1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Lady, you know that this hour of Softy in Dick 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: on your home for the Huskies and Kraken is probably 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: brought to you by Duke's Seafood. Why not make it 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: a Duke's night tonight. Reserve your table today at Dukeseafood 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: dot com on Sports Radio ninety three point three. Kjar 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: If all right here. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: He is only one man we turned to for a 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 3: variety of topics. We were looking for a guy who 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: could give us a thought on Kenneth Walker, Rashid Shiheed 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: in free agency, and also break down the air temperature 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: at t Mobile Park based on the roof being closed 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: or the roof being open. 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: That's the first priority. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: And the only man we could find that could handle 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: all of that was our buddy Hugh Breedlove. 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 4: Millan, who joins us right now on the radio show. 18 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Good to be with You. Sounds like you boys are 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: playing in the sandbox? How war you? 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: You know what? 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: Yes, we are every now and then you got to 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: get dirty. 23 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: Man, right, You got to children, I understand you've got 24 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: to get down with a steerage and then come back up. 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: And the regular folk, well, yeah, let's start with some 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: free agent talk before we get to the ear temperature 27 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: at T Mobile Park. Based on the roof, we're all 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: keeping an eye on Kenneth Walker. So you just what's 29 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: your gut right now, Right we're sitting here on the 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: friday before the tampering period that starts on Monday morning, 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: what's your gut on if this guy's coming back or not. 32 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: I think he's gone ye at this point, you know, 33 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: prior to all the inflection points being exhausted, you know, 34 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: on the timeline, you know, I was kind of back 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and forth, But at this juncture, I would be very 36 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: surprised if he's a Sea Hawk. I think that he 37 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: probably feels like he can be close to fifteen million. 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't think the Seahawks feel that way. It's obvious 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: they haven't signed him. It concerns me, but I am 40 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: not going to be a disappointed fan until I see 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: what the plan is. And I think that if anything, 42 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: the management, the leadership, Schnyder McDonald, they've earned it. But 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: I am concerned. I mean, you look at you know, 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: you take CA nine. Here's a guy that was there's 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: only four running backs in the league that had over 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: one hundred carries on the outside zone. Canine had one 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: hundred and eight. He had five point three yards. Charbonne 48 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: had about half of that, exactly fifty five. He had 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: four point five yards. Here's here's one for you against 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: stack boxes. Teams want to come down and stop the run. 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Canine that was fifty one percent of the time he 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: faced the stack box. He had five point two yards 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: per carry. Zach Sharbonnay fifty point three percent, exactly basically 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: exactly fifty percent of time, right, Zach Sharbonnay only three 55 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: point three yards per tempt. And so you know, I 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: think sometimes statistics, you know, you compare them to different teams. 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: The offensive line obviously has so much to do with it, 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: but if you get enough carries, I think it can 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: it can be statistically meaningful to compare these two guys 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: inside zone K nine. You know, five point six yards 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: on sixty carries, Zach Charboney fifty nine carries. He's only 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: three point three yards. You know, eventually, as Bill Parcells said, 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: you evaluate running backs, hand them the ball and see 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: who gets yards, and you know, you watch the end 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: zone copy and you just kind of I think it 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: takes a lot of reps to evaluate a running back. 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: But to me, you know K nine, you know he 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: was the dude and and even had charbonn ay not 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: got hurt. I'll throw one more statistic at you. These 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: guys are basically the same in terms of how many 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: times they they lose yardage, about right around eleven percent 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: and change of these snaps they lose yards, and of 73 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: course that obviously is impacted by the offensive line. The 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: number of times they get five or more yards pretty similar. 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Are both in the thirty four percent plus change. But 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: here's where it distinguishes. The number of times you get 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: ten or more yards. Canine he's at four point seven percent, 78 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: Zach at six point nine. So basically, one in every 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: six point eight carries Canine's gonna give you a ten 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: yard run or more. For Zach it's one in every 81 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: fifteen and a half. Now, I understand there's some short 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: yards goal line components to that, but you know your eyes, 83 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, confirm what the stats tell you. I'm I'm 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: for now. I'll hold off disappointment. See who they have 85 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: to replace. But I don't think it's anybody on that 86 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: Seahawk roster that is gonna give you anything. Near what 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Canine gives. 