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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike sixty three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: All Right, good afternoon, Happy Thursday. Welcome into the latest

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Speaker 2: edition of Cincy three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Anytime you're feeling good and hungry at Skyline Time. Happy

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Speaker 2: to have you along as we continue on a week

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Speaker 2: that now Austin sets up tonight for some elimination football games.

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Speaker 2: You get an elimination game tonight in the college football

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Speaker 2: Semifinal with Miami and Old Miss. You get an elimination

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Speaker 2: game tomorrow Oregon in Indiana. You flash forward to Saturday

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Speaker 2: with NFL Action elimination game, Rams Panthers elimination game, Packers Bears,

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Speaker 2: Saturday Night, Sunday Bill's Jags, Niners, Eagles, Chargers, Patriots, Monday Night,

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Speaker 2: Texan Steelers, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Five straight days

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Speaker 2: of elimination football happening nationally. I'm excited. It is a

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Speaker 2: good time of the year on the sports calendar. Be

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Speaker 2: a nice time of the year if some more Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: area teams were playing in these elimination games. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: it's an exciting time in football, an exciting weekend coming

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Speaker 2: up with college basketball as well. The bell Cow you

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Speaker 2: know Austin earlier the week, Kelvin Sampson referred to Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: basketball in years past as the bell Cow. I think

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Speaker 2: we've got a new bell cow locally. I think it's

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Speaker 2: the NKU Norse.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great assessment, Tony, I think that's

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Speaker 3: a really good assessment.

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Speaker 2: The bell Cow of Cincinnati Sports. NKU back in action

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Speaker 2: on the road at Milwaukee tomorrow. Other local action, the

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Speaker 2: undefeated Miami RedHawks traveled to Lee on Friday. Boston College

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Speaker 2: travels to Louisville on Saturday. Mississippi State is at Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: Providence is at Xavier. You see is at UCF on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: What was already a rough start to the year for

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Speaker 2: most local sports teams, the uc Bearcats have lost back

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Speaker 2: to back games to start twenty twenty six. Xavier basketball

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Speaker 2: loses on the road at previously winless in the Big

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Speaker 2: East Marquette. They do so by one point. Last night.

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Speaker 2: Xavier did have a shot to win it. Marquette at

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Speaker 2: most points at half in the double in the second

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Speaker 2: half had a double digit lead. Xavier did cut into that.

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Speaker 2: They end up losing it by one and some rough

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Speaker 2: scenes at Repperina last night as they Missouri Tigers came

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Speaker 2: in rased a pretty pretty substantial deficit in the second

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Speaker 2: half and they beat Mark Pope's Kentucky Wildcats Austin. That

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Speaker 2: was the first time ever that Missouri had gone to

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Speaker 2: Kentucky and won a game. Not great, not great locally

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Speaker 2: on the college basketball scene right now mentioned Ohio State

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Speaker 2: lost earlier in the week to Nebraska, so time to

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Speaker 2: kind of switch it into gear ideally for college basketball.

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Speaker 2: We will spend a little more time on the Xavier loss.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear some Richard Patino after that, and look ahead

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Speaker 2: to Providence coming up at the Centas Center on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: College football playoff Action the Night will spend some more

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Speaker 2: time in today's show talking about tonight's game and tomorrow

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to Old miss and Miami and Oregon

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Speaker 2: in Indiana. By the way, the national title this game

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Speaker 2: this year Austin is being held in Miami, so the

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Speaker 2: Hurricanes have a chance to play a home game for

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Speaker 2: a national title, which would be pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to.

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Speaker 2: The UC women's basketball program, who last night took down

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Speaker 2: eleventh ranked Iowa State. It was the first top twenty

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Speaker 2: five win for the UC women's basketball program Austin since

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: How about that, it's pretty crazy. How about that?

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Speaker 2: That's big time stuff from Katrina Merriweather and the UC

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Speaker 2: women's basketball team. Shout out to them. Michael Lorenzin is

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Speaker 2: gonna get paid eight million dollars by the Reds.

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Speaker 4: Nope? Oh Colorado Rockies.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the Colorado Rockies have paid Michael Lorenzen eight million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Good for him?

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to me? And I've not he was

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Speaker 2: showhy before shown that's right. I hand up. Admittedly have

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Speaker 2: this year, Okay, And then I see last night that

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Speaker 2: Trey Young gets traded to the Washington Wizards, And in

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Speaker 3: No, I cannot. I have no understanding as to why.

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Speaker 3: reason for that is CJ. McCollum. But he's going to Atlanta, yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is eighteen and twenty one on the year. They're

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Speaker 2: ninth in the Eastern Conference. The Washington Wizards just ten

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference standings, just ahead of the Indiana Pacers, who

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Speaker 2: have lost ten in a row. Actually they've lost thirteen

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Speaker 3: Like I was thinking about them the other day because

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Speaker 3: Like just a few months ago, they were in the

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Speaker 3: it's just now kind of a lost year for them.

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Speaker 3: I guess they're trying to get a lottery pick. I

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Speaker 3: But gosh, it's a weird year for the Pacers. Yeats.

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Speaker 3: kind of all right, we're gonna wrap it up. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna wrap it up for the year number one pie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I would feel about that. Some

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Speaker 2: happenings in the National Football League. Todd Bowles is coming

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Speaker 2: back to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Bucks had met

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Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator Josh Grizzard and their quarterback coach Thad Lewis.

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Speaker 3: So you remember Thad Lewis, the former quarterback, Yes, dottyus Lewis.

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel. You have to wonder in this scenario Austin,

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that has tied Harball to the Dolphins yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, some people seem to think that the Dolphins

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Speaker 3: in and other than having no state income tax in

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Speaker 3: the state of Florida, I don't know that that's a

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Speaker 3: great job. You've got cap issues with Tua. Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 3: They traded away their best pass rusher, Jalen Phillips to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: have a lot of talent, and financially, I don't know

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Speaker 3: you're in a division with the Patriots and the Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's like a great job. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if that's somewhere John Harball would want to go.

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Speaker 3: But they'll probably offer John the most money, I would guess.

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Speaker 3: And Steven Ross is their owner, which is another disaster

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Speaker 2: What I want to do here in our number one

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Speaker 2: over the coming weeks. We'll do that here in our

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Speaker 2: number one. As we wrap up our number one and

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Speaker 2: get to our number two. John Sheeran, covering the Bengals

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Speaker 2: from A to Z Sports, will join us. Keegan Nickoson

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Speaker 2: will join us today at two o'clock from Bearcatgeneral dot

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Speaker 2: Com to talk about all the happenings for the UC Bearcats,

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Speaker 2: including Austin. Another portal announcement that was just made earlier today,

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Speaker 2: Manny Covey, oh Offensive Player of the Game in the

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Speaker 2: Liberty Bowl, who not only was the offensive player of

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be the guy. Well, fast forward a week

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Speaker 2: later that the Bearcats have already brought in two running

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Speaker 4: Doesn't look good for him.

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Speaker 2: He is now obviously he had the hit and run,

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Speaker 2: of domestic violence, allegations made by a woman who is

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Speaker 2: it seems like trouble is continuing to follow him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't help but think of when he had the

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Speaker 3: issue previously with the speeding and racing his car and

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Speaker 3: hurting people and all that nonsense, and then the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: wore shirts that said free number four. Yeah, rufflock. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he's just not that good of a guy. Well, obviously,

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Speaker 3: see what happens, and these are just allegations and you

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Speaker 3: gotta whole let that whole thing play out. But just

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Speaker 3: doesn't look good for Rashid Rice. And you know a

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Speaker 3: guy who when he's on the field, incredibly talented and

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Speaker 3: think of the Chief's future.

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Speaker 4: Not great.

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Speaker 3: I apologize because we bury the lead today, which is

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Speaker 3: Chris Stapleton. Chris Stapleton, I'm so excited, Laney Wilson. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they're going to be coming to pay Corps Stadium on

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Speaker 3: August first.

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Speaker 4: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 2: Chris Stapleton just announced earlier today that he's extending his

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Speaker 2: tour and that he is adding a stop at pay

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Speaker 2: Corps Stadium. It's a show that's going to feature special

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Speaker 2: guest Laney Wilson allen Stone.

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Speaker 2: Tickets will go on sale a week from tomorrow at

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Speaker 2: ten am. If you're in Chris Stapleton's fan club, you

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Speaker 2: can go on and get those tickets on Tuesday, January

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Speaker 2: thirteenth at ten am. Are you in the fan club?

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Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna be in there early. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: be doing my best Tennessee whiskey. This is one for me.

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Speaker 4: It's insane. What a world we're living in right now?

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Speaker 2: We'll do that on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 1: Chili Tobyn's press conference tomorrow at one pm. Then way

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Speaker 5: Doctor Ross, He loses it.

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Speaker 4: Take it away by Missina Moore. One man to beat,

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Speaker 3: Right to the rims Xavier lead sixty five sixty four.

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Speaker 2: So with two and it's left last night, Austin Xavier

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Speaker 3: NFL jobs are open Austin. In fact, eight NFL jobs

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Speaker 3: I would say this might sound crazy, but I think

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Speaker 2: it's worth. The Raiders, I've voted them at number seven.

433
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Speaker 2: My number two job. I don't know if it comes

434
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Speaker 2: as a surprise. I have the Giants job as number two. Yeah,

435
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Speaker 2: it's an ownership group that I know they've struggled, but

436
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Speaker 2: it seems like they've committed to trying to win. I

437
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: think Jackson Dart is a promising player. Cam Scottabuo is

438
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Speaker 2: coming back, Malik Neighbors is coming back. I think that

439
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: the Giants is a good job outside of Baltimore. I

440
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Speaker 2: think the Giants is the job that you can win

441
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: the quickest. Okay, However, there is one of the most

442
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Speaker 2: unpopular figures in the NFL. Heading you you're scouting in

443
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Speaker 2: your player personnel department with Joe Shane as the g Yeah,

444
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: and a guy that looks like he's had a pretty

445
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: good draft with Jackson Dart and Camp Scataboo, and you

446
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: mentioned Malik Neighbors like, Okay, there's some some pelts on

447
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: the wall there. And I don't know though, but I

448
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: don't think that's crazy. I would probably have them. Third

449
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Speaker 2: number three for me is the Browns. Miles Garrett elite defense.

450
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Speaker 2: You're going to have the defensive rookie of the year

451
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Speaker 2: and Carson Schweisinger, Quinn Shawn Judkins off the injury, Mason

452
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: Graham had a good year. Harold fannin junior has been awesome.

453
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Speaker 2: The question in Cleveland can you figure out the disaster

454
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Speaker 2: at the quarterback situation? And I know that's a hard

455
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Speaker 2: question to ask if you're looking at a new job,

456
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Speaker 2: but I think the groundwork is being laid in Cleveland.

457
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: I think they have had some good drafts. The defense

458
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: is an elite defense. To me, they're the third best

459
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Speaker 2: job available. Who's your third? Your third as the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I would have Giants, So I had Ravens, Raiders, Giants, Okay,

461
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: who's your fourth? My fourth would probably be the Falcons.

462
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Speaker 4: Okay, that is the same for me.

463
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: Incredible offensive weapons. They they are completely redoing their department,

464
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Speaker 3: which that could be seen as a negative for sure,

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Speaker 3: but I mean just the sheer offensive talent that they have.

466
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Speaker 3: The division that they play in is not very strong

467
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Speaker 3: by any stretch. And so I also think that that

468
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Speaker 3: you know, Arthur Blank is a little bit impatient, but

469
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Speaker 3: really really wants to win, and I think he's willing

470
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Speaker 3: to be aggressive and take some risks where other owners won't.

471
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: James Pierce Junior seems to be a hit in the draft.

472
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: Xavier Watts had a great finish to the year, their

473
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Speaker 2: defensive line Austin the defensive Atlanta Falcons set a team

474
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Speaker 2: franchise record for the most sacks they've ever had in

475
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Speaker 2: a season. Bijon Drake London, they could Ajterrell on the

476
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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. To me, though, it's kind

477
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: of the same situation as Cleveland. What's going on at

478
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Speaker 2: quarterback in Atlanta is Penni's the guy. Yeah, his cousin's

479
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: the guy. You have to answer that question. But for me,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. They are number four on my list.

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Speaker 2: Who's number five? So you have Ravens, Raiders, Giants, Falcons.

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Speaker 3: I'll go to Tennessee Titans. I think they hit on

483
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Speaker 3: their quarterback. Okay, their defense needs some work, but you

484
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: still have an all pro in Jeffrey Simmons over there.

485
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: See what happens with Lagerius Snead. I think you know.

486
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard had sneakily one of the best seasons in

487
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Speaker 3: the NFL. Rushed for over a thousand yards for the Titans.

488
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Speaker 3: They're getting a new stadium, they have streamlined the way

489
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Speaker 3: that their front office works and made some adjustments. Now

490
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Speaker 3: I don't trust their owner, but you have hundreds and

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Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars in cap space, also in

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Speaker 3: a division that I think is winnable. Now, the other

493
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: three teams are good, for sure, but I don't feel

494
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Speaker 3: like the gap is as crazy as it would be

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Speaker 3: if you have the guy at quarterback and you surround

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Speaker 3: him with the right people.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say Tennessee at number five. I have

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Speaker 2: the Titans at number five. As well, because they have

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Speaker 2: something that the teams below them don't, that's the number

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Speaker 2: one overall pick and an opportunity to get their quarterback

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Speaker 2: true of the future. They also have Max Crosby, as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, They've got a heck of a lot of

503
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Speaker 2: money to spend. The Tennessee Titans Austin, to me, they're

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Speaker 2: number They're six to me because of cam Ward, like

505
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: one hundred million or so in cap space cam Ward

506
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: and a division that's not as hard as the other two.

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Speaker 2: They're number six for me. Number seven, I have the

508
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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. And the only reason that I have the

509
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Speaker 2: Dolphins is seven and not eight is because the Cardinals

510
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: are number eight because they play in the hardest division

511
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Speaker 2: in football currently and they still ow Kyler Murray thirty

512
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: six point eight million dollars. That is an absolute disaster

513
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: right now that is happening. So I have the Raider six,

514
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: the Dolphins seven, and the Cardinals eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the Cardinals at number six. You make

516
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: a great point, though, I mean, that is the hardest

517
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Speaker 3: division in the NFL right now. There's nothing really all

518
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: that appealing about the Arizona Cardinals Marvin Harrison Junior. But

519
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: I don't know about Marmon Harrison Junior. Yeah, I mean,

520
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: so I get it. It feels like there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of work to be done there. I would put the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins at seven because I do feel like that's a

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Speaker 3: full rebuild and you know you're you're getting rid of

524
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 3: to a You're gonna be in cap hell because of it.

525
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill is out the door I mentioned earlier, traded

526
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: away their best pass rusher, Stephen Ross is a sketchy

527
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: owner to say the least. And so for all those

528
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Speaker 3: reasons like that's it's going to be a minute and

529
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Speaker 3: you're in a division with New England and Buffalo, I

530
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a minute before you can

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Speaker 3: turn that roster over and be competitive in Miami. So

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Speaker 3: I have them at number seven and I have Cleveland

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Speaker 3: at number eight because what the Watson thing, and because

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00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: of Jimmy Haslam, and I don't really trust Andrew Berry. Now,

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00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: to Barry's credit, I think the reason he kept his

536
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: job is because it looks like they did just hit

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Speaker 3: on this pass draft with those guys that you mentioned.

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Speaker 3: But she said the quarterback question in Cleveland, it hasn't

539
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: been able to be answered for twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: Yep, And I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know that the people in the building right now

542
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: are the ones to answer it. And when they did

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00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: answer it with, in my opinion, Baker Mayfield, they let

544
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Speaker 3: that guy go, so how different I don't trust the Browns.

545
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: How difference does the Raven's job be if Lamar's not there?

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Speaker 3: I still don't think it's crazy. They're a competitive and

547
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: a good team. There's been stability there for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Any of the jobs that could come open this weekend?

549
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Speaker 2: Would would they vault to number one?

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: Eagles? Okay? Buffalo?

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00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Buffalo would be up there. Yeah, I'm curious if Buffalo

552
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Speaker 3: were to lose and McDermott were to go. Oh, would

553
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean get fired as well? The GM of the Bills. Yeah,

554
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Speaker 3: I don't think so. But I'm curious because they've it

555
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like they've done a good enough job from

556
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen that defense and surrounding Josh over the last

557
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Speaker 3: couple of years.

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Speaker 2: The Keon Coleman picks set them back a ton. They

559
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: needed a number one wide receiver, yeah, and they missed

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Speaker 2: on it. We'll take a break. We won't miss your

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Speaker 2: phone calls. That'll happen next, five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, plenty more to go on the Home of

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Speaker 2: the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: Nope, can we just do this all the way up

565
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Speaker 7: to August?

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Speaker 3: First, we might just a lot of Chris Dapleton, a

567
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Speaker 3: lot of Lady Wilson.

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Speaker 4: That'd be good with that. Yeah, welcome back. It is

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Speaker 4: since he three to sixty.

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Speaker 2: You're listening on the whole of the Bengals ESPN fifty

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Speaker 2: It's Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, it

573
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Speaker 2: is Skyline time.

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Speaker 4: I went.

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00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: Two nights ago Austin. I asked Wilder what he wanted

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Speaker 2: for dinner, and anytime I asked Wilder, it's one of

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Speaker 2: three things. One of those three things is always Skyline.

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Speaker 4: Smart kid. I took him up there, and.

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Speaker 2: Wesley likes to tag along. She likes Skyline as well,

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Speaker 2: and so I got there and their big thing now

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Speaker 2: is ordering their own meal.

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Speaker 4: They want to order.

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Speaker 2: So Wesley, like clockwork, I want a cheese cony crackers

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Speaker 2: and a lemonade.

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Speaker 4: Gets the cheese cony crackers. Lemonade.

