1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: All right, here we go back on the Big one, 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: seven hundred double Christmas See Eddie and Rocky Show, three 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: hours of live radio coming at you. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Wait like a damn Carol. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Jason Williams in for Eddie and Rocky, and I said live, 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: little live radio, Eddie, little extra PiZZ Hey, It's I'm 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: fired up. It's Christmas Eve. It's great to be here. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: It's also a Wednesday, and on the Eddie and Rocky 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Show on Wednesday, that always means Wednesdays with Willy, Willy 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: and Willie is here now, Bill. 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you, sir, How are you merry Christmas? Son? 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what, Dan and Jays. I'm living 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: on the fat of calf. Getting ready for a little 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: candlelight buffet dinner tonight at Kenwick Country Club, and then 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: we're going to go to Mass and our Lady of 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Victory to acknowledge the real reason for Christmas. Then come 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: back home late tonight and uh go to bed, get 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: up and hopefully I have more family members over. It 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: can't get much better than this. Boys, we're always complaining 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 3: and moan, but this is the greatest country, the greatest time, 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 3: and the greatest men. And women to be around. I've 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 3: ever been congratulations on both of your successes and God 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: bless you, and God bless America. 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: God bless America. Let's Bill. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: I want to recap some of the some of the 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: breaking news that happened yesterday. Right around this time, we 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: were getting the statement from the prosecutor Connie Pillach talking 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: about how the corner of lacksmis Marco had made an 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: air in the way she was looking at the files 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: of the of Elwood Jones and his victim. And we 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: also later on heard from the corner saying that she 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: didn't use the word mistake in her press release, but 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: she had a couple of different things going on there. 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: To my way of thinking, Bill, this issue with the hepatitis, 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to me that the guilt or innocence 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: of Elwood Jones really pivots on this particular issue. And 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't have hepatitis, it seems to me 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: they're the evidence far out weighs beyond a reasonable doubt 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: that he's the one who committed this crime. 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: Well as Jason knows, I'll rephrase the comments of Hillary Clinton, 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: what difference does it make? And the answer is no, difference. 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: And that's according to the defense medical experts, who said 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 3: that there's only a thirty percent chance or less, assuming 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: that Rhoda had hepatitis B, and assuming that Elwood didn't 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: have it and edwarll Elwood punched her a teeth into 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: her stomach, which he did, there's only a thirty percent 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: chance that Rhoda is so called hep B would get 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: into the body of Elwood. So this is seventy percent 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: chance that wouldn't so if anything do. For anyone to 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: say that it excludes him is wrong. And last me, 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: some Marco as you know, came on with me and 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: you're good friend Gary Jeff Walker and said that the odds, 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: shall we say, of a transmission is well less than 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: thirty percent. It's probably in the four to five percent range. 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: So to anyone to hang their hat on the hook 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: that allegedly Rhoda who's dead, had he be her family 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: disputes that and all of a sudden it didn't go 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: to Elwood, that issue is just positive, like DNA is wrong. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: More important than that is the fact that when the 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: couple came up from the buffet breakfast and first looked 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: at their friend, Rotea's body. The first thing the woman 62 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: said to her husband was, look, they took her diamond 63 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: necklace too, And that diamond necklace was worn to her 64 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: permanently because the class in the back was too small 65 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: to work with. And so even when she took a shower, 66 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: which she did that day, she kept it on. And 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: where did the authorities find the diamond brooch necklace in the. 68 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: Toolbox of Eltwood? 69 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Jones and so explain Rhydle me that one batman, how 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: could anyone plant the evidence which nobody would do with 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: you think Joe Dieters and that Blue Ash Police and 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: Mark Pete Meyer would plant evidence to make sure that 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: a guilty man was set free and that an innocent man, 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: Elwood was convicted. 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: But the braceleb sorry, the necklace was out of the 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: possession of the Blue Ash Police before they arrived. It 78 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: was gone, and it was found in the toolbox of Elwood. 79 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: And secondly, that the boxer virus that you only get 80 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: when you punch somebody in the mouth because there's bacteria. 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: The gum line got into the body of Elwood testified 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: to buy a hand specialist. He had it and he 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: never had an explanation. 84 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: Of how he hurt his hand. 85 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: He hurt his hand by smashing it into the skull 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: and teeth of Rhoda. That's how he hurt his hand. 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: He told two or three different stories to co workers. 88 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: His hand was all wrapped up. On top of that, 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: On top of that, Jason, this guy was a burg 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: He beat up woman, He beat up cops. He went 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: to prison twice, and he had a pass key and 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: an upscale apartment to steal more stuff. Can you smell 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: when I'm cooking? 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: Keep going, man, keep going? 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: In addition to that, now. 