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Speaker 1: Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Tuesday afternoon

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Speaker 1: in the tri State that brutal temperatures remain. I could

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Speaker 1: use a little bit of global warming right about now.

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Speaker 1: You may recall in November we had someone on from

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Speaker 1: the Farmer's Almanac who said that he thought winter was

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Speaker 1: going to be terrible awful. No one snickered. I know,

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Speaker 1: Brian Hammrick of the power of five snickered. We've not

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Speaker 1: had a bad winner for a long time. But this

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Speaker 1: is making up for everything. The next week or ten

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Speaker 1: days will be below zero as a low, and the

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Speaker 1: highs only in the teens in the twenties will see

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Speaker 1: what happens in about ten days. But until then, because

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Speaker 1: of all the snow and other activities, a case has

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Speaker 1: gone below the radar. That is the sentencing of three

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Speaker 1: of the four individuals who stole a car in Edgewood,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky that ultimately resulted in the murder of Deputy Sheriff

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Speaker 1: Larry Henderson while doing duty at the UC graduation ceremony.

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Speaker 1: And I vaguely recall something I read a few weeks

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Speaker 1: ago about this sentencing of the three that are alive

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Speaker 1: and well. Jarrell Austin who's eighteen. The Anthony Bullock's nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Sincere that's the first name Sincere Grigsby is eighteen. And

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Speaker 1: I wanted to catch up with Brian Hamlet and see

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Speaker 1: what happened in those cases, because it appears city councils

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Speaker 1: about to give the family of Ryan Hinton and a

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Speaker 1: wrongful discharge by a cop of his weapon, maybe one

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Speaker 1: to two million dollars plus. The father, Rodney Hinton, is

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Speaker 1: right now up for a trial. He won't be eligible

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Speaker 1: eligible for the death penalty because of his mental condition,

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Speaker 1: but likely he's going to be I would think convicted

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Speaker 1: and serve the rest of his life in jail, but

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Speaker 1: that's down the road too. So oddly, the family of

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Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton, which is also the family of Rodney Hinton,

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Speaker 1: the father who murdered Larry Henderson, likely is going to

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Speaker 1: get millions of dollars because of city council, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Every time I bring this up to a police officer.

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Speaker 1: It could be in marymant It could be in Green Township,

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Speaker 1: could be in northern Kentucky. They get outraged that someone

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Speaker 1: who murdered a police officer his family is going to

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Speaker 1: be Enrich of to two to millions of dollars. A man

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Speaker 1: with the update is Brian Hammrick of the Power of five.

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Speaker 1: I know you've been working the slopes, You've been working hard.

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Speaker 1: All the skiing going on and all the snow going on.

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Speaker 1: This is catastrophe. I know you've been to Kroger recently.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing left on the shelf like in the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, Brian Hamrick, welcome to the Bill

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Speaker 1: Cunningham Show, and briefly give us an update. Let the

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Speaker 1: American people be reminded about what happened in April thirtieth

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Speaker 1: in Edgewood, Kentucky and how that resulted in the murder

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Speaker 1: of Larry Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well thanks again, mister Cunningham. Yeah. So what we've

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Speaker 2: got here, we've got these there were four of them,

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Speaker 2: and it was just like we've seen in a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of these cases, guys carrying guns going into the neighborhoods,

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Speaker 2: taking the cars. They take off in his car and

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Speaker 2: then the police catch up with them. And when they do,

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Speaker 2: we've all seen that video, they get out of the

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Speaker 2: car and uh, you know, no matter where you come

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Speaker 2: down on this thing, the end at the end result

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Speaker 2: was Ryan Hinton was dead police they picked up a gun,

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Speaker 2: threatened him, and they shot him to death. Uh, but

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Speaker 2: he ended up dead Inness the other three took off.

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Speaker 2: They ended up getting those guys in the elect couple

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Speaker 2: of days. Well, it turns out these guys have all

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Speaker 2: been in trouble before. I'm not exactly sure what Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hinton's background was, but whatever it was, he was hanging

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Speaker 2: around at least with these other three guys who had

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Speaker 2: who had been doing this exact same kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: playing with guns, uh and said at times some of

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Speaker 2: them were either in the car with people that are

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Speaker 2: shooting at other people, had shot at other people, stolen

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Speaker 2: car cases on some of their records. So these guys,

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Speaker 2: this is these are some of the people that we've

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Speaker 2: been dealing with, you know, that had been stealing cars

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Speaker 2: and on and taking off, and they're trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out who they are. Well, they find them and it's

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Speaker 2: in this thing because I'm sure these kids eighteen the

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Speaker 2: oldest is nineteen years old, but we're just stealing cars.

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Speaker 2: So what you know, Yeah, we got guns, but all

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Speaker 2: my buddies have guns.

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Speaker 3: You know, we all.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this music that tells us we should have guns. Drugs,

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Speaker 2: kill the cops, beat the women, you know that. And

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Speaker 2: so they're they're out, and I'm sure in their wildest

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Speaker 2: like this. However it did. Because when you're carrying guns

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Speaker 2: and you go out and you're confronting police, anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: In this case, it did, and Ryan Hinton ends up dead.

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Speaker 2: And then, of course the spin off from that is

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Speaker 2: when his dad sees the body cam video, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: believe it's done. Shunk should have been shot to death

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Speaker 2: to what he saw. He gets upset about it, out

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Speaker 2: of his mind. According to Well, the three people said

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Speaker 2: he had a mental illness, and Clyde Bennett's going to

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Speaker 2: try and prove that he was not in his right

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Speaker 2: mind when he ran over Deputy Larry Henderson. Oxecutors stipulated

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Speaker 2: to the point that he had a mental illness. But

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Speaker 2: they are going to try him for this other part

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Speaker 2: of it. They're going to try and get him life

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Speaker 2: in prison without parole. But this whole chain of events

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Speaker 2: was set off by these four kids going and stealing

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Speaker 2: this car. Well, the other day two of them pleaded guilty.

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Speaker 2: Sincere Griggsby pleaded guilty, and they dropped a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of weapons charges. I think they kept an obstructing charge

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Speaker 2: on him, and they sentenced him to It was community

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Speaker 2: service that they sentenced him to community and so now

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Speaker 2: it's community service. And Griggsby, he had already less than

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Speaker 2: a year year before that, had been in a stolen

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Speaker 2: car case before. I don't even think they had adjudicated

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Speaker 2: that case yet. And then he was in a vehicle

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Speaker 2: with someone who shot and hit a man in a

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Speaker 2: car with children in the car, so shooting. He was

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Speaker 2: hanging around with some other dangerous people who didn't mind

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Speaker 2: firing off guns. That was already happening. He gets back

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Speaker 2: in another car, it happens again. Somebody gets killed in

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Speaker 2: this case. But he's out on community service now. The

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Speaker 2: other guy, the Anthony bullets, he's nineteen years old. He

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Speaker 2: pleaded guilty to obstructing justice, multiple charges, including seft of

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Speaker 2: the car, all these firearms charges, including weapons under disability,

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Speaker 2: which meant he had had guns before got caught with it.

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Speaker 2: Was doing things that he wasn't supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 2: He gets ten months in jail, and his records show

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Speaker 2: that he had at least two passed charges involving cars. Now,

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Speaker 2: the third guy, Darrell Austin, he was expected to plead

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Speaker 2: guilty the other day. I'm not sure exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen. They're going to take him in front

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Speaker 2: of the same judge, Katie Cash. She's the one who

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Speaker 2: sentenced the others and she's the one who's gonna see

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Speaker 2: his case, and that's coming up February second. But Darrell Austin,

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Speaker 2: he'll have charges facing related to the stolen car. He

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Speaker 2: has weapons, but he has accusations that he shot somebody

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Speaker 2: in a previous case, shot across a road or something

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Speaker 2: like that and hit someone. I think that person survived.

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Speaker 2: But here's the Anthony bullets. He gets. His sentence was

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Speaker 2: it was ten months in jail, but he's getting credit

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Speaker 2: for two hundred and some days serve, so he won't

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Speaker 2: spending much time, if any, in jail, actually any more

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Speaker 2: than he's spent in jail. The other guy gets out

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Speaker 2: with community service in tense parole. We don't know what

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Speaker 2: the third guy's going to end up getting, But these

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Speaker 2: guys all have a lengthy record as you can see.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's going to happen when they get

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Speaker 2: out now, said, the story will be if their futures

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Speaker 2: in front of them or if their past.

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Speaker 1: Is well, they're not honorall students. And the other thing

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Speaker 1: about dismissing the gun speck, Ohio has a little gun

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Speaker 1: spec that says if while committing some other offense, such

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Speaker 1: as stealing a car, you're in possession of a firearm,

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Speaker 1: you get an additional three years in prison. So they

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Speaker 1: had to dismiss the spec in order to give them probation.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, according to that. If you know, none of

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Speaker 2: them got, like I said, anymore. And with county jail.

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Speaker 2: The one got the ten months, the bullets got ten

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Speaker 2: months in jail, and it's in the county jail. They

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Speaker 2: didn't go to prison.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: And and you know it makes you wonder about, you know,

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Speaker 2: will there be some way to get these these kids' attention?

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Speaker 2: You know, you would think happened when your buddy shot

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Speaker 2: to death in front of you all this might have

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Speaker 2: an effect, but you know it hasn't so far. They've

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Speaker 2: been through the juvenile system and it hasn't had an effect,

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Speaker 2: and now we're going to basically it's a slap on

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Speaker 2: the wrist is what it's been.

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Speaker 1: Well with Ryan Hinton. The family's outrage because the video,

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Speaker 1: which I've seen five or ten different times, it's blurry.

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Speaker 1: It's obvious he had the gun. He had the gun

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Speaker 1: with him to steal the car in Edgewood, Kentucky. He

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Speaker 1: then brings it back here everyone, it's a fire drill.

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Speaker 1: When they corral the guy, he reaches into the car,

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Speaker 1: pulls out the gun again. He then drops the gun.

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Speaker 1: He picks up the gun the third time. The intentions

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Speaker 1: what you can say other than in the good old days,

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Speaker 1: all three of these guys would have got serious time

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Speaker 1: in the penitentiary. Is enough, stop what you're doing. But

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Speaker 1: in today's criminal justice system that's not the case. And

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Speaker 1: that's why this mandatory sentencing, because the lawmakers and Columbus

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Speaker 1: say to liberal judges, look, we're going to handcuff you

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Speaker 1: a little bit that if you commit this offense, you

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Speaker 1: laws they have five years on a gun spec I

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Speaker 1: could not think of a clear example of individuals possessing

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Speaker 1: the chain of events they started Deputy Shriff Larry Henderson

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Speaker 1: is dead. And the good old days that would have been, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're going to throw the book at these guys. That's

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Speaker 1: not the way it works today.

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Speaker 4: Is it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it isn't working like that apparently in this case.

