Speaker 1: All right, here we go back on the Big one,
Speaker 1: seven hundred double Christmas See Eddie and Rocky Show, three
Speaker 1: hours of live radio coming at you.
Speaker 2: Wait like a damn Carol.
Speaker 1: Jason Williams in for Eddie and Rocky, and I said live,
Speaker 1: little live radio, Eddie, little extra PiZZ Hey, It's I'm
Speaker 1: fired up. It's Christmas Eve. It's great to be here.
Speaker 1: It's also a Wednesday, and on the Eddie and Rocky
Speaker 1: Show on Wednesday, that always means Wednesdays with Willy, Willy
Speaker 1: and Willie is here now, Bill.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you, sir, How are you merry Christmas? Son?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what, Dan and Jays. I'm living
Speaker 3: on the fat of calf. Getting ready for a little
Speaker 3: candlelight buffet dinner tonight at Kenwick Country Club, and then
Speaker 3: we're going to go to Mass and our Lady of
Speaker 3: Victory to acknowledge the real reason for Christmas. Then come
Speaker 3: back home late tonight and uh go to bed, get
Speaker 3: up and hopefully I have more family members over. It
Speaker 3: can't get much better than this. Boys, we're always complaining
Speaker 3: and moan, but this is the greatest country, the greatest time,
Speaker 3: and the greatest men. And women to be around. I've
Speaker 3: ever been congratulations on both of your successes and God
Speaker 3: bless you, and God bless America.
Speaker 2: God bless America. Let's Bill.
Speaker 1: I want to recap some of the some of the
Speaker 1: breaking news that happened yesterday. Right around this time, we
Speaker 1: were getting the statement from the prosecutor Connie Pillach talking
Speaker 1: about how the corner of lacksmis Marco had made an
Speaker 1: air in the way she was looking at the files
Speaker 1: of the of Elwood Jones and his victim. And we
Speaker 1: also later on heard from the corner saying that she
Speaker 1: didn't use the word mistake in her press release, but
Speaker 1: she had a couple of different things going on there.
Speaker 1: To my way of thinking, Bill, this issue with the hepatitis,
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to me that the guilt or innocence
Speaker 1: of Elwood Jones really pivots on this particular issue. And
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't have hepatitis, it seems to me
Speaker 1: they're the evidence far out weighs beyond a reasonable doubt
Speaker 1: that he's the one who committed this crime.
Speaker 3: Well as Jason knows, I'll rephrase the comments of Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 3: what difference does it make? And the answer is no, difference.
Speaker 3: And that's according to the defense medical experts, who said
Speaker 3: that there's only a thirty percent chance or less, assuming
Speaker 3: that Rhoda had hepatitis B, and assuming that Elwood didn't
Speaker 3: have it and edwarll Elwood punched her a teeth into
Speaker 3: her stomach, which he did, there's only a thirty percent
Speaker 3: chance that Rhoda is so called hep B would get
Speaker 3: into the body of Elwood. So this is seventy percent
Speaker 3: chance that wouldn't so if anything do. For anyone to
Speaker 3: say that it excludes him is wrong. And last me,
Speaker 3: some Marco as you know, came on with me and
Speaker 3: you're good friend Gary Jeff Walker and said that the odds,
Speaker 3: shall we say, of a transmission is well less than
Speaker 3: thirty percent. It's probably in the four to five percent range.
Speaker 3: So to anyone to hang their hat on the hook
Speaker 3: that allegedly Rhoda who's dead, had he be her family
Speaker 3: disputes that and all of a sudden it didn't go
Speaker 3: to Elwood, that issue is just positive, like DNA is wrong.
Speaker 3: More important than that is the fact that when the
Speaker 3: couple came up from the buffet breakfast and first looked
Speaker 3: at their friend, Rotea's body. The first thing the woman
Speaker 3: said to her husband was, look, they took her diamond
Speaker 3: necklace too, And that diamond necklace was worn to her
Speaker 3: permanently because the class in the back was too small
Speaker 3: to work with. And so even when she took a shower,
Speaker 3: which she did that day, she kept it on. And
Speaker 3: where did the authorities find the diamond brooch necklace in the.
Speaker 4: Toolbox of Eltwood?
Speaker 3: Jones and so explain Rhydle me that one batman, how
Speaker 3: could anyone plant the evidence which nobody would do with
Speaker 3: you think Joe Dieters and that Blue Ash Police and
Speaker 3: Mark Pete Meyer would plant evidence to make sure that
Speaker 3: a guilty man was set free and that an innocent man,
Speaker 3: Elwood was convicted.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: But the braceleb sorry, the necklace was out of the
Speaker 3: possession of the Blue Ash Police before they arrived. It
Speaker 3: was gone, and it was found in the toolbox of Elwood.
Speaker 3: And secondly, that the boxer virus that you only get
Speaker 3: when you punch somebody in the mouth because there's bacteria.
Speaker 3: The gum line got into the body of Elwood testified
Speaker 3: to buy a hand specialist. He had it and he
Speaker 3: never had an explanation.
Speaker 4: Of how he hurt his hand.
