1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham the Grand American and welcomed this. A Wednesday 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: afternoon in the tri State, the weather is perking once again, 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: but Saturday and Sunday rain is predicted. 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Plus tomorrow night. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: The Steelers in town, the Bengalley's are what two and 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: four they win the next three games or five and four? 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: They were five and four when they went to the 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So I have hope. I have hope and 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco and I have hoped that maybe there'll be 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy, that Flacca will be so good that 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Burrows can't get his job back if he comes back 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: in December. 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: That's my hope. 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: But until then, we have serious problems in the River City. 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: I have Senator Euston coming up later. I have Britney 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Ruby coming up later. I have Justice Joe Dieters coming 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: up later, plus my commentary. But until then, Judge Joshua Berkowitz. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Judge Burkowitz is the presiding judge of Hemny County Municipal Court. 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: And for those who may not know that, the first 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: appearance generally of a criminal defendant felony or misdemeanor, is 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: in front of a judge like Berkowitz and they set bond. 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: Then the case normally goes to the grand jury. Then 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: it's another bond is set in common police cord across 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: the street. But until then, Judge Josh Burker, which welcome 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: we had some more terrible violence on Fountain Square. I 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: see that eighteen people have been wounded shot in and 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: around Fountain Square since the start of the year. And 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: one of the persons doing the shooting through the plate 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: glass window was on probation because of previous flownius assaults 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: committed by him earlier this year, and. 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: So he's out. 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: So just in general, what is the difficulty you see 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: on the ground is one of the judges who actually 35 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: set bonds, many of which your fellow judges are setting 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: no cash bonds. 37 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: Sign your name and lee for serious offenses. 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill, thanks for having me on again. I mean, 39 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: this just couldn't get more alarming. I feel like what 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 3: we're witnessing here in Cincinnati is nothing short, nothing less 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: than a descent into third world lawlessness. I can't really 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: believe it. I grew up here, born and raised here. 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: This was a safe city. That's not to say that 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: there was never crime, of course there was, but this 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: escalation of violence and a complete absence of consequences for 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: all manner of criminal behavior. It's flat out scary, and 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: I think it is touching the lives of every person 48 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: in this region, whether you work here, live here, whatever. 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: People are fed up with it, and they should be. 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: This is the predictable. 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: Product of twenty years of bad progressive criminal justice policy 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: that you know, among other things, was sold on the 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: public in this community and around the country that this 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: would make us safer. 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 56 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: What you mentioned, no cash bail, talking about the move 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: to empty prisons, to not send convicted felons to prisons, 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: to not lock people up in the county jail, to 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: treat victims, to ignore victims of crime, and to treat 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: the police as the villains and the responsible. 61 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 4: Party when there's a criminal act. 62 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 3: All of that contributes to this atmosphere of lawlessness in 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati. 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: Josh bergerit you did a TV interview a few nights 65 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: ago in which you had some statistics from I think 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: it was twenty nineteen, about six years ago, and you 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: might recall fifteen or twenty years ago while you were 68 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: probably still in high school. There was movements a foot 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: to double the jail space. How many county jail wasn't able. 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: We were double bunking criminals and there was a federal 71 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: judge ordering Hamilton County to release criminals. My wife, when 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: she was on the bench would get emails from Sheriff 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Simon Lee's at eight am, not accepting anymore and more criminals. 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Today we're full up, We're more than full. And because 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: of bonds being set and judges like you, not twenty 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: years ago but currently would send people to Hamny County 77 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: jail for like thirty days, give them a taste, break 78 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the cycle. But what are the facts statistics now in 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five as supposed I think it was twenty nineteen, 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: which wasn't exactly a long time. 81 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: It was not a long time ago six years ago. 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: I compared the dates October fourteenth, twenty twenty five October 83 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: twenty October fourteenth, twenty nineteen. The population six years ago 84 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: of the Justice Center was fifteen hundred and fifty people, Okay, 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: one hundred supposedly over capacity of the Justice Center, which 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: supposedly has a capacity of fourteen fifty two yesterday, the 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: capacity at the Justice Center still fourteen fifty two and 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: the population was something like twelve sixty, so almost two 89 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: hundred empty beds just yesterday. The whole floors, whole floors 90 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: of the Justice Center are empty. You know, we started 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: getting these emails every day from the Sheriff's department letting 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: us know about the population. You know, ten years ago 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: when I started, when that overpopulation was such a concern 94 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: and at times they had to send inmates to Butler County. 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: And I'm proud of the fact Bill I never bought 96 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: into it. You know, they would, they would kind of subtly, Hey, judge, 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: maybe the way you set bonds. You know, we've got 98 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: this overcrowding situation. I never thought that was our responsibility 99 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: as judges. That's the sheriff's responsibility to maintain the jail 100 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: under the Constitution of Ohio. And they took steps to 101 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: deal with it. They'd send inmates to Butler County. Now 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: we've got a situation and we can see the numbers 103 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: in black and white. Two hundred empty beds in the 104 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: Hamilton County Justice Center. I mean, that is outrageous. Does 105 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: anybody think that there's three hundred less crimes occurring in 106 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: Hamilton County right now than there were six years ago. 107 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: No nobody believes that. 108 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: Well, if you're Joe Strucker living a simple life in 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: a good way, what do you say to him? As 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: far as having the open beds, how come there are 111 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: two to three hundred open beds. You're a judge sentencing people, 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: there are setting bonds. Why are there so many open 113 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: beds when there's more crime? 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: I think it's a reflection of those progressive policies. These 115 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: are policy choices in setting bonds, in fashioning sentencing on 116 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: misdemeanors and on felonies, and it's a reflection of progressive 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: police policies from City Hall. There's no question that the 118 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: administration at City Hall and in the Cincinnati Police Department 119 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: have actively discouraged proactive law enforcement. 120 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: There's no question. 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: Whether you're talking about, you know, traffic enforcement, or you're 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: talking about going after illegal guns or illegal drugs, or 123 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: trying to get at the violent offenders, you name it. 124 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: There is no question. 125 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean, look, there's something like one hundred or two 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: hundred police officers down from where the contract says they 127 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: should be. They're not putting the resources necessary to combat crime. 128 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: But more importantly than the numbers to me is they 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: have actively discouraged proactive policing. And they did this proudly 130 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. They were proud of themselves 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: that they were reimagining police work. 132 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 6: If you remember the language of twenty twenty, that they 133 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 6: didn't they didn't want officers proactively identifying and going after 134 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: people carrying illegal guns, carrying illegal drugs, engaged in illegal trafficking. Well, 135 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 6: that's how you get at that's how you interrupt those 136 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: cycles of violence before they happen. 137 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: You get the people carrying an illegal gun, you get 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: the people engaged in drug trafficking before it goes over 139 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: into shootings, and innocent people are caught in the crossfire. 140 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: When I practice actively on the criminal defense bar, if 141 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: you had a client on a no driver's license or 142 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: driving under suspension, or driving with no insurance, it was regular. 143 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: If you're in front of a judge Jack Rosen or 144 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: even a judge Robert Gorman Democrat, Rich Kneehouse Democrat, Skip 145 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: West Democrat, they would go to jail. Because if you 146 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: drive a car and you don't have a license and 147 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: you don't have insurance, that's like a serious offense. Today, 148 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson and others tell police, if you do that, 149 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: we're going to have a Pandora's box. Well you pull 150 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: somebody over speeding, Well you're going thirty five and a 151 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty five. Let me see your license. Well I don't 152 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: have a license. And let me see your insurance. I 153 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: don't have insurance. You run them as there's two warrants 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: out for your arrest, get out of the car now 155 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: your hand's on and they might find in the car 156 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: other stuff. When you talk about proactive policing, if someone's 157 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: walking around downtown Cincinnati smoking a joint or injecting himselves 158 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: with drugs. For the first time, yesterday I heard Chief 159 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: of Police Fiji, who by the way, is on extremely 160 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: thin ice maybe single digits employment, say that we're going 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: to quote confront you. 162 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 2: You will be. 163 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: Confronted if you're violating your criminal statue. If you're confronted, 164 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: what the hell does that mean. 165 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that terminology in the law bill. 166 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: You know, none of this stuff used to be controversial 167 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: ten years ago. Even ten years ago when I took 168 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: the bench, there was not this this divergence of approach 169 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: when it comes to bond setting. For example, all the 170 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: judges that you mentioned and the judges that were on 171 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: the bench, whether they were Democrat or Republican, it didn't matter. 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 3: It just wasn't a controversial thing. You see, you if 173 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: you saw a dangerous individual, how do you know, well, 174 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 3: the seriousess of the allegation, the criminal history, their history 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: of failure to appear in court. You know, serious bonds 176 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: were set on serious cases and that was not something 177 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: that was terribly controversial. But like I said, that progressive philosophy, 178 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: and it was very it was very proudly brought to 179 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: the bench that we're going to just like that, reimagining police, 180 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: defunding the police, ending cash bail. I mean, there's this 181 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: mentality amongst the progressive activist lawyers and now unfortunately some 182 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: judges around the country that views the jail or prison 183 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: as a as an absolute, just unnecessary evil. They just 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: they load the concept of sending somebody to jail. It's 185 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: very very I mean, it's tragic in a number of respects. 186 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: Obviously it's made our community less safe, but they ignore 187 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: and overlook all of the positive things that can happen. 188 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: You know, when we set appropriate bonds on serious cases. 189 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: We have the potential to disrupt cycles of violence, cycles 190 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: of addiction, cycles of abuse and trauma, you know, all 191 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: the things that that progressive minded people claim to care 192 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: so much about. We have the opportunity to send a 193 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: message to victims that our that our courthouse is fair, 194 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: that it's functional, that they're going to get justice here. 195 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: We have the opportunity to connect people with all kinds 196 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: of services through the jail, mental health treatment, drug addiction treatment. 197 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean, these are real, real opportunities, uh, to you know, 198 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: reduce violence in this community and and and push back 199 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: and to deter criminal behavior. And it's it's nothing short 200 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: of a tragedy that so many at all levels of 201 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: government have seen that as as unnecessary and oh it's 202 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: just it's too expensive. You know, criminal justice is not 203 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: a line item on a budget. This is why people 204 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 3: pay tax locally, state, federal, so that they are not 205 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: shot coming out of their workplace. 206 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: Or going out to dinner, so that they're not. 207 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: In the crossfire, so that violent people are taken off 208 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: the streets and we can live in a safe community. 209 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: Judge Berkowitz I said to you off the air, this 210 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: is not democratic Republican. I appeared in front of Democratic 211 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: judges like Cheryl Grant or Andrew West or Nadine Allen 212 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: or Rich Kniehaus or feller Offer Gorman, go down the list, 213 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: and there wasn't a great separation between Democrat and Republican. 214 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: But today there is. 215 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: And I think that George Floyd effect in twenty twenty 216 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: was a key part of that. That there was a 217 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: sense that we have to reimagine criminal justice. So now 218 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: we have judges like Kerry Bloom who's in juvenile court 219 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't want to sentence somebody to jail because jail 220 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: inflicts more harm upon a defendant than the defendant inflicted 221 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: upon the victim. There was a report by Channel nineteen 222 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Fox nineteen that so far this year she has sent 223 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: one seventeen year old to adult court for an adult 224 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: crime involving a gun. 225 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: And so. 226 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: Are you exasperated when you get with your fellow judges 227 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: and you must run around with the other thirteen or 228 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: fourteen of them? 229 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: Is there a sense? 230 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Is there a disagreement, Is there an argument or simply 231 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: all of you are like different islands together. 232 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I try to focus on my responsibility 233 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: when I set bonds. You know, that's my I believe 234 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: I take seriously our constitutional responsibility to consider public safety 235 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: when we're setting bonds. But I'm not in another courtroom. 236 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: I'm not in front of these other judges. 237 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: I don't I'm not. 238 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: Looking over their shoulder, and I don't know their thought process. 