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Speaker 2: The lady looks at Wilder and she says, what do

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Speaker 2: you want? He said, I think I'm going to change

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Speaker 2: it up. I'll take some chili cheese fries. This kid

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Speaker 2: proceeds to eat the whole order of chili cheese fries.

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Speaker 2: And if you've been to Skyline before, it's not a

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Speaker 2: kid's order.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: So when he ordered it, I'm like, oh sweet, I'll

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Speaker 2: just pick off these things. I took like two bites

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Speaker 2: and he got mad at me. Sure said order your own. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he said, I'm gonna change it up. I want the

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Speaker 2: chili cheese fries.

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Speaker 3: He's uh, he's sharp as a tag.

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Speaker 4: He's a grown boy man.

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Speaker 3: He's out there making buckets. If you follow Tony and

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Speaker 3: Meredith on on social media, he's out there draining baskets.

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Speaker 2: He's making buckets and he is constantly coming up with

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Speaker 2: what he wants to do after his next basket. He

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Speaker 2: just recently he's a wrestling fan. Oh, he just recently

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Speaker 2: learned that CM Punk's his His finisher is to go

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Speaker 2: to sleep. And so like CM punk does the thing

607
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: like Steph Curry does. And I showed him some Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry highlights and he's like, Steph Curry does that too?

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Speaker 2: Show him the one over France, and so I think

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Speaker 2: I think he's got his his next celebration down. I

611
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Speaker 2: think he's going to sleep.

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Speaker 3: Has he done the silencer yet?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: He did last one of the ones. What's that thing

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Speaker 2: where like someone's holding their nose and they're wiggling their arm. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where he got that, but he did

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Speaker 2: that one week.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: That actually originated with cam Ward at Miami. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 3: there's like the the meaning of that is debated.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but doesn't think that was as harmless as six seven? No,

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Speaker 4: it's not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it is something to do with zombies. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's that bad, but you can it

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Speaker 3: can be. Yeah, let him keep doing it, but he

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Speaker 3: don't need that. You'll switch it up. You go to sleep.

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Speaker 3: But the silencer has got to be next though. Just

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Speaker 3: the hand over the no, no, no, no, it's when you

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Speaker 3: you like on your chest and then you like push

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Speaker 3: your your knee comes up and you push your arms.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I thought you were just like the Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, I'll turn them onto that too. That's what

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Speaker 2: I'm living for.

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Speaker 3: If you're the Saturday, you gotta do it quick because

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Speaker 3: you got to get back on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting back the transition. Defense is big at this age.

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Speaker 3: I have say there's no chance he plays defense if

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Speaker 3: he's your son, no chance. We're trying to fast break.

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Speaker 3: I have a fun story. Please did you see that

641
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 3: Tom Moore has decided to retire from the Bay Buccaneers.

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00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: He has been in the National Football League for more

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Speaker 3: than forty six seasons.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's eighty seven years old. He's super Bowl for sixty

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Speaker 3: two years in the National Football League. He of course

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Speaker 3: famously had the quote about Peyton Manning. He was Peyton

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Speaker 3: Manning's quarterbacks coach an offensive coordinator for a long time

649
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Speaker 3: in Indianapolis, and somebody questioned him one time about how

650
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: come the backup quarterbacks don't get any reps in practice?

651
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: And he said, fellas, if eighteen goes down, we're bleeped

652
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Speaker 3: and we don't practice bleeped.

653
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: That's a good way to put it.

654
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: NFL Films did a great feature on him recently and

655
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: his note cards in the way that like his entire process,

656
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 3: he is one of the most fascinating people in the

657
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: history of football, and after sixty two years of coaching

658
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: more than forty six of those in the NFL, Tom

659
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 3: Moore is retiring at the age of eighty seven.

660
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: Tom Moore's resume Terry Bradshaw, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Like, are.

661
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: You kidding me?

662
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. I've been around some of the greats

663
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: He Uh.

665
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: He made the transition in the NFL in nineteen seventy

666
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: seven when he joined Chuck Knowle's staff at the Steelers.

667
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

668
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: He's coached with Tony Dungee. Uh, so many others, but

669
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Speaker 3: just the resume and who he's worked with at the

670
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Speaker 3: quarterback position is incredible. Shout out to Tom Moore, Man,

671
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 3: what an unbelievable career. We'll take a phone call before

672
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 3: we get to our last break of the hour. What's

673
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: going on, Mike?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Thanks guys, I appreciate you. Tom Moore. Where I wonder

676
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 9: he played on the air? He played NFL football, right.

677
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he played He played quarterback at Yes,

678
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: he played at Iowa.

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00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 9: I want to say he played for the Colts. When

681
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 9: Don Shula won the one championship with the Baltimore Colts,

682
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 9: back in the way, back in the day, but it

683
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 9: could be well, okay, they did have a guy named

684
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 9: Lennymore anyway, a good story.

685
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Speaker 5: I liked that.

686
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Speaker 9: I'm glad the Raiders had showed some action. Jackson and said,

687
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 9: Pete hit the road, and I love Pete Carroll, but

688
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 9: I like the team that, you know, let's get involved

689
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 9: and let's change things up and do what we gotta do.

690
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 9: I thought that was a really bold move and I

691
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 9: liked it. And Pete may be over the hill alot,

692
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 9: but I don't know, he said, doesn't seem like you

693
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 9: it physically.

694
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: I will always appreciate a team essentially saying, hey, I

695
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: feel like we got this wrong and we're going to

696
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: rectify it, because if not, then you just kind of

697
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: stick to your guns and say, now we're going to

698
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: run it back another year. With Pete Carroll. We got

699
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: the number one pick. I feel like the Raiders said, hey,

700
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: we got it wrong, we messed up. We're going to

701
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: open up this job. It can be more attractive because

702
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: we do have the number one overall pick coming in.

703
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: Maybe we can lure a coach in with that. You're

704
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: playing in Vegas. I appreciate and I applaud the franchise

705
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: for doing that.

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00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 9: I do too. And one thing I'll say about those Raiders,

707
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 9: and I love so much stuff from starting back in

708
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 9: the sixties, they've always kept them same uniforms, and I

709
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 9: just they're my favorite NFL uniforms ever ever. And they're

710
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 9: really not flassy. They're simple, but man, they are classy

711
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 9: as can be. You guys like the Raiders' uniform.

712
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, yeah, all time classics.

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Speaker 9: Oh man, great if these coaching jobs are kind of

714
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 9: interesting coming up, I enjoyed listening to you guys kind

715
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 9: of analyze that a little bit because I've been keeping

716
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Speaker 9: up with it a little. But I don't know. There's

717
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 9: so many jobs a bill. It's kind of it's kind

718
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 9: of over yah.

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00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about twenty five percent of the

720
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: league as has jobs that are open now in the NFL.

721
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 9: I didn't think about that. Twenty five percent. That's a lot.

723
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Speaker 9: So the big question is who do you And you've

724
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 9: already talked, but I couldn't hear the beginning of his

725
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 9: show for a hit, who do you like tonight? Miamiear

726
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 9: old miss.

727
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 4: I've gone back and forth.

728
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: I think Trinidad Chambliss and his ability to get the

729
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: ball out quick can negate a little bit of how

730
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: dominant Miami is up front. And I like Carson Beck.

731
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: I think he's solid, but I think Chamberliss gives them

732
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: the the ability and the upside on the offensive side

733
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: of the ball. And I think there's just something about

734
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: the chip on the shoulder that Old Miss is playing

735
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: with when their coach left that everyone kind of left

736
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 2: him for dead. I think it's a good matchup because

737
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: of how they get rid of the ball quick that

738
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Speaker 2: can negate Miami's pass rush. I'm gonna I think I'm

739
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna take Old Miss.

740
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: My gut is telling me that Miami is going to

741
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: win the game, but I really want Old Miss to

742
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: win it.

743
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're America's team right now. You can't help the

744
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 9: root for him after they got jacked Brown by knucklehead,

745
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 9: greedy bastard. Oh he's a trip planye kid. I don't

746
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 9: even know what to say about him.

747
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 4: I really don't.

748
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 9: I can't flee that this guy out, but I know

749
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 9: I want to. He's all that laying different.

750
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, uh but uh, this this this bet guy now,

751
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 10: they said he's really just getting back into true form

752
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 10: after that big surgery hit.

753
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 9: So is that possible?

754
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 5: You guys?

755
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 9: You buy that?

756
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

757
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: And I do think Miami it helps them because they

758
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: have it. They have the better running game in this game,

759
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: and I think that always helps the quarterback out. Like

760
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: many games, though, I think this has decided in the trenches.

761
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: I just think that a quarterback Ole Miss and the

762
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: style of offense they play can do more than to

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00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: negate Miami's front four than Ohio State or Texas A

764
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: and m could do.

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00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm torn on who to root for here really.

766
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 9: I mean, everybody likes Ole Miss. They're they're the underdogs,

767
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 9: so to speak, but Miami hasn't won anything for a

768
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 9: long time either. You guys like Mario crystal.

769
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: Ball, I do. I think he's solid, he's all right.

770
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Speaker 9: As here's what Austin would say. I wouldn't want to

771
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 9: cross the state to see that.

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00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: Chal that's good. I got no beef with Mario. He's fine.

773
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: I don't really have an opinion on him.

774
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Speaker 9: You got a beef with everybody off and come on,

775
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 9: come good with Mario. I'm just yeah, you haven't asked

776
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 9: you probably probably you'll tell Tony. I wouldn't walk across

777
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 9: the street to talk to that.

778
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 11: Damn Mike.

779
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: I talked to him.

780
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 9: I talked to him every day as it is. That's enough,

781
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 9: all right, guys.

782
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: Would you walk across the street to see Mario?

783
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: No, but there's got a long list of people I

784
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: would walk across. Who would you walk across the street

785
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: right now to see? Other than Chris Dapleton. Damn it,

786
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: you took me. I was gonna say him. I'd see

787
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: what Joe Burrows up to. So what's up, Joe. Let's

788
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: see him and Jamar ask him about Arc Raiders. Man,

789
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Apparently that's a thing. Yeah, we'll talk. Let's mention that

790
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: when we get back, we'll finish up Pour one. There's

791
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Speaker 3: also some news transfer portal slash Agent news fantastic that

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Speaker 3: just dropped.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that next and then we'll talked to John

794
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: Sharon on the other side of the break. ESPN fifteen

795
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back since he three to sixty.

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00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station thanks to Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 4: Austin.

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Speaker 3: Last night, on a live stream, Jamar Chase was playing

800
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Speaker 3: Arc Raiders. Yeah, now I'm new to the video game scene.

801
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: I actually did a couple of jumps last night in Fortnite.

802
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: I forgot you got a PlayStation. I had a third

803
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: place finish where I had zero kills. That's what I do.

804
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: I survive. You gotta get better.

805
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: I survive, no built, nothing like that. I just jump

806
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: and survive. But last night, on Arc Raiders, which I'm

807
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 2: not familiar with, apparently Jamar Chase was down and needed

808
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: someone to revive him. Oh and made the proclamation that

809
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: if someone could revive them, he'll give them season tickets

810
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: next year to the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I need to start playing Arc Raiders.

812
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: That sounds to me like some serious desperation, and that's

813
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: not a cheap no revival they wanted to win.

814
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about Arc Raiders, but I know

816
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: that I saw a couple of clips from Jamar playing

817
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: and uh, I guess him and Burrow have played it

818
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: a little bit together as well. It's one of those

819
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: games I've seen some clips. I don't know that much

820
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: about it. If we have one of our our listeners

821
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: who plays that has any idea what it is and

822
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: can explain it to us in a.

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00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 4: Listen to this a smart way.

824
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: It's a multiplayer extraction adventure set in lethal future Earth,

825
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: ravaged by a mysterious mechanized threat known as arc Enlist

826
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: as a raider and scavenge the surface to thrive in

827
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: a desolate world. But beware of the machines, beware of

828
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: raiders praying on others. Arc Raiders interesting, and I know

829
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: there are other people there. And I was told that.

830
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: Each lobby and map and things like that are different

831
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: than the type of people that you get into. Some

832
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: people will try to kill you, some people you work together. Now,

833
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: if people are listening, you can correct me, because I

834
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: legit don't know anything about this game, but I think

835
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 3: it's similar to Destiny. Did you ever play Destiny? Nope,

836
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: And you could go on these long raids and Destiny

837
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: like that. Destiny is one of the greatest games ever made.

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Speaker 4: I'm new into this.

839
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: A little bit of drama taking place in a college

840
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: football transfer portal.

841
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: Stop me.

842
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: If you've heard that one before, you know that quarterback

843
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: from Washington, Demond Williams jeer Well, his agent, has released

844
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: a statement today. Doug Hendrickson, the president of Washerman Football.

845
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: Washerman has a lot of guys in the NFL guys

846
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: like Alec Pierce, the former Bearcat, Eric Armstead of the

847
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars, Carson Swestinger at the NFL going to be

848
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. They've got some really good players.

849
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: Doug Hendrickson made a statement today said I have made

850
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 3: the decision to end my representation of Demand Williams Junior

851
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: effective immediately, wow, due to philosophical differences. He says, Demand

852
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: is an incredible talent. We wish him and his family

853
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: the best in their future endeavors.

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00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: Dang.

855
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: So, of course, in case you missed it, Demand Williams

856
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: signed a deal with Washington to be their quarterback and

857
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: then hopped in the portal. Seemed like he was going

858
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: to try to go to LSU. Perhaps, Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah,

859
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 3: so maybe that's one way to get this all figured

860
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: out if the agents are like nah.

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Speaker 2: I also saw some other portal news relates to the

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Speaker 2: Big twelve. Okay, remember the hype preseason last year around

863
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: DJ Lagway at Florida. I do just did not pan out.

864
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: DJ Lagway has committed to the Baylor Bears.

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Speaker 3: Oh so would you take him at you?

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Speaker 4: See? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would so. DJ Legway is a Baylor Bear.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk more about the Cincinnati Bengals. Let's do so

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Speaker 3: with our guest, who we've had on each and every

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Speaker 3: Thursday during the football season, covering the Bengals from Ada's

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Speaker 3: E Sports. Our good friend John Shearon joining us right now. Hi, John,

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Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 10: Thanks?

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Speaker 5: We off season?

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Speaker 14: Thank god we're here. My favorite time in the year.

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Speaker 2: John, how would you summarize the start to twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 2: You see loses in the Liberty Bowl, they fall to

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Speaker 2: Houston and then they fall to West Virginia. The Bengals

894
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: lose to the Cleveland Browns. What why would you summarize

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Speaker 2: the start of twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 14: There was this old I believe it was in the

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Speaker 14: Inquirer long time ago. There was this old like cartoon

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Speaker 14: about like Mike Brown, like New Year's same stuff, whatever

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Speaker 14: the caption was, where it's like nothing really changes, right,

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Speaker 14: So it's just, you know, it's part for the course.

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Speaker 14: You know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard time right now. But the Bengals go

904
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Speaker 2: into their most pivotal offseason. As James Rapeene said earlier

905
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Speaker 2: in the week, it feels like every off season now

906
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Speaker 2: is the most important, especially with the Joe Burrow window

907
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Speaker 2: and where things are at. They made an early move

908
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Speaker 2: in the off season by doubling down on not only

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, but Duke Tobin. Zach Taylor then on one

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Speaker 2: to double down essentially on the staff and does not

911
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Speaker 2: foresee any staff changes. Your overall thoughts as it relates

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Speaker 2: to the decision and the timing of that decision to

913
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Speaker 2: bring back Zach, Duke and as much of the staff

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Speaker 2: as possible.

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Speaker 14: I think in past years, I think a lot of

916
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Speaker 14: fans equate to no changes, being like, oh, they did

917
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Speaker 14: too much at the end of the season to save

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Speaker 14: their jobs, and I really didn't feel like that was

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Speaker 14: the case. Ever since Paul's engineer's report that stated that

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Speaker 14: Zach Taylor had not one but two left in this contract,

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Speaker 14: it was basically assumed that they weren't even remotely interested

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Speaker 14: in moving on from Zach after this year. I think

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Speaker 14: obviously the Burrow injury is a baked at excuse With

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Speaker 14: that as well, I think there were some at least

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Speaker 14: conversations about, like, you know, is Duke Tobin particularly as

926
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Speaker 14: safe as it used to be. Will they faced more

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Speaker 14: accountability And it seems like that's going to be the

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Speaker 14: case later this week. But in terms of both of

929
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Speaker 14: them coming back, that wasn't obviously very surprising, regardless of

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Speaker 14: what their final record was. I think as soon as

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Speaker 14: we learned that, yeah, like they're not going to pay

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Speaker 14: head coach two years for not coaching their team, like

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Speaker 14: the yeah, it's pretty said in Stone so in terms

934
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Speaker 14: of continuity and all that like, it's not it's not

935
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Speaker 14: shocking considering who the team is, but it does obviously

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Speaker 14: make twenty twenty six a lot more important for him

937
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Speaker 14: considering that he does only have two years luck in

938
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Speaker 14: this contract and going four consecutive years. I'm making the

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Speaker 14: playoffs of Joe Burry as a quarterback is already it's

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Speaker 14: already excuse me when it's three, but it would be

941
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Speaker 14: even more an excuse what for? And there's only so

942
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Speaker 14: much that you can take there.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Duke Tobin decision, we also find out

944
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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin is set to speak to the media at

945
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Speaker 2: one o'clock tomorrow and John underscore Sharon on x I

946
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Speaker 2: know you live streamed yesterday and went into a little

947
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Speaker 2: bit of what you would ask Duke Tobin on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Share a little bit of that, because that, to me

949
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Speaker 2: is now the most fascinating thing. Duke Tobin, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: normally speak at this time of the year, has been

951
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Speaker 2: I think under more of the microscope as the season

952
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Speaker 2: has gone on. When you look at this roster and

953
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Speaker 2: just where it is, what are some things you hope

954
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Speaker 2: or you would want to be asking Duke Tobin tomorrow.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the three things that I thought of were Number one,

956
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Speaker 14: why does coach can turnover get in the way of

957
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Speaker 14: proper roster turnover in a free agency, because that was

958
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Speaker 14: a definite problem not only when Zach was hired back

959
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Speaker 14: in twenty nineteen, but then last year when they hired

960
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Speaker 14: Al Golden and they got the staff together late. The

961
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Speaker 14: Bears and Jaguars hired completely new coaching staff last off season.

