade. And 136 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 4: quite frankly, I want to embarrass our government so they'll 137 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: step up and do the right thing for our boys. 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: That sounds like a pretty good battle plan to me. 139 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: I like that, Glenn. So the folks can get in 140 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: touch with Finish the fight. I'm assuming it's a dot ORG. 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: Finish this fight. 142 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: Finish this fight. 143 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: Okay, finish this fight dot us US Okay. Yeah. The 144 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: movies there, the music there, the foundations there, the video 145 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: from this young man walking for the first time is there. 146 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: You can donate, you can buy a merchandise, you can 147 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: get involved. You can send me a message and say 148 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: I'm proud of you, or I don't like what you're doing. 149 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: I can't imagine anyone's going to send that second message, Glenn, 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: that's for sure, because unfortunately, as I think a lot 151 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: of us know, sometimes the government does not put veterans 152 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: at the top of their priority list. 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 154 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: They have a lot of other constituencies out there that 155 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: they're trying to take care of before veterans or and 156 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: particularly also before homeless veterans. 157 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: Right. 158 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm involved in a group called Hope for the Warriors, 159 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: So I'm very very familiar with the different groups who 160 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: are out there and there's there's a lot that needs 161 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: to be done for veterans and your group. It sounds 162 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: to me like it's doing something really special. So finish 163 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: this fight, dot us. I'm hoping some of my listeners 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: tonight will take some time and look around and check 165 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: it out and maybe even make a contribution to help 166 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: you finish this fight. 167 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that, Dan, And you know, with your 168 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: being involved with that foundation, this is grassroots. The government's 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: not going to do it until we step up and 170 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 4: do it and force them to. 171 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I saw you had a good rating from 172 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: Charity Navigator up too, by the way, which is which 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: is always very important so people can reinvest it that. 174 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: You know, when you get a raty a good rating 175 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: from Charity Navigator, that means this this particular charity, your 176 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: charity is in it for the right reason. So finish 177 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: this fight, dot us. Glenn Baker, pleasure, pleasure to make 178 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: your your acquaintance, and I'll be looking out for some 179 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: of your songs. You are still a recording artist and 180 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: we need to get we need We don't play music 181 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: here on Nightside, but some of our listeners might also 182 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: like to be able to check you out. What is 183 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: your your website of people? Do you have a personal 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: website that people could We could send people right now. 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: Everything I have is on Finish this fight now us. However, 186 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 4: I'm real easy to find. If you want to see 187 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: some cool music videos, just google Glenn with two ends 188 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 4: Glenn Baker Country music at a law pop up. Don't 189 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: use one though, Dan, because You're going to get an 190 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: Irish dude. And I'm way better looking than he is. 191 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: Okay, and shy too. 192 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: Really shy. Yeah, I'm not very big. 193 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: All right, Glenn, Thank you very much. Pleasure to meet 194 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: you tonight. Thank you so much, Glenn Baker. Ladies and gentlemen, 195 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: finish this fight dot us. We get back. We're going 196 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: to talk about something that those of us here in 197 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: New Zealand are particularly proud of, and that is then 198 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: New England covered bridges. We have a woman coming up. 199 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Her name is Kim Varney Chandler and she has written 200 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: a book about the covered bridges of New Hampshire. We 201 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: will talk about that with her in just a moment. 202 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 203 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: Well, those of us who live in New England have 204 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: a soft spot in our heart for many things that 205 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: seem to be just here in New England. And I'm 206 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: sure there are probably some other states around the country 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: that have a covered bridge or two, but I think 208 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: on a per capita basis, on a square mile basis, 209 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: New Hampshire has had more covered bridges than any state 210 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: in the world, any state in America for sure, with 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: us as Kim Varney Chandler, she's a un H graduate, 212 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: full time high school counselor who spent countless of hours, 213 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: countless hours researching and visiting the state's covered bridges. She 214 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: wrote a book about them called appropriately Enough Covered Bridges 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: of New Hampshire. Welcome Kim, Welcome to night. 216 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 6: Side, Thank you, thank you for having me. 217 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: So let's talk about covered bridges of New Hampshire. There 218 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: was a point in time, not so very long ago, 219 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: when there were a lot more than there are now. 220 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: But there's still quite a. 221 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 6: Few, yes there are. In fact, I'm still researching to 222 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 6: see how many we actually had, and right now I'm 223 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 6: up to about four hundred and seventy eight, but now 224 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 6: we have just over sixty. 