239 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 3: I would hope that everyone on our court takes this 240 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: responsibility seriously. I hope that people are starting to uh 241 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: that these policies, like I said earlier, you know, they 242 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: were all not just supposed to be more fair, not 243 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: just supposed to be you know, less expensive. They were 244 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: all pitched to the to the community and to the 245 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: court as they would make our community safer. And by 246 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: any measure, it has been an abject failure, an absolute 247 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: failure in every sense of the word. And I would 248 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: hope that the judges who are on the court, both 249 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: my colleagues and municipal court and in the common Police 250 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: Court where a felony sentencing occurs, I hope that people 251 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: wake up to the reality this community. I don't care 252 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: what neighborhood you're. 253 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: In, It's not just Kenwood, it's not just Indian Hill. 254 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: People across this community want safe neighborhoods, safe streets. They 255 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: want their kids to be able to go to school 256 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: without fear of gunfire. They want they want to be 257 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: able to go out and enjoy a ballgame or a 258 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: night out at a at a restaurant downtown without worrying 259 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: about you know, what happened between the car and the 260 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: front door. That is not and it shouldn't be too 261 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: much to ask. Those are reasonable expectations, and it's not 262 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: being delivered right now. 263 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Two to three hundred empty beds in the Hamlet County 264 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Justice Center tells exactly what's happening. But Judge Josh Burko, 265 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: which we have to go and we'll see what happens. 266 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: We get the government we deserve, and we need better 267 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: judges and not Democrat Republican. 268 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: We need those who sentence criminal to. 269 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Jail and keep people in jail locked up for serious crimes. 270 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: And about half the bench doesn't do it, and half 271 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: do when you're in the part that does it correctly. 272 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: But Judge Josh Burko, yeah, go ahead, judge. 273 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: You know, the great thing about the system of electing. 274 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: Judges in Ohio is that people have a voice. They 275 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: have the opportunity to choose what kind of justice system 276 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: that they want in Hamilton County and around the counties 277 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: of Ohio. Every one of us, every judge, has to 278 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: stand for election. 279 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: You know, public safety is one. 280 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 3: Hundred percent on the ballot right next to me when 281 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: I'm running this fall. And for people who want to 282 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: get involved, they can go to keep Judge Berkerwitz dot com. 283 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: They can get involved, they can express their support and 284 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: voice their desire to live in a safe community. And yeah, 285 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: elections have consequences. We have an opportunity to send a 286 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: strong message that this community still cares and still demands 287 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 3: public safety. I believe we do, and I think we're 288 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: going to send us strong messages. 289 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: I hope. 290 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: All right, Judge Burkeerysh thanks for coming on the Bill 291 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: Cunningham Show. And Judge, you're a great American. Thank you 292 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: very much. 293 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill, I appreciate your time. 294 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Well let's continue with Mark coming up later as a 295 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: United States Senator, and also Britney Ruby and also Justice 296 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: Jeaters on news radio seven hundred WLW. You know, the 297 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: more I listen to Lance McAllister, the more I like them. 298 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: The guy's got some talent, join me and listening to 299 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: him every night six to nine, et cetera. Let's get 300 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: down to specifics. Let's name names, setting up today's big show. 301 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 1: I want to thank Judge Josh Berkowitz for coming on 302 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: somewhat difficult, and I know he's going to catch some 303 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: flak from some for telling the truth. But the truth 304 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: will set you free. And the fact that we have 305 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: two to three hundred empty beds in the Hamley County 306 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Justice Center also known as the jail, is indicative of 307 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: a large problem with the judges of Hamilton County. This 308 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: is not may I say, Democrat or Republican, or male 309 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: versus female, because some of the best conservative judges I 310 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: know are female, like Penelope R. Cunningham or Sharon Kennedy 311 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: or Melba Marsh. There's all kinds of good female judges, 312 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of good Democratic judges. For many years, whether 313 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: it was Judge Gorman or Judge West, Judge Morey Kneehouse, 314 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Judge Richard Kneehouse or Judge Nadine Allen or Cheryl Grant 315 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: or Andrew West, they were all Democrats, but they had 316 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: a sense of protecting the community from the criminal element 317 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: in which they lived. It's kind of odd the Democrats 318 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: that's the party that elects judges that have a no 319 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: cash bond, no one goes to jail attitude. When the 320 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: defendants in front of these democratic judges prey upon the 321 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: black community itself, one might ask, in that's somewhat odd, but. 322 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: This is where we are. 323 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: I am told by knowledgeable sources that the days of 324 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Chief of Police Teresa Thigi are numbered in the single digits. 325 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: She's going to be. 326 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: The fall guy, the fall girl for what's happening. She 327 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: has completely lost the confidence of her command staff. She 328 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: speaks to the media, but doesn't speak to the command staff, 329 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: the many women in blue. She doesn't go to districts, 330 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: and there's no respect, no respect between the command staff 331 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: of CPD and the cops in the street on the 332 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: one hand, and Chief of Police Terisa Thigi on the other. 333 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: You might know that she's left town. She's in Denver 334 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: allegedly for a three day, four day Chief of Police conference. 335 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: They're working out her severance package, and they want to 336 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: bring in someone that commands the respect of the men 337 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: and women in blue because they don't respect her. That's 338 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: a problem. I'm also told that the Sheriff of Hamilton 339 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: County Charmaine McGuffey has stepped forward to say I will 340 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: fill the breach. In fact, one politician told me that 341 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: they kind of asked the sheriff, Charmaine McGuffey, if she 342 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: can also serve as the chief of police, and the 343 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: answer was no, can't do that. But see, the jurisdiction 344 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: of the sheriff is as complete on Fountain Square as 345 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: it is in Sycamore Township. It's the entire county. And 346 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: she is outraged at what she sees in her city. 347 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: And she does have the respect of her command staff. 348 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: And you talk to the men and women in gold 349 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and black operating the Sheriff's department, they say, we respect 350 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: that that woman right there, Charmaine McGuffey. We respect her 351 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: because she came up through the ranks, held every lousy 352 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: job in the Sheriff's department. She was a corporal, a sergeant, lieutenant, 353 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a captain of commander. She come all the way up, 354 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: so all those years she built relationships up and down 355 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: the ladder with the men and women in gold and 356 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: black who wear the sheriff's uniform. So look forward in 357 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: the future to Charmaine McGuffey to get a much larger role. 358 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: I also would note that because the election is only 359 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: about two and a half weeks away, that I have 360 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: to have pureval has seen the promised Land, He's seen 361 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: the light, so he kind of wants at this point 362 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: the state to come in and do more stuff so 363 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: that the Feds don't come in and do a lot 364 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. You heard Anna Albie with Scott Sloan, and 365 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: she's completely lost her way as a left wing radical. 366 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Blaming guns for violence is like blaming cars for car recks. 367 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, we've had that argument so many times in 368 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: the past, is not worth repeating it. One of the 369 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: safest plays to be is at a gun show in 370 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: which there's thousands of guns and thousands of rounds of 371 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: ammunition and hundreds of people with guns everywhere, and nobody 372 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: gets shot. No such a thing as gun violence. There's 373 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: three hundred million guns in the country. Guns do not 374 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: commit violence. Cars do not commit violence. People operating cars 375 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: and operating guns they do commit violence. And we got 376 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: law upon law after law about who can drive a car, 377 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: who can't drive a car, who can own a gun, 378 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: who cannot own a gun? Three day waiting period, you 379 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: got waiting You got this. You got that. They're all 380 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: kind of loss. It is not about some inanimate metal 381 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: objects that is never on its own hurt anyone unless 382 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: it's fired an accident, well by itself. 383 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: That's not a problem. 384 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: So it's absurd for Anna Albi to talk about guns 385 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: are the problem, or I have to have pure of 386 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: all who's completely lost his way. Guns are the problem. 387 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: It's like blaming a Chevrolet. If some driver drives drunk, 388 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: uses it improperly and hurts someone, No one locks up 389 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: to Chevrolet. So it is ridiculous. It's an excuse because 390 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: of the failure of their policies. That's why guns are 391 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: mentioned so often my Democrats. It's an excuse and a 392 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: diversion from reality. Getting back to the question at hand, 393 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: f Ted Pirreval has determined that Chief of Police, Teresa 394 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Thiji must go. It's reached national proportions. I may play 395 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: later for you a national commentator talking about the city 396 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and how absurd it is to have a 397 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: chief of police that looks like she belongs on a 398 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: can of Dutch Boy soup Dutch Boy paint. That would 399 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: be Thiji saying we're going to confront you if you 400 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: commit crime, you will be confronted. It isn't call it 401 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: confronting somebody, It's called arresting somebody that tried and true works. 402 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: As Josh Berkowitz said, number one, you need cops to 403 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: arrest criminals. Number two, you need prosecutors to prosecute criminals. 404 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: And number three, you need judges to send criminals to prison, 405 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: not like Judge Carrie Bloom who never met a criminal 406 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: she didn't like. 407 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: And I will name names. 408 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: I will name names because we have about half the bench, 409 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: our disciples of restorative justice, who bought into the arguments 410 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: about defunding the police and emptying out the jails after 411 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: the so called George Floyd riots, using that as an 412 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: opportunity to impose left wing socialism on our major cities 413 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: which have largely collapsed the past five years, including the 414 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. So that disastrous news conference yesterday by 415 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: the chief of police kind of sewed her up as 416 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to be replaced soon by someone, and the mayor's looking 417 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: around now to have an interim chief appointment to get 418 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: him through until election day. I would be shocked if 419 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Fiji at this point can save her job. And I 420 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: also would be surprised if Charmaine McGuffey, the sheriff, doesn't 421 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: step up and say I'll do my job. You might 422 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: recall I had her on about a month ago. She 423 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: issued hundreds of citations, confiscated many guns, and arrested individuals 424 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: on warns. But then once they get into the court system, 425 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: her hands are tied about what she can do. As 426 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: Josh Berkeleish just said, we have two to three hundred 427 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: empty beds because municipal court judges and common police court 428 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: judges do not set appropriate bonds considering public safety as 429 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: they're required to do, and doesn't want someone to go 430 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: to prison and the good old days, like ten years ago, 431 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: you might have three to five years on the shelf 432 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: and then go to Hamlet County jail for like ninety days. 433 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: Give you a taste, then you get out. You serve 434 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: you ninety days. You might get out in seventy five 435 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: days with good behavior. You've been prison. You've been in 436 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: jail for two two and a half months and on 437 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: the shelf is three years. Now reform your life. But 438 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: we have several judges in Hamlin County who give no 439 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: cash bonds because it's not fair. And secondly, who will 440 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 1: not send people to prison. They include Judge Jennifer Branch, 441 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Kai Cash, Judge Wendy Cross, Judge Allison Hathaway, Judge Christopher Jenkins, 442 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: Judge Virginia Tallon, Judge Dante Johnson, Judge Dwayne Mallory, Judge 443 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Bill Mallory. One of the worst is Judge Samantha Silverstein, 444 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: brand new judge public defender type who gives no cash, 445 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: bonds constantly on felonies, and doesn't send people to jail. 446 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Judge Samantha I'll give her extra commendations along with Carrie Bloom. 447 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: Judge Samantha Silverstein does not think people belong in jail, 448 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: and of course Judge Deniah Trotter. All these happen to 449 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: be Democrats, and all believe in the principles of restorative justice. 450 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: That is, it's unfair to send a criminal to jail. 451 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: Does many have said, like Judge carry Bloom and Juvenile 452 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: Court that jail Juvie Court at twenty twenty Auburn or 453 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Upstate causes more harm upon a juvenile than the harm 454 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: the juvenile inflicted upon the victim. So when you have 455 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: judges who believe in restorative justice, judges who believe in 456 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: sanctuary city status, judges who believe that bonds should not 457 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: take into account public safety, which by the ways against 458 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: the law. Just because some criminal can't afford to post 459 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: a bond while some rich guy could doesn't mean that 460 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: the poor guy shouldn't get a break. It used to 461 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: be when you committed a serious crime, you got a 462 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: serious bond. But if you're Judge Samanthus Silverstein or one 463 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: of the Mallories or Dante Johnson or Janiah Trotter, you 464 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: don't think so. That's why there's two to three hundred 465 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: empty beds right now in the Hema County jail, and 466 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: normally judges like Josh Berkowitz or Judge Winkler or Judge 467 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: Tinklocker wants to fill them up with criminals who should 468 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: be in jail and not on the street. Like the 469 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: guy who was twenty four years old convicted a few 470 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: months ago this year of felonious assault causing serious physical 471 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: harm to another is out on probation because of the 472 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: activities of judge when you cross, who don't want to 473 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: put criminals in jail who commit serious crimes. Secondly, because 474 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: of George Floyd and others, there was a movement accepted 475 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Himlelton County that sheriff's departments and cops and 476 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: aren't going to pull over individuals for minor traffic violations 477 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: because it might lead to something else in this world. 