WEBVTT - 1/15/2026 (HOUR 2) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.560 Hour two and Nobs hangs out with you at eight 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:07.400 seven seven seven nine four one nine seven three. That's 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.120 what we get all of our nikolay a lotta I'm 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.360 talking text line interaction throughout. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:12.840 Hey, guys, this one's from Steve. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.520 Do you see how we're able to start and end 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.639 the Dolphin segment without saying country music or without playing 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.639 country music. That was really good. Let that be the 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.240 norm from now on. No more country thanks, Nope, damn Steve. Okay, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.160 what was that about? Now I'm gonna double down. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.680 Say you ain't gonna tell Nobody puts baby in a corner. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:33.839 Nobody puts money in a musical corner. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.240 Oh, Steve, you might have just awoken a beast right there, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:37.839 My goods. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:40.960 Nobody asked what I played. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.040 I played Heart, playing Stairway to Heaven at the twenty 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.960 thirteen Kennedy Ier Society, and a little End of Innocence 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.240 because I played that a couple of weeks ago and 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:50.360 you were you were loving it then. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.560 So well we were talking about reminiscing too. But Steve, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.520 I gotta ask you, like, I feel attacked a bit 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.200 because a lot of usually plays Dolph's opens or He's 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.840 plays music. I've usually played country to walk Dolphin because 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.360 he's a country music guy. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.199 So yourself, I. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.399 Think it's about me, and I think it's about it's 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.199 about Yeah, okay, that's fair. 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.520 No, it's fair. I mean a lot of this show 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.640 about me, and I think, like. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.200 My question is, don't you think that that's sort of 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.640 on brand, on topic, it's topical for Dolph? 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.600 And if so, Steve, have you ever produced radio? Did 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:34.240 you know my business? Do you know? Holy cow image 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:39.560 of showing Brandon? Oh my god, whoa. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:45.000 A good armin? He said you backed up off? Do 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.920 you even know what's up? Hey, Steve, I don't know 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:52.200 what's on your that was. I don't tell you what. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.200 To listen to, Steve. I'm just kidding, Steve. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.160 I I really am this is not I'm not this guy. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.040 I'm not like getting aggress What are you talking about? 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:01.880 I appreciate you. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.800 No no, no, no no no no no no no 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.200 no no no no no no. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.440 All right, Stee, if you know what's just. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.880 Weak sauce as you could possibly be. You can't come 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.440 out here, try to act all hard old guy and 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.320 then be like I'm sorry, I apologized, but no, that 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.400 would be like if Ben Jonnson would have walked up 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:19.920 at the press. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.040 Conference and I am really sorry for actually the use, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:23.760 I would have hated that. I would have hated that 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:25.480 would have that would have made me hate the duty anymore. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.640 I respect that. Allow to drop it in, No Adam 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:29.480 and gives some smoke. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.520 But don't you backpedal like a defensive back on second 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.000 and ten before the snap? 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.280 Okay, fine, here's I'm gonna practice this better. Okay, Jason electrician, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.320 let's go. He texted in, Hey, Jason, I don't tell 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.880 you how to wire the wire the electrics. I don't 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.160 tell you how to wire the outlets, right, Okay. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:52.399 All right, nor should you? Jason? Sure that was good. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.480 Clarify Jason didn't actually tell me anything about it. He's 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.440 just said same laptop. I don't know what there is No. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.920 I really like Jason. Yeah, I like everybody with him, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.480 brew Palosa, I like everybody. I even like this is Steve, 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.640 you know, but I really like Steve. 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:05.080 Yeah. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.240 I really liked that he had you sunning him and 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:13.560 then also apologizing and then being more you really that. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.799 I just bat I just listen. But twenty twenty six 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:17.480 is the year. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.880 That's the year, you're gonna own up to I'm on 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:25.800 dunk on something dunking, then go in with a full 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.000 body chest bump into young man as you run by 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.320 down the court to play defense. Yeah, that's what it is. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.320 You're letting them know about it a little bit, tom 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.520 Mike Tomlin style. Oh it's tough chest chess away? 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.560 Is that the last time we see Mike Tomlin on 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.840 a on an NFL field? Was or last victory we 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.800 see of Mike Tomlin? Is the two hits to the 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.000 chest and the kiss away? Is that him sending off 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.560 NFL sidelines victoriously? 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.480 You know what, I don't know. I think he'll coach again. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.760 But I thought Bill Coward was gonna coach again. I 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.280 thought he was the one thought Bill. I thought he 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.600 would again destined to coach again, and I thought everyone 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.360 wanted him. I'm like, Bill Carr doesn't want to coach 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.600 anymore because I like Bill Cower a lot. You know, 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.640 I thought he was a really good coach, and I 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:10.880 guess he never wanted to. Also, like I think about Harball, right, 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.760 and you know everyone's like, all right, John Harbaugh. It's 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.360 a great pedigree he's and to coach with the Giants, 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.359 and I'm thinking it makes a lot of sense. I 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.320 know why the Giants wanted him, and I know why 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.200 he brings immediate respect and prestige and all these things. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.960 But could that turn out like Mike Shanahan went to Washington. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.080 Like Mike Shanahan won super Bowls in Denver, one two 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.719 he should have won one, won two super Bowls in Denver, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.120 and everyone's like, ah, he's available, too, Well, this is 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.120 gonna be you know what's he's sort of like the 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:34.640 coward things. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:35.680 Someone's gonna pick him up. 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.479 Washington did, but he really didn't have a great run there, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.720 So I always wonder if this will be you know, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.000 I don't want to say, like Pete Carroll in Vegas, 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.800 like one bad year, because I don't think it's like that. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.840 They're invested in Harbaugh obviously, but I wonder how it's 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.839 gonna turn out there. Like you said, believe they have talent. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.200 He is obviously a great coach, but it doesn't always 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.919 mean there's gonna be success. So yeah, you don't know 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.280 how that's gonna go. Don't know if Tomlin's gonna coach again. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.440 I do expect him to again. However, I thought the 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.919 same thing about Yeah, I really thought Coward was going 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.280 to coach again. And that's the best comparison because it's 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.040 the only two guys that know and have been in 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.440 the Steelers building and in that organization. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:10.839 That that's a that's. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.600 A heck of a jump, not just from any other 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.240 or to you know, say a dumpster fire like what 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.080 the Titans have been over the last couple of years. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.040 That's a jump to any NFL team. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.200 From the continuity, the structure, the fact that you share 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.600 a team facility with the college in town. Like there's 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.839 just some so much that's so unique about coaching the 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:39.160 Steelers that I guess if you're coaching any of the 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.600 other thirty one teams, Arman like Harball was in Baltimore, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.039 and Baltimore is a phenomenal place to work, it appears, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.280 and Steve Bashatti seems like a hilarious owner to work for. Now, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.000 maybe not as much if you're on the way out 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.600 like Harball was, where he's taking the sip of watermelon. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.560 It would have been here for a week, all right, Sorry, 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:56.560 but just let. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.760 If they would have won that game, where would he 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.120 have been? Like that whole thing was so bizarre to me, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:02.960 the shoddy thing. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.160 Sorry that was it was. It was strange. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:10.239 And so there's different there's different ways that that organizations run. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.800 But Pittsburgh is so different than all the other ones. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:14.640 Really is that. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.119 I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Tomlin doesn't coach again. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:19.679 Now. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.040 I do expect that he would want to. He's only 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:23.960 fifty three years old. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:25.599 He's got plenty of time in his career. He's got 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:26.520 plenty of time in his career. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.240 The more and more I think about it, like I 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.520 would love to hear him on TV because he had 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:34.600 so many great cliches and catchphrases and as they used 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.040 to call him tomlinisms, the more and more I think 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.560 he just does not seem like a. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.240 TV guy to me. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.920 Yeah, maybe I thought the same thing about Saban And 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.839 maybe Tomlin would just need a McAfee next to him 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.920 to allow him to have that kind of fun and 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.960 like tap into that part. But I just I don't 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.000 know that I see it being that easy for Mike 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.520 Tomlin to just let it rip like he did in 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.960 a twenty second sound bite at a press table, if 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.320 he was calling games or if he's sitting in a 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:06.640 studio with five different people. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.400 Yeah, well, we never know how different personalities come out 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.280 when these guys are in a different setting, Harry, I mean, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.040 he's been in football. Coach sitting in Saban is a 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.920 great example. I think he kind of had a different 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.440 personality on the set after a while after Pat and 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.680 all those guys lose, you know, and it's still coach Saban, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.800 but it's still We've seen him have some fun and 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.280 commercials and be funny and do the whole Aflac and 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:30.200 miss Hary thing. He's done those in the verbal Yeah, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.040 no showering, no fun. You know, it leans into it. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.360 Maybe Mike Tomlin will be that guy too. Also, don't 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.760 think he'd be necessarily bad if he didn't, But I 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.280 think and maybe to you to your point, it's a 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.120 little bit of this too. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.680 I don't know that he'd want to do it. It's 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:45.080 kind of. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.520 How I think, Like, would he be a TV guy 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.040 more than what he wanted to do the TV thing? 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.760 I'm not really sure, but it is pretty interesting. It 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.080 is interesting how these Steelers have been able to be 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.960 successful being consistent, and they're hiring practices and style through 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.640 so many. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:59.280 Changes in the game. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.080 The world you know, all these things, but I still 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.200 don't think it's gonna be able to You can't always 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.120 hire a first time coach in his thirties, have immediate success, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.920 have two decades of state lease success and absolute steadiness 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.040 and you know, no turmoil, and then just move on. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.360 It's just it's just so hard to keep doing it. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.200 Of course, that's what people were saying about the Packers 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.320 and their quarterbacks. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.040 For for sure. But I yeah, and I think that. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.720 You know, we've been talking a lot about. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:33.000 Where Harbaugh is gonna go Tomlin obviously, what coaching positions 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.760 will be filled. Where the Pittsburgh Steelers go with their 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.599 coaching position is interesting as well, Billy, I know, we 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.240 talked a little bit about the breakup. They don't want 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.320 to hire a guy with head coaching experience or whatever. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.600 It does seem like they're mo like, we're just gonna 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.920 stay the same. We're gonna hire the next great head 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.160 coach that's never head coached before. It's gonna work out great. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.760 He's gonna have a receding hairline of thirty, Like, no 0:08:52.800 --> 0:09:00.320 matter what all these got, Chuck Bill, Tomlin, they all have. Yeah, Well, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.600 he's a good looking guy. I don't think he's but 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.880 wasn't a good yeah guy, but it does have a 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.360 little bit of the sheen hair pulling back. How many guys, though, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.280 would say, like, she's here, that's good. How many guys 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.920 would say like, I saw, I'm sorry. You know, we 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.880 want you to be the coaches stealers, but just so 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.920 you know, you got to stay here for twenty years. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.200 Sorry about it. Your family's gonna live here for their 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:22.040 entire upbringing. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.439 Oh, some guys like it. That's great. You give me 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.040 a twenty year country. That's what people are praying for. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.480 Like and if you think about the best jobs available 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.800 and and you know you can localize it here as 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.719 they tell us to do in sportstock radio, right, where 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:34.920 would the Packers have lined up? 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.040 And it would have been one of the very much 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:37.840 more appealing. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.960 Jobs because they have a similar feel to them like 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.080 the Steelers do. Obviously one of the flagship franchises, but 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:53.280 a more than consistent and patient group, one that will 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.320 allow you to work through the trials and tribulations of 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.320 a first time head coach. Steelers are gonna do that, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.120 and frankly they're gonna have to because their roster has 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.960 like eight of their twenty two starters are all over 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.240 thirty three. Now, that's a lot of guys that are 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.600 gonna be different in the next three years, including the 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:17.200 three most famous players on the team in what Hayward 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.600 and Rogers, and two of those guys might have just 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.360 played their last game there, so there's a lot of 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.760 work to do. I don't necessarily know that it's the 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:28.480 number one job yet still available. I would think Atlanta 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.000 would be very much in there, but for the Packers 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.880 side of it, however, all the other jobs end up 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.520 filling the aid available. Seems like the Titans now are shifting, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.160 Albert Breuer saying that they'll move forward with an interview today. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.000 Former Packers and Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy set the 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.040 interview on Saturday. Also interviews with Robert Sala and Jonathan Gannon, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.440 former Cardinals head coach, set up there. Seems like Kevin 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.600 Stefanski's an interesting name in that search as well. Jeff 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.040 Afflee has already interviewed for the Titans job, but seems 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.520 like they might want to go offense again, young offensive 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.880 head coach. It's just that the more you see it 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.920 rolling this year, and I heard Albert Preer, who am 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:13.480 quoting here talking about it, and we mentioned it a 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:19.280 little bit of the way of doing business in football 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.240 in the NFL for the last five, six, seven years, 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.800 and hiring a coach had been all right, has he 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.559 had a cup of coffee with Sean mcvatt before? 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.640 Yeah? Has he ever interned for Kyle Shanahan Boom? 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.880 Hire him right? Like, do you have any any work 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.480 with them prior? Have you been in one of those buildings? 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.760 Do you call plays? And that was one two three 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.400 on the checklist of hiring a coach. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.320 Because basically everybody's been an offensive guy. It was the 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.440 friend group that for a while that was getting hired, right. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:54.080 Anybody that had been somewhat around one of those guys 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:54.920 was getting a look. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.160 It was like Mat Lafleur had a little taste of 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.240 that with Nathaniel Hackett ring in the mix there. So 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.400 like there's there's always gonna be trends. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:07.080 It's been such a heavy offensive trend that so many 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.160 of the first time guys. We're talking about Jef Haffley, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.120 who's very much included in this, but I think Chris Shula, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.280 who's a fascinating name, especially with the Steelers. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.480 I mean, the name is just you know there, and. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.679 You would think the Dolphins would like that one. Sula 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.600 think Dolphins would be interested in it, but you know 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.640 that would mean Stephen Rosson didn't make good decisions. You're 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:30.520 you're seeing And also there's one other, Jesse Menzer, he's 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:35.600 interviewed for. Legitimately every one of these jobs, the best 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.280 candidates on the offensive side have just been run through 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.640 over the last five years. I mean, even so many 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.480 of the retread guys that were talking about Man Naggy, 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.720 Mike McDaniel, Brian day Ball, all these guys are gonna 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.240 end up going back into an offensive coordinators and one 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.440 of them very much might come to Green Bay. And 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.680 I don't know if they'll be an offensive play calling 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.200 offensive coordinator, but I do think some outside eyes and 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.240 somebody that's been in different places over the last number 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.880 of years, some different vantage points of the football team 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.040 might be needed. There have been so many guys churned 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.280 through on the offensive side, so many defensive guys seem 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:17.080 to be ready for the gig that I'm interested to 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.800 see if indeed Mike McDonald has done a good enough 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.400 job in Seattle to convince all these other teams, we 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.640 could grab a defensive guy too, and we can be 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.560 the number one overall. So yeah, yeah, I think that 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.480 might be a trend. We've been talking about it all week. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.640 I think it's very possible to see those things. And 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.640 it also it's to your point, it's who's available. There 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:38.319 haven't been all those like great hot offensive coordinators available 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.200 this you know, this cycle, and there's so many jobs open, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.240 so it'll be interesting to see what the trends are. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.000 I don't think we know yet because the only job 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.760 has gone to a guy that's been around obviously. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.760 And he was a special teams coordinator yeah, and had 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.400 never called plays before when he got the job in Baltimore. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.840 So is this a time when position coaches make jumps 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.640 right to head coach or or maybe college coach has 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.760 changed to the ranks, or is it just coordinators offensive defensive? 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.439 Well, and christin load I said, guys, do you think 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.400 that there's a team that Marcus Freeman would jump to 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:08.600 the NFL for a name? 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.400 It keeps coming up. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.160 If he doesn't jump for the Steelers, I don't know. Yeah, right, 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.840 like that would be the easiest one to go for. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.640 It makes a lot of sense if he's if he's 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.240 going to make that leap. I also think he's pretty 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.520 set in wanting to coach the Fighting Irish in twenty six. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.600 Don't necessarily know about twenty seven, right, like, but it 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.680 seems like they have such a build and juice and 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:34.000 momentum after you know, pouting out of the pop tart 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.680 bowl and rolling into the portal grabbing a bunch of guys. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.560 It seems like he's pretty set on wanting to coach 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:41.600 at Notre Dame in twenty seven. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.520 Yeah, I saw as a recent quote, but I love 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.360 him as a candidate. I would be he would be 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.680 the top of my interview. Think a lot of fan bases. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:48.960 What I think, A lot of people like what he's 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.800 done is young, exciting, energetic. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:51.280 I know. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.040 Yeah, he just talked about leaving no doubt for nor 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.160 A Dame next year. So I agree with you. You know, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.480 one of these things, Billy Is. I think once upon 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.480 time maybe candidates would think should I take this opportunity now? 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.560 Don't know if it's gonna come up again? Not really sure. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.760 These days in the NFL, jobs are always gonna come up. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.920 There's always gonna be new opportunities, Like maybe it's not 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.640 the right one at the right time always, yeah, But 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.600 like you almost have a third of the jobs open 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.200 in the league. That's probably gonna be the way it 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.600 is most years. I think there's gonna be jobs open 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.120 all across the league. And how good everyone perceives the 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.480 job is the difference. I mean, because we haven't even 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.080 talked about like the Arizona job opening and all these 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.320 different things, and like who's gonna get hired at these places? 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.600 For lack of a better term, usually it's the leftovers 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.360 that go to some of these jobs sometimes and sometimes 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.280 those guys turn out to do a great job. But 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.840 those are opportunities for somebody that wants to make their 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.200 market in this league. So what the directions will people 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.640 will teams go in that? What will the money look like? 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.880 Those things are always interesting. We don't exactly know the money. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.640 They're making all the time. We very much don't. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.280 And that's part of that that I think people don't 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.400 think about because they don't they don't know about it. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.920 I think most fans just assume the coaches get paid, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:56.920 but they get paid and that's it. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.080 But I think that's a factor as well. 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.280 So it's gonna be a very curious there's upcoming days here. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.560 There's also other places where like when when Halfley left 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.800 college to go to the NFL and and left the 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.440 head coaching job to be a coordinator. I mean, BC 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:16.080 is a difficult place to win. Acc tough spot to win, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.680 very difficult academic standards. Uh you know, some level of expectation, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.440 but there's only so much that you're gonna be able 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.440 to do in that uh location. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:26.960 So it's a tough spot to win. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.800 He did a good job, not necessarily a great job, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:34.000 and then and then moves on because the separation of 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.040 having haves nots in college football will only get increase 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:38.720 even more. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.120 I mean, Notre Dame is one of the halves. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.760 If there's if there is an organization in college sports 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.800 that is more of a have, I'd like to know, 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.440 especially now that they got this sweet handshake deal. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.720 You all go ten and two, you make playoffs? 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.240 Sweet Yeah, Okay, all I gotta do is win ten games, 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.960 all right. I gotta win eight games because I get 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.680 to play Stanford and Navy every year. That to me 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.280 is a tough thing to pass up. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.359 It's a tough thing to pass on. It's not an 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.640 easy it's not an easy. 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.040 Ye, it is when it's the Naval Academy, So like that, 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.600 that's a difficult thing to pass up and then go 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.200 to the NFL, where, for sure, whatever your contract is, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.240 you'll get guaranteed cash, but your guarantees of success are 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.640 far far less than it'll ever be at Notre Dame. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:25.000 That's true. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.199 You think that's why they were so upset that they 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:27.679 didn't make the playoff this year because they thought they 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.800 had to deal. But it's like, I thought we had 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.879 an understanding here. I thought we had to You know 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.320 what's funny. The Norre Dame job is such a destination 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.080 job for most people that when you get it so young, 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.200 that can be kind of a challenge, right, because it's 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:43.040 like Marcus Freeman's like probably thought, never thought in. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.840 His mind he'd want any other job than a job 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:45.480 like Notre Dame. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.560 But it's like when you get it so young, it's like, Okay, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.960 can I sustain this situation for like the rest of 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:51.480 my career? 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.160 Could I stay here? Do I want to stay here? 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.400 When you have a lot of success early or are 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.800 we going to match this level forever early success? 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.320 So you're gonna have expectations for three decades. It almost 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.479 seems impossible to do something like that. Like even coaches 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.159