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Speaker 2: you see wins. Last night, the Bearcats take care of

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Speaker 2: Baylor in relatively comfortable fashion. Cincinnati did not score from

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Speaker 2: and they still win by ten. Baylor is not very good.

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Speaker 2: That's no knock on how the Bearcats played last night.

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Speaker 2: Boba Miller, if it is if it is possible to

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Speaker 2: Seaton Hall shot fifty six percent in the second half.

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Speaker 2: losing his mind in the skyline Chili Crosstown shootout, and

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Speaker 2: you know, as good as they've been defensively, there have

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Speaker 2: been times where they get stops and then they still

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Speaker 2: get scored on because of the other team's offensive rebounding,

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Speaker 2: like against Arizona, which just murdered them into paint. But

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Speaker 2: pretty good defensive team. Issue all season one has been offense.

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Speaker 2: Last night they held a big twelve team to fifty

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Speaker 2: seven points. Baylor is not very good. Tony talked about this,

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Speaker 2: It kind of felt like the quintessential Dan Skillings game,

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Speaker 2: where there's a handful of moments of brilliance, but like

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Speaker 2: there's times where it's like he's a little out of

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Speaker 2: if that's your thing, that's your thing. I kind of

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Speaker 2: view that as he made a business decision, and legitimate

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Speaker 2: business decisions I don't take personally, So didn't bother me

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Speaker 2: that Dan decided to leave. I think Wes has handled

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Speaker 2: questions about players who have left very diplomatically. There was

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Speaker 2: a long embrace between he and Dan after the game.

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Speaker 2: That is not a very good Baylor team, but still

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Speaker 2: win on a night where you don't score over the

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Speaker 2: final seven minutes and yet the game has never really

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Speaker 2: ended out because of the work they did do on

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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the floor. Nineteen away from four o'clock,

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Speaker 2: we'll spend a few minutes with Chad on that maybe

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Speaker 2: do some football with him as well.

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Speaker 2: Traffic hurteing away from U four o'clock. This is ESPN.

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Speaker 2: I say, what's that, hut? You couldn't say say that

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Speaker 6: Was streaming live.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I said we're gonna, We're gonna, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna stream live the last two hours today. Yes, well

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Speaker 2: that's why I said that. Now you know, if if,

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Speaker 2: if they win the rest of their games, ten more

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Speaker 2: regular season games run through the Big Twelve Tournament, then

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Speaker 2: win all six in the NCAA Tournament, they will be

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Speaker 2: given the National Championship Trophy. I can't even say that.

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Speaker 2: I can't even say that without like slurring the words.

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Speaker 2: Chad Rendel's here Bearcat journal dot com on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Chad Rendel.

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Speaker 10: Hid Chad, there's this thing in your subconscious that does

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Speaker 10: that to you when you're trying to lie to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Uh yes, yes, here's what's not a lie. And here's

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Speaker 2: here's why. Here's why I'm frustrated. Here's why I'm frustra

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Speaker 2: There's lots of reasons to be frustrated with the season,

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Speaker 2: but this, this is at the rooted for the root

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Speaker 2: of it for me. This team's good defensively, yes.

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Speaker 10: At times, Okay, I think I think the thing that's

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Speaker 10: been interesting for me this year is it's much different

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Speaker 10: than we've seen UCB defensively over the past thirty five years.

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Speaker 10: Like it is a lot more. They have been great

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Speaker 10: defensively over the years because their team defense, the communication,

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Speaker 10: the assignment, the scouting report, whatever has been awesome under

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Speaker 10: Mick under Hugs at times. You know, most of West

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Speaker 10: is run. The defenses have been really good this year.

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Speaker 10: It feels like there's more elite individual talent defensively, but

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Speaker 10: not as much of that cohesion. So that's why you

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Speaker 10: see the breakdowns against Arizona State, you know, the second

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Speaker 10: half against Arizona. It doesn't feel like they're is connected

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Speaker 10: at times, but there's more individual like Bob OB's been

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Speaker 10: outstanding defensively. Buck Harris is really good defense. Day Day's

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Speaker 10: really good defensively. Like They've got really good individual defenders.

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Speaker 10: It feels like, and maybe this is just a nature

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Speaker 10: of college basketball in twenty twenty six. These guys haven't

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Speaker 10: played together for a long time, so some of that

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Speaker 10: communication and the natural like understanding of where your teammate

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Speaker 10: is going to be has dipped a little. But the

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Speaker 10: individual talent defensively has been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Do they have a prayer on Saturday in Houston?

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Speaker 10: No, they had their chants against s Houston and they

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Speaker 10: missed it. That's generally how this goes, right, Like, when

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Speaker 10: you play one of these elite teams, and especially when

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Speaker 10: you play them twice, they're not gonna let you get

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Speaker 10: a second bite of the apple. Cincinnati was up ten

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Speaker 10: down the stretch against Houston and they didn't get across

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Speaker 10: the finish line, especially going down there. I don't have

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Speaker 10: a lot of faith in them, you know, making this

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Speaker 10: a great game down to the wire type situation, because

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Speaker 10: the same thing I mean, I just don't think they're

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Speaker 10: good enough offensively against Houston to sustain that for a

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Speaker 10: second time and play like they did back at the

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Speaker 10: beginning of January. I mean, you know, stranger things have happened,

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Speaker 10: but that one. Usually you get one shot when you're

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Speaker 10: in a position like Cincinnati in the fifties, sixties, in

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Speaker 10: the metrics, you get that one shot to take that

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Speaker 10: team down the second time around. Usually reality sets back in.

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Speaker 2: I feared that was the answer, but I agree when

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Speaker 2: you have played twenty one games and like now, you

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Speaker 2: know attrition continues to be an issue. Seanabayev. That didn't

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Speaker 2: look like an injury that's gonna have him miss just

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Speaker 2: a game or two. Just watching him on the bench

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Speaker 2: in a boot and needing crutches, and so I'll assume

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Speaker 2: that at least in the short term, the fix isn't

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Speaker 2: going to come with you know, him going through an

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Speaker 2: offensive a period of growth offensively that they can benefit

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Speaker 2: from you've played twenty one games, your offensive issues have

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Speaker 2: been well established. You want to go on a run

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Speaker 2: here post Houston because they play some teams that are beatable,

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Speaker 2: including one they had on the ropes in UCF who

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Speaker 2: comes here next weekend. For them to go on a run,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have to achieve a level of offensive

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Speaker 2: efficiency that they haven't yet all season long, in the

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Speaker 2: absence of some dude coming in that maybe played for

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls last year or something. How does that happen?

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Speaker 10: The problem is what we've talked about for a long

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Speaker 10: time with these guards.

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Speaker 8: Ma.

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Speaker 10: You know, there are times Gisel James and Dade Thomas

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Speaker 10: you feel like, hey, we've been a lot of Big

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Speaker 10: twelve games with these two. But ultimately they're inefficient and players.

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Speaker 10: They don't get to the rim, they don't take a

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Speaker 10: lot of layups, they don't take a lot of shots

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Speaker 10: at the rim, they don't get to the free throw line,

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Speaker 10: and they shoot a lot of long mid range jumpers,

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Speaker 10: long twos and like. The analytics have become popular for

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Speaker 10: a reason. That reason is because they're usually statistically correct.

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Speaker 10: That's how analytics work. When you're not getting to the line,

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Speaker 10: when you're not taking a bigger number of shots at

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Speaker 10: the rim, and instead you're replacing them with seventeen to

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Speaker 10: twenty foot two point attempts. Like the odds are eventually

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Speaker 10: going to catch up to you. And it feels like

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Speaker 10: that's why over the last three years we have not

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Speaker 10: seen this team be able to string together a four

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Speaker 10: to five game run right where they go four and

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Speaker 10: one or you know, five to zero and really gain

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Speaker 10: some momentum in the Big twelve. It's a lot of

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Speaker 10: play well for two or three games and then dip

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Speaker 10: for two or three game, then play well for two

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Speaker 10: or three games, and then did for three or four games.

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Speaker 10: And a lot of that is because offensively they're just

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Speaker 10: not efficient. The brand of offense is not up to par,

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Speaker 10: up to snuff in the modern era. They do a

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Speaker 10: lot of things that you know, the smart basketball minds

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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty six are no longer doing and that's

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Speaker 10: not changing this year, and that's going to make it

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Speaker 10: hard to get on any sort of extended run to

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Speaker 10: make it feel like there is a chance for this

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Speaker 10: team to turn a corner.

