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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And neither do I? Thanks telling someoning it up. Let's

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Speaker 1: just go home. How's that for an idea? Joe Streker,

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Speaker 1: executive producer, Internet research guru all on, great guy. Jost

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Speaker 1: Trekker produces the program. And my name is Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I am host of the fifty five KRC Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: At least for this period of time in my life.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, it's the perfect day for signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Yes please, Chiefdiji not effective leader. According to the final

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Speaker 1: report from the law firm that was hired to come

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Speaker 1: up with a reason for putting her on administrative leaf

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Speaker 1: she never had a performance review. Ever, they are praising

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Speaker 1: time when they decided not to and then play strong

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Speaker 1: administrative league. So why did we do that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Let's hire a law firm to find out. And the

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Speaker 1: report just can I ask just a sort of a

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Speaker 1: rhetorical question, because I know the answer to the question,

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Speaker 1: anybody ever have a problem with their boss? Judge, you

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Speaker 1: ever have a problem with your boss? Do you ever

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Speaker 1: think that you know what I Joe Strecker, with almost

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Speaker 1: of all trades, one of the most talented and informed

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Speaker 1: individuals in the entire cluster here for iHeartMedia, Joe's tracker. Judge,

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Speaker 1: ever think that you have maybe better ideas how to

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Speaker 1: incorrect decisions from time to time? If you were sat

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Speaker 1: and we're asked to make oh, I don't know, random

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Speaker 1: would have done differently, do you think you might have

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Speaker 1: our twould maybe a complaint or two? Looking back? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know, yes, Who in the hell else as a

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Speaker 1: you know what, if I ran this place, it would

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Speaker 1: I have problems with their management style. No, nobody's ever

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Speaker 1: done that. That's kind of the takeaway I took when

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Speaker 1: I read this confidential memorandum for the law firm that

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Speaker 1: did this. Hindsight is twenty twenty investigation in the police

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Speaker 1: work under her in command. I just know that this

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Speaker 1: looks really bad. Optically, the city could not come up

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Speaker 1: And what kind of optics is it when you hire

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Speaker 1: with the with a retroactive reason for firing. And that's

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Speaker 1: what you got here. Signal ninety nine is going to

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Speaker 1: join the programs at six point thirty. She had a

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Speaker 1: very lengthy response. In addition, should be talking about the

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Speaker 1: thirty million dollar hole and the fact that the City

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Speaker 1: Police Department any year where they're negotiating the union contracts

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Speaker 1: Does anybody feel like the police should be cut at

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Speaker 1: Let's leave the police department alone, right now. That's tough enough,

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Speaker 1: since there one hundred officers short, and that number is

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Speaker 1: growing every single day. See FOP President Ken Kobra and

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Speaker 1: I'll never have to deal with her again. That's certainly possible,

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Speaker 1: Believe they think they thought. It's just there's nothing concrete

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Speaker 1: the idea that the witnesses were comparing interim Chief Henny's

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Speaker 1: You know, you can like the next boss better than

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Speaker 1: They interviewed Thiji. They expressed her beliefs in this report

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati, Christopher smithmans vented his spleen on

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Speaker 1: We need tougher judges. See that's a message to the

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Speaker 1: there's one thing after another. But witnesses believed, witnesses thought,

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Speaker 6: I probably deserve it or you know all not. No, no, hey,

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Speaker 6: I wanted to build on your your your your introduction

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Speaker 6: there about the Alex Stravinsky trial and the beat down, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: It getting thrown out.

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Speaker 6: I just did a quick search on FBI Hate Crimes Unit,

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Speaker 6: and this is what pops up. It says hate crimes

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Speaker 6: are the highest priority of the FBI Civil Rights Program

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Speaker 6: because of the devastating impact they have on families and

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Speaker 6: communities and it goes on from there. Now, I'm not

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Speaker 6: a fan of hate crimes. I think crime is crime.

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Speaker 1: Crime is crime. I agree with you completely.

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Speaker 6: But since it's on the books and the FBI will

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Speaker 6: insert themselves to stick the knows and you know, any

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Speaker 6: minor fender bender that that happens anywhere, it seems like anymore.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And there is a FBI office down in Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 6: you know, the overwhelming evidence that the people doing the

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Speaker 6: beating and the people getting beaten the the it was

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Speaker 6: statistically significant off the chart that the only difference was

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Speaker 6: the color of the skin. And comments that happened before

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Speaker 6: the beatdown were like, you don't belong here.

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Speaker 2: The lack of action.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Ladies and gentlemen of the FBI Cincinnati office, if

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Speaker 6: you happen to be listening, why don't you just.

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Speaker 2: Codify what this really is? That that's that.

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Speaker 6: Hate crimes are are are one way it seems like

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Speaker 6: because it would if it's on the books. And if

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Speaker 6: you guys like to get involved in all this stuff,

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Speaker 6: where are you and do you have anything to say?

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Speaker 6: Or we're just going to keep our heads down and

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Speaker 6: mouth shut because this doesn't fit.

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Speaker 2: The narrative or or or why don't we just rewrite

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Speaker 2: the law all together.

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Speaker 6: And when it's when it's when it's white on when

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Speaker 6: with white people are the perpetrator then to hate crime.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise we just keep our mouths shut. So that's what

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Speaker 2: that is. We'll be honest and enough to say so.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can't say that out loud because it will

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Speaker 1: be an unconstitutional application of race in connection with crime.

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Speaker 1: So you can throw that theory out. And then there's

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Speaker 1: the whole concept of quote unquote prosecutorial discretion. Just because

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Speaker 1: there's a law in the books doesn't mean that law

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Speaker 1: enforcement has to enforce it. This is the idea that

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Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a concept that is going

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Speaker 1: on forever. It's like federal marijuana laws. They quit enforcing

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Speaker 1: the federal Schedule one ban years ago. They just ignore it.

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Speaker 1: It's still on the books. They could take you to court,

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Speaker 1: federal big boy court for possessing weed, but they choose

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Speaker 1: not to do it. The world's moved on and gotten

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Speaker 1: away from it. So new administration, new sheriff in town,

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Speaker 1: they may choose to enforce that as it relates to

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Speaker 1: maybe racially motivated white on black or black on white.

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Speaker 1: But they don't have to. So I think you're stuck

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Speaker 1: in the quagmar. But you make a great point. This

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Speaker 1: is the reason I think hate crimes are ridiculous. If

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Speaker 1: you beat someone up, I think the beating in and

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Speaker 1: of itself evidences you probably hate that person, or at

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Speaker 1: least have a strong dislike for him. There's it. Did

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Speaker 1: you commit a crime, Yes, you beat them up. Is

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Speaker 1: it necessary to describe a specific or particular motive for it?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: So prosecute them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all there is to you know, watch it

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Speaker 1: because because when you don't prosecute, like in this particular case,

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Speaker 1: it raises red flags that might cost someone like Jay

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Speaker 1: to point it out right, Jay.

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Speaker 2: Yet, exactly right.

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Speaker 6: And in any conclusion, don't vote Democrat and more importantly,

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Speaker 6: don't vote Rhino. And as we get into this primary,

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Speaker 6: read the names of the Blue twenty two and let's

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Speaker 6: get that name recognition out there and help.

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Speaker 2: Them not get re elected.

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Speaker 1: You got it. Thanks for everything, Brian, appreciate it. Jay.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for holding on over the brake there since I

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Speaker 1: didn't see your name up there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we will be talking about the election. Sherry Poland

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Speaker 1: from the Bard of Election is going to join the

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Speaker 1: program at eight too of five to talk about the

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Speaker 1: polling locations redistricting changes from May fifth primary election. So

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Speaker 1: that's coming up along with jud Jennen of Paul Tonne.

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Speaker 1: That's in the eight o'clock hour, preceded by Steve Belzer

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Speaker 1: from the Cameron County Veteran Services, Donovan and EO for

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Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity about early voting. Good time you can

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Speaker 1: bring that topic up. Jay Dave Williams, the taxpayer of

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Speaker 1: a text alliance on a whole bunch of topics, and

516
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Speaker 1: I have to ask him about the DC street car

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Speaker 1: getting shut down and yes, Signal ninety nine coming up

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Speaker 1: at six thirty. Great show lined up, Thank you Joe

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00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: Strecker and a great product for you to get Odor

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Speaker 1: Exit od O r I fifty five KCD talk station Stack.

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Speaker 1: Oh stupid Joe Strecker's calling a Barber streissend flag on

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Speaker 1: this one. He doesn't believe it. Widely reported A Daily

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Speaker 1: Mail reported that Christy Nomes husband was leading a secret

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Speaker 1: life of adult role play and apparently there is a

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Speaker 1: flag for this one Byron or Brian Nomes b r

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Speaker 1: Y n They say his fetish appears to be what

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Speaker 1: is known as bimbo fication. Never heard of it before,

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Speaker 1: but apparently it's wildly popular, at least in the aftermath

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Speaker 1: of the Daily Mail article talking about bimbo fication. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it means turning yourself into the most hyper feminine, barbie

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Speaker 1: like version of yourself. So picture yourself men with a giant,

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Speaker 1: giant like quadruple de faux breasts on your chest. You

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Speaker 1: can add a little makeup and wear panties too if

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Speaker 1: you want. Anyway, I love this article from the New

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Speaker 1: York Post. Men are also now embracing the cank, although

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Speaker 1: it's women who are typically the ones that are hyper

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Speaker 1: sexualizing themselves. Men often wearing fake breast or temporary feminine

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Speaker 1: enhancements to feel as ladylike as possible. Now there are

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Speaker 1: photographs circulating around purported to be Byron Noam, Christy Noam's

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Speaker 1: wife or a husband wife. Is that a Freudian slip,

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Speaker 1: so believe it if you want. The article is hilarious.

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Speaker 1: How is bimbo fication different than cross dressing? The immediate

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Speaker 1: response in your post think of bimbo fication as cross

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Speaker 1: dressing on steroids. Okay, let's about gender identity, more about

545
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Speaker 1: playing a role and exploring sexuality or self expression online? Yeah? Whatever,

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Speaker 1: Where do men get into bimblification? Where do they gather?

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00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: They asked the grehetorical question porn hub. Pornhub searches show

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00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: these communities are far from niche. Again, I think they

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Speaker 1: have a flag. Porn sites apparently let creators monetize content.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Joe, would you actually pay to see some

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Speaker 1: other guy wear fake breast online?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I know the answer to that question. Why do you

554
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Speaker 1: keep bringing papus up when we ask questions like this?

555
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: You think he would drew pappas? Would you pay for

556
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Speaker 1: content like this? If you're out there anyway? Byron Brian

557
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: Noham allegedly sent thousands of bimboification videos. Sports from The

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail revealed that mister Ice Barbie, I guess that's

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Speaker 1: what he went by, allegedly spend over twenty five thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars messaging sex workers who specialize in bimbification. If you

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Speaker 1: cross dress, are you automatically transgender or queer? They answered

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Speaker 1: that question. So I'll let you go to the New

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Speaker 1: York Post and work your way through all the answers

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Speaker 1: to those questions, maybe even order a flag. Go to

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Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Indiana, where a man's been accused of leude

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Speaker 1: conduct at a hobby lobby. His name David Sewell, charged

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Speaker 1: with misdemeanor publican decency because he apparently exposed and pleasured

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Speaker 1: himself in front of a hobby lobby.

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Speaker 6: Employee would get delivered that's nalty, so we could get

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Speaker 6: int the penalty box all by himself.

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Speaker 1: Employee identified Sewell during a photoway a lineup. They had

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Speaker 1: video camera of this guy going in various locations and

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Speaker 1: I guess doing the same thing anyway. During the interview,

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Speaker 1: police said that this man came into the store of

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Speaker 1: the day of the incident and followed her for about

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Speaker 1: four hours then and began exposing himself in front of

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Speaker 1: her while she was in one of the aisles at

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Speaker 1: the hobby lobby and that's when she turned when she

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Speaker 1: got when she turned away, he ran out of the store.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he had a thing for hobby lobbies. We stayed

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Speaker 1: in Indiana. We got Evansville for this. One man in

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Speaker 1: Indiana accused of stealing a bud light truck, leading authorities

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Speaker 1: on a chase. It's forty one year old Randall Baker

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Speaker 1: stole the truck three in the afternoon from a liquor store.

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Speaker 1: He refused to pull over, led police on a chase.

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Speaker 1: Deputy use stop sticks to try and stop the truck.

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Speaker 1: They say that was when Baker uhh hit the Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: patrol vehicle and crashed into a field. Pressly said Baker

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Speaker 1: refused to get out of the truck. Deputy said he

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Speaker 1: use a pepper ball rounds to get him out. Taken

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Speaker 1: to the hospital for minor injuries from the crash. As

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Speaker 1: opposed to the pepperballs, Thorty say his blood alcohol content

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Speaker 1: was point one zero three, just a little bit over

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Speaker 1: the legal limit. Fortunately, the deputy whose car was hit

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Speaker 1: was not hurt. Now facing charges of attempted murder, auto theft,

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Speaker 1: criminal recklessness with a deadly weapon, resisting law enforcement, reckless

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Speaker 1: operation of a tractor trailer, and of course driving well

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Speaker 1: intoxicated idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. Point one zero three is that drunk enough

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Speaker 1: to do something so stupid as to steal an entire

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Speaker 1: beer truck? Apparently stick around signal ninety nine, coming up

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Speaker 1: with a six thirty Her analysis of the well Police

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Speaker 1: Chief Fiji report. The hindsight is twenty twenty report, and

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Speaker 1: of course the city debt impacting the police department. Signal

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Speaker 1: on the talk station say six to eighty five kr

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Speaker 1: CD talk station. By the time I was switching everyone

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Speaker 1: a very happy Wednesday and invitation to the Liberty Collective.

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Speaker 1: They're fired up about listener launch coming there today. So

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Speaker 1: thanks to Liberty Collective for agreeing to have us there,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you can make it. Bring a friend,

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Speaker 1: have some fun, get some of the great food there

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Speaker 1: from the five different restaurants under one umbrella, and massive

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Speaker 1: quantities of beer with the wall o beer. I just

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Speaker 1: the idea of thirty self served beers on the wall again.