Speaker 3: He hurt his hand by smashing it into the skull
Speaker 3: and teeth of Rhoda. That's how he hurt his hand.
Speaker 3: He told two or three different stories to co workers.
Speaker 3: His hand was all wrapped up. On top of that,
Speaker 3: On top of that, Jason, this guy was a burg
Speaker 3: He beat up woman, He beat up cops. He went
Speaker 3: to prison twice, and he had a pass key and
Speaker 3: an upscale apartment to steal more stuff. Can you smell
Speaker 3: when I'm cooking?
Speaker 2: Keep going, man, keep going?
Speaker 3: In addition to that, now.
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, I want to ask you this.
Speaker 5: What is the and this is what I've been dying
Speaker 5: to ask this question, and it's got to be addressed
Speaker 5: to you and Dan and I talked about it. Uh,
Speaker 5: what is the possible play here of taking this the
Speaker 5: next extraordinary step from pillage to just throw deaders under
Speaker 5: the bus, as he said in his UH letter, Like
Speaker 5: you know, reasonable people can disagree on the decision here
Speaker 5: and on the evidence of everything, but to then take
Speaker 5: the next step and throw all these accusations out at deaders,
Speaker 5: and especially like when he's long gone from the prosecutor's office,
Speaker 5: never coming back the Republicans are never getting that seat back.
Speaker 5: I don't think like, what possibly is there is there
Speaker 5: some kind of like what would be the is there
Speaker 5: political play here in in why?
Speaker 2: And even why it's.
Speaker 3: Inexperience assuming she believed that l would on one day. Oh,
Speaker 3: I assume you two gentlemen this question. On one side
Speaker 3: of the fence, I'll call it the right side of
Speaker 3: the fence saying that he did it are Joe Dieters,
Speaker 3: Seth Tiger, Mark Pete Meyer, the Blue Ash Police Department,
Speaker 3: the FBI who did investigations of the walkie talking imprint
Speaker 3: onto her side of her face in addition to the teeth.
Speaker 3: And then you have as many as thirty judges, beginning
Speaker 3: with the trial judge, all the way through the state system,
Speaker 3: all the way through the federal system.
Speaker 4: Every one of them said he did it.
Speaker 3: And this canard that all the evidence has not turned
Speaker 3: on that Mark Petemeyer and Seth Tiger and Joe Deaters
Speaker 3: had the secret pieces of evidence that they didn't turn
Speaker 3: over under the twenty oh three Brady decision is fault
Speaker 3: the courts of appeals have they gave all the evidence
Speaker 3: that was relevant and they had other pieces of paper
Speaker 3: of witnesses that said we saw nothing. Secondly, there was
Speaker 3: one witness who said more or less of the time
Speaker 3: of the killing, I think I saw a white guy
Speaker 3: run out the back of a building.
Speaker 4: Who was it? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Call your witness. Did he Did he have in his
Speaker 3: possession the diamond necklace? Was his hand injured? Find the
Speaker 3: bacteria on Rhodes rhode?
Speaker 4: His gun line?
Speaker 3: No, it was a piece of paper that said someone.
Speaker 3: And they also had a confession of someone in the
Speaker 3: Hamlety County jail, a woman who said, my husband told
Speaker 3: me that he killed that woman in Blue Ash and
Speaker 3: the husband, this is going back twenty five to thirty years,
Speaker 3: is dead and the woman was mentally ill when she
Speaker 3: made the statement. And so on one side of the
Speaker 3: fence you got Mark Pete Meyer, set Tiger Joe Leaders,
Speaker 3: the Blue Ash Police, the FBI, thirty state and federal judges.
Speaker 3: On the other you have Wendy Cross and Connie Pillage.
Speaker 6: Who would you believe?
Speaker 2: I think, I think I know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: And then the notion Bill Cunningham that that that's somehow
Speaker 1: the office of Joe Dieters engaged in some sort of
Speaker 1: h canery, some sort of underhanded operation, some sort of
Speaker 1: cutting corners or not doing things the right way, that
Speaker 1: maybe their work wasn't up to the standard that's acceptable
Speaker 1: to Connie Pillage, that notion is just just it's.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous on its face.
Speaker 1: I spent years before I got into this job as
Speaker 1: a reporter for Fox nineteen covering the daily cumings and
Speaker 1: goings of Joe Deeters in his office and Seth Tiger
Speaker 1: and Mark Pete Meyer. I saw those guys in action
Speaker 1: almost every single day, and there was never a hint
Speaker 1: of any impropriety in that office whatsoe but the way
Speaker 1: and she did it again yesterday when she suggested that
Speaker 1: you know, somehow there was the withholding of evidence or
Speaker 1: maybe you know, their work was a little bit sloppy
Speaker 1: and and you know, we didn't have time to get
Speaker 1: into it. But it's to my way of thinking, it's
Speaker 1: an absolute disgrace that this prosecutor who didn't even check
Speaker 1: in with Joe Dieters, who didn't even say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: mister former prosecutor, this is what I'm looking at, and
Speaker 1: I think we know we're not going to go forward
Speaker 1: with this retrial because of this. This and this to
Speaker 1: not even run that theory by him and and get
Speaker 1: his And she said, why do I want his opinion
Speaker 1: on this? Well, remember this case very well? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me?