478 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: If you're a judge, if you're a judge or a 479 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: council member, Scottie Johnson or Victoria Parks or of course 480 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: Lemon Kearney, you should represent properly the black community, and 481 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: you do not, since the great bulk of the crime 482 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: committed is in the black community. 483 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: By zip code. 484 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: The zip codes tell you where the black community is, 485 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: and the crime in Cincinnati is largely a young black 486 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: mail face. Well, the great majority of young black males 487 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: don't commit crime, but they believe locking up a black 488 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: kid is the system's problem. So the cops are told, 489 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: and you've heard me say this, You've heard Ken Cobra 490 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: or the police say this, we are disincentivized to pull 491 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: somebody over. Who's speeding down Madison Avenue, Madison Road, someone 492 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: in Montgomery Road, who's someone on Reading Road. By the casino, 493 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: you can see people zip through red lights and swerve 494 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: around traffic, leave their line to travel, and commit other 495 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: traffic offenses and cops don't pull them over. Why because 496 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: they're not supposed to. Why because if you pull them over, 497 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: can I see your ID? Can I see your license? 498 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: Do you have insurance? Is there anything in the car 499 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be in there? Suddenly your hands on with 500 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: a large number of people, and Scottie Johnson doesn't want that. 501 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: But when you do that, you find out illegal guns, 502 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: illegal drugs. This person has warns out for their arrest. 503 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Then you got to arrest somebody. Then you put them 504 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: into jail, and within twelve hours you're up here in 505 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: front of Judge Samanthas Silverstein and gosh what you bond 506 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: out quickly, you sign your name and you're gone to 507 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: drive some more cars around. So we learned yesterday from 508 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: Chief of Police Thiegy days are numbered that they're going 509 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: to confront criminals when they're committing crime in the presence 510 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of cops. I don't call it confrontation. I call it arrest. 511 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Put your hands behind your back. You're under arrest for 512 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: smoking pot publicly. That is a misdemeanor. You're using drugs 513 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: in public and needle in your arm. You're under arrest. 514 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: You're speeding, you're under arrest, some sort of burnout on 515 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Vine Street. You're under arrest, we fill up the jail. 516 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: You might recall the judge just said five years ago, 517 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Six years ago, there was five hundred and 518 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: fifty inmates in the jail with a little bit of 519 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: double booking going on. Right now they're down two to 520 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: three hundred inmates, empty beds because judges are not sending 521 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: criminals to jail. They don't think it's fair, they don't 522 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: think it's right. In fact, Wendy Cross wants to go 523 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: back thirty or forty years and find out what Eldwood 524 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: Jones knew who was a condemned murderer of Rhoda Nathan 525 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: and she freed him on chief freed a condemned murderer 526 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: from death row and gave him an O R bond 527 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: to get out. 528 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? No, that's the fact. 529 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: And so we have systemic difficulty, systemic problems. It is 530 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: a police department that's demoralized and doesn't pay attention to 531 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: the chief. It's a judicial system where half the judges 532 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: are after the George Floyd effects constantly and feeling sorry 533 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: for people who commit crime. And then you also have 534 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: the Parole Probation Board in Columbus who free people like 535 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Mordecai Black throughout murder Patrick Herringer in his own home 536 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: cutting off his monitor and CP didn't pay attention. You 537 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: got that issue, but it begins with the cops on 538 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: the street. Then it has to go to the bench. 539 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: You can't have individuals supposedly representing all of us, but 540 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: especially the black community, that engages in decisions that hurt 541 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: the black community. 542 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: Are you better off today than you are four years ago? 543 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 7: Wo? 544 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: They have to have pure of all as the mayor. 545 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: Are you better off now? Huh? 546 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: So, the ten to fifteen percent of my audience who 547 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: live in the city of Cincinnati, you have an opportunity 548 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: to change things. And if you fail to take that 549 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: opportunity and you put the same clowns in charge you 550 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: have now, don't anticipate different results. Anticipate more companies will 551 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: leave downtown Cincinnati. Anticipate more crime will be committed. And 552 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: don't tell me, please, don't tell me that there's less 553 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: crime being committed today. Garbage in, garbage out. Cops are 554 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: told not to arrest people. That's a reason crime reporting 555 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: is down because criminals aren't being arrested. Secondly, you're down 556 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: twenty percent of the cops. If there's twenty percent less cops, 557 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: there should be at least twenty percent fewer arrest. Cops 558 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: are the ones doing the arresting. So if you have 559 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: twenty percent fewer cops, you have twenty percent fewer arrest 560 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 1: Just say exactly where you are. Add on top of 561 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: that the fact that individuals who commit crime I'm in 562 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: public are not being arrested by the cops on duty. 563 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: They'll see somebody committing a crime and they won't arrest 564 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: that person. Then the other twenty percent of cops that 565 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: don't exist, there's nobody to arrest anybody anyway. Therefore, guess what, Hey, 566 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: crime is down. Don't worry about it. Crime is down. 567 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: Look at the statistics. Garbage in, garbage out. Crime is 568 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: down because you have twenty percent fewer cops. Crime is 569 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: down because cops aren't arresting people. Understand what I'm saying. 570 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: That's the problem. So the mayor is going to use 571 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: Thiji as a sacrificial lamb, then appoint somebody else either 572 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: before after the election, and move on. 573 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: Can you smell when I'm cooking? Let's continue We never stopped. 574 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: We simply continue and coming up after one o'clock today, 575 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: we've scheduled Senator John Houston, former lieutenant governor has held 576 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: every position in the state of Ohio now the United 577 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: States Senate. And then also later on we scheduled a 578 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: representative of Jeff Ruby, Britney Ruby will be here at 579 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: two of five today to talk about the closing of 580 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: one of her facilities downtown Lampeka and all of her offices, 581 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: the crime situation. She issued a press release yesterday, given 582 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: the mayor twenty four hours and he did hold the 583 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: news conference at two o'clock yesterday. That was a disaster 584 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: for the chief of police. A disaster, an unmitigated disaster, 585 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: can I say it again? Disaster for law enforcement. And 586 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: it was at that point the mayor in the back 587 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: of his head said she's got to go. So instead 588 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: of staying in town, it was reported that she's in Denver, Colorado, 589 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: attending a chief of Police conferences. The mayor puts together 590 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: a severance package. Well, what happened before after the election, 591 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, but the mayor thinks he's in trouble 592 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: because of the campaign of Corey Bowman. The mayor thinks 593 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: he's in trouble, so he wants to act as if 594 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: things are going to be different. Let's continue with more 595 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: and line becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, 596 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: seven thousand. I think the Bengals will do so well 597 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, though it could be a quarterback controversy. I 598 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: think Flacco will do so well people will say we 599 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: don't need Joe Burrow anymore. 600 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 2: Twelve fifty five. Home are your Bengals? 601 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: Who's radio seven hundred Wow, Billy Cunning Immigrant America. We've 602 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: heard from judges now in Hamlin a County, and also 603 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: later on we have the scheduled anyway Britney Ruby to 604 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: come on. I talked to her this morning at length. 605 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Scheduled to come on about two o'clock today. We also 606 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: have Supreme Court Justice show Diaters coming on. We have 607 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: everyone coming on, including the junior senator from the great 608 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: state of Ohio, Senator John Houston, who's busy in Washington, 609 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: not too busy with the government shutdown. A senator, I 610 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: saw you a week ago presiding in the Senate, and 611 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: I felt particularly proud you were trying to get the 612 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: government shut down to conclude. 613 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: But the Democrats won't do that. 614 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Before we talk about the government shutdown, what is your 615 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: perception of what's happening now in the city of Cincinnati 616 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: and what role, if any, can the state and or 617 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: the fedch play in bringing peace to River City. 618 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 5: Well, Bill, it's great to be with you. It's an 619 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 5: unfortunate thing because I always say this's about cities. Your 620 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 5: number one job when you're the mayor, the chief of police, 621 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 5: the city council is protect people and their property. If 622 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 5: you fail to do that, you fail to do that 623 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: fundamental thing, then people will not visit your city, People 624 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 5: will not invest there, people will leave, people, businesses will 625 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 5: move out of your downtown in your area. And it's 626 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: harming and it harms the people of your city the 627 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 5: most because not only does it make them unsafe, but 628 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 5: it also makes it weakened and economically weakens your your city. 629 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 5: And the only ex I mean, you tell me what 630 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: the explanation is to this, but why wouldn't you have 631 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 5: a police there all the time, over time, showing the 632 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 5: presidents and basically saying, no, a heart of our central 633 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 5: business district, entertainment district, it will be safe. We invite 634 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 5: the world to come to Cincinnati because it's the safest city. Instead, 635 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 5: it's becoming a very dangerous. 636 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: City center of the calls. 637 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: In effect, PNG is grossly expanding its footprint in Mason. 638 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: They're getting prepared to downsize their facilities. You know, Macy's 639 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: has moved out, is now going to become try to 640 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: become apartment buildings. Most of the large businesses in Cincinnati 641 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: have their own police department because they can't trust the city. 642 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: I am told the chief of police Thiji is about 643 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: to become the fall guy. She's about to get a 644 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: copy of the home game because the mayor's policies don't work. 645 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: The mayor did a big news conference. I'm not sure 646 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: you were there, but the governor was there, the FBI 647 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: was there, the Department of Treasury was there, the US 648 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: Marshall was there, County prosecutors there, County sheriff was there, 649 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: accepting state help that never arrived because the mayor and 650 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: share along the city manager, it never triggered it requesting it. 651 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: And we look at the memorandum of understanding. It involved 652 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: two shifts a month having the state involved. And now 653 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: after yesterday's news conference, it appears the city they finally 654 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: have said to the County and to the state. We 655 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: need help get it done. We can't fix the roads. 656 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: We have potholes everywhere, Bridges are falling down, and the 657 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: police force does not listen greatly to the chief of police, order, 658 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: the mayor, order the city manager. That's another complete different issue. 659 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,479 Speaker 1: We have car break ins. We have more than twenty 660 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: thousand shots every filed every year rattling around Cincinnati. We're 661 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna have about four hundred people shot. We're gonna have 662 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: about one hundred people murdered. We're gonna have about two 663 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: thousand cars stolen and about fifteen thousand car break ins. 664 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: And you know, John, excuse me, Senator, Cincinnati is like 665 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: seven miles by eight miles. 666 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: It's small. 667 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: The public school system has forty six percent of the 668 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: children are chronically absent, and if you're a black boy, 669 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: you're chronically absent seventy one percent of the time. On 670 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: top of all this, we have two thousand kids in 671 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: foster care. We have a complete meltdown of the institutions, 672 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: and Corporate America is voting with their moving truck to 673 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: get out of downtown Cincinnati. What role, if any, could 674 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: the National Guard play? I know that was a topic 675 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: and the mayor debate, and you're kind of in charge 676 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: of that in a sense, what role does a National 677 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: Guard play to bring order to our city? 678 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 5: Well, Bill, look, you needn't look very far away. 679 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 2: Cleveland, Ohio. 680 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 5: The governor just sent a special violent crime reduction unit 681 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 5: to Cleveland with the Highway Patrol, and in one weekend 682 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 5: they captured five eight eight felony arrests, six illegal firearms recovered, okay, 683 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 5: and they captured a guy who was part of a 684 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 5: mass shooting last year. Okay, And like literally this was 685 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 5: in one weekend when when the city of Cleveland finally 686 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 5: relented and said, hey, we're going to accept help from 687 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 5: the Highway Patrol, the governor sent them in and they 688 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 5: captured all of these people who've been terrorized in the community. 689 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 5: You can do the same thing in Cincinnati. It's just 690 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 5: that you need to have a mayor and the chief 691 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 5: of police who are willing to let it happen that 692 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 5: you can do this with law enforcement. The challenge for 693 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: the National Guard is that they don't have they don't 694 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 5: have the ability to arrest people. They can protect, they 695 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 5: can create a presence, but they don't have they don't 696 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 5: have law enforcement powers. That's why sending in the highway 697 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 5: patrol is a better way to do it, because they 698 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 5: can arrest people, they can coordinate with law enforcement, and 699 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 5: they can clean up the streets. But you've got to 700 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 5: have local leaders who will do this. 701 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: Didn't happen. We had this big news conference a month ago. 702 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Had another one yesterday, and what's our 703 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 1: chief of police looked in the camera and told her 704 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: officers in uniform what to do is she didn't tell them. 705 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: She told the news media. And she says, if you're 706 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: committing crime in Cincinnati, we will con front you. We 707 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: will confront you. And I'm thinking confront me. I want 708 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: someone to be arrested. 