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: Well, I think we agree with you on both accounts 89 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 5: that Ken has probably gone and that they have to 90 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: bring somebody else in to replace. And we were throwing 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 5: out the name Rico Dwell in a couple of segments ago. 92 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: Is there anybody out there that you've done, you know, 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: at least enough research on that you feel good about, 94 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: you know, kind of a cursory comment on whether you 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 5: like him or. 96 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Not, you know, Dick. When when they acquire somebody, here's 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: what I'll promise you. I will roll up my sleeves. 98 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: I will spend a good portion of the night analyzing 99 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: all the tape, like when they were acquired rather Rashichi 100 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: Heat on November fourth. You know, I stayed up watched 101 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: every single play from the Saints, and you know, gave 102 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: you my my best effort at at an evaluation of him. 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna hold off until they acquire somebody. But 104 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: I will say this this, you can't sleep on this fact. 105 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: I think the Sea Arks are playing the long game 106 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: with their roster in a couple of ways. First of all, 107 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: they had twenty four rookies on the team last year 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: on the and and they've got some guys. They're they're 109 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: excited about it, and I know that we'll get to 110 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: it in our conversation today. But the compensation that now 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: it's only for their twenty twenty seven draft, right, But 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: if there's a net loss in free agents and they 113 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: I think that Seattle's gonna have a big net net loss. 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I think almost all these guys are going out. I 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: don't know who they're going to acquire. I think they're 116 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna be very selective and diligent on who they acquire. 117 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: We were. It's entirely probable that we'll be saying, Okay, well, 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: you know we're worse off now after the free agency 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: period and prior to the draft than we were. But 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: there could be got You know, you look at the 121 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: list of guys and it's all determined by you know, 122 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: if you're over twenty million, which Woolen could hit, that's 123 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: a third rounder. If you're over fifteen million, then you're 124 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: getting a fourth rounder. You know. That could that could 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: be Kobe Bryant, that could be Canine, that could be 126 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: Shahed Shahe could pop the twenty million, that could be Mathey. 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, now you only get a total of four, 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: but you could you could be as many as fourth 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, fourth and maybe even third round products. You 130 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: could really load up on compensatory picks for that twenty 131 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: and twenty seven draft, and I think it's really important 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: for the Sea Hogs to keep an eye on that. Here. 133 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, because you mentioned that you 134 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: were concerned about it. I think all of us are concerned. 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like you have another guy sitting there, right, 136 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: but with Sharbonnay being banged up, and who knows when 137 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: he's coming back and when he'll be back, you know, 138 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: one hundred percent, that could be November, for God's sakes, 139 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: right until the guy's ready to go. But most excuse me, 140 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: contract projections for Kenny Walker have him around the thirteen 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: million dollar range. Would you do that? Would you do 142 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: three years thirty nine million for Canine? Yeah, I probably 143 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: would have. I understand their position. I don't think I 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: don't think they would do thirteen I think that Canine's 145 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: camp think this is going to be closer to fifteen million, right, 146 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: And I don't. 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Think Seattle would really get close to that. I mean, 148 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: there's some questions about how he practices, and you know, 149 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: he's not always you know, on fire for practice. You know, 150 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: I just feel like they probably just they're they're ready 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: to part ways, and you've got you've got a hand 152 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: that to them. Uh And and remember now, remember now, 153 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna in an ideal world, they get JASN done 154 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and Spoon done. Spoon's gonna be thirtiest million. Jays N 155 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: forty is plus million. I mean they're gonna allot a 156 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: lot uh uh a lot a lot of cash to 157 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: these guys. And and so you uh, I think I 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: use an analogy earlier. You know, when you you load 159 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: up your car for a long trip, and you know, 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: the very first thing you load your trunk is is 161 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the biggest suitcase. Right, everything's all spewed out around your car. Right, Well, 162 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: you put those first big suitcases in first, and then 163 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: the little ones, the cameras and the purses and everything. 164 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: You find the little slots for those, right, That's how 165 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: you pack your car. Well, that's that's how Seattle's gonna 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: do this off season. I mean, they're gonna they are 167 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna the big suitcases are JSN and Spoon and then 168 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: everybody else that we're gonna talk about is just they're 169 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: just little handbags and they're gonna have to step get 170 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: stuffed into the cracks. And I think that the majority 171 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: of these guys are not going to be Seahawks. 172 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: Hugh John Schneider a number of times says traded high 173 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 5: draft picks multiple for players. The front page of the 174 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 5: paper today says, will the Seahawks make a major splash 175 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: and trade for Max Crosby? 