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Speaker 1: Interested in seeing that one coming up bottom of this hour,

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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine returns to talk about the Chief Thiji report.

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Speaker 1: I went on a tear about that. You know, opinions

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Speaker 1: are like sphincter's. Everybody's got one. And when you take

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Speaker 1: thirty two officers from a contingent of roughly seven hundred

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Speaker 1: or so and you ask them for their opinions, with

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Speaker 1: the use of twenty twenty hindsight, well you can come

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Speaker 1: up with a negative report about police chief Diji's opera

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Speaker 1: a management style, and that's exactly what happened, including the

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Speaker 1: conclusion that well she can't be police chief again, boiling

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Speaker 1: it down to its embarrassed elements. So signal ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: multiple page analysis of that quite the spleen vent signal,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to heaving her on the program bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour to break it all down for us, including

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Speaker 1: the idea of cutting money from the Cincine Police Department.

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Speaker 1: We've coord We talked with ken Kober here in the

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Speaker 1: Morning show a couple of days ago FOP President Ken

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Speaker 1: Kober responding to the proposed six point five million dollar

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Speaker 1: cut to the police department. Dave Williams taxpayer protection line,

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Speaker 1: Dave Williams, FDA costs are soaring. He'll be on at

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Speaker 1: seven oh five talk about that, along with permanent quote

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Speaker 1: unquote pilot programs. That sounds uniquely government, doesn't it. Pilot

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Speaker 1: program it's going to be permanent, will always fund it.

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Speaker 1: Sports betting and local taxes three subjects with Dave Williams,

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Speaker 1: And of course got to have a comment about the

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Speaker 1: DC streetcar closing down for good, providing us with a

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Speaker 1: great illustration of what we could do in the City

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati to show up our budget problems. Yeah, let's quit

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Speaker 1: paying for the street car to run since very few

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Speaker 1: people run it and it doesn't really bring about any

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Speaker 1: any pluses for the city. Ah my thoughts and comments,

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Speaker 1: of course, I'm entitled to them. They're like sphincters. Donald

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Speaker 1: idea and a solution to the problem. Steve Gooden yesterday

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Speaker 1: our legal expert on the city's twenty nine million dollar

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Speaker 1: budget deficit. He's not only our legal expert, he was

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Speaker 1: a former councilman, so he's got some insight into that.

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Speaker 1: And then of course I mentioned FOP President can cover there.

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Speaker 1: It is on these six point six million dollar CPD

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Speaker 1: cut that they are facing over too or ask you

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Speaker 1: a question, is it worth being in NATO. I know

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Speaker 1: this concerns a lot of people. Oh my god, Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's going to ruin a relationship with all the NATO countries.

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Speaker 1: And of course some of the things he says might

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Speaker 1: suggest that maybe that's the point of it. When we

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Speaker 1: go back to his demands of the NATO countries pony

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Speaker 1: of at least five percent of the gross domestic product

687
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Speaker 1: because for years and decades, I might point out, they've

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Speaker 1: just let their militaries go by the wayside. Why because

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Speaker 1: we're there trillions of dollars we have paid to build

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Speaker 1: military bases just basically to provide the police force for

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Speaker 1: the NATO countries while they go about their merry socialist ways,

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Speaker 1: pursuing green energy policies, open borders, watering down cultures, all

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Speaker 1: that's going on in the European You gotta wonder, Wait

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Speaker 1: a second, if we started from scratch and we started

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Speaker 1: entering into relationships with countries who we play nicely with,

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Speaker 1: and we are willing to provide a defense mutual defense.

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Speaker 1: We'll play nicely with you. You defend us if we

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Speaker 1: get attacked, and we'll defend you if you get attacked.

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Speaker 1: We all plan together for our mutual defense. Well that's

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Speaker 1: all well and good, but would you enter into that

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Speaker 1: relationship with the NATO countries now if that relationship never

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Speaker 1: existed before? Ask yourself this question. Well, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: what do they provide to us? We've got the world's

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Speaker 1: biggest military and it costs US gazillions of dollars annually.

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Speaker 1: This spent expense week, it's like what a trillion dollars

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Speaker 1: a year defense spending and they're asking for more every

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Speaker 1: single year. Well, a lot of that money goes to

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Speaker 1: defending the NATO countries. Are we prepared to continue to

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Speaker 1: spend that we would we be willing to enter into

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Speaker 1: a new negotiation or a new contract with them, effectively

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Speaker 1: that would provide that level of defense with the understanding

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Speaker 1: that they couldn't provide a reciprocal defense to us. That'll

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Speaker 1: be a completely one way street, now, wouldn't it. Well

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Speaker 1: that's where we are now. If we ended our mutual

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Speaker 1: defense obligations, the world will still go around, and we'd

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Speaker 1: still trade with them. There's a lot of countries in

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Speaker 1: this world we have trade agreements with, we actually trade

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Speaker 1: with that we don't have a mutual defense obligation for

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Speaker 1: why did that show up in the first place. Of

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Speaker 1: course the Soviet Union. Now does Russia represent a Soviet

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Speaker 1: style threat to the European Union? I think they think so,

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Speaker 1: whether or not we do. Whether or not, it's in

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Speaker 1: our best interest to enter into a defense agreement with

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Speaker 1: them when they can't defend us in times of need,

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Speaker 1: which is basically what the United States, or Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and Marco Ruby your claiming right now. Listen here, we

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Speaker 1: are in a time of need, and you guys won't

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Speaker 1: do anything. In fact, you're not even helping us. You're

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Speaker 1: refusing US airspace Spain. We said just yesterday the president

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Speaker 1: in our country, Rubio did. We'll have to re examine

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Speaker 1: all of this after this operation is over. But one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why NATO is beneficial to the United

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Speaker 1: States is that it gives us basing rights for contingencies.

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Speaker 1: It allows us to station troops, aircraft, weapons, and parts

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Speaker 1: of the world that we wouldn't normally have bases, and

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Speaker 1: that includes much of Europe. And to see that in

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Speaker 1: a time of need, the United States has identified a

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Speaker 1: grave risk to our national security and our national interests,

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Speaker 1: and we needed to conduct this operation, and we have

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Speaker 1: countries like Spain, a NATO member that we are pledged

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Speaker 1: to defend, denying us the use of their airspace and

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Speaker 1: bragging about it, denying us the use of their bases,

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Speaker 1: and there are other countries that have done this as well.

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Speaker 1: So you have to ask yourself, well, what's in it

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Speaker 1: for the United States? Legitimate questions now, is it beneficial

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Speaker 1: for us to have the bases there? Going to the

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Speaker 1: point that Rubia made, yes, because it allows us the

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Speaker 1: station troops there and then use those as a springboard

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Speaker 1: to go on military adventures that we think are the

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Speaker 1: right thing to do, like bombing the Iranians. That benefit

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Speaker 1: is eradicated if the host country doesn't let us use

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Speaker 1: the base effectively, So what's the point? And it's not

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Speaker 1: just Spain Also Switzerland and Italy as well as France

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Speaker 1: have also sort of taken this approach, although softer than

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Speaker 1: Spain's out loud hell no approach. Again, more and more

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Speaker 1: of these NATO countries with whom we have a mutual

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Speaker 1: defense agreement are saying basically, we're not there to support you.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, one of the motives for your

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Speaker 1: providing this mutual defense agreement, we're taking away from you,

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Speaker 1: you can use the base. I don't know how this

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Speaker 1: unfolds look going forward, but I do understand the point

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Speaker 1: that's being made, and I certainly appreciate that there might

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Speaker 1: be some nervous people in the world, like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the status quo is being interrupted. Oh my god, We've

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Speaker 1: had these long standing relationships since post World War Two.

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Speaker 1: You're going to interrupt that. What's going to happen to us? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the point of even this discussion nothing. We're

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Speaker 1: not losing really anything by getting out of a mutual

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Speaker 1: defense agreement because the reciprocal benefit isn't there. It's worth

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Speaker 1: talking about anyway. Six point fifteen fifty five KR see

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Speaker 1: the talk station five point three seven four nine fifty

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Speaker 1: five hundred day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about, you know, this Middle East shift.

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Speaker 1: We've got military bases all over the Middle East. If

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Speaker 1: you look at maps of the bases that we have

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Speaker 1: that are in the general Middle East area, they're all

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Speaker 1: over the place. They're being bombed, of course, that's how

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Speaker 1: you have a map of them. Look, the Iranians hit

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Speaker 1: this particular base. We've got bases in Saudi Arabia, for example.

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Speaker 1: Is that the new NATO kind of focus. So we

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Speaker 1: lose if we got out of NATO and we lose

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Speaker 1: this sort of strategic advantage of having bases within NATO

784
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Speaker 1: countries that are in close proximity to Again, remember the

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Speaker 1: old Soviet Union, We needed our stuff there. Modern times,

786
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Speaker 1: we've got modern weapons, we've got hypersonic missiles. We also

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Speaker 1: have a growing number of military bases that might even

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Speaker 1: be a better location to deal with the existential threats

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Speaker 1: that we think we face China and Russia and of

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Speaker 1: course state sponsors of terrorism like Iran. So you got

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Speaker 1: real close proximity to those countries. So if you lose

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Speaker 1: NATO and the bases there, of course that saves us, Yes,

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars. Moraine, You're right, it would save us

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars. You just shift the focus to the

795
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Speaker 1: Middle East area. Donald Trump laid the groundwork for that.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Abraham words of course, that assured these

797
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Speaker 1: Middle East countries playing nicely together. It looked like that

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Speaker 1: was going to get some steam and maybe more countries

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Speaker 1: will join in. In the aftermath of US bombing the Iranians,

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Speaker 1: many of the Arab nations there have all stepped up

801
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Speaker 1: to the plate saying, yeah, we need to get rid

802
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Speaker 1: of this Iranian threat. Doctor United Arab Emirates about it.

803
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Speaker 1: They're all in favor of going boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: They don't like the Iranians ruining the party. So maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a new focus there. I don't know, just speculating

806
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Speaker 1: at this juncture, but I certainly see the reason for

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Speaker 1: Trump's criticism of our former well quote unquote allies. Let's

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Speaker 1: see what CJ's got. Hey, CJ, thanks for calling this morning.

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Oh good morning to you as well. And you know,

811
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Speaker 3: one thing that is certain in life, change is always

812
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Speaker 3: going to happen. And those who are unwilling to change,

813
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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's adapt or die is as it

814
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Speaker 3: has been commonly known over the.

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Speaker 2: Last number of years.

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Speaker 3: And the reality is is that the European nations are weak.

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Speaker 2: They just are.

818
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Speaker 3: They give into everything, they don't they don't stand up

819
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Speaker 3: for themselves.

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Speaker 2: We pay for their health care.

821
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Speaker 3: Their free healthcare comes from the fact that we have

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Speaker 3: bases all over Europe, and Spain is just totally gone

823
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Speaker 3: into I don't even know what. And I would tell

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Speaker 3: you something if you look at our allies who are

825
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Speaker 3: the who stand behind us the most right now. It

826
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Speaker 3: is the Eastern Europeans such as Poland and Czechoslovakia. It

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Speaker 3: is also the Japanese. There is no other country on

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Speaker 3: the face of this earth that is a better friend

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Speaker 3: to America right now than the Japanese. They embrace our culture,

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Speaker 3: they love us, and they are a part of where

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Speaker 3: we're at.

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Speaker 1: And their defense too. They're also growing their military and

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Speaker 1: building their defense.

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Speaker 3: Exactly without us pushing them. They're wanting to do this

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Speaker 3: on their own. And then the other one is And

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much I trust the Saudi Kingdom

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Speaker 3: or I trust the UAE in Bahrain and Oman, but

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Speaker 3: I will tell you they have been far more.

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Speaker 2: Understanding and wanting to help.

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Speaker 3: Us and do the things that we want than anybody

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Speaker 3: else in.

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Speaker 2: This world right now.

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Speaker 3: And we have to understand that our friends today may

844
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Speaker 3: not be our friends tomorrow. And what is happening in

845
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Speaker 3: the Middle East right now is those countries understand what

846
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Speaker 3: the power of Iran has been and giving away a

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Speaker 3: bunch of free oil to China, a bunch of free

848
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Speaker 3: weapons to Russia. And if you want to end Russia Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: you destroy Iran. If you want to prevent China from

850
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Speaker 3: going into Taiwan. You take out Maduro, you take out Iran,

851
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Speaker 3: and this world will be completely different. And it also

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Speaker 3: should tell you something that the UAE will not even

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Speaker 3: send their children anymore to England to be educated because

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Speaker 3: they're scared they're going to come back as radical Muslims.

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Speaker 5: What world are we transports to?

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Speaker 3: Different universe or something along those line has completely changed it.

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Speaker 3: If we're not willing to embrace it, we are willing

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Speaker 3: to collapse.

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Speaker 1: You know, points all well made, all well made. And

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Speaker 1: you know if we could wave our magic wand that

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Speaker 1: we bring about an end of this Irodian situation, they

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Speaker 1: would be wiped out. The straight of horror moves be

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Speaker 1: wide open, and that would benefit who European Union, right,

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Speaker 1: that's his job. Donald trust point the other day one

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Speaker 1: guess European Union doesn't have its own oil, So go

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Speaker 1: get your own damn oil. You have set yourself up

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Speaker 1: in the European Union to be reliant on the straight

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Speaker 1: you green energy folks. Isn't that so nefarious that in

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Speaker 1: them themselves in a position of absolute peril that a

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Speaker 1: stranglehold the European Union basically or at least a lot

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Speaker 1: of our NATO allies. They did that to themselves. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: all the above strategy that it was embraced by Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump in his first term and of course in his

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Speaker 1: second term, the idea that capitalism and those evil capitalists

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Speaker 1: out there have unlocked a world and a wealth of

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Speaker 1: natural gas and oil that nobody knew was even in

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Speaker 1: the ground fracking on private land. We don't need no

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Speaker 1: government approval. We are a net exporter of oil. And

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Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when we had peak oil

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Speaker 1: and we were all gonna die because it was going

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Speaker 1: to run out. Huh, technology to the rescue. That same

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Speaker 1: thing saw the global population problem. We're all going to

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Speaker 1: starve to death, was the mantra from back in the

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Speaker 1: late sixties and early seventies. Oh my god, we're all

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Speaker 1: going to starve to death. Now technology came to the

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Speaker 1: rescue different farming techniques, fertilizers. It's amazing what technology can do.