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Speaker 2: Got time for a football question, Sure, how well have

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Speaker 2: they done in the portal?

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Speaker 10: I think they've done pretty well. I mean, obviously a

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Speaker 10: lot of that is going to come down to did

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Speaker 10: they hit on quarterback? But in terms of you know,

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Speaker 10: I thought that the number one thing outside of replacing

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Speaker 10: Brendan Soresby was giving the defense more life, more size,

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Speaker 10: more speed, more length for whoever the new defensive coordinator

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Speaker 10: was to work with. And I think they did a

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Speaker 10: lot of that. I think they got three safeties that

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Speaker 10: I really liked. They got a couple of corners that

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Speaker 10: look promising. I'm still a little concerned on the defensive line.

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Speaker 10: If I had a major concern for this team, it

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Speaker 10: would be can they turn the corner on the defensive front,

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Speaker 10: because that there was the worst defensive line in the

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Speaker 10: Big twelve analytically last year. They got to get up,

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Speaker 10: you know, middle of the Pact and higher to really

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Speaker 10: give this defense a chance to be decent. But overall,

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Speaker 10: I think I like what they did at wide receiver.

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Speaker 10: You know, I think the defense at least has a

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Speaker 10: chance to be better because of the pieces that they've added.

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Speaker 10: So I'm positive about it. But another part of that

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Speaker 10: is I also give Jack that Zach grant the benefit

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Speaker 10: of the doubt. More often than not, because I think

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Speaker 10: he's really good at figuring out what the plan is,

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Speaker 10: what the coaching stats asking for, and then being able

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Speaker 10: to go out and find it. So I think there's

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Speaker 10: a chance they can be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: J C. French going to be the starting quarterback?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that you know, that's how this goes well. The

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Speaker 10: guy that you bring in like the first quarterback that

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Speaker 10: steps on campus. Now, was there another quarterback they wanted

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Speaker 10: that ended up somewhere else, Yes, but J C. French

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Speaker 10: was the pivot from that got him on campus, got

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Speaker 10: him committed before he left. That's your starting quarterback. So

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Speaker 10: will there be competition if he's bad? Yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 10: there will be. But I think all expectations Thanks spring balls,

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Speaker 10: like five weeks away, four and a half, five weeks away,

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Speaker 10: I think all expectations are the j C. French. We'll

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Speaker 10: step into that QB one role when camp begins.

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Speaker 2: Awesome as always, man, thanks so much. Thanks, Noe's that's

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Speaker 2: our guy. Chad Brendel Bearhead Journal dot com. Follow him

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at Chad brendel Well. Ask a question about

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655
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Speaker 2: So the Bill Belichick thing, I think has been the

656
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: biggest story in sports this week. Here's how I feel

657
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: about the Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty six

658
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: in pro football. If Ken Anderson gets in, that's really

659
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: all that matters. If Ken Anderson gets in, that doesn't

660
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: validate his career. As far as I'm concerned, and I

661
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: think that's the proper opinion. I think that's the proper approach.

662
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: If Ken Anderson gets in, that's going to be awesome

663
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: for him and his family. That's why Hall of Fame

664
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Speaker 2: inductions are meaningful. Dave Parker made the Hall of Fame.

665
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: I believe, like many that Dave Parker's Hall of Fame

666
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: resume was unfairly overlooked when he was on the writer's ballot.

667
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: But when Harold Baines got in. Nothing against Harold bains

668
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: who was an awesome hitter. Dave Parker, in my opinion,

669
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: was better than Harold Baines. Dave Parker's also selfishly a dude.

670
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: I grew up thinking like that's one of my favorite players.

671
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: Later in life, having Dave Parker on the show, getting

672
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: a chance to know him a little bit, like awesome guy.

673
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: It was so awesome to find out that he was

674
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: going to get to Cooperstown because he was still alive.

675
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: To find out that he's going to be a Hall

676
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: of Famer. Unfortunately, and this was so sad. Although his

677
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 2: son gave an awesome speech on induction Sunday last year,

678
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: he wasn't there for it, Dave, because he passed away

679
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: a few weeks prior Parkinson's disease took him, but he

680
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: at least went to his grave knowing he was a

681
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, and that made me happy. That, to me,

682
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: is what Hall of fame inductions are really all about.

683
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: Being thrilled for the person if you have an attachment

684
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: to him, Being thrilled for the person and their family

685
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: who get inducted. Beyond that, we need to stop making

686
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: halls of fame out to be more important than they are.

687
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: They're museums. They're nice museums. But there are museums in

688
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: small hamlets in upstate New York, Ringfield, Massachusetts, Canton, Ohio.

689
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 2: There are obviously other halls of fame. The College Football

690
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame is a cool museum in Atlanta. But

691
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: they're museums. They're museums just like most other museums. There's

692
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: a gift shop, and sometimes there's a snack bar or

693
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: a food court, not all of them. They're museums. Yet

694
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: the way we talk about these museums, you would think

695
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: they are these mythical places where if a player gets inducted,

696
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: they're given eternal life. We talk about halls of fame.

697
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: Like their churches. We talk about halls of fame like

698
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: their sacred They're buildings and in the building there's a

699
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: hall of plaques or busts, and they're nice esthetically, they're

700
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: beautiful rooms, but that's all they are. Most people never

701
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: visit them. Most football fans will never even think about

702
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: going to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Most fans,

703
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: including a lot of hardcore baseball fans, are never gonna go. Yeah,

704
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: let's drive to the middle of nowhere in New York

705
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame. But we

706
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: make these places out to be bigger and more important

707
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: than they are. The beautiful thing about sports is we

708
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: have scoreboards. I've said this for years about the SP's.

709
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't think I've watched the sb since I was

710
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: in high school or maybe college, not that I'm not

711
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: a huge sports fan, but like, we already have championships

712
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: and awards and we keep score. I don't need an

713
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: award show to hand out the award for best team.

714
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: We do that per sport. And then it's really sort

715
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: of stupid to compare a baseball team to a football team,

716
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: to a hockey team to a women's basketball team, like

717
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. We already we already crown

718
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: champions in sports. We don't need an award show Bill

719
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Belichick won eight Super Bowls as a coach, six as

720
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: a head coach. That is inarguable and it cannot be

721
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: taken away. You can contextualize it if you like and say, wow,

722
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: he was breaking out the cameras and the Spygate, like

723
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: my guy was already going to be a Hall of

724
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: Famer before Spygate became a thing. But he won those championships.

725
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: You don't need for him to have a bronze bust

726
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: in a museum in Canton to validate what he did.

727
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: We know he is the most accomplished football coach of

728
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: all time. We know that no one won more championships.

729
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: We know that in this century, no football coach has

730
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: mattered more, at least at the professional level. Do you

731
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: need for him to have a bronze bust in a

732
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 2: museum that you go and check out before you swing

733
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: by the gift shop to buy a hat and order

734
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: for an order for that to be solidified. No, we

735
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: do this with baseball more than the other sports. We

736
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: talk about the Baseball Hall of Fame, which I have visited.

737
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: My dad and I went Memorial Day weekend of two

738
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: thousand and three, like the quintessential Dad's son trip, and

739
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: we drove forever to go hang out in Cooperstown, stayed

740
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: at some dumpy hotel ate a couple of bad meals,

741
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: went to the Hall of Fame, walked around for four

742
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: or five hours, looked at each other and said, I

743
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: don't know, you want to drive back and like stop

744
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: off in Buffalo or something as neat.

745
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 10: It was cool.

746
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm glad I went. Cherished the time with my Dad's

747
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: a museum, nice museum, some cool stuff in it. It's

748
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: a museum, but we talk about it like it is

749
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: this mythical place that almost doesn't even exist. We make

750
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 2: it out to be this just sacred place where if

751
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: you are inducted, you are super human, you get automatic

752
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: entry to Heaven, you go past the pearly gates because

753
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: you're a Hall of Famer. Ever listen to some of

754
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: these crabby baseball writers talk about their Hall of Fame ballots. No,

755
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: not every baseball writer is crabby, but like the one

756
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: thing that can take like these some of these crotchety

757
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: baseball writers and turn them into a puddle of tears

758
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: is when that ballot is put in front of them

759
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: and nullo Pine about the heavy weight and the responsibility

760
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: of having to look at these men and check that

761
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: box or not check that box, and determine whether they're

762
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: cooper'stown worthy. It's like you're not looking at the guy's

763
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: death warrant man. You're determining whether or not he's gonna

764
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: get an engraved plaque with a likeness of him that

765
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: really doesn't resemble the guy, and it's gonna be stuck

766
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: in a museum in the middle of nowhere that most

767
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: people aren't going to visit. We need to stop making

768
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: these halls of fame out to be bigger and more

769
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: important than they are. That doesn't mean you shouldn't go visit.