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, I want to ask you this. 97 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 5: What is the and this is what I've been dying 98 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: to ask this question, and it's got to be addressed 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 5: to you and Dan and I talked about it. Uh, 100 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 5: what is the possible play here of taking this the 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: next extraordinary step from pillage to just throw deaders under 102 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: the bus, as he said in his UH letter, Like 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 5: you know, reasonable people can disagree on the decision here 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: and on the evidence of everything, but to then take 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 5: the next step and throw all these accusations out at deaders, 106 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 5: and especially like when he's long gone from the prosecutor's office, 107 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 5: never coming back the Republicans are never getting that seat back. 108 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 5: I don't think like, what possibly is there is there 109 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: some kind of like what would be the is there 110 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 5: political play here in in why? 111 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: And even why it's. 112 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: Inexperience assuming she believed that l would on one day. Oh, 113 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: I assume you two gentlemen this question. On one side 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: of the fence, I'll call it the right side of 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: the fence saying that he did it are Joe Dieters, 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 3: Seth Tiger, Mark Pete Meyer, the Blue Ash Police Department, 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: the FBI who did investigations of the walkie talking imprint 118 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: onto her side of her face in addition to the teeth. 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: And then you have as many as thirty judges, beginning 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: with the trial judge, all the way through the state system, 121 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: all the way through the federal system. 122 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: Every one of them said he did it. 123 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: And this canard that all the evidence has not turned 124 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: on that Mark Petemeyer and Seth Tiger and Joe Deaters 125 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: had the secret pieces of evidence that they didn't turn 126 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: over under the twenty oh three Brady decision is fault 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: the courts of appeals have they gave all the evidence 128 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: that was relevant and they had other pieces of paper 129 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: of witnesses that said we saw nothing. Secondly, there was 130 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: one witness who said more or less of the time 131 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: of the killing, I think I saw a white guy 132 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: run out the back of a building. 133 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: Who was it? I don't know. 134 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Call your witness. Did he Did he have in his 135 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: possession the diamond necklace? Was his hand injured? Find the 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: bacteria on Rhodes rhode? 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: His gun line? 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: No, it was a piece of paper that said someone. 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: And they also had a confession of someone in the 140 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: Hamlety County jail, a woman who said, my husband told 141 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: me that he killed that woman in Blue Ash and 142 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: the husband, this is going back twenty five to thirty years, 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: is dead and the woman was mentally ill when she 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: made the statement. And so on one side of the 145 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: fence you got Mark Pete Meyer, set Tiger Joe Leaders, 146 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: the Blue Ash Police, the FBI, thirty state and federal judges. 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: On the other you have Wendy Cross and Connie Pillage. 148 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: Who would you believe? 149 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: I think, I think I know where I'm going. 150 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: And then the notion Bill Cunningham that that that's somehow 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the office of Joe Dieters engaged in some sort of 152 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: h canery, some sort of underhanded operation, some sort of 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: cutting corners or not doing things the right way, that 154 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: maybe their work wasn't up to the standard that's acceptable 155 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: to Connie Pillage, that notion is just just it's. 156 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: Ridiculous on its face. 157 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: I spent years before I got into this job as 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: a reporter for Fox nineteen covering the daily cumings and 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: goings of Joe Deeters in his office and Seth Tiger 160 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: and Mark Pete Meyer. I saw those guys in action 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: almost every single day, and there was never a hint 162 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: of any impropriety in that office whatsoe but the way 163 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and she did it again yesterday when she suggested that 164 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, somehow there was the withholding of evidence or 165 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: maybe you know, their work was a little bit sloppy 166 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: and and you know, we didn't have time to get 167 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: into it. But it's to my way of thinking, it's 168 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: an absolute disgrace that this prosecutor who didn't even check 169 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: in with Joe Dieters, who didn't even say, hey, look, 170 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: mister former prosecutor, this is what I'm looking at, and 171 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: I think we know we're not going to go forward 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: with this retrial because of this. This and this to 173 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: not even run that theory by him and and get 174 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: his And she said, why do I want his opinion 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: on this? Well, remember this case very well? Are you 176 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: kidding me? 177 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: It is a felony called obstruction of justice to convict 178 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: an innocent man, which is a federal civil rights violations. 179 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: If Joe Neaters and Mark Pete Myer and Seth Tiger 180 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: did what Connie says they did, they should be indicted 181 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: in Hamlin County. They should be indicted by federal grand juries. 182 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: They should go to trial and go to prison for 183 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: years for planning evidence and being incompetent and cheating in 184 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: an agger red a murder case. This wasn't a speeding 185 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 3: violation like that derelict that driving one hundred miles in 186 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: our Montgomery road. 187 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: This was a murder. And they didn't arrest. 