176 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: Is that something you would even consider? 177 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: Not me. 178 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if they do. I don't. I don't 179 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: rule it out, like you know, I'll tell you one 180 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: that I would rule out that I just I would. 181 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: I'd fall over if Seattle sign that's Trey Hendrickson, there's 182 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, he'd be easier to acquire, 183 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: but he only plays on the right side, and he 184 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: doesn't play the defense. The defensive end component for Seattle. 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: Let me state this in capital letters. To play defensive 186 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: end for Mike McDonald, you have to set the edge first. 187 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: That is the most important thing for him, and then 188 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: if you fall into some sacks, great, But he is 189 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: more concerned about how you play the run. Crosby plays 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: the run real well. I look, he's going to be 191 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. I think that it would be 192 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: it would just take too much given where Seattle's with 193 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: the drafts, but I think they would considered. I'm sure 194 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: that they're having conversations about it. You know, I just 195 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: look at McDonald at Baltimore when when McDonald had the 196 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: great year the year before he came to Seattle, they 197 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: had the Triple Crown, fewest points in the NFL, most turnovers, 198 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: and most sacks. Who were their defensive ends. They had 199 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy and Jadevian Clowney. Both guys had been 200 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: on at least five teams. You know, that's journeyman. Take 201 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: it from a journeyman, Like you're on your fifth or 202 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: sixteen like van Noy was on his sixteen, Your journeyman 203 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: and on the wrong side of thirty. So he was 204 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: able to and that should be your primary. Like, if 205 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: you want to score runs in baseball, you better have 206 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: have some power in that third, fourth, and fifth spot 207 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: in the lineup, right, Well, you want to get sacks, 208 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: your defensive ends better be dudes, right, Miles Garrett or 209 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: somebody like that. No, that's not what Mike McDonald did 210 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: at Baltimore. That's not what he did last year. You know, 211 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: it was like the world is run by B students. 212 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: The pass rush was delegated by B defensive ends. Marcus Lawrence, 213 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: Chenna Nuosa, Derek Hall, Boy Mafe. They had a rotation there. 214 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: None of them were A players. You could maybe say 215 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: d law a little bit, but not when not compared 216 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: to the All pros, not compared to the Crosby's and 217 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons and the and the Miles Garretts of 218 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: the world. They're not a players in that regard. They're 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, just solid B dudes. And so I think 220 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: McDonald has been able to coach and produce great defense 221 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: without elite defensive end. That's why I think Crosby among 222 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons, I just don't think that Crosby 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: is gonna be a seahawk. But it would not stun me. 224 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: It would stun me if Trey Hendrickson is a seahawk. 225 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: Well, hum Millin's with us. 226 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: How about Rashid she Head, And I think that there's 227 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: a question about what they lose if they lose him. 228 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: He didn't do much as a receiver, as you know, 229 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: but he was obviously electric as a kickoff return and 230 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 3: punt return man. In very, very very important times for 231 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: the Seahawks. And there's some folks though, I think Dick's 232 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of one of them. And I'm gonna put words 233 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: in your mouth that think that Tory Horton can do 234 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: everything that Rashid she Heat can do for a lot 235 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: less money. 236 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 4: Do you believe that. 237 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: As a wide receiver? Absolutely, I think he'll be better 238 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: as a wide receiver Rachid she Heed. You know, he 239 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: only had eighteen catches two hundred sixty six yards in 240 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: twelve games. Right, that's counting the playoffs, right, you know, 241 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: multiplay that over seventeen that's a that's a season. 242 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: Three sep five in the regular season over seventeen games, 243 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: that's what it would have been about. 244 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: Well we'll we'll talk about on each other's mouth on that. 245 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: But but zero touchdowns and then Tory Horton, uh, he 246 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: had he had one hundred and sixty one, but he 247 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: had five touchdowns and and he was a rookie, he 248 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: and you know, his shins were bothering him. I think 249 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: they there was you know, the she the shin bone 250 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: was connected to the knee ligaments. And I think that 251 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: they kind of solved the issue, or they think they've 252 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: solved the issue pertaining to the ligaments and how that 253 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: impacted the shin. Now there's a concern because at Colorado 254 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: State he was also injury prone. But but here's a guy. 255 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: From a punt return standpoint. You think we're she she 256 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: heat electric right punt returns. She Hed averaged exactly fifteen 257 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: point zero yards per punt return over the season as 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: a Sea Hawk. You had Tory Horton was at fourteen 259 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: point nine. So but remember this, Tory Horton didn't have 260 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: a single kickoff return. He wasn't the kickoff return guy. 261 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, Halani and Derek Young were the kickoff return guys. Right, 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: So if you asked the question you asked me, can 263 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: Tory Horton provide what Reshid Shaheed did? First of all, 264 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: I think he'll be a better receiver, assuming that he's healthy. 