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they think these these kids can be turnaround,

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Speaker 2: you know, rehabilitated. They're very turn around at the same time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's but you know, even if you're if

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Speaker 2: you're against those you know, long term things, you know

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Speaker 2: there's sentence and mandatory sentences. Well, this is the kind

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Speaker 2: of case that should really, you know, get under your

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Speaker 2: skin because you know, this is the kind of thing

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Speaker 2: that exactly what happens that gives the fuel to the

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Speaker 2: folks that want those mandatory sentences. This isn't exactly why

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Speaker 2: they're doing it, you know, And so yes, it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's I think it's disturbing for people you know, who

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Speaker 2: you know want to see something happen in terms of

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Speaker 2: getting the you know, the violence, taking care of and

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Speaker 2: putting the lid on it. And it's uh, it's just

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Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's no good answer for it.

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Speaker 2: But when you see it keeps happening over and over

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Speaker 2: and over again. Like you said, there are folks that

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Speaker 2: are going to make laws and try and you know,

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Speaker 2: get ahead of that. And that's why that's what we're

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Speaker 2: seeing happen and uh, and we're seeing it because of

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Speaker 2: instances just like this. Two people end up dead with kids,

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I'm gonna know the permission Brian

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Speaker 1: bring criminal charges against either to Anthony Bullocks, Darrell Austin,

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Speaker 1: or Sincere Grigsby in Kenton County if he can prove who'

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Speaker 1: stole the car. His original interpretation, off the top of

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Speaker 1: his head is that one person stole the car, and

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Speaker 1: that was that was Bullocks, and he picked up the

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Speaker 1: other crew Austin, Griggsby and Hinton later and that resulted,

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Speaker 1: of course, in the in the killing of Ryan Hinton,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, Connie Pillage, the County Prosecutor's Office

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Speaker 1: said it was justified considering all the circumstances, it was justified.

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Speaker 1: And in this case, Ryan Hinton knew he possessed a

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Speaker 1: handgun right it was in his possession. Two, when he

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Speaker 1: exited the vehicle at a high rate of speed, physically

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Speaker 1: he took the gun with him. That was a conscious decision. Three,

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Speaker 1: At some point, within one or two steps away from

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Speaker 1: the vehicle, he dropped the handgun and then he picked

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Speaker 1: it back up. That's four ran between the dumpster and

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Speaker 1: according to the County Prosecutor's Office County Pillage, she said

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Speaker 1: there was available evidence to indicate that Ryan Hinton pointed

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Speaker 1: the gun at the police officer in uniform, of course,

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Speaker 1: threatening to murder him in cold blood, and in response

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Speaker 1: CPD fired a weapon, killing Ryan Hinton. Now the Ryan Hinton.

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Speaker 1: Family's all angry, including Rodney Hinton, the father. And it's

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Speaker 1: a mistake to do this, I'll mention it, but it's

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Speaker 1: the way things are done today that within twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours Prosecutor's office met and the CPD, I think it

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Speaker 1: was CPD mainly met with the family of Ryan Hinton,

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Speaker 1: including Rodney Hinton, the thirty eight year old father of

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Speaker 1: the eighteen year old, showing them the video with the

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Speaker 1: had and he got so angry that he wanted to

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Speaker 1: kill a police officer. And I would assume he wanted

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Speaker 1: to kill a Cincinnati police officer. But he found himself

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Speaker 1: in and around the UC campus and he targeted his

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Speaker 1: vehicle to a high rate of speed into the body

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Speaker 1: of Deputy Larry Henderson, murdering him in cold blood, targeting him.

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Speaker 1: And I've had problems, I've handled, along with many others,

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Speaker 1: a lot of NGRI defenses, and normally it don't work

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Speaker 1: because it's yours. Don't buy the idea that someone like

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hinton Junior, who was thirty eight years old, positioned

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Speaker 1: himself in a way consciously to kill a particular person,

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Speaker 1: intending the death. He drove there. I assume stopped at

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Speaker 1: stop lights, started his vehicle and lined it up, stopped

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Speaker 1: at stop signs, and was cognizant of the circumstances around

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Speaker 1: him and specifically intended the logical consequences of his behavior

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Speaker 1: when he murdered Larry Henderson. And at this point to

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Speaker 1: Judge Jodi Lubers, who, by the way, Judge Lubers is

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Speaker 1: a good judge, a good female judge, even though she's

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Speaker 1: a Democrat. Judge Lubris is a good judge. She followed

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Speaker 1: the law and took the death penalty off the table

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Speaker 1: because of her previous mental illness that Rodney Hinton had

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Speaker 1: and was treated for. And so the worst he can

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Speaker 1: get his life imprisonment without possibility of parole. So that's

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Speaker 1: down the road, that's where we are. And so I

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Speaker 1: anticipate tomorrow having on Rob Sanders to talk about what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen in Kenton County on this matter. Because

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Speaker 1: he thought off the top of his head, they had

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Speaker 1: an unserved warrant on to Anthony Bullock's nineteen years old.

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Speaker 1: By now he might be twenty. And according to according

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Speaker 1: to the inquir and according to Brian Hamrick, that the

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Speaker 1: three of them received little or no punishment commensurate with

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Speaker 1: the crime they committed. So stealing cars today, rolling around

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood, committing numerous offenses in these vehicles, then trashing

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Speaker 1: them or crashing them for fun, using them in other

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Speaker 1: criminal offenses in today's world is not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of not a big deal in Hamley County. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the judge and the sentencing was Judge

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Speaker 1: Katie Cash. Judge Katie Cash, and I don't know why

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Speaker 1: she gave the sentences. Maybe it was agreed upon, it

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Speaker 1: was a plead deal. Normally those things happened behind closed

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Speaker 1: doors with counsel, with the prosecutor's office and the judge.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens to that down the road. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: getting back to Alex Pretty, CNN reported about an hour

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Speaker 1: ago that to Alex Pretty, the thirty seven year old

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Speaker 1: VA nurse that was killed by ice a week earlier

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Speaker 1: previous to the event, confronted Ice officials in another circumstance

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Speaker 1: and had his rib broken. According to CNN, the earlier

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Speaker 1: incident started when Pretty stopped his car when he watched

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Speaker 1: Ice agents chasing on foot what appeared to be an immigrant,

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Speaker 1: and he stopped his car, got out, ran over to

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Speaker 1: the police, began shouting at them, video recording them, and

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Speaker 1: blowing his whistle. According to a source who asked not

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Speaker 1: to be named out of fear of retribution. So at

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Speaker 1: that point Pretty told the later told that source that

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Speaker 1: agents tackled him, tried to keep him from interfering with

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Speaker 1: the arrest, and the encounter left him with a broken rib.

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Speaker 1: And at that point his name was taken, and there

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Speaker 1: was a form created of this protester who had become violent.

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Speaker 1: His name was Pretty, Alex Pretty a week earlier, and

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Speaker 1: he was let go. I can only assume at that point,

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Speaker 1: if he was let go and his name was taken,

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Speaker 1: that they searched him and it was not in possession

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Speaker 1: of the weapon at that point, the three twenty sixth hour,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, has a checkered pass. We'll getting

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Speaker 1: into that in a moment. And so this was a

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Speaker 1: person who'd previously done pretty much exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 1: According to CNN, Pretty's name was well known to federal agents,

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Speaker 1: though it's unclear whether the new intake form was used

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Speaker 1: to share the information. It is not clear at this point,

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Speaker 1: sitting here at twelve fifty one pm on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: whether the federal agents who encountered pretty on Saturday morning

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Speaker 1: recognized him as the person they previously confronted, eventually wrestling

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Speaker 1: him to the ground and taking a gun from his waistband,

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Speaker 1: then fatally shooting him. Now there's been other reporting. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that maybe later on. As you know, six

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Speaker 1: hour is a weapon, a choice of many expert gunmen, marksman,

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Speaker 1: it's a good weapon. The Great American has a P.

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Speaker 1: Two thirty eight. I have a P. Nine thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: I love six hour. But this particular brand, the three twenty,

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Speaker 1: has a history of unintentional discharges, and there's been well

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Speaker 1: over one hundred lawsuits filed in which the three twenty,

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Speaker 1: with the safety on which is internal, that has discharges

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Speaker 1: resulting in injury and debt to others. If you listen

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Speaker 1: to the audio, which I'm sure many have, if you're interested,

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Speaker 1: there's one shot fired, then about a second later there's

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Speaker 1: a fuselage going his way. That weapon, that three twenty

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Speaker 1: six hour, three twenty nine millimeter, is in possession of

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Speaker 1: the FBI as we sit here. They surely know if

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Speaker 1: it's been fired. They know, and they've recovered the weapon itself. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the projectile won if it was

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Speaker 1: fired unintentionally. They may not have that at all. It

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Speaker 1: may be gone, but I would think there's available proof

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Speaker 1: that would indicate whether that weapon had recently been fired,

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Speaker 1: was it an unintentional discharge. Then within a second thereafter,

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Speaker 1: a fuselage hit the body of Alex Preddy. But number

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Speaker 1: one he was He broke a rib in confrontation with

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Speaker 1: federal authorities a week before he was killed. When you

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Speaker 1: play stupid games, you get stupid results. I could not

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Speaker 1: imagine rolling around the streets of any major American city

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching a police operation underway actively and I

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Speaker 1: get out of my car, run over and get between

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Speaker 1: the police and the person they're seeking the assailant. I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine doing that. But in Minneapolis that's a regular event.

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Speaker 1: There's one or two thousand part of this signal Chat

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Speaker 1: group that are organized to interfere, to obstruct, to delay,

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Speaker 1: hinder the law enforcement and the performance of their duties.

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Speaker 1: Including on the day that Pretty was killed, they were

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Speaker 1: looking for a different person who ran into a donut

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Speaker 1: shop and the patrons inside the donut shop locked the door,

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Speaker 1: so the agents couldn't get in. And later on, within

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Speaker 1: about another couple of minutes, they encountered Alex Pretty and

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Speaker 1: you saw on video what happened. So let's continue with more.

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Speaker 1: And the President just got on a helicopter marine Ie

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Speaker 1: indicating that the job of Christy known me is safe

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Speaker 1: at this point. And uh, and I think it's obvious

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Speaker 1: that whether it's whether it's a director of Homeland Security

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Speaker 1: or Steven Miller, without knowing all the facts which are

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Speaker 1: now being developed, you can't call him a terrorist or

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Speaker 1: an assassin or a mass murderer until more facts are known.

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Speaker 1: Those things might be true down the road. But here

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Speaker 1: we are a week later finding out that Pretty had

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Speaker 1: confrontation with ICE a week previous to his killing. Did

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Speaker 1: the the ICE agents know this is the same guy

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Speaker 1: a week before that jumped in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: police operation to stop which is a federal felony, the

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Speaker 1: arrest of a of a gang banger. Uh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: to be determined. Let's continue with more coming up next

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Speaker 1: to Dan Hills, He's going to break down when is

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Speaker 1: proper use of force allowed and when it is not allowed?

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Speaker 1: Why deadly force can be used and cannot be used?

