Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham the Grand American and welcomed this. A Wednesday
Speaker 1: afternoon in the tri State, the weather is perking once again,
Speaker 1: but Saturday and Sunday rain is predicted.
Speaker 2: Plus tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: The Steelers in town, the Bengalley's are what two and
Speaker 1: four they win the next three games or five and four?
Speaker 1: They were five and four when they went to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So I have hope. I have hope and
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and I have hoped that maybe there'll be
Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy, that Flacca will be so good that
Speaker 1: Burrows can't get his job back if he comes back
Speaker 1: in December.
Speaker 2: That's my hope.
Speaker 1: But until then, we have serious problems in the River City.
Speaker 1: I have Senator Euston coming up later. I have Britney
Speaker 1: Ruby coming up later. I have Justice Joe Dieters coming
Speaker 1: up later, plus my commentary. But until then, Judge Joshua Berkowitz.
Speaker 1: Judge Burkowitz is the presiding judge of Hemny County Municipal Court.
Speaker 1: And for those who may not know that, the first
Speaker 1: appearance generally of a criminal defendant felony or misdemeanor, is
Speaker 1: in front of a judge like Berkowitz and they set bond.
Speaker 1: Then the case normally goes to the grand jury. Then
Speaker 1: it's another bond is set in common police cord across
Speaker 1: the street. But until then, Judge Josh Burker, which welcome
Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Speaker 1: we had some more terrible violence on Fountain Square. I
Speaker 1: see that eighteen people have been wounded shot in and
Speaker 1: around Fountain Square since the start of the year. And
Speaker 1: one of the persons doing the shooting through the plate
Speaker 1: glass window was on probation because of previous flownius assaults
Speaker 1: committed by him earlier this year, and.
Speaker 2: So he's out.
Speaker 1: So just in general, what is the difficulty you see
Speaker 1: on the ground is one of the judges who actually
Speaker 1: set bonds, many of which your fellow judges are setting
Speaker 1: no cash bonds.
Speaker 2: Sign your name and lee for serious offenses.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill, thanks for having me on again. I mean,
Speaker 3: this just couldn't get more alarming. I feel like what
Speaker 3: we're witnessing here in Cincinnati is nothing short, nothing less
Speaker 3: than a descent into third world lawlessness. I can't really
Speaker 3: believe it. I grew up here, born and raised here.
Speaker 3: This was a safe city. That's not to say that
Speaker 3: there was never crime, of course there was, but this
Speaker 3: escalation of violence and a complete absence of consequences for
Speaker 3: all manner of criminal behavior. It's flat out scary, and
Speaker 3: I think it is touching the lives of every person
Speaker 3: in this region, whether you work here, live here, whatever.
Speaker 3: People are fed up with it, and they should be.
Speaker 4: This is the predictable.
Speaker 3: Product of twenty years of bad progressive criminal justice policy
Speaker 3: that you know, among other things, was sold on the
Speaker 3: public in this community and around the country that this
Speaker 3: would make us safer.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: What you mentioned, no cash bail, talking about the move
Speaker 3: to empty prisons, to not send convicted felons to prisons,
Speaker 3: to not lock people up in the county jail, to
Speaker 3: treat victims, to ignore victims of crime, and to treat
Speaker 3: the police as the villains and the responsible.
Speaker 4: Party when there's a criminal act.
Speaker 3: All of that contributes to this atmosphere of lawlessness in
Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Josh bergerit you did a TV interview a few nights
Speaker 1: ago in which you had some statistics from I think
Speaker 1: it was twenty nineteen, about six years ago, and you
Speaker 1: might recall fifteen or twenty years ago while you were
Speaker 1: probably still in high school. There was movements a foot
Speaker 1: to double the jail space. How many county jail wasn't able.
Speaker 1: We were double bunking criminals and there was a federal
Speaker 1: judge ordering Hamilton County to release criminals. My wife, when
Speaker 1: she was on the bench would get emails from Sheriff
Speaker 1: Simon Lee's at eight am, not accepting anymore and more criminals.
Speaker 1: Today we're full up, We're more than full. And because
Speaker 1: of bonds being set and judges like you, not twenty
Speaker 1: years ago but currently would send people to Hamny County
Speaker 1: jail for like thirty days, give them a taste, break
Speaker 1: the cycle. But what are the facts statistics now in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five as supposed I think it was twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: which wasn't exactly a long time.
Speaker 3: It was not a long time ago six years ago.
Speaker 3: I compared the dates October fourteenth, twenty twenty five October
Speaker 3: twenty October fourteenth, twenty nineteen. The population six years ago
Speaker 3: of the Justice Center was fifteen hundred and fifty people, Okay,
Speaker 3: one hundred supposedly over capacity of the Justice Center, which
Speaker 3: supposedly has a capacity of fourteen fifty two yesterday, the
Speaker 3: capacity at the Justice Center still fourteen fifty two and
Speaker 3: the population was something like twelve sixty, so almost two
Speaker 3: hundred empty beds just yesterday. The whole floors, whole floors
Speaker 3: of the Justice Center are empty. You know, we started
Speaker 3: getting these emails every day from the Sheriff's department letting
Speaker 3: us know about the population. You know, ten years ago
Speaker 3: when I started, when that overpopulation was such a concern
Speaker 3: and at times they had to send inmates to Butler County.
Speaker 3: And I'm proud of the fact Bill I never bought
Speaker 3: into it. You know, they would, they would kind of subtly, Hey, judge,
Speaker 3: maybe the way you set bonds. You know, we've got
Speaker 3: this overcrowding situation. I never thought that was our responsibility
Speaker 3: as judges. That's the sheriff's responsibility to maintain the jail
Speaker 3: under the Constitution of Ohio. And they took steps to
Speaker 3: deal with it. They'd send inmates to Butler County. Now
Speaker 3: we've got a situation and we can see the numbers
Speaker 3: in black and white. Two hundred empty beds in the
Speaker 3: Hamilton County Justice Center. I mean, that is outrageous. Does
Speaker 3: anybody think that there's three hundred less crimes occurring in
Speaker 3: Hamilton County right now than there were six years ago.
Speaker 3: No nobody believes that.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're Joe Strucker living a simple life in
Speaker 1: a good way, what do you say to him? As
Speaker 1: far as having the open beds, how come there are
Speaker 1: two to three hundred open beds. You're a judge sentencing people,
Speaker 1: there are setting bonds. Why are there so many open
Speaker 1: beds when there's more crime?
Speaker 3: I think it's a reflection of those progressive policies. These
Speaker 3: are policy choices in setting bonds, in fashioning sentencing on
Speaker 3: misdemeanors and on felonies, and it's a reflection of progressive
Speaker 3: police policies from City Hall. There's no question that the
Speaker 3: administration at City Hall and in the Cincinnati Police Department
Speaker 3: have actively discouraged proactive law enforcement.
Speaker 5: There's no question.
Speaker 3: Whether you're talking about, you know, traffic enforcement, or you're
Speaker 3: talking about going after illegal guns or illegal drugs, or
Speaker 3: trying to get at the violent offenders, you name it.
Speaker 4: There is no question.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's something like one hundred or two
Speaker 3: hundred police officers down from where the contract says they
Speaker 3: should be. They're not putting the resources necessary to combat crime.
Speaker 3: But more importantly than the numbers to me is they
Speaker 3: have actively discouraged proactive policing. And they did this proudly
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. They were proud of themselves
Speaker 3: that they were reimagining police work.
Speaker 6: If you remember the language of twenty twenty, that they
Speaker 6: didn't they didn't want officers proactively identifying and going after
Speaker 6: people carrying illegal guns, carrying illegal drugs, engaged in illegal trafficking. Well,
Speaker 6: that's how you get at that's how you interrupt those
Speaker 6: cycles of violence before they happen.
Speaker 3: You get the people carrying an illegal gun, you get
Speaker 3: the people engaged in drug trafficking before it goes over
Speaker 3: into shootings, and innocent people are caught in the crossfire.
Speaker 1: When I practice actively on the criminal defense bar, if
Speaker 1: you had a client on a no driver's license or
Speaker 1: driving under suspension, or driving with no insurance, it was regular.
Speaker 1: If you're in front of a judge Jack Rosen or
Speaker 1: even a judge Robert Gorman Democrat, Rich Kneehouse Democrat, Skip
Speaker 1: West Democrat, they would go to jail. Because if you
Speaker 1: drive a car and you don't have a license and
Speaker 1: you don't have insurance, that's like a serious offense. Today,
Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson and others tell police, if you do that,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a Pandora's box. Well you pull
Speaker 1: somebody over speeding, Well you're going thirty five and a
Speaker 1: twenty five. Let me see your license. Well I don't
Speaker 1: have a license. And let me see your insurance. I
Speaker 1: don't have insurance. You run them as there's two warrants
Speaker 1: out for your arrest, get out of the car now
Speaker 1: your hand's on and they might find in the car
Speaker 1: other stuff. When you talk about proactive policing, if someone's
Speaker 1: walking around downtown Cincinnati smoking a joint or injecting himselves
Speaker 1: with drugs. For the first time, yesterday I heard Chief
Speaker 1: of Police Fiji, who by the way, is on extremely
Speaker 1: thin ice maybe single digits employment, say that we're going
Speaker 1: to quote confront you.
Speaker 2: You will be.
Speaker 1: Confronted if you're violating your criminal statue. If you're confronted,
Speaker 1: what the hell does that mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that terminology in the law bill.
Speaker 3: You know, none of this stuff used to be controversial
Speaker 3: ten years ago. Even ten years ago when I took
Speaker 3: the bench, there was not this this divergence of approach
Speaker 3: when it comes to bond setting. For example, all the
Speaker 3: judges that you mentioned and the judges that were on
Speaker 3: the bench, whether they were Democrat or Republican, it didn't matter.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't a controversial thing. You see, you if
Speaker 3: you saw a dangerous individual, how do you know, well,
Speaker 3: the seriousess of the allegation, the criminal history, their history
Speaker 3: of failure to appear in court. You know, serious bonds
Speaker 3: were set on serious cases and that was not something
Speaker 3: that was terribly controversial. But like I said, that progressive philosophy,
Speaker 3: and it was very it was very proudly brought to
Speaker 3: the bench that we're going to just like that, reimagining police,
Speaker 3: defunding the police, ending cash bail. I mean, there's this
Speaker 3: mentality amongst the progressive activist lawyers and now unfortunately some
Speaker 3: judges around the country that views the jail or prison
Speaker 3: as a as an absolute, just unnecessary evil. They just
Speaker 3: they load the concept of sending somebody to jail. It's
Speaker 3: very very I mean, it's tragic in a number of respects.
Speaker 3: Obviously it's made our community less safe, but they ignore
Speaker 3: and overlook all of the positive things that can happen.
Speaker 3: You know, when we set appropriate bonds on serious cases.
Speaker 3: We have the potential to disrupt cycles of violence, cycles
Speaker 3: of addiction, cycles of abuse and trauma, you know, all
Speaker 3: the things that that progressive minded people claim to care
Speaker 3: so much about. We have the opportunity to send a
Speaker 3: message to victims that our that our courthouse is fair,
Speaker 3: that it's functional, that they're going to get justice here.
Speaker 3: We have the opportunity to connect people with all kinds
Speaker 3: of services through the jail, mental health treatment, drug addiction treatment.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are real, real opportunities, uh, to you know,
Speaker 3: reduce violence in this community and and and push back
Speaker 3: and to deter criminal behavior. And it's it's nothing short
Speaker 3: of a tragedy that so many at all levels of
Speaker 3: government have seen that as as unnecessary and oh it's
Speaker 3: just it's too expensive. You know, criminal justice is not
Speaker 3: a line item on a budget. This is why people
Speaker 3: pay tax locally, state, federal, so that they are not
Speaker 3: shot coming out of their workplace.
Speaker 4: Or going out to dinner, so that they're not.
Speaker 3: In the crossfire, so that violent people are taken off
Speaker 3: the streets and we can live in a safe community.
Speaker 1: Judge Berkowitz I said to you off the air, this
Speaker 1: is not democratic Republican. I appeared in front of Democratic
Speaker 1: judges like Cheryl Grant or Andrew West or Nadine Allen
Speaker 1: or Rich Kniehaus or feller Offer Gorman, go down the list,
Speaker 1: and there wasn't a great separation between Democrat and Republican.
Speaker 2: But today there is.
Speaker 1: And I think that George Floyd effect in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: was a key part of that. That there was a
Speaker 1: sense that we have to reimagine criminal justice. So now
Speaker 1: we have judges like Kerry Bloom who's in juvenile court
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to sentence somebody to jail because jail
Speaker 1: inflicts more harm upon a defendant than the defendant inflicted
Speaker 1: upon the victim. There was a report by Channel nineteen
Speaker 1: Fox nineteen that so far this year she has sent
Speaker 1: one seventeen year old to adult court for an adult
Speaker 1: crime involving a gun.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 1: Are you exasperated when you get with your fellow judges
Speaker 1: and you must run around with the other thirteen or
Speaker 1: fourteen of them?
