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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening. If you just joined us, I'm Braday Jay

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Speaker 2: for Dan tonight and about ten o'clock, Boston Globe music

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Speaker 2: writer Jim Sullivan joins us to regale us with forty

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Speaker 2: five years of rock chats and rants. He's got a

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Speaker 2: book and he's had some wonderful experiences and he's going

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Speaker 2: to share some of them great stories. Also, I'd be

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Speaker 2: really curious when we get there at ten o'clock to

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Speaker 2: hear about maybe one of your brushes with rock and

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Speaker 2: roll greatness. Do you ever meet anybody? Did you meet

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Speaker 2: your did you meet your idol? Did you regret it?

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Speaker 2: Was it a good experience? You know they say don't

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Speaker 2: never meet your idols. There's something to that actually, or

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Speaker 2: maybe you had a good experience. But that's what we'll

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Speaker 2: be doing from from ten and maybe ten on. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime, it's time to call an audible. I had

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Speaker 2: a topic, but in view this big news event like

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Speaker 2: the government opening up, I probably better allow that as well.

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Speaker 2: So probably the thing to do is just call it

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Speaker 2: open lines and we can con There was definitely momentum

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Speaker 2: on the last topic where we had a compelling hour

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Speaker 2: talking about the war against pedestrians, and in a specific way,

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Speaker 2: we talked to Lynn Forrester, who was struck down quite

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Speaker 2: literally by a knee bike, med flighted to Mass General

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Speaker 2: and is recovering from multiple, multiple serious injuries. We hope

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Speaker 2: she's recovering. We don't even know that. And I am

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Speaker 2: I am really, and I guess and I hate to

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Speaker 2: use the word activist because it's got a lot of

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Speaker 2: baggage goes with it, but I am working hard to

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Speaker 2: regulate micromobility vehicles, anything with power and a couple of wheels.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, I want gas powered motorcycles and fast

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Speaker 2: e bikes out of bike lanes so they can be

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Speaker 2: used by oh, I don't know, bicycles. And I want

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Speaker 2: the stand up scooters East scooters which can go thirty

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Speaker 2: miles an hour, and bicycles, regular bles, bicycles off sidewalks. So,

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Speaker 2: in case you haven't heard, we get back to government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: House past funding bill to end record long government shutdown.

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Speaker 2: It's look alike. The President will sign it. I'm guessing yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe nine forty five, but everything's delayed a little bit

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Speaker 2: nine fifty. We're gonna well, we'll let you know that

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Speaker 2: that's what we do. And it was the longest shutdown

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Speaker 2: in history. Going to the President's office, the vote was

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Speaker 2: if I I recollect to twenty two on the AA

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Speaker 2: and two o nine on the nay. And you may say,

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Speaker 2: Bradley Jay, what do you think? All right, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you just can't have a government shutdown. It's not the

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Speaker 2: time or place to get what you need. It's just wrong.

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Speaker 2: You can't hold us house as, you can't shut down airports,

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Speaker 2: you can't not pay workers, and I don't think you

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Speaker 2: should be taking advantage of advantage of it to fire

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Speaker 2: a bunch of people. So you just can't have it.

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Speaker 2: You just got to stop it. And whatever you hope

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Speaker 2: to accomplish by hanging in, you got it. You've got

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Speaker 2: to try to do it a different way. I myself,

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Speaker 2: healthcare is high on my list. Maybe it's because I'm

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Speaker 2: it's my age, but I hate to see health care

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Speaker 2: taken away. And I can't believe. I'm sort of surprise

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Speaker 2: it's not more of a an issue, you know, a

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Speaker 2: thing for the right. I would think that they would

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Speaker 2: be more into and to keep keeping health care affordable.

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Speaker 2: But Hey, what do I know? So if you're into

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Speaker 2: mentioning that, I certainly give you the opportunity to weigh

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Speaker 2: in on that. I am curious was anybody affected by it?

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Speaker 2: I mean that does matter. If no one was affected

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Speaker 2: by it, then who cares if it's shut down or not?

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Speaker 2: But there a shutdown inserts its long, hairy tentacles deep

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Speaker 2: underneath where we even realize it goes. So, yay, it's over.