962
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Speaker 5: It hit the ground running.

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Speaker 14: In Marching when you know they're both the number three

964
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Speaker 14: seeds and the respective side of the playoff bracket. The

965
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Speaker 14: fact that that's an excuse at all, that exactually what

966
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Speaker 14: alluded to is ludicrous to me. So talking to someone

967
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Speaker 14: who has, you know, proclaimed to be that the fact

968
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Speaker 14: of GM, I think he should probably answer for that.

969
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Speaker 14: Number Two, I want to know about how he can

970
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Speaker 14: improve the clear disjointedness in the war room on draft day,

971
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Speaker 14: and about how to properly funnel the opinions and the

972
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Speaker 14: information from the coaching staff and the very limited and

973
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Speaker 14: small that you know, Duke's mind, the personal department is

974
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Speaker 14: as big as he wants it to be, so there's

975
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Speaker 14: not a ton of information going from that side. But

976
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Speaker 14: how can you funnel information from both sides of your operation,

977
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Speaker 14: and how can you make a clear and concise decision

978
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Speaker 14: rounding around out where you're not reaching and you're not

979
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Speaker 14: trying to appease a coaching staff that has obviously a

980
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Speaker 14: lot of influence on the draft. How can you make

981
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Speaker 14: that process better if you're not going to change At

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Speaker 14: number three, I would like I would like him to

983
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Speaker 14: at least face the question of does he feel like

984
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Speaker 14: he's limited by not being able to offer guaranteed money

985
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Speaker 14: to free agents? If that is indeed a blackbird problem,

986
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Speaker 14: if he also shares that philosophy as someone who again

987
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Speaker 14: is in this position of building a team, does he

988
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Speaker 14: feel like he's limited with that? What do he do

989
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Speaker 14: things differently if he was actually given the title of

990
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Speaker 14: general manager? He would obviously never answer that. He's very

991
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Speaker 14: dismissive with some of these questions, and he likes to

992
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Speaker 14: control a conversation. But I would like someone to at

993
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Speaker 14: least ask him that to see what he would do

994
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Speaker 14: in a response to it.

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Speaker 3: That being said, what do you expect to hear from

996
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Speaker 3: him yesterday or tomorrow? And is there anything that you

997
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Speaker 3: feel like he can say that will appease Bengals fans.

998
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Speaker 9: I don't know if.

999
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Speaker 14: There's anything that he can say that it's going to

1000
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Speaker 14: be any different than any of the other press conference

1001
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Speaker 14: that he's done. Again, like he's he ainying on what

1002
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Speaker 14: who his audience is like at the combine is very

1003
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Speaker 14: more is much more open because it's a more general

1004
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 14: national audience. And last year he saw him kind of

1005
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Speaker 14: make these I don't know if you want to call

1006
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Speaker 14: him please, but like it was almost like he was

1007
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Speaker 14: speaking to the front office about how he wanted, you know,

1008
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Speaker 14: this team to be different and not to pay more

1009
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Speaker 14: for the same team and ended up being the exact

1010
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 14: same team last year. Right, So I think when you

1011
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 14: when you're talking to Bengals media, like he trusts you know,

1012
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 14: the reporters a lot more because he knows where that

1013
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 14: information is going to and what it's going to be

1014
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Speaker 14: said about in the in the publication. So I think

1015
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Speaker 14: he'll get some genuine answers out of Tobin. But just

1016
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Speaker 14: knowing who he is talking to him in the past,

1017
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Speaker 14: like again, he's someone that doesn't like to throw anyone

1018
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Speaker 14: on the bus.

1019
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Speaker 5: I think the.

1020
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Speaker 14: Bengals appreciate how very tight lick that he is. He

1021
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 14: doesn't give away a lot of information in general, but

1022
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Speaker 14: it's good that he in that position as again, like

1023
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 14: not the GM, but as close to a GM as

1024
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Speaker 14: you're gonna get Cincinnati. This is what gms do at

1025
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 14: the end of the season, especially when you miss the playoffs,

1026
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 14: stand up for what you did with the roster, takes

1027
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Speaker 14: some accountability for what went wrong, and talk about how

1028
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 14: you can prove to be better. Because now you're talking

1029
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 14: about it right at the end of the season instead

1030
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 14: of right before the combine when people have already moved

1031
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 14: on to the draft and everything like that, it's tough

1032
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 14: to really reflect on pastism. So just hearing him talk

1033
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Speaker 14: about these things fresh in the moment, I think will

1034
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 14: be refreshing for Bengals fans and I ain't fascinated to

1035
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 14: see what he says.

1036
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Speaker 3: As far as Zach Taylor is concerned, we know that

1037
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has defended him publicly and privately. How much

1038
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 3: value do you place on Burrow's endorsement of Zach Taylor.

1039
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Speaker 14: There is value to it, and I think because he

1040
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 14: is the offensive play caller and he does give Burrow

1041
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 14: complete autonomy over the offense and has completely structured the

1042
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Speaker 14: offense around him. It's natural why Burrow would be in

1043
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Speaker 14: Zach's corner. I don't think that they have a bad

1044
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 14: relationship at all. Obviously, when the quarterback and head coach

1045
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 14: have a bad relationship, then that's how you get a

1046
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 14: situation like what potentially happened in Baltimore when John Harborough

1047
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 14: was fired, right, So that definitely does play into Zach Stager.

1048
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Speaker 14: And obviously Burrow has more influence than any other employee

1049
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 14: in Pakeford Stadium. But also it's not Burrow's decision to make.

1050
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 14: That's why or not they keep the head coach has

1051
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 14: to be down to ownership and they have to accept

1052
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 14: the fact that what Zach Carroll has done as the

1053
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 14: head coach and the totality of his seven years now

1054
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Speaker 14: is enough to keep him employed. And I don't think

1055
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 14: there's enough evidence really need to support that. I think

1056
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Speaker 14: if you get a decent head coach in there with

1057
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 14: a decent offensive philosophy, he's going to be able to

1058
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 14: do the same things that Zach Hitler has done With

1059
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 14: Joe Burrow. It's just the fact that Zach and Burrow

1060
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 14: have been together for now six years, and obviously Burrow

1061
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Speaker 14: has a good relationship with him, So there's value to it,

1062
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 14: but it's not enough value to override a decision that

1063
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Speaker 14: ownership should probably make.

1064
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Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people bring up at times

1065
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: the size of the scouting department for the Cincinnati Bengals,

1066
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Speaker 2: and I know you you mentioned the correlation of what

1067
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: happens in the war room and the scheme versus the personnel.

1068
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Speaker 2: I think the Bengals have drafted more for development instead

1069
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Speaker 2: of guys that can come in and play right now.

1070
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Speaker 2: But when you look at the Shamar Stewart situation and

1071
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: he's asked after the draft about the Bengals and he

1072
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Speaker 2: doesn't even remember meeting with the Bengals leading up to

1073
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Speaker 2: the draft. I remember Jermaine Burton and the Bengals pounding

1074
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Speaker 2: the table, and then one of the most respected coaches ever,

1075
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Speaker 2: Nick saban To say, I don't know, based on the

1076
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 2: off the field issues, would more bodies in the scouting

1077
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 2: department potentially help clear that up in the future for

1078
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: missus that this team has had.

1079
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Speaker 14: I don't know if more information, Like in my opinion,

1080
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Speaker 14: it comes down to the right information, right, it's it's

1081
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Speaker 14: what you're looking at. Does it actually correlate to success,

1082
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 14: and I don't think that always entails with having more

1083
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 14: voices in the room.

1084
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 5: I understand the general.

1085
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 14: Philosophy of like having like a small circle because like

1086
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 14: you trust you know where the information is coming from.

1087
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 14: But the information that they're getting or excuse me, what

1088
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 14: they're valuing definitely has to change. Because Jamar Stewart again,

1089
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 14: like he wasn't very productive in college, and it's not

1090
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 14: surprised and that so far he hasn't been very productive

1091
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 14: in the games he's played in the NFL, and most

1092
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 14: of their misses have comes come down to asking guys,

1093
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 14: Like you said, you're trying to trying to fill holes

1094
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 14: of players of doing things that they weren't necessarily asked

1095
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 14: doing college, or has to do it at a certain rate,

1096
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 14: or just proven that they weren't capable of doing at

1097
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 14: the lower level. Right, So it's changing that overall philosophy

1098
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 14: that I think can go a long way beyond just

1099
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 14: adding five more scouts. I think adding more scouts gets

1100
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 14: you more likely to finding the correct answers and finding

1101
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 14: the right information. But I think the main goal is

1102
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 14: to find that right information, and they need a complete

1103
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 14: philosophical ship about how they look at defensive prospects, specifically

1104
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 14: along the defensive line.

1105
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor will be back as the head coach, Dan

1106
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: Pitcher the offensive coordinator, although the guy that doesn't call

1107
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: place for the Bengals is getting an interview with the

1108
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. I think that says a lot about how

1109
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher is viewed. And I know it doesn't change

1110
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: the fact of Zach Taylor coming back, But if Dan

1111
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: Pitcher is getting these opportunities, do you think there's a

1112
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: conversation that happens at all in the offseason about potentially

1113
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: allowing Dan Pitcher instead of Zach Taylor to call.

1114
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 14: Play I mean that that would be the leverage piece

1115
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 14: that the Bengals can use here. It wasn't obviously used

1116
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 14: when they brought When they promoted Pitcher to be off

1117
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 14: coordinator in twenty twenty four, remember like he got looks

1118
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 14: I believe from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the New

1119
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 14: Orleans Saints in the twenty twenty four offseason to be

1120
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 14: their offensive coordinator, and many thought that Hey, like, in

1121
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 14: order to keep picture because Brian Callahan was leaving, you

1122
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 14: may have to give him play calling duties that obviously

1123
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 14: didn't happen. He chose to stay with the Bengals because obviously,

1124
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 14: who would want to leave Joe Burrow right and right now?

1125
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 14: His only other option to be a head coach is

1126
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 14: to I don't know, coach Sugar Sanders. It's not exactly

1127
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 14: a tantalized not just maybe the Bengals don't feel that

1128
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 14: pressured or that threatened to give Picture those those duties.

1129
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 14: But if it does come down to it, if they

1130
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 14: do feel like Picture is that valuable, maybe that conversation

1131
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 14: does pop up, because again, you know you're if you're

1132
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 14: Zach Taylor, you're probably thinking that you're running out of

1133
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 14: time and you want to make sure that you have

1134
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 14: the best possible staff around you to do this thing

1135
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 14: and to extend your tenure here. So if he if

1136
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 14: he feels like Picture is too valuable to lose, that

1137
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 14: would be the bargainingship that he can give him. But

1138
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 14: I think Picture's gonna need maybe a couple more actual

1139
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 14: opportunities to be a head coach in other interviews, maybe

1140
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 14: before they even start considering that.

1141
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: Timing and urgency I think are something that the Bengals

1142
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: need to operate with this offseas and last year it

1143
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: felt like too much of well, we got to wait

1144
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: to get Jamar and t and Trey done before we

1145
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: can address the rest of the roster. Dalton Reisner wants

1146
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: to be a Cincinnati Bengal. That seems like a layup.

1147
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: There are also contracts that you could start to look

1148
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: to a Dj Turner, Chase Brown, players that even at

1149
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: Dax Hill, that maybe you could address their contracts earlier,

1150
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: get that out of the way and move on. Do

1151
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: you foresee any of those things happening if you are

1152
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals.

1153
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 14: I think a lot of those may happen after the

1154
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 14: bulk of the offseason. Like typically a lot of these

1155
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 14: extensions happened in the summer around training camp or maybe

1156
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 14: at the end of training camp. And you know, like

1157
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 14: what happened with Jamar and t last year were kindly

1158
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 14: anomaly because they wanted to get those financials out there

1159
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 14: so they could, you know, utilize for adiency. But unfortunately

1160
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 14: it didn't happen because it took too long and then

1161
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 14: they just missed down for free agency entirely. So a

1162
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 14: guy like DJ Turner or a guy like Dax Hill,

1163
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 14: those are extensions that you typically find in July, like

1164
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 14: Chase Brown could be another guy that Jim Mixon was

1165
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 14: extended right before the twenty twenty seeds. I could see

1166
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 14: that timeline matched up as well. I'm sure they're going

1167
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 14: to have those internal talks because those guys are still

1168
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 14: under contract for twenty twenty six. So I would imagine

1169
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 14: that the first moves, as you'll see, you could see

1170
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 14: a Don Reisner extension or resigning around the same time

1171
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 14: as like Mike a Seki resigned right before free agency.

1172
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 14: I think he'll get an offer around that time, and

1173
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 14: he'll just decide if it's the best when or if

1174
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 14: he wants to test the open market. Then they're going

1175
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 14: to fill out other needs and for agency hopefully, and

1176
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 14: then then I think they kind of look inwards in

1177
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 14: terms of maybe DJ Turner, dack Hill, and again I

1178
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 14: don't really know how much those guys are going to

1179
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 14: command in terms of guaranteed money, so maybe that puts

1180
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 14: a delay in the negotiations. But for in typical Bengals timeline,

1181
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 14: you would see those probably around July and August.

1182
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: You talked about how the excuse of things getting going

1183
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: a little bit later than normal has already been used

1184
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: by Zach Taylor. I think the other buzzword that's out

1185
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: there has been continuity with the coaching staff. What do

1186
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: you make of the idea of guys will get better

1187
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: just because it's another year in this system. It's more familiarity,

1188
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: that whole kind of idea of the continuity and the

1189
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: value that it brings.

1190
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 14: I think with Al Golden specifically in the defense, I

1191
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 14: think the difference between this year and last year was

1192
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 14: you saw an uptick in the defense because new guys

1193
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 14: were playing for the first time, and those same guys

1194
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 14: like Jordan Battle, you know, like a Joseph Asai, you know,

1195
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 14: players of that nature. I think when they were retained

1196
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 14: and obviously given larger roles this year in a new scheme,

1197
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 14: and then it obviously took a long time to really

1198
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 14: bear any fruit. I think the fact that those same

1199
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 14: players improved as the season went on, it does lends

1200
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 14: to the fact that you could see how things could

1201
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 14: continue to progress with another year under the scheme and system.

1202
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 14: I don't think there's there shouldn't be a ton of

1203
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 14: confidence in the defensive scheme going forward and the coaching

1204
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 14: on out the side of the ball in general, because

1205
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 14: of how bad they were this year. But I do

1206
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 14: get the argument that, hey, it's the same players that

1207
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 14: took a jump previously and then they just needed some

1208
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 14: time under this new scheme. And now if you need,

1209
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 14: if you're going to find out this scheme is actually

1210
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 14: worth anything, you got to give him just one more

1211
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 14: year just to see if it actually does bear any

1212
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 14: free and if it doesn't, then you know that this

1213
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 14: is just a waste of.

1214
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: Time and you need to move on.

1215
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 14: So I understand that, I understand the coaching continuity aspect

1216
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 14: of it. And obviously if they weren'ting to fire Zach Taylor,

1217
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 14: then they probably wen'ting to fire the defense coordinator. That

1218
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 14: they're not put opinions on coaching. They're clearly pinning this

1219
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 14: on a lack.

1220
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: Of talent on the roster.

1221
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: Surely we're not going to be going back in on

1222
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: the genostone experiment, right, We're done.

1223
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 14: With that, Bingerscross.

1224
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: What about a guy like Joseph Oosai, who I think

1225
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: is hard to navigate because he's at a position of

1226
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: value in the NFL. But I don't know if you

1227
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: can evaluate enough based on the amount of games he

1228
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: was able to play. What are your initial thoughts on

1229
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 2: Josephosai and are you are you moving on from Trey

1230
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: Hendrickson as well?

1231
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 14: I think Trey, I think uh Paul Daner put it

1232
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 14: perfectly that Bradge has basically been burned. I think the

1233
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 14: only way that he comes back is on the tag,

1234
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 14: and then I just stn't know how either side wants

1235
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 14: to play out what happened this past year, even if

1236
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 14: it wasn't technically the franchise tag. But that whole situation

1237
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 14: just seems like something that neither side wants to go

1238
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 14: through again. I think I think with a side, there's

1239
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 14: interest to bring him back, but I just don't think

1240
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 14: that he's done. He did enough necessarily this year to

1241
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 14: warrant a significant raise, and I think that he would

1242
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 14: get more money from an other team on the over market.

1243
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 14: So this seems like a situation which the Bengals offer

1244
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 14: him something, he declines it initially, he sees what the

1245
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 14: op market has, and maybe he comes back to the

1246
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 14: Bengals on whatever deal that they offered. Could be a

1247
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 14: similar situations WI Germany and Pratt went through a couple

1248
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 14: of years ago when he decided to test the market,

1249
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 14: and he surprisingly came back for a little bit less

1250
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 14: money than what you would have expected, So I could

1251
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 14: see something to play out like that. But to give

1252
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 14: you a real answer on Gino Stone, there's just no

1253
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 14: there's no logistical reason as to why that would lend

1254
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 14: to a resign. And I think for as inadequate as

1255
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 14: the Bengals are in some decision making, I think they

1256
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 14: are pretty good at realizing when the players is not

1257
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 14: a fit and it's just not good anymore. And I

1258
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 14: feel like that's just the case of Genus Stones. So

1259
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 14: Gina may have more confidence than himself as a player,

1260
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 14: and you may feel like he can thrive in another defense,

1261
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 14: but it's not gonna be here.