Speaker 2: Is there a sense?
Speaker 1: Is there a disagreement, Is there an argument or simply
Speaker 1: all of you are like different islands together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I try to focus on my responsibility
Speaker 3: when I set bonds. You know, that's my I believe
Speaker 3: I take seriously our constitutional responsibility to consider public safety
Speaker 3: when we're setting bonds. But I'm not in another courtroom.
Speaker 3: I'm not in front of these other judges.
Speaker 5: I don't I'm not.
Speaker 3: Looking over their shoulder, and I don't know their thought process.
Speaker 3: I would hope that everyone on our court takes this
Speaker 3: responsibility seriously. I hope that people are starting to uh
Speaker 3: that these policies, like I said earlier, you know, they
Speaker 3: were all not just supposed to be more fair, not
Speaker 3: just supposed to be you know, less expensive. They were
Speaker 3: all pitched to the to the community and to the
Speaker 3: court as they would make our community safer. And by
Speaker 3: any measure, it has been an abject failure, an absolute
Speaker 3: failure in every sense of the word. And I would
Speaker 3: hope that the judges who are on the court, both
Speaker 3: my colleagues and municipal court and in the common Police
Speaker 3: Court where a felony sentencing occurs, I hope that people
Speaker 3: wake up to the reality this community. I don't care
Speaker 3: what neighborhood you're.
Speaker 4: In, It's not just Kenwood, it's not just Indian Hill.
Speaker 3: People across this community want safe neighborhoods, safe streets. They
Speaker 3: want their kids to be able to go to school
Speaker 3: without fear of gunfire. They want they want to be
Speaker 3: able to go out and enjoy a ballgame or a
Speaker 3: night out at a at a restaurant downtown without worrying
Speaker 3: about you know, what happened between the car and the
Speaker 3: front door. That is not and it shouldn't be too
Speaker 3: much to ask. Those are reasonable expectations, and it's not
Speaker 3: being delivered right now.
Speaker 1: Two to three hundred empty beds in the Hamlet County
Speaker 1: Justice Center tells exactly what's happening. But Judge Josh Burko,
Speaker 1: which we have to go and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: We get the government we deserve, and we need better
Speaker 1: judges and not Democrat Republican.
Speaker 2: We need those who sentence criminal to.
Speaker 1: Jail and keep people in jail locked up for serious crimes.
Speaker 1: And about half the bench doesn't do it, and half
Speaker 1: do when you're in the part that does it correctly.
Speaker 2: But Judge Josh Burko, yeah, go ahead, judge.
Speaker 4: You know, the great thing about the system of electing.
Speaker 3: Judges in Ohio is that people have a voice. They
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to choose what kind of justice system
Speaker 3: that they want in Hamilton County and around the counties
Speaker 3: of Ohio. Every one of us, every judge, has to
Speaker 3: stand for election.
Speaker 4: You know, public safety is one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent on the ballot right next to me when
Speaker 3: I'm running this fall. And for people who want to
Speaker 3: get involved, they can go to keep Judge Berkerwitz dot com.
Speaker 3: They can get involved, they can express their support and
Speaker 3: voice their desire to live in a safe community. And yeah,
Speaker 3: elections have consequences. We have an opportunity to send a
Speaker 3: strong message that this community still cares and still demands
Speaker 3: public safety. I believe we do, and I think we're
Speaker 3: going to send us strong messages.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: All right, Judge Burkeerysh thanks for coming on the Bill
Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And Judge, you're a great American. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill, I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Well let's continue with Mark coming up later as a
Speaker 1: United States Senator, and also Britney Ruby and also Justice
Speaker 1: Jeaters on news radio seven hundred WLW. You know, the
Speaker 1: more I listen to Lance McAllister, the more I like them.
Speaker 1: The guy's got some talent, join me and listening to
Speaker 1: him every night six to nine, et cetera. Let's get
Speaker 1: down to specifics. Let's name names, setting up today's big show.
Speaker 1: I want to thank Judge Josh Berkowitz for coming on
Speaker 1: somewhat difficult, and I know he's going to catch some
Speaker 1: flak from some for telling the truth. But the truth
Speaker 1: will set you free. And the fact that we have
Speaker 1: two to three hundred empty beds in the Hamley County
Speaker 1: Justice Center also known as the jail, is indicative of
Speaker 1: a large problem with the judges of Hamilton County. This
Speaker 1: is not may I say, Democrat or Republican, or male
Speaker 1: versus female, because some of the best conservative judges I
Speaker 1: know are female, like Penelope R. Cunningham or Sharon Kennedy
Speaker 1: or Melba Marsh. There's all kinds of good female judges,
Speaker 1: all kinds of good Democratic judges. For many years, whether
Speaker 1: it was Judge Gorman or Judge West, Judge Morey Kneehouse,
Speaker 1: Judge Richard Kneehouse or Judge Nadine Allen or Cheryl Grant
Speaker 1: or Andrew West, they were all Democrats, but they had
Speaker 1: a sense of protecting the community from the criminal element
Speaker 1: in which they lived. It's kind of odd the Democrats
Speaker 1: that's the party that elects judges that have a no
Speaker 1: cash bond, no one goes to jail attitude. When the
Speaker 1: defendants in front of these democratic judges prey upon the
Speaker 1: black community itself, one might ask, in that's somewhat odd, but.
Speaker 2: This is where we are.
Speaker 1: I am told by knowledgeable sources that the days of
Speaker 1: Chief of Police Teresa Thigi are numbered in the single digits.
Speaker 2: She's going to be.
Speaker 1: The fall guy, the fall girl for what's happening. She
Speaker 1: has completely lost the confidence of her command staff. She
Speaker 1: speaks to the media, but doesn't speak to the command staff,
Speaker 1: the many women in blue. She doesn't go to districts,
Speaker 1: and there's no respect, no respect between the command staff
Speaker 1: of CPD and the cops in the street on the
Speaker 1: one hand, and Chief of Police Terisa Thigi on the other.
Speaker 1: You might know that she's left town. She's in Denver
Speaker 1: allegedly for a three day, four day Chief of Police conference.
Speaker 1: They're working out her severance package, and they want to
Speaker 1: bring in someone that commands the respect of the men
Speaker 1: and women in blue because they don't respect her. That's
Speaker 1: a problem. I'm also told that the Sheriff of Hamilton
Speaker 1: County Charmaine McGuffey has stepped forward to say I will
Speaker 1: fill the breach. In fact, one politician told me that
Speaker 1: they kind of asked the sheriff, Charmaine McGuffey, if she
Speaker 1: can also serve as the chief of police, and the
Speaker 1: answer was no, can't do that. But see, the jurisdiction
Speaker 1: of the sheriff is as complete on Fountain Square as
Speaker 1: it is in Sycamore Township. It's the entire county. And
Speaker 1: she is outraged at what she sees in her city.
Speaker 1: And she does have the respect of her command staff.
Speaker 1: And you talk to the men and women in gold
Speaker 1: and black operating the Sheriff's department, they say, we respect
Speaker 1: that that woman right there, Charmaine McGuffey. We respect her
Speaker 1: because she came up through the ranks, held every lousy
Speaker 1: job in the Sheriff's department. She was a corporal, a sergeant, lieutenant,
Speaker 1: a captain of commander. She come all the way up,
Speaker 1: so all those years she built relationships up and down
Speaker 1: the ladder with the men and women in gold and
Speaker 1: black who wear the sheriff's uniform. So look forward in
Speaker 1: the future to Charmaine McGuffey to get a much larger role.
Speaker 1: I also would note that because the election is only
Speaker 1: about two and a half weeks away, that I have
Speaker 1: to have pureval has seen the promised Land, He's seen
Speaker 1: the light, so he kind of wants at this point
Speaker 1: the state to come in and do more stuff so
Speaker 1: that the Feds don't come in and do a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. You heard Anna Albie with Scott Sloan, and
Speaker 1: she's completely lost her way as a left wing radical.
Speaker 1: Blaming guns for violence is like blaming cars for car recks.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, we've had that argument so many times in
Speaker 1: the past, is not worth repeating it. One of the
Speaker 1: safest plays to be is at a gun show in
Speaker 1: which there's thousands of guns and thousands of rounds of
Speaker 1: ammunition and hundreds of people with guns everywhere, and nobody
Speaker 1: gets shot. No such a thing as gun violence. There's
Speaker 1: three hundred million guns in the country. Guns do not
Speaker 1: commit violence. Cars do not commit violence. People operating cars
Speaker 1: and operating guns they do commit violence. And we got
Speaker 1: law upon law after law about who can drive a car,
Speaker 1: who can't drive a car, who can own a gun,
Speaker 1: who cannot own a gun? Three day waiting period, you
Speaker 1: got waiting You got this. You got that. They're all
Speaker 1: kind of loss. It is not about some inanimate metal
Speaker 1: objects that is never on its own hurt anyone unless
Speaker 1: it's fired an accident, well by itself.
Speaker 2: That's not a problem.
Speaker 1: So it's absurd for Anna Albi to talk about guns
Speaker 1: are the problem, or I have to have pure of
Speaker 1: all who's completely lost his way. Guns are the problem.
Speaker 1: It's like blaming a Chevrolet. If some driver drives drunk,
Speaker 1: uses it improperly and hurts someone, No one locks up
Speaker 1: to Chevrolet. So it is ridiculous. It's an excuse because
Speaker 1: of the failure of their policies. That's why guns are
Speaker 1: mentioned so often my Democrats. It's an excuse and a
Speaker 1: diversion from reality. Getting back to the question at hand,
Speaker 1: f Ted Pirreval has determined that Chief of Police, Teresa
Speaker 1: Thiji must go. It's reached national proportions. I may play
Speaker 1: later for you a national commentator talking about the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and how absurd it is to have a
Speaker 1: chief of police that looks like she belongs on a
Speaker 1: can of Dutch Boy soup Dutch Boy paint. That would
Speaker 1: be Thiji saying we're going to confront you if you
Speaker 1: commit crime, you will be confronted. It isn't call it
Speaker 1: confronting somebody, It's called arresting somebody that tried and true works.
Speaker 1: As Josh Berkowitz said, number one, you need cops to
Speaker 1: arrest criminals. Number two, you need prosecutors to prosecute criminals.
Speaker 1: And number three, you need judges to send criminals to prison,
Speaker 1: not like Judge Carrie Bloom who never met a criminal
Speaker 1: she didn't like.
Speaker 2: And I will name names.
Speaker 1: I will name names because we have about half the bench,
Speaker 1: our disciples of restorative justice, who bought into the arguments
Speaker 1: about defunding the police and emptying out the jails after
Speaker 1: the so called George Floyd riots, using that as an
Speaker 1: opportunity to impose left wing socialism on our major cities
Speaker 1: which have largely collapsed the past five years, including the
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. So that disastrous news conference yesterday by
Speaker 1: the chief of police kind of sewed her up as
Speaker 1: to be replaced soon by someone, and the mayor's looking
Speaker 1: around now to have an interim chief appointment to get
Speaker 1: him through until election day. I would be shocked if
Speaker 1: Fiji at this point can save her job. And I
Speaker 1: also would be surprised if Charmaine McGuffey, the sheriff, doesn't
Speaker 1: step up and say I'll do my job. You might
Speaker 1: recall I had her on about a month ago. She
Speaker 1: issued hundreds of citations, confiscated many guns, and arrested individuals
Speaker 1: on warns. But then once they get into the court system,
Speaker 1: her hands are tied about what she can do. As
Speaker 1: Josh Berkeleish just said, we have two to three hundred
Speaker 1: empty beds because municipal court judges and common police court
Speaker 1: judges do not set appropriate bonds considering public safety as
Speaker 1: they're required to do, and doesn't want someone to go
Speaker 1: to prison and the good old days, like ten years ago,
Speaker 1: you might have three to five years on the shelf
Speaker 1: and then go to Hamlet County jail for like ninety days.
Speaker 1: Give you a taste, then you get out. You serve
Speaker 1: you ninety days. You might get out in seventy five
Speaker 1: days with good behavior. You've been prison. You've been in
Speaker 1: jail for two two and a half months and on
Speaker 1: the shelf is three years. Now reform your life. But
Speaker 1: we have several judges in Hamlin County who give no
Speaker 1: cash bonds because it's not fair. And secondly, who will
Speaker 1: not send people to prison. They include Judge Jennifer Branch,
Speaker 1: Kai Cash, Judge Wendy Cross, Judge Allison Hathaway, Judge Christopher Jenkins,
Speaker 1: Judge Virginia Tallon, Judge Dante Johnson, Judge Dwayne Mallory, Judge
Speaker 1: Bill Mallory. One of the worst is Judge Samantha Silverstein,
Speaker 1: brand new judge public defender type who gives no cash,
Speaker 1: bonds constantly on felonies, and doesn't send people to jail.