Speaker 3: It is a felony called obstruction of justice to convict
Speaker 3: an innocent man, which is a federal civil rights violations.
Speaker 3: If Joe Neaters and Mark Pete Myer and Seth Tiger
Speaker 3: did what Connie says they did, they should be indicted
Speaker 3: in Hamlin County. They should be indicted by federal grand juries.
Speaker 3: They should go to trial and go to prison for
Speaker 3: years for planning evidence and being incompetent and cheating in
Speaker 3: an agger red a murder case. This wasn't a speeding
Speaker 3: violation like that derelict that driving one hundred miles in
Speaker 3: our Montgomery road.
Speaker 4: This was a murder. And they didn't arrest.
Speaker 3: Elwood for one year after the fact because they wanted
Speaker 3: to go over and over and over experts as CSI investigations,
Speaker 3: the FBI, the imprints, the blood, the necklace, what kind
Speaker 3: of pig that they spent a year because this was
Speaker 3: a woman who came here for a Barton mitzvah from
Speaker 3: Toms River, New Jersey, and they felt particular in the
Speaker 3: Blue Ash Police they had like one murder every five
Speaker 3: years and they were up in arms we got to
Speaker 3: find this guy. And they were so careful to make
Speaker 3: sure that the right person, and a multi racial jury
Speaker 3: was out just a short period of times that of.
Speaker 4: Course he's guilty.
Speaker 3: And Number one is the kind of person that would
Speaker 3: do it because of his previous record.
Speaker 4: Of violence and burglary.
Speaker 3: He's got a pass key Dupscale Motels h and he's
Speaker 3: using it. That was a bad hire by the way,
Speaker 3: by MS Sweets. And he was the only person that
Speaker 3: had the products of the theft in his possession. And
Speaker 3: he had the Boxer's virus in his left hand, which
Speaker 3: you only get from the doctors from someone's mouth. It's
Speaker 3: a special little bacteria we.
Speaker 4: All have, and he had that. And they waited and waited.
Speaker 3: For the test results to come back make sure they
Speaker 3: got the right guy. And I think what's behind this
Speaker 3: is there's a sense among many in our community that
Speaker 3: Joe Leaders over prosecuted, prosecuted the wrong people and and uh,
Speaker 3: the guy has to be an integrity unit now, an
Speaker 3: integrity unit to look at Mark Pete Mayer and make
Speaker 3: sure these guys had integrity.
Speaker 2: Past wrong, correct.
Speaker 3: Them and Jason. The next one's going to be Tracy Hunter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Tracy Hunter is going to be a motion for a
Speaker 3: new trial, ran it and then dismissed.
Speaker 4: It's ll be on the bench within two or three years.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's a great point you bring up. What
Speaker 5: is the bigger picture of all this? Is this just
Speaker 5: the beginning of a decision like this? Will there be
Speaker 5: other decisions like this rendered by the prosecutor's office in
Speaker 5: your mind.
Speaker 4: Well, the hope is that she'll stop.
Speaker 3: Now it's only been there, what not quite a year,
Speaker 3: and she's inexperienced. But the hope is, after this firestorm,
Speaker 3: that she'll say, now, wait a minute before I choose
Speaker 3: former prosecutors of committing crimes in office to convict an
Speaker 3: innocent man, to put him on death row for twenty
Speaker 3: eight years, I'm gonna make damn sure. I'm gonna I
Speaker 3: have the facts in the law on my side. And secondly,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to do this again because this is
Speaker 3: tearing people apart, especially wrote to Nathan's family, and we
Speaker 3: got to stop. Do I think it'll stop? I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 4: But gentlemen, last point, I know you got to go.
Speaker 3: There's a huge civil lawsuit out there, millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: And the county prosecutor stood up in front of God
Speaker 3: country and the media and said, prosecutor's office made a mistake.
Speaker 3: This is a wrongful prosecution. She conceded liability and said
Speaker 3: Ellwood was cheated. So at this huge lawsuit coming next year,
Speaker 3: how many county taxpayers are going to pay millions of
Speaker 3: dollars because of Elwood Jones? Because what is it worth
Speaker 3: to be locked up in death throw for twenty eight years? Well,
Speaker 3: what do you so a liability is conceded? According to
Speaker 3: county pillage, we did it and now we have to
Speaker 3: pay you money. How many millions of dollars is it
Speaker 3: worth for you, Jason Williams, to be on death row
Speaker 3: for twenty eight years when the prosecutor's office says you
Speaker 3: were wrongfully convicted?
Speaker 4: How much is that worth?
Speaker 5: Check out that you can't exactly build a lot of zeros.
Speaker 4: That's the next shoot to drop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, we gotta leave it right there. Merry Christmas
Speaker 1: to you and yours all the best to you in
Speaker 1: the new year, and we'll we will be seeing you
Speaker 1: in the new year. But thank you for being here
Speaker 1: on this Wednesday with Willie. It makes it extra special
Speaker 1: for Jason and me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mary Chris, Mary Chris, there.