770
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: If your thing is to drive to Springfield, Massachusetts and

771
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: check out the Basketball Hall of Fame, go for it.

772
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: Into the Basketball Hall of Fame. It's neat fine. I

773
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: I didn't need the Basketball Hall of Fame to validate

774
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: how good Bernard King was when I was growing up

775
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: watching them. You just so there, to me is the solution.

776
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: It's among us as fans, and yes, Hall of Fame

777
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: discussions are often fun but let's be honest, they're not

778
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: as fun as they used to be. A the advanced

779
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: statistical resolution or revolution. The advanced statistical revolution we've had

780
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: in sports has has sort of provided a lot of

781
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: folks for the trump card. You know, here it is,

782
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: here's here's I can I can tell you statistically, this

783
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: guy Clearcut was the best. Not that we always haven't

784
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: had stats, but now we have so many more that

785
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: there's there's not the Hall of Fame arguments and discussions

786
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't think are as good. Also, because everybody is

787
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: addicted to being agreed with uh, the arguments turn into

788
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: well like heated like angry debates, and you know, to me,

789
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: anger is not supposed to be a part of a

790
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: sports debate. So there's the solution. Stop making halls of

791
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: Fame out to be as important as we've made them

792
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: out to be. Even some of these like football people

793
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: like well, I you know what they've done to Bill Belichick,

794
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: Like yeah, man, he should be in the Hall of Fame.

795
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: It's there's I read the writer in Kansas City who's

796
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: rationale is basically like I don't want to make the

797
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: older candidates wait any longer. Like else Greenwood, Roger Craig.

798
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: Roger Craig should be in the Hall of Fame too,

799
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson, and so I'll make Bill Belichick wait, and

800
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: I understand the perspective, but like they'll talk about like boy,

801
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: I stayed up all night wondering what I'm going Like, dude,

802
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: we're electing people to have bronze bus at a museum.

803
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if another museum that has talked about

804
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: in the same reverence as a sports Hall of Fame.

805
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: So there it is. And that doesn't mean that voting

806
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't take I mean, we shouldn't have halls of fame.

807
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: But and again, like Joey Vado is gonna be I think,

808
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: really interesting when he goes on the ballot in a

809
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: few years, because there will probably be voters who just

810
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: don't see the counting stats. He didn't compile numbers, and

811
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: there will be voters who maybe look at the RBI

812
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: total and yes, it's just not there. And then there

813
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: are gonna be voters and frankly younger ones who I

814
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: think more fully appreciate Joey's body of work. And if

815
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: he gets to Cooperstown cool, it's probably gonna be an

816
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: awesome Hall of Fame speech. I know how good Joey

817
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: Vada was. I know his significance to this sport during

818
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: the time that he played. I know his significance to

819
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: the franchise that he played for. I know what a

820
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: great hitter looks like. I know what a great hitters is.

821
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Numbers look like need seventy five percent of baseball writers

822
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: to determine a that he was a good enough baseball

823
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: player and also that he was a good enough person. Wait,

824
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: that's how dumb this process is. We've decided, the Hall

825
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: of Fame has decided that there's gotta be a character clause.

826
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: So now the baseball writers qualified to have a vote.

827
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: But the baseball writers, they're tasked with determining who the

828
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: best baseball players are. Which cool, that's their beat, but

829
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: also who the best people are because the character clause.

830
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know that a baseball

831
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: writer is more qualified to talk about how good of

832
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: a human being a baseball player is than I am. Yes,

833
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: we assign them this task that just carries with it

834
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: such historical and sacred weight. You vote for the guy,

835
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: he gets in, he gets a plaque in a museum,

836
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: if you talk about it in those terms, why are

837
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: we making these places out to be more important than

838
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: they are. Bill is generationally wealthy, has had a better

839
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: life than ninety nine percent of people who have ever lived.

840
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: His place in sports history, not just football history, could

841
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: not be more safe. He will be talked about in

842
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: one hundred years. He is one of the faces of

843
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: this league. That was true Monday morning. It's true today.

844
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: It's going to be true when he finally gets to camp.

845
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: It's not going to be any more true because he

846
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: got to Canton. It's true today. So there's the way

847
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: to not let Hall of Fame voting bother. You don't

848
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: place any more importance on it. Don't make it out

849
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: to be bigger and more important than it is. It's

850
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: not a sacred place. It's not a church. It's a museum,

851
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: a brick and mortar museum. It's got a gift shop,

852
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: it's got bathrooms, it's got screaming kids, many of them

853
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: have snack bars. It's a museum with a bunch of

854
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Speaker 2: plaques and busts. That's all it is. Well, it documents

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Speaker 2: the history of these national institutions. Stop. We have the Internet,

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Speaker 2: We have people who have written extensive books, great ones

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Speaker 2: that chronicle of sports history. Hall of Fame discussions get

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Speaker 2: people just worked in a lather every single year. My

859
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Speaker 2: colleague down the Hall, Bill Cunningham, was like legitimately mad,

860
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Speaker 2: which is kind of par for the course, but like

861
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Speaker 2: legitimately mad about the Belichick thing. And I'm like, eh,

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Speaker 2: so what he doesn't get a bronze bust in the

863
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Speaker 2: museum for a year? Are you gonna go to cant

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Speaker 2: once he gets in?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, what do you care? I know there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: swaths of sports fans who hear this, maybe swaths of

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame voters who hear this and get mad

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Speaker 2: at me. Look, it's cool. You get a chance to

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Speaker 2: vote on who's in the Hall of Fame. That's that's cool.

871
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Speaker 2: I have a Heisman Trophy vote. I take the voting seriously.

872
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: It's a trophy given to a college football player. Most

873
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: people couldn't tell you who won it three years ago.

874
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't sit down with my ballot acting like I

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Speaker 2: have some higher purpose, like some higher calling is reaching

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Speaker 2: out to me, and I, boy, if I don't get

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Speaker 2: this right, oh, man, like dude's gonna win a trophy

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna have the night of his life and

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Speaker 2: then we're all gonna move on. We've I mean in

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00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: baseball specifically, because we've had We've had fifty sixty years

881
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Speaker 2: of people like Bob Costas and Ken Burns droning on

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Speaker 2: so Sacharine sweet about Cooper's town and what like, Man,

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Speaker 2: I went to Cooper Sound dude, Never forget it was

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Speaker 2: with my dad. It's like, it's pretty cool place. Neat

885
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Speaker 2: probably would have lived a happy life had I never

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Speaker 2: gotten here like Neat cool. It's fun. Fight never come back.

887
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Speaker 2: That's fine too. Bus are cool, the plaques are cool.

888
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Speaker 2: Stuff's overpriced in the gift store. It's nice. It's a

889
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Speaker 2: museum twenty one minutes after four o'clock. Something is only

890
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: important if you make it out to be important. Let's

891
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Speaker 2: stop making Halls of Fame out to be important, and

892
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Speaker 2: I think we'll all be much much happier at moeggor

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Speaker 2: stop being the face of the Reds. I'll explain and

897
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Speaker 2: more on the college troops from last night, as well

898
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Speaker 2: more on what the Bengals may or may not screw

899
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: up this offseason and uh, don't feel bad for Dan Pitcher.

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Speaker 2: Next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 7: Thirty, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored question Yesterday at Molegar on Twitter

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Speaker 2: because that's where we post our pole questions. It's also

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Speaker 2: where we're streaming the show right now live at Mulegar.

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Speaker 2: So you four hundred and fourteen, four hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 2: people are watching this. Do we think that's a lot?

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Speaker 6: Yes? It is a last Last time we got it

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Speaker 6: seven hundred, that was four hour.