Speaker 1: Judge Samantha I'll give her extra commendations along with Carrie Bloom.
Speaker 1: Judge Samantha Silverstein does not think people belong in jail,
Speaker 1: and of course Judge Deniah Trotter. All these happen to
Speaker 1: be Democrats, and all believe in the principles of restorative justice.
Speaker 1: That is, it's unfair to send a criminal to jail.
Speaker 1: Does many have said, like Judge carry Bloom and Juvenile
Speaker 1: Court that jail Juvie Court at twenty twenty Auburn or
Speaker 1: Upstate causes more harm upon a juvenile than the harm
Speaker 1: the juvenile inflicted upon the victim. So when you have
Speaker 1: judges who believe in restorative justice, judges who believe in
Speaker 1: sanctuary city status, judges who believe that bonds should not
Speaker 1: take into account public safety, which by the ways against
Speaker 1: the law. Just because some criminal can't afford to post
Speaker 1: a bond while some rich guy could doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: the poor guy shouldn't get a break. It used to
Speaker 1: be when you committed a serious crime, you got a
Speaker 1: serious bond. But if you're Judge Samanthus Silverstein or one
Speaker 1: of the Mallories or Dante Johnson or Janiah Trotter, you
Speaker 1: don't think so. That's why there's two to three hundred
Speaker 1: empty beds right now in the Hema County jail, and
Speaker 1: normally judges like Josh Berkowitz or Judge Winkler or Judge
Speaker 1: Tinklocker wants to fill them up with criminals who should
Speaker 1: be in jail and not on the street. Like the
Speaker 1: guy who was twenty four years old convicted a few
Speaker 1: months ago this year of felonious assault causing serious physical
Speaker 1: harm to another is out on probation because of the
Speaker 1: activities of judge when you cross, who don't want to
Speaker 1: put criminals in jail who commit serious crimes. Secondly, because
Speaker 1: of George Floyd and others, there was a movement accepted
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Himlelton County that sheriff's departments and cops and
Speaker 1: aren't going to pull over individuals for minor traffic violations
Speaker 1: because it might lead to something else in this world.
Speaker 1: If you're a judge, if you're a judge or a
Speaker 1: council member, Scottie Johnson or Victoria Parks or of course
Speaker 1: Lemon Kearney, you should represent properly the black community, and
Speaker 1: you do not, since the great bulk of the crime
Speaker 1: committed is in the black community.
Speaker 2: By zip code.
Speaker 1: The zip codes tell you where the black community is,
Speaker 1: and the crime in Cincinnati is largely a young black
Speaker 1: mail face. Well, the great majority of young black males
Speaker 1: don't commit crime, but they believe locking up a black
Speaker 1: kid is the system's problem. So the cops are told,
Speaker 1: and you've heard me say this, You've heard Ken Cobra
Speaker 1: or the police say this, we are disincentivized to pull
Speaker 1: somebody over. Who's speeding down Madison Avenue, Madison Road, someone
Speaker 1: in Montgomery Road, who's someone on Reading Road. By the casino,
Speaker 1: you can see people zip through red lights and swerve
Speaker 1: around traffic, leave their line to travel, and commit other
Speaker 1: traffic offenses and cops don't pull them over. Why because
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to. Why because if you pull them over,
Speaker 1: can I see your ID? Can I see your license?
Speaker 1: Do you have insurance? Is there anything in the car
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be in there? Suddenly your hands on with
Speaker 1: a large number of people, and Scottie Johnson doesn't want that.
Speaker 1: But when you do that, you find out illegal guns,
Speaker 1: illegal drugs. This person has warns out for their arrest.
Speaker 1: Then you got to arrest somebody. Then you put them
Speaker 1: into jail, and within twelve hours you're up here in
Speaker 1: front of Judge Samanthas Silverstein and gosh what you bond
Speaker 1: out quickly, you sign your name and you're gone to
Speaker 1: drive some more cars around. So we learned yesterday from
Speaker 1: Chief of Police Thiegy days are numbered that they're going
Speaker 1: to confront criminals when they're committing crime in the presence
Speaker 1: of cops. I don't call it confrontation. I call it arrest.
Speaker 1: Put your hands behind your back. You're under arrest for
Speaker 1: smoking pot publicly. That is a misdemeanor. You're using drugs
Speaker 1: in public and needle in your arm. You're under arrest.
Speaker 1: You're speeding, you're under arrest, some sort of burnout on
Speaker 1: Vine Street. You're under arrest, we fill up the jail.
Speaker 1: You might recall the judge just said five years ago,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Six years ago, there was five hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty inmates in the jail with a little bit of
Speaker 1: double booking going on. Right now they're down two to
Speaker 1: three hundred inmates, empty beds because judges are not sending
Speaker 1: criminals to jail. They don't think it's fair, they don't
Speaker 1: think it's right. In fact, Wendy Cross wants to go
Speaker 1: back thirty or forty years and find out what Eldwood
Speaker 1: Jones knew who was a condemned murderer of Rhoda Nathan
Speaker 1: and she freed him on chief freed a condemned murderer
Speaker 1: from death row and gave him an O R bond
Speaker 1: to get out.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? No, that's the fact.
Speaker 1: And so we have systemic difficulty, systemic problems. It is
Speaker 1: a police department that's demoralized and doesn't pay attention to
Speaker 1: the chief. It's a judicial system where half the judges
Speaker 1: are after the George Floyd effects constantly and feeling sorry
Speaker 1: for people who commit crime. And then you also have
Speaker 1: the Parole Probation Board in Columbus who free people like
Speaker 1: Mordecai Black throughout murder Patrick Herringer in his own home
Speaker 1: cutting off his monitor and CP didn't pay attention. You
Speaker 1: got that issue, but it begins with the cops on
Speaker 1: the street. Then it has to go to the bench.
Speaker 1: You can't have individuals supposedly representing all of us, but
Speaker 1: especially the black community, that engages in decisions that hurt
Speaker 1: the black community.
Speaker 2: Are you better off today than you are four years ago?
Speaker 7: Wo?
Speaker 2: They have to have pure of all as the mayor.
Speaker 2: Are you better off now? Huh?
Speaker 1: So, the ten to fifteen percent of my audience who
Speaker 1: live in the city of Cincinnati, you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to change things. And if you fail to take that
Speaker 1: opportunity and you put the same clowns in charge you
Speaker 1: have now, don't anticipate different results. Anticipate more companies will
Speaker 1: leave downtown Cincinnati. Anticipate more crime will be committed. And
Speaker 1: don't tell me, please, don't tell me that there's less
Speaker 1: crime being committed today. Garbage in, garbage out. Cops are
Speaker 1: told not to arrest people. That's a reason crime reporting
Speaker 1: is down because criminals aren't being arrested. Secondly, you're down
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the cops. If there's twenty percent less cops,
Speaker 1: there should be at least twenty percent fewer arrest. Cops
Speaker 1: are the ones doing the arresting. So if you have
Speaker 1: twenty percent fewer cops, you have twenty percent fewer arrest
Speaker 1: Just say exactly where you are. Add on top of
Speaker 1: that the fact that individuals who commit crime I'm in
Speaker 1: public are not being arrested by the cops on duty.
Speaker 1: They'll see somebody committing a crime and they won't arrest
Speaker 1: that person. Then the other twenty percent of cops that
Speaker 1: don't exist, there's nobody to arrest anybody anyway. Therefore, guess what, Hey,
Speaker 1: crime is down. Don't worry about it. Crime is down.
Speaker 1: Look at the statistics. Garbage in, garbage out. Crime is
Speaker 1: down because you have twenty percent fewer cops. Crime is
Speaker 1: down because cops aren't arresting people. Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. So the mayor is going to use
Speaker 1: Thiji as a sacrificial lamb, then appoint somebody else either
Speaker 1: before after the election, and move on.
Speaker 2: Can you smell when I'm cooking? Let's continue We never stopped.
Speaker 1: We simply continue and coming up after one o'clock today,
Speaker 1: we've scheduled Senator John Houston, former lieutenant governor has held
Speaker 1: every position in the state of Ohio now the United
Speaker 1: States Senate. And then also later on we scheduled a
Speaker 1: representative of Jeff Ruby, Britney Ruby will be here at
Speaker 1: two of five today to talk about the closing of
Speaker 1: one of her facilities downtown Lampeka and all of her offices,
Speaker 1: the crime situation. She issued a press release yesterday, given
Speaker 1: the mayor twenty four hours and he did hold the
Speaker 1: news conference at two o'clock yesterday. That was a disaster
Speaker 1: for the chief of police. A disaster, an unmitigated disaster,
Speaker 1: can I say it again? Disaster for law enforcement. And
Speaker 1: it was at that point the mayor in the back
Speaker 1: of his head said she's got to go. So instead
Speaker 1: of staying in town, it was reported that she's in Denver, Colorado,
Speaker 1: attending a chief of Police conferences. The mayor puts together
Speaker 1: a severance package. Well, what happened before after the election,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the mayor thinks he's in trouble
Speaker 1: because of the campaign of Corey Bowman. The mayor thinks
Speaker 1: he's in trouble, so he wants to act as if
Speaker 1: things are going to be different. Let's continue with more
Speaker 1: and line becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand. I think the Bengals will do so well
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, though it could be a quarterback controversy. I
Speaker 1: think Flacco will do so well people will say we
Speaker 1: don't need Joe Burrow anymore.
Speaker 2: Twelve fifty five. Home are your Bengals?
Speaker 1: Who's radio seven hundred Wow, Billy Cunning Immigrant America. We've
Speaker 1: heard from judges now in Hamlin a County, and also
Speaker 1: later on we have the scheduled anyway Britney Ruby to
Speaker 1: come on. I talked to her this morning at length.
Speaker 1: Scheduled to come on about two o'clock today. We also
Speaker 1: have Supreme Court Justice show Diaters coming on. We have
Speaker 1: everyone coming on, including the junior senator from the great
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, Senator John Houston, who's busy in Washington,
Speaker 1: not too busy with the government shutdown. A senator, I
Speaker 1: saw you a week ago presiding in the Senate, and
Speaker 1: I felt particularly proud you were trying to get the
Speaker 1: government shut down to conclude.
Speaker 2: But the Democrats won't do that.
Speaker 1: Before we talk about the government shutdown, what is your
Speaker 1: perception of what's happening now in the city of Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and what role, if any, can the state and or
Speaker 1: the fedch play in bringing peace to River City.
Speaker 5: Well, Bill, it's great to be with you. It's an
Speaker 5: unfortunate thing because I always say this's about cities. Your
Speaker 5: number one job when you're the mayor, the chief of police,
Speaker 5: the city council is protect people and their property. If
Speaker 5: you fail to do that, you fail to do that
Speaker 5: fundamental thing, then people will not visit your city, People
Speaker 5: will not invest there, people will leave, people, businesses will
Speaker 5: move out of your downtown in your area. And it's
Speaker 5: harming and it harms the people of your city the
Speaker 5: most because not only does it make them unsafe, but
Speaker 5: it also makes it weakened and economically weakens your your city.
Speaker 5: And the only ex I mean, you tell me what
Speaker 5: the explanation is to this, but why wouldn't you have
Speaker 5: a police there all the time, over time, showing the
Speaker 5: presidents and basically saying, no, a heart of our central
Speaker 5: business district, entertainment district, it will be safe. We invite
Speaker 5: the world to come to Cincinnati because it's the safest city. Instead,
Speaker 5: it's becoming a very dangerous.
Speaker 2: City center of the calls.
Speaker 1: In effect, PNG is grossly expanding its footprint in Mason.
Speaker 1: They're getting prepared to downsize their facilities. You know, Macy's
Speaker 1: has moved out, is now going to become try to
Speaker 1: become apartment buildings. Most of the large businesses in Cincinnati
Speaker 1: have their own police department because they can't trust the city.
Speaker 1: I am told the chief of police Thiji is about
Speaker 1: to become the fall guy. She's about to get a
Speaker 1: copy of the home game because the mayor's policies don't work.
Speaker 1: The mayor did a big news conference. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: you were there, but the governor was there, the FBI
Speaker 1: was there, the Department of Treasury was there, the US
Speaker 1: Marshall was there, County prosecutors there, County sheriff was there,
Speaker 1: accepting state help that never arrived because the mayor and
Speaker 1: share along the city manager, it never triggered it requesting it.
Speaker 1: And we look at the memorandum of understanding. It involved
Speaker 1: two shifts a month having the state involved. And now
Speaker 1: after yesterday's news conference, it appears the city they finally
Speaker 1: have said to the County and to the state. We
Speaker 1: need help get it done. We can't fix the roads.
Speaker 1: We have potholes everywhere, Bridges are falling down, and the
Speaker 1: police force does not listen greatly to the chief of police, order,
Speaker 1: the mayor, order the city manager. That's another complete different issue.