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Speaker 1: Plus more let's continue. I hope everyone calms down a

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Speaker 1: little bit and understanding that law enforcement must do its

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Speaker 1: job and the place to resolve disputes is in court,

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Speaker 1: is not to have private citizens interfering with police operations

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Speaker 1: as they're ongoing. Twelve fifty five home a year Bengals

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Speaker 1: is Radio seven hundred, Woo my Billy cutting him the

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Speaker 1: Great American. Of course, what's happened, what's happening in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: is starting to metastasize. Some on the right have said,

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Speaker 1: what's happening now is exactly what was intended to have

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Speaker 1: sympathetic victims who were lolled into thinking they were in

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Speaker 1: some fantasy land pursuing some sort of attack on law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: And then once again there's been there's been a killing.

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Speaker 1: I do not claim it to be a murder. I

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Speaker 1: can claim it to be a killing of thirty seven

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Speaker 1: year old Alex Pretty who serves as an RN in

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Speaker 1: a VET facility Veterans Hospital Facility and Joan you now

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hills, sergeant retired, spent thirty five years on

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Speaker 1: the main streets of a major American city. He was

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Speaker 1: a union reps president of an FOP also runs frontline advisors.

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Speaker 1: Also use of force is what he specializes and along

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Speaker 1: with representing of cops and union difficulties and Sergeant Dan

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Speaker 1: Hills retired, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And so,

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Speaker 1: first of all, take us through, as an experienced line

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Speaker 1: police officer what you saw as far as the use

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Speaker 1: of force by Alex pretty on Saturday morning. Give me

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Speaker 1: a full report.

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Speaker 3: Well, Willie, there's parts that are missing. And of course

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Speaker 3: that's the thing. We all start commenting on these cases

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Speaker 3: before we really know the whole story. The left hands

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Speaker 3: it's narrative, the right hands its narrative. You know, from

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Speaker 3: what I saw the video, it would make things hard

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Speaker 3: to judge just on that video or the videos that

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Speaker 3: are already out all on its own. And one thing that

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Speaker 3: gets left out all the time when we look at

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Speaker 3: these videos when we do our Monday morning quarterbacking, and

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Speaker 3: you know that is, of course one of the best

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Speaker 3: analogies when we're talking about use of force is talking

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Speaker 3: about Monday morning quarterbacking, because it's something that we all do.

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Speaker 3: We're football fans. You know, I heard a new analogy

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Speaker 3: today or read it today talking about how the rests

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Speaker 3: might not see something they didn't see a face mask

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Speaker 3: I saw earlier today, And you're like, could they not

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Speaker 3: see that face mask? And we'll make that demand on

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Speaker 3: a referee, and then we make even a greater demand

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Speaker 3: on police officers. You know, from what I saw, the

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Speaker 3: gun that is in question was already removed when I

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Speaker 3: heard the shot fired. But does that mean that officers

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Speaker 3: saw it? Of course not. They're in some sort of

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Speaker 3: tunnel vision, they're being hit with an adrenaline dump. They're

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Speaker 3: in a wrestling match. Again, I don't know all the

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Speaker 3: origins of the wrestling match. And then the one officer

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Speaker 3: sees a gun offull. Obviously somebody saw a gun because

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Speaker 3: one of the officers great had his gun, and then

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Speaker 3: we get we get all filter on all these different topics.

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Speaker 3: It's funny not to go right right into right and left.

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Speaker 3: It's it's great to have somebody that tries to speak

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Speaker 3: just about the facts. But they kept bringing up, the

644
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: media kept bringing up that he was he had a

645
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: he had had a gun license. What doesn't matter whether

646
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: somebody has a license gun or not license gun. If

647
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I feel this gun as a

648
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: threat to me, and all we knew at the time

649
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: or when I say we am speaking in the in

650
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: the for the police officers, all we knew is that

651
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: there was somebody that was resisting an arrest, that was

652
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: struggling with fosters, and I heard another offer stay gone

653
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: because somebody saw a gun. And so then what the

654
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: courts would say is that it's about the perception of

655
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: a reasonable offer on the scene. And look, that's it's

656
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: that's a pretty reasonable thing. If I'm wrestling with somebody

657
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: that is resisting arrest, quite often it is my experience

658
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: that's somebody as resisting may even decide to do you harm.

659
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: And one of my partners, one of my co workers,

660
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: is yelling gun maybe on seeing the suspect reach. We

661
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: don't know what the perceptions of the officers all is,

662
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 3: and that is one of the most important things. Look,

663
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: video video is cool because video gives us pieces of evidence,

664
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: but it's not everything, and the public wants to absorb

665
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: it like, oh, the video means everything. Unlike the NFL.

666
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: What's one of the things that's most important isn't a

667
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: video evidence. It's the memories and the perceptions of the

668
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: officer at the time. And yes, they can be quite

669
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: different than video. This is what I know from my

670
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: experience of thirty five years and still counting as I

671
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: work part time. Is that what you experience and what

672
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: you he and video afterwards are often all sorts of

673
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: differences apart right.

674
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: And Sergan Dan. I would add one other factor this

675
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: morning in one of the shows. It was pointed out

676
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: by Secretary Nome. This is an ancillary matter. It's not

677
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: critical one way or another. But the person involved in

678
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: this case, who sadly was killed, was not legally carrying

679
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: a gun, and I thought, well, I thought he had

680
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: a permit. You point out why permit or not? You know,

681
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: the officers didn't know he had a permit or not.

682
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: But in Minnesota, I'll share with you the statute quote.

683
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: The holder of a permit to carry must have the

684
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: permit card and a driver's license, State ID or other

685
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: government issued photo identification in his immediate possession at all

686
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: times when carrying a pistol, and must display the permit

687
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: card an ID document upon lawful requests. So even though

688
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: he was issued, this is a point made by Secretary Nome,

689
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: it's an ancillary matter because legally or illegally carry a

690
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: gun as far as his shooting going to make an difference, and.

691
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: We're getting we get lost in an en You know.

692
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: What difference does that make?

693
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: It really doesn't make any difference. Like I said, I'm

694
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: going to protect myself from somebody that's legally carrying a

695
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: gun or illegally carrying a gun. If you know, look,

696
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: some of this stuff is so simple that we lose it.

697
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: Is somebody scared and is it reasonably that they're scared

698
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: for their life? And that's what the courts have determined.

699
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: You know, it used to be you could shoot at

700
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: slinging felons, but but that's that's no more. And what

701
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: the court said is, you know, when you can use

702
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: deadly force is when you're in fear of your life,

703
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: or in the fear of your partner's life, or in

704
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 3: the fear of a citizens life and in danger that

705
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: in other words, in moments and of course this wrestling

706
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: match we're talking about within moments, uh this this this

707
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: person could have taken that gun. And if there was

708
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: a perception alter that was about to happen. Whether now

709
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: we look back at the character of the man and

710
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: we did that going to reach out the gun, we

711
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: don't we don't have that time and space for that

712
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: to happen. But will you know this is this, this

713
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: is all intended. This is all intended. So when these

714
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 3: things will happen, the more confrontations, the more things will happen.

715
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: You know, we we we talk about awful but lawful, right.

716
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: I think I might have heard you say it once before, awful,

717
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: awful but lawful. There is going to be awful things

718
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: when you keep pushing people to protest in manners that

719
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: are illegal and dangerous, blocking streets, blocking roadways. And again

720
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what mister Pritty was doing beforehand. I

721
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: know miss good was what what was doing? Some stuff?

722
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: Blocking the roadway? Uh, driving in a manner that made

723
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: that offer think that he was about to get ran over.

724
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: But the more the last here, I'm gonna give a

725
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: little political The more the left is pushing for these

726
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: things that happen, the more tragedy will happen. And I

727
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: think that's what they want, and.

728
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: They do want that because politically they're going to take

729
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: advantage of it. The video evidence to me indicates that

730
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: the shooting was not demanded, but that it's understand I understand.

731
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: To me, it's certainly understood that why ICE's argument is

732
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: a good one in both cases, but especially in the

733
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: good case in which an officer was injured. But nonetheless,

734
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Speaker 1: a CNN this morning and some of the talk shows

735
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: broke down the video in one tenth of a second interval,

736
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Speaker 1: and it was assumed that all six officers had complete

737
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: knowledge one tenth of a second into the deal that

738
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: one officer probably had possession of his weapon, which was

739
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Speaker 1: a P three twenty six hour, and one tenth of

740
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: a second later a shot was fired. Now I'm thinking,

741
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Speaker 1: did all the officers know that the officer had in

742
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: one tenth of a second the P three twenty six hour?

743
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: Do we assume looking at this with our popcorn and

744
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: a beer, everybody knows exactly what happened. What if you're

745
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: on top of someone, someone shouting gun, gun, gun, and

746
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: you see a gun. Whose hand is it in? I

747
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: don't know? And what did the gun accidentally discharge? I

748
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: got information today that indicates it may have been accidentally discharged,

749
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: but I don't know that either. It's the investigation, but

750
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: CNN ms now have already determined that because Ice had

751
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: possession of a gun one tenth of a second before

752
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: the first shot was fired that makes it a bad shoot?

753
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: Is that true?

754
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: No, that's not true at all. It's no, actually, because

755
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: it's it's there is it's not even in the possibilities

756
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: of human perception and reaction and ability to always be

757
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: able to do these things. And it takes more than

758
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: a tenth of a second. It takes it takes between

759
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 3: a half second and a full second sometimes to perceive something,

760
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 3: to realize it, and then to change your your your

761
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: your operation of what your your hands were doing because

762
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: of what your mind had told you quarters of the

763
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: second before. But a tenth of the second is incredibly ridiculous.

764
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: It's just not reality. They don't. They don't.

765
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: They expect some.

766
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: Sort of, like you said, frame by frame decision making

767
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: in real life. And I guess I wish they would

768
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: go back and spend more more time watching NFL games

769
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: and realizing, hey, when life isn't even life and death

770
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: is even in the cards. We see that people are

771
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: making mistakes. They can't they can't pull back that payoff

772
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: even though they've seen the cornerback cut in front of

773
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: their wide receiver. They've seen it, but I was already

774
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: in the passing motion. And when unable to stop and

775
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: still let go of the ball. But because of the

776
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 3: limits of human ability, they go ahead and they throw

777
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: that pass and then you get a pick six, right, Well,

778
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 3: a pick six is an awful thing if you're if

779
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: it's not your team that that that that got to

780
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: pick six, but it's not nowhere as serious as its

781
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: potentially losing your life as a law enforcement officer. And

782
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: so here we are, we're staging this, we're setting this

783
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: which started back when they let what twenty million people

784
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: into the country illegally, And now we set out the demonstrators,

785
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 3: feel good people that think that they're helping the third world,

786
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 3: folks that should have never been here. And then when

787
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 3: these confrontations are happening, and bad things will happen in

788
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: a small percentage of these cases, bad things will happen.