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Speaker 2: That was only for an hour. Do you think there's

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Speaker 2: anybody like four hundred and fourteen people have like clicked

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Speaker 2: on it like yeah, that's cool, and then moved on,

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Speaker 2: or like are watching it like just with rapt attention,

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Speaker 2: like putting off the rest of their days so they

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Speaker 2: could watch a guy talking to a microphone.

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Speaker 6: No, I think four hundred and thirty are.

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Speaker 2: Watching, watching, giving me their full and undivided I'll wave.

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Speaker 2: I'm waving right now. Hi. You see do you see

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Speaker 2: the chat up on your screen? There's people chat in

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Speaker 2: the check. Yeah, so that is if I click on

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Speaker 2: the thing the print, I can't read that. It's too small.

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Speaker 6: Here, I'll pop on make it bigger for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's do I want to read that stuff?

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Speaker 6: Monarting. So it's good.

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Speaker 2: It's good. Okay. So it's allowing people to engage with

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Speaker 2: the show. As we posted online on social media. There's

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Speaker 2: there's Austin Nomore. Austin Nollmore just said, what's up chat?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well you gotta you gotta be friendly with the check,

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Speaker 6: communicate with the check.

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Speaker 2: How do I how do I now see I've never done. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I just go in the stream yard and I say

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Speaker 2: something I'll watch this. This will be a big Okay,

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Speaker 2: how do I I want to click on something? Can't

944
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Speaker 2: post comments to x Twitter? I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: I don't. But you don't need to post. You can

946
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Speaker 2: just comment. Oh I could, now I could. I could

947
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Speaker 2: read the comments directly on stream yard that's exciting. They

948
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Speaker 2: say on the internet. Never read the comments, don't.

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Speaker 3: They If you can answer something like I said, I'll

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Speaker 3: like when we want commercial answer some questions.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, there's a good idea, there's they Maybe I'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Will it be creepy if I spend because you know,

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Speaker 2: the camera's on and I you know, I typically don't

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Speaker 2: look into a camera. Is it creepy or or is

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Speaker 2: it more creepy or less creepy? If while I'm on

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Speaker 2: the air, I stare into the camera so that whoever

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Speaker 2: is watching things, I'm looking right at them.

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Speaker 6: I'll got it in the studio here and that looks creepy.

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Speaker 2: He looks creepy. Just staring at the camera looks creepy. Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 2: UHI and ask dot com. We asked yesterday who the

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Speaker 2: best coach in the AFC North is, which I think

965
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: is a fun question. Zach Taylor won. He got forty

966
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Speaker 2: two point four percent of the vote, beating Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: who barely edged out Jesse Minner for second place. Todd

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Speaker 2: Monkin brought up the rear with just two point two percent.

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Speaker 2: I might ask a similar poll question as it relates

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Speaker 2: specifically to Dan Pitcher. Dan Pitcher was interviewed to be

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Speaker 2: the coach of the Browns. It didn't feel like he

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00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: was I don't want to say a serious candidate, but look,

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Speaker 2: they had a lot of folks pull out. They had

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Speaker 2: a lot of folks say I'm good. I'd rather go

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Speaker 2: back and be the coordinator for the Jags, or be

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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator for the Chargers, or co coach Lamar

977
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Jackson instead of Shan Watson Shadora Sanders. And yet still

978
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher didn't emerge as a finalist, which is fine.

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Speaker 2: I think the lesson about this is, yeah, that are

980
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: only thirty two head coaching jobs, but you can torpedo

981
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: your long term coaching prospects if you get stuck in

982
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Speaker 2: the wrong job. So I think it would be fascinating

983
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: to see what would have happened with Brian Callahan. Haddy said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take the Tennessee Titans job. I'm gonna

985
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Speaker 2: hang here for another year or two coach Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: and then see what happens. Maybe he never would have

987
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: gotten another opportunity, but it's to me, it's about getting

988
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: the right job, not just taking any job. Yes, there's

989
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: only thirty two. Yes, these guys all understandably aspire to

990
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Speaker 2: be NFL head coaches. Say what you want about the

991
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, and there's lots of very valid criticisms out there.

992
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: The Bengals rarely seem dysfunctional, like there's bad the team's

993
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: the last three years haven't been good enough. This year's

994
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: team was bad. It doesn't feel dysfunctional, doesn't feel like

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00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: there's a ton of upstairs meddling. There's meddling, there's not

996
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 2: a ton of upstairs meddling. Can you say the same

997
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: about the Cleveland Browns? Like it feels often like it's dysfunction.

998
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Why take a job with an organization where dysfunction is

999
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: the rule. You could say that about other franchises as well.

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Speaker 2: I believe Dan Pitcher has a better job than the

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Speaker 2: one that he interviewed for. Todd Munkin may do awesome.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Browns get out of the sort of purgatory

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson has them in. Maybe some of their

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Speaker 2: young players end up being as good as everybody suspects

1005
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 2: they will be. And there's some validity to that possibility.

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00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: But Dan Pitcher's attached to Joe Burrow. I disagree with

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: the the belief that Dan Pitcher himself may hold that

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01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: well because I'm with Burrow. Any success he has is

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Speaker 2: just going to be attributed to Joe Burrow. Maybe instantly, yes,

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01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: over the course of so many years, not so much.

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01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: Bengals get this thing turned around. You saw who some

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: of the candidates were this go around. A lot of retreads,

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01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: a lot of recycled, some guys who are younger than

1014
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: you might expect a head coach to be. If they

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01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: get this franchise here turned around and have larger success

1016
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: than they have had, certainly over the last three years,

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: it is impossible to imagine a world where Dan Pitcher

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01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: isn't given opportunities to seriously interview for head coaching jobs

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Speaker 2: twenty nine from five o'clock at Moegger on Twitter. We

1020
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Speaker 2: got folks watching, watching the show, just watching the show.

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Speaker 2: Sports headline which will be brief because there are none.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna throw cold water. I'm gonna throw cold

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Speaker 2: water on something. I don't want to do this, but

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw cold water on something, probably needlessly.

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Speaker 2: sports headlines this today. This is not a complaint. This

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Speaker 2: is I think the slowest Cincinnati sports news day we've

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Speaker 2: had in a while. Now. The Reds could change that

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Speaker 2: if if they find out about their TV money and

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Speaker 2: then uh Nick Crawl wakes up from his nap and

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Speaker 2: signs a guy that can help the offense. All right,

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Speaker 2: But that's that's the only like good news that I

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Speaker 2: think would happen between now and six o'clock. Anything else

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Speaker 2: that would turn into news I think would be be bad.

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Speaker 2: I was just during the break explaining to a couple

1049
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Speaker 2: of colleagues of mine the difference between a lockout and

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Speaker 2: a strike. Little CBA one oh one. We are streaming

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Speaker 2: the show on Twitter today. I gotta I got an

1052
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Speaker 2: email here asking for us to put it on threads.

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Speaker 2: That is beyond my comprehension. I only have bandwidth really

1054
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Speaker 2: for three social media platforms, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it we are. We can connect it to Instagram.

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Speaker 2: The next time we do this, we'll put it on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: You can do multiple platform We can do multiple platforms.

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Speaker 2: See this is why, this is why it's good that

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Speaker 2: you're here to do all this. Well, we'll do the

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Speaker 2: next time we do that, we'll do it one day

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Speaker 2: next week. We'll put it on Instagram too for the

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Speaker 2: Instagram audience. You wanted me to answer some some questions

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Speaker 2: or address some comments we are getting in the chat,

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Speaker 2: the real time chat what up chat? All right, now,

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Speaker 2: it's hard for me to read these, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have you read them. And it's hard for me to

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Speaker 2: read a number one on my on my laptop, Like

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Speaker 2: the font is I can't even I mean it looks

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Speaker 2: like it's tiny, right, it looks like what you would

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Speaker 2: see like an aspird bottle or something. So I need

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Speaker 2: you to read, filter them out, find the best ones,

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Speaker 2: and maybe throughout the course of the afternoon you could

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Speaker 2: read some of the comments or questions that you think

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Speaker 2: our best. Do you have any right now?

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Speaker 6: All right? Yes, we got one from our friend Dulson

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Speaker 6: on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Dolson, Let's go Dolson. Thanks thanks for listening and watching.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Pitch feels like the team is going

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Speaker 3: to have a better year this year and vastly improve

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Speaker 3: his options next year?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Hell yeah. Like if I'm Dan Pitcher, I go okay.