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Speaker 2: What will the fallout be? I will ask you this.

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Speaker 2: It's been asked before, but now that it's over, I

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Speaker 2: guess it's appropriate to ask it again. Who's who's the

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Speaker 2: culpritten this, who's the heavy? Who's the bad person? A

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Speaker 2: bad entity in the government shutdown? And of course six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. But you may be burned out talking about that.

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Speaker 2: And you've heard nothing about that on the news, nothing

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Speaker 2: but that on national news for the longest time. You

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Speaker 2: could definitely be burned out on it. But the floor

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Speaker 2: is open to you if you want to talk up,

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Speaker 2: first hour, a compelling hour, extremely compelling hour, and if

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Speaker 2: you don't mind, I think probably an effective audio letter

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Speaker 2: that you can send to your legislator. I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's a hassle to write a letter to your town,

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Speaker 2: your town meeting members, or your town whatever you call

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Speaker 2: your town officials. Different towns have different names, and it's

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Speaker 2: difficult and who do you send it to, etc. About

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Speaker 2: I did my part. I gave you an audio letter

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Speaker 2: in that first hour that you can send. You can

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Speaker 2: who makes decisions in your town. Most towns have transportation

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Speaker 2: boards or transportation committees. Find out everyone on that committee,

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Speaker 2: find their email it's listed, and send that hour to them.

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Speaker 2: It will be probably more effective than any letter you

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Speaker 2: could write because it has a personal, human story of

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Speaker 2: someone who lives among us and had no idea that

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Speaker 2: their life would be almost over. And it is probably

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Speaker 2: forever altered or maybe forever altered, as she was struck

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Speaker 2: down by an e bike. So Rob, what is it?

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Speaker 2: It's nightside on demand, right, that's what they google? Is

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Speaker 2: that simple? My friends, google nightside on demand, keep that

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Speaker 2: link there and then go to your town and for

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Speaker 2: once in your life, go in there, take the time

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Speaker 2: to find the emails and send it out. As a

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, you may want to create a Gmail

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Speaker 2: list or whatever email server you use, so you have

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Speaker 2: those emails on tap for whatever you want to complain

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Speaker 2: about or whatever. But again, in a town, in a

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Speaker 2: state that requires you know, it's kind of legally paternalistic.

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Speaker 2: It's your dad, this state, dad says. Where a seat belt?

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Speaker 2: Dad says, well, a child must have an approved car

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Speaker 2: needs to say hey, And this is the concise version again,

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Speaker 2: bike lanes, bicycles and stand up motor scooters off of sidewalks,

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Speaker 2: all powered micromobility registered, and I suppose you might as

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Speaker 2: well register the regular bicycles. Why not? What's the beef

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Speaker 2: with that? And all powered vehicles must in order to

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Speaker 2: operate one and have the registration, you must have proof

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Speaker 2: of insurance. It's not that hard, and it's really really serious.

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Speaker 2: Recent fatality in Copley Square, the situation down in Harwich.

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Speaker 2: disasters that are happening all over the country. Poor man

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Speaker 2: down in Pennsylvania. Something a little more. I won't go

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Speaker 2: immediate danger. And again we hear about the war on Christmas. Well,

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Speaker 2: now it's a war on pedestrians. So much money has

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Speaker 2: gone to placate the bicycle lobby with good reason. You

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Speaker 2: know there are reasons. There are benefits to getting cars

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, and one other thing I forgot to mention

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Speaker 2: costs too much money. No it doesn't, not too much

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Speaker 2: for what it will give you. It's a real thing. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's not just some small detail. It's going to require enforcement.

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Speaker 2: It is dangerous for you to walk your dog, walk

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Speaker 2: with your mother, your child out and crossroads with and

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Speaker 2: you've all seen it, especially in an urban area. Not

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Speaker 2: disregard for the law that we all see. It has

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Speaker 2: to stop. There is this, in addition to really codifying

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Speaker 2: the new laws. While it is maybe beyond some town's

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Speaker 2: ability to constantly enforce. As you may have learned in

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Speaker 2: your SSIK one on one class, intermittent reinforcement can work

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Speaker 2: better than constant reinforcement. Do you remember this class? You

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Speaker 2: had a bird go peck the that lever and every

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Speaker 2: seed or whatever. And when that's stops, the bird will

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Speaker 2: keep the behavior up for so long. But if that

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Speaker 2: would continue to behavior longer. So intermittent reinforcement is a

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Speaker 2: real thing. So it's open line six, one, seven, two,

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Speaker 2: get to Jim Sullivan on WBZ.