Speaker 1: We have car break ins. We have more than twenty
Speaker 1: thousand shots every filed every year rattling around Cincinnati. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have about four hundred people shot. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: about one hundred people murdered. We're gonna have about two
Speaker 1: thousand cars stolen and about fifteen thousand car break ins.
Speaker 1: And you know, John, excuse me, Senator, Cincinnati is like
Speaker 1: seven miles by eight miles.
Speaker 2: It's small.
Speaker 1: The public school system has forty six percent of the
Speaker 1: children are chronically absent, and if you're a black boy,
Speaker 1: you're chronically absent seventy one percent of the time. On
Speaker 1: top of all this, we have two thousand kids in
Speaker 1: foster care. We have a complete meltdown of the institutions,
Speaker 1: and Corporate America is voting with their moving truck to
Speaker 1: get out of downtown Cincinnati. What role, if any, could
Speaker 1: the National Guard play? I know that was a topic
Speaker 1: and the mayor debate, and you're kind of in charge
Speaker 1: of that in a sense, what role does a National
Speaker 1: Guard play to bring order to our city?
Speaker 5: Well, Bill, look, you needn't look very far away.
Speaker 2: Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 5: The governor just sent a special violent crime reduction unit
Speaker 5: to Cleveland with the Highway Patrol, and in one weekend
Speaker 5: they captured five eight eight felony arrests, six illegal firearms recovered, okay,
Speaker 5: and they captured a guy who was part of a
Speaker 5: mass shooting last year. Okay, And like literally this was
Speaker 5: in one weekend when when the city of Cleveland finally
Speaker 5: relented and said, hey, we're going to accept help from
Speaker 5: the Highway Patrol, the governor sent them in and they
Speaker 5: captured all of these people who've been terrorized in the community.
Speaker 5: You can do the same thing in Cincinnati. It's just
Speaker 5: that you need to have a mayor and the chief
Speaker 5: of police who are willing to let it happen that
Speaker 5: you can do this with law enforcement. The challenge for
Speaker 5: the National Guard is that they don't have they don't
Speaker 5: have the ability to arrest people. They can protect, they
Speaker 5: can create a presence, but they don't have they don't
Speaker 5: have law enforcement powers. That's why sending in the highway
Speaker 5: patrol is a better way to do it, because they
Speaker 5: can arrest people, they can coordinate with law enforcement, and
Speaker 5: they can clean up the streets. But you've got to
Speaker 5: have local leaders who will do this.
Speaker 1: Didn't happen. We had this big news conference a month ago.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Had another one yesterday, and what's our
Speaker 1: chief of police looked in the camera and told her
Speaker 1: officers in uniform what to do is she didn't tell them.
Speaker 1: She told the news media. And she says, if you're
Speaker 1: committing crime in Cincinnati, we will con front you. We
Speaker 1: will confront you. And I'm thinking confront me. I want
Speaker 1: someone to be arrested.
Speaker 2: We have time.
Speaker 5: I will arrest you and prosecute you the fullest extent
Speaker 5: of the law and get you off our street, probably
Speaker 5: to protect businesses and do the thing that we need
Speaker 5: to keep people safe. That's what she needs to say.
Speaker 1: No, we're gonna confront you, and I have, you know,
Speaker 1: the county corner last me some markets.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe they could, maybe they could have admonished them to.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get You're gonna get time out in the corner.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, She says, we will confront you.
Speaker 1: And if I'm a gangbanger with guns and I'm selling drugs,
Speaker 1: breaking into cars and god knows, burglarizing, I have the
Speaker 1: chief of police who looks like she belongs on a
Speaker 1: can of Dutch Boy paint, who's telling me I'm gonna
Speaker 1: confront you. It's like confront We have open air drug use,
Speaker 1: marijuana frequently being smoked, and I hope the President doesn't
Speaker 1: do much with that, by the way, because it's gone
Speaker 1: into the children. We have open air drug markets. We
Speaker 1: have homeless encampments, we have car break ins, we have
Speaker 1: people getting shot on Fountain Square, and the chief police says,
Speaker 1: you will be confronted.
Speaker 2: What why you got me?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I'm good, Now, I'm good.
Speaker 5: I'm Bill. I talked to some Cincinnati police officers recently
Speaker 5: and I asked this question. I said, I said, look
Speaker 5: what happens when you arrest people, because.
Speaker 4: It's more than just it's more than just the law enforcements.
Speaker 5: And then you send them to court. Are they putting
Speaker 5: them away? Are they are they taking the criminals off
Speaker 5: the street and putting them in jail? And one officer
Speaker 5: told me a story that there's a gas station a
Speaker 5: corner where there's constantly fights, there's constantly drug deals going
Speaker 5: on there. They arrest them, they take them to jail,
Speaker 5: and when less than twenty four hours, they're back on
Speaker 5: the streets. So the criminals know that you develop a
Speaker 5: culture in your city based on whether you're tough on
Speaker 5: crime or you're weak on crime. And once the criminals
Speaker 5: know that there are no consequences for committing crimes, guess
Speaker 5: what they commit the crimes and that's the culture that's
Speaker 5: being developed that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 1: The Shell station on Central Parkway is the site of
Speaker 1: massive drug sales captured on video on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: and there are no arrests. When I talked to Ken
Speaker 1: Kober of the FOP, they tell me we have the
Speaker 1: indirect message not to arrest people unless it's required, because
Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson and others on city Council don't want to
Speaker 1: go hands on with someone. If you go hands on,
Speaker 1: you might have an incident, you might have a warrant,
Speaker 1: you might find out he's got a gun. We don't
Speaker 1: pull people over for speeding reckless operation because we have
Speaker 1: speed bumps. The speed bumps take the place more queue.
Speaker 1: The speed bumps because the city council doesn't want police
Speaker 1: to pull somebody over, run their warrants. Okay, you don't
Speaker 1: have a license, don't have insurance, their car's not registered,
Speaker 1: got guns there. They don't want that to happen, So
Speaker 1: we have speed bumps instead of cops. And on that point,
Speaker 1: about an hour ago, ahead on Judge Josh Berkowitz, who's
Speaker 1: the presiding judge in Hamley County Municipal Court, he put
Speaker 1: the cheese on the cracker. He said, half the judges
Speaker 1: in my court believe in restorative justice. So I say
Speaker 1: to him, Okay, I think I know what is restorative justice.
Speaker 1: If you're a judge, that the fact is that needs
Speaker 1: to restore justice to the criminal. A many times the
Speaker 1: so called black community, the great majority of black kids
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with crime.
Speaker 2: But the face in Cincinnati is a black male face.
Speaker 2: And so if you come.
Speaker 1: Out of the restorative justice movement, you believe in no
Speaker 1: cash bonds, and you believe that putting a kid in
Speaker 1: jail for that child is worse than the victim penalty
Speaker 1: inflicted upon the victim. We have a juvenile court judge
Speaker 1: Carrie Bloom, who's given talks on this subject. And what
Speaker 1: she says in juvenile court, I do not want to
Speaker 1: put black kids in jail. It's reparations, it's about slavery,
Speaker 1: it's about affirmative action, it's about DEEO. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put black kids in jail. And she said, by
Speaker 1: the way, a white female. But nonetheless she says, half
Speaker 1: the judges in Amity County do not sentence.
Speaker 2: Anyone to jail.
Speaker 1: We have another good judge, a friend of mine, Alison Hathaway,
Speaker 1: who released some eighteen and a half year old on
Speaker 1: a gun charge. She reduced it, and then six weeks
Speaker 1: later he kills a sixteen year old on OTR on
Speaker 1: her watch, and now that kid's going to face life imprisonment.
Speaker 1: So what do you do, Senator, If half the judges
Speaker 1: are more in Hamley County do not want to sentence
Speaker 1: anybody to jail and don't want to lock them up.
Speaker 1: They want them all along the streets, what do you
Speaker 1: say about that one?
Speaker 5: They got to go to them out. That's what you
Speaker 5: gotta do with people to do that, Bill is pretty
Speaker 5: This is pretty simple. It's not the people. We've got
Speaker 5: to start emphathizing with the victims and not the criminals. Okay,
Speaker 5: the victims of these crimes are in many cases people
Speaker 5: who live in who live in the city. They're typically
Speaker 5: not visitors. There are people who call Cincinnati home. And
Speaker 5: you're not protecting the innocent people of Cincinnati from the
Speaker 5: criminals in Cincinnati. And it doesn't take much. You start
Speaker 5: arresting people for committing crimes and putting them in jail,
Speaker 5: and that will send a message to other peoples, do
Speaker 5: not do this. Uh, it will act as a deterrent.
Speaker 5: But right now, if you send the message that if
Speaker 5: you commit a crime there will be no consequences, that
Speaker 5: is an incentive. That is that is basically saying, go
Speaker 5: ahead and commit crimes in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I wish it.
Speaker 5: I wish it. I wish admonishment and stern warnings were
Speaker 5: enough in the world.
Speaker 2: But they're not confrontations. We're going to We're going to.
Speaker 5: Confront on accountability. And that means that every once in
Speaker 5: a while. That means that every once in a while
Speaker 5: somebody is unfortunately going to go to jail and going
Speaker 5: to go to prison. But that sends the message that
Speaker 5: that behavior will not be tolerant. Tolerated. It becomes a
Speaker 5: community standard in which people follow it. Community standards are
Speaker 5: set by your leadership, your leadership and the law enforcement
Speaker 5: and your judges. And if they don't set a community
Speaker 5: standard that crime will not be tolerated, then they will
Speaker 5: set a community center by default that crime will be tolerated.
Speaker 1: Before we talk about the government shut down. Two different
Speaker 1: judges have told me that the af tad Peer of
Speaker 1: All the mayor at these endorsement opportunities for their Democratic
Speaker 1: liberal judges would always ask the question do you believe
Speaker 1: in the restorative justice? Do you believe in no cash bonds?
Speaker 1: And do you believe in treatment and lieu of incarceration.
Speaker 1: Unless the judges answer, I believe in all those things
Speaker 1: aftered Peer of All and the Hamilty County Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: you will not get the endorsement.
Speaker 2: And so on the bench.
Speaker 1: Now we have restorative justice thirty and forty year old,
Speaker 1: largely females who came out of the movement of jails
Speaker 1: or a waste of time, that jails hurt inmates more
Speaker 1: than they assist, and that we believe in restorative justice
Speaker 1: and therefore we won't send people to jail. And the
Speaker 1: Hamony Counties you know right now, Senator Hamlin County is
Speaker 1: teetering to becoming Chicago sortive justice.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a nice thing to say. You know,
Speaker 5: where you restore justice, you get people off the streets.
Speaker 5: You give justice to the victims. Okay first of all,
Speaker 5: and you know what we do in our prisons. We
Speaker 5: give people a chance to rehabilitate themselves. It's a department
Speaker 5: of rehabilitations, corrections. And once you're in prison, you can
Speaker 5: go still earn credentials to get a job. You can
Speaker 5: do all these things while you're in prisons, but you're
Speaker 5: off the streets keeping people safe when that's happening. That's
Speaker 5: how you restore somebody. You say, there's a consequence if
Speaker 5: you don't behave We'll give you a chance when you
Speaker 5: get out of here to go to work, because we're
Speaker 5: going to help you get a job, skill. But you're
Speaker 5: not going to be committing crimes on our street and
Speaker 5: making victim and and we're going to protect the victims.
Speaker 5: We're going to protect the standard of what it means.
Speaker 5: That's that's the way you do restorative justice.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, Senator, we have the government we deserve and we
Speaker 1: don't deserve if you keep voting for the same individuals
Speaker 1: anticipating a different result.
Speaker 2: Nothing's going to change. About a minute remaining.
Speaker 1: Can you give us an update on the government shutdown
Speaker 1: which Chuck Schumer demands to occur. It's happening, Republicans say
Speaker 1: a clean CR. Democrats won one point five trillion dollars
Speaker 1: are more spending. Give us an update on the shutdown.
Speaker 5: The Schumer shutdown continues. We're going to vote again today.
Speaker 5: This will be the ninth time that I will have
Speaker 5: voted to keep the government open, clean CR, keep funding
Speaker 5: at the current levels. But Chuck Schumer, really, he really
Speaker 5: exposed himself last week literally in the sense that he said, well,
Speaker 5: every day that the government shut down goes on, it's
Speaker 5: better for us, meaning Democrats. Well, you know what, that
Speaker 5: really exposes his motivation because it's really about politics to him.
Speaker 5: It's not the American people.
Speaker 2: It's not about.
Speaker 5: Whether our military get paid. It's not whether our air
Speaker 5: traffic controllers get paid. It's not whether our first responders
Speaker 5: get paid. It's whether Chuck Schumer can score political points
Speaker 5: and keep his job because he's scared of AOC running
Speaker 5: against him in a primary in New York. And so
Speaker 5: we're being we're being run by the radical left here
Speaker 5: in this nation right now, because it requires sixty votes
Speaker 5: Senate to get the government back open. We've had three
Speaker 5: Democrats vote with us. We just need five more. But
Speaker 5: we will not relent. We're not going to give in
Speaker 5: to him wanting to fund health care for illegal immigrants.