789
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 3: And then they then they're attacking law enforcement. There is

790
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: no way that the US government can back down on this.

791
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: There is no law in order if they back down

792
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: on this, and and and they know it, they're they're

793
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: they're putting him, They're putting the president and in the

794
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: hardest spot possible all for what willly for politics for

795
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: the mid terms the power place. Here are are are

796
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: are awful, and I hate to always always be on

797
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 3: the right. Sometimes I'm not ninety percent of the time.

798
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: I am that the people who are doing this are

799
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: are very low moral soaks. The people in the media,

800
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: the elected officials in Minnesota that are are are pittany

801
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: soaks at each other and putting our federal law enforcement.

802
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: I think I heard the governor say the other day

803
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 3: that these aren't these aren't law enforcement officers, These aren't cops.

804
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: No, they're gang members of Gestapo, all that kind of stuff,

805
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: that they're the worst of the worst. And so you've

806
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: been a cop that's been vilified and now you're kind

807
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: of drinking the wine and the kind of semi retired.

808
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: But the law generally is you've got to put yourself

809
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: and the shoes of the officer who fired the weapon.

810
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: What would a reasonable officer perceive at that moment when

811
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: the bullet leaves the end of his gun as far

812
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: as the danger to himself or others, and that second

813
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: get The Supreme Court ruled as recently as last year

814
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: nine to oher that that's the standard. Did those officers

815
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: have reasonable grounds to believe their life was in jeopardy

816
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: at the time they fired the gun. Even if they

817
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: were wrong in that belief, if a reasonal officer believed it,

818
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: am I correct in stating they're free of criminal liability.

819
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely free of climate criminal liability. That's the law

820
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: and it's backed by science. I ask people look at

821
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: the for Science Institute and the things that they are discovering.

822
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 3: It just is impossible what people expect cops to do.

823
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: They expect them to see things and that frame by

824
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 3: frame that you talked about before, and they expecting people

825
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: to be able to have instantaneous reaction. Where I sit,

826
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: like I said before, these things take the better part

827
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: of a second to see something, to react to something,

828
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: to start emotion, change emotion or whatever. And it's it's unrealistic.

829
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: And they're making it more and more unrealistic on purpose

830
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: in the hopes again of politics and power. And it's

831
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: going to keep happening the more than.

832
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: I think it will now. Lastly, before I let you go,

833
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: you hear gun gun guns. If you're in a fracas

834
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: five or six and someone is resisting arrest, who is

835
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: obstructing justice, and there's no question that in this case,

836
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: Alex pretty was in the middle of the street directing

837
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: traffic and obstructing law enforcement trying to arrest a gangbanger.

838
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: And he was there, in his own mind, with the

839
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: best of intentions. But when you're in a fracas mano

840
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: imano on the street, your weapon is equally in access

841
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: to him as your weapon is to you. And secondly,

842
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: when you hear gun gun gun, we have about a

843
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: minute remaining. What does that mean to you as a

844
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: cop in a fracas?

845
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: Willie gun? Gun? Gun means that the person we're dealing

846
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: with is in possession of a firearm. It means that

847
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: he has the ability to kill me nearly instantly, his

848
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: ability to kill one of my partners nearly instantly, his

849
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: ability to kill a citizen in the area nearly instantly,

850
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: And so I must stop that threat. And there is

851
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: only one way to stop that threat is deadly force.

852
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: So the perception of the officer is what matters at

853
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 3: the time. Yep, I believe an officer did see a

854
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: gun at Savis. Now there was a gun. He saw

855
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: a gun. We don't know what Pretty's intentions were because

856
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 3: we don't have time to ask. We don't have time

857
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: to check his behavior from childhood. All we have time

858
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Speaker 3: to do is to survive, and an alficer made a

859
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Speaker 3: decision to survive, and evil people are going after that

860
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: officer and officers in general to serve a political purpose.

861
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: It needs to stop.

862
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Sergeant Dan Hills, thank you. I can't imagine what those

863
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: ice officials are going through. They're chased all around town.

864
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: There's organized groups and more than a thousand doxing them repeatedly.

865
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: They can't get a meal, they can't go to the bathroom.

866
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: They're working double shifts. It's like minus ten degrees. They're

867
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: being sped on, yelled at hell yesterday or today. There

868
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: was an ice officer that had a finger bitten off

869
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: by a protester. No, that's a felon. That's a niggravated

870
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: felony against the law enforcement officer. And all those things

871
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: are ignored because it doesn't fit the media narrative. And

872
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Dan Hills retired. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham

873
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Speaker 1: Show once again. Continue to have a great day, and

874
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Sergeant Hills, thank you very much.

875
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: God bless our ice officers, Lily, thank.

876
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: You, God bless America. Let's continue with more and there

877
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: it is, put yourself in the shoes of the officer

878
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: firing the weapon at that moment, not a tenth of

879
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: a second before the gun was seized seemingly by one

880
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: of his fellow officers. The other five were actively involved

881
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: with someone resisting arrest. And you can't put guilty knowledge

882
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: in his head. The gun was gone when you hear gun, gun, gun,

883
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: and you say, heard the sergeant talk about you respond

884
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: and save your life. And your fellow officers and none

885
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: of them any idea about the social history of alex

886
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: pretty or not. That's not for that consideration. Bill Cunningham

887
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. We look at the kinds of

888
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: kinds of things Jefferson said about John Adams, back and forth.

889
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: That's okay. It's the hypocrisy of the life that gives

890
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: to themselves the honor of only determining what is good

891
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: and what is bad. To me, it's tasty apocrisy.

892
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: Look, wait a minute, hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting all right.

893
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: Second, man, I understand you're still with some undisclosed location.

894
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Where exactly are you now? If anywhere?

895
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 4: Your female location at the tower.

896
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: What where are.

897
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: You junk bell bound in Middletown?

898
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Will he I am told by neighbors that your driveway

899
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: is clear? Is that correct?

900
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: Most of it, yes, But the rest of it was done,

901
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 4: and I about to half killed myself doing it.

902
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: I could send out Richard K. Jones and the men

903
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: and women at Butler County to get you out. Can

904
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: you get out? Can you be back tomorrow if the

905
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: snow crisis dissipates.

906
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 4: Looks like I'll be back tomorrow.

907
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: Yet, how bad is it in Middle Tucky right now? Segment?

908
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 4: There's a lot of snow up here, Willie.

909
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: I know how the roads.

910
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 5: I don't know.

911
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: I haven't been out. How can I get on the

912
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: roads and I haven't been.

913
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: Outdun, you've not been outside. You're still hunkered down.

914
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: I've been outside. I've been outside for about ten minutes,

915
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: and you freeze to death.

916
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: Well, Segment, give me some sports and make it fast,

917
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: because right now we're in a crisis. Without the segment

918
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: for two or three days, it's not good.

919
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 4: Willy the Future Porter is and proud service of a

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00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: local Temestar Heating air conditioning dealers Temstar Quality cancel. We

921
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Speaker 4: also want to thank Lears Prime Market Willie for our.

922
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Speaker 3: Food today YEP.

923
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Speaker 4: dot Com.

925
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: And said, so you should know that Mark Sheer is back.

926
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: I said when he left us a sales exact, we

927
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: will see you again. Mark Sheer is back today your

928
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: comments really?

929
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: So the retirement ended and he's coming back.

930
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: Huh.

931
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: Had a big party for him at the end of December.

932
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Remember that big party and dancing bears the old Dale

933
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: Champagne goodbye. He couldn't stay away from us for even

934
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: thirty days.

935
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 3: How about that?

936
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: What do you know, good guy, he's back. I like

937
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: Mark one of the co owners the back of teawall.

938
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: Him and Dale Donovan run the place. Give me some sports, Willie.

939
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: Let's see college basketball tonight. You got the number twenty four,

940
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: Miami at twenty and oh at Malen Hall the night

941
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 4: at nine against you Mass. March the fifth, nineteen fifty

942
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 4: three was the last time Miami played a home game

943
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 4: when they were ranked.

944
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: Say that again.

945
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: March the nineteen fifty three is the last time Miami.

946
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: The Red Redskins then played a home gain while they

947
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 4: were ranked. And the I guess the AP top twenty

948
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: five seventy three years streak ends tonight against the minute men.

949
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: How's that possible? All the years. Are Charlie Cole never ranked?

950
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 4: Well, I don't believe. So't know, I mean while they

951
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 4: were ranked. I think they were ranked in nineteen ninety

952
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 4: nine with Wally Serbiak or something. But not many home games.

953
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: So you're saying that Miami has not played a home game.

954
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: I guess Mallett Hall if is still called Mallett Hall

955
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: in the last what seventy seventy three years?

956
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: No, the last time they were ranked in the AP

957
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: top twenty five?

958
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and playing a home game, right, And that's like

959
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: Indiana Hoosiers winning the national title in football. That's impossible.

960
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: The Kentucky's gonna take on number eighteen Vanderbilt tonight at

961
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: nine on ESPN fifteen thirty, and then number twelve for

962
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Speaker 4: dues up against Indiana.

963
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: Let's see what else? Oh, how about this?

964
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 4: Saint Louis University approached the Big East last week with

965
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: a proposal to join the conference, which was swiftly denied.

966
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: Explain Reports be the leadership among the consultants from Well

967
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: Reports are a Big East leadership and along with consultants

968
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 4: from the NCAA, told FLU they are not yet primed

969
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 4: to compete at a high major level with excellent legendary

970
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 4: programs such as Zager Really yeah, how about that pretty

971
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 4: good Hot Stove Tonight, Reds Hots Red Hot Stove League Tonight,

972
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Speaker 4: six oh five seven out a WLW Reds, Pitchers and

973
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: Catchers areports February ninth, Over was a little bit warmer

974
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: out there than it is here. Pitchers, Tony Santion and

975
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: Brock Burke are the special guests by Phone Tonight's. The

976
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 4: National Football League has announced that the Buffalo Bills are

977
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: going to promote offensive coordinator Joe Brady to be their

978
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: next head coach.

979
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Speaker 1: Is he related to Tom Brady?

980
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't think.

981
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: What about Bill Belichick?

982
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 6: I don't.

983
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

984
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: No, I well, no, he's not going to.

985
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: Go to Buffalo, Are you crazy?

986
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: I meant nut? He belongs in Buffalo.

987
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 4: Three things in Max. Let's be soccer pre season match tomorrow,

988
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 4: pre season match number two for the FC Cincinnati and

989
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: Beautiful Saint Petersburg, Florida against the Houston Dynamo.

990
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: How about that.

991
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: With only about fifteen degrees down there too?

992
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: I think that's cold. I mean, hell South? How about Miami,

993
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 1: Florida and Naples, Florida. On Friday? We have a low

994
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: of thirty two degrees. Think about that thirty two degrees

995
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: low in Naples, Florida.

996
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's still warmer there than it will be here.

997
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: Right well segment, now, hold on here.

998
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: Look if we had to thirty two here, Willie, they'd

999
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: be opened up the swimming.