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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Speaker 2: Great to have you with us here at WBZ Bradley

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Speaker 2: j for Dan Ray tonight on the Night Side. I'm

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Speaker 2: calling it open lines now because I want to make

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Speaker 2: sure you have room to comment on the the the

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Speaker 2: impending end of the government shutdown. Were you affected in

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Speaker 2: any way? And who do you blame? Generally, I don't

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Speaker 2: do these topics, but if not, now, when who do

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Speaker 2: you blame? Do you blame. Maybe you feel for both sides.

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Speaker 2: I gotta admit I'm a little erke that they're. There

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Speaker 2: are some legislators that were what they went. They didn't

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Speaker 2: What I mean. If they didn't get paid paid, maybe

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Speaker 2: they'd be a little less likely to tolerate a shutdown

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Speaker 2: or foment a shutdown. And as I mentioned open lines.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the original thing that I was going to

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Speaker 2: of the government shutdown. That is this. It might be

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Speaker 2: a matter of honesty. Social media stuff matters a lot.

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Speaker 2: Now before I start, this is a message to what's

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Speaker 2: the word golden angels. That's a terrible word. Upper demo, Nah,

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Speaker 2: no good, But you know who I mean, Basically folks

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Speaker 2: who'd never got on the computer band think, ah, it's

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Speaker 2: too complicated, all right, it's too late for me to

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Speaker 2: you have to learn the computer. You have to learn

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Speaker 2: time to be self sufficient and learn how to use

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Speaker 2: the internet. You just have to. Now, I say that

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Speaker 2: because what we're talking about until ten o'clock. Well, one

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Speaker 2: of the things is the following. This is my question, right,

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Speaker 2: This is how I frame the topic. I'll frame it

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Speaker 2: as a pole question. It goes like this, true or not?

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Speaker 2: True or false? Yes or no? It is dishonest to

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Speaker 2: post a picture of yourself as a social media profile

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Speaker 2: picture that is old. Is it dishonest to post an

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Speaker 2: old picture of yourself as a social media profile photo? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Or no? Is it uncool? Is it acceptable? This is

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Speaker 2: something you should do. Here are the two sides, the

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Speaker 2: two schools of thought. We'll take a quick pull six one, seven, two, five,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. By the way, yes, here's the yes camp. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Some would say that you are misrepresenting yourself and that

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Speaker 2: you're telling people you are ashamed of the way you

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Speaker 2: currently look, and that this does more social harm for you.

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Speaker 2: It kind of chews up any any social media equity.

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Speaker 2: You might have. People say, ummmm, what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Why why you have that weird old picture of you?

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Speaker 2: You don't look like that. They might say it straight

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Speaker 2: up dishonest, a lie, and can kind of fishing in

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Speaker 2: the social media Internet use of the word fishing to

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Speaker 2: gain admires under false pretense. On the other hand, no,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I always love hearing from you. Gary.

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Speaker 2: So why will they be saved?

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Speaker 2: a Third World War breaks out because of deep fakes

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Speaker 2: made by Chad GPT. I don't even want to say

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Speaker 2: the word voice the words, because it's not probably a

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Speaker 2: good idea to say how that might happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 2: See how it could cause World War three, and so

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Speaker 2: Borneo would be out of luck.

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Speaker 4: Cloud goes over to them.

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Speaker 2: Even in New Jersey would be at risk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sure, Now I'm watching the news I got I

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Speaker 4: usually watched. I told Dan, I watched the news. I

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Speaker 4: put on my big screen. I can put four different

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Speaker 4: stations on and then I play music and uh, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't listen to anything. Out of the

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Speaker 4: corner of my eye. Every now and then i'll see something.