Speaker 5: We're not going to give in to his massive spending proposals.
Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna do this the right way. We're
Speaker 5: gonna remain strong.
Speaker 2: As long as it takes. But I hope things change
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We have an election in two and a half weeks,
Speaker 1: and if you don't change direction, you'll get more of
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Senator John, Yeah, go.
Speaker 5: Ahead, Bill, just just quickly. If you don't protect people
Speaker 5: and their property, they're gonna leave. They're gonna leave, Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: businesses will leave, people won't comfort to use your restaurants.
Speaker 5: And you've got to restore public order and protect the
Speaker 5: people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: You know, uh, Senator after a peer of all gives
Speaker 1: mouth service to that. He always talks My job one
Speaker 1: two and three is public safety, and if that's his
Speaker 1: job one two and three, he needs to be unemployed.
Speaker 1: So Senator John used to get my best everyone in Washington,
Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you,
Speaker 1: John Senator, thank you, thank you. All right, let's continue
Speaker 1: with more. It's up to you. The truth will set
Speaker 1: you free. Voting for the same anticipating different result is
Speaker 1: the definition of stupidity. Bill Cunningham, News Radio, seven hundreds WLW.
Speaker 8: My message to everybody, learn how to behave in our city,
Speaker 8: but especially learn how to behave in our downtown and
Speaker 8: our Fountain Square. Do not come down town, especially on
Speaker 8: Fountain Square if you don't know how to behave.
Speaker 2: And that's how it should be. And so that'd being said,
Speaker 2: I'll shut up and open it up with questions.
Speaker 9: Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 8: I see you, you see me, I see you.
Speaker 2: I'm watching you, sag.
Speaker 10: That's our ill tell you what will you? You're scared now,
Speaker 10: I tell you I'm not going downtown.
Speaker 5: Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm the chief of police.
Speaker 2: Like Gunsmoker the rifleman down there.
Speaker 1: I think my picture belongs on a Dutch paint can.
Speaker 1: I'm the chief of police. And if you misbehave, I
Speaker 1: see you, I know you. I'm gonna give you a time.
Speaker 2: They see you down there, time out. She sees you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a time out, okay, So please
Speaker 1: follow the law with breaking in the cars and shooting people.
Speaker 1: Because I see you and I'm concerned about you.
Speaker 2: Sig Man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. Say yeah, are you concerned?
Speaker 10: How many businesses are gonna be pulling out of down?
Speaker 2: Test all of them? Segment we have golfing royalty here?
Speaker 2: You sure do? Willie? Explain to me.
Speaker 1: Now we talk about state champions every now and every
Speaker 1: now and then Deer Park will go undefeed it on top?
Speaker 2: I mean, how many? How many is Zupper sell maryon one?
Speaker 2: Four in a row, four in rowd? I got another one.
Speaker 10: It's four consecutive, four consecutive state off state titles.
Speaker 2: Alter Knights are here. Segment introduced the coach and the players.
Speaker 10: Please will you let's see they shot a three hundred
Speaker 10: and fourteen. That's not good to win the Divis to
Speaker 10: Boys State Golf Championship at NCR Country Club.
Speaker 2: Their best player shot three hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 1: No, it is a team. Oh, a team a team
Speaker 1: event not It's not like how you cheat. But the
Speaker 1: coach is here, the team is here. So coach, taken away,
Speaker 1: Take it away, coach, You're right here.
Speaker 11: I'm Alex Suster, head coach of the Knights.
Speaker 2: And how many years have you been there, Alex.
Speaker 11: Is eleven years with the golf program.
Speaker 2: You're gonna stick whether.
Speaker 11: Or not, you know, I know we planned to go
Speaker 11: anywhere eleven.
Speaker 2: How many state titles have you won?
Speaker 11: Four in a row?
Speaker 1: Four in a row, and the Ryder Cup has got
Speaker 1: a hold of you. At PGA of America there are negotiating.
Speaker 11: Is better than it's going to be a negotiation.
Speaker 2: Could have done better at Beth Page Black with these kids.
Speaker 1: These kids introduce your players and who they are, their names,
Speaker 1: and plus have a few questions to ask later on.
Speaker 11: All right, awesome, so we have with this today. Junior
Speaker 11: Matthew Crush. He was also second team All state performer
Speaker 11: in last year's individual state champion in Division two.
Speaker 2: Matthew, what kind of putter do you have? If I
Speaker 2: have a tailor made spider.
Speaker 1: Spider, what is the what is the loft, what is
Speaker 1: the angle of the putter face?
Speaker 2: What is it way? What kind of grip do you have?
Speaker 2: I don't really know much about that story. You know
Speaker 2: how to put the ball in the like they put
Speaker 2: the ball in the hole.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the goal you shot us seventy nine, right,
Speaker 10: I did, Yes, there you go.
Speaker 2: I did you do it the second nine? I was
Speaker 2: playing better on the back nine the second day and
Speaker 2: that seventy nine tough golf course. Yeah? Did you move
Speaker 2: the ball on the rough at all? Did you cheat
Speaker 2: it all? I? No, he didn't do it all.
Speaker 1: Did you drop a ball out of your pant leg
Speaker 1: when you couldn't find it? Next up, coach, All right, we.
Speaker 11: Got Charlie Anderson Sier. He's also a second team All
Speaker 11: State performer this year.
Speaker 1: Charlie, A few questions for you right now? Who's the
Speaker 1: top golfer in the world. Who's number two?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 1: What is the recent successes? What are the last three
Speaker 1: tournaments won by Rory McElroy?
Speaker 2: Masters have Tubble Beach and the players very good. That
Speaker 2: kid's pretty smart.
Speaker 1: By the way, since you're so smart, what is the
Speaker 1: capital of the state of Pennsylvania?
Speaker 2: That's then Harisburg? Damn go ahead, coach, introduce some.
Speaker 11: More right, Third, I got uh confused? Looking one over
Speaker 11: there is Lucas Synos. He looks you looks yeah, senior
Speaker 11: at our was our foreman at the state tournament team.
Speaker 2: This year you're with the anchor something like that. Clean up,
Speaker 2: clean up, hit her. Who's the Attorney General in the
Speaker 2: United States of America. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh what is the square root of eighty one?
Speaker 2: At least continued.
Speaker 11: Coaching, he said, I finally we have our first alternate
Speaker 11: senior A J.
Speaker 2: Mahoney, Aj, how are you doing? I'm doing very good.
Speaker 2: Are you going to school after kettering? Altar? Where are
Speaker 2: you going to go? If anywhere? I planned to study
Speaker 2: business at University of Dayton, the home of the Flyers.
Speaker 1: Yes, don Donaghuer, Yes, say hi to him. When you
Speaker 1: say it, I think he's dead. Coach, So tell me
Speaker 1: in the last tell me how the tournament won. Tell
Speaker 1: me about the tournament.
Speaker 2: I won it all?
Speaker 11: Well, you know it was it was really great at
Speaker 11: being up at nts Our Country Club, which was of
Speaker 11: course we're a little bit more familiar with, and then
Speaker 11: some of the others. We went out and you know,
Speaker 11: just to play with a lot of confidence. Uh, you know,
Speaker 11: day one it was close. You know, we only had
Speaker 11: a had a shoe stroke victoria first round. And well,
Speaker 11: day two we went out and Dayton got pounded last
Speaker 11: Tuesday with like record setting rain.
Speaker 2: Like once in the whole summer is one of the.
Speaker 11: Most rain in like ninety four years that Dayton's gotten
Speaker 11: in the day. So we went out, we played. We
Speaker 11: knew after day one there was a chance Day two
Speaker 11: wasn't gonna happen, but they put us out there anyway.
Speaker 11: After a little delay, we played about half right exactly rain,
Speaker 11: and we we increased the lead to about nine strokes
Speaker 11: by the time they called play. We sat in the
Speaker 11: clubhouse for a couple of hours and then they they
Speaker 11: called it, and.
Speaker 2: We were determined.
Speaker 11: We were determined to be the champion.
Speaker 1: I asked a question of the seniors. Let's say your
Speaker 1: ball is near Let's say your ball is on the
Speaker 1: card path one hundred yards from the grand It's in
Speaker 1: the middle all the card path. Number one, Can you
Speaker 1: play it off the card path if you want to?
Speaker 2: Sir? Now, how do you take a drop? If you
Speaker 2: want to drop it from the card path? If it's
Speaker 2: in the middle of the card path, what do you do?
Speaker 2: If anything, find.
Speaker 5: Your nearest point no closer to the hole, and you
Speaker 5: get a stroke from the nearest point early you get.
Speaker 1: A club length from and you take you take your stance,
Speaker 1: then you get a club length from the ball, and
Speaker 1: then you drop the ball within that length.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 10: You said that happened to you the other day, and
Speaker 10: you just kicked it into the grass.
Speaker 2: I kicked it. I kept looking around, no one watching me.
Speaker 1: I kicked it in the It was like judge smail
Speaker 1: a caddy shack. Then go let me ask some more questions.
Speaker 1: Let's say you come up to a pond. You gotta
Speaker 1: come up to a pond, and one pond is marked
Speaker 1: with a red line. The other pond is marked with
Speaker 1: a yellow line. How's the red line different than the
Speaker 1: yellow line?
Speaker 2: You know, the red line? You can take. You've got
Speaker 2: a couple options.
Speaker 12: You can take the line of entry, you can take
Speaker 12: two club lengths from the point of entry, and you
Speaker 12: can also go back and play. You can play you
Speaker 12: can play from inside the red pell the area, and
Speaker 12: you can go back to where you hit the shop.
Speaker 2: What about a yellow line? What's the difference? You only
Speaker 2: get back on the line or the back of the line.
Speaker 2: Go back as far as you want to go back
Speaker 2: one hundred yards if you want flag the flag flagging
Speaker 2: the point of entry everyone knows. That's correct.
Speaker 10: I thought that was the amount of alligators that were
Speaker 10: in the pond. Been some alligators. Read there's baked ones yellow,
Speaker 10: their smaller ones. Give me some sports.
Speaker 1: I can make it fast out more questions to ask
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Speaker 1: Give me, I mean three of the five rights in
Speaker 1: the First Amendment the US Constitution, the freedom.
Speaker 2: Of what, press, assembly, speech. That's it right there, say
Speaker 2: please continue.
Speaker 11: Let's me answer to these questions or not.
Speaker 2: You're the coach. You don't know the answer, do you?
Speaker 2: What's in the eighth Amendment?
Speaker 11: Eighth Amendment? Usual punishment like.
Speaker 10: This, show your rat's while you're here. Cruel and unusual punishment.
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Speaker 2: Lancel Lance will take care of day frontest. This guy
Speaker 2: might be an alder boy.
Speaker 10: Let's see, Mike is SICKI the tight end is out
Speaker 10: for four games with a pectoral injury.
Speaker 2: All right, boys, what's a pectoral muscle? All right here
Speaker 2: up in your chest? Please continue.
Speaker 10: Shamar Stewart's gonna play. He's missed the last four with
Speaker 10: an ankle injury. And Andrew Whitworth is the ruler of
Speaker 10: the Jungles Tomorrow night. Do you think Tomorrow night at
Speaker 10: the Bengals. You might recall when the Bengals went to
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl, at one point there were two and four.
Speaker 10: This year, once again, they're two and four. They got
Speaker 10: the next three games at home. They win those three games.
Speaker 10: Add those up.
Speaker 2: What's the record down of the Bengals? Very good? Right there.
Speaker 1: That's why he's got a three hand plus three five
Speaker 1: and four, the same as twenty twenty one. Do you
Speaker 1: think Joe Flacco will be so good that Burrough's got
Speaker 1: to fight for his job when he comes back?
Speaker 2: I sure hope. So please continue college basketball?
Speaker 10: You see, graduate forward Jalen Haynes has been ruled out
Speaker 10: indefinitely for the Bearcats with an undisclosed lower body injury.
Speaker 10: He was heard in practice on Monday.
Speaker 2: Where's the humorous bone located rights? Very good? Please continue?
Speaker 10: The Bearcats play an exhibition game against Michigan Friday night.
Speaker 2: What are you liking that matchup? Boys? Give me the
Speaker 2: Wolvergines please mission.
Speaker 10: Red's infielders Spencer Steer and key Brian Hayes are both
Speaker 10: finalists for the Rawlings Gold Glove Award.
Speaker 2: Hayes did a great job at third, so did Steer.
Speaker 1: Who is the current NCAA Men's basketball champion College Division
Speaker 1: one men's basketball champion Florida?
Speaker 2: Very good? Who's the current football champion though? Buckeyes? Baby?
Speaker 2: Who's the current baseball champion tenn LSU. These kids are smart.