188 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: Elwood for one year after the fact because they wanted 189 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: to go over and over and over experts as CSI investigations, 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: the FBI, the imprints, the blood, the necklace, what kind 191 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: of pig that they spent a year because this was 192 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: a woman who came here for a Barton mitzvah from 193 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: Toms River, New Jersey, and they felt particular in the 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: Blue Ash Police they had like one murder every five 195 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: years and they were up in arms we got to 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: find this guy. And they were so careful to make 197 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: sure that the right person, and a multi racial jury 198 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: was out just a short period of times that of. 199 00:10:59,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: Course he's guilty. 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: And Number one is the kind of person that would 201 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: do it because of his previous record. 202 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,479 Speaker 4: Of violence and burglary. 203 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: He's got a pass key Dupscale Motels h and he's 204 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: using it. That was a bad hire by the way, 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: by MS Sweets. And he was the only person that 206 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: had the products of the theft in his possession. And 207 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: he had the Boxer's virus in his left hand, which 208 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: you only get from the doctors from someone's mouth. It's 209 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: a special little bacteria we. 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: All have, and he had that. And they waited and waited. 211 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: For the test results to come back make sure they 212 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 3: got the right guy. And I think what's behind this 213 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: is there's a sense among many in our community that 214 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: Joe Leaders over prosecuted, prosecuted the wrong people and and uh, 215 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: the guy has to be an integrity unit now, an 216 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: integrity unit to look at Mark Pete Mayer and make 217 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 3: sure these guys had integrity. 218 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: Past wrong, correct. 219 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 3: Them and Jason. The next one's going to be Tracy Hunter. Yeah, 220 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: Tracy Hunter is going to be a motion for a 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: new trial, ran it and then dismissed. 222 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 4: It's ll be on the bench within two or three years. 223 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's a great point you bring up. What 224 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 5: is the bigger picture of all this? Is this just 225 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: the beginning of a decision like this? Will there be 226 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 5: other decisions like this rendered by the prosecutor's office in 227 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: your mind. 228 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: Well, the hope is that she'll stop. 229 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: Now it's only been there, what not quite a year, 230 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: and she's inexperienced. But the hope is, after this firestorm, 231 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: that she'll say, now, wait a minute before I choose 232 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: former prosecutors of committing crimes in office to convict an 233 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: innocent man, to put him on death row for twenty 234 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: eight years, I'm gonna make damn sure. I'm gonna I 235 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: have the facts in the law on my side. And secondly, 236 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do this again because this is 237 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 3: tearing people apart, especially wrote to Nathan's family, and we 238 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: got to stop. Do I think it'll stop? I don't 239 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: think so. 240 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: But gentlemen, last point, I know you got to go. 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: There's a huge civil lawsuit out there, millions of dollars. 242 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: And the county prosecutor stood up in front of God 243 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: country and the media and said, prosecutor's office made a mistake. 244 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: This is a wrongful prosecution. She conceded liability and said 245 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: Ellwood was cheated. So at this huge lawsuit coming next year, 246 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: how many county taxpayers are going to pay millions of 247 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: dollars because of Elwood Jones? Because what is it worth 248 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: to be locked up in death throw for twenty eight years? Well, 249 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: what do you so a liability is conceded? According to 250 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 3: county pillage, we did it and now we have to 251 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: pay you money. How many millions of dollars is it 252 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: worth for you, Jason Williams, to be on death row 253 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: for twenty eight years when the prosecutor's office says you 254 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: were wrongfully convicted? 255 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: How much is that worth? 256 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 5: Check out that you can't exactly build a lot of zeros. 257 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: That's the next shoot to drop. 258 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, we gotta leave it right there. Merry Christmas 259 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: to you and yours all the best to you in 260 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: the new year, and we'll we will be seeing you 261 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: in the new year. But thank you for being here 262 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: on this Wednesday with Willie. It makes it extra special 263 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: for Jason and me. 264 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mary Chris, Mary Chris, there. 265 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: You go build the one and only Bill Cunningham, who 266 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: a little trafficing weather together. 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Expect de lace if 277 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: you plan on going through there on that He's like 278 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 7: On news radio seven hundred WLW. 279 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: The nine first one forecast, a beautiful afternoon today is 280 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: going to give way to some showers and thunderstorms tonight, 281 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: with the temperature continuing the climb into the mid fifties 282 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: now for Christmas Day, a forty percent chance of showers, 283 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: mainly before one, and we'll have a high on Christmas 284 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: of fifty nine. Rain is likely tomorrow night, the overnight 285 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: low forty four. Looking ahead to Friday, rain is likely 286 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: and mostly cloudy on Saturday, with a high of sixty 287 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Right now fifty three at seven hundred WLW. 288 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: There's a little. 