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Speaker 1: We do not live in a static world. Six twenty

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Speaker 1: six to fifty five KR City Talk Station. Back to

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Speaker 1: happy as I can be and timing could not be better.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five CARSSE Morning Show Signal

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, which I strongly encourage you, like the thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand plus folks who already do follow her on Facebook

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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine, you'll find it and that's where you

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Speaker 1: find all the information. It's become the go to source

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Speaker 1: for inside information about shady stuff that goes on in downtown.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to signal ninety nine. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: on this morning. Good morning, real quick, I understand you

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Speaker 1: found Waldo. You've been having to go at aftab Perval

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Speaker 1: who has been missing in action, didn't even bother showing

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Speaker 1: up at Opening day parade, and yet where was he?

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Speaker 1: Just the other day popped his head out of his

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Speaker 1: hole in the ground Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Well, he was raising the transgender flag for the city,

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Speaker 5: of course he was.

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Speaker 1: Well, that reflects his priorities, and now we can dive

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Speaker 1: on into his priorities, which include the placing police Chief

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Speaker 1: Fiji on administrative leave and then going back and hiring

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Speaker 1: a law firm to figure out a reason why she

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Speaker 1: was placed on administrative leave. That report just came out,

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Speaker 1: described as a confidential memorandum from FBT Gibbons LLP, and

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Speaker 1: they basically decided to go, well, how many people did

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Speaker 1: they interview to do this report? Signal ninety nine. How

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Speaker 1: many first off total officers are there? There's roughly seven

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Speaker 1: hundred or so, since a police officers.

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Speaker 5: Now there's more than that, okay, But more importantly, they

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Speaker 5: interviewed people that wanted to be interviewed right, came forward

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Speaker 5: to interviewed. And the whole thing is farcical. That is

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Speaker 5: not their report, that's just their summary. So we're never

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Speaker 5: going to see their actual report. I highly doubt we'll

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Speaker 5: ever see who actually sat down and interviewed with these

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Speaker 5: people gave their names and then getting through you know,

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Speaker 5: Chief Fiji under the bus while at the same time

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Speaker 5: holding up interim chief Henny, how great everything is now

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Speaker 5: that he's there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yes, I found tremendous fault with that, because you know,

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Speaker 1: the the idea that she was placed on administratively relates

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Speaker 1: to her conduct, while the operating is since I policed

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Speaker 1: chief for the one year that she was in that role,

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Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with whether someone out in

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Speaker 1: the world might have been a better chief. We can

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Speaker 1: all make arguments over who's better and who's not. And

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Speaker 1: the point I was making with regard to the total

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Speaker 1: contingent of police officers in the hundreds, let's say eight

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Speaker 1: hundred roughly or whatever, they only talked to a very

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Speaker 1: small percentage of them, roughly thirty or thirty two. They

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Speaker 1: said they started with forty two witnesses, but not all

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Speaker 1: of them wanted to talk to them. Some declined to

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Speaker 1: participate or respond. So, going to your point, which is

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Speaker 1: my point, we all have opinions about our bosses. Who

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Speaker 1: among us hasn't criticized management when working in any organization,

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Speaker 1: we all have better ideas.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and not only that, if they truly wanted to

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Speaker 5: be transparent, Okay, why didn't they just send out a

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Speaker 5: survey to every CPD officer, every member of the rank

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Speaker 5: and file that they could have completed anonymously and submitted

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Speaker 5: their thoughts and their feelings about Chief DG's leadership. Why

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Speaker 5: didn't they do that? I mean, we paid them enough money.

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Speaker 5: They could have certainly done a survey monkey sure so.

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Speaker 5: But my favorite thing, and that Barcacle report, is them

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Speaker 5: saying that she couldn't she was unwilling to accept the

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Speaker 5: help from the state because of the collaborative agreement that

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Speaker 5: makes that. I actually laughed out loud at that. And

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Speaker 5: then Cheryl Long's email to the rank and file, I

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Speaker 5: laughed at that. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: It's not funny at all. But the lengths that they

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Speaker 5: went to to try to legitimize getting rid of her,

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Speaker 5: it's ridiculous. I mean, it is shameful.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's pause, We're bring Signal ninety nine back. Talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the details in this as well as

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Speaker 1: her reaction to the proposed budget.

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Speaker 7: See the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Six nine thirty on KCDY Talk Station. Bryan Timas was

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Speaker 1: a Signal ninety nine and go to Facebook and find her,

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Speaker 1: and you should. You can read her entire breakdown and

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Speaker 1: analysis of the summary report as she emphasized this memorandum

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Speaker 1: from the law firm that was looking into the reasons

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Speaker 1: why police Chief thes you might have been placed on

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Speaker 1: administrative leaf since the city didn't have one, and in

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Speaker 1: astute observation, you made signal ninety nine. You point out

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Speaker 1: right here, over thirty five years of exemplary service to

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Speaker 1: the CPD, she has a you got a historical law

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Speaker 1: enforcement career, pristine personnel file, no documentation, a documentation of

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Speaker 1: any type of disciplinary action against her, perfect evaluations, never

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Speaker 1: had a single evaluation as a chieved. So no, not

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Speaker 1: even an opportunity to bring this stuff to the extent

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Speaker 1: there is anything there to her attention. They let her

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Speaker 1: go and the mayor praised her, touted her several times,

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Speaker 1: and that she's doing a great job. I mean nothing,

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Speaker 1: but everything's fine up until the moment in time she's

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Speaker 1: put on administrative leaf. Chief Thesy, what is going on

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Speaker 1: with this one? What's the politics behind this?

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Speaker 5: Well, the politics are she was sacrificed to save the

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Speaker 5: mayor and city council's re election. Did It's just that simple.

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Speaker 5: They claim that he failed to control the violence because

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Speaker 5: of what they call the brawl downtown last July. But

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Speaker 5: you know what, the interim chief failed to control the

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Speaker 5: violence on opening day. True, And I'm not trying to

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to take a slam at interim chief, Henny. No,

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that these things happen. And let me tell

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Speaker 5: you what, not a single juvenile was arrested on opening day,

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Speaker 5: not one.

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Speaker 1: I thought we had a problem with juvenile crime in

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Well, we have a huge problem with juveniles.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that has something to do they don't

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Speaker 1: prosecute them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, cutting the CPD by almost seven million dollars, It's

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Speaker 5: not going to happen, Brian, I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 5: right now, there's no way it's going to happen, especially

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Speaker 5: with us rolling up in the summer.

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Speaker 1: Well, looking at the role of police chief and what

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Speaker 1: the chief is capable of doing and not capable of doing,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody can blame a police chief

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Speaker 1: for unruly behavior basically a violence outbreak. And along the

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Speaker 1: lines of what we saw last summer which led to

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Speaker 1: her being placed on administrative leave, what are they arguing

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Speaker 1: she should have done ahead of time that would have

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Speaker 1: maybe made that whole ridiculous crime thing disappear and not happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what could the chief have done?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know it all comes down to this. The

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Speaker 5: mayor platformed on defunding the police. Okay, we all know

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Speaker 5: that it's not a secret, and that's exactly what he did.

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Speaker 5: You have a bunch of community responders now, but we

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Speaker 5: don't have enough police officers. The mayor also, when he

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Speaker 5: was Clerk of courts, told a bunch of democratic judges

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Speaker 5: in a judicial meeting that they would lower bail or

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Speaker 5: no bail and softball sentencing on crime or he have

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Speaker 5: been primary. So when in the report when it says

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Speaker 5: Chief DG wanted the mayor to go to the judges

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Speaker 5: right and how fix the judicial issue, that was a

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Speaker 5: very real ask of her because he's the one that

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Speaker 5: created it. Well, he created the judicial failure that we

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Speaker 5: have right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that is in this sort of summary report. First,

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Speaker 1: Chief DG believed the mayor should intervene with local courts

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Speaker 1: to address sentencing for property crimes repeat offenders. Now I

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Speaker 1: read that, and if she suggested that, I know and

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Speaker 1: everybody with a measure of sanity or a couple of point.

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Speaker 1: IQ knows that the mayor can't force a judge during

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Speaker 1: sentencing to do anything specific. That's just the judge's sole purview.

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Speaker 1: But he could suggest out loud in a public forum,

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Speaker 1: using his bully pulpit, that judges need to be harder

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Speaker 1: on crime, they need to deal with juvenile crime, they

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Speaker 1: need to issue sentences or higher bonds, whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be, treat criminals like criminals, and serve as a

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Speaker 1: message to the rest of the would be criminal public

1048
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Speaker 1: that you're going to get caught and you're going to

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Speaker 1: be prosecuted the full extent of the law. That is messaging.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't do that, I guess, because it flies in

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Speaker 1: the face of what he actually wants, which is soft

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Speaker 1: on crime judges, right, correct.

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Speaker 5: But he did just do that when we had the

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Speaker 5: mass shooting down at Riverfront Live. He did come out

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Speaker 5: and say, oh, this is preposterous, you know, blah blah

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Speaker 5: blah blah blah judges blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 5: send poor good Betty. Well do you believe everything?

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Speaker 1: Day late and a dollar short. Had he gotten ahead

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Speaker 1: of this issue earlier on, he would have had a

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Speaker 1: record to stand on that he was interested in judges

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Speaker 1: meeting out harsher sentences. I suppose, so, oh, he's going to.

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Speaker 5: Go down as the worst mayor in the history of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: I mean, well, I think I think he's already won that.

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Speaker 5: But that's just me. I'm a little bias.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, though, let us go compare that comment to

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Speaker 1: this report. You have hundreds and hundreds of police officers.

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Speaker 1: You take take about thirty of them from the largest

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Speaker 1: from the larger pool, they're going to come up with

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Speaker 1: a conclusion. You have hundreds of thousands of residents of

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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, who, if polled, might render the

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Speaker 1: same conclusion as you did. But if you hand pick

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Speaker 1: a small segment of the population, maybe the followers of

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Speaker 1: iris Roli, they're going to sing the praises of aftab Pervoll.

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Speaker 1: Maybe those in the LGBT community who were there for

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Speaker 1: the unfurling of the transgender flag by Mayor Aftab Pervoll,

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Speaker 1: they're going to sing his praises Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Exactly. You know, it's all cherry pick. It's blowney, Okay,

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Speaker 5: it's the whole thing is ridiculous. It is I am

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Speaker 5: embarrassed for this city that we spend almost fifty thousand

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Speaker 5: dollars on this BS investigation of cherry picked people who

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Speaker 5: had an act to grind against cig to throw it

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Speaker 5: right under the bus. Come on, put your money where

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Speaker 5: your mouth is. Released the entire investigation. Let us see it.

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Speaker 1: I think given that the report concludes that police Chief

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Speaker 1: Thiji shouldn't come back to the job, they will be

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Speaker 1: putting their money where their mouth is when she sues

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Speaker 1: them for presumably wrongful termination or loss of employment, loss

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Speaker 1: of reputation, everything. We're going to continue with signal ninety

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Speaker 1: nine because there is a connection between the dismissal of

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Speaker 1: the case against Alex Stravinsky and this whole report. Station

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Speaker 1: it is six forty nine. If you got Kercut talk

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Speaker 1: Station Broyd, the time was signal ninety nine breaking down

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Speaker 1: the summary report we received Ondiji's dismissal. I call it

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Speaker 1: dismissal administrative lead placement. Obviously you have a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: I did too. It's all very subjective. Just a small

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Speaker 1: number of people made the ultimately determine the fate of

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Speaker 1: police chief THEGI. In so far as the conclusions from

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Speaker 1: this law firm but one of the things that's involved

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Speaker 1: in this the dismissal of the Alex Stravinsky case. The

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Speaker 1: man who slapped one of the brawlers in that downtown

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Speaker 1: brawl last year just slapped him because basically it was

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Speaker 1: a self defense act. He had been attacked and molested

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Speaker 1: and beaten up a little bit before that happened. So

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Speaker 1: he got charged nonetheless, And he got charged because well,

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Speaker 1: the mayor and the city manager and Iris Rowley as

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Speaker 1: well as other council members forced the city solicitor to

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Speaker 1: charge him. They were not going to charge him. Police

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Speaker 1: Chief Fiji, the detectives that were involved in the investigation

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Speaker 1: didn't see anything to charge him with, and so that

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Speaker 1: became reality yesterday when the case got dismissed. Your comments

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Speaker 1: on that signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Even Connie Pillage, Yeah, it's probably the worst prosecutor we've

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Speaker 5: ever had in the history of Hamla County said, there's

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Speaker 5: it's a nothing biscuit. We're not going to charge him.

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Speaker 5: And so what they did was they overcharged him. So

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Speaker 5: the disorderly conduct charge that they chose carried thirty days

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Speaker 5: of jail time if convicted, up to thirty days, and

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Speaker 5: so yeah, they promised everybody, Oh, he's going to do time.

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Speaker 5: No he's not. And here's why. Because Interim Chief Henny

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Speaker 5: is the one that signed the charge. Why if Ez

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Speaker 5: refused to sign it, the two detectives investigating the case

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Speaker 5: refused to sign it. They were fully prepared to resign

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Speaker 5: that day if they were going to be ordered to

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Speaker 5: sign charges. So Captain Henny at the time came in

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Speaker 5: and signed the charges so that he wouldn't lose two

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Speaker 5: of his best detectives. Okay, now fast forward. How do

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Speaker 5: you go to court? Well, if Chief DG and the

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Speaker 5: two detectives are witnesses for the defense and Interim Chief Henny,

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Speaker 5: what's he going to say on the stand? Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: signed charges for a case I never investigated because I

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Speaker 5: didn't want two of my detectives to resign. I mean

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Speaker 5: he would if I were him and I had to

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Speaker 5: go to court on that, I'd probably plead the fish

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Speaker 5: because I mean, how do you get your how do

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Speaker 5: you worm your way out of that? You know, it

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Speaker 5: was altruistic why he did it, but he did it anyway.

