1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Mister New York. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Here's more Marks alone on seven ten wo r Well 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Roger Friedman, the great entertainment reporter. His website showbiz for 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: one one dot com. You should check it every day. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: There's always new stuff up there. Showbiz for one one 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: dot com. Roger Friedman, how you doing. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: I'm great, Good morning. How are you, Mark? 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm good? Little stuffed over eating that Super Bowl stuff 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: those parties. I know, what do you think? The game 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: was pretty boring? But what'd you think of the rest 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: of it? 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: I thought the Bad Bunny was fabulous. I thought the 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: show was beautifully produced. I liked all the acts before that. 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: I thought Green Day was terrific and Brandy Carlisle and 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: I loved Coco Jones. 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: You know it was great. It's the toughest thing to 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: do nationalistm you know it was great. Was Charlie Pooth? 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: He was really good. 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: Charliepooth was excellent. He was excellent. But and I love 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: to the he set up all that gospel choir. 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: But what the hell was he wearing that beat up 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: leather jacket. He looked like a munks in the cab 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: driver on all in the family. What was he wearing 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: it's the super Bowl, put a nice jacket on. 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Somebody should have addressed him, but 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: he did. But musically it was very good, and he 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: said it was a tribute to Whitney Houston, who did 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: the best one of all. 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: So h so that was very nice. 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: And then Bad Bunny with Lady Gaga was fabulous and 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 3: Ricky Martin was a really nice nod. This Bad Bunny 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: is such a respecting, respectful guy and he knows that 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: Ricky Martin is the biggest star. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: In Puerto Rico. 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: So he had him on and and his whole it 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: was g It was like g rated. 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: It was so uh well wholesome. 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: It was in Spanish. Who knows what he was saying, 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: but you know what the problem. 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: We can tell it. I know everyone's complaining that they 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: weren't subtitles. 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: Now here's the problem with Bad Bunny in today's world. 43 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: This guy's the biggest starring will but half the audience 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: doesn't know who the hell he is. And you could have. 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, Mark, he sold like ten million albums 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: last year. 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but if you go to people over 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: forty five, they don't know who he is. Fifty they 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: don't know who he is, you know, in the good. 50 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: Old days forty six, Well, I know who he is. 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: No, But in the good old days you have the 52 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Rolling Stones. Everybody loved them, Billy Joel, everybody. There's no 53 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: such thing as a mainstream artist anymore. That every demo 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: everybody knows. 55 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: No, that's hard to do. That, that's definitely hard to do. 56 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: And you can't get those listen, these people bad bunnies 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: in his I don't know, thirties. You can't get these 58 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: eighty year old people to come out and perform at 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,559 Speaker 3: the halftime. Yeah, but there's nose to start developing younger acts. 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: You know, like take where I'm sitting right now here 61 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: at iHeart. We got Z one hundred over there. We 62 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: got Q one o four down there, the plays classic rock. 63 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: We got Power one oh five. There's no artist that 64 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: could be played on every station. Each one has their 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: own music. They're all separated. 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Wow. So when we were growing up, when we were 67 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: growing up in. 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: The radio, we would listen to WABC and they'd play 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: a country song, an R and B song, a rock song, 70 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: a pop song. It was all like but you know, 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: as you're right, it's splintered into all these different genres 72 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: and it's sort of sad in a way because we 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: learned a lot about other music when we used to 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: listen to the radio and now they can't do that. 75 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: But if you go back to them, like the nineteen 76 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: sixty Super Bowls halftime was like Andy Williams, can you imagine? 77 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: You can't even picture of that. 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: But no, they had Al Hurt in nineteen sixty seven. 79 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: They had Al Hurt play the horn. 80 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: He was a trumpet player from New Orleans. He had 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: a couple of hit singles. 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah. 83 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Here's the other problem. The commercials, which were phenomenal, had 84 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: very little impact. I think the problem is in today's world, 85 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: there's a million videos, AI videos on TikTok, Instagram, me 86 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: get thousands of the day, So after all of that, 87 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: the commercials don't impression anymore. 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: The commercials have been diluted, there's no question about it. 89 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: And I really could not stand the one with Ben 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Affleck sending up Goodwill Hunting, and it's really interesting because 91 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: he had all these like weird TV stars in it, 92 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: but he didn't have Mac Damon who was in Goodwill 93 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: Hunting with him. And they won the Oscar together for 94 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: writing the screenplay. I think Mac Damon said I'll sit 95 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: this one out because that was a big mistake and 96 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: it made goodwill. Hunting is a great movie, and they 97 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: made it seem silly, you know, and it's enough with 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: Ben Affleck and Dunc and. 99 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Donuts, really enough. Hey, Roger Freeman, have you been reading 100 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: through the Epstein files? 101 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: I have been reading a lot of the Epstein files. 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: Through there. 