1000
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: Pools segment of hold on, we have coach Travis Steele

1001
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: and Miami calling in. We called him Travis Steele. How

1002
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: are you?

1003
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, Thanks for having me on.

1004
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Now. I just heard the fact from the segment. I

1005
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: can't believe Travis the undefeated, untied, unscored on Miami RedHawks.

1006
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Are you ready for a fact you're going

1007
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: to find unbelievable?

1008
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 6: I would love to hear it.

1009
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Segment, Tell Travis Steel this fact going back to nineteen

1010
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: fifty three, Willie.

1011
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: This is from Channel five. They had a March to

1012
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: the fifth. Nineteen fifty three was the last time Miami

1013
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 4: played a home game?

1014
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: Well ranked, Travis, is that we're talking seventy three years?

1015
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: You're making history? Is that? I would ask you, Travis?

1016
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Is that true? Seventy three years? What about Wally Serbiak,

1017
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: What about Charlie Coles? What about what about Henrick, What

1018
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: about those guys? What about that? Is that true? Travis?

1019
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 6: I guess if he says it is, I'll tell you

1020
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 6: it's a It's a blessing to be here at Miami.

1021
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 6: And there's been so many good players and coaches and

1022
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: teams over the years that we're hopefully we're making all

1023
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 6: those that have been here worn the jersey before proud.

1024
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Why. I want to ask you why, because you know

1025
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: Miami is good academically, football unbelievable ed what Martin has

1026
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: done is unbelievable. What have you done? Did you see

1027
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: this two or three years ago when you went to

1028
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: Miami that you would be undefeated, untied on, scored on,

1029
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: ranked in the top twenty, playing the first home game

1030
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: in seventy three years? What did you do? Much like

1031
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti of the Hoosiers in football, what did you

1032
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: do with Miami that made this happen?

1033
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: Well, first off, we've got a lot to sell. You know,

1034
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: it's a beautiful campus, elite academics. We do have a

1035
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 6: proud tradition of you know, they just allowed me to

1036
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 6: build it the way that I wanted to build it.

1037
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 6: And it's all about fit. I always start with it's

1038
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 6: the evil, you know, making sure that we're getting the

1039
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 6: right young men in our program, having the right staff,

1040
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 6: and that's what we have. We have a lot of

1041
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 6: like minded people, all pulling in the same direction, and

1042
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 6: they are extremely selfless, you know, they played for one another.

1043
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 6: Makes it a lot of fun.

1044
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: Sounds like somebody's recruiting. Someone's coming in the door, Coach,

1045
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: hear the dog in the.

1046
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: Background, Yeah, my dog is He's in my alarm well armed.

1047
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully it's not a nice agent, but that's a

1048
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: different issue. Someone like you are going to be wine

1049
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: dined in, pocket lined by the sec the Big ten,

1050
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, the Pack eight, the Big ten. Everyone's

1051
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: gonna come after you. Yeah, and you know how that

1052
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: works in college sports. Is that in the back of

1053
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: your mind or not?

1054
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 6: Not at all. I'm just enjoying this ernie that we've

1055
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 6: been on here at Miami. You know, David Saylor, athletic

1056
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 6: director and president Crawford, gave me this opportunity and four

1057
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 6: years ago. Man, I'm just extremely grateful and love coaching

1058
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 6: this group and I love what we've been able to build.

1059
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 6: You know, I always say the grass is and always greener. No,

1060
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 6: you know, you don't mess with happiness. And we've been

1061
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 6: on my family and I are really really happy here

1062
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 6: at Miami.

1063
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: You know, Travis, I told the segment this many times

1064
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: in many guys, is why do we seek what we have?

1065
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: If you have a situation in which you love your job,

1066
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: you love where you're located, You're making enough money to

1067
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: put food on the table, You're well respected, you're admired,

1068
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: why would you throw that away and go to North

1069
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: Carolina Duke wake Forest, Illinois, Iowa? Why would you do that?

1070
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: And when you have what you seek in life? You're

1071
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: relatively young. I assume you're about forty years old or so.

1072
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: Could you see yourself being a lifer at Miami?

1073
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 6: I can't, you know. I We've been really really pleased

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Speaker 6: with the situation here and the support that we got

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 6: from our administration. And like I said, they'd let me

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 6: build it the way about one of the build it here,

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Speaker 6: and I'm extremely appreciative of And we love living in

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 6: southwest Ohio. Home for us in a lot of way

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Speaker 6: right now. We love raising our family here.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, you know, I was recruited to go to Miami

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01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: by Tates Locke. You might remember it takes it takes

1082
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: lock in the late nineteen sixties and they did terrific

1083
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: good Man, and I didn't go to Miami. Do you

1084
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: think Tates Locke made a mistake and not recruiting me

1085
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: to go to Miami because Wally Zerbiak and I went

1086
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame together? Was that? Was that

1087
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: the number one mistake Tates Locke ever made me?

1088
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 6: That was the biggest mistake.

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: All right, Well, good luck tonight, Travis. Do not seek

1090
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: in the future what you have and as long as

1091
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: you're unning f tys going on, man, just stay at

1092
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: Miami and kick ass like mister ass.

1093
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 6: I appreciate it. God, thanks for having me on.

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01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: You're the best, Travis. God bless you, and God bless

1095
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: the RedHawks. Thank you. Segment, please continue.

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Speaker 4: That's about all I got, Willie. I don't know. I mean,

1097
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: it doesn't any better than that with the RedHawks coach

1098
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 4: at twenty and oh baby, so twenty of the Arizona

1099
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: Arizona went to twenty one and oh last night, just

1100
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: barely winning by three over BYU. I don't know what

1101
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: nebrask would do, but there's only three left.

1102
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm told by some of the you

1103
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: see faithful including Tony tells me, Austin tells me, Dave

1104
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: tells me. You know, essentially, it doesn't mean anything. Twenty

1105
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: and oh they haven't played anybody. I'd say, what, you

1106
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: beat everybody you can on your schedule. You beat everybody. Now,

1107
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't care what Tony Pike says. And moeger if

1108
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: you if you go undefeated, untied, unscored on in the

1109
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: mid am in the MAC, that's not a bad deal.

1110
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: Look at a football team which has great success every year,

1111
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: even though they don't play a lot of times big schools.

1112
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: But nonetheless I have great respect for Miami segment. Get

1113
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: me out of the student's report, please, I'm looking online.

1114
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator promoted to the head coach,

1115
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: is not related to Tom Brady. But the one job

1116
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: still open is the Las Vegas Raiders. And that was

1117
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: the job where the girlfriend of Bill Belichick was speaking

1118
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: with the girlfriend of Tom Brady. And Tom Brady owns

1119
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: part of the Las Vegas Raiders. Maybe that's the job. Maybe,

1120
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Speaker 1: Willy and honor.

1121
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: Of one of our own. Today we say happy birthday

1122
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 4: to the one and only Chris Collins.

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01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: Worked what how old, is he?

1124
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 4: I don't know. I only mentioned the birthday? Will he?

1125
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: He didn't want to know?

1126
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: He didn't.

1127
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 4: That is undisclosed information right there.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know, seg Would you agree that you

1129
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: and I had more to do with his success as

1130
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: a broadcaster than anyone else?

1131
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 4: Yes?

1132
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: How many times has he said to us? Et cetera?

1133
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: How much he's thankful? By the way, Chris Collinsworth just

1134
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: turn sixty seven years old today, sixty seven. He's eligible

1135
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: now for Medicare, hopefully not Medicaid. He's on Medicare and

1136
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: Social Security.

1137
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: What do you think, well, Willie?

1138
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 4: I guess he'll go with you manor or somebody.

1139
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1140
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you.

1141
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: Well, he's getting pretty old, would you agree?

1142
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 4: No, he's young at heart like all the rest of us.

1143
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: But he's old. Collinsworth is old.

1144
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 4: So were you?

1145
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: So?

1146
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 6: Am I what?

1147
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think?

1148
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: So? Year old?

1149
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 4: Two year old? You're you're eleven years older than he is.

1150
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: Well, I don't feel like it. I got the body

1151
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: of a sixty.

1152
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 5: One year old.

1153
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 4: He doesn't feel what do you say, sixty seven? He

1154
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: doesn't look and he doesn't feel it.

1155
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't know by the way. He's the best I

1156
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: think somehow, and he's got the top job. He should

1157
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: keep it for a long time. I compare him to others.

1158
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: Having those top jobs is not very good segment. Give

1159
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: me out of this Dude's report.

1160
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: Please well to get out of another cold day. Hear

1161
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: in the christ things and when will it end? We

1162
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 4: leave you with the immortal words of the Doe report.

1163
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 7: This is a double cheek push here.

1164
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 6: Now.

1165
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: When he goes off.

1166
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 7: That way, sometimes Billy get a single cheek. But that's

1167
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 7: what they do. They submarine underneath and then they try

1168
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 7: to get the double cheek push going and it works

1169
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 7: all the time. Look at the poor man or four

1170
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 7: point stance underneath there, and then you just shove him

1171
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 7: prayed forward like this.

1172
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: He didn't do that, did you.

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01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 7: That's that's the way they described it.

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01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: But did you have to give it to all of America?

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: One more thing hit the Charlie Coles, the recruitment of

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01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: the great American at Miami. Dave hit it all right.

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01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 8: Before I let you go, I always turn to you

1179
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 8: for a perspective, because on a daily basis, I hear

1180
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 8: Willy run his mouth about his basketball skills between uh,

1181
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 8: you know, noon and three, and I'm never sure what's

1182
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 8: reality and what's you know in his mind. Give me

1183
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 8: a little scouting report Willy as a player and would

1184
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 8: he be what he would his skills translate to today's game.

1185
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 5: Well, let me just say this. We were just talking

1186
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 5: about Willie the other day. Don Moore Meyer, who was

1187
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 5: the head coach of Sycamore High School when I was

1188
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 5: the assistant there, who coached you know who was a

1189
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 5: varsity coach and I was the JB coach, uh and

1190
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 5: assistant varsity coach. We both went against Willy, and we

1191
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 5: got to talking about him, and I was telling him

1192
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 5: how all of a sudden, Bill Cunningham is telling me

1193
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 5: that he can really jump. I don't remember that. I

1194
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 5: remember Bill Cunningham had a game a lot like mine.

1195
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 5: He kind of needed a lot of help to get

1196
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 5: a shot, like four or five screens. Uh, you know,

1197
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 5: now let him open, He's going to make it most

1198
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 5: of the time. Great shooter. He would be by like

1199
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 5: me nowadays, he would be lost with all these athletes.

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: That is trumendous segment your reaction.

1201
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: Nobody better than Charlie Coles.

1202
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: Willie, he was the greatest rest in heaven. Let's continue

1203
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: with more Billy Cunningham, who's radio seven hundred l W you.