1262
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: I well, I'll finish on the Bengals with this. Demetrius

1263
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: Knight and Barrett Carter, and I think you could look

1264
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: and say, okay, Demetrius Knight was improving. I don't look

1265
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: at them as legitimate linebackers if you're trying to win

1266
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: a championship, and I think that's a position that's gonna

1267
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: be very telling this offseason. What are your initial thoughts

1268
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: on the linebacker room, because again, it's not at stage

1269
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: right now where the Bengals can just wait on guys

1270
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 2: to develop for a couple of years. You need guys

1271
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: that are making an immediate impact to try to win

1272
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: a championship. What are you of you going into the

1273
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 2: offseason as what all unfold at the linebacker position when

1274
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: next year comes around, I totally agree.

1275
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 14: I think that obviously both Carter and I will be

1276
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 14: on the rodster just because they were drafted last year

1277
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 14: and they're not going anywhere. I think it's more unlikely

1278
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 14: that both are going to be benched rather than both

1279
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 14: are going to start. But I do foresee situation where

1280
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 14: it's like in twenty twenty when Logan Wilson and Jermaine

1281
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 14: Pratt were brought in. Obviously, Pratt had a year at

1282
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 14: his spell, but then they signed Josh Biden's in free agency,

1283
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 14: and Bides played a good chunk of that twenty twenty season.

1284
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 14: He was a veteran, he knew what he was doing,

1285
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 14: and he typically made the right play more times than not.

1286
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 14: I think a veteran free agent like that that could

1287
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 14: play significant snatch that could start over at least one

1288
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 14: of them, at least for most of the season until

1289
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 14: maybe whomever you decide over, whether it's Carter or Knight,

1290
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 14: whoever needs more time on the bench whoever needs more

1291
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 14: you know, leadership in front of him and someone to

1292
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 14: teach him in some tutelage there. Whoever you decide to

1293
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 14: kind of stash on the bench there, they can kind

1294
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 14: of learned under that Josh Bines type better. And there

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Speaker 14: are a couple of options that you can look at

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Speaker 14: in free agency that kind of fill that role. That's

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Speaker 14: what I foresee is the most likely scenario there, because again,

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Speaker 14: I don't think that you can roll into training camp

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Speaker 14: with both Knight and Carter as your undisputed starters there,

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Speaker 14: because even if it's possible that both of them in

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Speaker 14: pre after this year, you can't take that risk going

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Speaker 14: into Week one.

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Speaker 2: A is E Sports John Sheeron, John, We thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, appreciate every saying, uh, what is your what's

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Speaker 2: your off season look like?

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Speaker 15: Now?

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Speaker 4: What do you got going on?

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Speaker 14: The off season is completely chaos, right, Anything can happen

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01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 14: at any time except the Bengals fire and a head

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Speaker 14: coach here, So you know, whatever stuff does happen, We'll

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Speaker 14: be on it on any of the sports Cincinnati will

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Speaker 14: be on it on your social media platforms, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 14: wherever you can find eight of these sports Cincinnati. We

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 14: are there with short form video content and obviously the

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Speaker 14: articles on any of these sports dot com backs by Sinnati.

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Speaker 14: Think you got so much for having me on with

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Speaker 14: this year.

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Speaker 2: John, you're the best man. We'll talk again soon, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: John here eight eighty sports.

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Speaker 3: He's already agreed to let me call him for the

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Speaker 3: combine beautiful and the draft beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I forgot the mission on the U Way. We'll call

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Speaker 4: him again for that.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll pick up for that call.

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Speaker 4: Probably not. You may not answer that call.

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Speaker 3: Your talkbacks come up next on the hold of the

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Speaker 3: Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 13: Hey Alexa, an episode of since e three to sixty

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Speaker 13: Here every show at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com.

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 16: Go and grab your phone and record a message.

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01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 4: Just hit that microphone. Please keep it clean and don't

1334
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 4: be mean.

1335
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 17: And those sprinkle sprinkle, drip drip.

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01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: It's up time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 16: It's her favorite party since E three sixty, So Austin, buddy,

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01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 16: play those talkbacks on your screen and please drive not

1339
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 16: do sabotage it, all right, here we.

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Speaker 2: Go, the Thursday edition of Talkbacks coming your way right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit scared because the first one came

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Speaker 3: in at two thirty eight a m.

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Speaker 17: Man.

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01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: Those always just get me pumped up.

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Speaker 13: What's up, guys, Big Kahune, Oh you're sorry for the back?

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01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 13: And then yesterday I was saying it West Miller's rooting

1347
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 13: his self for any job in the future the way

1348
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 13: he's acting.

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01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: No thanks on Travis Steele.

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 13: I wouldn't mind Darren Horn obviously, bring back hugs or

1351
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Speaker 13: go get somebody else.

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Speaker 4: The guys I'm up. Think they happened last week.

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Speaker 13: The highest they gave I couldn't sleep.

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Speaker 4: I won't be able to eat all day.

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Speaker 13: I'm gonna be constipated all day.

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Speaker 4: Do anything worried about this game tonight.

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Speaker 13: I believe it a quarter century for this game tonight,

1358
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Speaker 13: and now we got a chance to get to the finals.

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Speaker 13: Canes thirty four, Oh miss twenty four.

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Speaker 4: That wow?

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Speaker 3: So he's up in excitement. I have so many questions

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Speaker 3: about Big Kahuna. Yeah, I think I think he's a bit,

1363
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 3: but I have heard from people close to him that

1364
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Speaker 3: say he's very much real. What's a Miami Hurricanes fan

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01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: doing in Kentucky. That's a great question. There's not a

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Speaker 3: lot of those. No, all right, the right, many of them.

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Speaker 3: Have a question for Duke Tobin. Oh, actually that's not

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Speaker 3: the question.

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Speaker 18: The question is moving forward, are the Bengals going to

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Speaker 18: continue to draft and develop good character guys? You know,

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Speaker 18: guys like Cam Taylor, pac Man Britt and Jermaine pac

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Speaker 18: Man Burton also ten years ago tomorrow Jeremy Hill Fumble.

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Speaker 3: All right, doll Man, I don't like that, don it.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question though. For Duke Hey, uh, what

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Speaker 3: are you going to do to prevent drafting bad guys?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that's a good point. Remember when

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01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: you guys were fired up slamming the table. Now that

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01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: was more Zach than do. But still, you guys are

1380
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 3: pretty pretty juiced about Jermaine Burton had four catches.

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Speaker 4: I got a question for you.

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Speaker 19: Did Aldie come in today with like chocolate stains all

1383
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Speaker 19: over the front of his shirt? Because yesterday was the

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Speaker 19: first day the Girl Scout cookies went on sale. Wow,

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Speaker 19: So with that, I got a question, what is your

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Speaker 19: favorite Girl Scout cookie? Mine is the thin mints, especially

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Speaker 19: if you freeze them.

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Speaker 3: That's a good call by Jim. I'll say this, thin

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Speaker 3: mints in the freezer is excellent.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I don't think I've ever seen you

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Speaker 2: eat Girl Scout cookies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can't answer that. I don't think you

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Speaker 4: came in with anything. I didn't have any stains on

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Speaker 4: me because I'm a grown man. Right.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna answer his question though about Girl Scout cookies?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite? I don't really like him, Come on,

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Speaker 3: I really don't. Oh, there's three that are good. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: thin Min's frozen. I like the peanut butter ones. I

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Speaker 3: don't know the names of them. And then the toast Yas.

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Speaker 3: Those are relatively new over the last few years. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: toast Yas are excellent. I'm not a big toast Ya either.

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Speaker 3: But Jim, we you're you got the wrong guy. Yeah,

1404
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,959
Speaker 3: there's somebody else that works here. You've mentioned him before.

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Speaker 3: He's big on the Girl Scout cookies.

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Speaker 12: TP fi Otter Craig from the U ben at Fellas,

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Speaker 12: Hope you guys are doing great. Hey, two things UK

1408
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 12: basketball stink stank stunk figure it out. Mark Pope also

1409
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 12: very intrigue about the sheets place you were talking to

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Speaker 12: Dan hordabout yesterday Mammoth breakfast sandwich. Please do tell go

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Speaker 12: big Blue who day?

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, sheets? Do people not know about sheets?

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Speaker 4: That's was wondering. Even I knew about sheets? S H

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Speaker 4: E E t Z.

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Speaker 3: Now there's a lot of them over where Dan was at,

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Speaker 3: like West Virginia, Pennsylvania, that area. They're everywhere. They're making

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Speaker 3: their way into Ohio. We got one in Sydney. Now

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Speaker 3: really the sheets. Yeah, but they have a twenty four

1419
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: to seven drive through where you can get any food

1420
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Speaker 3: anytime any place. We're talking tacos, sandwiches, breakfast sandwiches are

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Speaker 3: really good. They got bagels, they got coffee, You get

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Speaker 3: anything you want there.

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Speaker 4: Sheets. I didn't know this.

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Speaker 8: You know, Austin will be a pay horse stadium for

1425
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 8: the Christ Stapleton concert.

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Speaker 5: But it's not the sheet Chris Stapleton. He wants to

1427
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 5: see Laney sick.

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01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: Puffy hey man. Who wouldn't right?

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Speaker 6: Last thought for Duke to and this one to quote

1430
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 6: Dan Horde is a little bit deep.

1431
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 3: Uh, what if we hired a tight ends.

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01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 6: Coach from the Ravens, the Browns or the Steelers had

1433
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 6: them come in and sit without golden the linebackers and

1434
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 6: safeties coach and showed them exactly how they knew to

1435
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 6: exploit us down the middle of the field with tight

1436
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Speaker 6: ends wide open whenever they needed the gin yar coach.

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Speaker 3: Now that feels like a little bit more of a

1438
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor question. I like this, but that's a good

1439
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: I that's thinking. I like the boss just gots to.

1440
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 20: Be kidding me, repping the city out here, Sonny honts

1441
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 20: on it.

1442
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 4: What up, Tony?

1443
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 5: What up?

1444
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 4: Buddy? Check this out.

1445
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 20: I'm at work, just doing my thing, none of my business.

1446
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 20: They said, Yo, Natty, that's what they called me out here, Natty.

1447
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 20: They say, Yo, Naddy, the boss man looking for you,

1448
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 20: the big boss Man. I said, okay, I go up

1449
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 20: to the office, say yo, what's going on and everything

1450
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 20: I'll do. He said, yeah, a buddy of man. You

1451
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 20: know got sick. You know I got next to sick.

1452
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 20: To the Fiesta boat. I'm going to night leaving about

1453
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 20: five thirty. WHOA eleven rolls.

1454
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 4: From the fifty yard line.

1455
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 20: You want to go, I'm like, ok, I gotta do

1456
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 20: my second job of night.

1457
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 3: Oh man, quit dude, Man, Ronnie ron You only live once.

1458
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 4: Brolo.

1459
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: This is the Fiesta Bowl, a free ticket at the

1460
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: fifty yard line. Go to the game, man, that's tough.

1461
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 3: Other job be damned you pick up them shifts later. Yep,

1462
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: go to the game. That's tough.

1463
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 20: I'm like, man, I really wish I could go, but

1464
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 20: I can't because I got other obligations.

1465
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1466
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 20: And my other obligations is let's talk about sports as

1467
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 20: matter of fact. We thought I forgot about the Barracatch. Nope,

1468
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 20: I didn't cast stress. Nah, this ain't working, John Couneham

1469
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 20: at eighty, This ain't working. Coach sett this ain't working.

1470
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 20: We got to change the script. Man, this is hurting

1471
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 20: my Bearcats feelings. Man, this is not right.

1472
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 4: Yo.

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 20: The Bengals are actually gonna win a division next year. I

1474
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 20: think sixty one is our year. We actually want to

1475
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 20: make Hay. I'm giving the front office the benefit of doubt.

1476
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, still think you should go to the game.

1477
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 21: Addie, You're right.

1478
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 22: Signetti is the most pompish you know what in sports.

1479
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 22: Right now, hope Indiana gets boat raced. Also, Sworsby is

1480
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 22: the most overpaid athletes in sports history. Ever, he's not

1481
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 22: that good. Pike was better.

1482
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: Okay, too far his soresby run circles around pike.

1483
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 4: Wow, that hurts. That hurts?

1484
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 9: All right?

1485
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I wish we had a chance to see sores

1486
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: being a bowl game because that's where he could have

1487
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,480
Speaker 3: really separated himself.

1488
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 4: Between you and him.

1489
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: Those aren't easy to get to, but he doesn't really

1490
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time players easy to get to.

1491
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 3: All he needed to do was what win one as

1492
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: one bowl game as a starting quarterback to pass you?

1493
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 4: Is that right? Yes? Hey, guys.

1494
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 23: TJ east Side in a rare moment of agreement with Austin,

1495
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 23: I also think Signetti looks like a pompous ours. He

1496
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 23: looks like he would write a book called Signetti on Signetti.

1497
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 23: Austin five bucks if you get that reference That said,

1498
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 23: even being a Bucks fan, the Ius story is really cool.

1499
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 4: Let's go Rebels tonight.

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Speaker 24: Hey the college football Thursday, Tony and Austin. I think

1501
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 24: it's about time that we get west Miller a get

1502
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 24: back coach in the second half of games. This coach

1503
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 24: gets him back to the locker room where he belongs.

1504
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 3: Do you ever have a getback coach in high school?

1505
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

1506
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?

1507
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to tiny Stockton man. Wow, Tiny was our

1508
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 3: getback coach. He had a stick and he would whoop you.

1509
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: Oh he whoop you with a stock Yeah, he has

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Speaker 3: a stick old Tiny beer.

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01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 25: Wow.

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 4: Most get back coach would just say get back.

1513
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not Tiny. Tiny was a legend. Tiny

1514
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: was part of that thirty and oh team back in

1515
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 3: the day. The fields named after Okay, so Tiny had

1516
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: free reign.

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 26: Lord heaven, So what are the chances, Lord heavens? Looking

1518
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 26: at Max Crosby.

1519
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, we're doing.

1520
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 26: This the Bosa from the Buffalo Bills for their defense?

1521
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,440
Speaker 26: Am I dreaming thoughts? Prayers?

1522
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: I think you're dreaming. I'm praying for a pass rush

1523
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 3: that's for Yeah. I think Bosa is more likely than Crosby. Okay,

1524
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 3: I don't think either are that likely, but I think

1525
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 3: you should have. I mean, Bosa was thirteen million. Sure

1526
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 3: would you take him over Joseph Osaim.

1527
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I would take him over Osai.

1528
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 27: We've got Jamar, Chase, Chase Brown, and how about this

1529
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 27: for an offseason acquisition, Chase Young the three Chases. We

1530
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 27: could come up with a cool nickname for him. Saints

1531
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 27: are twenty three million dollars over the cat Chase Young

1532
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 27: is owed seventeen million dollars per season for the next

1533
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 27: two seasons. Tell me we can't go out there and

1534
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 27: get him. What is Duke Tobin going to do to

1535
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 27: fix this defense? I offer you, Chase Young.

1536
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 4: I like that idea.

1537
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: I thought they should have gone after him the last

1538
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: time he was available. All right, I can be bought

1539
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 3: into that. He's been productive for New Orleans.

1540
01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 4: KP fifteen, Addie the MW Dame.

1541
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 23: Earlier, you were talking about Wilder's celebration after he gets

1542
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 23: a bucket.

1543
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 4: Solve a debate for me in my circles.

1544
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 6: When a dB gets a stop and he does this

1545
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 6: thing over to the right side.

1546
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 4: Is he putting a sword away?

1547
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 18: Or is he snapping a seatbelt shut like he's got

1548
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 18: them on lockdown?

1549
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 3: What's that actually mean? I think it's I think it's

1550
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: locked in as a seatbelt. Yeah, that's how I've always

1551
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: viewed it. That's how I viewed it as well. But

1552
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 3: there are guys that like go two hands yeah and

1553
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: make it look like you're like a sword is being

1554
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: put in. Sure, it might be different for different guys,

1555
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 3: different strokes for different folks.

1556
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 28: What do you say right from cleeve. Hey, I kind

1557
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 28: of agree with what Nikola Chet said about what Mike

1558
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 28: Brown had to comment on in the relation to the Bengals.

1559
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 28: So I have a three part question. Is Mike Brown

1560
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 28: delusional so he really believes that? Or does he think

1561
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 28: Bengal fans are just stupid? Or is he the only

1562
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 28: one that's right and everybody else is wrong? Your opinion?

1563
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 4: Thanks?

1564
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 5: What?

1565
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 25: Just?

1566
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 4: What are they? What's he?

1567
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 3: What's he talking about? I don't know what did Nickolache say?

1568
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 3: Nickolasche came out and bashed the Bengals after Mike Brown

1569
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: penned that. I know, but like, what did he say that?

1570
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 29: Ray is?

1571
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't agree he said. I just thought I thought

1572
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 3: it was based on what he said about the letter.

1573
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 5: Now.

1574
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to offend anybody here, but I wouldn't

1575
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 3: walk across the street to see Nickola.

1576
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 4: Would you have done it twenty years ago? Hey, dude,

1577
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 4: can you even enlighten us?

1578
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 6: Your previous role is the Johnnys Toys Birthday Castle attendant

1579
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 6: is helping you build the biggest and best roster possible

1580
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 6: around Joe Burrow this year.

1581
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1582
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 29: Hey fella, Steve Montgomery, Tony, I think you're crazy to

1583
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 29: take Old Miss can win tonight. I want them to

1584
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 29: win two Audium in the same boat. But if you

1585
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 29: watch the way even two Lane's defensive line wasn't giving

1586
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 29: up running yards to Old Miss, and TWU Lane was

1587
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 29: doing pretty well in the trenches for a while. They

1588
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 29: just had no answer offensively. But I think Miami's gonna

1589
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 29: roll him. As much as I hate.

1590
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I think Trinidad has to play out of

1591
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: his mind if.

1592
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 2: I do too, But I think he's got the I

1593
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 2: think he's got the capability to do that.

1594
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 30: Yeah, Tonight's game would be so good. You know, usually

1595
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 30: I think I know who's gonna win this game. I

1596
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 30: it's so hard to call a night. Shambles was a

1597
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 30: magician the other night. He gets the ball out quick.