Speaker 2: Please continue.
Speaker 10: Let's see Willie Yoshi Yatamoto and you say that again.
Speaker 10: Tossed a complete game three hitter last night, Dodgers over
Speaker 10: the Brewers five to one. So La goes home now
Speaker 10: up two games to none in the NLCS. The ALCS
Speaker 10: continues tonight in Seattle. How many US Senators are there?
Speaker 10: The number?
Speaker 2: Please continue?
Speaker 10: And ALCS continues to night and with the Mariners up
Speaker 10: to or against the Jays?
Speaker 1: How many members House of Representatives three sixty two?
Speaker 2: Nope, born to thirty six five. That's it right there.
Speaker 2: But he's continue.
Speaker 10: College golf, Willie, we say congrats to Xavier. They won
Speaker 10: the Moraine and Intercollegiate Attorney in Dayton.
Speaker 2: Can you beat Xavior? They wound up at twenty under par.
Speaker 2: Can you beat twenty under? Yes?
Speaker 1: Why did you challenge the Musketeers at NCR and see
Speaker 1: what kind of men they are?
Speaker 2: You guys? Will you have them?
Speaker 10: Mountain freshman freshman Case Morgan out of Elder took home
Speaker 10: medalist honors at a seventy eight finish at nine under.
Speaker 2: It was the second president of the United States of America.
Speaker 2: Number two.
Speaker 10: Bearcat Cincinnai Bearcats men's golf team is sixth overall in
Speaker 10: a tournament in North and South Carolina.
Speaker 1: One of the three descriptions of rocks and geomorphology description.
Speaker 5: Of rocks.
Speaker 2: US sedimentary and metamorphic. Holy moly, I couldn't have got
Speaker 2: that of you. You can't say it and you can't spell.
Speaker 2: I can't thank you. I'm glad, I can't. Are you
Speaker 2: like national mayor scholarships?
Speaker 1: You're like a ds that you guys aren't smarter at Allogy?
Speaker 1: Do you love fluvial processes? I love that stuff? What
Speaker 1: great at the Grand Canyon Rose water fluvial?
Speaker 2: How about that? The three kinds of rocks came right
Speaker 2: out of him, rocks in his head. I guess you
Speaker 2: knows exactly what they are.
Speaker 4: Belo.
Speaker 1: We all that's it? Well, coach, Why does that look
Speaker 1: next year? For keddering Older went four in a row.
Speaker 1: How does it look next year?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 11: We're looking forward to next season. You know, every every
Speaker 11: new season brings new challenges. We're gonna miss these graduating players.
Speaker 11: We have actually twelve seniors in the program. Mere Lissa,
Speaker 11: we're losing this season. Don't rebuild your reload Yeah, that's
Speaker 11: the plan. You know, you've got young guys that are
Speaker 11: ready to ready to play up and do it, and
Speaker 11: you know we're looking forward to the challenges. I know,
Speaker 11: I know Matt wants to leave the team next year.
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods guys, we had to run. Wait come back
Speaker 1: next year. If you Wednesday title sounds good on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: You know, things changing radio.
Speaker 1: We had scheduled Britney Ruby Miller to be here at
Speaker 1: two of five, and she sent a very heartfelt apology
Speaker 1: about a half an hour ago that she said, something's
Speaker 1: come up at two o'clock and I can't be on.
Speaker 1: So I sent her back a next text saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I understand things happen, see what occurs, et cetera, and
Speaker 1: that's all I can do. And she wants to come
Speaker 1: on tomorrow to talk about what's happening today, But yours
Speaker 1: truly is going to take a week off. This my
Speaker 1: last day for the next seven days. So in a
Speaker 1: relationship to this, I made many many calls thither and
Speaker 1: fro to find out why what's happening at two o'clock
Speaker 1: Because the people I talked to all had the same thing.
Speaker 1: I can do it at three. I can't do it
Speaker 1: at two. I can do it tomorrow. I can't do
Speaker 1: it at too. Something's happening at two o'clock. And according
Speaker 1: to my horses in city Hall, the Chief of Police,
Speaker 1: Teresa Thigi is being fired or shall we say, retired,
Speaker 1: because she followed the dictates of the mayor to a letter,
Speaker 1: doing exactly what the mayor wanted. And now that she's
Speaker 1: followed the dictates of Cheryl Long and the mayor and
Speaker 1: things haven't turned out so well, the mayor is cutting
Speaker 1: loose the chief of police. A man with's perspective on
Speaker 1: this is Steve Gooden, a candidate for city council, has
Speaker 1: been on council before. Steve Gooden, Welcome again to the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And so I would ask you that
Speaker 1: I had five or six calls in the numerous people
Speaker 1: in the know, all of whom would tell me that
Speaker 1: today that the chief of Police, Teresa Thiji is getting fired.
Speaker 1: Your comments, well, I'm hearing the same thing, I believe,
Speaker 1: and it's a shame, but it's very predictable, and frankly
Speaker 1: it's long overdue. I mean, I was somebody who was
Speaker 1: out here this summer saying that she had to go.
Speaker 1: She's absolutely lost the confidence of the rank and file.
Speaker 1: The morale at police department is in the toilet. She
Speaker 1: has not been advocating for the right kinds of staffing
Speaker 1: for ever since she's been chief. She's been providing political
Speaker 1: cover for the mayor and the city manager and this
Speaker 1: kind of worthless city council that.
Speaker 4: We have right now. So if you're going to live
Speaker 4: by the sword, you die of the sword. If you're
Speaker 4: going to act like a political person rather than the
Speaker 4: civil servant you're supposed to be, if you're not going
Speaker 4: to advocate for your troops and rank and file, and
Speaker 4: you're going to play the political game, then I guess
Speaker 4: you die of political death. So she has become a
Speaker 4: national joke, particularly.
Speaker 2: With that bizarre.
Speaker 4: Press conference she gave him down at City Hall where
Speaker 4: she said the word unacceptable five times, reminding me of
Speaker 4: my middle school teacher who used to shout unacceptable of
Speaker 4: me rightfully in the early eighties. And it was just terrible.
Speaker 4: It looked like she was trying to scold these young,
Speaker 4: violent people into giving up their guns. The other beautiful
Speaker 4: things she did yesterday was telling the guy to turn
Speaker 4: it who shot up the restaurant to turn himself in.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's really inclined to do that since
Speaker 4: she is already a convicted felon. So she looks sweet.
Speaker 4: She's set a horrible example, both on the politics side
Speaker 4: and just the way she comports herself. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't want to sound like Pete Hegstratt here, but she
Speaker 4: doesn't look like you know. She's not inspiring confidence from
Speaker 4: any standard, whether it be from the physical fitness standards,
Speaker 4: all the way down. They deserve better, They need better.
Speaker 4: They need a chief who will actually be independent and
Speaker 4: stand up to the mayor. The chief doesn't work for
Speaker 4: the mayor in our system, so they don't.
Speaker 1: But I've been told by many officers she's lost the
Speaker 1: respect of her command staff. They don't pay attention to her.
Speaker 1: That the cops are overwhelmed with work. Sixty hours a
Speaker 1: week is presumed to be demanded. Many cops don't want
Speaker 1: to do it, they don't feel supported. But the unknown
Speaker 1: about this, I would assume as the last three or
Speaker 1: four years have gone by, I think she's been there
Speaker 1: about three years, I would assume everything she did, despite
Speaker 1: her bad form and doing so is something I have
Speaker 1: to have. Pierraval want it done. And now that it did,
Speaker 1: his policies did not turn out well, he wants to
Speaker 1: step aside and eat a sacrificial lamb, and that lamb
Speaker 1: is chief of police.
Speaker 2: Thiji your comments.
Speaker 4: No, I think that's absolutely correct. I mean, look, she's
Speaker 4: a victim here. I mean, she participated in her own victimhood.
Speaker 4: She knew better than this of most of it. And look,
Speaker 4: I like her. I've known her for years. And the
Speaker 4: family is great. There's a lot of officers in that
Speaker 4: family are a great you know, west side family, and
Speaker 4: no disrespect to them at all. But I mean, you know, look,
Speaker 4: this is not this is all aft to have. He
Speaker 4: goes out and talks about quote his team, and he
Speaker 4: includes her, includes a city manager, and they're supposed to
Speaker 4: be politely adversarial. I mean, the city manager is supposed
Speaker 4: to be advocating, you know, for the chief, for the police.
Speaker 4: They're not all supposed to be working together. In fact,
Speaker 4: it's very timely. Just this morning, I open my mailbox
Speaker 4: and I have a mailer from one of the city
Speaker 4: council candidates where he's posing with the chief in uniform,
Speaker 4: which is blatantly illegal. She's like in a political mailer,
Speaker 4: a paid political mailer. And I was thinking, you know,
Speaker 4: if I had the time and energy, we file a complaint.
Speaker 4: But since I figured she was getting fired today, we're
Speaker 4: not going to bother with it. But I mean, that's
Speaker 4: how bad it is and how political it is. The
Speaker 4: great chiefs of yesteryear wouldn't dream to be in a
Speaker 4: political ad. What's an elected official? So that's just how
Speaker 4: bad and blurry the lines are down there. And that's
Speaker 4: why I do worry who's next. I don't really have
Speaker 4: a good sense of that. Every time with this current group,
Speaker 4: you think they're making a step in the right direction,
Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of a be careful what you
Speaker 4: wish for a thing. I have no idea who they
Speaker 4: have lined up behind her at this point. But this
Speaker 4: is a sad day for her. It's a sad day
Speaker 4: for the city. But it's very predictable. So again, she
Speaker 4: made herself a political actor. She's going to die of
Speaker 4: political death here.
Speaker 1: It looks like, well, it's sad because she was put
Speaker 1: in a position that she's not really qualify for. She
Speaker 1: performed poorly because she implemented the policies of after pure
Speaker 1: of all the policy has now been implemented. They failed,
Speaker 1: and now the sheriff is stepping up. I had on
Speaker 1: earlier Senator John Houston. They're close to calling in the
Speaker 1: National Guard because of jd Vance and Euston is very
Speaker 1: close to the situation and we don't want that. And
Speaker 1: the sheriff wants to take over and do more police
Speaker 1: functioning in the city because the city command staff and
Speaker 1: the officers do not respect Fiji. And part of the
Speaker 1: problem also is that the judges at Hamlet County. You
Speaker 1: may now had on Judge Josh Berkerwitz a couple hours ago.
Speaker 1: He's the presiding judge. Half the judges believe because of
Speaker 1: George Floyd effect. Half the judges believe, you know, and
Speaker 1: no cash bonds. Half the judges believe in putting nobody
Speaker 1: in jail. What about that element, Well.
Speaker 4: That's a huge part of what's going on here, and
Speaker 4: a lot of that goes right back to Aftab too.
Speaker 4: When he was clerk at Gortz, he was pushing these
Speaker 4: judicial candidates, he was pushing these kinds of policies. He
Speaker 4: ran the courthouse into the ground. He's doing this too.
Speaker 4: And look This is the same stuff you know that
Speaker 4: you saw out at in Washington State, in Portland and
Speaker 4: in California, and all these kinds of policies are being
Speaker 4: rejected out there too. I mean, they just don't work.
Speaker 4: No matter how well meaning they are, they don't work.
Speaker 4: You can't keep it committee. You cannot keep a community
Speaker 4: safe by letting violent people out. This guy who the
Speaker 4: guy that David announced his name, the guy who shot
Speaker 4: up the restaurant of Fountains Square two nights ago. We
Speaker 4: know he was on probation for a gun offence, you know,
Speaker 4: weapons under disability charge. So I mean, so he shouldn't
Speaker 4: have been out, arguably, or at least they should have
Speaker 4: known exactly where he was, so that the courthouse and
Speaker 4: the city all at all, the failures all overlap, and
Speaker 4: it's the same personnel.
Speaker 2: Really, all right, we got to run.
Speaker 1: I have mayor candidate Corey Bowman calling in and Steve Gooden,
Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thanks for Colin, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: the call. Thank you anytime. Thank you, sir. Let's continue.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the mayor to be Corey Bowman. Corey,
Speaker 1: and every indications are that the chief of police Thiegi
Speaker 1: is going to be fired. Head guests on at two
Speaker 1: o'clock and this critical meeting I was told off the air. Yes,
Speaker 1: assuming that's the case, what is your reaction as the
Speaker 1: man who would be mayor?
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's exactly what you said, is that
Speaker 7: you know, Chief Sigi was just implementing her directives from
Speaker 7: the top down. You know we've started this from the
Speaker 7: top down. There is incompetence and so everybody wants to
Speaker 7: throw the chief underneath the bus right thing is is
Speaker 7: that this is reflecting the failure of city Hall starting
Speaker 7: with Mayor a Fat Purval.