709 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: We have time. 710 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 5: I will arrest you and prosecute you the fullest extent 711 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 5: of the law and get you off our street, probably 712 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 5: to protect businesses and do the thing that we need 713 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 5: to keep people safe. That's what she needs to say. 714 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: No, we're gonna confront you, and I have, you know, 715 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 1: the county corner last me some markets. 716 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe they could, maybe they could have admonished them to. 717 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna get You're gonna get time out in the corner. 718 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, She says, we will confront you. 719 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: And if I'm a gangbanger with guns and I'm selling drugs, 720 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: breaking into cars and god knows, burglarizing, I have the 721 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: chief of police who looks like she belongs on a 722 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: can of Dutch Boy paint, who's telling me I'm gonna 723 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: confront you. It's like confront We have open air drug use, 724 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: marijuana frequently being smoked, and I hope the President doesn't 725 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: do much with that, by the way, because it's gone 726 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: into the children. We have open air drug markets. We 727 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: have homeless encampments, we have car break ins, we have 728 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: people getting shot on Fountain Square, and the chief police says, 729 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: you will be confronted. 730 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: What why you got me? 731 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 4: Now? 732 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: I'm good, Now, I'm good. 733 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 5: I'm Bill. I talked to some Cincinnati police officers recently 734 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 5: and I asked this question. I said, I said, look 735 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 5: what happens when you arrest people, because. 736 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 4: It's more than just it's more than just the law enforcements. 737 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 5: And then you send them to court. Are they putting 738 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 5: them away? Are they are they taking the criminals off 739 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 5: the street and putting them in jail? And one officer 740 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 5: told me a story that there's a gas station a 741 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 5: corner where there's constantly fights, there's constantly drug deals going 742 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 5: on there. They arrest them, they take them to jail, 743 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 5: and when less than twenty four hours, they're back on 744 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 5: the streets. So the criminals know that you develop a 745 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 5: culture in your city based on whether you're tough on 746 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 5: crime or you're weak on crime. And once the criminals 747 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 5: know that there are no consequences for committing crimes, guess 748 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 5: what they commit the crimes and that's the culture that's 749 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 5: being developed that needs to be addressed. 750 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: The Shell station on Central Parkway is the site of 751 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: massive drug sales captured on video on a daily basis, 752 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: and there are no arrests. When I talked to Ken 753 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: Kober of the FOP, they tell me we have the 754 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: indirect message not to arrest people unless it's required, because 755 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson and others on city Council don't want to 756 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: go hands on with someone. If you go hands on, 757 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: you might have an incident, you might have a warrant, 758 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: you might find out he's got a gun. We don't 759 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: pull people over for speeding reckless operation because we have 760 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: speed bumps. The speed bumps take the place more queue. 761 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: The speed bumps because the city council doesn't want police 762 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: to pull somebody over, run their warrants. Okay, you don't 763 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: have a license, don't have insurance, their car's not registered, 764 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: got guns there. They don't want that to happen, So 765 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: we have speed bumps instead of cops. And on that point, 766 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: about an hour ago, ahead on Judge Josh Berkowitz, who's 767 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: the presiding judge in Hamley County Municipal Court, he put 768 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: the cheese on the cracker. He said, half the judges 769 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: in my court believe in restorative justice. So I say 770 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: to him, Okay, I think I know what is restorative justice. 771 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: If you're a judge, that the fact is that needs 772 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: to restore justice to the criminal. A many times the 773 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: so called black community, the great majority of black kids 774 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with crime. 775 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: But the face in Cincinnati is a black male face. 776 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 2: And so if you come. 777 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: Out of the restorative justice movement, you believe in no 778 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: cash bonds, and you believe that putting a kid in 779 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: jail for that child is worse than the victim penalty 780 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: inflicted upon the victim. We have a juvenile court judge 781 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: Carrie Bloom, who's given talks on this subject. And what 782 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: she says in juvenile court, I do not want to 783 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: put black kids in jail. It's reparations, it's about slavery, 784 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: it's about affirmative action, it's about DEEO. I don't want 785 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: to put black kids in jail. And she said, by 786 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: the way, a white female. But nonetheless she says, half 787 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: the judges in Amity County do not sentence. 788 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 2: Anyone to jail. 789 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: We have another good judge, a friend of mine, Alison Hathaway, 790 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: who released some eighteen and a half year old on 791 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: a gun charge. She reduced it, and then six weeks 792 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: later he kills a sixteen year old on OTR on 793 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: her watch, and now that kid's going to face life imprisonment. 794 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: So what do you do, Senator, If half the judges 795 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: are more in Hamley County do not want to sentence 796 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: anybody to jail and don't want to lock them up. 797 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: They want them all along the streets, what do you 798 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: say about that one? 799 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 5: They got to go to them out. That's what you 800 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 5: gotta do with people to do that, Bill is pretty 801 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 5: This is pretty simple. It's not the people. We've got 802 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 5: to start emphathizing with the victims and not the criminals. Okay, 803 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 5: the victims of these crimes are in many cases people 804 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 5: who live in who live in the city. They're typically 805 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 5: not visitors. There are people who call Cincinnati home. And 806 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 5: you're not protecting the innocent people of Cincinnati from the 807 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 5: criminals in Cincinnati. And it doesn't take much. You start 808 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 5: arresting people for committing crimes and putting them in jail, 809 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 5: and that will send a message to other peoples, do 810 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 5: not do this. Uh, it will act as a deterrent. 811 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 5: But right now, if you send the message that if 812 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 5: you commit a crime there will be no consequences, that 813 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 5: is an incentive. That is that is basically saying, go 814 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 5: ahead and commit crimes in Cincinnati. 815 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: I wish it. 816 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 5: I wish it. I wish admonishment and stern warnings were 817 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 5: enough in the world. 818 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: But they're not confrontations. We're going to We're going to. 819 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 5: Confront on accountability. And that means that every once in 820 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 5: a while. That means that every once in a while 821 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 5: somebody is unfortunately going to go to jail and going 822 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 5: to go to prison. But that sends the message that 823 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 5: that behavior will not be tolerant. Tolerated. It becomes a 824 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 5: community standard in which people follow it. Community standards are 825 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 5: set by your leadership, your leadership and the law enforcement 826 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 5: and your judges. And if they don't set a community 827 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 5: standard that crime will not be tolerated, then they will 828 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 5: set a community center by default that crime will be tolerated. 829 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: Before we talk about the government shut down. Two different 830 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 1: judges have told me that the af tad Peer of 831 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: All the mayor at these endorsement opportunities for their Democratic 832 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: liberal judges would always ask the question do you believe 833 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: in the restorative justice? Do you believe in no cash bonds? 834 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: And do you believe in treatment and lieu of incarceration. 835 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: Unless the judges answer, I believe in all those things 836 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: aftered Peer of All and the Hamilty County Democratic Party, 837 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: you will not get the endorsement. 838 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 2: And so on the bench. 839 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: Now we have restorative justice thirty and forty year old, 840 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: largely females who came out of the movement of jails 841 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: or a waste of time, that jails hurt inmates more 842 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: than they assist, and that we believe in restorative justice 843 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: and therefore we won't send people to jail. And the 844 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: Hamony Counties you know right now, Senator Hamlin County is 845 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: teetering to becoming Chicago sortive justice. 846 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a nice thing to say. You know, 847 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 5: where you restore justice, you get people off the streets. 848 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 5: You give justice to the victims. Okay first of all, 849 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 5: and you know what we do in our prisons. We 850 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 5: give people a chance to rehabilitate themselves. It's a department 851 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 5: of rehabilitations, corrections. And once you're in prison, you can 852 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 5: go still earn credentials to get a job. You can 853 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 5: do all these things while you're in prisons, but you're 854 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 5: off the streets keeping people safe when that's happening. That's 855 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 5: how you restore somebody. You say, there's a consequence if 856 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 5: you don't behave We'll give you a chance when you 857 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 5: get out of here to go to work, because we're 858 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 5: going to help you get a job, skill. But you're 859 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 5: not going to be committing crimes on our street and 860 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 5: making victim and and we're going to protect the victims. 861 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 5: We're going to protect the standard of what it means. 862 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 5: That's that's the way you do restorative justice. 863 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: Ultimately, Senator, we have the government we deserve and we 864 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: don't deserve if you keep voting for the same individuals 865 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: anticipating a different result. 866 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 2: Nothing's going to change. About a minute remaining. 867 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: Can you give us an update on the government shutdown 868 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 1: which Chuck Schumer demands to occur. It's happening, Republicans say 869 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: a clean CR. Democrats won one point five trillion dollars 870 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: are more spending. Give us an update on the shutdown. 871 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 5: The Schumer shutdown continues. We're going to vote again today. 872 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 5: This will be the ninth time that I will have 873 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 5: voted to keep the government open, clean CR, keep funding 874 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 5: at the current levels. But Chuck Schumer, really, he really 875 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 5: exposed himself last week literally in the sense that he said, well, 876 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 5: every day that the government shut down goes on, it's 877 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 5: better for us, meaning Democrats. Well, you know what, that 878 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 5: really exposes his motivation because it's really about politics to him. 879 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 5: It's not the American people. 880 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: It's not about. 881 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 5: Whether our military get paid. It's not whether our air 882 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 5: traffic controllers get paid. It's not whether our first responders 883 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 5: get paid. It's whether Chuck Schumer can score political points 884 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 5: and keep his job because he's scared of AOC running 885 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 5: against him in a primary in New York. And so 886 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 5: we're being we're being run by the radical left here 887 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 5: in this nation right now, because it requires sixty votes 888 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 5: Senate to get the government back open. We've had three 889 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 5: Democrats vote with us. We just need five more. But 890 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 5: we will not relent. We're not going to give in 891 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 5: to him wanting to fund health care for illegal immigrants. 892 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 5: We're not going to give in to his massive spending proposals. 893 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 5: We're gonna we're gonna do this the right way. We're 894 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 5: gonna remain strong. 895 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 2: As long as it takes. But I hope things change 896 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. 897 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: We have an election in two and a half weeks, 898 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: and if you don't change direction, you'll get more of 899 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: the same. 900 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: Senator John, Yeah, go. 901 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 5: Ahead, Bill, just just quickly. If you don't protect people 902 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 5: and their property, they're gonna leave. They're gonna leave, Cincinnati, 903 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 5: businesses will leave, people won't comfort to use your restaurants. 904 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 5: And you've got to restore public order and protect the 905 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 5: people of Cincinnati. 906 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, uh, Senator after a peer of all gives 907 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: mouth service to that. He always talks My job one 908 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: two and three is public safety, and if that's his 909 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: job one two and three, he needs to be unemployed. 910 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: So Senator John used to get my best everyone in Washington, 911 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, 912 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: John Senator, thank you, thank you. All right, let's continue 913 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: with more. It's up to you. The truth will set 914 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: you free. Voting for the same anticipating different result is 915 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: the definition of stupidity. Bill Cunningham, News Radio, seven hundreds WLW. 916 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 8: My message to everybody, learn how to behave in our city, 917 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 8: but especially learn how to behave in our downtown and 918 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 8: our Fountain Square. Do not come down town, especially on 919 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 8: Fountain Square if you don't know how to behave. 920 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: And that's how it should be. And so that'd being said, 921 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 2: I'll shut up and open it up with questions. 922 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 9: Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting. 923 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 8: I see you, you see me, I see you. 924 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 2: I'm watching you, sag. 925 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 10: That's our ill tell you what will you? You're scared now, 926 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 10: I tell you I'm not going downtown. 927 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 5: Hi. 928 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm the chief of police. 929 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 2: Like Gunsmoker the rifleman down there. 930 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: I think my picture belongs on a Dutch paint can. 931 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm the chief of police. And if you misbehave, I 932 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: see you, I know you. I'm gonna give you a time. 933 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 2: They see you down there, time out. She sees you. 934 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you. 935 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a time out, okay, So please 936 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: follow the law with breaking in the cars and shooting people. 