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to detected Yeah, he could have said no as well.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing. If they had all said, no,

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Speaker 5: what was the city going to do?

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Speaker 1: I know, if the city fired them because they refused

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Speaker 1: to charge someone because there was not evidence of a crime,

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Speaker 1: then they have more lawsuits on their hands, wouldn't they

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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're going to have a doozy with Alex.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that he's he's going to sue

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Speaker 5: them the Kingdom come and I hope he's listening, and

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Speaker 5: good luck to you, Alex. I fully expect that lawsuit

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Speaker 5: to drop probably this week.

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Speaker 1: Alex Krunsky versus the City of Cincinnati. Do you think

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Speaker 1: there'll be specifically named individuals in that one or just

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Speaker 1: the city generally speaking? Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Well, if I was his attorney, I would to the

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Speaker 5: city and I would sew Dottie Johnson and Damon Lance

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Speaker 5: and Iris Rowley and the mayor.

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Speaker 8: And.

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Speaker 5: I would go after all of them individually too, the

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Speaker 5: ones that pushed for it the hardest and the ones

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Speaker 5: that made public announcements that this was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know what, wouldn't it be a beautiful

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Speaker 1: thing if that lawsuit does get filed and they get

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Speaker 1: to do discovery, they get to swear witnesses in and

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Speaker 1: depose them and we then will find out all that

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Speaker 1: went on behind the scenes, or they'll just outright live.

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Speaker 1: But I think it would be very beneficial to the

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Speaker 1: residents of the city Cincinnati. You know exactly how this

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Speaker 1: unfolded based on witness testimony in a civil suit. That'd

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Speaker 1: be cool.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, And not to mention, Cheryl Long is awful

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Speaker 5: at depositions. He is horrendous at depositions. So I've like

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Speaker 5: to know how you know he Fiji who never got

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Speaker 5: a review or a write at her if her performance

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Speaker 5: was so poor? Right, like I said in my article,

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Speaker 5: how come there was never a come to Jesus talk like, hey,

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Speaker 5: chiefj you better get your act together. We're putting you

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Speaker 5: on a performance improvement plan or you know, a disciplinary action.

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Speaker 5: If she was doing such a bad job, why was

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Speaker 5: the mayor praising her well?

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is to that point, how is

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Speaker 1: it that they needed to retain an outside law firm

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Speaker 1: to figure out that things weren't going well behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes under her administration. If they knew all that, they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have given her pats on the back and and

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Speaker 1: and praise up until the moment in time when they

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Speaker 1: decided they need to get rid of her for political reasons.

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Speaker 1: They had nothing. They didn't even come out loud and

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Speaker 1: say we suspect we've had lots of reports of, you know,

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Speaker 1: the leadership being in terrible She's a she's a dictator,

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Speaker 1: she doesn't listen to anybody. Nothing. They could have said that, no.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no they and they didn't. It was a

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Speaker 5: nothing biscuit. Then it's a nothing biscuit. Now it's all

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Speaker 5: supposition and conjecture, all of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And what's going to come of the six point

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Speaker 1: or six million plus cut almost seven million cut from

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Speaker 1: the to the police department. Is this I don't know

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Speaker 1: it is budgeting time? Is this like a threat? I mean,

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Speaker 1: are they Are they really saying we're going to cut

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Speaker 1: police funding when we have all these different organizations, non

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Speaker 1: governmental and otherwise and stupid pet projects like green solar

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Speaker 1: arrays that they're putting money toward eight million dollars for

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Speaker 1: the River Bend project. Can they really justify a cut

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Speaker 1: to the police Department of these trying times Signal ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: Before we part company, Absolutely not, especially coming into we're

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Speaker 5: coming into the warmer weather. The gang violence never stopped

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01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 5: through the winner. The juvenile violence is just starting to

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Speaker 5: kick off. It's just going to be a free for all.

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Speaker 5: And the Siegic falls weren't big trouble, big, big, big trouble.

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Speaker 1: Well one things for sure, we know you will be

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: letting us know about it before anybody in local news

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Speaker 1: will know about it. Signal ninety nine on Facebook. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time of late and you talked to

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Speaker 1: local media all the time. You were specifically cited by

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Speaker 1: local media. You are a powerful influence of the city

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and I'm glad to have access to a

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Speaker 1: conversation with you. I know my listeners are as well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again. It's seven oh six here fifty five Karsity

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Speaker 1: Talk Stations subsidenting our regular tool bumber music for the

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Speaker 1: streetcar theme. You know what's coming next from Protecting Taxpayers

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Speaker 1: dot org, which is the website for Taxpayer Retextion Alliance.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, my friend Dave Williams. It's always a real

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Speaker 1: plague to have you on the fifty five Caroseite morning show.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Brian, and you play that music. But DC

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 9: doesn't have a street car anything.

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Speaker 1: That's why Joe cute it up. I saw that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, I can't wait to talk

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Speaker 1: to Dave Williams, the Taxpayer Text Alliance about it. What

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Speaker 1: was it two miles long? Wasn't it few miles long?

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Speaker 9: Two hundred and twenty million dollars to build?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you say that out loud. It makes it sound

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Speaker 1: like Cincinnati got a deal on it's a streetcar.

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Speaker 4: Such a bargain for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: So I guess when faced with the realities having to

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Speaker 1: maintain and upkeep that streetcar, pay people to run it

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Speaker 1: when no one was on it, they decided to pull

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Speaker 1: the plug on it, even though they had previously invested

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Speaker 1: that kind of coin to put it there in the

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Speaker 1: first place.

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Speaker 4: Ten years in one month.

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Speaker 9: And I remember back ten years ago when the Taxpayer's

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Speaker 9: Protection Alliance we released a report talking about the cost of.

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Speaker 4: The streetcar, and not just building it, but the marketing costs.

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Speaker 9: They were giving away free Frisbees, Well free taxpayers paid

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01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 9: for thee and it cost them one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 9: thousand dollars to build a website for the streetcar.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: No, I am not kidding you at all.

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Speaker 1: That's insane. You know, my son has done many websites.

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Speaker 1: He's a computer geek expert kind of guy, and it's

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Speaker 1: sort of a side thing he has done to pass

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Speaker 1: his websites. It never really took him a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of time to do it, and he never charged much

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: money to get it accomplished. That's not rocket science anymore, Dave.

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Speaker 9: He's probably kicking himself, probably thinking, yah, I could have

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01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 9: built that streetcar website for eighty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's a chip off the old man's block that

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: he's not one that's going to go out and search

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01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: for government contracts, even though might a near to his

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Speaker 1: financial benefits. Anyway, congratulations, though, I'm getting the plug pulled

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Speaker 1: on that. At least it's going to say the DC

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Speaker 1: taxpayers some money.

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Speaker 9: It is, And listen, this has been my white whale, right,

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Speaker 9: I mean for the past ten years.

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Speaker 4: In one month, it's been my white whale.

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Speaker 1: Have a celebratory cocktail. I'll even pay for it, Dave,

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: to send me the bill, all right. Pivoting over the

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Speaker 1: things that Dave Williams is always looking for. He and

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Speaker 1: the team at Taxpayer Protection Alliance insane government spending, so

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Speaker 1: putting aside local spending on that we have a new

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Speaker 1: TPA report finding FDA costs are soaring with drug rejections rising.

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Speaker 1: What's behind this one, Dave Williams.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is this is incredible, is that the FDA

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Speaker 9: is becoming slower and more unresponsive even though it's getting

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Speaker 9: more money, more money from taxpayers, but also more money

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Speaker 9: from industry, from pharmaceutical companies.

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Speaker 4: The FDA is not doing its job, Brian.

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Speaker 9: And you know, over the past you know, fifteen twenty years,

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 9: we have seen amazing progress in medicine. And listen, I

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 9: know the controversy about the vaccines, and I sympathize with

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 9: the controversy in vaccines because that was done so quickly

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 9: and approved so quickly. But you know, we have medicines

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 9: that have been in the pipeline for years. It takes

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Speaker 9: what ten to twelve years and about two billion dollars

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01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 9: to approve a drug, and anything can stop that that

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 9: whole process. And it's frustrating because the FDA has an opportunity,

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Speaker 9: whether it's gene therapy, you know, so many cutting edge

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Speaker 9: technologies and it's just lagging behind in approving these.

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Speaker 1: I thought with the Make America Healthy Again agenda that

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Speaker 1: this and this this day. This is not a so

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Speaker 1: prize to you that it takes a long time and

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars to get a drug approved. This is

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Speaker 1: something been going on for years and years and years,

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Speaker 1: but that it exists as a problem. The I guess

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Speaker 1: concerning thing is that this administration hasn't done anything to

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Speaker 1: streamline the process that sounds consistent with a Trump administration

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Speaker 1: type of plan or or policy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and when you look at the FDA, they have

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Speaker 9: these thresholds that a drug has to be ninety five

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Speaker 9: percent efficient, not safe.

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Speaker 4: We're not talking. I mean safety obviously is job one.

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Speaker 4: Right you have to be.

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Speaker 9: But you know, when you have efficacy of a drug

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Speaker 9: at ninety five percent but it gets rejected because of

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Speaker 9: that ninety four point eight percent, something's wrong with the system.

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Speaker 9: Something is absolutely broken in the system. If that's what

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Speaker 9: they're doing.

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Speaker 1: The solution is it that simple just to flip the

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Speaker 1: switch and make it ninety or make it less than

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Speaker 1: ninety five percent or more than ninety five percent, depending

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Speaker 1: on your perspective on it. I don't know. Somewhere someone's

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Speaker 1: going to say, well, wait a second, there has to

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Speaker 1: be a cutoff, and what is it? Is it arbitrary, Well.

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Speaker 9: It's arbitrary, but then you know right to try and

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Speaker 9: saying okay, if it's ninety four percent, you know, just

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Speaker 9: so you know, full disclosure, this drug is ninety four percent,

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Speaker 9: but you can you can still use it. Or if

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Speaker 9: this drug has been approved in the other countries that

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Speaker 9: we trust, you know, the UK, Germany, Japan, they have

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Speaker 9: very rigid standards. Why do we have to reinvent the

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Speaker 9: wheel in this country if we have other countries that

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Speaker 9: have approved medication.

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Speaker 1: And wouldn't that serve as a massive country based clinical

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Speaker 1: trial if they've approved the drug and their population is

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Speaker 1: using it, presumably in large numbers compared to US where

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Speaker 1: we haven't approved the drug. Yet, we have statistical examples

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Speaker 1: about how many people get sick as a consequence of

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Speaker 1: using any given drug. Do they use that evidence when

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Speaker 1: considering it here in the United States?

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Speaker 4: They do not.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's great, Absolutely, that makes no sense.

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Speaker 9: No, and again, this is about the consumer. It's about patients,

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Speaker 9: it's about healthcare. It's not about the FDA. And the

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Speaker 9: FDA is a standing in the way. And listen, I

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Speaker 9: understand the desire to make America healthy again. I understand

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Speaker 9: the desire to get you know, this nonsense out of

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Speaker 9: our foods, right, But I think what we're they're not

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Speaker 9: seeing the bigger picture here, and there's no real reform

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Speaker 9: of HHS or the FDA.

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Speaker 1: Well, what specific steps can the FDA and Congress make

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Speaker 1: to improve the drug approval process and expand access? Is

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Speaker 1: it simple?

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Speaker 5: It is?

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Speaker 9: Well, first, the reciprocal agreement that we have with other countries.

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Speaker 9: And again I'm talking about trusted countries. You know, not Botswana.

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Speaker 9: You know, we're not going to take a drug just

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Speaker 9: approved in Botswana. But you know when you're talking about Japan,

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Speaker 9: UK and Germany, you know, these are trusted partners.

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Speaker 4: These are trusted countries, and I think that would go

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Speaker 4: a long way.

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Speaker 9: And you know, breaking down the ten to twelve year

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Speaker 9: approval process. There's got to be a better way to

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Speaker 9: do this.

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Speaker 1: Well, other than tradition. What's standing in the way of this?

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Speaker 1: I presume the pharmaceutical companies are all over your suggestion,

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Speaker 1: Dave Williams.

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Speaker 7: They are.

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Speaker 9: And you know, we always think that the pharmaceutical companies

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Speaker 9: have such strong weight when it comes to lobbying, but

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Speaker 9: in reality they don't because look at this process, and

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Speaker 9: it's really the FDA bureaucracy and now Brian, this is

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Speaker 9: every bureaucracy in the government is they expand they don't contract,

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Speaker 9: and you never see a bureaucracy gets smaller. And you know,

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Speaker 9: if you're at the Department of Commerce or Department of Transportation,

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Speaker 9: you don't see the mediate effect of it. But FDA

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Speaker 9: it's so you know, it's so sensitive, and we see

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Speaker 9: that immediate effect of these drugs not being approved.

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Speaker 1: So a shorter, more streamline approval process means smaller government,

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Speaker 1: which means the people who are currently standing in the

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Speaker 1: way and overseeing these studies are going to lose a job.

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Speaker 1: So this is all about protecting government employees.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 9: Some people want to protect taxpayers. Other people want to

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Speaker 9: protect government employees.

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Speaker 1: How about RFK Junior, the MAHA guy, the man's behind

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Speaker 1: this whole craze is has he said anything about these

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Speaker 1: proposals that you're talking about, Dave Williams, are about the

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Speaker 1: slow process that over the that the FDA has and

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Speaker 1: in approving drugs.

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Speaker 4: He has not. He absolutely has not. There's been nothing

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Speaker 4: coming out of his office.

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Speaker 9: And he has a really obviously big platform to talk

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Speaker 9: about this, yes, and could make a huge difference in this.

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Speaker 9: And you know, one of the problems with RFK Junior

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Speaker 9: is that he has ties to the legal industry, the

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Speaker 9: tort industry where they've been suing drug manufacturers. So his

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Speaker 9: I think it's his son and don't get you know,

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Speaker 9: I don't want.