265 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: I think that he will be not as good as 266 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: a punt returner, but but an ability to be you know, 267 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: a top you know, top quartile punt return in this league, perhaps, right, 268 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: but not as good as Shihed. And then the kickoff return, 269 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, magic and juice that Shheed supplied. You know, 270 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: Horton's not in that category. And and and frankly, nobody is. 271 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think that Shaheed emerged late 272 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: in the season as the most feared return guy. Look 273 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: how many times we talked about it. How many times 274 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: did they they just kick the ball in the end 275 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: zone and and just say, hey, we'll give the Seahawks 276 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: the ball on the thirty five yard line. We don't 277 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: want to mess with that, Shaheed smoke, no chance. 278 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, just again, just the math. 279 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: He had fifteen catches for one hundred and eighty eight 280 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: yards in nine games in the regular season, Hugh, for 281 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: the Seahawks. That's twenty one yards a game, is what 282 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: he averaged over nine games. You extrapolate that over seventeen games, 283 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: that's three hundred and fifty five yards. Is what he 284 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: would have done in the regular season. I'm just talking 285 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: about the games he played in the regular season, not 286 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: the playoff. 287 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: I was doing eighteen for two sixty six. 288 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: I've got fifteen for one eighty eight, eighteen for two 289 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: sixty six. 290 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: I mean, either way, it's not much, right. 291 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: At all, as twenty two yards whatever. The point is, 292 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: it's under four hundred, right, right, And yeah, you're doing 293 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: just regular season. I'm doing the combine. You know, both 294 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: of them are good points. You know, no sense being 295 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: in the weeds on that, but but yeah, the point is, 296 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: and by the way of his eighteen catches, you know, 297 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: had you hit me on November fourth, November fifth, the 298 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: day after they acquired him, and he said, hey, receit shihat. 299 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver. He has an interesting jersey number, 300 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: number twenty two. Let's how many how many catches do 301 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: you think he'll have? The seats are gonna play twelve games, 302 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna be healthy, and the well, we were done 303 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the calculation and said, well, wait minute, he's gonna play 304 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: twelve games. That means they're gonna play in the Super Bowl. 305 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: So already I like the beginning of your story. But 306 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: if we just said, what's the over under on how 307 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: many catches he's gonna have, where the balls in the air, 308 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: his jersey number or more twenty two yards or more, 309 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: if you would have set the over under it one 310 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: and a half, I'd have put my whole pension on 311 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: the over. If you had told me he's going to 312 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: be healthy for twelve games, and yet I would have 313 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: lost because he had one catch over twenty two yards. 314 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: The entire twelve games. So it just his speed was 315 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: impell He was more impactful running reverses on offense than 316 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: he was catching deep balls. And so now that that 317 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: was the first drive against the Rams, that was a 318 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: big one. The one that I'm just describing, the one 319 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: was against the Rams and that was awesome. Thirty six 320 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: are yards right and and a you know, set him 321 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: up for a touchdown there. That was beautiful. 322 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: The one down the right sideline you're talking about, Yeah. 323 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: Right down the right side sideline, run front of the 324 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: Ram bench. Yeah, that was uh, that was that was phenomenal. 325 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: But if you'd have told me that's the only one 326 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: in twelve games, right, So yeah, I think he's going 327 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: to be close to twenty million. It's going to be 328 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: hard to watch him return kicks and punts in another uniform, right, 329 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: But I you know, I'm I'm just you know, see, 330 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I was just not gonna pay it. 331 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 4: Let's get a break. 332 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: We got a lot more to get to, man, including 333 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: what does the air temperature do when the roof is 334 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: open versus the roof closed at T Mobile Park. 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We talked a lot about Kenny Walker Rashid 346 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: chi Heed in the previous segment. The legal tampering period, 347 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: which feels like kind of an oxymoron, starts on Monday morning. 348 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: Free agency players can start signing at one o'clock on Wednesday, 349 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: I mean the Saker. Let's be honest, guys, they are 350 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 3: poised to lose a lot of guys off. 351 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: This football team. 352 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 3: It's not just Kenny Walker, It's not just Shiheed, Kobe Bryant, 353 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: Reek Wold and boy A Mafe Josh Job, all those 354 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: guys on the defensive side of the ball. Tell me 355 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: about your take on those guys. Let's start with Reek Wolan, right, 356 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: it's a guy that barely played football. I remember the 357 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: first time Dick you and I had him on the area, 358 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: he said, Hey, you gotta give me a break. I'm 359 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: just getting to know this position. And now here he 360 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: is in line for a potential big ass payday in 361 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: free agency. 