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Speaker 1: The nine first one forecast, a beautiful afternoon today is
Speaker 1: going to give way to some showers and thunderstorms tonight,
Speaker 1: with the temperature continuing the climb into the mid fifties
Speaker 1: now for Christmas Day, a forty percent chance of showers,
Speaker 1: mainly before one, and we'll have a high on Christmas
Speaker 1: of fifty nine. Rain is likely tomorrow night, the overnight
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Speaker 2: There's a little.
Speaker 1: Christmas music forty Jayson Williams and Carol Jason Williams in
Speaker 1: Freighting the Rock. Liam Tomlinson, you saying, lady, I saw
Speaker 1: Liam out in the hall. He's got his Christmas sweater on.
Speaker 1: He told me he's going to his grandma's house.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, so.
Speaker 1: Good for him, absolutely, And he's and he's got one
Speaker 1: of those look I mean, it's to my way of thinking,
Speaker 1: it's way too hot to wear a Christmas sweater.
Speaker 2: Today it was like sixty to threes. What are you
Speaker 2: you wear shorts? Do you get shorts on? Over there?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I got, I got golf pants on. I came straight
Speaker 1: from the golf course. It looks like it.
Speaker 2: Well that's all right.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see, we've got football action coming up on
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, which is tomorrow. I know we got in
Speaker 1: all those uh Liam, all those games are going to
Speaker 1: be right here on seven hundred WLW Is that right, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Bronx. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got a big lineup of football for you tomorrow. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you suspect to be any sports
Speaker 1: wagering going on?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, a big NFL week It's a big NFL weekend,
Speaker 5: a lot of big games. Is a big necessarily tomorrow's
Speaker 5: games or because the player implications? We absolutely, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's interesting to look at these games how they were
Speaker 5: originally set up. They originally scheduled for Christmas Day because
Speaker 5: they thought all six of these teams would be in
Speaker 5: playoff contentions. You think about that Broncos Chiefs game. Wow,
Speaker 5: well that had been a phenomenal game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Chiefs because he got Mahomes blew out his knee.
Speaker 1: Garner Minshew, their backup quarterback blew out his knee. Who's
Speaker 1: playing quarterback for them? I'm not actually sure. I don't
Speaker 1: even looked that up. I don't know. I'll look it
Speaker 1: up right now. Tony Pike get a phone call from
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. He might have in any case to help
Speaker 1: us understand the lines and the wagering and all the
Speaker 1: other stuff. We turned to Jason Hoffman, who is the
Speaker 1: sports editor at the Cincinnati Inquirer, and Jason Hoffman, Welcome
Speaker 1: to seven hundred WLW and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 8: To you, Hey, Merry Christmas to you too.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the first thing that strikes me when
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these spreads. Is it just because of
Speaker 1: the body of work that these teams have put out
Speaker 1: that Vegas can call Dallas an eight and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite. They can call the Lions a seven and
Speaker 1: a half point favorite over the Vikings, the Broncos thirteen
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite over the Kansas City Chief
Speaker 1: Those numbers seem huge to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So the way that the spreads work, there's guys that
Speaker 8: are way smarter than me and gals that are at
Speaker 8: these sportsbooks in Vegas, And what they do is they
Speaker 8: operate off of what we call in the gambling world
Speaker 8: prime numbers. Right, So the types of numbers that you
Speaker 8: can score in a given game. So the start with
Speaker 8: three points, six point seven points.
Speaker 2: And go off that.
Speaker 8: Now, the goal of these lines is to give you
Speaker 8: an implied win probability, right, So thirteen and a half points.
Speaker 8: That's a big number to cover.
Speaker 6: In the NFL.
Speaker 8: That's more that's usually a college type think. But the
Speaker 8: real reason for the lines is that that book wants
Speaker 8: to get as close to half of the money on
Speaker 8: each side of it, so that they make ten percent
Speaker 8: off of all the bets no matter what. That's why
Speaker 8: you see that minus one ten next to it for
Speaker 8: the odds, because the book's going to make you spend
Speaker 8: one hundred and ten dollars to win one hundred. So
Speaker 8: they go off that, and then there's a whole bunch
Speaker 8: of metrics to go off of. If you ever want
Speaker 8: to get into a super nerd rant about it, I
Speaker 8: can talk about it forever, but basically that the key
Speaker 8: numbers are expected points per play, expected points per drive,
Speaker 8: points allowed per drive points allowed per play from the defense,
Speaker 8: and then they go from there.
Speaker 2: I mean, what could have been in Jay and Merry Christmas?
Speaker 2: To you?
Speaker 5: What could have been in these Christmas Day matchups? But
Speaker 5: as as is, the only teams that are still in,
Speaker 5: well the Denver Broncos are in, and what they have
Speaker 5: to play for right now I believe is they're still
Speaker 5: playing maybe for home field advantage, and then the Lions
Speaker 5: are the only other team that are still in it,
Speaker 5: and they are on the outside looking in. And you
Speaker 5: just look at these games, you're kind of like, well,
Speaker 5: at the start of the season, you would have gotten
Speaker 5: really excited, and now it's like, Eh, let's get to
Speaker 5: the weekend. What are some other big games?