1204
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: I'll let you and I take care of old business

1205
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: before we go to new business. Relative as I began

1206
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: about two hours ago with Brian Hamry. There were court

1207
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: proceedings in front of Judge Katie Cash by the way,

1208
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: as a Republican that more or less gave a slap

1209
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: on the wrist to Gerald Austin de Anthony Bullocks and

1210
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: sincere Grigsby's to be determined, but it won't be nothing

1211
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: much will come of it. Spoke to a high police

1212
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: official who told me that the kind of justice received

1213
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: in this case. Those are the three co conspirators with

1214
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Hinton on her about May the first that was

1215
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: killed while in possession of a stolen vehicle and also

1216
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,440
Speaker 1: pointing a gun at the police, according to the county prosecutor,

1217
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: County Pillage. And in this case, I think she made

1218
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: a very wise decision, but I regress. The police official

1219
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: told me this is what passes for justice now in

1220
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: Hamlin County. That can do this kind of stuff and

1221
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: not much comes of it. May I use the term

1222
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,839
Speaker 1: in the good old days when we had a functional

1223
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: court system in Hamlin County. If you spend time fleeing

1224
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: and eluding a police officer, that was considered to be

1225
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: a serious offense. When you talk to Joe Deads, Melissa Powers,

1226
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: talked to those in the prosecutor's office. If there were

1227
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: individuals committing crimes who would not stop and simply took

1228
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: the police or highway patrol or sheriff's department on the joy,

1229
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: it was extremely dangerous for those pedestrians of those other

1230
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: drivers and vehicles when cars get up to eighty ninety

1231
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: miles an hour and there's a policy not to chase

1232
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: someone fleeing in the looting used to be a big deal.

1233
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: If you did that, you went to prison. I had

1234
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: two or three cases in front of Judge Robert Ruhlman

1235
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: and one in front of one of the Judge Morrissey,

1236
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: in which someone had committed a robbery, one on a

1237
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: lark fleeing in a looting, which means the police had

1238
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: got the sirens chasing somebody. Took them about twenty minutes

1239
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: to get that done up seventy five and what happened

1240
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: at that point is my client's car left the roadway

1241
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: to high rate of speed crashed. Fortunately for him, I

1242
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: guess he wasn't killed, and he received eleven years in

1243
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: prison for fleeing in a looting and also committing the robbery,

1244
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: more than a decade in jail. That's not much different

1245
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: than what happened now, which is Ryan Hinton and Gerald

1246
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: Austen and to Anthony Bullocks and sincere Grigsby were in

1247
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: the car stealing business, that they would use those cars

1248
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: not to transfer title and to keep, they would use

1249
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: those cars to commit other crimes. You know what I'm saying.

1250
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: Because it was harder to identify the perpetrators when the

1251
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: vehicle was stolen, so I can only assume that the

1252
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: vehicle was stolen in Edgewood, Kentucky. So these individuals, to

1253
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: Anthony Bullocks appeared to be the leader of the band,

1254
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: could use that vehicle to commit armed robberies, to do

1255
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff. You play silly games, you

1256
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: get silly results. So Ryan Hinton, there was at least

1257
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: one other gun in the car other than one in

1258
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 1: possession of Ryan Hinton, and the county prosecutor made a decision,

1259
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: you might know, County Pillage, not to criminally charge any

1260
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: CPD officers, which made them quite happy. In fact, there

1261
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 1: was a wide PSI relief in CPD in Hamiley County

1262
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: when the new prosecutor County Pillage did not desire to

1263
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: go after police officers who were making life and death

1264
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: split second decisions. So it used to be fleeing. The

1265
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: looting was a big deal because you put a risk

1266
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: the lives and property of all kinds of innocent people.

1267
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: Today's world, it's really nothing at all. The driver of

1268
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: the car appeared to be the Anthony Bullocks who took

1269
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,520
Speaker 1: the CPD on a joy ride in and around Cincinnati.

1270
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: Finally went into an apartment building that had a dead end,

1271
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: and you know what happened next, Ryan Hinton jumps out,

1272
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: points a gun in a cop. He gets killed. Then

1273
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: the next day the father, Rodney Hinton Junior, has showed

1274
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: the video. He gets all angry decides to kill a cop.

1275
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: It didn't make any difference. Could have been golf manor

1276
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: could have been Covington. This happened to be sadly, a

1277
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: retired deputy sheriff doing special duty at UC graduation. Larry

1278
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: Henderson been loved by Charmaine McGuffey and by Sean Donovan

1279
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: si Lee's been there for like thirty years and he

1280
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 1: gave his life simply directing traffic at UC's commencement ceremonies

1281
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: because Rodney Hinton won it revenge. What started this whole

1282
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: chain of events was his son, Ryan Jarrell Austin to

1283
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: Anthony Bullocks and sincere Grigsby. Those are the four that

1284
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: started the series of events that resulted in the murder

1285
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: of an in uniform deputy sheriff. That used to be well,

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Speaker 1: that's a big deal. You get in front of one

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01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: of the Matthews, William R. Williams, get in front of Craft,

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: get in front of Morrisey, get in front of NATL.

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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: We got problems, Skip West, we got problems. Not in

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: today's world. This high ranking officer told me, well that

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01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: that goes for justice in Amiley County. The law should

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 1: be changed and possibly I'll get to Sydney Abrams or

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01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: others lawmaker. If you involved in fleeing and e looting

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: a police and you're in possession of firearms that ought

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: to be an F three carries an assumption of mandatory

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: jail sentencing. Of course, prosecutors can always reduce it and

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01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: knock down the charges get away from that, but at

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: least it sends the message from Columbus, you can't do

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01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. So I have a call in

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01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: to Rob Sanders. He had an open warrant on one

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: of these three and he's going to find out by

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow what to serve the warrant on one of these

1303
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: three that remain to bring them back to Kentucky to

1304
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: try them in Kenton County for stealing a car. Now

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01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be a little proof problems because the

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01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 1: other two are going to have to testify. It's not

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: known whether it had a gun in the car at

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01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: the time. Most likely did, but you don't know that.

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: In fact, you can't say for sure which of the

1310
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: threes stole the car. But they think they know who

1311
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: stole the car, and he Rob Sanders. Kent County Prosecutor

1312
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: is unhappy. But the fact that these three largely got

1313
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: off with no big deal indirectly involved themselves in the

1314
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: murder of Larry Henderson, who is still dead, so he's

1315
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: not happy. He'll join us tomorrow to talk about it.

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,839
Speaker 1: We'll go on from there. And the high ranking CPD

1317
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: officers told me this is not the way things ought

1318
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: to be, but it's the way things are now in

1319
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: Hamlet County, very urban, soft approach when it comes to crime.

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01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: I was told that all three of these individuals are

1321
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: now out and about. They're not going to college, they

1322
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of charitable time available. They are

1323
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: simply back onto the streets, access to guns and cars.

1324
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next. Hopefully, next time they do

1325
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: something wrong it won't result in the murder of a

1326
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: police officer. Secondly, as you may know, I've followed closely

1327
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: the events happening in Minneapolis, and it is sad. It's

1328
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: very sad that a killing took place in Minneapolis of

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01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: mister Pretty. It didn't have to happen. And by the

1330
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: time everything is known, and today more came out. This

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: is a reason if you're a police officer, a prosecutor,

1332
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: an ag if you're Christy, no matter who you are,

1333
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: do not open your mouth on facts until the facts

1334
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: are known. More facts came out today. These events happened

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01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday morning of last week, and so we're still

1336
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: in midstroke getting all the video together. And matt Rees

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: has told me again that the ice officers at the scene,

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: three of them had body cams on, and so there's

1339
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: going to be perspective that Dan Hills talked about earlier

1340
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: about from the officer's perspective on the scene, who fired shots,

1341
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: as to how it happened, why it happened, who knew

1342
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: what when it was chaos, and the chaos was sown

1343
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: by the so called protesters who are many times anarchists

1344
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: and agitators. Mister Alex pretty seemingly got caught up in

1345
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: being a social justice warrior who was a VA nurse.

1346
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: It's a heart rendering scene. I don't know if you've

1347
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: seen it, but the video was released about six months ago.

1348
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: I guess in Via hospitals, when an American soldier, a

1349
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: veteran has died, they do a little ceremony in the hallway.

1350
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: They put his body in a bag along with the

1351
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: American flag on top, and they read the accomplishments of

1352
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: this and in this case, it was a World War

1353
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: Two veteran what he'd done in his life. And so

1354
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching Alex pretty acting as you or

1355
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: I would act around an American hero who was treated

1356
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: in the Villa Hospital for injuries. Eventually, he succumbed two

1357
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: years later and he looked like a fine young man,

1358
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: but in the process of that, he wanted to get involved,

1359
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: maybe in something greater themselves, and so he joined a

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: large group of like minded in individuals and this is

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01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: where ultimately resulting in his death, which I don't think

1362
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 1: he intended. He didn't know exactly what he was doing.

1363
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: He joined a signal group of individuals and their job

1364
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: is to harass, interfere with, annoy and do whatever is

1365
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: necessary to stop law enforcement and the performance of their duties.

1366
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: That is something that you should not do. So what

1367
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: happens on this signal chat group, they have different categories

1368
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: of individuals who simply sign up quickly to either impede

1369
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 1: and arrest, to shout, holler, to get in the way

1370
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 1: of in order to make it difficult for police to

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: do their job. You can imagine if a fifth third

1372
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: bank's held up on Fountain Square and the police are

1373
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: going to the scene to arrest the people responsible coming

1374
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: out out of the bank with the cash, and suddenly

1375
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: suddenly there's fifty protesters around screaming, hollering and shouting, blowing

1376
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: whistles and annoying, getting between the cops and the people

1377
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: they want to arrest because they're anti capitalists and they

1378
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: want that. They don't want that to go on. This

1379
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: anti anti ice signal chat is implicating several members of

1380
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: the Governor of Waltz administration with foreign funding being involved.

1381
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: This costs money. Maybe twelve hundred and fourteen hundred people,

1382
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: about half from Minnesota, half around the country have found

1383
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: themselves going into Minneapolis to join this protest against the government,

1384
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: protest against police and the Ice cops themselves. Damn it.

1385
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: They're in a tough position. Imagine we're looking twelve to

1386
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: sixteen hours a day, getting all your stuff on the

1387
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: beginning of the day, end of the day, standing around,

1388
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: getting spit on, kicked, having a finger eaten by an

1389
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: agitator every day that you do that six days a week,

1390
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: and you might at some point exercise bad judgment. And

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01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: so the police themselves, not assisted by Minneapolis police or

1392
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: between a rock and a hard place. They're making one

1393
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a

1394
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: year with benefits. They got to go through a whole

1395
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 1: bunch of crap put up by these anti ice signal

1396
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: chatbots that are around to organize along with an extensive manual.

1397
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: You download this manual from the anti ICE groups funded

1398
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: often by the Tides Foundation and the Ford Foundation, telling

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: you what to do, what not to do, how to act.

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01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: Whether you're an a good or Alex Pretty, you're a

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01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: member of this group and you have free time, show up.