289 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Christmas music forty Jayson Williams and Carol Jason Williams in 290 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Freighting the Rock. Liam Tomlinson, you saying, lady, I saw 291 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: Liam out in the hall. He's got his Christmas sweater on. 292 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: He told me he's going to his grandma's house. 293 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't like it, so. 294 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Good for him, absolutely, And he's and he's got one 295 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: of those look I mean, it's to my way of thinking, 296 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: it's way too hot to wear a Christmas sweater. 297 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: Today it was like sixty to threes. What are you 298 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: you wear shorts? Do you get shorts on? Over there? 299 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: No? 300 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: I got, I got golf pants on. I came straight 301 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: from the golf course. It looks like it. 302 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Well that's all right. 303 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Uh, let's see, we've got football action coming up on 304 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, which is tomorrow. I know we got in 305 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: all those uh Liam, all those games are going to 306 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: be right here on seven hundred WLW Is that right, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Bronx. Yes, yeah, 307 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: we've got a big lineup of football for you tomorrow. So, uh, 308 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you suspect to be any sports 309 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: wagering going on? 310 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 311 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, a big NFL week It's a big NFL weekend, 312 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: a lot of big games. Is a big necessarily tomorrow's 313 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: games or because the player implications? We absolutely, I mean, 314 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 5: it's interesting to look at these games how they were 315 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 5: originally set up. They originally scheduled for Christmas Day because 316 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 5: they thought all six of these teams would be in 317 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: playoff contentions. You think about that Broncos Chiefs game. Wow, 318 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: well that had been a phenomenal game. 319 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, Chiefs because he got Mahomes blew out his knee. 320 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: Garner Minshew, their backup quarterback blew out his knee. Who's 321 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: playing quarterback for them? I'm not actually sure. I don't 322 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: even looked that up. I don't know. I'll look it 323 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: up right now. Tony Pike get a phone call from 324 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. He might have in any case to help 325 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: us understand the lines and the wagering and all the 326 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: other stuff. We turned to Jason Hoffman, who is the 327 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: sports editor at the Cincinnati Inquirer, and Jason Hoffman, Welcome 328 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: to seven hundred WLW and Merry Christmas. 329 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 8: To you, Hey, Merry Christmas to you too. 330 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: Hey. 331 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the first thing that strikes me when 332 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at these spreads. Is it just because of 333 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: the body of work that these teams have put out 334 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: that Vegas can call Dallas an eight and a half 335 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: point favorite. They can call the Lions a seven and 336 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: a half point favorite over the Vikings, the Broncos thirteen 337 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite over the Kansas City Chief 338 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: Those numbers seem huge to me. 339 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 340 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 8: So the way that the spreads work, there's guys that 341 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 8: are way smarter than me and gals that are at 342 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 8: these sportsbooks in Vegas, And what they do is they 343 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 8: operate off of what we call in the gambling world 344 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 8: prime numbers. Right, So the types of numbers that you 345 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 8: can score in a given game. So the start with 346 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 8: three points, six point seven points. 347 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: And go off that. 348 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 8: Now, the goal of these lines is to give you 349 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 8: an implied win probability, right, So thirteen and a half points. 350 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 8: That's a big number to cover. 351 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 6: In the NFL. 352 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 8: That's more that's usually a college type think. But the 353 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 8: real reason for the lines is that that book wants 354 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 8: to get as close to half of the money on 355 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 8: each side of it, so that they make ten percent 356 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 8: off of all the bets no matter what. That's why 357 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 8: you see that minus one ten next to it for 358 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 8: the odds, because the book's going to make you spend 359 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 8: one hundred and ten dollars to win one hundred. So 360 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 8: they go off that, and then there's a whole bunch 361 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 8: of metrics to go off of. If you ever want 362 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 8: to get into a super nerd rant about it, I 363 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 8: can talk about it forever, but basically that the key 364 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 8: numbers are expected points per play, expected points per drive, 365 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 8: points allowed per drive points allowed per play from the defense, 366 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 8: and then they go from there. 367 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: I mean, what could have been in Jay and Merry Christmas? 368 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: To you? 369 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: What could have been in these Christmas Day matchups? But 370 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: as as is, the only teams that are still in, 371 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: well the Denver Broncos are in, and what they have 372 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: to play for right now I believe is they're still 373 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 5: playing maybe for home field advantage, and then the Lions 374 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 5: are the only other team that are still in it, 375 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: and they are on the outside looking in. And you 376 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 5: just look at these games, you're kind of like, well, 377 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: at the start of the season, you would have gotten 378 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: really excited, and now it's like, Eh, let's get to 379 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 5: the weekend. What are some other big games? 