225 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: Now. Most of these covered bridges were built before the 226 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: arrival of the automobile. 227 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 6: Correct yes, yes they were. 228 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Okay, well, what is there one that at this point 229 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: is still you know, you know, structure is still stable. 230 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: But it's the oldest. Is the one that you've identified 231 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: as the oldest covered bridge in New Hampshire. 232 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 6: The old this covered bridge in New Hampshire is the 233 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 6: haver Old Bath Bridge and that bridge was built in 234 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 6: eighteen twenty nine. 235 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: Now when you call it the Haveral Bath Bridge, is 236 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: that a bridge that connects New Hampshire to Bath, Maine? 237 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Per chance? 238 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 6: No, it connects to New Hampshire town Haveborl and Bath. 239 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? Uh? And why were so many covered 240 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: bridges built in New Hampshire because of the weather or 241 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: was it as a tourist attraction? How was it that 242 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: New Hampshire became the became home to so many covered bridges? 243 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Well? 244 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, new the whole, like you said, the whole New 245 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 6: England area was very rich with covered bridges. But I 246 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 6: have to tell you Pennsylvania has the most covered bridges. 247 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Still, they're a bigger they're a bigger state. I mean, 248 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have a more per acre or more 249 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: per capita, but we're not talking about Pennsylvania. We're talking 250 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: about if they'll live for your die state to go 251 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: ahead exactly. 252 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 6: Well, you know the reason that they built covers on 253 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 6: their their bridges. A wooden covered bridge, as we can see, 254 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 6: can last you know, one hundred to two hundred years 255 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 6: if it's taken care of properly. So it was important 256 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 6: for those bridge builders to cover the bridge's trust. And 257 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 6: that's those are the series of triangles on the side 258 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 6: of a bridge that that that carry the weight of 259 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 6: the bridge itself and also whatever is traveling over the bridge. 260 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 6: And so that's the real reason why covered bridges are 261 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 6: covered is to protect the bridges trust. 262 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: And you need you need bridges in New Hampshire because 263 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: it's the topography. If you want to get from point 264 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: A to point B and there's a river. What's the 265 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: longest covered bridge in New Hampshire. Again, I'm asking you questions. 266 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: I hope you know the answers to no one scripts 267 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: questions for me. 268 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 6: So, the longest covered bridge in New Hampshire is actually 269 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 6: it's over the Connecticut River and it goes and goes 270 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 6: across into Vermont. It's the Cornish Windsor Bridge and it's 271 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 6: four hundred and sixty feet long and it's the longest 272 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 6: wooden bridge in the United States and the longest two 273 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: span covered bridge in the world. 274 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm really glad I asked that question. Did I 275 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: have not yet read your book, So I want you 276 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: to know these are spontaneous questions and it's interesting. So 277 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: the book that you have actually describes and I'm sure 278 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: there are pictures of is it forty or more covered bridges? 279 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 6: There are sixty one covered bridges in the book. 280 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: In the book, Okay, so you got them all that 281 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: you know of at this point. If you find more, 282 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: you'll have a second edition. When did the book come out? 283 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: How recently has it? Did it hit the bookstores or 284 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: hit Amazon? 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? The book came out in the fall of twenty 286 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 6: twenty two, was published by Peter E. Randall Publisher in Portsmouth, 287 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 6: And really just began for me because I started driving 288 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 6: around and visiting all of the covered bridges and there 289 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 6: was no there was no definitive book with a really 290 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 6: deep history of each bridge. And so it didn't set 291 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 6: out to write a book. As you mentioned, I'm a 292 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: high school counselor, and I thought, well, I'll give it 293 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 6: a shot. 294 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, so this this, this is really a work 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: of love for your state and for a characteristic that 296 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: makes New Hampshire. Yeah, really, you know, typically it makes 297 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that make New Hampshire great, 298 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: but this is one of them. It's just as simple 299 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: as that. So how can people get the book as 300 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: it you said it was? It came out a few 301 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: years ago now as available through Amazon. What's what's the 302 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: easiest way through you directly? 303 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 304 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 5: It is. 305 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: It is available on Amazon. You can purchase it directly 306 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 6: from me at my website which is Covered Bridges and 307 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 6: h dot com. And most of the independent bookstores in 308 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 6: New Hampshire carry it, and some in Massachusetts carry it also. 309 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 6: I've been I've been surprised to know. So, yeah, if 310 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 6: you can support your local book book retailer, that's great. 