103 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing about Woody Allen, nothing bad. The thing 104 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: is that nothing bad, but you know that. 105 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: Look Jack lenn who's the French cultural minister, he's in 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: it too. What Jeffrey Epstein did, which was a terrible thing, 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: as it turns out, is that he was giving all 108 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: these people money and attention and they were taking it 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: and they didn't know what was going on. They didn't 110 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: go to the island, they didn't do any of that stuff. 111 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: They didn't know about the girls. But Jeffrey Epstein was 112 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: offering them a chance. As we would say, some of 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: your listeners listeners will know this word snoring. A lot 114 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: of these people were schnoring off of Jeffrey Epstein. He 115 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: was offering them plane rides and dinners and making phone 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: call influential phone calls for them, and everybody was saying 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: yes because they thought, why not, he's not asking for 118 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: anything in return. 119 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Well, so all he really. 120 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: Wanted was he was sort of he was. What he 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: was doing was paying everyone to be his influential friends. 122 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: I mean the only he had doing you wanted to 124 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: if you're Woody Allen, you had he who would have 125 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: a dinner party with a bunch of CEOs. You had 126 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: to come to his dinner and sit there and impress 127 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: everybody that you were there. Uh, he had to come 128 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: to a few lunches that kind of stuff. 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: Yo. 130 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: I know what he pretty well, and I know, listen, 131 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: what do you and siny? They have no other fault 132 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: except that, like everybody in Hollywood, they want a free dinner. Yeah, well, 133 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: actually in Hollywood wants a free dinner. 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: Apparently he's looking for financing for his movies. But you 135 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: know in every Broadway show, the way they raise money, Yeah, 136 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: they raised money by getting these New Jersey housewives with 137 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: money to put in five hundred thousand seven, Oh my god. 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: And they have to pretend that they're the producers. 139 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: And listen to these people. 140 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: That's I recently went through something like that, or I 141 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: listened to people doing that. 142 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but you know, but there's all these people. 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Uh, there are a lot of people in there who 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: I think are actually kind of victims. 145 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: Not the women. 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: I mean the women thing is serious with the women 147 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: who are trafficked, but these other people were sort of 148 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: victimized too because they didn't understand what Jeffrey Epstein was 149 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: doing to them. 150 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: He was really evil. 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I made the Epstein Files. 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Did your congratulations? 153 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Nothing bad? Nothing bad, just harmless. 154 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: Nothing bad. 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: No? Now was the other Was he just a fan? 156 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Did he listen to the show? 157 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: No? But apparently there was an email between him and 158 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: Jackie Martling talking about listening to this show. And then 159 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: there was another one where I was going to come 160 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: to a lunch where I was the MC. But that's all, Huh. 161 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: All he wanted to do is go to parties, Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, 162 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: he wanted to go to parties day and night. And 163 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: he didn't care. He was using everyone in town. Howard Rubinstein, 164 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: who was like a famous publicist, you know, public relations guy, 165 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: was his publicist. 166 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: So he was keeping his. 167 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: Name of the New York Post but getting him into 168 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: things that he wanted to go to Hey. 169 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: We only got a minute left. Our talk shows dying. 170 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: They've just canceled a whole bunch of the top daytime 171 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: talk shows. Sherry Shephard, Kelly Clarkson is at the end 172 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: of the talk show? Is it? 173 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: We're coming to the end of this we've had We've 174 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: been seeing them for forty years or fifty years. And 175 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: what's happened is with streaming and all the different things, 176 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: and you know, they're expensive to produce, and now we're 177 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: down to really just Jennifer Hudson has her show, Tameron 178 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: Hall has a show, and Drew Barrymore. We used to have, 179 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, Phil Donaghue and Oprah and Sally Jesse, Raphael. 180 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: We had tons and tons of these shows, but they're 181 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: expensive to produce, and the stations are finding that it's 182 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: cheaper just to put on the news all day, just 183 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: like See It n They just put on the news 184 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: and they have, you know, a correspondence running around in 185 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: Queens telling you what's going on, and it doesn't cost anything. 186 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: It's not the same cost as flying in movie stars 187 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: and that kind of thing. 188 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: So we are seeing sort of the decline of it. 189 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: Definitely long way from Merv Griffin and Mike Douglas. 190 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: But oh my, those were the days. 191 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: There you go, well, great stuff, Roger Friedman, thanks for 192 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: being with us. Make sure you check out his website 193 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: Showbiz four one one dot com and check out every 194 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: day there's always new stuff. Showbiz four one one dot com. 195 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Roger Friedman, thanks for being with us. Thank you, take care. Hey, 196 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: I don't forget Buck and Clay at noon today. I 197 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: love that show every day from noon to three. Then 198 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: you got Sean Hannity, the most listened to radio show 199 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: in America at three, got Jesse Kelly at six, and 200 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: now every night at nine o'clock you can listen to 201 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy Fayala, great show, very funny, every night at nine 202 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,479 Speaker 2: on seven ten wor