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Speaker 2: I got a quarterback who is gonna go through pretty

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Speaker 2: normal offseason. Maybe Joe's toe wasn't quite one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any reason to believe. You know, there have been

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Speaker 2: off seasons where you're wondering, all right, he's coming off

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Speaker 2: in injuries, rehaving an injury, that sort of thing. Obviously

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Speaker 2: that wasn't the case last year. Quarterback, normal offseason, all

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Speaker 2: the pieces in place, going into twenty twenty six, best

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Speaker 2: offensive line they've had in the Borough era. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: like our unit should be awesome. If our unit's awesome

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Speaker 2: and the defense is slightly better, we have a chance

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Speaker 2: to take off as a team. And I just Dana

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Speaker 2: and I were talking about this two weeks ago where

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Speaker 2: Dan was interviewing for the Buccaneers offensive coordinator gig and

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Speaker 2: I guess the motivation there was, I can call plays

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Speaker 2: in Tampa and I can get credit for the offense's

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Speaker 2: success that I can't necessarily get in Cincinnati. And maybe

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Speaker 2: there's validity to that, But the point was that maybe

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Speaker 2: being associated with Joe Burrow is holding Dan Pitcher back.

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Speaker 2: And I watched the Eric b Enemy saga unfold where,

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, an offensive coordinator who wasn't tasked with

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Speaker 2: calling plays, just wasn't given quite the credit for how

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Speaker 2: that Chiefs offense took off once Patrick Mahomes became the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Now I've heard Eric b Enemy has interviewed very, very poorly.

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Speaker 2: Whether or not that's true, I have no idea heard

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Speaker 2: that about other coaches like Mike Zimmer, and he ultimately

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Speaker 2: got his opportunity. I think though, number one, you saw

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Speaker 2: a very shallow pool of candidates this offseason. That's not

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Speaker 2: to say some of them won't go on to be

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Speaker 2: very good head coaches. But I don't know that there

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Speaker 2: was anybody that you were like, Wow, holy crap, boy,

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Speaker 2: wish wish the Bengals could hire that guy. And that's

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Speaker 2: in an offseason where John Harball was available. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that the pool of candidates is going to be

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Speaker 2: any deeper. You're probably going to have still anywhere from

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Speaker 2: five to six, seven, maybe eight teams looking for new

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Speaker 2: head coaches. Hell one of them might be the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like if the team takes off this year,

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Speaker 2: he's going to be taken more seriously as a candidate.

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Speaker 2: Now at that point, it's on him, and it's on

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Speaker 2: him to interview well and make the right presentation and

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Speaker 2: maybe sell himself and have a clearly outlined vision for

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Speaker 2: what the organization's goals are going to be and how

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Speaker 2: he wants to get things done and all that. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know how there's a world where if the

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Speaker 2: Bengals are really good and the offense is a major

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Speaker 2: reason why, which I think most of us expect that

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Speaker 2: to be the case, where there's not some interest, like

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Speaker 2: serious interest. And by the way, if in the middle

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Speaker 2: of all that, Joe Burrow sprinkles some dust autumn and says,

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Speaker 2: you know what, don't want to lose my OC But

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Speaker 2: hell yeah, Dan Pitcher should be a coach that can't hurt.

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Speaker 2: So I think he has a better job than the

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Speaker 2: coach of the Cleveland Browns. Like there's young talent in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Tony talked about this often during the season. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with quin Shawn Judkins injury, but like,

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Speaker 2: I'd take that guy. I have some good players, still

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Speaker 2: have Miles Garrett, though he was posting cryptic messages on

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Speaker 2: Instagram after the Todd Munkin thing. But that's just an

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Speaker 2: organization that, for a variety of reasons just hasn't been

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Speaker 2: able to get out of its own way. Doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like very good or stable ownership. They have cycled through

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of coaches. That Deshaun Watson thing is

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: still a thing, and you know you're you're still in

1146
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: a very The AFC North wasn't great this year, but

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01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 2: you're still in a competitive division with historically well run

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: franchises in Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Dan Pitcher has a great offense.

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Speaker 2: I know what Dan Pitcher. I know that the side

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Speaker 2: of the ball that Dan Pitcher is in charge of.

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Speaker 2: I know what they can be. The team that Todd

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: Munkins and part of a part of in charge of.

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Speaker 2: I know what they have been, and I'm skeptical about

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Speaker 2: what they can be. That was a good question, though

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Speaker 2: more throughout the course of the afternoon watching on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at Maleger, I don't want to do this, but it

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: came up on Sincy three to sixty, and it came

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Speaker 2: up briefly on my show today. You see won last night.

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Speaker 2: They're now eleven and ten, it has been suggested, and

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Speaker 2: don't overlook who they play on Saturday, a Houston team

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Speaker 2: that if you watched them last night against TCU just

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: played the quintessential Houston game, where like every time they

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Speaker 2: needed to make a play they did quite legitimately. The

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Speaker 2: team I hope wins it all this year. I wanted

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Speaker 2: them to last year, and they came damn close. I

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Speaker 2: admire the hell out of any program that in this

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Speaker 2: day and age can carve out an identity. But the

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Speaker 2: Bearcats have to play them on Saturday. Ain't gonna be easy.

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Speaker 2: And then the schedule does it eases up a tad.

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Speaker 2: Now you're still playing in the Big twelve, but you

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Speaker 2: get a stretch of games where you're going to play

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Speaker 2: starting on next Thursday at home. You're gonna play West Virginia,

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01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 2: who you lost to UCF, who you lost to. But

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Speaker 2: those games are here, Those are winnable games. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: go two Kansas State, who isn't great. You're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Utah come here, and then I hate to tell you,

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Speaker 2: then they have to go to Kansas and Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: and back to back games. But it does feel like

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Speaker 2: they've got some winnable games in front of them. I

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Speaker 2: don't even want to say. It feels like they're gonna

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: go in a little bit of a run. I have

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Speaker 2: seen it suggested on my social media feed. You know what,

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Speaker 2: if they could just win seven more, they've got a shot. Well,

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Speaker 2: if they win seven more, that puts them at eighteen

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Speaker 2: wins with thirteen losses. No two years are the same.

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: No two NCAA NCAA tournament fields or bubbles are the same.

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Speaker 2: But just as an illustration, West Virginia was one of

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Speaker 2: the last teams out last year. The Mountaineers finished with

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Speaker 2: a nineteen and thirteen record. They finished with a five

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Speaker 2: hundred record in the Big twelve twenty game schedule in

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Speaker 2: the twelve Last year ten and ten, the Mountaineers had

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Speaker 2: four Quadrant one wins. They had zero Q four losses.

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Speaker 2: They finished with a net rating of fifty. Their exclusion

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Speaker 2: from last year's tournament doesn't necessarily mean that any particular

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Speaker 2: school is going to be excluded this year, but their

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Speaker 2: net was fifty right now. Last I looked, Cincinnati's net

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Speaker 2: is in the seventies seventy four. The Bearcats do have

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Speaker 2: a Q four loss. They have just one Q four

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Speaker 2: win or Q one win like they're eleven and ten. Man,

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Speaker 2: there are nothing I want more than to sit here

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Speaker 2: one day and talk about the Bearcats NCAA Tournament chances

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Speaker 2: Number one from a basketball perspective. A team that has

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Speaker 2: struggled with consistency and has struggled on the offensive end

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Speaker 2: all season long. We're now we're putting them with wins

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Speaker 2: in seven of their last ten games. I hope they do.

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Speaker 2: They run the table. That'd be neat in the absence

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Speaker 2: of that. When they still have a schedule that plays

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Speaker 2: that has Houston, Texas, Tech, Kansas and BYU on it,

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Speaker 2: then you're gonna have to win one of those games

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Speaker 2: plus all the others. And then if you do that,

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Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan loss is not going away, and the math

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Speaker 2: is still going to be really, really hard. This is

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Speaker 2: not something we're gonna dwell on because they're eleven and ten.