937 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: Because I see you and I'm concerned about you. 938 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 2: Sig Man. You know what I'm saying. 939 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. Say yeah, are you concerned? 940 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 10: How many businesses are gonna be pulling out of down? 941 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 2: Test all of them? Segment we have golfing royalty here? 942 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 2: You sure do? Willie? Explain to me. 943 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: Now we talk about state champions every now and every 944 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: now and then Deer Park will go undefeed it on top? 945 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: I mean, how many? How many is Zupper sell maryon one? 946 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 2: Four in a row, four in rowd? I got another one. 947 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 10: It's four consecutive, four consecutive state off state titles. 948 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: Alter Knights are here. Segment introduced the coach and the players. 949 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 10: Please will you let's see they shot a three hundred 950 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 10: and fourteen. That's not good to win the Divis to 951 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 10: Boys State Golf Championship at NCR Country Club. 952 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 2: Their best player shot three hundred and fourteen. 953 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: No, it is a team. Oh, a team a team 954 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: event not It's not like how you cheat. But the 955 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,479 Speaker 1: coach is here, the team is here. So coach, taken away, 956 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: Take it away, coach, You're right here. 957 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,280 Speaker 11: I'm Alex Suster, head coach of the Knights. 958 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 2: And how many years have you been there, Alex. 959 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 11: Is eleven years with the golf program. 960 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna stick whether. 961 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 11: Or not, you know, I know we planned to go 962 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 11: anywhere eleven. 963 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 2: How many state titles have you won? 964 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 11: Four in a row? 965 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: Four in a row, and the Ryder Cup has got 966 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: a hold of you. At PGA of America there are negotiating. 967 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 11: Is better than it's going to be a negotiation. 968 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 2: Could have done better at Beth Page Black with these kids. 969 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,919 Speaker 1: These kids introduce your players and who they are, their names, 970 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: and plus have a few questions to ask later on. 971 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 11: All right, awesome, so we have with this today. Junior 972 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 11: Matthew Crush. He was also second team All state performer 973 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 11: in last year's individual state champion in Division two. 974 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 2: Matthew, what kind of putter do you have? If I 975 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 2: have a tailor made spider. 976 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: Spider, what is the what is the loft, what is 977 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: the angle of the putter face? 978 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: What is it way? What kind of grip do you have? 979 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't really know much about that story. You know 980 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 2: how to put the ball in the like they put 981 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 2: the ball in the hole. 982 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the goal you shot us seventy nine, right, 983 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 10: I did, Yes, there you go. 984 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: I did you do it the second nine? I was 985 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 2: playing better on the back nine the second day and 986 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: that seventy nine tough golf course. Yeah? Did you move 987 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 2: the ball on the rough at all? Did you cheat 988 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 2: it all? I? No, he didn't do it all. 989 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 1: Did you drop a ball out of your pant leg 990 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: when you couldn't find it? Next up, coach, All right, we. 991 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 11: Got Charlie Anderson Sier. He's also a second team All 992 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 11: State performer this year. 993 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: Charlie, A few questions for you right now? Who's the 994 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: top golfer in the world. Who's number two? 995 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 11: Okay? 996 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,439 Speaker 1: What is the recent successes? What are the last three 997 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: tournaments won by Rory McElroy? 998 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 2: Masters have Tubble Beach and the players very good. That 999 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 2: kid's pretty smart. 1000 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, since you're so smart, what is the 1001 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: capital of the state of Pennsylvania? 1002 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: That's then Harisburg? Damn go ahead, coach, introduce some. 1003 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 11: More right, Third, I got uh confused? Looking one over 1004 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 11: there is Lucas Synos. He looks you looks yeah, senior 1005 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 11: at our was our foreman at the state tournament team. 1006 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: This year you're with the anchor something like that. Clean up, 1007 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 2: clean up, hit her. Who's the Attorney General in the 1008 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 2: United States of America. I don't know. 1009 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: Oh what is the square root of eighty one? 1010 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 2: At least continued. 1011 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 11: Coaching, he said, I finally we have our first alternate 1012 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 11: senior A J. 1013 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 2: Mahoney, Aj, how are you doing? I'm doing very good. 1014 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 2: Are you going to school after kettering? Altar? Where are 1015 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 2: you going to go? If anywhere? I planned to study 1016 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 2: business at University of Dayton, the home of the Flyers. 1017 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: Yes, don Donaghuer, Yes, say hi to him. When you 1018 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: say it, I think he's dead. Coach, So tell me 1019 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: in the last tell me how the tournament won. Tell 1020 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: me about the tournament. 1021 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: I won it all? 1022 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 11: Well, you know it was it was really great at 1023 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 11: being up at nts Our Country Club, which was of 1024 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 11: course we're a little bit more familiar with, and then 1025 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 11: some of the others. We went out and you know, 1026 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 11: just to play with a lot of confidence. Uh, you know, 1027 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 11: day one it was close. You know, we only had 1028 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,439 Speaker 11: a had a shoe stroke victoria first round. And well, 1029 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 11: day two we went out and Dayton got pounded last 1030 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 11: Tuesday with like record setting rain. 1031 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 2: Like once in the whole summer is one of the. 1032 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 11: Most rain in like ninety four years that Dayton's gotten 1033 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 11: in the day. So we went out, we played. We 1034 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 11: knew after day one there was a chance Day two 1035 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 11: wasn't gonna happen, but they put us out there anyway. 1036 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 11: After a little delay, we played about half right exactly rain, 1037 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 11: and we we increased the lead to about nine strokes 1038 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 11: by the time they called play. We sat in the 1039 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 11: clubhouse for a couple of hours and then they they 1040 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 11: called it, and. 1041 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,160 Speaker 2: We were determined. 1042 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 11: We were determined to be the champion. 1043 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: I asked a question of the seniors. Let's say your 1044 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 1: ball is near Let's say your ball is on the 1045 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: card path one hundred yards from the grand It's in 1046 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: the middle all the card path. Number one, Can you 1047 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: play it off the card path if you want to? 1048 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 2: Sir? Now, how do you take a drop? If you 1049 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: want to drop it from the card path? If it's 1050 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 2: in the middle of the card path, what do you do? 1051 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: If anything, find. 1052 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 5: Your nearest point no closer to the hole, and you 1053 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 5: get a stroke from the nearest point early you get. 1054 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: A club length from and you take you take your stance, 1055 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: then you get a club length from the ball, and 1056 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,399 Speaker 1: then you drop the ball within that length. 1057 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: Is that correct? 1058 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 10: You said that happened to you the other day, and 1059 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 10: you just kicked it into the grass. 1060 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 2: I kicked it. I kept looking around, no one watching me. 1061 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: I kicked it in the It was like judge smail 1062 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: a caddy shack. Then go let me ask some more questions. 1063 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: Let's say you come up to a pond. You gotta 1064 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 1: come up to a pond, and one pond is marked 1065 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: with a red line. The other pond is marked with 1066 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: a yellow line. How's the red line different than the 1067 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 1: yellow line? 1068 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 2: You know, the red line? You can take. You've got 1069 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 2: a couple options. 1070 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 12: You can take the line of entry, you can take 1071 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 12: two club lengths from the point of entry, and you 1072 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 12: can also go back and play. You can play you 1073 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 12: can play from inside the red pell the area, and 1074 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 12: you can go back to where you hit the shop. 1075 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: What about a yellow line? What's the difference? You only 1076 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: get back on the line or the back of the line. 1077 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 2: Go back as far as you want to go back 1078 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 2: one hundred yards if you want flag the flag flagging 1079 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 2: the point of entry everyone knows. That's correct. 1080 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 10: I thought that was the amount of alligators that were 1081 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 10: in the pond. Been some alligators. Read there's baked ones yellow, 1082 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 10: their smaller ones. Give me some sports. 1083 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 1: I can make it fast out more questions to ask 1084 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: these young men about politics, sports and the fluvial process 1085 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: is a GM morphology. 1086 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 10: Will he the STUOT Reporter is the proud service every 1087 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 10: local tame Star heating and air conditioning dealers Tamestar quality 1088 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 10: you could feel in Cincinnati. Cole Sheldon Braun at Broun 1089 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 10: Heating at five one, three, three eight, five seventy seven 1090 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 10: sixty five. 1091 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: Give me, I mean three of the five rights in 1092 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: the First Amendment the US Constitution, the freedom. 1093 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: Of what, press, assembly, speech. That's it right there, say 1094 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: please continue. 1095 00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 11: Let's me answer to these questions or not. 1096 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 2: You're the coach. You don't know the answer, do you? 1097 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: What's in the eighth Amendment? 1098 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 11: Eighth Amendment? Usual punishment like. 1099 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 10: This, show your rat's while you're here. Cruel and unusual punishment. 1100 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: Every day, smart Deer Park, we don't have a golf team. 1101 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 10: Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party 1102 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 10: Town with thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky AFC in 1103 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 10: the North Battle Tomorrow Night. Willie Steelers and Bengals previewed 1104 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 10: the game tonight Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by Tafe Round 1105 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 10: Table Show presented by Postman Law. 1106 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: Get the plug live from Long Necks and rich Wood. 1107 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: You guys don't drink so five? How about wine? Little 1108 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: wine at church? 1109 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 10: Good answer. They're raffling off two tickets to tomorrow night's game. 1110 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 10: Will he tonight at Long Necks and Matter Richwood. If 1111 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 10: you want to get there, get there early. 1112 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 2: Lancel Lance will take care of day frontest. This guy 1113 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 2: might be an alder boy. 1114 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 10: Let's see, Mike is SICKI the tight end is out 1115 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 10: for four games with a pectoral injury. 1116 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: All right, boys, what's a pectoral muscle? All right here 1117 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 2: up in your chest? Please continue. 1118 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 10: Shamar Stewart's gonna play. He's missed the last four with 1119 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 10: an ankle injury. And Andrew Whitworth is the ruler of 1120 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 10: the Jungles Tomorrow night. Do you think Tomorrow night at 1121 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 10: the Bengals. You might recall when the Bengals went to 1122 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,919 Speaker 10: the Super Bowl, at one point there were two and four. 1123 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 10: This year, once again, they're two and four. They got 1124 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 10: the next three games at home. They win those three games. 1125 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 10: Add those up. 1126 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 2: What's the record down of the Bengals? Very good? Right there. 1127 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: That's why he's got a three hand plus three five 1128 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: and four, the same as twenty twenty one. Do you 1129 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: think Joe Flacco will be so good that Burrough's got 1130 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: to fight for his job when he comes back? 1131 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 2: I sure hope. So please continue college basketball? 1132 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 10: You see, graduate forward Jalen Haynes has been ruled out 1133 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 10: indefinitely for the Bearcats with an undisclosed lower body injury. 1134 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 10: He was heard in practice on Monday. 1135 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 2: Where's the humorous bone located rights? Very good? Please continue? 1136 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 10: The Bearcats play an exhibition game against Michigan Friday night. 1137 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 2: What are you liking that matchup? Boys? Give me the 1138 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Wolvergines please mission. 1139 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 10: Red's infielders Spencer Steer and key Brian Hayes are both 1140 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 10: finalists for the Rawlings Gold Glove Award. 1141 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 2: Hayes did a great job at third, so did Steer. 1142 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: Who is the current NCAA Men's basketball champion College Division 1143 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: one men's basketball champion Florida? 1144 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Very good? Who's the current football champion though? Buckeyes? Baby? 1145 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 2: Who's the current baseball champion tenn LSU. These kids are smart. 1146 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Please continue. 1147 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 10: Let's see Willie Yoshi Yatamoto and you say that again. 1148 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 10: Tossed a complete game three hitter last night, Dodgers over 1149 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 10: the Brewers five to one. So La goes home now 1150 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 10: up two games to none in the NLCS. The ALCS 1151 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 10: continues tonight in Seattle. How many US Senators are there? 1152 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 10: The number? 1153 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Please continue? 1154 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 10: And ALCS continues to night and with the Mariners up 1155 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 10: to or against the Jays? 1156 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: How many members House of Representatives three sixty two? 1157 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Nope, born to thirty six five. That's it right there. 1158 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: But he's continue. 1159 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 10: College golf, Willie, we say congrats to Xavier. They won 1160 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 10: the Moraine and Intercollegiate Attorney in Dayton. 1161 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: Can you beat Xavior? They wound up at twenty under par. 1162 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 2: Can you beat twenty under? Yes? 1163 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,439 Speaker 1: Why did you challenge the Musketeers at NCR and see 1164 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: what kind of men they are? 1165 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: You guys? Will you have them? 1166 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 10: Mountain freshman freshman Case Morgan out of Elder took home 1167 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,919 Speaker 10: medalist honors at a seventy eight finish at nine under. 1168 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 2: It was the second president of the United States of America. 1169 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Number two. 1170 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 10: Bearcat Cincinnai Bearcats men's golf team is sixth overall in 1171 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 10: a tournament in North and South Carolina. 1172 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: One of the three descriptions of rocks and geomorphology description. 1173 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 5: Of rocks. 1174 01:01:53,800 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: US sedimentary and metamorphic. Holy moly, I couldn't have got 1175 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 2: that of you. You can't say it and you can't spell. 1176 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 2: I can't thank you. I'm glad, I can't. Are you 1177 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 2: like national mayor scholarships? 