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Speaker 1: To, but Dave that the lawsuits can't go away. He's

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Speaker 1: not changing the underlying torte law. If they approve drugs

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Speaker 1: maybe too rapidly, that seems to me it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a feeding frenzy for the PLANEFFS bar out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So, I mean, listen, there's a lot of things going

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Speaker 9: on behind the scenes that just aren't good for you know,

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Speaker 9: for the country and for for taxpayers and consumers.

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Speaker 1: Now, his taxpayer protection line is given the weight that

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Speaker 1: your organization has and you do have. They reached out

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Speaker 1: to RFK and asked specifically his comments on your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on this.

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Speaker 9: We have and what we're doing is we're also submitting

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Speaker 9: Freedom of Information Act requests trying to figure out just

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Speaker 9: exactly the chatter behind the scenes on a number of

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Speaker 9: issues at the FDA and HHS.

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Speaker 1: And right there there's a contribute button at Protecting Taxpayers

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Speaker 1: dot Org. It takes money to get these things going,

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Speaker 1: and I encourage my listeners to consider that contribution when

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Speaker 1: they're overt checking out the website for the Taxpayer Protection Lines.

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Speaker 1: Dave Williams pause, will bring it back and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about permanent pilot programs. Sounds like we're continuing a theme

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Speaker 1: about government, and then sports betting and local taxes before

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Speaker 1: we get to Americans for Prosperity. Donald O'Neil at the

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Speaker 1: bottom in the hour and at Talkstation at seven nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRCD Talks Station. I always enjoy hearing from

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Speaker 1: Dave Wollyams from the Taxpayer Protection Lines, and I encourage

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Speaker 1: you to check the website out and bookmarket and find

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Speaker 1: out what they're doing for us each and every day

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Speaker 1: of the week, protecting taxpayers dot org, pivoting over kidding.

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Speaker 1: Nothing so permanent as a pilot program. And this is

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Speaker 1: the thing that really irks me, including using the tax

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Speaker 1: code to manipulate people like we saw with the Affordable

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Speaker 1: Care Act premium tax credits. Oh here, there's going to

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Speaker 1: be no premium. That just means you and I are

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Speaker 1: paying for a Dave. But it's got an expiration date.

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Speaker 1: But lo and behold, when the expiration date comes, they

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Speaker 1: want to extend it, and extend it and extend it.

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Speaker 1: Just one of a multitude of illustrations of this, Dave.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so it sort of has an expiration date, right.

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Speaker 4: Congress does this knowing that they're going to extend it.

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Speaker 9: And the reason they do this, there's a number of reasons,

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Speaker 9: but the biggest reason is it's all sleight of hand

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Speaker 9: fiscal chaicanery. Is that they say, Okay, these tax extenders

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Speaker 9: are going to They're going to expire in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 9: So the way we when I say score, the way

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Speaker 9: we're going to cost this to the government is a

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Speaker 9: certain dollar amount because.

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Speaker 4: It's going to expire. Nothing never expires.

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Speaker 9: They do this so it makes the budget look better

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Speaker 9: in five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. And this is how

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Speaker 9: they passed the budget, saying, well, the deficit's not going

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Speaker 9: to be that bad because these things expire. They never expire.

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Speaker 9: Like you said in the ACA, the Affordable Care Act

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Speaker 9: premium tax credits. Man, if that's not the poster child

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Speaker 9: for what's happening here, nothing else is. Because you know,

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Speaker 9: there's supposed to be a temporary expansion under the American

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Speaker 9: recue plan of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Based upon the COVID. Right, this is a COVID thing.

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Speaker 1: So COVID is not a problem anymore. We have it,

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Speaker 1: We have a vaccine for that, Dave. So COVID is

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Speaker 1: not a problem anymore. And yet they want to continue

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Speaker 1: extending these tax credits which were built and predicated on COVID.

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Speaker 9: So uh, and then and then increases subsidy levels after.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 9: You know, COVID is gone and now the extension is

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Speaker 9: still here and they're expanding the ACA credits. So this

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Speaker 9: is something that happens. And you know, we talk about

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Speaker 9: demonstration projects a lot of time with spending. But like

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Speaker 9: you said, the tax provision and these tax extenders, they're

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Speaker 9: as bad as earmarks because tax extenders go to certain

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Speaker 9: industries and certain companies. I mean, it gets down to

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Speaker 9: the micro level where it goes down to certain companies,

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Speaker 9: and these are ear marks, Brian, These are tax earmarks

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Speaker 9: that are just as bad as spending earmarks, if not worse.

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Speaker 1: No question about it. So going back to the original

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump tax cuts which had a built in expiration date,

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Speaker 1: which were extended inshrine permanently later, is are you telling

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Speaker 1: me the reason there was an expiration date in the

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Speaker 1: tax cuts. I always thought it was I guess who knows,

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Speaker 1: But you're saying is because the CBO scoring.

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Speaker 4: It was CBO scoring.

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Speaker 9: It was Pelosian, the Democrats wanting to get something out

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Speaker 9: of the tax bill, but mostly it was done because

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Speaker 9: of CBO scoring. And you know, it's funny if you

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Speaker 9: look at budget documents from the federal government, they have

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Speaker 9: these things called out years, which is ten years, fifteen,

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Speaker 9: twenty years down the road as to what something will cost.

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Speaker 9: And John Kasik, who everyone in Ohio, it was very

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Speaker 9: from Kasic.

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Speaker 4: We remember, yeah, twenty years ago.

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Speaker 9: He said, I have never seen an out ear when

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Speaker 9: it comes to budgeting. Is that they have these plans

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Speaker 9: for twenty years, but I have never seen an out ear.

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Speaker 9: So he had a moment of clarity back in the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they also have a way to mission creep these

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Speaker 1: kind of things like if you start with reparations for

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Speaker 1: like this number of people with this finite amount of money,

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Speaker 1: then you know, damn well did about about a minute

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Speaker 1: in time forward that's going to expand to a much

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Speaker 1: broader program with a whole lot more money and be

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Speaker 1: permanently enshrined.

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Speaker 9: Flipping over, how Brian try to try to take that

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Speaker 9: away from somebody, trying to take that extension, that expansion

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Speaker 9: away from someone, and it's they'll screen bloody murder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you never get somebody to remember what life was

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Speaker 1: like before they created this large jess from government. How

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Speaker 1: do we manage to survive without it? Anyway? Over to

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Speaker 1: sports betting, which, fine, go ahead and bet on sports.

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. It's obviously resulting in some real complications,

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Speaker 1: most noted like in college basketball, point shape becomes a

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Speaker 1: thing when the individual playing the game can be impacted

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Speaker 1: by sports betting. But how does sports betting harm local

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Speaker 1: government revenue?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so listen, I personally don't want an eighteen or

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Speaker 9: twenty two year old kid determine how much money I

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Speaker 9: have in my pocket.

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Speaker 4: You know, he may be breaking up with his girlfriend

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Speaker 4: and going through so you know, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: But if people want to bet that someone might be

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Speaker 1: familiar with that individual's porn surfing habits or something else

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Speaker 1: and threatened to reveal them to the world unless he

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01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: shaves that he misses that three point bucket on purpose.

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Speaker 4: But listen, people, bet. I get it. It should be

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Speaker 4: done legally.

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Speaker 9: It should be done, you know, because a lot of

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Speaker 9: people will bet with the black market and you have

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Speaker 9: zero protections. And what happens is states go, Okay, we're

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Speaker 9: going to allow this to allow sports betting, and we're

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Speaker 9: going to raise the taxes. We're going to have a

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Speaker 9: really high tax. Well, people are going to go back

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Speaker 9: to the black market. And we see that there's a

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Speaker 9: certain point, you know, right now, the average rate is

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Speaker 9: about fifteen percent on sports betting in the country. Right

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Speaker 9: New York is fifty percent.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, guess what. They have a bigger black market now, yes,

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Speaker 4: because it's so expensive to bet.

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Speaker 9: And that's what's happening, is that the money is not

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Speaker 9: getting to the local government, it's not getting to the

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Speaker 9: state government.

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Speaker 4: Is that people aren't changing their behavior.

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Speaker 9: Well, they're changing their behavior to the black market and

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Speaker 9: not legal sports betting.

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Speaker 1: And if my grandfather, the one who I didn't know,

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01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: my dad's father, passed away when dad was eighteen, he

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Speaker 1: fed the family not because he owned a bar, but

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01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: because he was a book maker. Bar serves as a

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 1: convenient place for people to go and place bets. That

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Speaker 1: would be the black market the days referring to. So

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: when they're taking fifty percent of whatever it is you're

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01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: betting is taxes, then you're going to go over to

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01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: my late grandfather Pat in place the bet with him.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's why there's this sweet spot of taxation

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 9: right is where people will still engage in that activity legally.

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Speaker 9: And again, states are always pushing the limit, always pushing

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01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 9: the envelope, and it's really a lazy way to bring

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Speaker 9: in revenue.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't bring in revenue.

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: This is a fool's gold.

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Speaker 9: And this is happening in Maryland where they just raised

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01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 9: the cannabis tax, the gaming tax and lo and beholds.

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Speaker 9: Six months into their budget, the revenues are below so

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Speaker 9: and I hate to use Maryland as an example, but

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 9: I have to because they want to bring in five

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01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 9: hundred million dollars this year in the new gaming tax.

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01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 9: They're projected to bring in one hundred million because of

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01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 9: the tax that they raise, of how much they raised it.

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Speaker 4: But this is across the country, every state.

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01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 9: There's always that sweet spot and once you go above it.

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 4: You're in trouble.

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01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 9: I was going to say another word, but I'll be

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01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 9: fined by the sea.

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Speaker 1: No that's okay. Just ask all the people that fled

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01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: California and New York and other places for lower taxation.

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01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: If you put high taxes in the way, someone's going

1563
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: to look at it and say, you know what, there's

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01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: a better place out there. Same thing with sports gambling.

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Speaker 1: Interesting reality. Dave Williams Camebram fifty five, KROC the talk station.

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: It is thirty one if you have KCD talk Station,

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: Haty Wednesday Listener, Lunch Today and Liberty Collective. They're looking

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Speaker 1: forward to having us there. I'm looking to be for

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01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: to being there. Kevin, if you're out there, I cannot

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01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: wait to eat the pastrami that you promise you would

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01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 1: bring me today. Kevin is awesome and so awesome at barbecue.

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: He's going to be catering in part my daughter's wedding

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01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: in June. I love you, Kevin. Anyway, without further Ado,

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01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 1: let's talk to Donovan and Neil. He's a senior advisor

1575
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: and he's got his AFP Action hat on this morning

1576
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: and you can find AFP action at AFP action dot com.

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Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity, donal On Neeil, Welcome back to the

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01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: Morning Show.

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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Brian always great to be with you.

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01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have you on and a big

1581
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: thanks in upfront for all the work that AFP does

1582
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: to help people, make it to make it easy for

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01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: people to help get involved with elections here in the

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. It's so important and every little bit accounts,

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 1: as you always point that out. We got early voting

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01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: kickoff coming up. What's this one all about, Donovan?

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 8: Well, that time of years here, Brian, it's not just

1588
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 8: spring showers. We got to get out and get the

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01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 8: vote out. And you know I describe but as you me, Joe,

1590
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 8: we're weird, right, We eat, sleep, and breathe this political stuff.

1591
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 8: We're always paying attention to know when these things are.

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01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 8: But most of islands, most Americans, you know, they're just

1593
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 8: trying to make ends meet with the bills, get the

1594
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 8: kids to soccer practice or my case, kids to theater practice,

1595
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 8: and you know, they they're not plugged into what's you know,

1596
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 8: entirely going on, or how to cut through the noise

1597
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 8: that is, you know, political ads season. And so that's

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01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 8: why our get out the vote efforts so important to

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01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 8: make sure that we're connecting Ohioan's right on the issues

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01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 8: that matter and we do that through door to door canvassing.

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01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 8: April seventh is the beginning of early vote, and so

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01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 8: we're going to go out across the state and do

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 8: a big get out to vote drive to help remind

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01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 8: folks that whether you vote early, vote by mail, or

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01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 8: vote in person on election day, we want people to

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01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 8: make a plan to vote, and you've got thirty days

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01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 8: to do it.

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01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: In terms of obviously, AFP Action is a more conservative

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01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: leaning organization, so you're not out campaigning for the likes

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 1: of Shared, But do you hand out like recommendations like hey,

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: you got to remember the judges are on the ballot too,

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01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: and here's a list of judges or a specific recommendations

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01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: as you go door to door, or it's just just

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01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: generally talking about voting.

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01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 8: No, we actually talk about the candidates we endure. So

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01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 8: on Afpassion side right, talk about John Houstad and his

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01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 8: his record the last eighteen months representing us as our senator,

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01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 8: and what's what's at stake, the ballots, power for Congresses

1619
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 8: at stake, and so reminding folks of that.

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01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 2: And then on the AFP side right that that team is.

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01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 8: Out there letting folks know about the folks who are

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 8: going to represent you in Columbus, and primaries matter. As

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01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 8: we well know, Brian, there's a big difference between you know,

1624
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,480
Speaker 8: we're across the spectrum of Republicans and so called conservatives.

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01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 8: We make sure to get out there and talk about

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01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 8: the folks who are going to fight to lower taxes,

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 8: cut red tape and regulations, and empower families with school choice.

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01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know vv Gramosolm. He's got the whole

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01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: idea about property tax and obviously huge topic here in

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01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: oh iow but his platform is to roll the property

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01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: taxes back to where they were before COVID kicked in

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01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: and then cap them at a rate of inflation. That

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01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: seems to be a brilliant suggestion compared to I don't

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01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: know the situation we're living with right now here in Ohio.

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01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 8: Well, the situation we're really with right now in Ohio

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01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 8: is untenable. You know, I get, I have the blessing

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01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 8: of travel in the state. You have the blessing of

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01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 8: hearing for folks across southwest Ohio and bringing them on

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01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 8: your show to talk with them.

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01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: We all know what the problem is.

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 8: Here in the state. We need bold leadership that's going

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01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 8: to actually address these problems and do it in a

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01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 8: way right that doesn't shift the burden to a different

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 8: type of tax or Ultimately, you know, we've many services, police, fire.