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Speaker 2: Man Like, just at this point, just play better, more

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Speaker 2: consistent basketball. And I mean, we're not doing this with

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Speaker 2: Xavier right now. Xavier's got the same exact overall record

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Speaker 2: eleven and ten after losing last night, unfortunately, making the

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Speaker 2: tournament is just it's not happening this year. Man Like,

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Speaker 2: he get mad at me for saying it, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure some will. It's gonna be a UC and zavior

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Speaker 2: less March madness this year and it pains me to

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Speaker 2: say that, But what looms over the entire conversation for

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Speaker 2: me is West Virginia not making it last year. And

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Speaker 2: you know there's always a team that is on the

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Speaker 2: outside looking in that people make the case for. I

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Speaker 2: looked at that and said, dude, you lost thirteen times,

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Speaker 2: win more games, and that was a team that didn't

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Speaker 2: have a Q four loss. There you go, there's the

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Speaker 2: cold water five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: The face of the Reds is not Elie Dela Cruz

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Speaker 2: and it's not Hunter Green, and I can't wait for

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Speaker 2: that to change. Will make that make sense? Coming up

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Speaker 2: at five oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Just hearing Steve Rawley do the weather, which the last

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Speaker 2: week or so, once the snow stopped. It's a little

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Speaker 2: bit like being a weather person in San Diego. Ever,

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Speaker 2: talked to a meteorologist in San Diego. Pretty easy gig

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Speaker 2: every day is seventy eight and sunny. Every day here

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Speaker 2: is like four degrees and cloudy, just brutal out I

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Speaker 2: as a rule, I don't we don't talk politics on

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Speaker 2: this show. Ever, I'm very proud of that there needs

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Speaker 2: to be places that people can go where they are

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Speaker 2: clear and free of a lot of the really lousy

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Speaker 2: stuff going on in the world and the real world

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Speaker 2: conversations that accompany that stuff. And this I pride myself

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Speaker 2: on being one of those places. But I will say

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Speaker 2: this very quickly that if any political candidate locally runs

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Speaker 2: on this platform of if your kid misses an entire

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Speaker 2: week of school because of whether and they're at home,

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Speaker 2: your employers should give you an extra week of PTO

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Speaker 2: any politician who runs on that platform, regardless of party,

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Speaker 2: gets my vote. I don't know about you, but that's

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Speaker 2: been our household every day, every day this week, Monday

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Speaker 2: and Tuesday got it, Wednesday, Eh, today tomorrow, especially because

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Speaker 2: I believe and we're in a very good district. Love

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Speaker 2: our teachers. But my understanding is that our district, the

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Speaker 2: teachers are there like they're there preparing for what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen when the kids come back. Why don't you

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Speaker 2: just have the you know, the kids back. So if

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Speaker 2: you were thinking about running for office nationally, locally, whatever

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Speaker 2: it is, and you want an official endorsement on this show,

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: run on that platform. If your child misses an entire week,

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01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: an entire week, which I'm certainly not complaining, but is

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of a hassle when both parents work right,

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: kind of sprung on you suddenly. Uh you your employers

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 2: should be forced to give you an extra week of PTO.

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Speaker 2: And that's all I have to say about that. Uh

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01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: five point three seven four. I will take some phone

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Speaker 2: calls in the five o'clock hour. I absolutely promise, is

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: I make that guarantee to you. We do have folks

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: who are watching this right now on Twitter at Moeger

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: and we have more of their questions, comments and concerns

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: to get to Tarin during the breaks. I see that

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01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,480
Speaker 2: you are putting on the screen a shot of downtown Cincinnati.

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01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: Is that live? Is that a live shot? It with

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01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 2: like ice on the Ohio River?

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's very cool that you do that. I can't wait

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01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: to do this during the summer when that scenery is

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: a lot better. Where is that shot taken from? Uh,

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01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: somewhere in Kentucky. Somewhere in Covington. Ye, somewhere in Covington.

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01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 2: A shot of downtown is it like? Is it like

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01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: video or is it a picture so you could see

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Speaker 2: like barges going past and everything?

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Speaker 6: Yes? Correct, very good.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that barge driver was the second occupation

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01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: I wanted after radio host? Looks awesome. Sitting in a

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: room driving a barge seems peaceful, seems nice. Maybe that's

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01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: my second career. Who knows? On the cold, no, I

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01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: would imagine like in the weather like this, it's it's

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01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: kind of crummy. Don't don't necessarily want to be doing that.

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Speaker 2: I'll complain more. I'm not complaining about the Hall of

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: Fame thing with Bill Belichick. I just I've gotten to

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: a point as somebody who has fallen into the trap

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01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 2: of believing that halls of fame are more important than

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: they are. I'm no longer stuck in that trap. So

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Speaker 2: you want to leave out my favorite athlete, leave my

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01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: favorite athlete, it ain't gonna change my mind. It's not

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: gonna make me mad or not gonna make me mad anymore.

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Speaker 2: More on that coming up, and we'll talk extensions on

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Speaker 3: No one coach the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: So I'm not supposed to do this, but I don't

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 2: do it often. The local newspaper columnist Jason Williams sports

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: columnist Jason Williams, who does a terrific job, works here

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: part time, does shows down the hall. Terrific guy, very

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01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: good columnist, was a great political reporter. He's answering a

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Speaker 2: letter about a letter to the editor that we referenced

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Speaker 2: last week. So the head of the Cincinnati USA Regional

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:35,440
Speaker 2: Chamber wrote last week about it's time to forgive Phil Castellini.

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Speaker 2: It's time to move on, It's time to let go

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01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 2: of the bitterness and anger because of Phil's comments in

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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, where are you going to go? Right?

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01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: And this is in the aftermath of Phil got booed

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Speaker 2: at a Xavier game where they introduced the partnership or

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01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: you know it kind of made public, celebrated the partnership

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Speaker 2: if you will, between the Reds and Xavier University and

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 2: Byron Larkin and Barry Larkin obviously did not get bood.

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Speaker 2: Phil Castellini did. And so there was a letter to

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Speaker 2: the editor by this Brendan call Guy, Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber.

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01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: And I know Brendan a little bit, and you know,

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01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: he made the point that the Reds do a lot

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01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: of great things in the community, and they stand for

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: a lot of good things, and hey, opening day is

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: supposed to Unitas and it's almost here. There was no

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01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,919
Speaker 2: real mention of the you know, six months of baseball

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01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 2: every year that the Reds in recent history haven't been

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01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 2: good at and the lack of championships and the lack

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01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 2: of postseason advancement. But Okay, fine, And then so Jason's

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Speaker 2: writing about that today and it's a good piece. Go

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01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: read it, Cincinnati dot Com. Here should be a goal

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01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this while reading the piece.

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01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with what Jason wrote, but go read

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01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: it for yourself. I'm not going to turn a column

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01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: into a show because we're not supposed to do that,

1354
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: though we have in the past. Do you know who

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01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: the owner of the Golden State Warriors is? Off the

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01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: top of your head. Do you know, off the top

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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: of your head, who the owner of the Milwaukee Brewers is?

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01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: Right now at the top of your head, who owns

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: the LA Dodgers, Off the top of your head, who

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01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: owns the Who's the Seattle Seahawks? Who owns the LA Rams.

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Speaker 2: The goal here for this franchise, whether it's right or wrong,

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01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 2: fair or not. The face of the Cincinnati Reds is

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01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: Phil Castellini. I don't say that disparagingly, but he's the

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Speaker 2: face of ownership, and with this franchise in particular, ownership

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: gets talked about a lot because when a team doesn't win,

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01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 2: ownership gets talked about a lot. I've been a Cincinnati

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: Bengals fan my entire life when they've been bad. Mike

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01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: Brown gets talked about a lot now, doesn't make himself public.

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 2: If there were a Bengals Xavier partnership they were introducing

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Speaker 2: that night, my guess is Mike wouldn't be the one

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Speaker 2: on the microphone neither, to be fair, was Bob Castellini.

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Speaker 2: But Phil is the face and voice of Red's ownership.

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: With when teams don't win, we talk about their owners

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: too much. A goal for this team should be this offseason, UH,

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01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 2: to get people talking more about the players on the field,

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01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: To get people talking more about the actual on field product,

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01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: to get people to feel so good about the brand

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Speaker 2: that ownership is never really a part of the discussion.

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Speaker 2: For the life of me and I bring up the

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01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: Brewers because they've kind of run this division this decade.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you the name of their owner. I

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01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: don't care. Not a controversial person. A lot of owners,

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01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: maybe of successful teams, decide to be celebrity owners. Bob

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01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: Kraft does. Bob Craft's been a very successful owner. If

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: you have to put an owner in the Hall of Fame,

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01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 2: I'd say Heat is to be in. So does Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick for what it's worth. But man by and large.