1178 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: You're like a ds that you guys aren't smarter at Allogy? 1179 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Do you love fluvial processes? I love that stuff? What 1180 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: great at the Grand Canyon Rose water fluvial? 1181 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 2: How about that? The three kinds of rocks came right 1182 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 2: out of him, rocks in his head. I guess you 1183 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 2: knows exactly what they are. 1184 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 4: Belo. 1185 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: We all that's it? Well, coach, Why does that look 1186 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: next year? For keddering Older went four in a row. 1187 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: How does it look next year? 1188 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 10: Uh? 1189 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 11: We're looking forward to next season. You know, every every 1190 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 11: new season brings new challenges. We're gonna miss these graduating players. 1191 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 11: We have actually twelve seniors in the program. Mere Lissa, 1192 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 11: we're losing this season. Don't rebuild your reload Yeah, that's 1193 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 11: the plan. You know, you've got young guys that are 1194 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 11: ready to ready to play up and do it, and 1195 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 11: you know we're looking forward to the challenges. I know, 1196 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 11: I know Matt wants to leave the team next year. 1197 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods guys, we had to run. Wait come back 1198 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: next year. If you Wednesday title sounds good on seven 1199 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: hundred WLW. 1200 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 2: You know, things changing radio. 1201 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: We had scheduled Britney Ruby Miller to be here at 1202 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: two of five, and she sent a very heartfelt apology 1203 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: about a half an hour ago that she said, something's 1204 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: come up at two o'clock and I can't be on. 1205 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: So I sent her back a next text saying, hey, 1206 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: I understand things happen, see what occurs, et cetera, and 1207 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: that's all I can do. And she wants to come 1208 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: on tomorrow to talk about what's happening today, But yours 1209 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: truly is going to take a week off. This my 1210 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: last day for the next seven days. So in a 1211 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: relationship to this, I made many many calls thither and 1212 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: fro to find out why what's happening at two o'clock 1213 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Because the people I talked to all had the same thing. 1214 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: I can do it at three. I can't do it 1215 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: at two. I can do it tomorrow. I can't do 1216 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: it at too. Something's happening at two o'clock. And according 1217 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 1: to my horses in city Hall, the Chief of Police, 1218 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Teresa Thigi is being fired or shall we say, retired, 1219 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: because she followed the dictates of the mayor to a letter, 1220 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: doing exactly what the mayor wanted. And now that she's 1221 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: followed the dictates of Cheryl Long and the mayor and 1222 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: things haven't turned out so well, the mayor is cutting 1223 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: loose the chief of police. A man with's perspective on 1224 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 1: this is Steve Gooden, a candidate for city council, has 1225 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: been on council before. Steve Gooden, Welcome again to the 1226 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,439 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And so I would ask you that 1227 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I had five or six calls in the numerous people 1228 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: in the know, all of whom would tell me that 1229 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: today that the chief of Police, Teresa Thiji is getting fired. 1230 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Your comments, well, I'm hearing the same thing, I believe, 1231 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: and it's a shame, but it's very predictable, and frankly 1232 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: it's long overdue. I mean, I was somebody who was 1233 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 1: out here this summer saying that she had to go. 1234 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 1: She's absolutely lost the confidence of the rank and file. 1235 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 1: The morale at police department is in the toilet. She 1236 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: has not been advocating for the right kinds of staffing 1237 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 1: for ever since she's been chief. She's been providing political 1238 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: cover for the mayor and the city manager and this 1239 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: kind of worthless city council that. 1240 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 4: We have right now. So if you're going to live 1241 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 4: by the sword, you die of the sword. If you're 1242 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 4: going to act like a political person rather than the 1243 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 4: civil servant you're supposed to be, if you're not going 1244 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 4: to advocate for your troops and rank and file, and 1245 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 4: you're going to play the political game, then I guess 1246 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 4: you die of political death. So she has become a 1247 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 4: national joke, particularly. 1248 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 2: With that bizarre. 1249 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 4: Press conference she gave him down at City Hall where 1250 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 4: she said the word unacceptable five times, reminding me of 1251 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 4: my middle school teacher who used to shout unacceptable of 1252 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 4: me rightfully in the early eighties. And it was just terrible. 1253 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 4: It looked like she was trying to scold these young, 1254 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 4: violent people into giving up their guns. The other beautiful 1255 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 4: things she did yesterday was telling the guy to turn 1256 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 4: it who shot up the restaurant to turn himself in. 1257 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 2: I don't think he was. 1258 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 4: I don't think he's really inclined to do that since 1259 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 4: she is already a convicted felon. So she looks sweet. 1260 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 4: She's set a horrible example, both on the politics side 1261 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 4: and just the way she comports herself. I mean, I 1262 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 4: don't want to sound like Pete Hegstratt here, but she 1263 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 4: doesn't look like you know. She's not inspiring confidence from 1264 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 4: any standard, whether it be from the physical fitness standards, 1265 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 4: all the way down. They deserve better, They need better. 1266 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 4: They need a chief who will actually be independent and 1267 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 4: stand up to the mayor. The chief doesn't work for 1268 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 4: the mayor in our system, so they don't. 1269 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 1: But I've been told by many officers she's lost the 1270 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,959 Speaker 1: respect of her command staff. They don't pay attention to her. 1271 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: That the cops are overwhelmed with work. Sixty hours a 1272 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: week is presumed to be demanded. Many cops don't want 1273 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: to do it, they don't feel supported. But the unknown 1274 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: about this, I would assume as the last three or 1275 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: four years have gone by, I think she's been there 1276 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: about three years, I would assume everything she did, despite 1277 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: her bad form and doing so is something I have 1278 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: to have. Pierraval want it done. And now that it did, 1279 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 1: his policies did not turn out well, he wants to 1280 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: step aside and eat a sacrificial lamb, and that lamb 1281 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: is chief of police. 1282 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Thiji your comments. 1283 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 4: No, I think that's absolutely correct. I mean, look, she's 1284 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 4: a victim here. I mean, she participated in her own victimhood. 1285 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 4: She knew better than this of most of it. And look, 1286 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 4: I like her. I've known her for years. And the 1287 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 4: family is great. There's a lot of officers in that 1288 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 4: family are a great you know, west side family, and 1289 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 4: no disrespect to them at all. But I mean, you know, look, 1290 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 4: this is not this is all aft to have. He 1291 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 4: goes out and talks about quote his team, and he 1292 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 4: includes her, includes a city manager, and they're supposed to 1293 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 4: be politely adversarial. I mean, the city manager is supposed 1294 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 4: to be advocating, you know, for the chief, for the police. 1295 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 4: They're not all supposed to be working together. In fact, 1296 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 4: it's very timely. Just this morning, I open my mailbox 1297 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 4: and I have a mailer from one of the city 1298 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 4: council candidates where he's posing with the chief in uniform, 1299 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 4: which is blatantly illegal. She's like in a political mailer, 1300 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 4: a paid political mailer. And I was thinking, you know, 1301 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 4: if I had the time and energy, we file a complaint. 1302 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 4: But since I figured she was getting fired today, we're 1303 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 4: not going to bother with it. But I mean, that's 1304 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 4: how bad it is and how political it is. The 1305 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 4: great chiefs of yesteryear wouldn't dream to be in a 1306 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 4: political ad. What's an elected official? So that's just how 1307 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 4: bad and blurry the lines are down there. And that's 1308 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 4: why I do worry who's next. I don't really have 1309 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 4: a good sense of that. Every time with this current group, 1310 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,759 Speaker 4: you think they're making a step in the right direction, 1311 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of a be careful what you 1312 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,639 Speaker 4: wish for a thing. I have no idea who they 1313 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 4: have lined up behind her at this point. But this 1314 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,840 Speaker 4: is a sad day for her. It's a sad day 1315 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 4: for the city. But it's very predictable. So again, she 1316 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 4: made herself a political actor. She's going to die of 1317 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 4: political death here. 1318 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: It looks like, well, it's sad because she was put 1319 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: in a position that she's not really qualify for. She 1320 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: performed poorly because she implemented the policies of after pure 1321 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 1: of all the policy has now been implemented. They failed, 1322 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 1: and now the sheriff is stepping up. I had on 1323 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: earlier Senator John Houston. They're close to calling in the 1324 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 1: National Guard because of jd Vance and Euston is very 1325 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: close to the situation and we don't want that. And 1326 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: the sheriff wants to take over and do more police 1327 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: functioning in the city because the city command staff and 1328 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the officers do not respect Fiji. And part of the 1329 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: problem also is that the judges at Hamlet County. You 1330 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: may now had on Judge Josh Berkerwitz a couple hours ago. 1331 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: He's the presiding judge. Half the judges believe because of 1332 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,280 Speaker 1: George Floyd effect. Half the judges believe, you know, and 1333 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 1: no cash bonds. Half the judges believe in putting nobody 1334 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: in jail. What about that element, Well. 1335 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 4: That's a huge part of what's going on here, and 1336 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 4: a lot of that goes right back to Aftab too. 1337 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 4: When he was clerk at Gortz, he was pushing these 1338 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 4: judicial candidates, he was pushing these kinds of policies. He 1339 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 4: ran the courthouse into the ground. He's doing this too. 1340 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 4: And look This is the same stuff you know that 1341 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 4: you saw out at in Washington State, in Portland and 1342 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 4: in California, and all these kinds of policies are being 1343 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 4: rejected out there too. I mean, they just don't work. 1344 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 4: No matter how well meaning they are, they don't work. 1345 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 4: You can't keep it committee. You cannot keep a community 1346 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 4: safe by letting violent people out. This guy who the 1347 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 4: guy that David announced his name, the guy who shot 1348 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 4: up the restaurant of Fountains Square two nights ago. We 1349 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,720 Speaker 4: know he was on probation for a gun offence, you know, 1350 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,839 Speaker 4: weapons under disability charge. So I mean, so he shouldn't 1351 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 4: have been out, arguably, or at least they should have 1352 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 4: known exactly where he was, so that the courthouse and 1353 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 4: the city all at all, the failures all overlap, and 1354 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 4: it's the same personnel. 1355 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 2: Really, all right, we got to run. 1356 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: I have mayor candidate Corey Bowman calling in and Steve Gooden, 1357 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,799 Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thanks for Colin, and I appreciate 1358 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 1: the call. Thank you anytime. Thank you, sir. Let's continue. 1359 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Let's go to the mayor to be Corey Bowman. Corey, 1360 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: and every indications are that the chief of police Thiegi 1361 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 1: is going to be fired. Head guests on at two 1362 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 1: o'clock and this critical meeting I was told off the air. Yes, 1363 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 1: assuming that's the case, what is your reaction as the 1364 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: man who would be mayor? 1365 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 7: Well, I think it's exactly what you said, is that 1366 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 7: you know, Chief Sigi was just implementing her directives from 1367 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 7: the top down. You know we've started this from the 1368 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 7: top down. There is incompetence and so everybody wants to 1369 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 7: throw the chief underneath the bus right thing is is 1370 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,759 Speaker 7: that this is reflecting the failure of city Hall starting 1371 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 7: with Mayor a Fat Purval. 1372 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: And as far as the news conference yesterday, I think 1373 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: the mayor conceded as policies have not worked. They have 1374 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 1: not worked the past four years. They're not going to 1375 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: work into the future. And just before the election they 1376 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 1: need a scapegoat, and that scapegoat is a career company 1377 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,719 Speaker 1: named Thiji, and they want to blame her, Cheryl Long, 1378 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: and I would assume counsel and the Mayor used and 1379 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: abused her to implement their policies and now that they've failed, 1380 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 1: they want to hook it on her step aside and 1381 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 1: appoint someone else. 1382 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:09,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1383 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 7: You're exactly right. But here's the thing that we have 1384 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 7: to see as is that with the mayor after Burval 1385 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 7: in office, you're going to have the same legit. You're 1386 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 7: going to have the same reasoning when it comes to 1387 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,599 Speaker 7: the next chief, when it comes to the city manager. 1388 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,640 Speaker 7: These policies don't stop with just the firing of a 1389 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 7: police chief. These policies have been implemented the last four years, 1390 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 7: and you're seeing a lot of the crime that's going 1391 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 7: to be taken care of in the next few days 1392 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 7: for optics. But what do you think is going to 1393 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 7: happen after November. It's not an election year anymore, so 1394 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,759 Speaker 7: they're going to go right back to these failed policies 1395 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,040 Speaker 7: until the next election season. And I don't think that's right. 1396 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, Assuming you win the mayor's office, and many 1397 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 1: knowledgeable people say you have a pretty good shot at it, 1398 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: what would you look for in the next chief of police. 1399 01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 7: You've got to be able to look at not only 1400 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 7: only people that have the competence of knowing what they're 1401 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,639 Speaker 7: doing on the streets, but I really believe that you've 1402 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 7: got to bring somebody in that knows Cincinnati, that knows 1403 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 7: the issues. You can't necessarily have just a parachute position 1404 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 7: come in and fix everything. Cincinnati is a very rare, 1405 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 7: unique city with Citty two neighborhoods. Logistically, you've got to 1406 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,719 Speaker 7: have somebody that knows what they're doing when it comes 1407 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 7: to that. But at the same time, you have to 1408 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 7: have somebody that knows the issues that we're facing right now. 1409 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 7: Five people shot on Monday night two and Fountain Square. 