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 8: I kind of like knowing those services exist, yes, in

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01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 8: a questionable state.

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01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Well, we all appreciate our police and fire here on

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01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: the Morning show too. Talk about issues and challenges we're

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01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: dealing with here on a local basis in the city Cincinnati. Dave, Yeah,

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01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh my word. I guess you do get word about

1651
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that too, don't you.

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01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that you know.

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Speaker 8: I think that the thing I saw on that is

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01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 8: AFTAB just can't the mayor can't take a day off.

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01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: But I think there's a bigger problem than that.

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Speaker 8: I think it comes down to leadership at the city

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 8: level and they need to they make some serious changes.

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01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 8: The voters in Cincinnati probably do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they missed the memo about it. Speaking of voting,

1660
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: and your your kick on early voting is get people out,

1661
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: remind them that there is an opportunity to vote. The

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01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: primaries matter, the elections matter. If you'd only gotten the

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01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: AFP Action crew out there in full force in the

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01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati area, maybe more than one of the four

1665
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: voters who are registered might have shown up to vote well, and.

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01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 8: That's part of you know, beyond just this effort we

1667
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 8: do here right now, right, I'll put a plug in.

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01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 8: You know, we have some grassroots leader development programs. We

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01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 8: bring folks to Columbus, We spend multiple days investing in

1670
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 8: them to help them become grassroots leaders at that local

1671
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 8: level where they can impact these things. Right, we don't

1672
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 8: just we don't just we're not just the X. You know,

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01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 8: we don't try to just be the experts who tell

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01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 8: people what to do. You know, we like these them

1675
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 8: up solutions. We want you know, if there are folks

1676
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 8: listeners that you have on the show, Brian, who want

1677
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 8: to take actions, who want to make a difference in

1678
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 8: the community, they just don't know quite yet how they

1679
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 8: need to get plugged in with us because we will

1680
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 8: help equip them to be difference makers in their community,

1681
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 8: run their own get out of the vote programs, run

1682
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 8: their own grassroots organizations, and it gets resolved, It has

1683
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 8: an impact, and we'd love to have.

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01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: Them join with us.

1685
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: And the call to action to do just that is

1686
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: go to AFP action dot com.

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01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, that's you can learn all about our endorsement

1688
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 8: for Senator John Houston. How to get involved and make

1689
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 8: a difference this election. Our country needs it.

1690
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Our country definitely needs it, and I appreciate AFP and

1691
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 1: everything that you and the folks at AFP do each

1692
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: and every day. Donald'neil. Will get you back on again

1693
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: real soon, probably next week, and we'll help more listeners,

1694
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: help you to help us collectively. That's what it's all about, Donovan.

1695
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great weekend and happy Easter

1696
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: to you you as well, Brian, take care, Thanks my friend,

1697
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 1: don't go away. Steve Belso, Clemer County Veteran Service is

1698
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: going to time care se the talk station. It's seven

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Speaker 1: forty two. I have kc DE talk station. It's time

1700
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: for Steve Belso from the Clemic County Veteran Services to

1701
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: talk about emergency care in a non VA facility. Steve,

1702
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: it is great having you back in Man. Thank you

1703
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 1: again as always for what you're doing for the.

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01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 10: American Veteransorney, it is great to be with you, you.

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01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: Your crew, the Klemic County Veteran Services, and of course

1706
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: a shout out to everybody at the VA who's serving

1707
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 1: our American veterans. To the best of their abilities. But sometimes,

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01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 1: as I understand it, veterans have to go to a

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01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: non VA facility, and that sure sounds like out of

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01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: network provider for US straight to you know who didn't

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: serve the American military.

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Speaker 10: It's well one, yes, it is right, Yeah, it's life.

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01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 10: And so if I'm out of the Cincinnati area and

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Speaker 10: I happen to be traveling down to Florida, as most

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Speaker 10: retirees do, why I don't know, I want to go

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Speaker 10: to Alaska. Nonetheless, it's your choice. When you're out of

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Speaker 10: state and out of our area. Who knows you're a

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Speaker 10: veteran with VA Healthcare and.

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Speaker 1: All the VAS aren't hooked up to some central computer

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Speaker 1: that says, yeah, this guy that came in with his

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Speaker 1: DD two to fourteen discharge and signed up for VA

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Speaker 1: healthcare benefits in Hamilton County or Claremont County or any

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Speaker 1: of the other areas, they don't have a note a

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Speaker 1: record of that elsewhere.

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Speaker 10: Not that's in transition. So whole another conversation.

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Speaker 1: They're moving in that direction, though, Is that like a

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Speaker 1: glimmer of hope? There not even a.

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Speaker 10: Glimmer of hope that that is happening by location, and

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Speaker 10: so Serna was purchased by Oracle that sold it to

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Speaker 10: the VA so that all the VA facilities can have

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01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 10: a connection through our great cloud. Right, it's not floating overhead.

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Speaker 10: So now I can go from VA facility to facility

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01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 10: and oh there's Steve, right, I see you, instead of

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01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 10: being stovepiped into your VA locale only. Okay, but this

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01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 10: is this is more really the the emergent topic today

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01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 10: is about I'm traveling down seventy five and I'm in

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01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 10: the middle of Georgia and my chest just starts killing me.

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01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 10: Your arm is right, yea, I need to pull off

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01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 10: at a hospital. Well, I'm not trying to find a

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01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 10: local VA hospital to go to exactly. It's an emergency.

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01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 10: So I'm going to take the first hospital I see. Now,

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01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 10: in Cincinnati area, most hospitals know are you a veteran?

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01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 10: And to call the the Cincinnati VA. The problem becomes

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01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 10: when we can move out of our area locally, most

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01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 10: hospitals are not asking you are you a veteran? Do

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01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 10: you have VA healthcare?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 10: And so it's up to the responsibility of the veteran

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Speaker 10: or the veterans family to contact the VA within seventy

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Speaker 10: two hours.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve's going to continue on this very important

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Speaker 1: subject matter when we return. It's seven forty five right now,

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Speaker 1: Wage It's seven seven fifty fifty five kr z DE

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Speaker 1: talk station. Clement Sandy Comic. Let's start over right, Cleima

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Speaker 1: County Veteran Services, Steve bell Zone Studio, the executive director.

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01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: He is providing great services the American veteran and it's

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Speaker 1: a great first stop for veterans issues out there, maybe

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Speaker 1: even getting signed up for VA benefits, getting to your appointments.

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Speaker 1: Clement County Veterans Services does it all, and God bless

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Speaker 1: them for it. So going into getting emergency operative word

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Speaker 1: care at a non VA facility. Your example, Steve was

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01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: maybe on vacation in Florida. You got a grabber going

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01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 1: on while you're driving a car. All you want is

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Speaker 1: the nearest hospital. It's not a VA hospital. So you

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01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: go there, you get your emergency treatment. That is not

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01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 1: to say you can go to an urgent care facility.

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01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: It needs to be an emergency facility.

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Speaker 10: That's right, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sort of proving that it is in fact a medical emergency,

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01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: not just local. Well, well was right there I saw

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01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: trying to walk on it.

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Speaker 10: If it's non emergency base, then you would find a

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01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 10: local VA facility, which you can do outside of state.

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01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 10: But if it's an emergency, the VA wants you to

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01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 10: call nine to one one. Yeah, preferably right, instead of

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01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 10: driving yourself, or have a spouse or someone of significant

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01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 10: interest take you to non the closest hospital.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it that way. Those circumstances, when met, results

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Speaker 1: in the VA paying for the services at an n

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01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: VA facility. Correct, correct, They there's a caveat to this though,

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Speaker 1: isn't all.

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Speaker 10: Welcome to life?

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01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: I know it's this government run, So I just say

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Speaker 1: it is right.

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Speaker 10: And so here's here's the misnumbers that most individuals don't

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Speaker 10: know if they have VA healthcare, especially those who use

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01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 10: the VA for one hundred percent of the healthcare their

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01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 10: primary care physician. Uh, they're part of a pack team somewhere,

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Speaker 10: and I have one never been told this. I learned

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Speaker 10: this by a veteran coming to our office saying the

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Speaker 10: VA is not paying for my husband's two weeks in

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Speaker 10: the emergency room, and my service officer says, have they

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01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 10: called the VAKA number?

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Speaker 1: Red flag for VA families out there? Here's here's the

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01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: ultimate point on this. Yes, you'll get the payment covered,

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01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: but what do you have to do to make sure

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Speaker 1: that happens? Steve Belzoup, that's right.

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Speaker 10: You need to call if you can find if you're

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01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 10: at a VA, ask them for the community care card

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01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 10: because on it is a phone number. It is eight

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01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 10: four four seven two four seven six four to two.

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01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 10: And I suggest veterans and your spouses take a photo

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01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 10: of this that you have it resin on your phone

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01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 10: or save it as a phone contact number. So if

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Speaker 10: the veteran loved one is actually in the v VA

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01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 10: system for healthcare and has to visit the emergency room,

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01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 10: it's imperative that they let the hospital know they have

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Speaker 10: VA healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so right out of the gate the first step.

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Speaker 1: The second step is while they're getting the emergency care,

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Speaker 1: hopefully it's short term turnaround, they're in and out, they

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01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: can call this VA number. Now you said the number

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Speaker 1: was eight four four.

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Speaker 10: Seven two four seven two four seven eight.

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Speaker 1: Four to two seven eight four to two I just

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01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: want to make sure it was repeated to my veteran

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01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: friends and families can get that down. So what happens

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01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: if you don't reach out to the VA and call

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Speaker 1: that number within seventy two hours?

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01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 10: Now you've got a I won't call it a fight,

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01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 10: You're not promised. It becomes from will to question a right.

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01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 10: So it's how it's filed.

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Speaker 1: Most hospitals in our.

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati area know to report to the VA and ask

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01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 10: are you a veteran? However, it's always best to double

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01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 10: up the effort and ensure that someone from the family

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01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 10: is calling the VA.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a pleasing thing to hear that our local

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01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: hospitals typically asked the question whether or not they're covered

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01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: under VA. Does the hospital unilaterally then contact the VA

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01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: for the family. So I just want to make sure

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01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 1: we're clear on this. Is it the norm for them

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01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: to do it? In other words, this condition, this phone

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Speaker 1: call has been satisfied by a hospital that asks whether

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01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: you're covered by the VA.

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01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 10: Never take it for granted.

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01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I going to say that it's upset.

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01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's one of those things. Double down on something

1842
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 10: like this. Hospital emergency rooms are expensive.

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01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Right, right, and of course, the hospital wants to get paid,

1844
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: so it's in their best interest to call the VIA

1845
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: because that's where the reimbursement's going to come from. It is, however, you.

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01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 10: Don't know of the discipline and the initiative of the

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01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 10: individual that was the intake in the emergency room to

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01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 10: follow through to notify the VA. So I would, because

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01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 10: of the cost of these things ensure for me. Hey, Mama,

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01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 10: have this card. It is a photo and I want

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01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 10: you to call it within seventy two hours. What if

1852
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 10: I'm incapacitated. What if I did have a heart attack

1853
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 10: and they put me in a coma automatically, I can't

1854
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 10: tell her. Hey, make sure you call the VA, right,

1855
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 10: So this is for the family members as well as

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01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 10: a veteran to know this number, because a family member

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01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 10: can call the VA on behalf of the veteran to

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01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 10: notify them. My dad, my husband, my uncle is currently

1859
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 10: an emergency room, just arrived here and he's contacted and

1860
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 10: you may have to know his last four is his

1861
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 10: social but somebody immediate famili's got to know that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Having practice in the insurance coverage at REALM Law when

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01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,639
Speaker 1: I was practicing law, whether or not something is truly

1865
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: a definitional emergency? That quite often is it none until

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01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: you get in there and they determined that, well, it's

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01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: not an emergency. Is that going to be a factor here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I think I'm having a grabber heart attack,

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01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 1: the go in and it turns out no, you have gas, right, right,

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01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I won't know that until I go into the emergency room.

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01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,839
Speaker 1: But it may be deem non emergent situation.

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Speaker 4: You won't.

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Speaker 10: But however, somebody had to validate that in the emergency room. Okay, right,

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01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 10: you're not a physician, neither am I. I would rather

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01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 10: be gased and someone bend me over, like maybe then

1876
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 10: it actually be a heart attack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have no argument on that, Steve, Sure that safe?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Some people don't want to have the gas attack. They'd

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01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 10: rather have a pillo under their tongue.

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01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like that's going to be a

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01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 1: really a big problem for someone. So if you clearly

1883
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: are not in an emergency situation, you're not going to

1884
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: have it covered in an a via facility. But if

1885
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: you do go in you believe it's emergency, maybe it

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01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: is maybe no for.

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01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 10: Mental health, right, So we go to the compo act. Right,

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01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 10: that's automatically tied in. It's mental health. Stay there, we

1889
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 10: want to get you. Well, the VA is not going

1890
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 10: to come grab you out of the hospital either. If

1891
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 10: you go to the emergency room, you're not contacting them.

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01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 10: So they send the ambulance over because we're going to

1893
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 10: take you over to the VA. No, they want to

1894
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 10: ensure you're stabilized.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right. Joe Strekker will add this information with

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Speaker 1: the blog page fifty five care Sea dot com. But

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Speaker 1: remember the number eight four four seven two four seven

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01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: eight four to two. Get the card, the community Care

1899
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: card from your VA. Go to the Clarmont Cutty Veteran

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Speaker 1: Services and get their help. It's all there for you.

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01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: Take advantage of it, and yes you will be covered

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01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: as long as you take the proper steps. And that's

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Speaker 1: why we have Steve Belzo absolutely God bless you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Have a wonderful Easter man, Happy.

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01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 6: Year is well?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, here's Risen, thanks brother, take.

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Speaker 1: Care Seves here fifty five car Se de talk station

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Speaker 1: Fine Timas swishing everyone a very happy Wednesday and inviting

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Speaker 1: everybody to lunch. They're going to be at Liberty Collective.