311 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: Now having produced this book, which I'm sure has pictures 312 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: and the history of these sixty one covered bridges, are 313 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: there other journalistic activities or literary activities that you're undertaking 314 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: or is this going to be your contribution to the 315 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: world of literature. 316 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 317 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 6: So I've been researching the different bridge rights who built 318 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 6: the covered bridges. So I've done some articles on my 319 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 6: website about gentlemen like James Tasker Captain Charles Richardson Sandford 320 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 6: Granger and really taking a deep into who these men 321 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 6: were and what other things they built, where they lived, 322 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 6: who their families were. And I have a podcast as well. 323 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 6: I've interviewed some people that I've met along this research journey, 324 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 6: but right now I'm really taking a deep dive into 325 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 6: the lost covered bridges. So I'm trying to figure out 326 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 6: where there were bridges that no longer stand. And that's 327 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 6: a giant rabbit hole and I'm way down in it. 328 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: Well, good, good for you. It sounds interesting. Real last 329 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: question and I think I know the answer. But back 330 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: in the day, I'm assuming were these bridges built by 331 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: communities or were they built by people who had business 332 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: commerce and they needed that bridge. Who funded these bridges 333 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: back in the day. 334 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 6: That's an excellent question. Some of them were funded by communities. 335 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: So a town felt like they needed a bridge, they 336 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 6: wanted it to be a covered bridge. They would hire 337 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 6: either a local carpenter or maybe someone who built covered bridges. 338 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 6: Most of the Connecticut River covered bridges, though, were built 339 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 6: by people that came together and formed some type of 340 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 6: a business and they put their money together and then 341 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 6: they charged tolls to get their money back. 342 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so there was a little entrepreneurship going on 343 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 2: back in the day. And did they stop using tolls 344 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: once they had recaptured or recouped their money or did 345 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: they did they continue on and actually turn a bit 346 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: of a profit. 347 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 6: Some of them did stop, but some of them kept going. 348 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: The cornersh Winter Bridge was actually freed in the nineteen forties. 349 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 6: They had a big party to celebrate the last toll 350 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 6: taken on a Connecticut river bridge. 351 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: Well, look, the book is available again. Give the website 352 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: one more time, and then I'm going to have to 353 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: say good night because they got to make way for 354 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 2: a newscast. What's the best way they can either get it? 355 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: Get it either from Amazon or from you personally. 356 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, the website is Covered Bridges NH dot com. Okay, 357 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 6: and there's a links by anywhere else you would like. 358 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Sounds great. Kim really enjoyed the conversation. I learned a 359 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: lot about covered Bridges in a short period of time. 360 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 6: Thank you again, Thank you so much for having me. 361 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Good night, Welcome, You're welcome. When we get back right 362 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: after the news, we're going to talk about a rare 363 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: coin treasure hunt coming up next week right here in Boston. Uh. 364 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: This is there's going to be forty thousand dollars in 365 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: prizes and we're going to talk with Max Shimmel about 366 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: this treasure hunt and how you you might be able 367 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: to participate. Stay with us here on Nightside. 368 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio. 369 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, welcome back everyone, and there's going to be a 370 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: rare coin tre hunt in Boston from October seventh to 371 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: the eleventh. Pretty exciting stuff when you think about it. 372 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: A rear coin treasure hunt with us is Mark Schimmel. 373 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: He's with a company called Stax Bowers. He's the director 374 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: of their East Coast retail. Mark. To be honest with you, 375 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: I am unfamiliar with Stax Bowers, So first of all, 376 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: tell us about the company, then let's talk about the 377 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: treasure hunt. 378 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 5: Great, thank you, Dan, and thank you for having me 379 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 5: on tonight. 380 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Very well. 381 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 5: The statement you just made that you're unfamiliar with Stax 382 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: Bowers is something that we are trying to overcome, and 383 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 5: that's one of the main reasons that we are having 384 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 5: this treasure hunt. We are actually a ninety year old 385 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: rare coin firm where America's oldest and most accomplished rare 386 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: coin company selling the largest and most valuable coin collections 387 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: that have ever come to market. But we are new 388 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: to the Boston and New England area. We had one 389 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: store in New York, was only retail store for the 390 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: first ninety almost ninety years of our company's history, and 391 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: then we started expanding in Boston was one of our 392 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: new locations. So we want to introduce the Boston the 393 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: Bostonians to wear coin collecting and tell them about us 394 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: and have them learn about us. And this is one 395 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 5: of the ways we plan to do it. 396 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: So where are physically located in Boston? If someone wants 397 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: to stop by, I assume you have a store front. 