380 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. And the weird thing is with them 381 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 8: doing all these games on Christmas Day now, they don't 382 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 8: have enough time. They need to give the teams two 383 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 8: weeks notice to flex out of like a primetime game. Yeah, okay, 384 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 8: how the Bengals and Dolphins were supposed to be Sunday 385 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 8: Night Football. Yeah, but the NFL, you got to give 386 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 8: them a two week notice before you flex them ount 387 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 8: And they can't obviously change three games because they're going 388 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 8: to be clumpers. But yeah, at the beginning of the season, 389 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 8: they're all divisional games. They should have all had playoff implications, 390 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 8: and that's just not the way that cookie crumbled. 391 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, as you look at as you look 392 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 5: at these three games, and I don't know if we 393 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: need to go down to the spreads and the picks 394 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 5: and all that, but is there one of these games 395 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 5: that has any intrigued to you at all. I know 396 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 5: that again the Lions, the Lions are weird team this year. 397 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 5: It is a rivalry game against the Vikings. I guess 398 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: all these are divisional rivalry games. Uh, but uh, you 399 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: know the Lions are. I mean, if it's now or 400 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 5: never for them, So I guess that's maybe one of 401 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: the story. They can but they're they're they're very much 402 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: on the outside looking in, right. They gotta get a 403 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 5: lot of help, and they got to keep winning their 404 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 5: eight and seven, which would put them in a pretty 405 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 5: decent spot, well not necessarily in the a FC, but 406 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: they're eight and seven. You know, they're they're favored by 407 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 5: seven and a half. Any they're going to Minnesota, any 408 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: anything there of What are your thoughts on that game? 409 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, the Lions are definitely and must win mode. They have, 410 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 8: as you mentioned, they have to win out the last 411 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 8: two games and they need a little bit of help 412 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 8: to get in seven and a half. I don't like 413 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 8: that number just because of the half point. Yep, a 414 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 8: hook call it seven and a hook. I don't like 415 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 8: that number. But if I had to bet this, I 416 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 8: would go at the Lions just because they're in desperation 417 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 8: mode and it. You know, they're one of those teams 418 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 8: that on any given day, they can lay a clunker 419 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 8: like they have recently, or they can go out and 420 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 8: score forty eight points. 421 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 422 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Do you, Jason, do you like seeing the NFL names 423 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: on Saturdays around me? And I mean they don't always 424 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: do it around this time of year, but which I'm 425 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm good with it. When college football is over, you 426 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: see these games on Saturdays. I think that's pretty cool. 427 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: Oh. 428 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 8: Absolutely, Jason will tell you I'm a I'm an NFL CICCU, 429 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 8: so I'd watch it. If you put the NFL on 430 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 8: Tuesday every week, I'd watch it because I'm bekind. 431 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: I used to be a college football cicco. 432 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: But I mean, Jay, you and I talking on the 433 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: phone the other day, and I told you this, I'm 434 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 5: becoming an NFL cicco because I'm really tired of the 435 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: NF or of what college football's going through. Uh speaking 436 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: and Dan mentioned Saturday there speaking of desperate the Ravens 437 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: at Packers. This is an intriguing matchup. Ravens fighting for 438 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 5: their lives. They got to keep going here. They can't 439 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 5: hold onto the dagon football. I mean if they could 440 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: hang onto the football, they would you know, I know 441 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: they had Lamar Jackson was hurt for a while, but 442 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: they would be in much better position right now if 443 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 5: Derreck Henry could hold on the ball and Zay Flowers 444 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 5: could hold on the ball. But Ravens at Packers, Packers 445 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 5: coming off that devastating loss at Chicago, Packers favored by 446 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 5: three three points. 447 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: What do he got there? 448 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 449 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 8: I like the Packers in this spot for two reasons. 450 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 8: One the turnover problem that Baltimore has that you mentioned. 451 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 8: The other thing is the Baltimore defense is not really 452 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 8: that good this year. They went spent a bunch of 453 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 8: money in free agency, and yes, they shut the Bengals 454 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 8: out and the biggest clunker of the Joe Burr er 455 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 8: on my opinion a couple weeks ago. But I don't 456 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 8: think that they can they're going to have an answer 457 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 8: for the run or pass game that Green Bay's offense rings. 458 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 8: So I'm going to take the Packers minus the points, 459 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 8: and I'm also going to. 460 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Go over the point total in that game. 461 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: So let me ask you about this one. You've got 462 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday. You've got Pittsburgh at the Cleveland Browns. That's 463 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: only a three point spread, and you've got Pittsburgh who's 464 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: leading the division. It looks like they're probably going to 465 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: win the division. I think they're a clear favorite to 466 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: beat the Browns. How do you have you know, how 467 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: do you have a Dallas Washington Commander's game that has 468 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: an eight and a half point spread and this one's 469 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: only three points. 470 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 8: It's part historical. The Steelers have not covered against the Browns. Yeah, 471 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 8: more than half the time in the last decade. For 472 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 8: some reason. They just play them tight every time. How 473 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 8: about that They have a winning record against them, obviously, 474 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 8: But the other reason too is the bookmakers, in my opinion, 475 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 8: don't trust that Pittsburgh offense right now. It looked good 476 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 8: a couple of week weeks ago. But with Aaron Rodgers, 477 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 8: you know, right now, it seems you can flip a 478 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 8: coin and one week he looks like Aaron Rodgers, the 479 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 8: next week he looks like he's forty two years old. 480 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 8: So I think that's the two main reasons for that spread. 