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01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: A week before he was killed, reporting by seeing and

1403
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: end they're right about half the time. Alex Pretty was

1404
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: driving and saw an ICE operation where law enforcement was

1405
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: arresting and illegal immigrant who had committed felonies. He jumps

1406
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 1: out of the car, gets between the illegal immigrant felon

1407
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: and Ice obstruct them, which by the ways of felony,

1408
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: I said, that's a felony itself. And then he was detained.

1409
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: He was searched. They didn't find a gun on Alex

1410
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: Pretty at that point. And during the fracas with Ice,

1411
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: this is a nurse of the VA obstructing, delaying, interfering

1412
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: with a law enforcement operation because in his mind he's

1413
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: pursuing some greater good. So during the fracas with police

1414
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 1: a week before he was killed, Pretty suffered a broken

1415
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: rib and was treated. That didn't stop him. He wanted

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01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 1: to keep going, keep going, keep going, and just on

1417
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 1: the concealed carry front. As you may know, I have

1418
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: a concealed carry license, which is no longer required in

1419
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. It used to be. I forget

1420
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: how many hours twelve hours I had to go through

1421
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: training in the beginning. Well, I don't think I needed it,

1422
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: but I went through it. What to do, what not

1423
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: to do, what circuit, when to carry, when not to carry,

1424
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: et cetera. So in Minnesota they have a similar law

1425
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: in which it's rather easy to get concealed carry permit.

1426
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: Its issue by the local county sheriffs, get your picture

1427
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: of your address, et cetera, and they give you this

1428
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: card looks like a driver's license, and you have a

1429
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: right to carry a gun. Now as part of that,

1430
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: you have rights, but always in life you have responsibilities.

1431
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: A week before, Preddy did not carry the gun with

1432
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: him the first time he confronted Ice and interfered with

1433
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 1: an arrest. He should have been criminally charged with a

1434
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: felony at that point. He might still be alive if

1435
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: he had been. But there's so many people in Minnesota

1436
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: doing this. I'm sure Ice thinks we can't load up

1437
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: to jails with a thousand people. We're not going to

1438
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: arrest people for committing felonies, so we'll let them go.

1439
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: But then the FBI developed over the past three or

1440
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: four weeks of database in which these individuals and their

1441
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 1: photos were taken. The earlier incidents started when Pretty stopped

1442
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: his car after observing ICE agents chasing a suspect on foot.

1443
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: It is uncertain whether the officers at the scene of

1444
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,839
Speaker 1: the shooting knew about this, but Pretty's name, according to CNN,

1445
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: was well known to federal agents, though it's unclear whether

1446
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: the new intake form was used to share the information.

1447
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: It's unclear whether the federal agents encountered Petty on Saturday

1448
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 1: morning recognize him or not. That subject to the investment

1449
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: is still going on, and with the body cams, we're

1450
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: going to know a lot more about the case in

1451
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: the future than we know right now, which is why

1452
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: government officials should keep their damn's mouth shut and totally

1453
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 1: find out exactly the facts of the case. Does this

1454
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: make sense to anyone? Don't call people terrorists and don't

1455
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: say they're wanting to massacre police officers until you get

1456
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: more information. The one person that could have stopped all

1457
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: this from happening was Alex Pretty. Because when you carry

1458
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: a gun. You have a right to do it and

1459
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: do a confrontation with law enforcement. Things might go a miss.

1460
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: In fact, you can't. In this case, he did not

1461
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: have the right to carry the gun at that moment.

1462
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: He didn't have his license with him, and it's in

1463
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: a separate photo ID. Part of the deal is if

1464
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: you're resisting arrest, you cannot be in possession of a firearm.

1465
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: That's another issue. You can't carry it. So we're not

1466
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: even close to finishing this investigation. So government officials, Christy

1467
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: no and others should not make, like Greg Bovino, make

1468
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: statements about facts until the facts are known. Does that

1469
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: mean make sense to anyone? At the end of the day,

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01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: Alex Pretty is dead and he was the one person

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01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: that could have stopped it. Had the right to carry

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01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: a gun, but the responsibility entailed in doing so would

1473
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: indicate to me, as a considered carry permit holder, not

1474
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: to carry a gun in that situation to confront ice

1475
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,440
Speaker 1: officials to interfere with another arrest, which he's done previously.

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01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: When you're armed with a gun, especially one that may

1477
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: not be reliable like they had with him. Because that gun,

1478
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: he particular gun he carried has been subject to over

1479
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: one hundred lawsuits of unintended discharge? Was there an unintended discharge?

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01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was a pop, then a second later,

1481
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. We'll find out later. How about knowing

1482
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: the facts before you shoot your mouth off? Does that

1483
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: make sense to anyone?

1484
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 2: Now?

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01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Let's continue. Shouldn't call people mass murderers and assassins and

1486
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: terrorists even until you know the facts. And here we

1487
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: are what five six days later, more facts are being ascertained.

1488
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Let's continue. I support the Second Amendment, of course, but

1489
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: many times his condition on ideology. One can only imagine

1490
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, if right to lifers in front of an

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01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: abortion clinic had impeded the exercise of the right to

1492
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: kill your baby in you to row, I think Keith

1493
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: Ellison and the law enforcement officials would take a different

1494
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 1: viewpoint of right to lifers in front of an abortion

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01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: clinic other than Alex pretty and an Ice police raid.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree? Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW reading.

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Speaker 9: The incredible impact of public school educators. Nominate an outstanding

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Speaker 9: their students to be among the winners of five thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars to stop their classroom teachers give their time, money,

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Speaker 9: info and nominate a teacher who goes the extra mile

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Speaker 9: today at iHeartRadio dot com slash Teachers.

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Speaker 10: Bill Cunningham is a rech fan and he is about

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Speaker 10: as political an animal as there is on earth, even

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Speaker 10: though he doesn't hold a public office, no doubt, thank you.

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Speaker 1: He also is a well when you when you.

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Speaker 10: Got a guy four down with four holes to go

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01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 10: and let him come back and beat you in match

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Speaker 10: play at the Kenwood Club Championship, is that what happened? Yeah,

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01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 10: Chris Sabo four down with four to go, Sable beat

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Speaker 10: him on the twentieth hole.

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Speaker 6: C h O k E.

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Speaker 1: That's spelled choke down all day. That's hard to do.

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Speaker 10: Now, all you've got to do is have one hole

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Speaker 10: and you got the match one.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about big league player now at Sabo? Oh,

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Speaker 1: no question.

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Speaker 2: I mean when they do his handicap, it's not minus something,

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Speaker 2: it's plus something.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 10: But Bill Cunningham would tell you that his game is

1524
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 10: second only to the passing of Ben Hogan. Come on now,

1525
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 10: just to set the record straight. If Cunningham has any question,

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01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 10: the only way we know about this is because not

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Speaker 10: Chris Sabo told us up. Bill Segedison told it. His partner,

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Speaker 10: Thank you, friends like him. He don't need no enemy.

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Speaker 1: On the Stooge Report, Bingo, Hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting.

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01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: You know I've been waiting for a long time. And

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01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 1: where is the leaker here in the students report segment?

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: You are the leaker? Is that correct?

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01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 4: I fleed the fifth Lillie and I'm drinking the fin

1534
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 4: here with dede segment?

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01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Did you leak that information to the Brenneman clan? Yay

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01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: or nay?

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Speaker 4: I think I did because it was funny.

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01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: Well, the fact matter is I was, I was four

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01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: up and four to go, and then I parted fifteen,

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Sable birdied it, sixteen eye bogied, Sabo parted seventeen. I parted,

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01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: but Sabo birdied it. In eighteen. I but Sabo birdied it.

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01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you now, I didn't lose Sabo one.

1543
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: So I played those four holes one over par he

1544
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: played them three under. Now segment, did I lose it?

1545
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: But did Sabo win it speak now or forever? Hold

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01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: your peace?

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01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 4: I think Won Bingo like Dotty Scheffler, Right, what.

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Speaker 1: Do you do?

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't know, I don't know

1550
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 4: you're you're the guru of golf around here. No, I

1551
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 4: mean I know, I'm.

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01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: Just telling you and uh, with that, I don't know

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01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: how he is today. At that point he was a

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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: plus two out drove me by fifty yards. But I

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01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: was better around the greens and I was able to

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01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: get into his head just a little bit, just a

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01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: little bit.

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01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 4: You know, those are by gongs beat By.

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Speaker 1: You're the leaker? Did you you just admit it? You leaked?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Because they they thought it was it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was funny. I think it's demeaning.

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01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: I think you demeaning me, and you will be held

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01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: to account in this world or the next.

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Speaker 4: Believe the two supporters of pro service of your local

1565
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 4: temp Star need to get air conditioning dealers pemp Stall.

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01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 4: Well that you could see them go to one of them,

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01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 4: because right now it's cold outside and you need temp Star.

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01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 2: Just call everybody.

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01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 4: Bret Durban called Baker Heating. Everybody call him.

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01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: On segment the other thing, if i'd go to if

1571
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I go to Google Earth and look from a satellite

1572
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: onto your street, is your street plowed or not?

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01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Wold Willie, but it's not looking too good?

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01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: No, no, you answer the question, is your street plowed?

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01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 1: Now I'm also told from Google Earth that your driveway

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01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: is clear because your wife Denise out there for two

1578
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: or three hours shoveling crap. And is it true your

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01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:06,759
Speaker 1: driveway is also plowed?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: Now why aren't you at work then?

1583
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 4: Because I don't want to be around you today?

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01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: Really? Something something happened, and what does it? Sag? I

1585
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: still love you?

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01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 4: No, just I don't know. I just blurted that out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Well, where is Sarah Elise? Where is she? I have

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Speaker 1: no idea.

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01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 2: I could care less.

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01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 4: So let's let's just get to what people want to

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Speaker 4: hear from.

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01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I quit leaking information critical to national security.

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Speaker 4: That was fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I will not forget. You think I'm

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01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna forget that? Do you think I'm gonna forget from

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Speaker 1: from twenty oh to twenty oh three? I do not forget.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I picked out.

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Speaker 1: There's your wife tell him the truth. She told you

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Speaker 1: not to do that.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's see the finsketal getting serious. Let's see twenty

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01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 4: fourth right, Miami at twenty and undo will most a

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01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 4: U mats A game time at Mallett Hall is at

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Speaker 4: nine o'clock Kentucky's in Nashville, with eight million people out

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Speaker 4: of power. They play. They take on number eighteen Vanderbilt

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Speaker 4: at nine on ESPN fifteen thirty and then number twelve

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Speaker 4: p Dues in Indiana also at nine o'clock tonight.

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Speaker 1: We got some issues going everywhere segment. We got nothing

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01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: but issues, and I.

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01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 4: Think Lewis University. Willie apparently reports our approach the Big

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01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 4: East last week with a proposal to join the conference,

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01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 4: which was swiftly denied. Why report for that Big East

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01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 4: Leadership among along with consultants from the MTAA, told SLU

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Speaker 4: that they are not yet primed to compete at a

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01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 4: high major level with excellent legacy programs like Xavier and DePaul.