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 5: Yes, we have a storefront. We're on State Street, but 399 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 5: we're actually right by Faniel Hall. It's twenty two Exchange Place, 400 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: which is right by Faniel Hall Quincy Market. If you 401 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 5: stand in the square and you look to the left, 402 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 5: you can see our awning. So we have a fantastic location. 403 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: We get everybody who comes to Boston to visit sees 404 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: our store and we're very happy to welcome them. 405 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: In a lot of foot traffic. Okay, So let's talk 406 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: about this treasure hunt. When you think about treasure hunt, 407 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 2: do you think about, oh, clues and all of that. 408 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: It sounds pretty exciting. 409 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 5: What's going on, Well, that's exactly what we're doing. So 410 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 5: picture this. Just picture that in twenty twenty five, Paul 411 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 5: Revere gets on his horse and he rides through the 412 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 5: streets of Boston and he says, the coins are coming, 413 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: the coins are coming, And that's basically the image we 414 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: want to generate in the Bostonians' minds. So what we're 415 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: going to be doing is it's going to take place 416 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: over five days starting October seventh through October eleventh, and 417 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: each day we're going to go to an iconic Boston location. 418 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 5: We're going to hide a certificate. We're going to post 419 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: clues on our Instagram accounts, both Stax Bowers and stax 420 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: Bower's retail. We have two Instagram accounts, and we're going 421 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: to post clues starting at ten o'clock in the morning. 422 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: We'll post a few clues during the day until somebody 423 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 5: finds the certificate. So the certificate is going to be 424 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 5: hiding there and then the person who finds the certificate 425 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 5: will be able to bring it to our store the 426 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 5: following week to claim their prize. 427 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so the certificate. I don't want to break any 428 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: rules here, and I certainly don't want to, but I 429 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: want to make sure people understand. So you'll pick five 430 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: locations five days. I guess it starts on Tuesday, if 431 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, right. 432 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 5: It starts on Tuesday, goes till Saturday. Saturday is the 433 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 5: grand prize. 434 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so Tuesday through Saturday. So you pick a location 435 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: and then people have no idea where that location is, 436 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: but you'll post some clues on your websites and so 437 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: we will. We'll get to that in a second. The 438 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: next question that I have is will the clues be 439 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: a little obfuscated or will they be really direct, like 440 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: you should check out pick you know, I'm just going 441 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: to pick something the Old North Church or whatever, you know? 442 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: Or will it be a clue that people will kind 443 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: of have to figure out. 444 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 5: If you know what I'm saying, more than you have 445 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 5: to figure out figure out more that you have to 446 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 5: figure out. But our Boston store manager, who is a 447 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 5: longtime Bostonian, family's been here forever, and he knows Boston 448 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 5: so well, so he has structured these clues in such 449 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: a way that Bostonians will know where it is. If 450 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 5: they don't get it on the first clue, they'll get 451 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: it on the second or third. But our true Bostonian 452 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 5: will figure out where these places are. 453 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: So one clue will be a release it what ten o'clock, 454 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: and then if some period of time passes, a second 455 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: clue gets released later that morning. 456 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 5: Correct. 457 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 4: Correct. 458 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 5: We will release the clues until there's generally about four 459 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 5: or five clues per location, and realistically you'll find it 460 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 5: by the fifth clue. 461 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: Okay, and there's certificates then will basically be taken to 462 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: your store and exchange is the certificate for the rare coin. Okay? 463 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: Right now? These all American coins, because when I checked 464 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: out your website earlier tonight, I saw that you're doing 465 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: a lot of auctions and you do coins from different 466 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: countries around the world, Sweden, Denmark. I assume you also 467 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: do American coins as well. 468 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 5: Sure well, everything here will be American and the highlight 469 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 5: the grand prize is an American twenty dollar gold piece, 470 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: which at the current value of gold is somewhere in 471 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 5: the thirty five hundred to four thousand dollars range for 472 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 5: this particular coin. So everything is an American coin. But 473 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 5: we do have two very special Boston related items which 474 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: people generally don't know about it all. One is an 475 