1598
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 30: You know what's in the gate? The Miami's defensive line

1599
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 30: a little bit, and with Layne Kiff and there, they

1600
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 30: are so motivated. It's gonna be a great game.

1601
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 4: Agree. I agree?

1602
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 30: Yeah, Tonight's game?

1603
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 31: Hello?

1604
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 5: Hello? What this William James?

1605
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 4: Robert dies Boney?

1606
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 15: Who's a better coach?

1607
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 4: Mark Poper or West?

1608
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 8: I mean, who who rises to the top on that

1609
01:17:58,479 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 8: and and one and one other thing?

1610
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 32: Your boy ever pulled out to fall asleep.

1611
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 4: And my boy, my boy Jody is involved in the game.

1612
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 4: He's getting the people's elbow. I guarantee it.

1613
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I love a brawl at a seven

1614
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 3: year old basketball I love it.

1615
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 17: Ron DC with the Day's fun fact. Did you know

1616
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 17: that David Klingler has as many playoff wins as Justin Herbert? Well,

1617
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 17: now it's back to play in my Atari twenty six

1618
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 17: hundred Space Invaders with Jamar.

1619
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: Did you know that?

1620
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 3: I didn't, But I think don't I have the same

1621
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: amount of playoff wins as Justin Herbert.

1622
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 4: I see what's going?

1623
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 21: Hey, Tony, Jeff and your Richmond. Happy Thursday to you

1624
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 21: and Austin both Hey. I was wondering about the West

1625
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 21: Miller thing. The more and more I thought about the

1626
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,879
Speaker 21: press conference from the other night. In the last two games,

1627
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 21: it's really uncomfortable. I'm just wondering, with sixteen games left,

1628
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 21: how sustainable is this? If things continue the way they're going.

1629
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 21: Oh wow, might be curious if you what your thoughts

1630
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 21: are and what Kegan's thoughts are as well.

1631
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 4: Take care.

1632
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'll ask Keegan, but I don't know.

1633
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 2: There's no way you can go down the current path

1634
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: that has been displayed for seventeen more games.

1635
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, among the things I'm most looking forward

1636
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 3: to in the sports world right now, it's the next

1637
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 3: West Miller post. Like I just can't no matter what

1638
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: happens with or lose.

1639
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 33: Yep, hey, guys, Marker from the Groove. Just another pathetic

1640
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 33: loss last night by the Wildcats at how Yep.

1641
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 5: I said it before and I'll say it again.

1642
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 33: We made a mistake, Pope Baked the guy might from

1643
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 33: LA before you start talking.

1644
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 4: No, we don't regret letting cow go.

1645
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 28: It was time for him to go.

1646
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 11: Well.

1647
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 28: Seventy seven days opening day.

1648
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 4: Man, Man, our guys going through it. I hate my afternoon,

1649
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 4: folks going through it like this.

1650
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marcus has been through a lot as a Reds fan.

1651
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 32: Yep to now, good afternoon, gentlemen. I hate the judge

1652
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 32: a book by his cover, but I feel like Austin

1653
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 32: would be the one of the last people to waste

1654
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 32: anything on the front of your shirt. Your brother, I'm

1655
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 32: making fun of you right there with you. Have a

1656
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 32: good one, guys.

1657
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 3: All right, okay, all right, folks, want to play some

1658
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: hardball today.

1659
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 29: Guy Steven Montgomery sorry for the double devil trying to

1660
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 29: be quick. I'd love to hear someone ask Cob and

1661
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 29: if his plan for the season started was to start

1662
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 29: two rookie linebackers or was his handforced by the play

1663
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,919
Speaker 29: of the guys that had already signed up. And secondly,

1664
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 29: when it comes to sheets, I sense a new sponsor

1665
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 29: for the.

1666
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 4: Show, take any of them? Yeah, I mean we get

1667
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 4: out it.

1668
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 34: Yeah, we're trying low t Tony and shooting Blake's mister Gilmour.

1669
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 34: Guys might think my question the duke tone wouldn't simple.

1670
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 34: It would just be why do you think Bonnie and

1671
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 34: Easy cannot get out of the first round in the

1672
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 34: Moral three on three tournament?

1673
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 3: What do you think Duke would say? Again, that would

1674
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 3: be one of those questions. It would be great just

1675
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: to see his face.

1676
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is Seth and Simms Township. Apparently God is

1677
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 8: not spiritual. He's fraudulent. Lord Heaven. I believe it's Lord

1678
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 8: in Heaven. He would know that if he were an

1679
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 8: actual deity.

1680
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 26: Who is the Lady Reporter. She's pretty bold and straightforward.

1681
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 3: There's a few of them. I think they're all pretty good. Yeah, hey, Duke.

1682
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 35: Thanks for taking the question. I was just curious on

1683
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 35: what your thoughts would be on this. For Mike Brown

1684
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 35: to be happy with your job performance in his old job,

1685
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 35: how bad was he at this job prior to you

1686
01:21:59,520 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 35: getting here.

1687
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 4: Man, that's a lot. Okay, it's a lot. That was

1688
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 4: our last one. All right, we'll take a break when.

1689
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: We come back. This date in Cincinnati.

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01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: Sports history, Okay, that next you're going to hear it

1691
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: on the Home of the Bengals. He's going to feel it.

1692
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: Fifteen thirty is not going to be easy. Cincinnati Sports Station.

1693
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Speaker 1: From free agency to the draft and everything in between.

1694
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: We've got the Bengals off season covered on ESPN fifteen thirty,

1695
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Speaker 1: the official home of the Bengals.

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01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: From the Stacey Heating tempts better late than never, there

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Speaker 4: we go.

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01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: Welcome back since e three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

1699
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Speaker 2: Sports Station, and a service of our good friends at

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Speaker 2: Cincy Shirts. He said, yeah, this date and sincey sports history.

1701
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking. We had somebody bring up earlier

1702
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: ten years ago. Tomorrow, Oh is the anniversary of the

1703
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: Jeremy Hill fumble. Oh what if I told you that

1704
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: twenty years ago? Today, the anniversary of this.

1705
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 36: Palmer on second down as he drops to throw and

1706
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 36: looking long right side, got Chris Henry out.

1707
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 8: The inside, the inside the third and.

1708
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 6: Taken down inside the Stanelers twenty five yard line by

1709
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 6: Troy Palomelo.

1710
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 14: And you have Carson Palmer is down.

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 15: Carson Palmer was wriggling around chemov on Allhoffen put the

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01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 15: hit on Carson Palmer.

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01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 4: Gosh, that that's tough to hear. What do you remember

1714
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 4: about that day?

1715
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Pain suffering the I think originally the confidence that they

1716
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 2: were going to win that game, feeling really good about

1717
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,879
Speaker 2: it going in, and then the pain that ensued. Yeah,

1718
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: and then even back then, I remember questioning will it

1719
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: ever be different for Cincinnati Sports? And it's crazy, that's

1720
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: a question we're still asking to this day.

1721
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: I often think of that team. They didn't have the

1722
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 3: best defense, but that offense could score yep. And I

1723
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 3: often think that they would have had a very good

1724
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 3: chance to win the Super Bowl that year. And the

1725
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 3: reason I say that is because if you think back

1726
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, New England played Denver ended up getting

1727
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: beaten by Denver. The Bengals, if they had won, would

1728
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: have gone to Denver, and so Indianapolis and New England

1729
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 3: would have played in the Divisional round, which meant you

1730
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: would have eliminated either Brady or Manning from the playoffs.

1731
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 3: Andingals had had some success against Denver in the years

1732
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 3: prior and leading up to that game, like really good

1733
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: defense that the Bengals destroyed, and I really feel like

1734
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,799
Speaker 3: there would have been a chance there for them to get.

1735
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 4: To the Super Bowl. Yep.

1736
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 3: And obviously Pittsburgh goes on to win it. They beat

1737
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: Seattle in that game.

1738
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Thanks for bringing up that memory.

1739
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: The first defense was unbelievable that year. But the Bengals,

1740
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean, one play sixty six yards to Chris Henry

1741
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 3: Palmer and Henry both got hurt, and then it was

1742
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 3: all John Kitna the rest of the way. What a

1743
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 3: good way to go into a break. Oh we still

1744
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 3: have about Oh we're gonna do it's one segment here, Yeah, okay,

1745
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 3: we still have plenty of time. All right, Well, let's

1746
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: take a phone callege. Okay, Dante, what's going on?

1747
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up, big guys?

1748
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 4: How you doing what?

1749
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 9: Man? Okay, I got a good thing to.

1750
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 11: Agree with.

1751
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 37: This mine agree with. But I got a way to

1752
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 37: fix the Bengals and nobody's don't like it, but it

1753
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 37: has to be done. My first thing is, and I

1754
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 37: hate it. I love the guy, he my hero, but

1755
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 37: we got to change the team around. I would trade

1756
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 37: Joe Burrow Raiders for they first, they second, they got

1757
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 37: two fourth rounders. They also would have to give us

1758
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 37: Max Closby defensive end. They have to give us lineback

1759
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 37: to Devin Waite, and they need to have to give

1760
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 37: us cornerback Blue Kelly or Faithty Jeremy King. That would

1761
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 37: help turn our defense around. Because I know everybody gonna

1762
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 37: jump on me, but Joe Flacco shell the blueprint that

1763
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 37: we just need an average quarterback with a strong arm,

1764
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 37: with a high i Q.

1765
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 9: And he was putting up points.

1766
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 5: We just couldn't stop nobody.

1767
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 9: So I mean, I just want to ask you guys

1768
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:39,879
Speaker 9: what you thought about that, because.

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01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 3: My first question is have you been drinking?

1770
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 37: Not yet, drink from the Bengals clad drink when the

1771
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 37: Binger says, but come on, man, you know you know,

1772
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 37: you know, uh, you know, break he loves him, and

1773
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 37: then we need a court they're gonna draft the quarterback.

1774
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 9: With the first thing, I mean, I.

1775
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 37: Know everybody loves Joe, Joe Burrow, but one he ain't

1776
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 37: gonna make a team and showed it this year.

1777
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 5: We don't have nothing.

1778
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 37: We got to rebuild and build over.

1779
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.

1780
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 37: I love Joe Burrow, but I'd rather have a team

1781
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 37: that's winning than just want superstar quarterback. Okay, and you

1782
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 37: know it's time to sign.

1783
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Dante, thank you for the phone call.

1784
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 3: Thanks Dante. I just don't think I'm there.

1785
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't think I am. I don't think I'm there.

1786
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: Now listen, and I appreciate, like I appreciate thinking outside

1787
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: the box.

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01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do. Yeah, I do too. Now he's

1789
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 3: he's I would require every single pick that the Raiders

1790
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 3: have like doesn't for the rest of their franchise history

1791
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 3: this year and their first next year, Ann Crosby and

1792
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: basically every starter on their defense. Then I would at

1793
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: least mull it over if that was the offer, and

1794
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 3: then I would say, no.

1795
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm there, but I do appreciate the

1796
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: outside the box thinking. Yeah, we've not heard from Jeff

1797
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: in quite some time. Hi, Jeff, I.

1798
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 3: Know Jeff's excited about today's news.

1799
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 14: Time to get back on tour.

1800
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 6: I think, aside from pay Corp, you got Fenway, you

1801
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 6: got Toronto.

1802
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 14: You got this big, big festival.

1803
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 6: Down in Florida with just a ton of people.

1804
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 5: Playing at it.

1805
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 6: So I got a bunch of other travel planed for

1806
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 6: for that time. I will definitely be a pay corps,

1807
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 6: There's no doubt. So I will be walking in as

1808
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 6: soon as whoever that second act.

1809
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 4: Is done, though, Okay, unless.

1810
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 6: My daughter goes with me, because then it'll be front

1811
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 6: and center.

1812
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 14: For Laney Wilson.

1813
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure that.

1814
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 4: Stock.

1815
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, Briefly, on the Carson Palmer game, every time you

1816
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 6: went to the bathroom after he got hurt, every bathroom.

1817
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 9: Was like a mini MMI mm a gym inside. There

1818
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 9: were so many fights.

1819
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 6: That day in the stands on the concourse, but stepping

1820
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 6: into a bathroom was like taking your life in your

1821
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 6: own hands. Because there were a lot of Steeler fans

1822
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 6: there that day, of course.

1823
01:28:58,600 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 14: Like there always was.

1824
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 6: But I just remember I was like, well, I can't

1825
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 6: have any more beer because I can't really go to

1826
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 6: the bathroom three more time. I'm risking my life when I.

1827
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 5: Step in there.

1828
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 6: It seems like so a very very very sad day.

1829
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 6: And the Jeremy Hill fumble I was watching here with

1830
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 6: all of our neighborhood crew, about seven of which are

1831
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 6: Steelers fans.

1832
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, tough, you know that.

1833
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 14: That's that's how it goes.

1834
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 6: But so you're expecting a ratings boom from Duke speaking

1835
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 6: at one o'clock tomorrow, Right, Tony.

1836
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 2: There has been more built up and excitement I feel

1837
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: like around Duke Tobin talking than than in quite some time. Unfortunately,

1838
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 2: I don't think that we're gonna get anything out of it.

1839
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: I think he's going to keep things very close to

1840
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: the vest. But I do think that there is an

1841
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 2: excitement around at least they thought of hearing from someone

1842
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: in the front office.

1843
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe queue up the Charlie Brown teacher sound effect

1844
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 6: Austin that made that made that may come into play tomorrow.

1845
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,640
Speaker 5: So have a great weekend.

1846
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 4: Jens, Jeff, thank you, man. I appreciate it. Yeah.

1847
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 3: I got a text yesterday. I won't reveal who this

1848
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: text was from, but it said the way Bengals fans

1849
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: are building up the Duke Tobin press conference is cracking

1850
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 3: me up. This is their playoff game, and that may

1851
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 3: be seen by some as an insult, but also I

1852
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 3: agree this is our playoff game.

1853
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,719
Speaker 4: How long we should we should treat it as such.

1854
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 3: We should go out, We should have people at Longworth,

1855
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: we should fill the banks.

1856
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 4: We should put it on the big screen.

1857
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 3: We should tailgate, have the Bengal bomb squad come on, hell,

1858
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 3: have the captain of them go to their seats, and

1859
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 3: let's do it.

1860
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 2: Make it a playoff game. Who says no, I don't know. Okay,

1861
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 2: at this point, what else do we have? Like, there

1862
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: are so many questions around this team, so many questions

1863
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: around this organization, and I, like I said, I doubt

1864
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 2: we get them answered, right, But at least it's something.

1865
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: At least it's close. At least it's more than what

1866
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: we've gotten in recent years. And I'll take that. We'll

1867
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 2: take a break. We still got two minutes we do. Yeah, Well, John,

1868
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: what's going on?

1869
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 17: John?

1870
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 4: You see the screen?

1871
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 17: Hi?

1872
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 4: John?

1873
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 11: Hey, Kenny, how you get it?

1874
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 4: What's up?

1875
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 36: I'm wanna tell you right now what Duke Kevin's gonna do.

1876
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 36: Everybody's so excited about this, this conference, press and everything

1877
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 36: I get.

1878
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 14: I guarantee he calls in tomorrow.

1879
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 36: He calls in dead.

1880
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 4: I hope not. That would be sad.

1881
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 3: Just can't make it into the studio, can't make it

1882
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 3: into the the facility.

1883
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 36: Yeah, he just can't do anything because because what I

1884
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 36: said was he's dead.

1885
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 10: Car.

1886
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 3: No car wouldn't start, you know, something like that battery's dead.

1887
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 3: Maybe the battery be dead.

1888
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 36: Sure, yeah, maybe it was like cardiac convert that got

1889
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 36: that DeMar Hamlin that one time.

1890
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1891
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 3: We just passed the universary of that too.

1892
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 4: Man.

1893
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 38: Yeah, well, I mean that guy didn't pass.

1894
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 15: Well he did for a minute, but he's he's good.

1895
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 10: Now.

1896
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 3: What do you want to talk about today, John, anything?

1897
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 36: Well, I just I know you guys ain't big spaceball

1898
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 36: fans like I am and everything.

1899
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 4: Like that, but.

1900
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 31: I just gotta gotta throw it out there.

1901
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 36: I think Carlos Beltram's getting in.

1902
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 31: He's gonna get about eighty two percent of the vote.

1903
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 38: And Andrew Jones is finally gonna get in.

1904
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 4: He's going big.

1905
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 36: Seventy seven percent of the vote.

1906
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 38: No, you got two new Hall of Famers this year.

1907
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 3: Okay, How excited were you John about Brandon Phillips getting

1908
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 3: into the Reds Hall of Fame.

1909
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 36: He's too, man, I mean, he's like, not even the

1910
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 36: that's the athlete.

1911
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 5: In his family.

1912
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 4: Well not right now, No, No, that's Jade.

1913
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 36: No, I really I really think he's probably in my

1914
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 36: in my honest, honest, honest opinion, he's probably the greatest

1915
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 36: second baseman besides Jim Morgan to play for since they

1916
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 36: read I mean you know dus lnn he wants to

1917
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 36: Go Gloves ELMS Rookie of the Year, wants from Go Gloves.

1918
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 38: But yeah, I'll definitely yeah, I mean.

1919
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 5: Well deserved. He's more deserving than that Bronston Royal guy.

1920
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 36: Like you know, like I mean, I don't you know

1921
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 36: what I'm saying.

1922
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1923
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 3: Good to hear from you. Good to hear from you.

1924
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 31: Hey, are you guys gonna come over?

1925
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 18: I love you?

1926
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Ye love, Yeah, I see it soon, John Love. You

1927
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: never know what you're gonna get. Man, we'll get too long.

1928
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 2: We'll get the more phone calls in our number three

1929
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 2: when we come back. Keigan nickoson, we got a lot

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Speaker 2: to talk about with Keegan On ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's

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Speaker 2: Penn Station. Thank you for sticking with us on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll get to some of

1940
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 2: your phone calls in this hour five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: talk the Cincinnati Bearcats.

1943
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Speaker 4: Let's do so.