Speaker 1: And as far as the news conference yesterday, I think
Speaker 1: the mayor conceded as policies have not worked. They have
Speaker 1: not worked the past four years. They're not going to
Speaker 1: work into the future. And just before the election they
Speaker 1: need a scapegoat, and that scapegoat is a career company
Speaker 1: named Thiji, and they want to blame her, Cheryl Long,
Speaker 1: and I would assume counsel and the Mayor used and
Speaker 1: abused her to implement their policies and now that they've failed,
Speaker 1: they want to hook it on her step aside and
Speaker 1: appoint someone else.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You're exactly right. But here's the thing that we have
Speaker 7: to see as is that with the mayor after Burval
Speaker 7: in office, you're going to have the same legit. You're
Speaker 7: going to have the same reasoning when it comes to
Speaker 7: the next chief, when it comes to the city manager.
Speaker 7: These policies don't stop with just the firing of a
Speaker 7: police chief. These policies have been implemented the last four years,
Speaker 7: and you're seeing a lot of the crime that's going
Speaker 7: to be taken care of in the next few days
Speaker 7: for optics. But what do you think is going to
Speaker 7: happen after November. It's not an election year anymore, so
Speaker 7: they're going to go right back to these failed policies
Speaker 7: until the next election season. And I don't think that's right.
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, Assuming you win the mayor's office, and many
Speaker 1: knowledgeable people say you have a pretty good shot at it,
Speaker 1: what would you look for in the next chief of police.
Speaker 7: You've got to be able to look at not only
Speaker 7: only people that have the competence of knowing what they're
Speaker 7: doing on the streets, but I really believe that you've
Speaker 7: got to bring somebody in that knows Cincinnati, that knows
Speaker 7: the issues. You can't necessarily have just a parachute position
Speaker 7: come in and fix everything. Cincinnati is a very rare,
Speaker 7: unique city with Citty two neighborhoods. Logistically, you've got to
Speaker 7: have somebody that knows what they're doing when it comes
Speaker 7: to that. But at the same time, you have to
Speaker 7: have somebody that knows the issues that we're facing right now.
Speaker 7: Five people shot on Monday night two and Fountain Square.
Speaker 7: These are things that have to be taken care of
Speaker 7: from day one. They can't just be something that we
Speaker 7: gradually get into. We've got to hit this thing head off.
Speaker 1: In a sense, Cincinnati's at the low EBB. But I'm
Speaker 1: told by some that Procter and Gambles grossly expanding their
Speaker 1: footprint in Mason. There are many big employers in town
Speaker 1: like Fifth Third Bank and Kroger and others that tell
Speaker 1: their employees if you're if you're don't feel safe coming
Speaker 1: and leaving work, you may stay at home and work there.
Speaker 1: And I think there goes the tax base of the
Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. Restaurant tours have told me reservations are
Speaker 1: being canceled. Willy Nilly. I'm told there's no hotel being
Speaker 1: built next to the convention Center because they can't get
Speaker 1: financing because many of the banks around the country don't
Speaker 1: want to finance it. In case things aren't going well,
Speaker 1: Two large conventions have canceled at the new convention Center
Speaker 1: to open up in January or February without a hotel
Speaker 1: next to it. Conventions are canceling, and the idea that
Speaker 1: public safety should be a job one when it comes
Speaker 1: to setting a bond is something that judges ignore, willy nilly.
Speaker 1: And So if you become the mayor and don't have
Speaker 1: a working council with you, and I don't anticipate that
Speaker 1: council is going to stay the same, It's going to
Speaker 1: be completely different. How will you work with a council
Speaker 1: filled with Democrats and you're going to be the Republican mayor?
Speaker 2: How would that work?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 7: Number one, it's not just the mayoral race. We've got
Speaker 7: to be able to see that. We've got a city
Speaker 7: council candidate that are running this year. Last time we
Speaker 7: had ten cans. It's running this year we have twenty five.
Speaker 7: We've got people like Christopher Smithman, We've got people like
Speaker 7: Linda Matthews, We've got people like Steve Gooden that running,
Speaker 7: they're gonna know how to handle this. And like you said,
Speaker 7: if you do have the majority Democrats, I believe that
Speaker 7: there's enough common sense where we can actually work together
Speaker 7: to solve these issues. But you have to have leadership
Speaker 7: in place, in a strong mayor position that knows this
Speaker 7: has to be a priority. It just can't be on
Speaker 7: the backbron.
Speaker 1: Well, now's the time and the mayor's acting politically. Having
Speaker 1: had someone to implement his polic policies, he can't come
Speaker 1: out and say, my policies have failed. I'm going to
Speaker 1: rescind my re election effort. I have failed. I'm going
Speaker 1: to go back into the private sector. He's got to
Speaker 1: find an excuse for the failures of his policy, and
Speaker 1: that excuse is Teresa Thiji, whose huntire family have been
Speaker 1: cops for the last fifty years. And she doesn't look
Speaker 1: the part, doesn't act the part, and the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is she's doing in a substantively exactly what
Speaker 1: the mayor wants her to do. And sharel Long allegedly's
Speaker 1: her boss. Share Along. You can't find her with a
Speaker 1: search warrant, and so where in the hell of share Along?
Speaker 7: No, you're exactly right, because here's the thing. We've got
Speaker 7: to have leadership that just doesn't show up for photo ops.
Speaker 7: We've got to have leadership that shows up for Cincinnati
Speaker 7: from day one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. As I said, this
Speaker 1: is not confirmed yet. Everyone I talked to says she's
Speaker 1: going to get a copy of the home game sometime
Speaker 1: this afternoon, and they're going to point an interim chief
Speaker 1: that might be Captain Henny, might be someone like that
Speaker 1: to implement the mayor's policies, which change after every riot,
Speaker 1: or after every shooting, or after every mass shooting event,
Speaker 1: the policies of the mayor change. And right now we're
Speaker 1: on the eve of the election, and Corey Bubman, none
Speaker 1: of this will be going on right now if the
Speaker 1: election we're not like two and a half weeks away.
Speaker 1: But Corey will see what happens, and you're going to
Speaker 1: campaign hard through the finish line.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, We've got less than three weeks to go. Early
Speaker 7: votings open right now. People need to get the border
Speaker 7: to the Board of Election, Tamilton County Board of Elections, Vote, vote, vote.
Speaker 7: But then November fourth is our last day of the election.
Speaker 7: And this is our time to base to be able
Speaker 7: to put strong leadership in place. You know, one of
Speaker 7: the biggest things is that we have a shortage of
Speaker 7: cops when it comes to being below the complement levels,
Speaker 7: and they implemented a lateral hiring recently and they didn't
Speaker 7: get the response that they wanted because nobody wants to
Speaker 7: work for this administration. You get the right leadership, you
Speaker 7: get a strong mayor in that position, then people are
Speaker 7: going to come and they're going to want to work
Speaker 7: for Cincinnati Police Department. That's what's going to change in November.
Speaker 1: You know, is really sick when the chief of police says,
Speaker 1: if you're committing serious crime, we're going to confront you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't confront it serious criminal. I'd arrest them. I'd
Speaker 1: say you're under arrest. And the reason some arrest are
Speaker 1: down is because twenty percent of the cops don't exist.
Speaker 1: And when you're down twenty percent of the cops, there's
Speaker 1: no one to arrest anybody. And the cops that are
Speaker 1: in office don't want to get hands on with any
Speaker 1: they're encouraged not to arrest people. And so of course
Speaker 1: crime is going to be statistically down as far as
Speaker 1: reporting when cops don't exist to arrest someone and the
Speaker 1: other cops aren't pulling people over because they're told not
Speaker 1: to do that. A course, crime is going to be down,
Speaker 1: but the commission of crime is way up. Reporting of
Speaker 1: crime is down, commission of crime is way up. And
Speaker 1: we need to go back to the law enforcement of
Speaker 1: Larry Whalen and also a striker and people like that
Speaker 1: that enforce the law and let the chips fall with them. Ay,
Speaker 1: then if the judges don't do their job, then we
Speaker 1: got something else to focus on. It begins with cops
Speaker 1: arresting criminals. Corey Bowman, good luck. I'll continue to follow
Speaker 1: this story to see if and when Chief of Police
Speaker 1: Stichi gets a copy of the home game.
Speaker 2: And Corey Bowman, thank you very much.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Bill for having me.
Speaker 1: God bless Let's continue with more. He's in his coffee
Speaker 1: shop on the West End right now, people coming and going.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. At two thirty and three
Speaker 1: o'clock and I had Brittany Ruby scheduled to two. She
Speaker 1: texted me about one fifteen saying something came up I
Speaker 1: can't get out of At two o'clock, I called four
Speaker 1: or five other people involved in their running of the city.
Speaker 1: Each one of them sent me a text saying, I
Speaker 1: can do it at three o'clock. I can do it
Speaker 1: at three fifteen. I can do it tomorrow, but I
Speaker 1: can't do it at too. And I talked to a
Speaker 1: police source who told me that Thieji's going to be
Speaker 1: fired this afternoon. And by the way, she's supposed to
Speaker 1: be in Denver right now for three or four days
Speaker 1: of a chief of Police conference. So that's perfect. The
Speaker 1: city is burning down, and then the city sends the
Speaker 1: chief of police one thousand miles away two twenty five.
Speaker 1: Coming up after two thirty five is Justice Joseph TNT
Speaker 1: Deaters with his walk up music on news radio seven
Speaker 1: hundred wlw F.
Speaker 9: Hello, Piet, I'm spokes I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 2: You know rock.
Speaker 1: We have a special Justice Joe Eaters. You need the
Speaker 1: best from coloida An. He's here ready to march and
Speaker 1: glory and sees power once again.
Speaker 2: He wants to talk. He wants to talk, all right,
Speaker 2: talk him talk. Sharon Kennedy said, don't talk. Megan Shannan says,
Speaker 2: talk talk. Let me let her rip. I'm going quiet
Speaker 2: down here. Comes the music. Here comes a good part
Speaker 2: for jobs right now the sunset color TVs.
Speaker 13: Oh boy, boys, oh boy, there's two of us in here.
Speaker 13: Now I've finally got some backup talking about your lies.
Speaker 1: Women can't talk about women anymore, Joe, her.
Speaker 2: Women days are done done. Here come here comes the
Speaker 2: hook for the hook because I'm yeah, yeah, Joe. What
Speaker 2: brings you here?
Speaker 1: I know we need you to see you and Charlie
Speaker 1: Lucan or John Cranley would be great. And what brings
Speaker 1: you to the hallways of the Big One.
Speaker 2: You told me to come in.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: Nothing else to do. I'll get you in trouble. There
Speaker 2: is a lot going on right now. Public safety. What
Speaker 2: does that mean? Public safety? Explain that? Can you talk
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 14: A little bit, But here's what I will say. And
Speaker 14: I know I've got a little bit of a gag
Speaker 14: on me right now. Everybody knows what works. They'll know
Speaker 14: Atab's not an idiot. These judges aren't idiots. They know
Speaker 14: what works. They're just not willing to do it because
Speaker 14: of the.
Speaker 2: George Floyda facts. Well, they just they believe that.
Speaker 14: I guess they believe their constituency does not want them
Speaker 14: to do.
Speaker 2: It, to do it put people in jail for crime.
Speaker 14: I mean, it's amazing to me. I heard you with
Speaker 14: Judge Berkowitz before. They've got two hundred and some beds
Speaker 14: empty in the We were trying to build jails when
Speaker 14: I was there.
Speaker 2: Now you're evacuating them.
Speaker 14: Now they're laying off, you know, people working in the
Speaker 14: jail because they don't have people there.
Speaker 2: Why aren't there people? I don't know.
Speaker 14: The judges if you're remember, if you remember, and it's
Speaker 14: not just a Democrat thing or a Republican thing. We
Speaker 14: had a Republican Chief Justice four years ago who decided
Speaker 14: that judges should not consider safety when they set a
Speaker 14: bond an arraignment.
Speaker 2: And what did we have to do?
Speaker 14: We had to get a constitutional amendment on the ballot
Speaker 14: to say that judges shall consider the safety of the community.
Speaker 2: And what are you doing? They ignore it? And I
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 1: What did they say? Give lip service? Yes, I consider that,
Speaker 1: no bond signed your name, You're gone.
Speaker 14: Well, the only the only recourses to uh not elect them.
Speaker 14: And unless you have the information on the judges doing that,
Speaker 14: you have no ability.
Speaker 2: To Are you happy with what you're doing now? And
Speaker 2: they are I love it.
Speaker 14: I'm very frustrated when I watched to see what's happening
Speaker 14: in my city and.
Speaker 2: Want to come back sees Power.
Speaker 14: No no, I mean if Missy Powers did her best
Speaker 14: to win that race and the demographics have changed, and
Speaker 14: you know, I think comedy's doing what she can do now.