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Speaker 1: They're excited about showing up. Showing up there today about

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty. You can show up real early. Their coffee

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Speaker 1: shops opening at I think seven o'clock point, so it's

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Speaker 1: open and welcome back. It's been a little while, but

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Speaker 1: it is coming up on election time. We've got a

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Speaker 1: May fifth primary. Write it down in your count and

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Speaker 1: make sure you vote. Welcome back to Sherry Pulling from

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Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Board of Elections. It's good having you

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Speaker 1: on the show this morning.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Brian, it's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: Start with a thank you to you and all the

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Speaker 1: folks at the Hamilton County Board of Elections. It is

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Speaker 1: my experience and I'll praise you for it. A very

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Speaker 1: well oiled machine at the Hamilton County Board of Elections.

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Speaker 1: I think your location is great. Parking is easy, and

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Speaker 1: even if there's a line around the corner out the door,

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Speaker 1: that line goes very very quickly, but sadly, not as

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Speaker 1: much of a line we have primary season. Not a

1928
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Speaker 1: lot of folks take exercise their freedom to vote and

1929
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Speaker 1: their right to vote. But that's what we're going to

1930
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Speaker 1: talk about today because there are some changes that we're

1931
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Speaker 1: having to deal with this year. Let's start by talking

1932
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Speaker 1: about the polling locations and redistricting changes that are taking

1933
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Speaker 1: place this year.

1934
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Speaker 12: Yes, so in the Hamilton County, we consolidated some of

1935
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 12: our smaller polling mote. So what that means is we

1936
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 12: eliminated a small location and moved those voters to a

1937
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 12: nearby existing polling location that might be a little larger

1938
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 12: facility that is able to accommodate those voters. And we

1939
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 12: did that because we, you know, take a look at

1940
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,440
Speaker 12: our budget and we see where can we create efficiencies

1941
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Speaker 12: and and and sort of cut cut down our spending

1942
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,719
Speaker 12: a little bit, and we realized that those smaller locations

1943
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,759
Speaker 12: were just not very efficient. So by consolidating them, we're able.

1944
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Speaker 12: You know, that's fewer pull workers we need to recruit, train, pay,

1945
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 12: you know, it's it's less equipment voting equipment that needs

1946
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,600
Speaker 12: to be delivered and tested and prepared. And so we

1947
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 12: did this as you know, a way to be be

1948
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Speaker 12: more efficient.

1949
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Speaker 5: You know, as you just.

1950
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Speaker 12: Mentioned, early voting in person at the Board of Elections

1951
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 12: is just increasingly popular, and so we don't that means

1952
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 12: we don't have as many folks voting on election day.

1953
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 1: And I understand in getting through the whole process. It

1954
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,879
Speaker 1: doesn't take that long to get a voter, you know, registered,

1955
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:05,520
Speaker 1: and give them their their their ballot and modern technology

1956
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: and matching signatures with photo IDS's I understand why you

1957
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: would consolidate these polling locations. You did that recently. I

1958
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: had a prior polling location that was at the Good

1959
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: Shepherd Church and you moved us down around the corner

1960
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 1: of Montgomery Montgomery Road, which is equally convenient. It's not

1961
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: that much farther away, but one stop, and I think

1962
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: you got rid of several different polling locations by putting

1963
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: in a one spot. So it works out fine. No,

1964
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 1: not as many poll workers though. That's great because you're

1965
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: always running short on poll workers, Sherry.

1966
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 12: It is difficult to recruit poll workers. We know it's

1967
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 12: a long day, so you know, anything we can do

1968
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 12: to help with that, we're.

1969
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Speaker 2: Going to take a look at doing fantastic.

1970
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 1: Now you're going to be sending you the Bard of

1971
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: Election is going to be sending out a postcard notice

1972
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 1: about where people should be voting the current polling location.

1973
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Speaker 5: That's correct.

1974
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,640
Speaker 12: Those are in the mail stream as we speak, so

1975
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 12: voters should be seeing those any day now appear in

1976
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 12: their mailboxes because we've had these changes. Now, not everyone's

1977
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 12: polling location has changed. Actually, only about nine percent of

1978
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 12: the voters in Hamilton County will see a change to

1979
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 12: their polling location. But we just thought, you know, we

1980
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 12: want to make sure every voter is well informed and

1981
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 12: there's no confusion. So in the abundance of caution, we

1982
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 12: decided we're going to mount every registered voter that notice

1983
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 12: that postcard will tell them they're precinct where they go

1984
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 12: to vote, and their voting districts. Because something else that

1985
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 12: has changed this year's some again not all, but some

1986
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 12: voters about twenty three percent will see a change in

1987
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 12: their congressional district. The state did some tweaking of the

1988
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 12: congressional lines, and again some of those voters will be

1989
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 12: voting in a different congressional district this election near. So

1990
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 12: we wanted to make sure the voters, every voter was

1991
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:51,879
Speaker 12: informed of their voting districts.

1992
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Speaker 1: Well, I know my listening audience is quite informed on

1993
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: who they'll be voting for, but that's not always the

1994
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 1: case because there's a lot of folks out there that

1995
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: don't even know who they're represented is. So where can

1996
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: people find this out? Okay, I guess is there still

1997
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: time to register to vote or update name and address

1998
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Speaker 1: for the for the primary election this November. I'm sorry

1999
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: this upcoming.

2000
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Speaker 12: Election, upcoming primary election. Yes, May fifth primary. There is

2001
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 12: still time, but the deadline's fast approaching. So in order

2002
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 12: to register or update your registration, you need to do

2003
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 12: so by Monday, April six, So this coming Monday, the

2004
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 12: Board of Elections and really all board of elections across

2005
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 12: the state are required to be open until nine pm

2006
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 12: on that day, so you can just walk in, go

2007
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 12: to your Board of Elections and update. You can also

2008
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 12: go to your local BMB local libraries. They all when

2009
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 12: accept registrations on that date now they have normal business hours,

2010
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 12: or you can join from the convenience of your home

2011
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 12: and register to vote online. You do need to register

2012
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 12: online by eleven fifty nine pm on Monday, so.

2013
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,560
Speaker 1: There's still time and registering online that way is to

2014
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: go to vote Ohio dot gov. That's the Secretary of

2015
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: State site.

2016
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Speaker 5: That's cract.

2017
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 12: You can go directly to the Secretary of State's site.

2018
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 12: If you go to our website, that's fine too. We

2019
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 12: provide a link to the Secretary's site.

2020
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Speaker 1: Which is vote Hamilton County, Ohio dot gov. Do I

2021
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:16,759
Speaker 1: have that one right? Serry?

2022
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Speaker 5: You you do? You do very well.

2023
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: You gave me such awesome notes, Sherry. I'll admit that

2024
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 1: I'm working. I'm working off some notes here. Now let's

2025
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: go back to poll workers, Sherry, poll and you have

2026
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: an opportunity here to maybe incentivize some people to come

2027
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: and work the polls. I'm sure you probably need more

2028
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 1: poll workers.

2029
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 5: Yes, we always need more poll workers.

2030
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Speaker 12: You know, just in general as a society, we don't

2031
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 12: seem to pay as much attention to the primary elections

2032
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 12: as we do November, so we don't have as many

2033
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 12: new poll workers. You know, I've got to put a

2034
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 12: shout out to our returning poll workers that come back

2035
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 12: election after our election. We couldn't do it without them.

2036
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 12: But we you know, we always have some drop off

2037
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 12: people have vacations, other plans, and so we're always recruiting

2038
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 12: new This is a great first time election to come

2039
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 12: and work because we do anticipate the lower turnouts. So

2040
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 12: come and right work this one. It will be a

2041
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 12: good first time. Get your feet wet, and then that

2042
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 12: way you'll be well prepared to work in the November election,

2043
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 12: where we will see a larger turning out.

2044
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, and we did compensate.

2045
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 12: Yes, we are preparing for a large turnout in November. Absolutely,

2046
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 12: but doing it, our poll workers are compensated for their

2047
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 12: time two hundred and twenty five dollars, maybe a little

2048
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 12: more if you are a manager in another managing position.

2049
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 1: Well, anybody out here in my listening audience who complains

2050
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 1: and worries about the integrity of the vote, that this

2051
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: is exactly how we maintain the integrity of the vote.

2052
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: You've got Republicans, you've got democrats, both are riding herd,

2053
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 1: watching out, make sure the rules are followed. They work

2054
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: out any disputes with the disparities or concerns with the voters.

2055
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: That's the role that you're playing. And it's such an

2056
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: important and vital civic role. So it's not about the money.

2057
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,839
Speaker 1: It's about exercising your civic duties.

2058
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 12: Absolutely, And you know, it really truly is a place,

2059
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 12: both the polling places and the Board of Elections office

2060
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:09,640
Speaker 12: where Democrats and Republicans come together and it's easy to

2061
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,080
Speaker 12: do because we just have a common mission. We don't

2062
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,759
Speaker 12: we don't bring our politics into the to that space

2063
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 12: and said, we just focused on our common mission, and

2064
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 12: that's conducting free and fair elections in Hamilton County.

2065
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Have you I'm reluctant to even ask the question, Sherry pulling,

2066
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 1: But I've got to know because my wife worked at polls,

2067
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, years and years and years and years.

2068
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: Never have I heard a single complaint from her about

2069
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: one of the the the other side politically being rude

2070
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: or disrespectful. There's never been any fights, outbreaks, no shouting,

2071
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: no argument. Everybody plays along really, really nicely. If there

2072
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 1: were a problem, how does that go about being resolved

2073
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: by the poll workers? Do they contact the Board of

2074
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: Elections you or they work it out amongst themselves. And

2075
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 1: I guess up front, is that even an issue generally speaking?

2076
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 12: Generally speaking? Now now you know not, you know, if

2077
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 12: we have a poll worker that might be there might

2078
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 12: be a disagreement regarding a proper procedure. That can happen

2079
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 12: from time to time, especially if there's changes in election administration.

2080
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 12: And so we have a help desk set up on

2081
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 12: election day that's dedicated to the poll workers. So we

2082
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 12: have one that's dedicated to the public. So we have

2083
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 12: staff manning that phone line help desk and then we

2084
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 12: have another one that is solely for the poll workers,

2085
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 12: and it's made up of our trainers, so our seasonal

2086
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 12: workers that train the poll workers for a whole month

2087
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 12: before election day. Then man that help desk along with

2088
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 12: our full time staff so we can quickly answer any

2089
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 12: questions or resolve any issues that come up if we're

2090
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 12: not able to resolve it on the phone. We also

2091
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 12: staff what we call field troubleshooters, So those are people

2092
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 12: that have more experienced, more training than the poll workers

2093
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 12: and they are assigned to anywhere from maybe five to

2094
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 12: seven polling locations, and so they are actually out in

2095
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 12: the field all day long in the area of roaming

2096
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 12: the polling locations, making sure everything is up and running,

2097
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 12: and if we do have a problem, we can dispatch

2098
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 12: them quickly to get to get to the polling place.

2099
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 12: So we have many contingencies lined up so that we

2100
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 12: can make sure voting goes as smoothly im possible and

2101
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 12: voters are in and out quickly while following.

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Speaker 1: Ohio law, which has always been my experience, it always

2103
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Speaker 1: works great. Shery Poland Hamlin County Board of Elections, I

2104
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for the work you've done over

2105
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 1: the years, and we're reminding my listeners of this important

2106
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Speaker 1: information this morning. Vote Hamiltoncountyohio dot gov right there, make

2107
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Speaker 1: sure you're registered. If you're not, vote Ohio dot gov.

2108
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Speaker 1: It's all linked up for the Hamilin County Bard of Elections,

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Speaker 1: Sherry Poland, thanks again for your time today and I

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Speaker 1: wish you all the success on a smooth May fifth

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Speaker 1: primary election.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Brian. I appreciate you having me on and

2113
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 12: helping us get this message out to voters.

2114
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Speaker 1: And we see the talk station height twenty two here

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2116
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Speaker 1: a happy on Wednesday. It'll be happy if you show

2117
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2118
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Speaker 1: They're excited about having us. They posted on their website

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Speaker 1: They're encouraging folks to show up and I can do

2121
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Speaker 1: the same thing. I think it's gonna be a really

2122
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Speaker 1: fun spot. Read some good things about the various restaurants there.

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Speaker 1: There are five of them. I'm looking forward to the

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Speaker 1: enjoy the fellowship about eleven thirty and the Liberty Dash

2129
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2130
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Speaker 1: just go directly to the website. So show up today.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Sadly, I will not be playing

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Speaker 1: cribbage today with my submarine or friend cribbage Mike, who's

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Speaker 1: out of town. He's enjoying listening to the morning show

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Speaker 1: this morning, our inside expert on all things Shenantigan related.

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Speaker 1: In downtown Cincinnati, we had the police Chief Thiji report

2139
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Speaker 1: came out from the law firm that was retained by

2140
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Speaker 1: the city manager and the mayor to figure out a

2141
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Speaker 1: reason to justify them placing Chief Thiji on administrative leave

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Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that she had got nothing

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Speaker 1: but glowing reviews over her what thirty five years as

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Speaker 1: a police officer. The Neville family well known in the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnai community as just wonderful folks. A history of law

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Speaker 1: enforcement they have, and seven ninety nine all over that

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Speaker 1: one man. She had a great write up in the

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Speaker 1: reaction to the release of the report, which really and

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Speaker 1: going to her point, in my point, when I first

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Speaker 1: read it, you got hundreds of police officers were one

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Speaker 1: hundred plus short, I might interject, but of the let's

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Speaker 1: say eight or nine hundred police officers we actually have.