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Speaker 2: The man covering Theearcats for Bearcat Journal dot Com, Kegan Nichoson,

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Speaker 2: in his normal Thursday time slide, joining us right now.

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Speaker 9: Hi, Kegan, Hi, pay How are you, Keegan?

1947
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 4: I'm great? How are you? How's your twenty twenty six.

1948
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what.

1949
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 31: I just want to give a quick shout out to

1950
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 31: the women's basketball team. Yeah, winners go first, giving giving

1951
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 31: Bearcats fans the first thing to cheer bout since maybe

1952
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 31: like October twenty fourth. Wow, So great, great job for

1953
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 31: Katrina Meriweather in that team.

1954
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well deserved. I think their first win against

1955
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 2: the top twenty five team since twenty eleven. That is

1956
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: a welcome sight beating a ranked team at fifth third Arena.

1957
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would like some more

1958
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 2: of that in twenty twenty six. I want to hold

1959
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 2: off on the basketball because I want to get that

1960
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: last real quick. On the football side of things, Keegan,

1961
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 2: we're at the Liberty Bowl. The Liberty Bowl happened, and

1962
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 2: it sounded after the Liberty Bowl like Manny Covey was

1963
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 2: one of those players that was going to be back

1964
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 2: with this team going forward. But as we learned earlier today,

1965
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Manny Covey is in the transfer portal as well.

1966
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:48,799
Speaker 4: What changed?

1967
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 31: Yeah, I think this is kind of similar to the

1968
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 31: Tony Johnson situation last year, Like you're expecting this guy

1969
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 31: to come back and have some sort of role in offense,

1970
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 31: and then you bring in two guys at his position

1971
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 31: and he's kind of putting a place where he has

1972
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 31: to make the best decisions for himself. I'm hearing he

1973
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 31: just wanted a fresh start, but I'd be surprised if

1974
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 31: it wasn't because of the additions that they made in

1975
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 31: Jabron Payne and Cole tab at A Stanford. I'm not

1976
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 31: hitting the alarms on this. Mayne Covey was good, he

1977
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 31: was fast, knew the system, but ultimately he didn't do

1978
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 31: enough to kind of eeke into the backfield with Tabby Walker,

1979
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 31: Evan pryor Corey Kiner. And I know that they're high

1980
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 31: on the guys that they are bringing in, and also

1981
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 31: Zion Johnson who popped in his true freshman season last year.

1982
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 31: So I'm hearing it's just a fresh start and they're

1983
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 31: making some moves to have a lot of competition, and

1984
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 31: he wants to go elsewhere.

1985
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 2: How much have you learned up to this point about

1986
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 2: j C. French and what the Bearcats have at quarterback

1987
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: coming in out of the portal.

1988
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 31: Yeah, I hear a lot of people being discouraged, and

1989
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 31: I completely understand it. I'm not going to say that

1990
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 31: you should be excited or like think that UC is

1991
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 31: gonna win nine games next season because they have JC

1992
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 31: Frinship quarterback. But he's he threw for almost three thousand yards.

1993
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 31: He can run, not as good at stores By. He's

1994
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 31: not like a blazing speed kind of guy, but I

1995
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 31: think he ran one hundred and thirty times for three

1996
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 31: hundred and fifty yards. But he was also sacked a lot,

1997
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 31: like I think it was in the twenties, maybe twenty

1998
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 31: five times last year. So I'm looking forward to seeing

1999
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 31: what he can do behind a better offensive line. I'm

2000
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 31: looking forward to seeing what he can do with Lorenzo

2001
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 31: Fenner and Isaiah Johnson and whoever else they bring in.

2002
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 5: But he's a he's a good accurate.

2003
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 31: Quarterback, he can make plays, might be kind of a

2004
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 31: game manager, but I think they could have done much worse.

2005
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 31: That's my official statement on it.

2006
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 2: Are there any players that they have landed in Portal

2007
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 2: yet that that we're not talking about Hienough for that

2008
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 2: you're high on.

2009
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 31: I think Lorenzo Fenner is really good. His tape and

2010
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 31: what he did after the catch was really really impressive,

2011
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 31: and I think that that's something that you see can

2012
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 31: use kind of a get the ball in the guy's

2013
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 31: hands and let him make a play. I think Isaiah

2014
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 31: Johnson is that kind of guy as well. But in

2015
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 31: terms of the transfers, I've heard Ty goodwell. It is

2016
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 31: kind of like that Jake Boldey type of player, and

2017
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 31: no one really knows about him. But he's a PFF darling.

2018
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 31: I think he graded an eighty four last season and

2019
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 31: play safety, so that's a position to need, so I

2020
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 31: would expect him to have a huge role in the

2021
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 31: defense next year and play shafety and whatever defense you

2022
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 31: see is running. So right now, I would look at

2023
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 31: Fenner and Goodwill, and then they've got a few other

2024
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 31: guys that I believe are gonna come in here soon

2025
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 31: that I'm very excited about, but can't publicly disclose at

2026
01:38:59,080 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 31: the moment.

2027
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 2: What defense they'll be running, How fast or how quick

2028
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: do you imagine a defensive coordinator will be named for

2029
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 2: this team?

2030
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 31: I mean, I'm kind of waiting on it at any

2031
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 31: moment because if you're defensive transfer, how comfortable are you

2032
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 31: committing to a team who doesn't have a defensive coordinator

2033
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 31: in place?

2034
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 5: Like how do you know how.

2035
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 31: You're gonna fit exactly in the defense? Because so many

2036
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 31: linebackers play a specific linebacker spot. Like Antoine Peak is

2037
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 31: an interesting case to me. He played Star He really

2038
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 31: really fit that necessary position very well, So like, I

2039
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 31: don't know where he's gonna play next year. Not to

2040
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 31: say that he's gonna leave you, he's already said he's

2041
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 31: coming back, But those kinds of players, I just think

2042
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 31: it gives transfers clarity and when you can kind of

2043
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 31: have them meet the defensive coordinator that they're gonna play

2044
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 31: up under next year.

2045
01:39:58,439 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 5: It just helps the process.

2046
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 31: So they need to kind of have an urgency with

2047
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 31: that like they did with getting their quarterback, and I

2048
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 31: would expect to happen in the next.

2049
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 5: Couple of days.

2050
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 2: Lastly, on football, the bar is my question now because

2051
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: going into the year last year, people would have probably

2052
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: said seven wins, Yes, that's an improvement, that's good. When

2053
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 2: you see how it transpired and they lose five in

2054
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: a row again down the stretch, it takes away a

2055
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 2: little bit from that. So I'll ask you, if this

2056
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: year was seven, what's the bar next year that you're

2057
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: setting for this football team in regards to win.

2058
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 31: Gosh Adakog returns in twenty twenty seven, Yes, I would

2059
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 31: say if he makes a bowl game, okay, he will,

2060
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 31: I would expect him to be back.

2061
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,719
Speaker 5: You lost so much, You've got.

2062
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 31: A quarterback recruit that you're excited about and Brooks good

2063
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 31: and then maybe he can work and play as a

2064
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 31: red shirt freshman. But in all likelihood they'll probably go

2065
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,759
Speaker 31: to the portal again next year. I think six wins

2066
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 31: with this group, after losing so many studs, I think

2067
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 31: that that would be a quote unquote successful or good

2068
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 31: enough season. For Cincinnati, I don't think they have the

2069
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 31: talent and like their schedule is hard next year, especially

2070
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 31: when you look in conference. Yeah, I think getting the

2071
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 31: series wins would be a good enough season and a

2072
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 31: successful season.

2073
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: Let's switch gears to basketball, and I know this is

2074
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 2: the topic of conversation for everyone. You see starts twenty

2075
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 2: twenty six by not being able to execute down the

2076
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 2: stretch against Houston. Houston scores the final seven points and

2077
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 2: then just under the five minute mark. The other night

2078
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 2: against West Virginia, UC is only able to manage three

2079
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 2: points down the stretch in a game in which they

2080
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: led by five with just a couple minutes remaining. But

2081
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: not only what's happened on the floor, Keegan, it's what

2082
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 2: happened after the game, the postgame comments after Houston from

2083
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 2: west Miller and then following those up with the post

2084
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 2: comments after the West Virginia loss. What is the feel

2085
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 2: around this program right now? And what did you make

2086
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 2: of the hearing Wes Miller after those games?

2087
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 31: Yeah, the feeld around the program is I don't think.

2088
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 5: It's been this low in a long time.

2089
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 31: I think the comments after the game were striking to me.

2090
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 5: Just because of I don't want to speak out of

2091
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 5: turn by any means.

2092
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 31: I don't know what it means to be a college

2093
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 31: basketball coach, but it feels like he doesn't really have

2094
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 31: a sense for what the fan base is feeling right now,

2095
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 31: and it's kind of like, you're in year five, you

2096
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 31: haven't made a tournament. You have you could say, two

2097
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 31: signature wins in five years at BYU and at Texas Tech.

2098
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 31: The big recruits that you've brought in haven't really panned out,

2099
01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 31: and then like, the fans give you five and most said, really, well,

2100
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 31: I think it was yesterday. The fans have given you

2101
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 31: five years, and now it's kind of getting to the

2102
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 31: point where, hey, you're eight and seven and you're projected

2103
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 31: on Ken Palm to finish fourteen and seventeen and only

2104
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 31: win one game in the entire month of January. So yeah,

2105
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 31: the fans are going to be upset, and it's kind

2106
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 31: of just like, Okay, you're upset, well, true, you basically

2107
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 31: it's us against the world, and you can quit on

2108
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,840
Speaker 31: us and we'll just continue grinding and doing whatever. So

2109
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 31: I just don't know why that's the route he's taking. Obviously,

2110
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:40,480
Speaker 31: he's a very very emotional dude, he's very, very passionate.

2111
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 31: You can see it when he coaches, So it doesn't

2112
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 31: exactly surprise me that he's passionate with how his team

2113
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 31: and out how.

2114
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 5: His players are perceived. He loves his players.

2115
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 31: And he's going to defend his players. I just don't

2116
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 31: agree with taking that route when you're a year five

2117
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 31: and in all honesty, you don't have a ton to.

2118
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 5: Show for it.

2119
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 4: I think it's unique. Yeah.

2120
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 2: Now, I think it's unique because, as no mentioned as well,

2121
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 2: it's year five, they went into a new conference, which

2122
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, that gives you a little bit of time.

2123
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 2: From my understanding, UC has been very competitive, as it

2124
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 2: pertains other basketball schools on the amount of money they've

2125
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: raised and given out an nil to field the roster.

2126
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 2: I think you could also argue that there has been

2127
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 2: talent on this roster, especially when you look at players

2128
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: that have moved on that are playing elsewhere right now.

2129
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 2: And the bar we talked about the bar. The bar

2130
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 2: was not like, hey, going into year five, you've got

2131
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 2: to win the Big twelve. It was make the NCAA tournament.

2132
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 4: So I'm with you.

2133
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: I feel like the frustration from fans who have supported

2134
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 2: this team and always have supported this team is more

2135
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 2: than warranted right now.

2136
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 31: Yeah, And part of what he said it made me

2137
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,720
Speaker 31: feel like he was surprised that it was happening. And

2138
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 31: I feel like Wes Miller a guy who played at

2139
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:01,480
Speaker 31: North Carolina and the like in those big stakes college basketball,

2140
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 31: And he even said it in his opening statement.

2141
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 5: When he took the job.

2142
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 31: At his opening pressure he said he loved he wanted

2143
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 31: the shot because of the expectations and because of the pressure,

2144
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 31: and like, this is what comes along with it when

2145
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 31: you're in year five with no NCAA tournament appearance. Mick

2146
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,799
Speaker 31: Cronin said some crazy stuff after games, but he also

2147
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 31: won NCAA Tournament games and made the NCAA Tournament basically

2148
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 31: every year. So like you just have to be able

2149
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 31: to build up a resume to be able to say

2150
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 31: this kind of stuff. And at the end of the day,

2151
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 31: I don't think Wes.

2152
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 4: Has done that is a is it a talent issue?

2153
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 2: Because I do think you can look and say the

2154
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 2: guys are playing hard. So a lot of times in

2155
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 2: coaching scenarios you say, as a team quit, it does

2156
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 2: feel like they're playing hard, but they're just coming up

2157
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 2: on the wrong side. Is it a scheme? Is it

2158
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 2: a talent issue? What do you see as the main

2159
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 2: factor as to these late games blunders that are that

2160
01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 2: are causing losses.

2161
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 31: I don't think it's a talent issue, because it doesn't

2162
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 31: take talent for an eleven percent three point shooter to

2163
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 31: not take a step back three when you're down by one,

2164
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 31: and for Sincere Harris to try to do like up

2165
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 31: and under layouts in transition and shoot a bunch of

2166
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 31: jump shots when he's also shooting horribly. And it doesn't

2167
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 31: take that much talent to not shoot or not fallot

2168
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 31: three point shooter, Or it doesn't take talent to score

2169
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 31: two points in the final minute of the game, or

2170
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 31: score more than three points in the final four minutes

2171
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 31: and forty six four minutes and forty six.

2172
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 5: Seconds of the game. Like, it's not a talent issue.

2173
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 31: There's some sort of disconnect with he Like one of

2174
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 31: the biggest things he pounds home constantly is good shot selection,

2175
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 31: and game in and game out, you see this team

2176
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 31: take horrible shots, and it's it's like, are they not

2177
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 31: listening to him? Or is he just trying to like

2178
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 31: feed that to the media, And it's not something he preaches,

2179
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 31: but it it has to be something he preaches because

2180
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 31: he's a D one basketball coach and he knows how

2181
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,799
Speaker 31: important that is. So I don't think it's a talent issue.

2182
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 31: Baba Miller is a dang good basketball player. So since

2183
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 31: your hairs, Dada Thomas is like one of the best

2184
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 31: players in the Big twelve, Gisel James, who's seen what

2185
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 31: he can do, and he still needs to get kind

2186
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 31: of acclimated and get like five or six games games

2187
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 31: under his belt. But I'm not going to sit here

2188
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 31: and say they don't have enough talent, especially when you

2189
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 31: can look at the players they brought in and compare

2190
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 31: it to the market and know how much money they

2191
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 31: had compared to what the football team was dealing with

2192
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:37,879
Speaker 31: and why so many.

2193
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 5: Players are leaving.

2194
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,839
Speaker 2: So now can it get better? They traveled to UCF,

2195
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 2: which is a good basketball team on Saturday. They host

2196
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Colorado next week, and then the number three team in

2197
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 2: the country comes into fifth third, and then you go

2198
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 2: on the road to the number one team in the country.

2199
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's two games in. I think

2200
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 2: you know, I was talking with Mo about this yesterday. Keegan,

2201
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 2: there's still seventeen guaranteed games from this team. It's not

2202
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 2: like this is playing out the string in late February.

2203
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: So can this get better? And if not, how much

2204
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 2: worse can this get?

2205
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 31: It can get better, I just have no reason to

2206
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 31: believe that it can because of just the continued consistency

2207
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 31: of not being able to close out games and not

2208
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 31: being able to make plays in the.

2209
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 5: Final five minutes.

2210
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 31: And like, it's not like it gets easy this weekend

2211
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 31: because you have to go play at UCF who just

2212
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 31: beat Kansas with Darren Peterson scoring twenty six points in

2213
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 31: twenty three minutes. So it's not like their best player

2214
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 31: just disappeared. Like like I said before, they have the talent,

2215
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 31: that's not an issue. They just have to figure out

2216
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 31: how to make the plays in the final five minutes

2217
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 31: to close out games, because they just they disappear. They

2218
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 31: go in four minutes scoring droughts. But in the Big twelve, like,

2219
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 31: you're facing some of the best coaches in the country,

2220
01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 31: some of the best players in the country, And if

2221
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 31: you're not gonna start making like a ton of threes

2222
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 31: and if Jalleons Felesting isn't gonna start making five fores

2223
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 31: game like it did against West Virginia, I just I

2224
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 31: don't see it, and I don't know if it can

2225
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 31: get much worse. I think it's gonna be a team

2226
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 31: who gets out to Leeds and a lot of the

2227
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 31: games that they're supposed to win or would be evenly matched,

2228
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 31: and then they let the other team go on an aight.

2229
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 5: Ohero run and then that's kind of it.

2230
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 31: Like the plot line of Houston and West Virginia. I

2231
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 31: feel like it's gonna happen a lot.

2232
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 2: If it does happen, and if we see postgame press

2233
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: conferences handled the way we have, does West Miller make

2234
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: it through the rest of this year?

2235
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 4: Quite honestly, through.

2236
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 5: The rest of this year?

2237
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 31: I would say yes, just because college basketball coaches are

2238
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 31: treated differently than football, and that like, you don't get

2239
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 31: fired during the season. Like my alma mater gave their

2240
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 31: guy a freaking going away for last year and like

2241
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 31: fired him, but he resigned mid season, and that's even

2242
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 31: kind of weird.

2243
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't expect them.

2244
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 31: To be fired before the season ends, just because of

2245
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 31: the nature of college basketball.

2246
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 5: But you never know if the if.

2247
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 31: The postgame press conferences continue like that, and he's just becoming.

2248
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 4: But I think we lost. We lose Kegan.

2249
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 3: I think we did. We lost him. Yeah, that was

2250
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 3: my last question for Keegan. Okay, so we wrap it.

2251
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 4: Keegan. Are you with us now?

2252
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 12: Hello?

2253
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 4: Yes, we lost? Welcome back.

2254
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 5: Sorry.

2255
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 31: I'm in Oxford, Ohio, So I probably don't have.

2256
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 3: To God bless you man to think that in such

2257
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 3: a place, people live such a life. What do you

2258
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 3: What are you doing in Oxford?

2259
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 20: This is where I live.

2260
01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:58,959
Speaker 5: I live in the boonies.

2261
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 4: You live in Oxford? Are you serious?

2262
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous, Kigan.