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Speaker 2: When I think of successful sports teams and their ownership,

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01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,919
Speaker 2: I don't think of celebrities. I don't think of really anything.

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01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: I know, the Hunt family owns the Chiefs because the

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01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs are among a handful of franchises that have been

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01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: owned by the same family for a very long time,

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Speaker 2: like the Rooneys, like the Browns, like the Hallas slash

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01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: McCaskey family in Chicago, like the Mayors in New York

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01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 2: with the Giants, and so you know, your your family

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01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: is a part of a franchise over so many generations.

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: Folks are gonna know. I can't say the last time

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01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 2: the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs made news for

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01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: doing anything other than being handed a trophy, because that

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01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: franchise even before they got mahomes and it's been pretty

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01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: successful on the field. So like that's how it changes.

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01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: Folks will probably always hold against Phil Casteline the opening

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01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: day comments from four years ago. It's it's it's it's

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01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: part of who he is. It's like booing yadi Air

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01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 2: Molina ten years after he fought Brandon Phillips. Right by

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01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: by then, you know, most kind of moved on from

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01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Brandon Phillips versus YadA Air Molina. But you boot him

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01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: because you're kind of supposed to, by the way, folks

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01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis did the same thing with Brandon Phillips.

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: You boom because this one thing happened and you're kind

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01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: of supposed to. But unfortunately with this franchise and this

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01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 2: offseason has been very quiet. Now that doesn't mean not productive,

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01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: because they've made the bullpen better, and I feel like

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: I have to keep mentioning that, so it sounds like

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not, you know, just gratuitously banging on the Reds.

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01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: But overall, it's been a pretty quiet offseason. They haven't

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01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 2: addressed their biggest weakness right now. They're apparently in a

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01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: holding pattern, hoping the rest of the sport waits around

1419
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: for them to figure out what their TV situation is

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01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: going to be. And then if they figure out what

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01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: their TV situation is going to be and there's some

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 2: money that they then can go try to get a bat.

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01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: We'll see. But in part because of the inactivity, in

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01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: part because of the losing, in part because Phil does

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 2: choose himself, or has historically less so over the last

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01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: couple of years, make himself a very public, forward facing

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01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 2: figure for the organization. It's kind of taken over as

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01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: the face of the franchise now. I think one might

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01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 2: argue pretty successfully that the face of the baseball part

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01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: of it is Tito Francona. There's some validity to that.

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Speaker 6: To me.

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01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 2: That's part of why I hire him, right, He's good

1433
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: at delivering a message. Nick Crawl, not so much. Phil Castellini.

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: From a baseball perspective, maybe not so much. But the

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01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: goal should be for us to stop writing about talking

1436
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: about reading about podcasting about ownership. There's only one way

1437
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 2: that happens. If they win. We're not suddenly going to

1438
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,719
Speaker 2: start talking about how great ownership is all the time.

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01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: That's not how it works. You know, in Los Angeles

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01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: they talk about Shoe Heyo Tawny and Dave Roberts and

1441
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: Mookie Betts. I don't know that they spend a ton

1442
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: of Freddie Freeman. I don't know that they spend a

1443
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: ton of time on ownership, maybe gloating about the financial

1444
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,520
Speaker 2: advantages they have. What I see or think successful franchise

1445
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 2: I often the San Antonio Spurs were awesome for a

1446
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: good fifteen year stretch, won five NBA titles. I couldn't

1447
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: begin to tell you the name of their owner. I'd

1448
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: have to strain myself to think about who was on

1449
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: stage when they were getting handed the Larry O'Brien Trophy.

1450
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: For the most part, with exceptions, well run franchises, the

1451
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: most well known owners in sports dudes like James Dolan

1452
01:26:55,040 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: nicks most of the century punchline. Although big win last night,

1453
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 2: the HASLMS in Cleveland just a disaster. The dude who

1454
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: you Daniel Snyder used to own the Commanders before then.

1455
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: Obviously the Redskins. The longer they don't win, the longer

1456
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: they're associated with the brand that they have, which is

1457
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: don't go to the end of the earth to try

1458
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: to win a title, the more ownership is going to

1459
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: be talked about because of the public's reaction to it.

1460
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: That's not going to change. It's not going to change

1461
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: with one playoff appearance and two playoff losses to the

1462
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: LA Dodgers. It's not going to change with a nice

1463
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 2: eighty three win season. Not even sure it changes if

1464
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: the reds are a little bit better this year. I

1465
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: think it's going to change when folks feel like that

1466
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 2: ownership is as invested as they are. It's going to

1467
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: change when it if people who care about the Cincinnati

1468
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: Reds look at this team and how it's run and

1469
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: believe that, no matter what, ownership will do everything in

1470
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 2: its power to deliver a World Series championship to Cincinnati.

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01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: And by the way, maybe they will. Right, Maybe they will,

1472
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 2: And maybe they're working even harder for that to happen

1473
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 2: than the public might perceive. And maybe they're more committed

1474
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 2: than one may suggest they are. Maybe, But like it

1475
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 2: or not, this is their brand. Like there are just

1476
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: some things that from a public perspective, you can't get around.

1477
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 2: Right now, you have a lot of college sports fans

1478
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 2: who say I don't have the same connection with my

1479
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: team because of all the player movement, and as long

1480
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 2: as people feel that way, college sports as an institution

1481
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 2: has a problem. Baseball, you have a lot of fans

1482
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: who feel like, because of just the economics of the game,

1483
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 2: my team has no chance. Maybe those people are wrong,

1484
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Maybe those folks should think, you know what, my team,

1485
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,480
Speaker 2: if it was more well run, made better financial decisions,

1486
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: they would have a chance. But as long as you

1487
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 2: have that enormous chunk of people who believe my team

1488
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 2: has no chance, you know what you gotta that's reality

1489
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: and you have to you have to work within that

1490
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: reality when you talk about baseball's economics, and until things

1491
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: change here where people feel like, you know what, ownership

1492
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: isn't going to do everything it can to win, then

1493
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: that's basically gonna be reality, and that's going to be

1494
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: the brand, and that's what people are going to think

1495
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: about when they react to the owner of the team

1496
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 2: being at a public event. Might not be entirely fair.

1497
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: To a degree it isn't like to a degree it isn't,

1498
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: but that's not changing now. If things ever go the

1499
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: other way, it ain't going to be like ownership is

1500
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 2: going to be given large standing ovations every time it's introduced.

1501
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 2: It's basically going to fade to the background. If the

1502
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 2: face of your team, though, if the most talked about

1503
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: figure is an owner, either there's a sale the team

1504
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: going on, or there's probably losing outweighing the winning, or

1505
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: there's a scandal. There's been no real scandal, been a

1506
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,759
Speaker 2: lot of losing a lot more than winning. When that changes,

1507
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 2: the face of the team will not be the owner.

1508
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: That should be the goal. Sixteen minutes after five o'clock

1509
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: folks winning on hold one away, five one, three, seven,

1510
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll get you in eight sixty six,

1511
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: seven oh two three seven seven six. More on the

1512
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 2: college basketball from last night, and uh the I I

1513
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: know the next time there's a Hall of Fame results

1514
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: maybe even this coming week with the class of twenty

1515
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: twenty six being unveiled, which is a week from tonight.

1516
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 2: Uh in San Francisco. There's gonna be anger, it's gonna

1517
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: be heated discussions, there's gonna be debates. Those things are

1518
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 2: all really really fun, but we've got to stop attaching

1519
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 2: more importance to a Hall of Fame than it deserves.

1520
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: More on that coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1521
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Sports Station Block. On Twitter, we have how many folks

1522
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: are watching right now? Tarren? How many people are watching?

1523
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 3: You're up to ninety four, nine hundred and forty four.

1524
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: What was that image you were showing? Live image that

1525
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 2: you were showing during the break? Where was that from? Uh?

1526
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 6: That was from some camera up in matt Adams.

1527
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 2: So like, is that a thing? There's like live cameras

1528
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 2: all over the city and we could just steal them

1529
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 2: all over the world. Yes, all over the world thanks

1530
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 2: to our friends of the earthcam. Wow, would it make

1531
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: sense for us to find the earthcam like in Saint

1532
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 2: Thomas or Tahiti or something to make people feel like

1533
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: it's not negative five degrees out or whatever it is

1534
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 2: right now?