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. And the weird thing is with them
Speaker 8: doing all these games on Christmas Day now, they don't
Speaker 8: have enough time. They need to give the teams two
Speaker 8: weeks notice to flex out of like a primetime game. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: how the Bengals and Dolphins were supposed to be Sunday
Speaker 8: Night Football. Yeah, but the NFL, you got to give
Speaker 8: them a two week notice before you flex them ount
Speaker 8: And they can't obviously change three games because they're going
Speaker 8: to be clumpers. But yeah, at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 8: they're all divisional games. They should have all had playoff implications,
Speaker 8: and that's just not the way that cookie crumbled.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, as you look at as you look
Speaker 5: at these three games, and I don't know if we
Speaker 5: need to go down to the spreads and the picks
Speaker 5: and all that, but is there one of these games
Speaker 5: that has any intrigued to you at all. I know
Speaker 5: that again the Lions, the Lions are weird team this year.
Speaker 5: It is a rivalry game against the Vikings. I guess
Speaker 5: all these are divisional rivalry games. Uh, but uh, you
Speaker 5: know the Lions are. I mean, if it's now or
Speaker 5: never for them, So I guess that's maybe one of
Speaker 5: the story. They can but they're they're they're very much
Speaker 5: on the outside looking in, right. They gotta get a
Speaker 5: lot of help, and they got to keep winning their
Speaker 5: eight and seven, which would put them in a pretty
Speaker 5: decent spot, well not necessarily in the a FC, but
Speaker 5: they're eight and seven. You know, they're they're favored by
Speaker 5: seven and a half. Any they're going to Minnesota, any
Speaker 5: anything there of What are your thoughts on that game?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the Lions are definitely and must win mode. They have,
Speaker 8: as you mentioned, they have to win out the last
Speaker 8: two games and they need a little bit of help
Speaker 8: to get in seven and a half. I don't like
Speaker 8: that number just because of the half point. Yep, a
Speaker 8: hook call it seven and a hook. I don't like
Speaker 8: that number. But if I had to bet this, I
Speaker 8: would go at the Lions just because they're in desperation
Speaker 8: mode and it. You know, they're one of those teams
Speaker 8: that on any given day, they can lay a clunker
Speaker 8: like they have recently, or they can go out and
Speaker 8: score forty eight points.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you, Jason, do you like seeing the NFL names
Speaker 1: on Saturdays around me? And I mean they don't always
Speaker 1: do it around this time of year, but which I'm
Speaker 1: I'm good with it. When college football is over, you
Speaker 1: see these games on Saturdays. I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, Jason will tell you I'm a I'm an NFL CICCU,
Speaker 8: so I'd watch it. If you put the NFL on
Speaker 8: Tuesday every week, I'd watch it because I'm bekind.
Speaker 2: I used to be a college football cicco.
Speaker 5: But I mean, Jay, you and I talking on the
Speaker 5: phone the other day, and I told you this, I'm
Speaker 5: becoming an NFL cicco because I'm really tired of the
Speaker 5: NF or of what college football's going through. Uh speaking
Speaker 5: and Dan mentioned Saturday there speaking of desperate the Ravens
Speaker 5: at Packers. This is an intriguing matchup. Ravens fighting for
Speaker 5: their lives. They got to keep going here. They can't
Speaker 5: hold onto the dagon football. I mean if they could
Speaker 5: hang onto the football, they would you know, I know
Speaker 5: they had Lamar Jackson was hurt for a while, but
Speaker 5: they would be in much better position right now if
Speaker 5: Derreck Henry could hold on the ball and Zay Flowers
Speaker 5: could hold on the ball. But Ravens at Packers, Packers
Speaker 5: coming off that devastating loss at Chicago, Packers favored by
Speaker 5: three three points.
Speaker 2: What do he got there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I like the Packers in this spot for two reasons.
Speaker 8: One the turnover problem that Baltimore has that you mentioned.
Speaker 8: The other thing is the Baltimore defense is not really
Speaker 8: that good this year. They went spent a bunch of
Speaker 8: money in free agency, and yes, they shut the Bengals
Speaker 8: out and the biggest clunker of the Joe Burr er
Speaker 8: on my opinion a couple weeks ago. But I don't
Speaker 8: think that they can they're going to have an answer
Speaker 8: for the run or pass game that Green Bay's offense rings.
Speaker 8: So I'm going to take the Packers minus the points,
Speaker 8: and I'm also going to.
Speaker 2: Go over the point total in that game.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you about this one. You've got
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You've got Pittsburgh at the Cleveland Browns. That's
Speaker 1: only a three point spread, and you've got Pittsburgh who's
Speaker 1: leading the division. It looks like they're probably going to
Speaker 1: win the division. I think they're a clear favorite to
Speaker 1: beat the Browns. How do you have you know, how
Speaker 1: do you have a Dallas Washington Commander's game that has
Speaker 1: an eight and a half point spread and this one's
Speaker 1: only three points.