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Speaker 1: The whole report was predicated on interviews with about thirty

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Speaker 1: of them, and it's filled with they believe they it

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Speaker 1: was their opinion that and I started off the morning

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Speaker 1: show just with this thought in mind. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there were very few, with the exception of sole proprietorships.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever worked for a business where the people

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Speaker 1: who run the show were always right in your mind

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Speaker 1: that you, as one of the frontline minions, didn't have

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Speaker 1: a better idea or a better way of doing something,

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Speaker 1: or that you didn't like the way they looked or

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Speaker 1: they just rubbed you the wrong way. Was the place

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Speaker 1: running okay? Yeah, but you had better ideas and you

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Speaker 1: could do it better. If someone came in later and

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Speaker 1: interviewed you about that. You might have all kinds of criticisms,

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Speaker 1: might you it's an opportunity. Now, I didn't like the

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Speaker 1: way he did. That's kind of what it sounds like

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Speaker 1: from this. It is a summary report. We don't have

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Speaker 1: actually the entire full report with all the details, and

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Speaker 1: the law firm just summarized it. So that's what we're

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Speaker 1: left to deal with, and probably, and I think more,

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Speaker 1: far more questions remain than were answered by it. Ultimately

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Speaker 1: they can that she shouldn't go back to work there,

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Speaker 1: which means if they don't bring her back. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: a brand new lawsuit from interim or rather on administrative

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Speaker 1: Leaf Police Chief dg A twenty five Right Now fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRCD Talk Station Signer ninety nine Podcast fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRC dot com.

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Speaker 11: You may not know this, but our next guest Hans

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Speaker 11: the state's biggest Easter egg hunt in his yard this year.

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Speaker 11: But instead of ags, you can find copies of the Constitution.

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Speaker 11: My favorite part is where the kids get to run

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Speaker 11: around for seventy six seconds before the hunt starts. It's

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Speaker 11: called the pre scramble. The judges next Chuck ingram on

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Speaker 11: fifty five krc the talk station.

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Speaker 1: Hey thirty about KRCD talk station and what the hell

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Speaker 1: that was about? Brian Thomas always pleased in this time

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Speaker 1: of day, very turn of every Wednesday here in the

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Speaker 1: fifty five Jersey Mornings. You're this time judge entered Apolitano.

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Speaker 1: It's great having you on. Very timing today judgment of

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Speaker 1: Politano because of the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a happy Easter too, with mister Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Right back at you. I know he would wish you

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Speaker 1: that same. And I was really interested in this free

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Speaker 1: speech because it's sort of mixed in with your op

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Speaker 1: ed piece or your comm which comes out tonight, which

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Speaker 1: I always point out I get early because I'm a

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Speaker 1: lucky man to get you on the show and to

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Speaker 1: get the op ed piece Er hope for the dead.

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Speaker 1: Roman government crucified Jesus because it feared that by claiming

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Speaker 1: to be the son of God he might foment a

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Speaker 1: political revolution. He was exercising his what he thought he

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Speaker 1: had free speech rights, which were was speech that ran

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Speaker 1: counter to the Roman government's philosophy that Roman the Emperor

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Speaker 1: was in fact God or the king anyway kind of

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Speaker 1: disrupted the social order. But if he lived in the

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Speaker 1: United States, Jesus Christ, he'd be able to say that

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Speaker 1: all day long. And of course the same goes in Colorado.

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Speaker 1: They imposed a ban on LGBTQ conversion therapy. In other words,

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Speaker 1: you weren't supposed to be be able to get a

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Speaker 1: psychiatrist or psychologist rendering care to a confused child. Was

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Speaker 1: not allowed to try to talk them out of believing

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Speaker 1: they were the opposite sex, or maybe talk them out

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Speaker 1: of the idea that they thought they were gay. No,

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Speaker 1: you're not gay, you like the opposite sect. And the

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Speaker 1: court said, no, that's free speech. You can't intrude on that.

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Speaker 1: And of course, the interesting thing is it was eight

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Speaker 1: to one. Elaina Kagan, which you think would go against this,

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Speaker 1: she pointed out the way you can't suppress one side

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Speaker 1: of the bait, you have to allow the others. So

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Speaker 1: the state could similarly not ban talk therapy designed to

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Speaker 1: a firm a minor's sexual ideology. It runs both ways.

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Speaker 1: Both sides can say what they want because of the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment.

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Speaker 4: Have I got that right right?

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Speaker 7: You have it one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 13: A terrific decision because it's not based on the social

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Speaker 13: policy of is it constitutional to change your It's based

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Speaker 13: on the First Amendment. It follows traditional jurisprudence, rule on

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Speaker 13: the narrowest issue possible, rule on the strictly constitutional issue,

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Speaker 13: rule on the words of the Constitution. So who is

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Speaker 13: the government to say to physicians? This may have even

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Speaker 13: applied to members of the clergy as well. You can

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Speaker 13: say certain things to your patient or penitent, but you

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Speaker 13: can't say certain other things. And how does the government

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Speaker 13: surveil these things? How does the government know what happens

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Speaker 13: in these private conversations. I mean, this is a can

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Speaker 13: of worms that Colorado opened up. And in my view,

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Speaker 13: the court absolutely did the right thing.

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Speaker 1: And so they remanded down to the lower court for

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Speaker 1: the application of what we call strict scrutiny. Right, you're

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Speaker 1: allowed to intrude on certain constitutional rights as long as

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Speaker 1: the law is there thoroughly tailored and is designed to

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Speaker 1: serve a government's significant interest that it's to be the

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Speaker 1: very narrowly tailed. They can't pass that standard on a

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Speaker 1: lower court here.

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Speaker 7: Now, No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 13: The government's need must be compelling. There's no compelling state

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Speaker 13: interest here, and the means used to address the compelling

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Speaker 13: state interest must be the least restrictive.

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Speaker 7: This is the opposite. This is not a compelling issue.

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Speaker 13: This is a social issue, apparently in Colorado, and the

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Speaker 13: means are not the least restrictive, they're the most restrictive.

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Speaker 13: So this thing is dead in the water. I was

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Speaker 13: surprised they sent it back for this analysis. I would

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Speaker 13: have just invalidated it. But again they're following very, very

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Speaker 13: traditional Supreme Court jurisprudence. If the issue was not raised

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Speaker 13: below strict scrutiny and least restrictive alternative, the losing side

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Speaker 13: should be given an opportunity to address it, even if

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Speaker 13: they lost to the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 7: So that's what they're thinking.

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Speaker 1: Was fair enough and pivoting over to today oral arguments

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Speaker 1: on basically, on the Fourteenth Amendment ratified after the Civil War,

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Speaker 1: all persons born are naturalized in the United States and

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Speaker 1: subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States.

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Speaker 1: In the aftermath of the slaves being freed, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: exclude them from being a citizen merely because their parents

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Speaker 1: were not citizens. Does this language confer us citizenship on

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Speaker 1: babies whose parents are in the country illegally or temporarily

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Speaker 1: judgent and of Polaitano. I'm of the mind that the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court's going to keep the status quo, which has

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Speaker 1: been around for one hundred and fifty or so years,

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Speaker 1: based on an early Supreme Court case involving a Chinese

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Speaker 1: a child of a Chinese immigrant family out in California.

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Speaker 1: I guess they came here to work on the railroad

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Speaker 1: or something. But the child was born in the United States,

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Speaker 1: asserted his right to citizenship, and the Court found it yes,

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Speaker 1: in fact, that man was a citizen. And do you

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Speaker 1: think that's going to change your honor.

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Speaker 13: No, I don't think it's going to change. I think

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Speaker 13: you're one hundred percent to correct. I am going to

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Speaker 13: look at the Chief Justice, Justice Gorsic, because I think

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Speaker 13: I know where Justice is Alito, Thomas, and Kavanaugh are,

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Speaker 13: and I think I know where Justice's Kagan, Barrett, and

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Speaker 13: Jackson are, but I don't know where the Chief and

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Speaker 13: Justice Gorsich are. And depending upon how aggressive their questioning

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Speaker 13: is and to whom that aggression is aimed, will give

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Speaker 13: us an indication of which way they're going to go.

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Speaker 13: But look, in all the interpretations of the Fourteenth Amendment,

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Speaker 13: only one said the person was not a citizen, and

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Speaker 13: that person was born on tribal lands at a time

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Speaker 13: when the tribes were considered a foreign country rather than

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Speaker 13: American citizens, and Congress corrected that with a statute. The

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Speaker 13: justice who wrote that opinion himself attempted to correct it

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Speaker 13: in a subsequent opinion. So the Trump administration really has

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Speaker 13: no solid jurisprudence.

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Speaker 7: On which the stand. You know what they've done.

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Speaker 13: They quoted some southern white racists in the post World

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Speaker 13: War two excuse me, in the post Civil War era

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Speaker 13: who said in state legislatures, it's reprehensible that they quoted

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Speaker 13: these people, but they did. We're voting for this because

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Speaker 13: it's limited to making former slaves into citizens. I mean,

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Speaker 13: this is going to land like a lead balloon in

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Speaker 13: my view. At the Supreme Court, it doesn't say all

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Speaker 13: persons formerly held in bondage. It says all persons, yes,

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Speaker 13: born in the United States, are citizens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way around the language. I'll agree with

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Speaker 1: you on that. And there seems to be some debate

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Speaker 1: over what subject to the jurisdiction thereof persons that that

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Speaker 1: somehow is a carve out or something. But I always

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Speaker 1: thought that that was meant for folks working in embassies.

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Speaker 1: You know, the embassy is getting the property is But

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Speaker 1: the Supreme.

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Speaker 7: Court has held that there's two carve outs.

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Speaker 13: One an invader, a female invader, or the spouse of

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Speaker 13: an invader who happens to give birth here during the invasion.

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Speaker 13: The baby's not an American citizens as far as I know,

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Speaker 13: that has never happened. At least if it has happened,

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Speaker 13: that person hasn't claimed citizenship and the courts haven't ruled

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Speaker 13: on that claim.

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Speaker 7: And then the other is an embassy worker.

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Speaker 13: Because they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the

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Speaker 13: United States government when they are on their embassy property.

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Speaker 7: Those are the only two exceptions.

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Speaker 13: The Trump administration says, well, if a mother comes across

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Speaker 13: the border just to give birth, she is not subject

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Speaker 13: to the jurisdiction of the government because her and the

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Speaker 13: baby's father are loyal to the.

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Speaker 7: Country from which they came.

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Speaker 13: This is not about loyalty, This is about who's subby

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Speaker 13: to the Are they subject to the jurist of the

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Speaker 13: US giving birth in an American hospital?

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Speaker 1: Of course they are right. And I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to say that, and I'm glad you brought up that

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Speaker 1: specific point because a lot of my listeners and even

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Speaker 1: I do not like the concept of birth tourism. There's

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Speaker 1: something nefarious about it. They have no intention of living here.

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Speaker 1: They're not looking for to become US citizens. The parents themselves.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Chinese Communist Party has a has provided

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Speaker 1: a facilitation for all of this. They come here with

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Speaker 1: the pregnant woman, they give birth, they hang out for

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Speaker 1: a few years of American education, they both go they

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Speaker 1: all go back to China. I supposed to get indoctrinated. Now,

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Speaker 1: what is the remedy for that? If that is in

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Speaker 1: fact a problem that's worthy of dealing with. Is this

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Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment to the fourteenth Amendment? Is it laws

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Speaker 1: that can be passed which would be argued to be unconstitutional?

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Speaker 1: How do you go about this?

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Speaker 13: The Supreme Court ruled in a case called po versus Texas,

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Speaker 13: in which the state of Texas enacted legislation that said,

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Speaker 13: if you're here illegally, you are not entitled to free education,

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Speaker 13: you are not entitled to welfare. You are not even

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Speaker 13: entitled to go into emergency rooms. You have no rights,

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Speaker 13: no entitlements whatsoever. That that law was never enforced, it

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Speaker 13: was enjoined by a federal judge, and the Supreme Court

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Speaker 13: basically said, if you give your citizens these basic social

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Speaker 13: safety net standards.

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Speaker 7: You have to give them to everybody.

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Speaker 13: That would have to be changed, and it can only

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Speaker 13: be changed by a constitutional amendment. So when there is

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Speaker 13: no longer a financial incentive for birth tourism, birth tourism

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Speaker 13: will go way.

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Speaker 1: Down, fair enough? Well, are you and I are eyed

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Speaker 1: eye on that one too?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, lot, I understand. I understand how people are.

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Speaker 13: Aggravated at birth tourism and rejoiced in President Trump's executive

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Speaker 13: order and hopes that he prevails. You know, the other

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Speaker 13: issue is, I don't even know if they're going to

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Speaker 13: address this. The president is not in the business of

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Speaker 13: bring the constitution only the courts are.

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Speaker 1: Well, just because he wants it, and just because he

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Speaker 1: issues an executi voter doesn't mean that's the final word

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Speaker 1: on it as which is why they're going to be

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Speaker 1: arguing this in the Supreme Court this morning or today, correct,

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Speaker 1: And you.

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Speaker 13: Know he's going to be there seated in the first row.

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Speaker 13: I don't think that's going to affect the outcome.

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Speaker 1: No, it won't.

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Speaker 13: But the last time a president was in the Supreme

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Speaker 13: Court was before he was president, Richard Nixon when he

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Speaker 13: was a private lawyer, after he left a vice presidency,

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Speaker 13: after he was defeated for president, after he was defeated

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Speaker 13: for governor California, moved to New York and practiced law,

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Speaker 13: and he argued a very famous case called Time against Hill.

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Speaker 13: It's a very famous defamation case. He lost the case,

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Speaker 13: but he gave what is known to law students and

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Speaker 13: lawyers as a brilliant oral argument. But he was not

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Speaker 13: the president. He was about to become the president.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not remembered for that though, your honor, No,

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Speaker 1: he's not.

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Speaker 7: Not at all.

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Speaker 1: I know you are a devoutly religious man of the

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Speaker 1: Catholic faith, and it's obviously came through very clearly in

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Speaker 1: your op ed piece, which all encourage my listeners to

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Speaker 1: get a copy of it. It's a caption hope for

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Speaker 1: the Dead. I just wanted with that predict, I want

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Speaker 1: to wish you a very happy Easter. I know you'll

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Speaker 1: be celebrating the on Sunday, and I hope you have

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Speaker 1: great weather. I hope you and your loved ones all

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Speaker 1: have a fantastic time.

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Speaker 13: And we thank you and the same to you and

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Speaker 13: to Ingram, and to Streker and to the young man

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Speaker 13: that fills them for Streker and to your family.

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Speaker 1: Send to your listeners, thank you your honorable talk next week.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your holiday weekend, sir, Thank you, Brian, all the best,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. It's a forty two right now, fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRC DE talk station.

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