2263
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,759
Speaker 2: I do have to ask you. You you like Oregon

2264
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,560
Speaker 2: tomorrow night? You think they have the edge against the Hoosiers.

2265
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 14: Oh, shut up.

2266
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 31: It's the best college football team that's ever been, the

2267
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 31: greatest that's ever led a group of men.

2268
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm gonna see.

2269
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 31: Indiana thirty eight Oregon seventeen.

2270
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 4: Man, how about that.

2271
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you that you get to experience this, Keigan.

2272
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 3: Every sports fan deserves a run like this, especially football fans,

2273
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 3: and I'm glad that your experience. I'm not kidding, I'm

2274
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 3: being I'm being very genuine about this.

2275
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

2276
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 2: I'll probably get to feel it back to back when

2277
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 2: you see makes a run next year.

2278
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 3: He's not a fan of you see he covers you see.

2279
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 4: He's a fan.

2280
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 2: I listen, I see him in the press box. He's

2281
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 2: a fan first, and he's a job.

2282
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 31: You don't have seen me in the You're in your.

2283
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 4: Fan first job.

2284
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 3: Second, Kean, can you confirm that Tony Pike is a

2285
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 3: compulsive liar?

2286
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 31: I can neither confirm nor Yeah, there's a confirmation in

2287
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:18,759
Speaker 31: and of itself.

2288
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 3: Thanks, gonna grab me something from Begelin DELI would you?

2289
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 4: Oh?

2290
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 5: I will thank you.

2291
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 3: Keegan, maybe go to Patterson's. Kegan's the best great breakfast over.

2292
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 3: He puts up with us like many people did. I

2293
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 3: didn't know he lived in Oxford.

2294
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:34,719
Speaker 4: He was just cruising around.

2295
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 3: I did learn something about Keegan the other day that

2296
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 3: he doesn't know how time zones work. So I asked

2297
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 3: him to join me before the Liberty Bowl at two

2298
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 3: o'clock and he said, I can't. That's when the game

2299
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 3: is happening. And you, of course know the game didn't

2300
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 3: start until four thirty. And I thought that was his

2301
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 3: way of saying, I'm not talking to you, dude, leave

2302
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 3: me alone. I just left it alone. And then he

2303
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 3: texted me today. He's like, I'm really sorry, man, I

2304
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 3: got my times confused. It's a hard thing to factor

2305
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 3: time zones and how those work. Two pm Eastern is

2306
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 3: when we had them on today. Yeah, we'll take a break.

2307
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 3: We have Reds News, Red's News, and we'll take some

2308
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:13,719
Speaker 3: more phone calls. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen

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Speaker 3: thirty at Sincy three to sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 1: There's no better latest than you're at.

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01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 39: Bingals like ESPN fifteen thirty.

2312
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 2: Welcome back since e three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 2: Sports Station. We have multiple phone calls to get to

2314
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 2: in just a few moments before that, Austin, I know

2315
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 2: we have some Reds breaking news from today.

2316
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 4: We do.

2317
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 3: None of this has been made official by the local

2318
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 3: ball club, but multiple reports across insiders throughout baseball are

2319
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,560
Speaker 3: reporting that the Reds have avoided arbitration with four players

2320
01:53:56,200 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 3: so far today, the first of which is utility infielder

2321
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 3: Gavin Lucks. The Reds have signed Lux to a five

2322
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 3: point two five million dollar deal that is a little

2323
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 3: bit higher than his projected number of five million dollars.

2324
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 3: They've also signed Spencer Steer for four million, which is

2325
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 3: just a touch lower than his projected number of four

2326
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 3: and a half million dollars. Will Benson has signed a

2327
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 3: one point seven to two five million dollar deal, which

2328
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 3: is right about what he was projected across various accounts,

2329
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 3: and centerfielder TJ. Friedel signed a three point eight million

2330
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 3: dollar deal, which is over a million dollars less than

2331
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 3: his projected number of four point nine million. The bar

2332
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 3: so the local ball club Tones saving a few bucks

2333
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: on a couple of players, all for that big splash,

2334
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 3: getting ready to make. It's going to be a special season.

2335
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 4: Can't wait.

2336
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 2: Uh, we have some callers that have been waiting to

2337
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 2: talk to us, so let's talk to them now.

2338
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 3: What's up, Randy, Tony Austin, How you guys doing today?

2339
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 21: Good?

2340
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 4: How are you terrific?

2341
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 5: Good? Good? Well, a couple of things.

2342
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 15: One, I got a new appreciation for Kegan since he

2343
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 15: lives up in Oxford. So it's like, uh, maybe he

2344
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 15: can go watch a good basketball team up there.

2345
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 4: He could he could watch the RedHawks.

2346
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 15: Oh they don't play the same schedule.

2347
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 5: I get all that, but hey, give the give.

2348
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 4: The coach a sixteen sixteen and oh yes, you got it.

2349
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 15: I got to ask you guys, Okay, a couple of things.

2350
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 15: I want to know your picks, and I want to

2351
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 15: know the picks all the way through for the College

2352
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 15: Playoffs series, Old, miss Miami, who you got?

2353
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 4: I got a miss.

2354
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 5: Austin.

2355
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 3: I think Miami is going to win?

2356
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 15: Okay, uh, Indiana Oregon?

2357
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 2: I got Oregon beat in Indiana. It's hard to beat

2358
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 2: a good team twice. I got the Hoosiers.

2359
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 9: And I live in Indiana.

2360
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 15: And I hate to say it, but Tony, I tend

2361
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 15: to agree with you. I think Oregon it was a

2362
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 15: is Ohio state from last year, and I think Indiana

2363
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 15: is Oregon from last year. It's like they're getting all

2364
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:17,959
Speaker 15: the pedals and this and that. And I think Oregon's

2365
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 15: gonna walk in there really kind of pissed off because

2366
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 15: they lost to him.

2367
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that.

2368
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 5: Do you guys got who do you guys got in

2369
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 5: the finals? Then you got my winning at all? Okay, Austin, I.

2370
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 3: Got Miami beating Indiana. Wow in the national Championship.

2371
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 5: The Wow, that would be Austin. I hope you're pick

2372
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 5: does it.

2373
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 9: If Indiana makes it that far.

2374
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 5: They need to go all the way.

2375
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 15: So and I'm a Hoosier, So it's like, I love Kurtzanetti.

2376
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:49,960
Speaker 9: Is like, you know, if you have a coach like that,

2377
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 9: I mean, is he.

2378
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 5: Brash, yes?

2379
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 15: Is he kind of like weird and awkward? Yes, but

2380
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 15: you know he he just OSes confidence. And it's like, okay, dude,

2381
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 15: I'll take you afy.

2382
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 31: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh Houston.

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01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 15: I got to ask this because it's like Pittsburgh shouldn't

2384
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 15: even be in that game if if well, the Bengals

2385
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 15: should have wondered last game.

2386
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 5: If they had a kicker.

2387
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 15: And I like Mac, but it's like, da gone, dude,

2388
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 15: how do you miss two extra points? But how do

2389
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 15: you miss a forty four game winner?

2390
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 5: So who do you got? Austin?

2391
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take a Texan. I'll take Houston.

2392
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 15: Good good, Well that's fine. Is this Tomlin's last game?

2393
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 17: No?

2394
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 4: I think he'll be back. I don't think.

2395
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 5: So where's John Harball going?

2396
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 3: All right, Randy? Thank you.

2397
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have Locks of the Night sponsor.

2398
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 2: If you want a sponsor, we'll talk about it. Like

2399
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 2: I was just I don't know. I feel like I

2400
01:57:58,440 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 2: was on a hot seat right there.

2401
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 3: He's like, well, I got him on the phone, I

2402
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 3: might as well keep asking questions.

2403
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 4: Let's try Gary.

2404
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 9: Hey, Gary, gentlemen, how are you doing this sa afternoon?

2405
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 4: What's up better now that you're here?

2406
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 11: Garby, I hesitate the comment about things that I'm not

2407
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 11: necessarily an expert on in basketball is definitely not one

2408
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 11: of them. I played a few years in my youth,

2409
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 11: but I have been a baseball coach for forty three years.

2410
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 11: In sports being sports, it's all from a mindset in

2411
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 11: my opinion, so when coaching baseball, and it's always been

2412
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,440
Speaker 11: youth baseball, although I've coached guys all the way up

2413
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 11: to the age of forty. One of the things that

2414
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 11: you preach and try to get across to people is

2415
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 11: is it's about confidence, which is a nice way of

2416
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 11: saying you have to believe in yourself. You have ice

2417
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 11: in your veins. And there are times when watching these

2418
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 11: young men play for you see, I sometimes wonder, yes,

2419
01:58:55,320 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 11: it is shot selection, you know, and when they're seven

2420
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 11: seconds on the you know, left on the shot clock

2421
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 11: when he shouldn't have been doing that, and things like that.

2422
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:10,120
Speaker 11: But I just wonder, are these guys playing to win?

2423
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 11: Are they playing not to fail?

2424
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2425
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 2: I feel like Garry I appreciate that. I feel like

2426
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 2: with UC in general, they do lack of confidence. And

2427
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 2: we Boston. We've talked on this show a ton about

2428
01:59:21,640 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 2: confidence and how that relates to sports. And I look

2429
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 2: at a team that when things get close and it

2430
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 2: gets to be down the stretch in those meaningful minutes,

2431
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 2: I think they look tight. I think they shrink. I

2432
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 2: don't think they have the guy that wants to take

2433
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 2: that shot. And I think that's a major problem. And again,

2434
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 2: confidence can take you far, it can also knock you

2435
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 2: down very very quickly. We've got time for one more, John,

2436
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 2: what's up?

2437
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 4: Hey?

2438
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 38: Just to keep in line with Randy, who's buried in

2439
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 38: Grant's tomb?

2440
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 4: Anything else? Yes?

2441
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:53,080
Speaker 9: Anything else? Yeah?

2442
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2443
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 38: What times does the plane mead from Sanatis Detroit? I

2444
01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 38: was just I was I thought you guys were under

2445
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 38: indictments something.

2446
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 2: I want to know if if Austin wouldn't have cut

2447
02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 2: that off, how long would we have been going this

2448
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 2: answering question?

2449
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 4: We'd still be going.

2450
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 38: Well, I would have put my head in the toilet

2451
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 38: and slashed it, So that would have been one thing

2452
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 38: that could have possibly happened. But first of all, Chris

2453
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:16,839
Speaker 38: Napleton's coming too Family Park on August fourteenth, So maybe

2454
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 38: I'm gonna fly out to Cincinnati for the first so

2455
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 38: you guys fly out some Oh I like that fourteen

2456
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:24,320
Speaker 38: I only problem I see what that guy is Bengals

2457
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 38: pre season.

2458
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw.

2459
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure they obviously are not going to be anywhere

2460
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 3: near town that time, but I saw the Finway Park

2461
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 3: one and I thought, oh that might be it might

2462
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 3: be worth a trip.

2463
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:38,560
Speaker 4: Buck.

2464
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 3: If he hadn't been coming to Cincinnati, I might have

2465
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 3: pulled the trigger on Yeah.

2466
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:45,839
Speaker 38: Yeah, well we got time to think about it, right, Fellas?

2467
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 9: Sure? Absolutely?

2468
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 14: Why not?

2469
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 31: The other thing too?

2470
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 38: With Kurt Signetti, I think he's.

2471
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 9: A distant, distant, distant.

2472
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 38: Relative of mine Italians who's voweled the last names and

2473
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,160
Speaker 38: then an I tend to be related, and I had

2474
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,879
Speaker 38: cousins last name Signetti. In fact, one of my mom's

2475
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:07,320
Speaker 38: cousins was the captain on BC's nineteen forty Orange Bowl

2476
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 38: winning team. So maybe I'm a long lost relative of Signety.

2477
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 38: But I can't trust an Italian guy who has a

2478
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 38: first name Kurt, Like, we don't name people Kurt in

2479
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 38: our culture. But before I go, I know you've probably

2480
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 38: pressed up against it. And I talked to Austin about

2481
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 38: this on Monday.

2482
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 5: Is do the easy.

2483
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 38: Things first, then that makes the tough things easy to do.

2484
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 38: That's what Austin talked about on Monday. If you go

2485
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 38: grocery shopping and you have twenty items to get, get

2486
02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:33,680
Speaker 38: the ten ones you know where they are. You know,

2487
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 38: you get the Cannic war and you're gonna go get

2488
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 38: the bread, You're gonna go whatever. And then the other

2489
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 38: ten items you don't know where they are. You lay

2490
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 38: leave those for last, so that you you know you've

2491
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 38: got your Criet film Dalton Rysan wants to come back.

2492
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,240
Speaker 38: Get him signed, you know, do all of these things.

2493
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 38: And the other thing is is there a coincidence that

2494
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 38: maybe Chaman Stuart not signing early enough led to some

2495
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 38: injuries during this very and Trey Henderson, Trey Henderson is

2496
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 38: the same thing. So so avoid injuries, get these guys

2497
02:01:57,400 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 38: in early and get up the steed much earlier.

2498
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 2: Completely agree, John, Thanks for the phone call, man. We

2499
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 2: appreciate you anytime.

2500
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 5: Fellows.

2501
02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, make the easy thing happen and then worry about

2502
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 4: the rest.

2503
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 3: We'll take a break, we'll put a bow on things,

2504
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 3: and then we'll Welcome in mowagar all still coming up

2505
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 3: since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

2506
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 3: Welcome back thanks.

2507
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 4: To Penn Station.

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02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 2: It's our number three of Sincy three sixty on the

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02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 2: Home of the Banks ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 2: Moager will join us in just a few moments, looking

2511
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 2: ahead real quick to tomorrow though Austin Duke Tobin is

2512
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 2: set to talk at one Duke Does that mean we're

2513
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 2: gonna move Charlie in the show?

2514
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:49,879
Speaker 3: That's correct, Charlie has been very flexible, Charlie said two o'clock.

2515
02:02:50,360 --> 02:02:52,400
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna move him back. This is normally we'd

2516
02:02:52,680 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, off air, or talk about tomorrow.

2517
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Are we planning on carrying the entire length of Duke Tobin?

2518
02:02:59,160 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 4: Uh?

2519
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 3: Could you maybe find a different way to phrase that.

2520
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:07,839
Speaker 2: Will we carry in its entirety the Duke Tobin press conference?

2521
02:03:08,680 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

2522
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so long as is they broadcast it, so if

2523
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 3: we need to, we would move talkbacks in now our

2524
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 3: number three. Possibly we'll keep everything as normal as possible.

2525
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 3: But obviously for something that you hear ads being read

2526
02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 3: on commercials here, this is where you come to hear

2527
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin.

2528
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 4: Yes, Cincinnati Sports Dam Dukeie Tobes.

2529
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is one of my favorite

2530
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 3: days coming up. I don't even know what's gonna happen,

2531
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 3: but I'm I'm thrilled for this as a Bengals fan,

2532
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:39,920
Speaker 3: because this is a squeaky wheel.

2533
02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 4: Gets the grease right.

2534
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,280
Speaker 3: There has been a squeaky wheel of Bengals fans demanding

2535
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 3: to talk to Duke Tobin, and we thank for this.

2536
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 3: Strikes no, you think a lot of people Number one,

2537
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin for coming and doing it, that's a good thing.

2538
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 3: The Bengals for doing it, Emily Parker and the whole

2539
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 3: group over there, PJ. Combs, all those good people they're

2540
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 3: doing it, and obviously the local media who has put

2541
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:10,280
Speaker 3: in multiple requests to talk to Duke. I think that's

2542
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 3: a good thing. This is the bare minimum for a

2543
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 3: National Football League team to have your decision makers meet

2544
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 3: with the media, and so it's a good thing that

2545
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 3: we're doing things that we should be doing.

2546
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 4: Correct.

2547
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 3: This feels like the easy part, and it's unfortunate that

2548
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 3: it felt like it took this long or required this

2549
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 3: much pressure or I don't know if if the Bengals

2550
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:40,000
Speaker 3: were winning games, if anybody would care that much. But

2551
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 3: this is life in the NFL, and when things go wrong,

2552
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 3: people want to ask questions. People want accountability. Yeah, they

2553
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 3: want answers. And I wonder too how much this might

2554
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 3: be tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.

2555
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 8: Guy.

2556
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 3: I wonder if Zach Taylor said, hey, man, be nice,

2557
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 3: if you can help me out, be nice, if you could,

2558
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 3: if we could be teammates on this. Yeah, especially after

2559
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 3: that interaction a couple of weeks ago between Trags and

2560
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 3: Zach that we talked a lot about. Yeah, you know,

2561
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:15,000
Speaker 3: that's putting Zach in a tough spot. And Zach has

2562
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 3: been putting a tough spot a lot up there. And

2563
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 3: I wonder if there was at that moment some reflection

2564
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 3: is like, Okay, maybe maybe I should talk or maybe

2565
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 3: we should have Duke out there.

2566
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2567
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 3: I don't pretend to know how they think.

2568
02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 2: Do you see it as more of a one off

2569
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:32,920
Speaker 2: or do you see it going forward as maybe we

2570
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 2: we do hear more from Duke Tobin.

2571
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 3: I would like to hear more from him. I don't

2572
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 3: know that. I would say it's going to be a

2573
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 3: common thing. Yeah, because if they come out next year

2574
02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 3: and they go twelve and four. Sure, I'm talking about

2575
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,960
Speaker 3: like off season wise or yeah, but I'm saying, like,

2576
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,360
Speaker 3: if if they go twelve and four next year, let's

2577
02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 3: say they lose in the first round of the playoffs,

2578
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 3: whatever it might. However this season ends good or bad,

2579
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 3: are we gonna hear from Duke again? If it's good?

2580
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 3: Are we going to hear from Duke again? Because if

2581
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 3: they're smart, you talk when you're good too. Yeah, and

2582
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 3: you have a chance to come out here and put

2583
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 3: yourself on the back yeah a little bit, yeah about

2584
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:13,000
Speaker 3: what you've done. So I hope that it's a common thing.