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Speaker 4: I'll see something on there that catches my eye. And

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Speaker 4: tonight it was, uh, it was my senator from Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 4: John Fetterman. I don't know if you saw him on

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Speaker 4: do his interview on DNN and no, no, I didn't

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Speaker 4: the big hook. They were trying to put the big

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Speaker 4: hook get him off of there because the lady that

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Speaker 4: was interviewing him was asking him about you know, this

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Speaker 4: shutdown and everything, and our senator over here, John Fetterman. Uh.

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Speaker 4: He told her like it was. He said, listen, the

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Speaker 4: only reason why the government shut down is because these

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Speaker 4: people wanted to act like they were big tough guys

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Speaker 4: to Trump.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I did see that.

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Speaker 4: I did see that. It's funny when they when they

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Speaker 4: bring somebody on one of these new news stations and

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00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: they're thinking what they're gonna hear, and then they go

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Speaker 4: ahead and say completely different things. Uh, it's interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's that's funny stuff for me to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know what you're gonna get with him.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. And he was talking about blue sky.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what blue sky is. There must be

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Speaker 4: something blue sky like a Internet saying, I don't did

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Speaker 4: you know what blue sky is?

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Speaker 2: I just recently heard it. I saw it. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I cannot what it is like that.

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Speaker 4: It's like Twitter, Twitter was yeah, right right, right, right, okay,

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Speaker 4: something like that. But John John Fetterman, when the lady

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Speaker 4: asked him, well, how how was you know? How were they?

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Speaker 4: How are they treating you? And he said, well that

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Speaker 4: blue sky is the worst. And she she she made

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Speaker 4: the mistake by saying, well what kind of things did

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Speaker 4: they send you? Did you? Did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: Negative?

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Speaker 4: It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable the stuff that that

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Speaker 4: they were sending Fetterman, because you know Fetterman, uh said

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Speaker 4: about a week ago, he said, listen, he said, let's

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Speaker 4: stop this nonsense. Let's get this country back open. And uh,

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Speaker 4: and then he started getting this hate mail through this

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Speaker 4: blue sky outfit, and it was it was unbelievable the

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Speaker 4: stuff that he was getting to eat. And anyway, anywaysman

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Speaker 4: Betterman had to admit he says, you know, he said

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Speaker 4: this whole thing was just done for for, you know,

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Speaker 4: so that the far left, like John Fretterman said, the

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Speaker 4: far left can can uh make people believe that, you know,

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00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: they're really tough on Trump. But he said, you know,

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Speaker 4: us Democrats, we don't have any power. Okay, we don't

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Speaker 4: have any leadership. And he says, we don't have any

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Speaker 4: new ideas. That's a Democrat saying that.

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Speaker 2: That's not good. Hey, Bill, I gotta break that's good

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Speaker 2: at all. Thanks so much for the great call. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. I hope to talk to you next time.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks brother. Bye. WBZ News Radio ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news Radio.

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Speaker 2: We go rather to Jay for Dan Knight's side, and

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Speaker 2: we go to Mike and Twksbury. Kind of open lines here. Mike,

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Speaker 2: you're first on BZ.

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Speaker 5: Hey Bradley, yep. I couldn't believe it tonight when I

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00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 5: turned on the radio and I heard your voice. I

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00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: haven't heard you in a long long time. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's really great hearing you on the radio waves again.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, it's great to be here.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I have a bleast doing doing the

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Speaker 2: talk radio with WBZ. It's my fast one.

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Speaker 5: Did you restart coming to work is part time?

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Speaker 2: I would say June? Maybe? Wow, So I.

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Speaker 5: Haven't heard you since June. I missed and missed you.

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00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: Well, you have been on off and on since then.

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Speaker 2: It's been great.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you something. I've been to busy

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Speaker 5: listener for a long long time. I go way back

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Speaker 5: to Larry Click. Anyways, I also used to listen to

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Speaker 5: Non Nathan and Lavelle Diet And I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 5: You're right up there with those people. You're really good, Bradley.

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Speaker 5: I hated to see when the station let you go.

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Speaker 2: Originally it all worked out for the best, and I

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00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: really really appreciate that. I don't mean to cut you off, Mike,

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00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: but I have three folks to get to and I

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00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: want to get everybody in. Don't think I don't appreciate

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Speaker 2: that that though. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: All right, good luck, Bradley.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye, Linda and way Matt way Mouth, how do you.