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 5: eighteen sixty three Faniel Hall Bank of Boston vote and 476 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: it's a five cent note. And the other one is 477 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: in eighteen fifty seven Massachusetts bank note. It's a two 478 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 5: dollar note. So right away people don't realize that in 479 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: the eighteen hundreds, banks actually issued their own currency. They 480 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 5: issued notes which would circulate, and of course they would 481 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: circulate in the local territory. Unfortunately, sometimes these banks went 482 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 5: out of business and you just had a piece of 483 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 5: tissue in your hand. But these are historical documents, they're 484 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 5: hand signed, they're fabulous, beautiful colors, beautiful graphics, and in 485 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 5: this instance, these notes relate directly to Boston. They're uniquely 486 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 5: Boston items. 487 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: And I assume that even though the face value is 488 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: a flight number, that from a collector's point of view, 489 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: these notes have a value well above what the face 490 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: value of the note would suggest. 491 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: Oh. Absolutely, see, that's the good thing about it is. Yes, 492 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 5: the bank is long gone, but the notes survive and 493 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 5: have a value that is well in excess it's about 494 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 5: two hundred dollars in this instance, so certainly well in 495 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 5: access to face value. 496 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: Okay, And it's so I think that the press release 497 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: we saw was that the rear coin and currency prizes 498 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: are going to in total be valued over forty thousand dollars. 499 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: Is that accurate? Well? 500 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 5: Well, in each city we're doing this in four different 501 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: cities because we have four retail stores. Okay, city prizes 502 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: will be ten thousand dollars. 503 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: Any city, Okay, totally in tents. Okay, So got any 504 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: idea from having preps done something like this before as 505 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: to how many people you think might be following you 506 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: come next Tuesday morning. 507 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 5: We're hoping we'll get hundreds of people to follow us. 508 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 5: We're trying to get as much publicity and press as 509 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 5: we can out there, and we we'd love people to 510 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 5: take notice of us. 511 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go real slowly and let's have the uh, 512 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: let's have the website. 513 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: Okay. The website is Staxbowers dot com. 514 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: And let's spell that Stax Bowers is s T A C. 515 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 5: K S S S yes and b O W E 516 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 5: R S. 517 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: Write the name of Johnny Bowers and NHL goaltender with 518 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: the maple leafs. That's where I would know the name 519 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: Bowers from. Okay, okay, and the Staxbowers dot Com. 520 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: Right perfect, and most important is our two Instagram sites, 521 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: Stax Bowers and the other one is Stax Bowers Retail. 522 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: So both of those sites are where you're going to 523 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 5: find the clues. 524 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: Gotcha, okay, okay, so the clues are on Instagram, yes, okay, 525 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: we want to mislead anyone. Robie hope you took a 526 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: couple of notes there in case anyone calls in h 527 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: after we finish up our interview with Mark Shimmel. Mark, 528 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: thank you so much. Welcome to Boston. I think you're 529 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: going to find it to be a great historic city. 530 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've spent much time here before, 531 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: but uh, there's there's so much to see in our city. 532 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Boston. 533 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: Thank you, Dan. Yes, I love the city, and I 534 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 5: spent a lot of time there during the build out 535 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 5: of the store, and I'm generally there about once a month. 536 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: All right, I love You'll have a lot of collectors. 537 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: It's numatists. If I'm not mistaken as that is that a. 538 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 5: New Missmatist new missmetist. But that was a good try, Dan. 539 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: New mismatists. Okay, that's great. Okay, now I've got another 540 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: word in my mind. I knew what the word was, 541 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: I simply mispronounced it. Thank you so much, Max. We'll 542 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: talk again. 543 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, Dan, Thanks Milly. 544 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: All Right, when we come back, we're going to talk 545 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: about some comments made by the Secretary of War Pete Hegstath, 546 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: and we're going to be talking with a retired Air 547 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: Force major, Brian I think his nickname is mad Dog, 548 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Brian Maddog Maddox. For over twenty years, he flew an 549 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: Elite Air Force fighter jet, which was one of the 550 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: most technologically advanced on the planet. We'll be back on 551 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: Nightside right after this very quick break. 552 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio. 553 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: All right, I'm delighted to welcome a retired Air Force major. 554 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: His name is Brian Maddox. He has a nickname of 555 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: mad Dog. For over twenty years, he was an Elite 556 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: Air Force pilot flying the most technologically advanced fighter jets 557 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: on the planet, and he uses lessons learned in the 558 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: military to help companies and individuals good metaphor here sort 559 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: of new heights through his company, total engagement, leadership, General, 560 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say general, major, major, major Maddox, Welcome to Nightside. 