362 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: What do you make of his future? 363 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: Well, I think that he's going to be north of 364 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: fifteen million, and I don't think Seattle wants to pay that. 365 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: I think he's out. When you look at like the 366 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: three law is that Seattle had. His his play was 367 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: key in all of them, even the super Bowl the 368 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: touchdown you know that was that was you know where 369 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: he's asleep at the wheels. So I think that, you know, 370 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna be attractive to a lot of people because 371 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: of that skill set. 372 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: But I don't think he's a Seahawk at all. How 373 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 5: about Kobe Bryant. I know Mike McDonald loves that guy. 374 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if I had to bet, I would say no. 375 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: I think that the number that he's gonna be able 376 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: to fetch as a versatile guy, came into the league 377 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: as a corner. In fact, that Thorpe Award winner is 378 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: the best dB playing corner opposite Sauce Gardner at Cincinnati, 379 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: obviously converted safety. I think he's going to be again 380 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: another guy north of fifteen million. That's that's key because 381 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: of your fourth round com pick for the next year's draft. 382 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: I do not think Kobe Bryant will be a Seahawk, 383 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: but I think it's a maybe. I would I would 384 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: put in the category of probably not. Okay, how about 385 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: josh Joe, Yes, I think he will be a Sea 386 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't think the market will be enough for him. 387 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: I think that of of the starters on the defense, 388 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: depending on what personnel, but your figure, your your your 389 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: kind of your base Nickel, I think he's the number 390 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: eleven starter out of eleven. So you know, I even 391 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: said in the playoffs, so you know, if I was 392 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: opposing teams, I would attack him. So I I don't 393 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a great market for him. But 394 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he he you know, he's a 395 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Carl Scott. I think the world of him, the secondary coach, 396 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: coach Tom at Alabama. He's got got trades. You know, 397 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: we probably seen everything that Joshoba is gonna give you. 398 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: I think I think he's, you know, kind of a 399 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: fringe starter. But I think that he comes back to Seattle. 400 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: And how about boy A Boy of the Ford guy 401 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: h of the four defensive ends, I think he's he's 402 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: the best speed rusher of the of the four U 403 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: Channa d Law, Derek Hall and MafA. I think he's 404 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: the best speed rusher. But I think he sets the 405 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: edge of the worst. We already talked in the prior segment. 406 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a that's the prime component for Mike McDonald. 407 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: So I think that there's enough GMS out there they're 408 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: going to really love that speed rushing aspect. I think 409 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: he's more valuable to other teams. 410 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 3: I think he's out, Yeah, okay, so that means Rashid 411 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: Shaheed's out, Kenny Walker's out, boy A Mafe is out, 412 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: Requlin is out, Kobe brightt likely out, Josh Job coming back. 413 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: And and and for me, Josh Jones, I think that 414 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: I think Josh Jones comes back. I think he's the 415 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: best offensive tackles Seattle's had in several years as a 416 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: suing tackle. That was making those comments in August. He 417 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: ended up starting the last three games against the Rams, 418 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: obviously pivotal at Carolina and Week eighteen against the forty 419 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: nine ers filled in when when he was needed the most, 420 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: and we didn't do a lot of talking about him 421 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: on Mondays, which is a good thing. No news is 422 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: good news with a left tackle. I think he returns 423 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: as a sea off Okay, that where's the biggest need? 424 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 3: I mean if Kenny Walker is like if you were 425 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: to have told somebody I don't know three months ago 426 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: that we're gonna have Hugh Millen on the air the 427 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: friday before the legal tampering period starts in free agency, 428 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: and you're gonna ask him with the Seahawks biggest offseason 429 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: need will be guarantee he's gonna say right guard, because 430 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: the guy hates Anthony Bradford. Okay, we're still there. Where 431 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: a upgrade at right guard is still the biggest need 432 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: in your mind? 433 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: Well, I would, I would agree with everything you said. 434 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: I would bristle that I hate him. 435 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: I don't hate him, hate him as a player, not 436 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: as a person. 437 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: For God's sakes. Yeah, so I would say I would. 