Speaker 8: It's part historical. The Steelers have not covered against the Browns. Yeah,
Speaker 8: more than half the time in the last decade. For
Speaker 8: some reason. They just play them tight every time. How
Speaker 8: about that They have a winning record against them, obviously,
Speaker 8: But the other reason too is the bookmakers, in my opinion,
Speaker 8: don't trust that Pittsburgh offense right now. It looked good
Speaker 8: a couple of week weeks ago. But with Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 8: you know, right now, it seems you can flip a
Speaker 8: coin and one week he looks like Aaron Rodgers, the
Speaker 8: next week he looks like he's forty two years old.
Speaker 8: So I think that's the two main reasons for that spread.
Speaker 5: Jumping over to Sunday, you've got two games late there,
Speaker 5: late afternoon game and then a night game that four
Speaker 5: to twenty five Eagles bills could be a Super Bowl preview,
Speaker 5: and then at night you got Bears forty nine ers,
Speaker 5: which could be an NFC Championship game preview right now,
Speaker 5: Buffalo favored on ESPN BET at one and a half points.
Speaker 5: The game is in Buffalo, Philadelphia at Buffalo Bills by
Speaker 5: one and a half.
Speaker 2: What you got?
Speaker 8: I like the Bills in this spot. I honestly, when
Speaker 8: I initially looked at this game, I headed it three
Speaker 8: and a half based off of my metrics and my
Speaker 8: spreadsheet that I work off of, So I'll definitely take
Speaker 8: one and a half. I think that the bill don't
Speaker 8: have the flashy wide receiver weapons, but what they have
Speaker 8: in the best running game in the NFL, best running
Speaker 8: back in the NFL with and also with the tight
Speaker 8: ends that they have, I just think it's going to
Speaker 8: be too much for that Eagles defense follow up too.
Speaker 1: All right, we got time for one more game here,
Speaker 1: so let's turn our attention to Arizona coming here to
Speaker 1: take on the Bengals on Sunday. Sunday at one o'clock
Speaker 1: is the kick Bengals looking at about at a seven
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite in this game right now,
Speaker 1: I mean base look, Arizona is not very good. And
Speaker 1: based on what the Bengals did last week and how
Speaker 1: good they looked last week, is it possible for the
Speaker 1: Bengals to put two good games together and cover that
Speaker 1: seven and a half.
Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely, I think it is. I wrote my prediction
Speaker 8: for USA Today this week. The final score that I
Speaker 8: predicted was thirty four to fourteen Bengals. So then winning
Speaker 8: by twenty in a blowout?
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 8: The main reasons there's injuries all over the defense for
Speaker 8: the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray's done for the year as well.
Speaker 8: They're on a third string quarterback similar to the Chiefs are,
Speaker 8: and that entire coaching staff is going to get fired.
Speaker 8: So the only thing that these guys are playing for
Speaker 8: is either new contracts with other teams or maybe pride.
Speaker 2: But that's about it.
Speaker 8: I don't see how they hang close at all to
Speaker 8: the Bengals. I was surprised this wasn't a double digit spread,
Speaker 8: like we see what the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? All right?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Jason Hoffman, Cincinnati Enquirer, we are going to have to
Speaker 1: let you go, and I appreciate the time, appreciate all
Speaker 1: the effort you put into breaking down these spreads. Keep
Speaker 1: up the great work, and Merry Christmas to you and
Speaker 1: yours all.
Speaker 8: Right, hey, thank you, and merry Christmas gents.
Speaker 5: Hey Mary for Christmas. And may may Sanna be very good.
Speaker 5: Little Eli Hoffin you know, sorry, all right, Jason, thank
Speaker 5: you very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Bengals ain't gonna be in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you might as well maybe make a couple of bucks off.
Speaker 5: I like that pic, especially Jacoby Brissett is the Cardinals
Speaker 5: starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: I might stop at the sports book on the way home.
Speaker 1: Really Bengals by twenty I like that On seven hundred
Speaker 1: ww so reliving it. I was in the Air Force, yes,
Speaker 1: and I was stationed in Okaanowa, Japan, and it was Christmas.