481 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 5: Jumping over to Sunday, you've got two games late there, 482 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 5: late afternoon game and then a night game that four 483 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 5: to twenty five Eagles bills could be a Super Bowl preview, 484 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: and then at night you got Bears forty nine ers, 485 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 5: which could be an NFC Championship game preview right now, 486 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: Buffalo favored on ESPN BET at one and a half points. 487 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 5: The game is in Buffalo, Philadelphia at Buffalo Bills by 488 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: one and a half. 489 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: What you got? 490 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 8: I like the Bills in this spot. I honestly, when 491 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 8: I initially looked at this game, I headed it three 492 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 8: and a half based off of my metrics and my 493 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 8: spreadsheet that I work off of, So I'll definitely take 494 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 8: one and a half. I think that the bill don't 495 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 8: have the flashy wide receiver weapons, but what they have 496 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 8: in the best running game in the NFL, best running 497 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 8: back in the NFL with and also with the tight 498 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 8: ends that they have, I just think it's going to 499 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 8: be too much for that Eagles defense follow up too. 500 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: All right, we got time for one more game here, 501 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: so let's turn our attention to Arizona coming here to 502 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: take on the Bengals on Sunday. Sunday at one o'clock 503 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: is the kick Bengals looking at about at a seven 504 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite in this game right now, 505 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean base look, Arizona is not very good. And 506 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: based on what the Bengals did last week and how 507 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: good they looked last week, is it possible for the 508 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: Bengals to put two good games together and cover that 509 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: seven and a half. 510 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely, I think it is. I wrote my prediction 511 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 8: for USA Today this week. The final score that I 512 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 8: predicted was thirty four to fourteen Bengals. So then winning 513 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 8: by twenty in a blowout? 514 00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: How about that? 515 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 8: The main reasons there's injuries all over the defense for 516 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 8: the Arizona Cardinals. Kyler Murray's done for the year as well. 517 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 8: They're on a third string quarterback similar to the Chiefs are, 518 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 8: and that entire coaching staff is going to get fired. 519 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 8: So the only thing that these guys are playing for 520 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 8: is either new contracts with other teams or maybe pride. 521 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: But that's about it. 522 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 8: I don't see how they hang close at all to 523 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 8: the Bengals. I was surprised this wasn't a double digit spread, 524 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 8: like we see what the Broncos. 525 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? All right? 526 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: Well? 527 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Jason Hoffman, Cincinnati Enquirer, we are going to have to 528 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: let you go, and I appreciate the time, appreciate all 529 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: the effort you put into breaking down these spreads. Keep 530 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: up the great work, and Merry Christmas to you and 531 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: yours all. 532 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 8: Right, hey, thank you, and merry Christmas gents. 533 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 5: Hey Mary for Christmas. And may may Sanna be very good. 534 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 5: Little Eli Hoffin you know, sorry, all right, Jason, thank 535 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 5: you very much. 536 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Bengals ain't gonna be in the playoffs, 537 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: you might as well maybe make a couple of bucks off. 538 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 5: I like that pic, especially Jacoby Brissett is the Cardinals 539 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 5: starting quarterback. 540 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: I might stop at the sports book on the way home. 541 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: Really Bengals by twenty I like that On seven hundred 542 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: ww so reliving it. I was in the Air Force, yes, 543 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: and I was stationed in Okaanowa, Japan, and it was Christmas. 544 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: It was Christmas Day and I was working, and uh 545 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: I'm out on the flight line and I was I 546 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: was the I was the float to that night, so 547 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: I had to I wasn't in a fuel truck. I 548 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: was in a I was in a pickup truck. And 549 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: I had to go around and do different things. And 550 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: uh so when I was working, I was working the 551 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: I guess it was the I can't remember it was 552 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: the overnight shift of it. But anyway, it was late, 553 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: it was late, it was it was it was like 554 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock local time, and this, you know, I had 555 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: Armed Forces Radio used to be called a FRTs on 556 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Versus radio and television service, and this song came on 557 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Elvis Presley and it was just it. It just hit 558 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: me about the first first time I ever heard it, 559 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: and I just I'm sitting there and it was I 560 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't snowing, but it was. It was late at night, 561 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: there was no one else around, and just just sat 562 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: there and just thought about, man, this is And it 563 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: was at that moment I decided that was my all 564 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: time favorite Christmas song. And after all these years that 565 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: has not changed. Relonging for home, I don't know about that, 566 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: but it was just, uh, it just fit the mood perfectly, sure, 567 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, but it's you know, it's Elvis Presley. So 568 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, this is what Jason and I do when 