1410 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 7: These are things that have to be taken care of 1411 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 7: from day one. They can't just be something that we 1412 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 7: gradually get into. We've got to hit this thing head off. 1413 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 1: In a sense, Cincinnati's at the low EBB. But I'm 1414 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: told by some that Procter and Gambles grossly expanding their 1415 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: footprint in Mason. There are many big employers in town 1416 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: like Fifth Third Bank and Kroger and others that tell 1417 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: their employees if you're if you're don't feel safe coming 1418 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: and leaving work, you may stay at home and work there. 1419 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 1: And I think there goes the tax base of the 1420 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati. Restaurant tours have told me reservations are 1421 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 1: being canceled. Willy Nilly. I'm told there's no hotel being 1422 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 1: built next to the convention Center because they can't get 1423 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 1: financing because many of the banks around the country don't 1424 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 1: want to finance it. In case things aren't going well, 1425 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Two large conventions have canceled at the new convention Center 1426 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 1: to open up in January or February without a hotel 1427 01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 1: next to it. Conventions are canceling, and the idea that 1428 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,679 Speaker 1: public safety should be a job one when it comes 1429 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: to setting a bond is something that judges ignore, willy nilly. 1430 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 1: And So if you become the mayor and don't have 1431 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: a working council with you, and I don't anticipate that 1432 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: council is going to stay the same, It's going to 1433 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 1: be completely different. How will you work with a council 1434 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: filled with Democrats and you're going to be the Republican mayor? 1435 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 2: How would that work? 1436 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 4: Well? 1437 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 7: Number one, it's not just the mayoral race. We've got 1438 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 7: to be able to see that. We've got a city 1439 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 7: council candidate that are running this year. Last time we 1440 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 7: had ten cans. It's running this year we have twenty five. 1441 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 7: We've got people like Christopher Smithman, We've got people like 1442 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 7: Linda Matthews, We've got people like Steve Gooden that running, 1443 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 7: they're gonna know how to handle this. And like you said, 1444 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 7: if you do have the majority Democrats, I believe that 1445 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,679 Speaker 7: there's enough common sense where we can actually work together 1446 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 7: to solve these issues. But you have to have leadership 1447 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 7: in place, in a strong mayor position that knows this 1448 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 7: has to be a priority. It just can't be on 1449 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 7: the backbron. 1450 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, now's the time and the mayor's acting politically. Having 1451 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: had someone to implement his polic policies, he can't come 1452 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 1: out and say, my policies have failed. I'm going to 1453 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 1: rescind my re election effort. I have failed. I'm going 1454 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,600 Speaker 1: to go back into the private sector. He's got to 1455 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 1: find an excuse for the failures of his policy, and 1456 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: that excuse is Teresa Thiji, whose huntire family have been 1457 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 1: cops for the last fifty years. And she doesn't look 1458 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 1: the part, doesn't act the part, and the fact of 1459 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,800 Speaker 1: the matter is she's doing in a substantively exactly what 1460 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the mayor wants her to do. And sharel Long allegedly's 1461 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 1: her boss. Share Along. You can't find her with a 1462 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,719 Speaker 1: search warrant, and so where in the hell of share Along? 1463 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 7: No, you're exactly right, because here's the thing. We've got 1464 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 7: to have leadership that just doesn't show up for photo ops. 1465 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,680 Speaker 7: We've got to have leadership that shows up for Cincinnati 1466 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 7: from day one. 1467 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. As I said, this 1468 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 1: is not confirmed yet. Everyone I talked to says she's 1469 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 1: going to get a copy of the home game sometime 1470 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 1: this afternoon, and they're going to point an interim chief 1471 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: that might be Captain Henny, might be someone like that 1472 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,679 Speaker 1: to implement the mayor's policies, which change after every riot, 1473 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: or after every shooting, or after every mass shooting event, 1474 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 1: the policies of the mayor change. And right now we're 1475 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 1: on the eve of the election, and Corey Bubman, none 1476 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,640 Speaker 1: of this will be going on right now if the 1477 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 1: election we're not like two and a half weeks away. 1478 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 1: But Corey will see what happens, and you're going to 1479 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 1: campaign hard through the finish line. 1480 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Correct. 1481 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 7: Absolutely, We've got less than three weeks to go. Early 1482 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,599 Speaker 7: votings open right now. People need to get the border 1483 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,639 Speaker 7: to the Board of Election, Tamilton County Board of Elections, Vote, vote, vote. 1484 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 7: But then November fourth is our last day of the election. 1485 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 7: And this is our time to base to be able 1486 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,600 Speaker 7: to put strong leadership in place. You know, one of 1487 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 7: the biggest things is that we have a shortage of 1488 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,719 Speaker 7: cops when it comes to being below the complement levels, 1489 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 7: and they implemented a lateral hiring recently and they didn't 1490 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 7: get the response that they wanted because nobody wants to 1491 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 7: work for this administration. You get the right leadership, you 1492 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 7: get a strong mayor in that position, then people are 1493 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 7: going to come and they're going to want to work 1494 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 7: for Cincinnati Police Department. That's what's going to change in November. 1495 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 1: You know, is really sick when the chief of police says, 1496 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 1: if you're committing serious crime, we're going to confront you. 1497 01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't confront it serious criminal. I'd arrest them. I'd 1498 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 1: say you're under arrest. And the reason some arrest are 1499 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 1: down is because twenty percent of the cops don't exist. 1500 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 1: And when you're down twenty percent of the cops, there's 1501 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 1: no one to arrest anybody. And the cops that are 1502 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,160 Speaker 1: in office don't want to get hands on with any 1503 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 1: they're encouraged not to arrest people. And so of course 1504 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,840 Speaker 1: crime is going to be statistically down as far as 1505 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 1: reporting when cops don't exist to arrest someone and the 1506 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: other cops aren't pulling people over because they're told not 1507 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,639 Speaker 1: to do that. A course, crime is going to be down, 1508 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 1: but the commission of crime is way up. Reporting of 1509 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 1: crime is down, commission of crime is way up. And 1510 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 1: we need to go back to the law enforcement of 1511 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 1: Larry Whalen and also a striker and people like that 1512 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: that enforce the law and let the chips fall with them. Ay, 1513 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 1: then if the judges don't do their job, then we 1514 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: got something else to focus on. It begins with cops 1515 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,439 Speaker 1: arresting criminals. Corey Bowman, good luck. I'll continue to follow 1516 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,639 Speaker 1: this story to see if and when Chief of Police 1517 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Stichi gets a copy of the home game. 1518 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 2: And Corey Bowman, thank you very much. 1519 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Bill for having me. 1520 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: God bless Let's continue with more. He's in his coffee 1521 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 1: shop on the West End right now, people coming and going. 1522 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. At two thirty and three 1523 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: o'clock and I had Brittany Ruby scheduled to two. She 1524 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: texted me about one fifteen saying something came up I 1525 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 1: can't get out of At two o'clock, I called four 1526 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 1: or five other people involved in their running of the city. 1527 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Each one of them sent me a text saying, I 1528 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: can do it at three o'clock. I can do it 1529 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,439 Speaker 1: at three fifteen. I can do it tomorrow, but I 1530 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,640 Speaker 1: can't do it at too. And I talked to a 1531 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,840 Speaker 1: police source who told me that Thieji's going to be 1532 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 1: fired this afternoon. And by the way, she's supposed to 1533 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,400 Speaker 1: be in Denver right now for three or four days 1534 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 1: of a chief of Police conference. So that's perfect. The 1535 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,640 Speaker 1: city is burning down, and then the city sends the 1536 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: chief of police one thousand miles away two twenty five. 1537 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Coming up after two thirty five is Justice Joseph TNT 1538 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Deaters with his walk up music on news radio seven 1539 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 1: hundred wlw F. 1540 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 9: Hello, Piet, I'm spokes I'm broadcasting. 1541 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 2: You know rock. 1542 01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 1: We have a special Justice Joe Eaters. You need the 1543 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: best from coloida An. He's here ready to march and 1544 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 1: glory and sees power once again. 1545 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 2: He wants to talk. He wants to talk, all right, 1546 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 2: talk him talk. Sharon Kennedy said, don't talk. Megan Shannan says, 1547 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,040 Speaker 2: talk talk. Let me let her rip. I'm going quiet 1548 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 2: down here. Comes the music. Here comes a good part 1549 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:28,000 Speaker 2: for jobs right now the sunset color TVs. 1550 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 13: Oh boy, boys, oh boy, there's two of us in here. 1551 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 13: Now I've finally got some backup talking about your lies. 1552 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 1: Women can't talk about women anymore, Joe, her. 1553 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 2: Women days are done done. Here come here comes the 1554 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 2: hook for the hook because I'm yeah, yeah, Joe. What 1555 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 2: brings you here? 1556 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: I know we need you to see you and Charlie 1557 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 1: Lucan or John Cranley would be great. And what brings 1558 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: you to the hallways of the Big One. 1559 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 2: You told me to come in. 1560 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 5: I know. 1561 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 2: Nothing else to do. I'll get you in trouble. There 1562 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 2: is a lot going on right now. Public safety. What 1563 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 2: does that mean? Public safety? Explain that? Can you talk 1564 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 2: at all? 1565 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1566 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 14: A little bit, But here's what I will say. And 1567 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 14: I know I've got a little bit of a gag 1568 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 14: on me right now. Everybody knows what works. They'll know 1569 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 14: Atab's not an idiot. These judges aren't idiots. They know 1570 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,479 Speaker 14: what works. They're just not willing to do it because 1571 01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:39,680 Speaker 14: of the. 1572 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 2: George Floyda facts. Well, they just they believe that. 1573 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,559 Speaker 14: I guess they believe their constituency does not want them 1574 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 14: to do. 1575 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 2: It, to do it put people in jail for crime. 1576 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 14: I mean, it's amazing to me. I heard you with 1577 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 14: Judge Berkowitz before. They've got two hundred and some beds 1578 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 14: empty in the We were trying to build jails when 1579 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,160 Speaker 14: I was there. 1580 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 2: Now you're evacuating them. 1581 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 14: Now they're laying off, you know, people working in the 1582 01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 14: jail because they don't have people there. 1583 01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:08,639 Speaker 2: Why aren't there people? I don't know. 1584 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,519 Speaker 14: The judges if you're remember, if you remember, and it's 1585 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 14: not just a Democrat thing or a Republican thing. We 1586 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:22,760 Speaker 14: had a Republican Chief Justice four years ago who decided 1587 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,760 Speaker 14: that judges should not consider safety when they set a 1588 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,240 Speaker 14: bond an arraignment. 1589 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,439 Speaker 2: And what did we have to do? 1590 01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 14: We had to get a constitutional amendment on the ballot 1591 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 14: to say that judges shall consider the safety of the community. 1592 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 2: And what are you doing? They ignore it? And I 1593 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 2: don't care. 1594 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,760 Speaker 1: What did they say? Give lip service? Yes, I consider that, 1595 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: no bond signed your name, You're gone. 1596 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 14: Well, the only the only recourses to uh not elect them. 1597 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 14: And unless you have the information on the judges doing that, 1598 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 14: you have no ability. 1599 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 2: To Are you happy with what you're doing now? And 1600 01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 2: they are I love it. 1601 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 14: I'm very frustrated when I watched to see what's happening 1602 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 14: in my city and. 1603 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Want to come back sees Power. 1604 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 14: No no, I mean if Missy Powers did her best 1605 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 14: to win that race and the demographics have changed, and 1606 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 14: you know, I think comedy's doing what she can do now. 1607 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 1: And you didn't bring this up, but Saint X. I 1608 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 1: was at dinner the other night at Trios and an 1609 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 1: old guy had to be in it had to be 1610 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 1: in his late seventies or eighties. An old guy comes 1611 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,600 Speaker 1: up to me and says, you know, I was the 1612 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 1: athletic director at Saint X where Rocky Boyman played at 1613 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: Saint X and he was a student. I said, what 1614 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 1: kind of student was He said, well, he had a 1615 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,679 Speaker 1: lot of jugs. In fact, we had the Board of Education, 1616 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,639 Speaker 1: which was a paddle had holes in it. 1617 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 2: Said. 1618 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: Board of Education used to give Rocky one or two 1619 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 1: a week, but each time he demanded pull his pants 1620 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 1: down before he got it so that he would feel 1621 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 1: more pain. Did you have any of those experiences? 1622 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 2: Jug? I hid indefinite jug. 1623 01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,360 Speaker 1: At one point ever, paddle like Rocky was no remember 1624 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 1: any of that stuff, but better memory your forgot. 1625 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 2: He was a better student than I was. I really wasn't, 1626 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:06,799 Speaker 2: he said, He said. 1627 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: You were such a good student. You helped other f 1628 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,639 Speaker 1: students get out of the dummy hall. Did that happen? 1629 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:12,759 Speaker 2: Helped them? 1630 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,320 Speaker 14: We went to I went to a sat X reunion 1631 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 14: this summer, okay, and these very wealthy guys are at 1632 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 14: this reunion that went to sant X with me, and 1633 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,560 Speaker 14: I didn't recognize any of them. And I quickly realized 1634 01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,640 Speaker 14: the reason is I was in the dumb classes at 1635 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,800 Speaker 14: st X and these guys were into smart classes that 1636 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,720 Speaker 14: I had introduced myself to him. 1637 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: You know, we tell tell me when you were tied 1638 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: to a goalpost. Never did that, and also gave the finger. 