Speaker 1: It was Christmas Day and I was working, and uh
Speaker 1: I'm out on the flight line and I was I
Speaker 1: was the I was the float to that night, so
Speaker 1: I had to I wasn't in a fuel truck. I
Speaker 1: was in a I was in a pickup truck. And
Speaker 1: I had to go around and do different things. And
Speaker 1: uh so when I was working, I was working the
Speaker 1: I guess it was the I can't remember it was
Speaker 1: the overnight shift of it. But anyway, it was late,
Speaker 1: it was late, it was it was it was like
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock local time, and this, you know, I had
Speaker 1: Armed Forces Radio used to be called a FRTs on
Speaker 1: Versus radio and television service, and this song came on
Speaker 1: Elvis Presley and it was just it. It just hit
Speaker 1: me about the first first time I ever heard it,
Speaker 1: and I just I'm sitting there and it was I
Speaker 1: it wasn't snowing, but it was. It was late at night,
Speaker 1: there was no one else around, and just just sat
Speaker 1: there and just thought about, man, this is And it
Speaker 1: was at that moment I decided that was my all
Speaker 1: time favorite Christmas song. And after all these years that
Speaker 1: has not changed. Relonging for home, I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but it was just, uh, it just fit the mood perfectly, sure,
Speaker 1: you know, but it's you know, it's Elvis Presley. So
Speaker 1: you know, this is what Jason and I do when
Speaker 1: we're here on Christmas Eve. We want to hear about
Speaker 1: your favorite Christmas songs, and that one. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: other ones that I like, but that version of Merry
Speaker 1: Christmas Baby, because it's been done, it's been done by
Speaker 1: well Charles Brown was the first one who recorded in
Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven. So that was the Bruce talking about
Speaker 1: Charles Brown earlier. Charles Brown has got a lot of
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of great Christmas recordings that that
Speaker 1: I like a lot. Chuck Berry recorded that this song
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight, Merry Christmas Baby, Yes, otis Redding
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven, Otis Redding and the Pips. I
Speaker 1: don't know about the Pips, but it's Otis Redding. And
Speaker 1: then Elvis recorded that in nineteen seventy one, and probably
Speaker 1: most people are familiar with the Bruce Springsteen and the
Speaker 1: East Sand version. That's I don't know what year it was,
Speaker 1: but it's it's His version is a lot more upbeat
Speaker 1: and up tempo.
Speaker 2: Than the Elvis.
Speaker 7: Ver.
Speaker 1: You like Springsteen, you like his polm Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I might have to bring the movie. When I was younger, No,
Speaker 1: I appreciate Bruce Ringsteen. I read a lot about him.
Speaker 1: I've never been to one of his shows, but I
Speaker 1: read a lot about Springsteen when I was when I
Speaker 1: was younger, and so I appreciate the effort and the work.
Speaker 1: I think he taught himself how to play guitar. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure, And I remember reading about him one time.
Speaker 1: He said, if you want to be good at guitar,
Speaker 1: he said, you have to practice a lot by yourself.
Speaker 1: And so he put a lot of time and effort
Speaker 1: into his craft. I think at one time he was
Speaker 1: probably the biggest rock and roll star on the planet
Speaker 1: for a period of time. But you know, over the
Speaker 1: last several years he's injected. And I've I've heard and
Speaker 1: maybe if you if you know people are listening, they've
Speaker 1: been to a Springsteen show. I've heard that he actually
Speaker 1: he like these days, he stops his show in the
Speaker 1: middle to go on a on a political rant or
Speaker 1: for an extended for several minutes, because he hates Trump
Speaker 1: that bad. So he's got I think he's got some
Speaker 1: you know, like Robert de Niro, he's got some some
Speaker 1: serious Trump arrangement syndrome going on.
Speaker 2: And he and it's to.
Speaker 1: Me that would I I have never been to a
Speaker 1: show where a performer actually stops the show to make
Speaker 1: a no, no, tell you, I didn't ask you to
Speaker 1: play that.
Speaker 2: No, I did, Okay, go ahead, go ahead, I didn't,
Speaker 2: but I didn't. I didn't. But I like it.
Speaker 1: If you want to play Bruce Springsteen keep going. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not hating on Bruce Springsteen, keep going, but
Speaker 1: I just yeah, the the political stuff and the big
Speaker 1: man who plays the sacks, Clarence. Yeah, he died, he died,
Speaker 1: but no he I mean it was a great show.
Speaker 1: I mean, great, great artist. But yeah, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know why he let the the political stuff take over.
Speaker 1: And and I think he's known more for that these
Speaker 1: days than you know, why anything new that he's putting
Speaker 1: now you know.
Speaker 2: Why he did. No, I don't know why.
Speaker 5: He doesn't need the money and he's no, he doesn't
Speaker 5: need to believe I mean, what he believes in his
Speaker 5: his convictions on it, and he feels like that's what
Speaker 5: he he needs to evangelize on it.
Speaker 2: That would be my guess.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean songs like thunder Road. I
Speaker 1: mean the lyrics to that song, they're amazing. So what's
Speaker 1: the one about uh uh small town?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was born in a small town. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: that's Mellencamp. Oh that is, I'm thinking about the one.
Speaker 5: It'll come to me in a second. We're sticking, we're
Speaker 5: sticking to Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's go. Let's go to the phones,
Speaker 1: and this is Bobby. Bobby, you're on seven hundred wl
Speaker 1: W than Steven Ross.
Speaker 3: Hey, happy there, Holidays, everybody married Christmas?
Speaker 2: The A team on here today. Oh yeah, absolutely. How
Speaker 2: you doing, Bobby? Hey, we do well every day, my friend.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what Chuck Berry would run run read all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great one. Here we go, you say it.
Speaker 1: We play it on seven hundred w W.
Speaker 2: Make it to town. He can take the freeway down.
Speaker 2: Sort of a different take on Santa Claus's coming to town. Huh.
Speaker 1: There you go, Bobby, Thank you very much for the
Speaker 1: phone call, and you have a great Christmas, you too,
Speaker 1: My brims about it? Run Bob, And Bobby's a regular
Speaker 1: I recognize his voice. He's a regular listener to this
Speaker 1: station and down the hall fifty five.