2585
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 3: And we've talked often about how the Bengals are years behind,

2586
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 3: you know, doing and operating the way that a top

2587
02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 3: flight NFL franchise does. This is one of those things

2588
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 3: where it's it might seem like a small thing to

2589
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people, but a lot of teams do this,

2590
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 3: and I'm glad that they're doing it. Yeah, And we

2591
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 3: may not get anything out of this that we like.

2592
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 3: That's what I fear. We have this whole thing, we

2593
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 3: build up, and at the end of it, it's like, well,

2594
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:40,800
Speaker 3: got nothing out of that, and we move on and

2595
02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 3: there's also the idea that hey, you know, he he

2596
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 3: catches a wild hair and makes another one of those

2597
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 3: comments about not going to pay the team, or not

2598
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 3: going to pay the same for the same team, or

2599
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 3: get your own t Higgins, I'm not in the business

2600
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 3: and make another team better. We're not going to sit

2601
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 3: on our hands. Do you remember when we first started

2602
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 3: doing this show together, Duke Tobin said at the it

2603
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,320
Speaker 3: was either at it was at the Combine that we

2604
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 3: are not going to sit on our hands. Do you

2605
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 3: remember how many times that off season I played that cut,

2606
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin, We're not going to sit on our hands.

2607
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 4: Yep.

2608
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:20,440
Speaker 3: We played it constantly, and that was when the Bengals

2609
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 3: put together the best off season maybe in the history

2610
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 3: of the FRANCHISEE So, in an ideal world, Duke says

2611
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 3: something similar to that, He's give us something. Gives me

2612
02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 3: a cut that I can play all off season, and

2613
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:35,280
Speaker 3: the Bengels go back to the Super Bowl. I'm in

2614
02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:37,440
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to find it now, but my computer's

2615
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 3: not work. That we hope for tomorrow. For now, Mowagar

2616
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 3: stands by to join us next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

2617
02:07:45,560 --> 02:07:46,360
Speaker 3: Sports Station.

2618
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 4: On Tony Tyke Sin was looking for Mo Moe's in

2619
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:52,160
Speaker 4: the building.

2620
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 2: A't Cincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN fifteen to

2621
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:59,400
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Up next the Mowagers show.

2622
02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 4: Hi, we are certain not gonna sit on our hands.

2623
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 4: We're looking for that tomorrow, the big day tomorrow.

2624
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 25: Is this the most highly anticipated press conference in the

2625
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:11,240
Speaker 25: history of since.

2626
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 4: Any We will get nothing out of it.

2627
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 25: Because most press conferences, you know, they're called in like

2628
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 25: an hour later they happened this, this has had.

2629
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 4: Like a week long build up. Dukee Tobin is working today. Boys.

2630
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:28,760
Speaker 3: The Bengals have made a move. Oh, the Bengals have

2631
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:33,480
Speaker 3: signed free agent wide receiver Dante Myers. Wow, he's a

2632
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 3: red five foot eleven Get him from the marrow, Dane Myers. Oh, sorry,

2633
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 3: five eleven, eighty six pounder. It's been with the Saskatchewan

2634
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 3: rough Riders for the last two years.

2635
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:44,839
Speaker 4: Nice, I love the rough Riders.

2636
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 3: In those last two years, nineteen games, eighty nine catches,

2637
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 3: fourteen hundred yards, nine touchdowns, also had eleven kick returns

2638
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 3: for three hundred nineteen yards, nine punt returns for ninety

2639
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:56,440
Speaker 3: four yards.

2640
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 4: And they say they don't turn over Stones. We're trying

2641
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 4: to run Jamar Chase out of town?

2642
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:02,200
Speaker 20: Is he.

2643
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 4: Like slot machines? Can he pay his rent?

2644
02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:08,480
Speaker 25: No?

2645
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 2: Stone on Turn can show up to work on timeh

2646
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 2: Bengals made a move, Red's made a couple moves, save

2647
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:18,320
Speaker 2: some money. Unbelievable arbitration, Yeah, unbelievable.

2648
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 3: You think the Reds used the TV deal in their negotiations?

2649
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,120
Speaker 25: Like, listen, you know I've said this for years that

2650
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 25: the single greatest accomplishment in sports in my lifetime has

2651
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 25: been how baseball owners have gotten fans to care about

2652
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 25: their bottom line. So, uh, I'm I'm sure there are

2653
02:09:37,160 --> 02:09:40,200
Speaker 25: fans who have been just locked into those arbitration cases

2654
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 25: hoping that the Reds can just improve their bottom line

2655
02:09:43,040 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 25: just a little bit.

2656
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 2: Here they are, Yes, but yes, the Duke Tobin a

2657
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 2: lot of build up. Will it deliver? No, it's not

2658
02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 2: what you said in the over under on time?

2659
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 25: Ass Oh, I'm I bet you this is long thirty Yeah,

2660
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 25: I bet you this is between twenty five and thirty minutes.

2661
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 4: You're certainly not going to on our hands.

2662
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 25: You're gonna be playing a lot of commercials between one

2663
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 25: thirty and two thirty tomorrow.

2664
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. So now, you talk about deliver. Is it gonna

2665
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 4: make people feel good?

2666
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 24: No?

2667
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 4: Is it gonna stoke the flames of outrage? Maybe?

2668
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 25: Is there the potential that something interesting is said? Yeah,

2669
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 25: I think so. I actually think Duke Tobin, in the

2670
02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:23,840
Speaker 25: few public settings he's put in it's pretty good. I've

2671
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 25: said this to you guys. I think the one thing

2672
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:30,160
Speaker 25: that he does well is he goes on the TV

2673
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 25: broadcast Bengals have, you know, preseason and he sits with

2674
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 25: Mike Watt and Anthony Munho. Is pretty good, pretty good

2675
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,280
Speaker 25: at talking about the roster and stuff like that. Now

2676
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 25: that's when things are going fine. It's the serenity of

2677
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 25: the preseason. I'm less interested in hearing the captain come

2678
02:10:43,320 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 25: on and talk about, you know, how nice the conditions are.

2679
02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 25: I need you to come on when there's some turbulence

2680
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,240
Speaker 25: and so that's what this is. So I think it's

2681
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:54,880
Speaker 25: gonna be interesting to see if Duke comes out with

2682
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 25: his fists. Meaning typically when he's in a setting like this,

2683
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:02,000
Speaker 25: it's the combine, it's the owner's meetings, you know, it's

2684
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 25: training camp.

2685
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 4: Now people are pissed off.

2686
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 25: He's got a season that went poorly to answer for

2687
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 25: sort of in response to that, is he a little

2688
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 25: antagonistic or is he reflective?

2689
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 4: Is he insightful? We'll see. My guess is insightful.

2690
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 2: Do you think this is a one off or do

2691
02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:20,440
Speaker 2: you think going forward we do hear more from Duke Tobin.

2692
02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:22,400
Speaker 25: This is probably what I want to know the most,

2693
02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 25: because I just think this is an interesting dynamic.

2694
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 2: Like Austin said that, like when you're doing well, you

2695
02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 2: should want to do it too. Yeah, I pat yourself

2696
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 2: on the back a little bit. You don't have to

2697
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 2: do it every week.

2698
02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 25: You don't have to do a Monday and a Wednesday

2699
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 25: press conference like Zach Taylor. I do think, in the

2700
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 25: spirit of pseudo transparency, Hey, four or five times a year,

2701
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:46,800
Speaker 25: answer questions, answer questions in a setting like this where

2702
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 25: people don't have to drive to Indianapolis to come hear

2703
02:11:49,480 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 25: from you, just like the bye week, regardless of when

2704
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 25: it is, regardless of how the season is unfolding. Wouldn't

2705
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:58,360
Speaker 25: it be interesting to hear from the de facto general

2706
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,520
Speaker 25: manager about what's going on, what's happening with the team,

2707
02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:05,680
Speaker 25: where his head is, his perspective. Why can't that happen

2708
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:08,600
Speaker 25: more frequently? And I am interested in whether or not.

2709
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:11,200
Speaker 25: That's going to start to become the case. What do

2710
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 25: you have coming up on your show today?

2711
02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 4: You know, very.

2712
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 25: Quietly, while there's a lot of anger about the Bengals

2713
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 25: and a lot of anger about area college basketball teams,

2714
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 25: the Reds have put together the same team as last year,

2715
02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 25: and Vegas is telling you it's the same team as

2716
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 25: last year. Eighty three and a half is the over unders.

2717
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 25: The question is going to become here because you know

2718
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 25: you're hearing about the TV deal. By the way, I

2719
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:36,600
Speaker 25: thought we could do this in the absence of a

2720
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 25: TV deal. The three of us go stand in the

2721
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 25: bow tie bar every home love it and just hold

2722
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:44,120
Speaker 25: a into the field stream it, do a commentary.

2723
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 3: And uh, don't we have to have the express written

2724
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:48,000
Speaker 3: consent a Major League Baseball.

2725
02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:51,280
Speaker 4: I'll get that, Okay, I find that I'm down. That's whatever.

2726
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:54,680
Speaker 25: Anyway, So the Reds have the same team as last year.

2727
02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:58,360
Speaker 25: Can you expect dramatically and the keyword is dramatically better

2728
02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 25: results if the team is the same. That's my question.

2729
02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 25: We've all done it. What if folks want to hear

2730
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:06,800
Speaker 25: from Duke Tobin will spend some time on that. Chad

2731
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 25: Brenda's going to join us to talk about the Bearcats winners.

2732
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 25: Go first, Katrina Merriweather's team upsets the eleventh rated Iowa

2733
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:14,640
Speaker 25: State Cyclones.

2734
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:16,880
Speaker 4: Many Covey's gone after a couple of days ago. He

2735
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:17,720
Speaker 4: just said he's coming back.

2736
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,919
Speaker 25: All things are possible as it relates to Bearcats basketball.

2737
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:27,800
Speaker 25: Ask Katrina Merriweather Boom needed it, Perhaps they'll be. I

2738
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:31,040
Speaker 25: don't know what the little rub off on the men's team.

2739
02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 3: Sure, he asked us earlier, if you were going to

2740
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:42,960
Speaker 3: take Duke Tobin's entire length tomorrow, what the entirety of

2741
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 3: the press conference?

2742
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 4: Yes? Are we planning on airing the entirety full length.

2743
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 4: I think that's what your audience wants to hear. Thank you.

2744
02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:55,360
Speaker 25: I mean nothing against the talkbackers or whoever we're going

2745
02:13:55,480 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 25: to do. The answer is yes, you don't want to

2746
02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 25: hear any more. Wes Miller, I don't. Well, I'm gonna

2747
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 25: listen to this Patino Wes Miller show tonight at eight o'clock.

2748
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:06,960
Speaker 25: I'm gonna leave interesting. Richard Patino here stinks. It does

2749
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:10,680
Speaker 25: stink like you see Yah, Kentucky gets lost. Kentucky but

2750
02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:13,160
Speaker 25: nine and six, Yeah, Xavier's one and four in the

2751
02:14:13,160 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 25: Big East.

2752
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:14,240
Speaker 4: That stinks.

2753
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 25: It does as a college basketball fan, as somebody who's

2754
02:14:17,320 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 25: carrying loves Miami Ohio car the Miami RedHawks, not Miami

2755
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 25: of Ohio. I don't live in Nebraska. It stinks. It's

2756
02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:27,440
Speaker 25: it's so much fun.

2757
02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:28,240
Speaker 5: I was.

2758
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:31,480
Speaker 25: I was talking to a UC staffer over the weekend

2759
02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 25: and I said, like, when all the teams are good,

2760
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,400
Speaker 25: and I get it, most folks root for their team

2761
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:40,960
Speaker 25: and they want everybody else to stink. But when all

2762
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:43,440
Speaker 25: the teams in this area are good, or there's at

2763
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:46,040
Speaker 25: least most of them are good, it is awesome.

2764
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:47,240
Speaker 4: There's a good game every night.

2765
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:51,640
Speaker 25: Folks are talking trash, there's you know, you're you're doing

2766
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 25: bracketology and talking about seating and we're not doing.

2767
02:14:56,360 --> 02:14:58,320
Speaker 4: Any of that, any of it.

2768
02:14:58,520 --> 02:15:00,400
Speaker 25: Savior loses to maybe the worst team in the Big

2769
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:04,000
Speaker 25: East last night on the road. U see season has

2770
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:05,960
Speaker 25: turned into what it has. I am going to talk

2771
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:10,040
Speaker 25: about Mark Pope, like, Mark Pope should call Wes Miller

2772
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:16,560
Speaker 25: and go, buddy, you think you think you think you

2773
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:17,400
Speaker 25: got a beat up there?

2774
02:15:17,440 --> 02:15:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, come down here are.

2775
02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:24,400
Speaker 25: There's no Lexington Bengals, right, there's no Duke Tobin press

2776
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 25: conference in Lexington not to save them, and so sometimes

2777
02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:28,920
Speaker 25: in life, perspective is needed.

2778
02:15:29,040 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 4: I like this. We'll provide some why Tree Young want

2779
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:32,080
Speaker 4: to go to the Wizards.

2780
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 25: I my question is, can you have a play in

2781
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:36,760
Speaker 25: tournament without Trey Young?

2782
02:15:36,920 --> 02:15:41,120
Speaker 4: It's a good question. That's a good question. Who was

2783
02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:43,040
Speaker 4: seven and nineteen all time against him?

2784
02:15:43,160 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're in the fan club or not.

2785
02:15:45,160 --> 02:15:48,560
Speaker 2: Will you be in the Q next Friday to get

2786
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:50,080
Speaker 2: your Chris Stapleton at pay court tickets?

2787
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:53,280
Speaker 4: Probably not? Okay, Yeah, probably not not. Chris Stapleton guy.

2788
02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:56,839
Speaker 25: Not a huge Chris Stapleton guy. Food Fighters are playing Nashville, Chicago,

2789
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:59,320
Speaker 25: and Columbus during that same time, and I want to

2790
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 25: go to one of more than one.

2791
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:01,000
Speaker 4: Of those shows.

2792
02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:03,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm still kind of heard about the whole

2793
02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:05,920
Speaker 2: Billy Joel Rod Stewart getting canceled last.

2794
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:08,880
Speaker 25: Yeah, Chris Tableton's good. I don't know, all right, I

2795
02:16:08,920 --> 02:16:11,160
Speaker 25: think I'm okay, all right, I'm all right. Michael lo

2796
02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:13,840
Speaker 25: runs into the Rockies, awesome, good for him, Happy for him.

2797
02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:17,840
Speaker 25: I like that guy hitting Corsefield eight million. What's the

2798
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 25: top three jobs in the NFL Open Open jobs right now?

2799
02:16:23,560 --> 02:16:28,600
Speaker 25: I earlier today, Baltimore, New York, Cleveland. Austin said, Baltimore,

2800
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 25: Las Vegas and the Giants.

2801
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,600
Speaker 4: Why is Vegas number two? Because they have the number

2802
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:34,560
Speaker 4: one overall pick.

2803
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:37,760
Speaker 3: The number one overall pick, they got some money. I

2804
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,600
Speaker 3: think their owner is maybe making fewer decisions from allowing

2805
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:43,039
Speaker 3: football people to make decisions.

2806
02:16:43,040 --> 02:16:44,000
Speaker 4: I had the Raiders at seven.

2807
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,960
Speaker 3: I think they have an interesting brand, I mean, and

2808
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 3: the Chiefs brand.

2809
02:16:48,520 --> 02:16:51,160
Speaker 4: I do care about the Raiders since the eighties. I

2810
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:52,840
Speaker 4: know they're largely irrelevant these days.

2811
02:16:52,879 --> 02:16:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, but I think they could be

2812
02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:56,520
Speaker 3: number could sooner rather than later.

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02:16:57,360 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 25: Well, you could say that about any NFL team, and

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02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:01,959
Speaker 25: I work for Mark Davis.

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02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:04,400
Speaker 3: It'll be a long time before the Dolphins are good.

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02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:07,320
Speaker 3: Hardest of all passes on that work for Mark Davis

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02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:11,560
Speaker 3: or Steven Ross. Who's my third choice? You don't have one.

2818
02:17:12,360 --> 02:17:15,480
Speaker 4: I'd really live in Miami than Vegas. Yeah, so you

2819
02:17:15,560 --> 02:17:16,360
Speaker 4: got the Ravens.

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02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:19,400
Speaker 25: Ravens the dry heat in Vegas though, Yeah, so that's

2821
02:17:19,440 --> 02:17:23,160
Speaker 25: my oven. I'm trying to do at the top of

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02:17:23,160 --> 02:17:24,520
Speaker 25: my head all the opening. So I was not ready

2823
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:24,720
Speaker 25: for this.

2824
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:27,480
Speaker 2: Raiders, Cardinals, Titans, Dolphins, Falcons, Browns, Giants.

2825
02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:37,199
Speaker 4: I'll go Ravens, I'll go foul. No, not Falcons, Ravens, Giants. Yeah, Crowns.

2826
02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:39,039
Speaker 4: The Deshaun Watson thing.

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02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:42,680
Speaker 3: Though Jimmy has them exists. Yeah, it's tough. Falcon's got

2828
02:17:42,720 --> 02:17:47,039
Speaker 3: some talent too. Titans, cam Ward, you got your quarterback.

2829
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:51,360
Speaker 3: New stadium, new stadium. Also, really bad owner, really bad owner.

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02:17:51,480 --> 02:17:57,280
Speaker 3: Amy's trunk Adams. Yeah, Nashville's cool. Nashville's fine. Tennessee for

2831
02:17:57,360 --> 02:17:58,800
Speaker 3: the Moger sweepstakes.

2832
02:17:58,840 --> 02:18:03,119
Speaker 4: Just Mark Davis al Davis's kids staks. We're done.

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02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:08,200
Speaker 3: He's not making a decisions. ESPN fifteen thirty. Yeah, that's

2834
02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:15,320
Speaker 3: not working out, Cincinnati Sports Station. Have a great Thursday.

2835
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Speaker 3: NFL Playoffs