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Speaker 6: Do, Linda, Hi, clearing up a throat issue a little

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Speaker 6: bit off what you've been talking about. But I met

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Speaker 6: up with the Gronk years back.

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Speaker 2: Really, how'd that happen?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: I worked at the government Center as a VA gopher

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Speaker 6: and city Hall plaza. I was out at the farmer's

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00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 6: market and this big man was kind of in the

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Speaker 6: back of me and I kind of was doing my

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Speaker 6: thing and I was over something and the other people

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Speaker 6: behind him were all wearing black glasses. And I'm not

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Speaker 6: sure how I found out it was the Gonk. Maybe

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Speaker 6: someone said, Hey, that's the Gonk, and so I just

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Speaker 6: introduced myself, said Hi. Didn't get an autograph or anything,

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Speaker 6: but I met him up close.

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Speaker 2: Did you give him any football advice or anything like that?

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Speaker 6: I slew. I didn't really know back then. I really

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Speaker 6: didn't know too much on the you know, on the

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Speaker 6: subject there.

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Speaker 2: But I just.

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Speaker 6: That's in being in his presence. He was the gentimentally.

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Speaker 6: Did you have him back?

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Speaker 2: Did you get the sense of people in dark glasses

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Speaker 2: or bodyguards?

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00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: Very much?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 6: They were big hucksky guys too.

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Speaker 2: Was he nice?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, very pleasant. I'm not sure what he bought

554
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Speaker 6: her or what I think I kept that up the

555
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Speaker 6: line and let him go ahead, and I just chatted

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Speaker 6: with him and moved on my way.

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Speaker 2: He always seems nice. I've actually never met him, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of interesting, but he always seems also ahead. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm done.

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Speaker 6: I was also met somebody a baseball player that was

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Speaker 6: well known that lived in the area. And I don't

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Speaker 6: recall his name.

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Speaker 2: Okay, modern times.

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Speaker 6: Yes, but one time, well maybe back ten years, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I guess that is sure. I'm gonna have I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: have to check out for a baseball a phusiastico or

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Speaker 6: how do you have every pinounce it and find out

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Speaker 6: who it was. I recognize his name if I heard it,

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Speaker 6: but it doesn't go on my automatic recall. But anyways, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the blank was very president. I'm glad to have him back,

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Speaker 6: and glad he's retiring with his people.

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Speaker 2: Well, Linda, I thank you for sharing that. Well, good

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Speaker 2: day is Linda and Weymouth. I here's a little tidbit.

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Speaker 2: I waited on Jim Rice one time when I worked

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Speaker 2: at TGI Fridays in the eighties. It was well, I

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Speaker 2: won't I won't make any comments, but that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: I've waited on Jim Rice. Oh, whatever that's worth. Let's

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Speaker 2: tuck to Karen in Wisconsin. Karen, how do you do?

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Speaker 6: Bradley?

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Speaker 7: Some of us have some challenges that are different, just different,

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Speaker 7: and I don't want to get I don't have kids,

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Speaker 7: and I don't have people that around me that have

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Speaker 7: time to show me everything, and they don't have books,

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Speaker 7: and I don't want to get on that internet and

585
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Speaker 7: then hurt someone because I didn't understand something, and you know,

586
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 7: and then they get in trouble. So I'm just sticking

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Speaker 7: up for those of us that have other challenges and

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Speaker 7: I'm good at a lot of things, and I'm not

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Speaker 7: really You may have jumped in the lake with those

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Speaker 7: leeches and they might have eaten me to death, but

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Speaker 7: you took the chance. I'm trying to learn, but I'm

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Speaker 7: worn out.

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Speaker 6: There you go fight ten?

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Speaker 2: Is that true? Okay, Well, thank you for that, and

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00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: all right, there's the case for not learning how to

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Speaker 2: use the computer and the internet. But you're not going

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00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: to hurt anybody, and somebody could teach you. You could

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Speaker 2: find somebody. They have places that will teach you if

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Speaker 2: you really wanted to, and it might be fun for you. Now,

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Speaker 2: the news on WBZ