Speaker 2: Fifty KRC tri State Weather. You could be you could
Speaker 2: be a jingle. So you like that?
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, it was, it was beautiful. I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want to say anything bad. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Steven Ross, Steve, seven hundred WLWY Safety.
Speaker 2: What's up man, I.
Speaker 3: Know, maybe blasphemy, say Chuck Berry didn't do the best
Speaker 3: of anything.
Speaker 8: Keith Richard's version of Run to Rudolph.
Speaker 2: Ruts better Keith Richard. Keith, I didn't know him. We
Speaker 2: have that Keith Richards version of Run Run Rudolph. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he had a version of that. He's
Speaker 1: gonna see, he's gonna see if he can find that one.
Speaker 6: I'm with Dan.
Speaker 3: Best Christmas song ever is Elvis Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: Baby, all this Merry Christmas Baby, and and the thing
Speaker 1: is the best part of the best part of that
Speaker 1: song doesn't come until it's about until you're about five
Speaker 1: or six minutes into him.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go? Does this Keith? This is
Speaker 2: Keith Richards. Alight, let's hear this is Keith Richards singing.
Speaker 2: There you go Richard singing.
Speaker 1: You say it? Lean plays it? Hey, Steve, thank you
Speaker 1: very much for the call.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You have a great Christmas brother. Thanks Steve. Is that
Speaker 2: it Steve? By the way, that was the song?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: He confirmed My bat left my bat. I hung up
Speaker 2: on Richards from the stones. You know what I like?
Speaker 5: The Christmas song by Nat King Cole. That's the one
Speaker 5: that's classic. That's that's a classic chest nuts.
Speaker 1: You know the thing is for for for as old
Speaker 1: as that song is, the quality of the recording on
Speaker 1: that risp it is, it is crisp. It is superior
Speaker 1: to to so to so many other recordings, and and
Speaker 1: and what you know, what was the technology back then
Speaker 1: compared to what it is today?
Speaker 2: Here we go Jack Cross, huge.
Speaker 3: Tad cows being sung by wah.
Speaker 2: And folks dressed up like Eskimo.
Speaker 4: A turkey.
Speaker 1: And so I was driving, I was driving on my
Speaker 1: way here today and I was slipping around. I was
Speaker 1: scanning some of the the FM dial uh not because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to listen to ken Brew, but I
Speaker 1: knew we were going to be talking about Christmas songs
Speaker 1: and I and it maybe it's just me, but it
Speaker 1: seems like a couple of years ago, it seemed like
Speaker 1: there was a dozen or more radio stations that was
Speaker 1: playing full time Christmas music. Today it seems like there's
Speaker 1: only there's not as many. I don't know that, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many there are, but it just seemed
Speaker 1: wasn't there one station that starts at like Halloween. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's Randolph Randolph seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys were just talking about Bruce Springsteen, yes,
Speaker 6: and his rants and I saw him last year in Columbus.
Speaker 2: Okay, am I am? I am? I mistaken about that?
Speaker 6: Pardon am I am?
Speaker 2: I mistaken about that? He doesn't stop his shows.
Speaker 6: No, you're you are? Yes, you are mistaken of all right?
Speaker 6: I am? I am hardcore Trump. I'm hardcore conservative. And
Speaker 6: you know, the way he is doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 6: I don't understand why most of those artists end up
Speaker 6: where they are, but they are.
Speaker 2: But anyhow, Okay, thank you, Nicole.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go to Uh, let's go to Fred and
Speaker 1: not Fred. Let's go to Tom and Love one Tom
Speaker 1: and Love one Tom seven hundred w W we got Alice.
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 2: How are you Tom?
Speaker 9: I'm doing I'm doing great. I'm a I'm a music
Speaker 9: trivia host to the local tavern. And I did some
Speaker 9: research for some rock and roll Christmas songs that I
Speaker 9: found some pretty good ones. Uh, I think Kid Rock
Speaker 9: and Tim McGrath or something like that. But uh, the
Speaker 9: funniest one I found was Christmas with the Devil by
Speaker 9: Spinal Tap.
Speaker 10: It's It's It's hilarious, Chris and uh, Christmas with the
Speaker 10: Devil and but my favorite, my favorite, I'm sorry Yeah,
Speaker 10: that's it in my brain.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And then my favorite is the King's Father Christmas. It's
Speaker 9: kind of an irreverend like they're they're gonna mug Santa
Speaker 9: Claus and take his money or something like that.
Speaker 2: Is that the.
Speaker 6: Money?
Speaker 2: Is that the one?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That one?
Speaker 9: That one anyway? And then Christmas and Hollis from run DMC.
Speaker 2: Did did Liam tell you to say that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I think he did because he had that.
Speaker 4: He had that.
Speaker 2: I was over there in the control center a little while.
Speaker 2: I was very surprised, got it, he said.
Speaker 1: He said, I wasn't hip because I wasn't familiar with
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the reason why you're.
Speaker 1: Not go ahead, go ahead, okay, Tom, thanks, we got
Speaker 1: to run. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Liam.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, roll a little bit of the Christmas in
Speaker 1: Hollis and then let's do trafficing weather together.
Speaker 4: Well,