561 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: How are you hi, Dan? Thank you fantastic, Thanks for 562 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 5: having me. I appreciate it. 563 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: So tell us about this. You basically have moved from 564 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: the chain of command, if you will, to a different 565 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: sort of sort of change, you know, a business change. 566 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: And you basically say that there's some some things you 567 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: learned in the military which can be applied in leadership positions, 568 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: particularly leadership positions within businesses. Would you like to explain that, 569 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: I certainly understand it. I'll tell you that, No. 570 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: I would love to so. So my position on that 571 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: is this. You know, when I was in I'll tell 572 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: you the story. You know, so when I was a 573 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: thirty ish year old, you know, f f steam pilot 574 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: in command of a you know, fifty million dollar airplane, 575 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: with the power, with the responsibility, I'll say it that way, 576 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: you know, to make split second life and death decisions, 577 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: you know, mine and or someone else's. Sure, you know 578 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: we had that responsibility. You know, we're training, equipped, empowered 579 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: to to do those things. 580 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: You know. 581 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: I retired from the military in twenty eleven and joined, uh, 582 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: you know, join corporate Corporate America. And and I'll tell 583 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: you it was a it was a tough transition. You know, 584 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 3: spend spend the better part of ten years kind of 585 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, figuring it out. And what I what I 586 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: the conclusion that I came to and the problem that 587 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to solve is that you know that that 588 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: train equipment power that we that we that we do 589 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: for our war fighters in the military, we don't do 590 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: that for that kind of same level of I'll call 591 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: we commonly referred to to them as mid level managers 592 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: in corporate But I think if we did that, if 593 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: we if we treated the the mid level management layer 594 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: in corporate America the same way we treat the that 595 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: that same layer in the military as as you know, 596 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: empowered responsible professionals, I truly believe even that would have 597 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: unlaunched a whole nother level of of of productivity, profitability, Uh, 598 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: pick your metric. 599 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: Some people, by some people who haven't been in the 600 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: military might maybe misunderstand that. So let me just drill 601 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: down a little bit, and that is when you're in 602 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: the military, one thing you knew you knew there's a 603 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: chain of command, and uh, generally, unless you're being ordered 604 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: to do something which will get you in trouble with 605 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: the u cmj uh, and you know you're supposed to 606 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: follow orders, you don't question again, unless you're told to 607 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: do something which is patently illegal. 608 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: Uh. 609 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: That may you would think that that would be compatible. 610 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: Uh. 611 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: But at the same time, people who have never been 612 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: in the military, some people are don't understand the reason 613 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: why an organization has to have a leadership structure where 614 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: people actually buy in and then do what they are 615 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: expected to do. Am I making sense with that question? 616 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: To you? It does? 617 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: It makes sense. 618 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: But let me just let me let me tweak that 619 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 3: a little bit of good because you know, yes, there's 620 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 3: a chain of command, Yes there's the following orders. But 621 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: what I will say, and it's this may be a 622 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 3: misconception of the military, is that you know, there's this 623 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 3: there's a there's a concept that we use called centralized 624 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: command decentralized execution, Okay, And what that means is that 625 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: you know, we again I used I used train, equipment 626 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 3: and power a lot, because that's that kind of captures 627 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: what what we do at every level of the military. 628 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: You know, I I like to use the expression profession 629 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: of arms because that that's really what it is. I mean, 630 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: everyone in the military is a professional. And so when 631 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: you are a profession and you are you're in the 632 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: United States Military and you're a member of the profession 633 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: of arms, you are you are are empowered and what's 634 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: sorry word that you're You're empowered and trusted to do 635 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: your job. 636 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: So the way the way. 637 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: Centralized command decentralized execution works is you have what we 638 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 3: call commander's intent, like hey, go go blow up that bridge, 639 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 3: go do this mission, this is your target, and then 640 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: your unit goes and does it without you know, what 641 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 3: we would commonly referred to as micromanagement. 642 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly right. 