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01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: What about the Dayton Flyer segment? What about Dayton? I

1617
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: think Dayton should be in the Big East. What about

1618
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:04,839
Speaker 1: Dayton segment?

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01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 4: They probably will be one day. I don't know. That's

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01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 4: way beyond my pay grade. And you know what, you

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01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 4: can't do anything in college sports today. They don't care.

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01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: It's amazing they.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who's gonna tell you what to do?

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01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 3: There's nobody.

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01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 4: Red update Willie hot Stove to Night six oh five

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Speaker 4: here on seven other wlw uh. Let's see leaf pitchers,

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Speaker 4: Tony Santiot and brock Burke a special guest by phone Tonight.

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01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 4: Red Pitchers and catchers are fourth February ninth positioned players

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01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 4: Happy Valentine's Day, February fourteen.

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01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 1: And we got only a few days to pitchers and catchers.

1632
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Then the opening day, isn't it about two months? That's

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01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: eight weeks from Thursday?

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01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 3: Right, correct?

1635
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 4: Eight weeks and we're like, we're like forty some days

1636
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 4: from March Madness and the NCAA tournament being a pick.

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01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: You know, seg, I remember the good old days when

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01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State was in Dayton, was in Wright State, was

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01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: in Miami, was in Xavier, was in uh U season

1640
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky's in you produce and everybody now what.

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01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 4: Well, I guess we'll see what happens. I don't know,

1642
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 4: but let's see. Will the National Football League the Buffalo

1643
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 4: fills our promoting offensive coordinator Joe Brady to be their

1644
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 4: next head coach, take over for John McDermott. Soccer Soccer action, Willie,

1645
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,440
Speaker 4: you got pre season max number two tomorrow and Saint Petersburg,

1646
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 4: Florida FC, Cincinnati and the Houston Dynamo.

1647
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: We'll go out of tomorrow, so it'll be.

1648
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 4: About thirty degrees down there. So those the southern commands

1649
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 4: and a little uh bit of a winter wonderland right now?

1650
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Say where in your life is their peace and quiet were?

1651
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: I look, there's nothing in the world but total chaos.

1652
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Nobody is happy chaos. Ye, Denise is talking now.

1653
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1654
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's always chaos will leave with me.

1655
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: No, if you come to work, and I've always told

1656
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,839
Speaker 1: you segment you deserve about five or six weeks vacation.

1657
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: The only time you take it is when it snow's

1658
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: is if you think it's nuclear fallout. You have some

1659
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 1: mental condition, maybe in the schizophrenia with effective components in

1660
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: which you huddle in fear of looking at snow. Have

1661
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:43,480
Speaker 1: you sought help for this? I no, Why.

1662
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: Then? I don't know.

1663
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 4: I want to go to doctor Sigmund.

1664
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Floyd there's a phone ring and that could be plus

1665
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: went on Travis Deele about an hour ago. He's undefeated,

1666
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,799
Speaker 1: untied on scoret On. Give the American people the stat

1667
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: going back to night fifty three in March. By the way,

1668
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: seg Man, who was president in March of nineteen fifty three.

1669
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 2: Was it Dwight Eisenhower?

1670
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 1: Bingo, you got that one right? What happened seventy three

1671
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: years ago?

1672
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,520
Speaker 4: Willie your This is from Channel five Charlie.

1673
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 2: Clifford and the boys there.

1674
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 4: That marks the fifth nineteen fifty three, the last time

1675
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 4: Miami played a home game while they were ranked in

1676
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 4: the country.

1677
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: Say that again. Rocky Boyman is in the shock and disbelieve.

1678
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: So it's been seventy three years since Miami played a

1679
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: home game when ranked in the top twenty at home

1680
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: rank correct, Rocky, is that possible? How's that possible? Yeah,

1681
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: shock Shockey, No, I know, seg Shocky. Rocky knew that.

1682
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 1: By the way, he just came out. He shocked you

1683
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 1: to know about it.

1684
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So there you go.

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01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: Rock was on the Big Show today. Many people people

1686
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: are wondering already. Tom By the way, Tom Brady, a

1687
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: guy named Brady's going to coach the Buffalo Bills.

1688
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 11: Is he related Joe Brady? He releases his uh brother

1689
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 11: step cousin.

1690
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Belichick Belichick, I told you what have her? Belichick perfect?

1691
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: But Jordan Hudson happened.

1692
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 11: He made his bed and now he must lay in

1693
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 11: it every night, every night with her. He likes that

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01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 11: bed too. I can't understand why, but I don't. I

1695
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 11: would not be interested. You don't like such things. How

1696
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 11: about Las Vegas? In middle twenties, women.

1697
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,799
Speaker 1: Talking talk to me about Las Vegas? What about Vegas

1698
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: taking Belichick Jordan and then you Jordan's gonna happen. There

1699
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 1: was a little falling out.

1700
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 11: It was a little dicey between Brady and Belichick at

1701
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 11: the end there.

1702
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: But right now I watched the thing with him and

1703
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Steve and hey, they love each other. Right now, Brady

1704
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: and Belichick are back together again. We'll see. But they're

1705
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Do they Vegas?

1706
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 11: They're gonna pick Fernando Mendoza, Brady, Mendoza and Belichick. Would

1707
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 11: that be the triumph?

1708
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Would be the worst?

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01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 11: I mean, if you're Las Vegas, see you kind of

1710
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 11: need a little you need a little structure. But again,

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Speaker 11: You're like, which Belichick are we getting now? If we're

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01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 11: getting you know, two thousand and three Belichick or even

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01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:24,520
Speaker 11: twenty thirteen, Bill Belichick's attention diverted right now divert He's distracted.

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01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 11: I think it's the right term. He's distracted. I'm glad

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01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 11: you're here.

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01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: Segment. I'm glad you here, Rock. I want to show

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01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 1: you this story. Governor Mike DeWine is getting ready for

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01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: the Haitian extraction. Let's go from Central Ohio segment. I

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01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: know you're a great supporter of TPS for the Haitians.

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01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: There's about thirty thousand Haitians living in Springfield and Central Ohio,

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01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: put there by Joe Biden, of course, and the TPS

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01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: expires February the third. So here's the question for Mike

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01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: Dwine and for you.

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Speaker 11: When ICE comes in, assuming that they do February, are

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01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 11: local law enforcement officials going to aid ICE and protect them?

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01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 11: Unlike what's going on in Minnesota. Are local law officials

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01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 11: going to say, hey, Ice, these folks are here. They're

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01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 11: not just simply protesting. They're actively interfering with your lawful

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01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 11: right to track these people down and get them out

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01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 11: of here. Are they going to aid and help them out,

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01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 11: help protect them, help protect them from folks getting shot

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01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 11: and cars run into them.

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01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:31,799
Speaker 1: Are they going to You got to ask the wine.

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01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: I have the quote I had them on yesterday. Ask

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01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: him the question I asked them the question. I forget,

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01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: but I have the quote here from Mike. Do wanti

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01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: ready for the quest quote segment? Listen up. I do

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01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: not think it's in Ohio's interest or Americas for all

1739
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: the Haitians who are working, sometimes working two jobs, spoiling

1740
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: their family, supporting the economy. Now I think it's a mistake. Well,

1741
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: it's great. You the ones that are lawfully here, legally

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01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 1: here and running businesses and have fast you can stay.

1743
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 1: But you got to check them out. Check them out.

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01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Everyone say, okay, how about my plan Number one? You

1745
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: got six months to report to whatever you want to report.

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01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: If you don't report, you're gone. If you do report,

1747
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 1: you've got to be working. You have no criminal record,

1748
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: you're not a dragon society, no welfare and the first

1749
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 1: time you violate one of those rules, you're out. It's insensive.

1750
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: How dare you that's insensitive? Yes? Seg what do you

1751
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: think about my play? Yeah?

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01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 6: Hey?

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01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 4: Welly, how about this Kurt right now, you can buy

1754
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:34,879
Speaker 4: your you can bid on Kurt Signetti's Natal Championship headset.

1755
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 4: It's available for Austin to support Indiana and I l

1756
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 4: how much right it's at? The current bit is eleven

1757
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,879
Speaker 4: thousand and five and ten.

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01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: Dollars, Rocky, do you want the best football team in Indiana?

1759
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Headset of the coach? I'm sweat on it. Yeah, you

1760
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: want it, don't you? Mark Cuban wants it. Undo, Let's

1761
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 1: go beout it. It's gonna be fifty thousand, Seg, what

1762
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: do you think about the Haitians living in Central Ohio?

1763
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 1: By TPS and Joe Biden? Expiring February the third, here's

1764
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: the story. What's gonna happen?

1765
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 2: Well, what's gonna happen?

1766
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,679
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, rock what's gonna happen?

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01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 3: Well?

1768
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 4: What I'm worried about getting to work in Middletown instead

1769
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 4: of Centerville.

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01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: I have Google Earth looks at him Google Alart. His

1771
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: street is clear and his driveway is clear. But Seg

1772
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 1: says he can't get out. Well, tweech Ther run all right,

1773
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: when's ice coming?

1774
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 3: When they come?

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01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: Well, Mike DeWine says they're good in Ohio. But he says,

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01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna follow the law. That's Mike, Okay. Well, and

1777
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: then you got to protect them because that's the law.

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01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: Seg man. Get us that. By the way, went's on

1779
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: the Big Show today with Eddie.

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01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 11: Let's see we have Dave Hatter at some point on

1781
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 11: saying that you click on LinkedIn messages with with you know,

1782
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,080
Speaker 11: like direct you know, like direct communication, direct message, you

1783
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 11: can somehow be subject really to malware. And also AI

1784
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 11: now has the ability to determine where you live by

1785
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 11: a single picture. It can just take an account like

1786
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 11: where where it is and well there's that, there's that,

1787
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 11: there's that, and pinpoint where you live and what you do?

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01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: Sad your reaction, I have none. I'm on Google Earth

1789
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: looking at your street.

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01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 5: Good.

1791
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 3: I'm glad.

1792
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 4: You know what that's that's that that right there is

1793
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 4: as an invasion of privacy.

1794
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: You have no privacy.

1795
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell everybody your address here in a few minutes.

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01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: No, he don't even deliver. Do you say give me please,

1797
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 1: I'll give you some.

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01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody, here's the here it is. Will we get

1799
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 4: in honor of a cold day here in a Trice state?

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01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 4: And when will it get warm never by the Indian

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01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 4: applic five hundred. Yes, we leave you with the immortal

1802
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 4: words of the stood.

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01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 3: Clearly literally. You have completely made me.

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01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 2: I don't know how to thank you enough.

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Speaker 4: Sixty seven and happy birthday to our man today, Will.

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01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 2: He's sixty seven.

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01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 4: Chris Collinsworth.

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01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: He's on Medicare taking Social Security. Is an old guy

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Speaker 1: A news radio seven hundred ww