569 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: we're here on Christmas Eve. We want to hear about 570 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: your favorite Christmas songs, and that one. I mean, there's 571 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: other ones that I like, but that version of Merry 572 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Christmas Baby, because it's been done, it's been done by 573 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: well Charles Brown was the first one who recorded in 574 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven. So that was the Bruce talking about 575 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: Charles Brown earlier. Charles Brown has got a lot of 576 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of great Christmas recordings that that 577 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I like a lot. Chuck Berry recorded that this song 578 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight, Merry Christmas Baby, Yes, otis Redding 579 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven, Otis Redding and the Pips. I 580 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: don't know about the Pips, but it's Otis Redding. And 581 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: then Elvis recorded that in nineteen seventy one, and probably 582 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: most people are familiar with the Bruce Springsteen and the 583 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: East Sand version. That's I don't know what year it was, 584 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: but it's it's His version is a lot more upbeat 585 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: and up tempo. 586 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Than the Elvis. 587 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 7: Ver. 588 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: You like Springsteen, you like his polm Man, you know, 589 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: I might have to bring the movie. When I was younger, No, 590 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate Bruce Ringsteen. I read a lot about him. 591 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I've never been to one of his shows, but I 592 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: read a lot about Springsteen when I was when I 593 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: was younger, and so I appreciate the effort and the work. 594 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: I think he taught himself how to play guitar. I'm 595 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: pretty sure, And I remember reading about him one time. 596 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: He said, if you want to be good at guitar, 597 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: he said, you have to practice a lot by yourself. 598 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: And so he put a lot of time and effort 599 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: into his craft. I think at one time he was 600 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: probably the biggest rock and roll star on the planet 601 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: for a period of time. But you know, over the 602 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: last several years he's injected. And I've I've heard and 603 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: maybe if you if you know people are listening, they've 604 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: been to a Springsteen show. I've heard that he actually 605 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: he like these days, he stops his show in the 606 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: middle to go on a on a political rant or 607 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: for an extended for several minutes, because he hates Trump 608 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: that bad. So he's got I think he's got some 609 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, like Robert de Niro, he's got some some 610 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: serious Trump arrangement syndrome going on. 611 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: And he and it's to. 612 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Me that would I I have never been to a 613 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: show where a performer actually stops the show to make 614 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: a no, no, tell you, I didn't ask you to 615 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: play that. 616 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: No, I did, Okay, go ahead, go ahead, I didn't, 617 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: but I didn't. I didn't. But I like it. 618 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: If you want to play Bruce Springsteen keep going. I'm 619 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: not I'm not hating on Bruce Springsteen, keep going, but 620 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: I just yeah, the the political stuff and the big 621 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: man who plays the sacks, Clarence. Yeah, he died, he died, 622 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: but no he I mean it was a great show. 623 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, great, great artist. But yeah, I don't I 624 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know why he let the the political stuff take over. 625 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: And and I think he's known more for that these 626 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: days than you know, why anything new that he's putting 627 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: now you know. 628 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: Why he did. No, I don't know why. 629 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 5: He doesn't need the money and he's no, he doesn't 630 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 5: need to believe I mean, what he believes in his 631 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 5: his convictions on it, and he feels like that's what 632 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: he he needs to evangelize on it. 633 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: That would be my guess. 634 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean songs like thunder Road. I 635 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: mean the lyrics to that song, they're amazing. So what's 636 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: the one about uh uh small town? 637 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: Right? 638 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was born in a small town. Yeah, that's 639 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 5: that's Mellencamp. Oh that is, I'm thinking about the one. 640 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: It'll come to me in a second. We're sticking, we're 641 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 5: sticking to Christmas. 642 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 643 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's go. Let's go to the phones, 644 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: and this is Bobby. Bobby, you're on seven hundred wl 645 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: W than Steven Ross. 646 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: Hey, happy there, Holidays, everybody married Christmas? 647 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 2: The A team on here today. Oh yeah, absolutely. How 648 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: you doing, Bobby? Hey, we do well every day, my friend. 649 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 9: I'll tell you what Chuck Berry would run run read all. 650 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great one. Here we go, you say it. 651 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: We play it on seven hundred w W. 652 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: Make it to town. He can take the freeway down. 653 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: Sort of a different take on Santa Claus's coming to town. Huh. 654 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: There you go, Bobby, Thank you very much for the 655 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: phone call, and you have a great Christmas, you too, 656 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: My brims about it? Run Bob, And Bobby's a regular 657 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: I recognize his voice. He's a regular listener to this 658 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: station and down the hall fifty five. 659 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: Fifty KRC tri State Weather. You could be you could 660 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: be a jingle. So you like that? 661 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: Uh? Well, it was, it was beautiful. I don't want 662 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: to I don't want to say anything bad. Let's go 663 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: to Steven Ross, Steve, seven hundred WLWY Safety. 