1639 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,840 Speaker 14: I gave the finger on the sophomore the reserve football picture. 1640 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,720 Speaker 2: We have that pictures that live anywhere. It still does live. 1641 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 14: But they they back then, they. 1642 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,040 Speaker 2: Did their best, smudged out. It was not good. But 1643 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 2: you got permanent jugs. They told me to report the 1644 01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 2: jug until we tell you to stop. What do you do? 1645 01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 2: What do you report the jug? What is that that 1646 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 2: way to get it? 1647 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,600 Speaker 14: It's like you know, detention and flash get yeah, just 1648 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 14: sit there and clar just kind of grunt work right lines, Yeah, 1649 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:15,080 Speaker 14: toothbrush and toilet well, and in the theme of what 1650 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,000 Speaker 14: we're talking about here is Joe just said earlier the 1651 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 14: problem that is right in the city, everyone knows what 1652 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,680 Speaker 14: to do, but they're unwilling to do it, which is 1653 01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 14: to have punishments for crimes. 1654 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 2: Jugs was was a punishment if. 1655 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 13: You were acting wrong, that's right, you had to go 1656 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,080 Speaker 13: do some things you didn't want to do and then 1657 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 13: guess what, not only did you not want to do 1658 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 13: that again, the other kids saw it and said, well, 1659 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,720 Speaker 13: I don't want to end up in jug like Torush 1660 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 13: showed deaters and Rocky boyman, I'm going to behave. 1661 01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,200 Speaker 14: You know there there has been one thing that's worked 1662 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 14: with urban crime, and that was, you know, whatever you 1663 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 14: think of Rudy Giuliani, what he did in the two 1664 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 14: thousands with New York City, late nineties with New York 1665 01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 14: City that broken windows theory and where the with the 1666 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 14: different captains that very precinct are held responsible in a 1667 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 14: track crime, I'm in real time. They say there's this 1668 01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,840 Speaker 14: hot spot here, there's been twelve break ins. They flood 1669 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 14: the area with cops and they really did stop what 1670 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,559 Speaker 14: was going on in New York. 1671 01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,879 Speaker 2: Well, nowhere else has that happened. 1672 01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,040 Speaker 14: And if you want to know what's going to happen 1673 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 14: to our city, which I love and I live in, 1674 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,880 Speaker 14: it's not hard to predict because it's happened across the 1675 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,200 Speaker 14: country with these types of policies that are in effect 1676 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 14: right now in the city. 1677 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Segment, give me some sports and make it fast. We've 1678 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 1: got more information about Henryson maybe going to the forty 1679 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 1: nine ers. 1680 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:34,040 Speaker 2: What can you tell me? 1681 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,599 Speaker 10: Will he the sto reporters of proud service of your 1682 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 10: local Tamestar Heating and air Conditioning dealers, Tamestar Quality. You 1683 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,000 Speaker 10: could feel a beautiful Cincinnati called Stacy Heating and Air 1684 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 10: Solutions five one, three, three, six seven h E A T. 1685 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 1: Spotch Justice Kennedy sending you a note to quiet down. 1686 01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 1: Yes see, speaking of that, can I can you show 1687 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 1: that a woman named Jordan Hudson Rocky You. 1688 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 2: Talk about her a lot, don't you. Oh my god, 1689 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 2: you talk about my nephew with her. 1690 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,639 Speaker 14: So I was at a deater's wedding this weekend, North Carolina, 1691 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 14: and she's a friend of the brides. 1692 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 2: They live very close to each other. Hudson and Bill 1693 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,160 Speaker 2: the wedding started at five o'clock. 1694 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,360 Speaker 14: So I have to preface the story with this. The 1695 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 14: wedding started at five o'clock. Now pretend you're at a wedding. 1696 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 13: He is more excited than I've seen him in years, 1697 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 13: by the way I understand. 1698 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,680 Speaker 2: Met her five o'clock. It started. How long would you 1699 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 2: last at that route? Eight o'clock? I'm done? Ok, eight o'clock, 1700 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:33,320 Speaker 2: that's what I thought. I'm done. 1701 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 14: I lasted till nine, that's it. And around ten I 1702 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 14: get a text from my brothers. Leave, guess who just 1703 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:45,639 Speaker 14: showed up? Jordan Hudson correct Belichick, No, he was traveling. 1704 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:51,800 Speaker 14: But the reports are that she was a delightful, very 1705 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 14: very nice young girl. I mean four years old and rich, 1706 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 14: well whatever she is, but she was very cool. So 1707 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 14: I sent my other picture of you. I said, I 1708 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 14: want you to show her this picture. God, yes, I 1709 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 14: want to show this picture because he talks about you 1710 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,200 Speaker 14: on the radio all the time. Showed to her, and 1711 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 14: I want you to write down exactly her reaction when 1712 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 14: she saw your picture. 1713 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 11: I have it. 1714 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 2: I know what I memorized. The response. I love to 1715 01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:27,519 Speaker 2: love you. 1716 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,360 Speaker 14: No, no, no, I'll tell you I love She looked 1717 01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:32,080 Speaker 14: at your picture. 1718 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 2: Baby. 1719 01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 14: She looked at your picture and said, e. 1720 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:45,680 Speaker 2: E w W. But that's all sorry, you're trying to 1721 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 2: what do you mean by? What do you mean by? 1722 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 2: And it wasn't like. 1723 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 10: It was like, I don't think she thought you would 1724 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,880 Speaker 10: look like Ronaldo that when that Ronald, my wife says, 1725 01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:01,479 Speaker 10: I look like Naldo said. 1726 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 13: Joe, let's cut to the chase. Heer your nephew or 1727 01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 13: whoever was did they say? She looks as good as 1728 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,760 Speaker 13: she does in person. She does like pictures and she 1729 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,920 Speaker 13: was just could not have been sweeter. I know what 1730 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 13: she's getting out of the Belichick relationship. What's he getting 1731 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 13: out of it? 1732 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Oh you have an idea. Well, 1733 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,960 Speaker 2: he was in a Volkswagen with Penny. I know that 1734 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,599 Speaker 2: is I don't. I just learned that information today, which 1735 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 2: I could have done without. Give me some sports. 1736 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 10: He brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town. 1737 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 10: That's where we're going after the show. Thirteen convenient locations 1738 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 10: in Kentucky, AFC, North Power, Tomorrow Night Paper, Previous Game Tonight, 1739 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 10: Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered by TOF Round Table Show or 1740 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,519 Speaker 10: Lance and Rock Yes Tonight. 1741 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 2: The round Table Show is tonight. 1742 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,679 Speaker 10: Six oh five long necks in rich Wood can't wait, 1743 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 10: and they're going to raffle off two tickets to tomorrow 1744 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:54,960 Speaker 10: night's game. 1745 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 2: I said at the show, what about Hendryson going to 1746 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers? I don't I have it right here? 1747 01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 10: Andrew Whitworth, former Bengals great number seventy seven, is going 1748 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:07,799 Speaker 10: to be ruler of the jungle. 1749 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 2: Can you put on a hell and shoulder pads? Might 1750 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 2: as well try it an still block. Mike is SICKI 1751 01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,679 Speaker 2: the tight end is on. I injured reserve for four games? 1752 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:21,599 Speaker 2: With that peck peck? What's a peck right there? Jordan Hudson. 1753 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,920 Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson has a couple of Red's update. 1754 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 10: Red's infielder Spencer Steer and key Brian Hayes are both 1755 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,120 Speaker 10: named finalists for the Gold Glove Awards at third base 1756 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 10: and first base. 1757 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,639 Speaker 2: Good luck did Ellie? Is he up for the Gold 1758 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,840 Speaker 2: Glove Award now? With sixty seven? What errors in two years? 1759 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,960 Speaker 2: The Brown Glove Award? Which one's he up? Probably he 1760 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,280 Speaker 2: belongs in right field. You're a great joe right center, 1761 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:51,880 Speaker 2: center center, and I'm gonna move right all right? Can 1762 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,720 Speaker 2: you do that? Sake? I'll call Terry world class shortstop. 1763 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 2: Moved him over there. What's his name like Arroyo? Is 1764 01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:59,719 Speaker 2: that his name? Edward? 1765 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 4: Yes? 1766 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 2: And then what about mcclaan. Can you actually hit it? 1767 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 2: At some point we'll see? How about third base? What 1768 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,800 Speaker 2: about Sal? What can Sal? Wh'res Sal? Just call Sally? 1769 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1770 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,439 Speaker 2: He's gonna you guys that can hit. It makes sense. 1771 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 2: They need some guys that can. We need some guys 1772 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 2: that can wors Warbur. That would be a good addition. 1773 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,600 Speaker 1: Man in Middletown. Is you run around with him in 1774 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the off season and he's got enough money, get all 1775 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:25,439 Speaker 1: the money in the world. 1776 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 2: Can't tell you what we're doing. Trade Li for Bryce Harper? 1777 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,040 Speaker 2: Straight up? Let's go what I trade for? About Hunter Green? 1778 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 2: What about Hunter Green? Green? Definitely done? Joe. 1779 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: What's the big decisions in the Supreme Court? The rule 1780 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 1: of against perpect. 1781 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 14: To violate all my right now in the air, not 1782 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,040 Speaker 14: doing it. We can tell me about shelleyities nothing. 1783 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 10: Well, then you could come and fill in for him 1784 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,160 Speaker 10: for a week on the show, and then you can 1785 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 10: say anything you. 1786 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 2: Want next week. Are you suspending going tomorrow for a week? 1787 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 2: Then spend it for a week playing golf and naked. 1788 01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,679 Speaker 2: Couldn't suspend it again? Rock, what's on the big show 1789 01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,040 Speaker 2: today for you? Besides Thiji maybe getting fired? What about that? Yeah? 1790 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,680 Speaker 13: Yeah, Jason and I talked about that yesterday. But let 1791 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,599 Speaker 13: less see today we have our fitness guy, PJ. Street 1792 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,200 Speaker 13: at four o'clock, can help get you fit, get you well. 1793 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson deserves that. A man like me, a man 1794 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 1: wants to smell like a man. Remember it was Remember 1795 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:26,040 Speaker 1: it was very boom and right at the gate. We 1796 01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 1: have his name's escaping. But we have a guy from 1797 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation. I'm going to talk about the big game. 1798 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 1: What about Mike Tomlin saying, how in the world can 1799 01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 1: Cleveland trade its opening day starter to a division rival 1800 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 1: just before we play them? 1801 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 2: How's that possible? 1802 01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,599 Speaker 1: Mike tom mad too. He said they had this guy 1803 01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,600 Speaker 1: named Jake the Snake Browning. He was throwing more interceptions 1804 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,000 Speaker 1: and completed passes. Now we got to deal with Joe 1805 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Flacco again. It was so good that possibly he'll be 1806 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:56,600 Speaker 1: replacing Joe Burrow. He'll be a quarterback controversy. Wouldn't that 1807 01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:57,160 Speaker 1: be something? 1808 01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 13: No competition's good, right, He's twenty one and you know 1809 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 13: Earls thirty next year. 1810 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,360 Speaker 1: They're about the same age by the time you're in 1811 01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,280 Speaker 1: your seventies. She should quit working anyway. 1812 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,640 Speaker 13: You know, the combined age of the quarterbacks playing on 1813 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:11,920 Speaker 13: Thursday night is eighty one. 1814 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,960 Speaker 2: That's kind of old, isn't it. It's pretty old, Joe? 1815 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:15,639 Speaker 2: Is that too old? 1816 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:16,519 Speaker 7: Not? 1817 01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 2: Apparently? 1818 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 5: Not? 1819 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:18,240 Speaker 11: All right? 1820 01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming into this has been great, great insight, 1821 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,200 Speaker 2: Joe into the city, the police, everything. 1822 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 1: We love Hudson. I love your thoughts, Jordan, Hudson. Why 1823 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:33,400 Speaker 1: why didn't you stick around to meet her? 1824 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 14: I didn't know she was showing up. You would have stayed. 1825 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,719 Speaker 14: You go to call, but you knew she was coming. 1826 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,120 Speaker 2: Not you? I think I would have left. Oh, I 1827 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:44,360 Speaker 2: love to love. Would you have stayed? 1828 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:44,559 Speaker 4: Bill? 1829 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 11: Are you kidding? 1830 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Would you have stayed? Are you kidding? 1831 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 13: Heaven and Earth wouldn't have kept him from staying meeting Jordan. 1832 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 2: She is this thing. Would you would have stalked her? 1833 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,560 Speaker 2: She does have a thing for you. 1834 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 13: You know, every year you do your your most often 1835 01:33:59,280 --> 01:33:59,840 Speaker 13: had guests. 1836 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,240 Speaker 2: She is your most often topic. 1837 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 1: If her on someone's got you know, somebody has her number. Yeah, 1838 01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to get her on. That will never happen. 1839 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,479 Speaker 13: Remember Willy you No, No. 1840 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's something there. Here's the deal, Hendrickson. 1841 01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a chance. 1842 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 1: You're saying there's a chance, is what you're saying. Here's dumber, dumber, 1843 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,200 Speaker 1: more like a million say give me out of the 1844 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 1: sutureport Justice Joe and Rocky to wonderful Joe, rock the 1845 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 1: Board of Education. 1846 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:42,160 Speaker 10: Willian Hotter of Justice, Joe making to stay his triumphant 1847 01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:43,240 Speaker 10: return to the airway. 1848 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,559 Speaker 2: Now that's right. Can you walk into the courthouse and 1849 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 2: anyone know who you are? Nobody knows me anymore? You 1850 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:49,720 Speaker 2: walk in. 1851 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,880 Speaker 14: Coming to this guy what his opinion has hit though 1852 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,679 Speaker 14: they know that like lightning bolts in the finger. 1853 01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,240 Speaker 10: Of Zeus, we leave you with immortal words of the 1854 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,799 Speaker 10: Stooge Report. 1855 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,400 Speaker 2: At some point, this foolishness has got to stop. 1856 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,719 Speaker 1: There's our friend, Mike Dewan. Here's Rocky Boyman. He loves, 1857 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 1: he loves, loves the governor. 1858 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:14,559 Speaker 5: Right. 1859 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,240 Speaker 2: Sure, he's a good man, good man. He is a 1860 01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 2: good man, good man. 1861 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:22,679 Speaker 1: Rocky loves him. Say you love him always. Let's continue 1862 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:24,639 Speaker 1: with more, and we never stop. We simply continue. 1863 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,840 Speaker 2: The suspension starts today for one week until in Naples 1864 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 2: and I'm back next Friday. Learn your lesson and shut 1865 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 2: your mouth, Fiji. 1866 01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:35,760 Speaker 1: Do what he tells you to do, and when you 1867 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,800 Speaker 1: do it and it fails, I'm gonna blame you, not me. 1868 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 2: Girls for THEE but not me On seven hundred W 1869 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:41,720 Speaker 2: l W