438 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's the number eleven starter 439 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: on the offense right and even though he played a 440 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: little better down the stretch. Look, I hate referring to 441 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: PFF because then people say, well, you're just are you 442 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: parrotying what? PFF? Know, I watched the freaking end zone 443 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: copy and I watch it in earnest and and and 444 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: I and by the time I'm done, why seeing it, 445 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: my freaking forehead is like bright red because I keep 446 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: slimming my palm against my forehead because of what I 447 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: watched with the right guard there. And but just to 448 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: have a little backup on it, there was eighty five 449 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: qualifying qualifying offensive guards. Last year. He was seventy seventh 450 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: out of eighty five, and in pass blocking he was 451 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: eighty third out of eighty five. And so look and look, 452 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: you don't want me to pull up the twenty four 453 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: numbers in the twenty three because it's just as bad. 454 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's just been a solid and I think 455 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: that they they've got everything that they can get out 456 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: of him. They need an upgrade if they if you 457 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: did exactly what you did last year. And I understand 458 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Zabel was eighteenth, and there's a difference between eighteenth and 459 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: thirty second, but if their first pick was a right guard, 460 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: I would say that was you know, a. 461 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 5: Pick well spent here we were discussing earlier, the story 462 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 5: of the day, the Vegas Raider releasing Geno Smith, and 463 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 5: we were kind of reminiscing, how did we remember Geno 464 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 5: Smith and why has he taking so many swings from 465 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: former Seahawks fans from Seahawk fans, So, how do you 466 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: remember Geno as the Seahawks starter? 467 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Well, I guess my response would be, you know, he 468 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: was playing right at about the time that Jerry Depoto 469 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: stepped on the all time rake with this fifty four 470 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: percent comment, and we were all apoplectic about what that 471 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: said about, you know, accepting mediotic mediocrity, et cetera. And 472 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: Gino Smith counting his starts once once, once Russell Wilson 473 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: went to play for Denver, Geno Smith was twenty seven 474 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: and twenty three. Well, we don't even need a calculator 475 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: to know that that's hitting right at fifty four percent. 476 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: And then he was one and two and starts prior 477 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: to that, so he's under fifty four percent. And in football, 478 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot more of a sin to be media, 479 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, around five hundred. To give you an idea, 480 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: in the entire history of baseball, there's only been one 481 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: team that has won more than eighty percent of its games, 482 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: and that was in like the eighteen eighties one in history. 483 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: Last year, in twenty twenty five, there was three teams 484 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL that were over eighty percent. So we 485 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: understand the nature baseball, how the math plays out, and 486 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: what have you. So being fifty four percent winner as 487 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback is a lot worse in football than it 488 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: is to be a fifty four percent winner in baseball. 489 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: So I think that it was just kind of you know, 490 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: when I coached youth football and high school football for 491 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: twenty four seasons. You know, one phrase I said often, 492 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: as good as the enemy of great. Good allows you 493 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: to be complacent and not nag at your conscience. Oh, 494 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: everything's fine, right, And so was he a good quarterback? 495 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's fifty four percent good. I think 496 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: he was. I think he was good the first half 497 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: of the first year. And I think, you know, there 498 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: was a cognitive dissonance involved in some of our interpretations 499 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: where we made we cemented our opinion based on that 500 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: first half a season, and then we tend to ignore 501 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: the evidence that we had for the remaining uh, you know, 502 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: two and a half years. You know, if you if 503 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: you divided his three years into six parts. You know, 504 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: part number one was the best, right sure, and the 505 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: other five was just a steady decline. So I don't know. 506 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: And I think the leadership piece, you know, digging, you know, 507 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: do a little digging about what was happening behind the scenes, 508 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: and and you know, there was some there was some 509 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: leadership issues that about kind of throwing people under the bus, 510 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: not being accountable. You know. It wasn't overt yeah, but 511 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: it was it was emerging. And so yeah, I think 512 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: Yatto absolutely made the right decision. I think that's just 513 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: born ow. 514 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 515 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of context that we're missing 516 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: here with this conversation, but we don't have time to 517 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: dive into that right now. 518 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: We need to get to the stuff that really matters. 519 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: What does the air temperature do when the roof is 520 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 3: open versus closed at T Mobile Park. That's the only reason, 521 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: let's be honest, why we want you on the year 522 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: today to settle that bet that debate, hang on, we'll 523 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: get to it next on ninety three to three. kJ 524 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: in A RFM had a big debate the other day 525 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: about the Well, first of all, all of this started 526 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: because we talked about the Mariner's home record early in 527 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: the year, Julio Rodriguez gets off to a slow start. 