664 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: What's up man, I. 665 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 3: Know, maybe blasphemy, say Chuck Berry didn't do the best 666 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: of anything. 667 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 8: Keith Richard's version of Run to Rudolph. 668 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: Ruts better Keith Richard. Keith, I didn't know him. We 669 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: have that Keith Richards version of Run Run Rudolph. I didn't. 670 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know he had a version of that. He's 671 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: gonna see, he's gonna see if he can find that one. 672 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 6: I'm with Dan. 673 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 3: Best Christmas song ever is Elvis Merry Christmas. 674 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Baby, all this Merry Christmas Baby, and and the thing 675 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: is the best part of the best part of that 676 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: song doesn't come until it's about until you're about five 677 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: or six minutes into him. 678 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 2: All right, here we go? Does this Keith? This is 679 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: Keith Richards. Alight, let's hear this is Keith Richards singing. 680 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: There you go Richard singing. 681 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: You say it? Lean plays it? Hey, Steve, thank you 682 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: very much for the call. 683 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: Man. 684 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: You have a great Christmas brother. Thanks Steve. Is that 685 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: it Steve? By the way, that was the song? 686 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: Right? 687 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: He confirmed My bat left my bat. I hung up 688 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: on Richards from the stones. You know what I like? 689 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 5: The Christmas song by Nat King Cole. That's the one 690 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 5: that's classic. That's that's a classic chest nuts. 691 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: You know the thing is for for for as old 692 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: as that song is, the quality of the recording on 693 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: that risp it is, it is crisp. It is superior 694 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: to to so to so many other recordings, and and 695 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: and what you know, what was the technology back then 696 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: compared to what it is today? 697 00:36:49,360 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 2: Here we go Jack Cross, huge. 698 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 3: Tad cows being sung by wah. 699 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: And folks dressed up like Eskimo. 700 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: A turkey. 701 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: And so I was driving, I was driving on my 702 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: way here today and I was slipping around. I was 703 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: scanning some of the the FM dial uh not because 704 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to listen to ken Brew, but I 705 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: knew we were going to be talking about Christmas songs 706 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: and I and it maybe it's just me, but it 707 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: seems like a couple of years ago, it seemed like 708 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: there was a dozen or more radio stations that was 709 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: playing full time Christmas music. Today it seems like there's 710 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: only there's not as many. I don't know that, I 711 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: don't know how many there are, but it just seemed 712 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: wasn't there one station that starts at like Halloween. Yeah, 713 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: here's Randolph Randolph seven hundred WLW. 714 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys were just talking about Bruce Springsteen, yes, 715 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 6: and his rants and I saw him last year in Columbus. 716 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: Okay, am I am? I am? I mistaken about that? 717 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 6: Pardon am I am? 718 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: I mistaken about that? He doesn't stop his shows. 719 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 6: No, you're you are? Yes, you are mistaken of all right? 720 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 6: I am? I am hardcore Trump. I'm hardcore conservative. And 721 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 6: you know, the way he is doesn't make sense to me. 722 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 6: I don't understand why most of those artists end up 723 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 6: where they are, but they are. 724 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: But anyhow, Okay, thank you, Nicole. 725 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: Let's let's go to Uh, let's go to Fred and 726 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: not Fred. Let's go to Tom and Love one Tom 727 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: and Love one Tom seven hundred w W we got Alice. 728 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 9: What's going on? 729 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: How are you Tom? 730 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 9: I'm doing I'm doing great. I'm a I'm a music 731 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 9: trivia host to the local tavern. And I did some 732 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 9: research for some rock and roll Christmas songs that I 733 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 9: found some pretty good ones. Uh, I think Kid Rock 734 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 9: and Tim McGrath or something like that. But uh, the 735 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 9: funniest one I found was Christmas with the Devil by 736 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 9: Spinal Tap. 737 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 10: It's It's It's hilarious, Chris and uh, Christmas with the 738 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 10: Devil and but my favorite, my favorite, I'm sorry Yeah, 739 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 10: that's it in my brain. 740 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 741 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 9: And then my favorite is the King's Father Christmas. It's 742 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 9: kind of an irreverend like they're they're gonna mug Santa 743 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 9: Claus and take his money or something like that. 744 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: Is that the. 745 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 6: Money? 746 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: Is that the one? 747 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 10: Yeah? 748 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: That one? 749 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 9: That one anyway? And then Christmas and Hollis from run DMC. 750 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 2: Did did Liam tell you to say that? 751 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 4: No? 752 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 2: I think he did because he had that. 753 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: He had that. 754 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 2: I was over there in the control center a little while. 755 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: I was very surprised, got it, he said. 756 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: He said, I wasn't hip because I wasn't familiar with 757 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: that one. 758 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the reason why you're. 759 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: Not go ahead, go ahead, okay, Tom, thanks, we got 760 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: to run. Thank you very much. 761 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: Liam. 762 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: Go ahead, roll a little bit of the Christmas in 763 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: Hollis and then let's do trafficing weather together. 764 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: Well,