Speaker 1: And you didn't bring this up, but Saint X. I
Speaker 1: was at dinner the other night at Trios and an
Speaker 1: old guy had to be in it had to be
Speaker 1: in his late seventies or eighties. An old guy comes
Speaker 1: up to me and says, you know, I was the
Speaker 1: athletic director at Saint X where Rocky Boyman played at
Speaker 1: Saint X and he was a student. I said, what
Speaker 1: kind of student was He said, well, he had a
Speaker 1: lot of jugs. In fact, we had the Board of Education,
Speaker 1: which was a paddle had holes in it.
Speaker 2: Said.
Speaker 1: Board of Education used to give Rocky one or two
Speaker 1: a week, but each time he demanded pull his pants
Speaker 1: down before he got it so that he would feel
Speaker 1: more pain. Did you have any of those experiences?
Speaker 2: Jug? I hid indefinite jug.
Speaker 1: At one point ever, paddle like Rocky was no remember
Speaker 1: any of that stuff, but better memory your forgot.
Speaker 2: He was a better student than I was. I really wasn't,
Speaker 2: he said, He said.
Speaker 1: You were such a good student. You helped other f
Speaker 1: students get out of the dummy hall. Did that happen?
Speaker 2: Helped them?
Speaker 14: We went to I went to a sat X reunion
Speaker 14: this summer, okay, and these very wealthy guys are at
Speaker 14: this reunion that went to sant X with me, and
Speaker 14: I didn't recognize any of them. And I quickly realized
Speaker 14: the reason is I was in the dumb classes at
Speaker 14: st X and these guys were into smart classes that
Speaker 14: I had introduced myself to him.
Speaker 1: You know, we tell tell me when you were tied
Speaker 1: to a goalpost. Never did that, and also gave the finger.
Speaker 14: I gave the finger on the sophomore the reserve football picture.
Speaker 2: We have that pictures that live anywhere. It still does live.
Speaker 14: But they they back then, they.
Speaker 2: Did their best, smudged out. It was not good. But
Speaker 2: you got permanent jugs. They told me to report the
Speaker 2: jug until we tell you to stop. What do you do?
Speaker 2: What do you report the jug? What is that that
Speaker 2: way to get it?
Speaker 14: It's like you know, detention and flash get yeah, just
Speaker 14: sit there and clar just kind of grunt work right lines, Yeah,
Speaker 14: toothbrush and toilet well, and in the theme of what
Speaker 14: we're talking about here is Joe just said earlier the
Speaker 14: problem that is right in the city, everyone knows what
Speaker 14: to do, but they're unwilling to do it, which is
Speaker 14: to have punishments for crimes.
Speaker 2: Jugs was was a punishment if.
Speaker 13: You were acting wrong, that's right, you had to go
Speaker 13: do some things you didn't want to do and then
Speaker 13: guess what, not only did you not want to do
Speaker 13: that again, the other kids saw it and said, well,
Speaker 13: I don't want to end up in jug like Torush
Speaker 13: showed deaters and Rocky boyman, I'm going to behave.
Speaker 14: You know there there has been one thing that's worked
Speaker 14: with urban crime, and that was, you know, whatever you
Speaker 14: think of Rudy Giuliani, what he did in the two
Speaker 14: thousands with New York City, late nineties with New York
Speaker 14: City that broken windows theory and where the with the
Speaker 14: different captains that very precinct are held responsible in a
Speaker 14: track crime, I'm in real time. They say there's this
Speaker 14: hot spot here, there's been twelve break ins. They flood
Speaker 14: the area with cops and they really did stop what
Speaker 14: was going on in New York.
Speaker 2: Well, nowhere else has that happened.
Speaker 14: And if you want to know what's going to happen
Speaker 14: to our city, which I love and I live in,
Speaker 14: it's not hard to predict because it's happened across the
Speaker 14: country with these types of policies that are in effect
Speaker 14: right now in the city.
Speaker 1: Segment, give me some sports and make it fast. We've
Speaker 1: got more information about Henryson maybe going to the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers.
Speaker 2: What can you tell me?
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Speaker 1: Spotch Justice Kennedy sending you a note to quiet down.
Speaker 1: Yes see, speaking of that, can I can you show
Speaker 1: that a woman named Jordan Hudson Rocky You.
Speaker 2: Talk about her a lot, don't you. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: you talk about my nephew with her.
Speaker 14: So I was at a deater's wedding this weekend, North Carolina,
Speaker 14: and she's a friend of the brides.
Speaker 2: They live very close to each other. Hudson and Bill
Speaker 2: the wedding started at five o'clock.
Speaker 14: So I have to preface the story with this. The
Speaker 14: wedding started at five o'clock. Now pretend you're at a wedding.
Speaker 13: He is more excited than I've seen him in years,
Speaker 13: by the way I understand.
Speaker 2: Met her five o'clock. It started. How long would you
Speaker 2: last at that route? Eight o'clock? I'm done? Ok, eight o'clock,
Speaker 2: that's what I thought. I'm done.
Speaker 14: I lasted till nine, that's it. And around ten I
Speaker 14: get a text from my brothers. Leave, guess who just
Speaker 14: showed up? Jordan Hudson correct Belichick, No, he was traveling.
Speaker 14: But the reports are that she was a delightful, very
Speaker 14: very nice young girl. I mean four years old and rich,
Speaker 14: well whatever she is, but she was very cool. So
Speaker 14: I sent my other picture of you. I said, I
Speaker 14: want you to show her this picture. God, yes, I
Speaker 14: want to show this picture because he talks about you
Speaker 14: on the radio all the time. Showed to her, and
Speaker 14: I want you to write down exactly her reaction when
Speaker 14: she saw your picture.
Speaker 11: I have it.
Speaker 2: I know what I memorized. The response. I love to
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 14: No, no, no, I'll tell you I love She looked
Speaker 14: at your picture.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 14: She looked at your picture and said, e.
Speaker 2: E w W. But that's all sorry, you're trying to
Speaker 2: what do you mean by? What do you mean by?
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like.
Speaker 10: It was like, I don't think she thought you would
Speaker 10: look like Ronaldo that when that Ronald, my wife says,
Speaker 10: I look like Naldo said.
Speaker 13: Joe, let's cut to the chase. Heer your nephew or
Speaker 13: whoever was did they say? She looks as good as
Speaker 13: she does in person. She does like pictures and she
Speaker 13: was just could not have been sweeter. I know what
Speaker 13: she's getting out of the Belichick relationship. What's he getting
Speaker 13: out of it?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Oh you have an idea. Well,
Speaker 2: he was in a Volkswagen with Penny. I know that
Speaker 2: is I don't. I just learned that information today, which
Speaker 2: I could have done without. Give me some sports.
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Speaker 2: I said at the show, what about Hendryson going to
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers? I don't I have it right here?
Speaker 10: Andrew Whitworth, former Bengals great number seventy seven, is going
Speaker 10: to be ruler of the jungle.
Speaker 2: Can you put on a hell and shoulder pads? Might
Speaker 2: as well try it an still block. Mike is SICKI
Speaker 2: the tight end is on. I injured reserve for four games?
Speaker 2: With that peck peck? What's a peck right there? Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson has a couple of Red's update.
Speaker 10: Red's infielder Spencer Steer and key Brian Hayes are both
Speaker 10: named finalists for the Gold Glove Awards at third base
Speaker 10: and first base.
Speaker 2: Good luck did Ellie? Is he up for the Gold
Speaker 2: Glove Award now? With sixty seven? What errors in two years?
Speaker 2: The Brown Glove Award? Which one's he up? Probably he
Speaker 2: belongs in right field. You're a great joe right center,
Speaker 2: center center, and I'm gonna move right all right? Can
Speaker 2: you do that? Sake? I'll call Terry world class shortstop.
Speaker 2: Moved him over there. What's his name like Arroyo? Is
Speaker 2: that his name? Edward?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: And then what about mcclaan. Can you actually hit it?
Speaker 2: At some point we'll see? How about third base? What
Speaker 2: about Sal? What can Sal? Wh'res Sal? Just call Sally?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's gonna you guys that can hit. It makes sense.
Speaker 2: They need some guys that can. We need some guys
Speaker 2: that can wors Warbur. That would be a good addition.
Speaker 1: Man in Middletown. Is you run around with him in
Speaker 1: the off season and he's got enough money, get all
Speaker 1: the money in the world.
Speaker 2: Can't tell you what we're doing. Trade Li for Bryce Harper?
Speaker 2: Straight up? Let's go what I trade for? About Hunter Green?
Speaker 2: What about Hunter Green? Green? Definitely done? Joe.
Speaker 1: What's the big decisions in the Supreme Court? The rule
Speaker 1: of against perpect.
Speaker 14: To violate all my right now in the air, not
Speaker 14: doing it. We can tell me about shelleyities nothing.
Speaker 10: Well, then you could come and fill in for him
Speaker 10: for a week on the show, and then you can
Speaker 10: say anything you.
Speaker 2: Want next week. Are you suspending going tomorrow for a week?
Speaker 2: Then spend it for a week playing golf and naked.
Speaker 2: Couldn't suspend it again? Rock, what's on the big show
Speaker 2: today for you? Besides Thiji maybe getting fired? What about that? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Yeah, Jason and I talked about that yesterday. But let
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Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson deserves that. A man like me, a man
Speaker 1: wants to smell like a man. Remember it was Remember
Speaker 1: it was very boom and right at the gate. We
Speaker 1: have his name's escaping. But we have a guy from
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation. I'm going to talk about the big game.
Speaker 1: What about Mike Tomlin saying, how in the world can
Speaker 1: Cleveland trade its opening day starter to a division rival
Speaker 1: just before we play them?
Speaker 2: How's that possible?
Speaker 1: Mike tom mad too. He said they had this guy
Speaker 1: named Jake the Snake Browning. He was throwing more interceptions
Speaker 1: and completed passes. Now we got to deal with Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco again. It was so good that possibly he'll be
Speaker 1: replacing Joe Burrow. He'll be a quarterback controversy. Wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be something?
Speaker 13: No competition's good, right, He's twenty one and you know
Speaker 13: Earls thirty next year.
Speaker 1: They're about the same age by the time you're in
Speaker 1: your seventies. She should quit working anyway.
Speaker 13: You know, the combined age of the quarterbacks playing on
Speaker 13: Thursday night is eighty one.
Speaker 2: That's kind of old, isn't it. It's pretty old, Joe?
Speaker 2: Is that too old?
Speaker 7: Not?
Speaker 2: Apparently?
Speaker 5: Not?
Speaker 11: All right?
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming into this has been great, great insight,
Speaker 2: Joe into the city, the police, everything.
Speaker 1: We love Hudson. I love your thoughts, Jordan, Hudson. Why
Speaker 1: why didn't you stick around to meet her?
Speaker 14: I didn't know she was showing up. You would have stayed.
Speaker 14: You go to call, but you knew she was coming.
Speaker 2: Not you? I think I would have left. Oh, I
Speaker 2: love to love. Would you have stayed?
Speaker 4: Bill?
Speaker 11: Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Would you have stayed? Are you kidding?
Speaker 13: Heaven and Earth wouldn't have kept him from staying meeting Jordan.
Speaker 2: She is this thing. Would you would have stalked her?
Speaker 2: She does have a thing for you.
Speaker 13: You know, every year you do your your most often
Speaker 13: had guests.
Speaker 2: She is your most often topic.
Speaker 1: If her on someone's got you know, somebody has her number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love to get her on. That will never happen.
Speaker 13: Remember Willy you No, No.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's something there. Here's the deal, Hendrickson.
Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a chance.
Speaker 1: You're saying there's a chance, is what you're saying. Here's dumber, dumber,
Speaker 1: more like a million say give me out of the
Speaker 1: sutureport Justice Joe and Rocky to wonderful Joe, rock the
Speaker 1: Board of Education.
Speaker 10: Willian Hotter of Justice, Joe making to stay his triumphant
Speaker 10: return to the airway.
Speaker 2: Now that's right. Can you walk into the courthouse and
Speaker 2: anyone know who you are? Nobody knows me anymore? You
Speaker 2: walk in.
Speaker 14: Coming to this guy what his opinion has hit though
Speaker 14: they know that like lightning bolts in the finger.
Speaker 10: Of Zeus, we leave you with immortal words of the
Speaker 10: Stooge Report.
Speaker 2: At some point, this foolishness has got to stop.
Speaker 1: There's our friend, Mike Dewan. Here's Rocky Boyman. He loves,
Speaker 1: he loves, loves the governor.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Sure, he's a good man, good man. He is a
Speaker 2: good man, good man.
Speaker 1: Rocky loves him. Say you love him always. Let's continue
Speaker 1: with more, and we never stop. We simply continue.
Speaker 2: The suspension starts today for one week until in Naples
Speaker 2: and I'm back next Friday. Learn your lesson and shut
Speaker 2: your mouth, Fiji.
Speaker 1: Do what he tells you to do, and when you
Speaker 1: do it and it fails, I'm gonna blame you, not me.
Speaker 2: Girls for THEE but not me On seven hundred W
Speaker 2: l W