643 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: You're trained to go do it, you go do it, 644 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: and you figure it out despite despite the challenges. And 645 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's missing from corporate in 646 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: a couple of in a couple of ways, one of 647 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: which is well, one of which frankly is is lack 648 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: of that professionalized training, particularly at the mid mid level 649 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: of the company. And and second of all, is that 650 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: kind of risk averse micromanaging. 651 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 5: Ethos. 652 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 3: I guess you would say sure, uh in corporate. But 653 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: it to me, the the the the crux of that, 654 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: or the origin of all of that is that you 655 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 3: know that training, the training, equipping, empowering, which leads to trust, 656 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: which leads to hey, go do your job. 657 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 5: I expect you to go do your job. 658 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: And then we've all heard the speed of trust and 659 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: things like that, and then things start, things start working. 660 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 2: Yep, I understand what you're saying. I got to ask 661 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: you real quickly. Pete hegg Seth, the new Secretary of 662 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: the War formerly Secretary of Defense, delivered a really interesting 663 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: speech the other day to generals and admirals, folks who 664 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: normally are up there given the speeches, are giving the orders, 665 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: and they had to listen to the Secretary hegg Seth, 666 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: and I just want to play one sound bite for you, 667 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: and I want to get want to make you get Politically, 668 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of curious as you how how you 669 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 2: thought this SoundBite would be received by the military leadership 670 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: across the board. Rob just play Cup fifteen A for 671 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 2: me into it. 672 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 7: Also, today, at my direction, every warrior across our joint 673 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 7: force is required to do pt every duty day should 674 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 7: be common SATs. 675 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean most units do. 676 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 7: That already, but we're codifying and we're not talking like 677 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 7: hot yoga and stretching real hard Ptah. There's either as 678 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 7: a unit or as an individual at every level, from 679 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 7: the joint chiefs to everyone in this room to the 680 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 7: youngest private leaders set the standard, and so many of 681 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 7: you do this already active guard and reserve. This also 682 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 7: means grooming standards, no more beards, long hair, superficial individual expression. 683 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 7: We're gonna cut our hair, shave our shave our beards, 684 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 7: and adhere to standards. 685 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm just curious that that was a pretty 686 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: straightforward presentation, left little to be uh, left little said. 687 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Uh, as someone who, if you stated 688 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 2: in the military, might have ended up sitting in for 689 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: that that conversation or that that speech. What what was 690 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: your thought? Now, how do you think that will be 691 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: received by folks who you serve with? And now are 692 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: you know, in leadership positions? 693 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so here here's how I here's how I feel 694 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: about that. And frankly, the whole speech I've I've I've 695 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: seen it, I've read the transcript, and you know, let 696 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 3: me caveat it this way. If you if you watch 697 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 3: or or read that speech, and and and you take 698 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: it at face value, and you you you look at 699 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: it a politically for me, I I applaud, I applaud that. 700 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: I I applaud the the the return to standards particularly, 701 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 3: and like he said, it kind of kind of starts 702 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: with the what we call dress and personal personal appearance, 703 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: right your your physical appearance, your uniform, how you wear 704 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: the uniform, et cetera. It's it's all in a concept 705 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: of grooming, haircut, et cetera. It's what we what we 706 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 3: refer to is as dress up a dress and personal appearance. 707 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: And it's it's really fundament that some of that. 708 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 2: Could be applicable to corporations as well. You know when 709 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 2: you know when people sometimes uh take you know, a 710 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: casual dress code to to an extreme major major I 711 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: hate to do this to you, but a flat out 712 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: of time fascinating guests. How can folks in the business 713 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 2: community get in touch with you and get in touch 714 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: with the program that you're talking about. 715 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: Sure, so a couple of a couple of ways. I'm 716 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: on LinkedIn, Brian mad Dog Maddox on LinkedIn, and I 717 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: do have a website. It's Brianmaddox dot com and the 718 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: last name is M A D D O C K 719 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 3: S so Brian Maddox all one word dot com. 720 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, the best of luck. I really 721 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: do appreciate the conversation and I hope people listened not 722 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: only to the words but to the thoughts behind it. 723 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Major, Thank. 724 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 3: You, sir, Thank you for having me. 725 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: You welcome. Right, we'll be back right to the nine 726 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: o'clock news, and we're going to talk about what's over 727 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: the horizon, and that is things like the flu, maybe 728 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: a return of covid RSV. We're going to talk with 729 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: doctor Shira Dorone as to what you should be thinking 730 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 2: about in terms of shots this winter.