528 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: The Mariners get off to a slow start at home 529 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 3: because it's cold. Let's face it, right, there's a marine 530 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: layer and all that stuff, and once the weather heats up, 531 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: the Mariners heat up at home. So the debate we 532 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: had yesterday, it was Jackson and me and Dick, We're 533 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: all talking on the air. When the roof is closed 534 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: at T Mobile versus the roof being open, what does 535 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: that do in your opinion, after all the extensive research 536 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: you've done studying weather patterns, what does it do to 537 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 3: the air temperature inside T Mobile Park where the roof 538 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: is open versus having the roof closed. 539 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, first of all, when I was at the 540 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: University of Washington, Look, this was not my idea for 541 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: me to be asked this question. This is your idea. 542 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: I'll give you the best phenomenal idea. 543 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: You kidding? 544 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 4: Okay. 545 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: So when I was at the University of Washington, to 546 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: satisfy a natural science elective, I took two classes in 547 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: the Department of Air, not ex I was mainly interested 548 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: in how football's flied and really in their aero dynamics, 549 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: you have what's called bluff body aerodynamics and streamlined aerodynamics. 550 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Streamlined is basically rocket and airplane wings, and bluff body 551 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: is everything else, including golf balls, baseballs and footballs and 552 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to get there everything about how 553 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: drag is measured by a Reynolds number and what have you. 554 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: But here here's some important parts about this as when 555 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: you get denser air, which is when what happens when 556 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: you get cooler higher pressure, that creates more drag and 557 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: that shortens the carry for a baseball. The temp when 558 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: the temperature is warmer, it's thinner, right, you know, about 559 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: ten degrees fair night, you can reduce a baseball by 560 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: five feet. Other aspects mean equal as far as a 561 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: humid humidity, slightly thinner air, but it's a heavier baseball, 562 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: so it's a small net effect. Now, the wind is 563 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: a big factor. Most of the wind is coming in 564 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: from Puget Sound left right. So if you have for 565 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the right handers who want to pull and get the 566 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: ball out on left field, that's going to push the 567 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: ball sideways. If you're trying to push, you know, either 568 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: push it to right field or left handed pull it 569 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: to right field. You could you know that that that 570 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: could be a benefit for you. Now, so those are 571 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: all the things in general. Now, what about what about 572 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: when the the roof closed? Because that's your big question 573 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: right here. 574 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: Yes, because we all understand what happens to a baseball, okay, 575 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: cooler versus Well, so we. 576 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: Do want to know what does the roof being closed 577 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 4: due to the air temperature? 578 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: Well, I want to I want to first preface this, 579 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: but Dick, your intuition is right that the second law 580 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: of thermo dynamics. It says that, among other things, involving 581 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: things tend to tend towards entropy, which is disorder. But 582 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: one of those is is heat flows from hot to cold. 583 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: That's just common sense. Open your door at night. If 584 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: you go long enough, everything's hen it goes out. And 585 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: and by the way, British astrophysicists Arthur Eddington said that 586 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: if a theory is found to be against the second 587 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: law of thermo dynamics, quote, I can give you no hope. 588 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: There is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation. 589 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: All right, So this is like one of the most 590 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: hardcore laws of science. But that is not applying with 591 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: what we have when we close that roof. Okay, first 592 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: of all, you're blocking the wind from the marine layer, 593 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: so the cool air is not mixing as much. You're 594 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: getting a heat trapping element from that roof. The field, 595 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: the seats, the concrete, everything, all those those those materials 596 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: they absorb heat in the day, they release it in 597 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: the evening. You're getting little micro climates underneath the roof 598 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: up where the home run balls are traveling, right to 599 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: say nothing of body heat. So so there there is 600 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: a you know, beyond the psychology of it, there is 601 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: a Yet you're gonna get a couple of degrees on average, 602 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: maybe one two, as much as three degree difference in 603 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: the building, even though if you got the sides coming in, 604 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: you're it's gonna be slightly warmer and uh and and 605 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: that could affect it as as much. About it's really 606 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: only about a foot, right, Okay, but that's a different Remember, now, 607 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: these were world class class athletes they know. Now I 608 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: hesitate to say this analogy, but I'm gonna insert it. 609 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: When I was playing for the Patriots, we played at 610 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Denver and this was like December, you know, the old 611 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: saying like hey, you're in mid season form, you kind 612 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: of you're kind of dialed in in pregame warmups. Ball 613 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: comes off my hand on a go route up the 614 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: sideline and I'm like, okay, that's money. I'm thinking that's money. 615 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: And then I kept overthrowing like three or four overthrows 616 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, that felt good. It's like a shooter, 617 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, on a free thrower, a three point shot. 618 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: You know, when it comes off of your hand, whether 619 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: or not that's money. And I'm overthrowing this and finally 620 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: I got, hey, idiot, you're at freaking elevation, no wonder 621 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: you're overthrowing it like it's that's real. Now you take 622 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: a guy like a Rod or whatever who's exponentially, you know, 623 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: a million times order better athlete than me. Those guys 624 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: they when they hit that ball, I'm assuming they they 625 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: have a good feel like, oh okay, I got that one. 626 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: I got and when they see that get pushed down. Really, 627 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: the wind is dick is the one you know to 628 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: left field. The wind could think about when you golf, 629 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: A sideways wind is going to reduce the distance right right. 630 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be in your face to reduce 631 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: the distance and and so the wind is the main 632 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: part of it. But the couple of degrees that you 633 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: get by having it warmer it does affect it, likely 634 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: inches more than feet. But you know, these guys have 635 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good feel for when they how they hit 636 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: a ball and whether it's going out, and they and 637 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: they know so. I would my conclusion is it's real. 638 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: It's not only is it psychologically real, it's scientifically real. 639 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: And for a hitter, particularly a right hand hitter who 640 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: wants to pull the ball for home runs to the left, 641 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: it's legit. 642 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: Well, that's cal Rawley's pop up palme run in Game 643 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: five that bare to clear the wall. If that roof's 644 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: open and that ball comes back six inches to a 645 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: foot and gets caught, that's a totally different ballgame in 646 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: that game five against the Blue Jays. Really well done, man, guys, 647 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: for chance together for humil and really really well done. 648 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: And we're very very proud to call you a part 649 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: of this radio station because that was insane. 650 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody can go from. 651 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: Talking about Kenny Walker to Josh Job to the air 652 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: temperature at T Mobile when the roof is open versus close. 653 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: So consider yourself blessed. 654 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: We love you, love you too, Hammeredownjo boys. 655 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 3: With us on the radio show. I was satisfied. Now 656 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: I'm satisfied at all. 657 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 5: I gotta say, honestly, when it's all said and done, 658 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 5: I think both sides of the argument were correct. 659 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: What I mean, we're touchs. 660 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 5: He just said inches rather than feet, and I degree 661 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 5: to three like I didn't think. 662 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 4: I never well, that was our entire points. 663 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 5: I never said it was zero degrees. I just just 664 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 5: said it wasn't a significant difference. Now we could debate 665 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 5: on whether one to three three degrees is a significant difference. Okay, 666 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 5: I mean you guys made it sound like it was 667 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 5: a massive question with the did you not? 668 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 3: We both said that a difference of one to three 669 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: degrees in our homes feels like a significant difference. 670 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 4: Number one, Number two. Let me ask you a question. 671 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: Do you think that a foot or six inches could 672 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: have been the difference between col Rowley's home run being 673 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 3: caught and being a home run against Toronto. 674 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: That particular home run? 675 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: Yes, But I would also say that over the course 676 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: of two months, when we're closing this roof, how many 677 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 5: home runs are we talking about? 678 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 4: I mean, who knows. 679 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if you win the division by two games 680 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: and you have three or four home runs like that, 681 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 3: that could absolutely be the difference your pitcher gives that 682 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: home run, that would have been the Only question is 683 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 3: how much more comfortable is it? 684 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: That? 685 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 3: Really it was about the comfort. That's what we talked about. 686 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 3: How much more does the temperature go up? I think 687 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: that a difference of one to three degrees makes it 688 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: feel significantly warmer because you're inside the stadium. 689 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 5: If your home is at sixty eight degrees, yes, and 690 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 5: then you put it up to seventy degrees, that feels 691 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 5: lightless different. 692 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 3: Go to a hotel room and do that. I mean, 693 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: the small space obviously, the more you can impact it. 694 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 4: So you know what I'll do. I'll come over. 695 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: Tonight and I'll just sneak into your house when you're 696 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: not watching it, and I'll adjust the thermostat and we'll 697 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: see when your balls are blue and frozen and you're 698 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: asking what the hell is going on, you'll find out 699 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 3: it's now sixty two and not sixty four,