1535
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 6: I think that is making me a you man.

1536
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably probably some. We'll just remind everybody how miserable

1537
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 2: it is outside. Our friend Jeff is in. Do we

1538
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: have folks still participating in the chat? And are they

1539
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 2: enjoying sitting here watching the show on Twitter?

1540
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1541
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 2: There are some interesting comments in the chat. There are

1542
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: always interesting comments in any chat. Are there any that

1543
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 2: matter that? Are any that are Are there any that are

1544
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 2: relevant into the show itself? Or are they just all

1545
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 2: making fun of me?

1546
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 6: No? No, no, not making fun of them.

1547
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 2: It's okay if they are, trust me, trust me.

1548
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 6: There is one earlier that I wanted to get to

1549
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,440
Speaker 6: my friend since he Quinn.

1550
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 2: Since he Quinn five to one three.

1551
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: He said, I always pictured you doing this in a

1552
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 3: smoke field room with a lit cigar.

1553
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 6: I'm disappointed.

1554
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, it is a non smoking facility, unfortunately, Well not unfortunately,

1555
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: it should be a non smoking facility. I don't know

1556
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 2: that we have the proper ventilation in here to be

1557
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 2: able to enjoy a cigar. But you know, I am

1558
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 2: old enough to remember working with the great Andy Furman

1559
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 2: and the before I really got into cigars, when I

1560
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 2: was like in college, and I'd have to work on

1561
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Sunday mornings with Andy, but he would come in and

1562
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: do the do Sunday morning sports talk with Tom Tinkle,

1563
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: and Andy would sometimes bring in bagels and pastries and stuff,

1564
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: but he would invariably enjoy a cigar while he was

1565
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: doing the show. I'm old enough to remember working with

1566
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 2: and doing remote shows at places like Reds Fest, like

1567
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 2: the old Reds Fest, which is nowhere near as good

1568
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 2: as the current Reds Fest. I remember once engineering and

1569
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 2: producing a bunch of shows that he was doing from

1570
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 2: like area Applebee's, and they still had a smoking section

1571
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: and he would enjoy a cigar during the show. And

1572
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: I'm envious to a degree of the fact that in

1573
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: my career doing the show, it's I've not been able

1574
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: to enjoy a cigar for the most part. That's We

1575
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 2: did the show from the LPGA Golf tournament last year,

1576
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: and that was the cool part about it was doing

1577
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: the show outside and being able to enjoy a cigar.

1578
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 6: There is one place you can do.

1579
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 3: You can have a cigar into the show where your

1580
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 3: backyard when it's warm.

1581
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: The backyard show would be fun. We've talked about doing that.

1582
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 2: I've talked about doing the backyard Now we have a

1583
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: live stream to incorporate.

1584
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 6: To man, but.

1585
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 2: Dude, do folks want to watch me sitting in my

1586
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 2: backyard doing a radio show I'm gonna do. I'm gonna

1587
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 2: do a backyard show next year. Uh Now, I mean

1588
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: we need to be abundantly clear like that. That's not

1589
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean we're inviting a bunch of people I've

1590
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: never met before over my house.

1591
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, like we don't.

1592
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: I don't need trust me. We we we most definitely.

1593
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: I've had enough strangers visit my home already. We we are.

1594
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 2: We are good there. But yes, this summer, we are.

1595
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 2: This spring, We're gonna do it. I don't know if

1596
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 2: we can do it during the summer when the equipment

1597
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 2: might melt.

1598
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, one of my biggest goals for this live

1599
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 3: streaming is I want to I want to live stream

1600
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 3: you guys one opening day wherever you're at at.

1601
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: Least Yeah, no, that I think we should make I

1602
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: think that'd be fun. You know, we were typically we're

1603
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: typically at Smoke Justice. I certainly hope we're back this year.

1604
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 6: Me too. There, I think we should.

1605
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 2: Do that and then live streaming. Yeah, right, that'll be

1606
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 2: that'll be a goal for us. Well, you said, our

1607
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: friend Jeff carr is in the chat. Has he had

1608
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: anything to add.

1609
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 6: Yes, he said, points of your comment before the break.

1610
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 3: Phil also added to the idea of my team can't

1611
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 3: win when he told the Rosie Rays the percentage of

1612
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 3: teams who are out of the world serious attention on

1613
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 3: opening Day.

1614
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 2: You know, I think Jeff, you're right, thanks for participating.

1615
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: Bud Ceiling is in the Hall of Fame. And that's

1616
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, a pretty controversial, if you will, election, because

1617
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 2: you know, the steroid guys, for the most part, have

1618
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: been denied entry, but the commissioner during the steroid era

1619
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 2: has been granted entry to the Hall of Fame. And

1620
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 2: there were some really good things in large periods of

1621
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 2: growth in baseball when Bud Sealing was the commissioner, and

1622
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: some things he implemented that turned out to be pretty good.

1623
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 2: But I think that Bud Ceilings, Bud Sealing's lasting legacy

1624
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 2: in the sport is it was during his regime that

1625
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 2: he almost went out of his way to convince baseball

1626
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:03,879
Speaker 2: fans that their team has no chance, to the extent

1627
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: that he tried to tell fans in Minnesota, your team

1628
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 2: is so ill equipped to win that we're going to

1629
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 2: take it away. Remember when he tried to contract and

1630
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: take away the Minnesota Twins. I'm grossly oversimplifying that situation,

1631
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 2: but like that's that's that is to me, the legacy

1632
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 2: he was commissioner from with ninety two to twenty fourteen.

1633
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 2: When I think of that stretch, I believe he normalized

1634
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: and started to put in people's heads, fans and owners,

1635
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 2: the belief that your team has no chance. Many will

1636
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 2: say that that is a misguided belief. Many will say,

1637
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, but look at all the small to

1638
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 2: mid market teams that have had success. The Kansas City

1639
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: Royals won a couple of or went to a couple

1640
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 2: of World Series, won one. The Tampa Bay Rays have

1641
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 2: been pretty consistent playoff teams. The Milwaukee Brewers continually have

1642
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: teams in the postseason. And if you're in the postseason

1643
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 2: and then you've got a shot. Even before Oakland A's

1644
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 2: ownership essentially tank the entire franchise. They had a long

1645
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 2: stretch where they were pretty good every year. The Pirates

1646
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 2: had some success in the mid twenty tens where they

1647
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 2: were at least in the postseason on a pretty frequent

1648
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 2: basis for a couple of years. But I do believe this.

1649
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 2: It's the biggest issue this sport has right now. Whether

1650
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: it's a real issue or an imagined issue is irrelevant.

1651
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 2: You have too many fans who feel like their team

1652
01:37:32,200 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 2: has no chance. That's a fact. They may be wrong,

1653
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: their perspective may be misguided, and believing that may may

1654
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 2: allow some owners to get off the hook. Like I

1655
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 2: think it's criminal how the Pittsburgh Pirates have been run.

1656
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 2: It's criminal how the Oakland A's were run before they

1657
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 2: moved to Sacramento, and which obviously will eventually be posting

1658
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 2: up in Vegas. But you talked to a thousand baseball fans,

1659
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 2: Maybe not the majority, but you're gonna get a huge

1660
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: number of people who will say the biggest issue they

1661
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: have in the sport is I feel like my team

1662
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 2: has almost no chance. They may be right, they may

1663
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: be a little bit off base, but that belief has

1664
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 2: been fueled over the last number of decades by a

1665
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: commissioner that went out of his way to communicate that

1666
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 2: to a lot of fans, owners of teams who have

1667
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: communicated that to their fans, and then you know results

1668
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: like Kyle Tucker going to the two time defending World

1669
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 2: Series champion. So the set it's the single biggest issue

1670
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: the sport faces right now, and as as good as

1671
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: so many of the you know, on field initiatives have been,

1672
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 2: because the on field product right now in baseball truly

1673
01:38:56,280 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 2: is awesome. It's great pitch clock, fewer pickoff throws, making

1674
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 2: it more television friendly. We've got just a ton of

1675
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: great stars right in their prime. We don't have as

1676
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 2: many stodgy people talking about unwritten rules. We've kind of

1677
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: gotten the game is global, like it is terrific on

1678
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 2: the field. But I think for a lot of folks,

1679
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 2: all of that is outweighed by the belief that their

1680
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 2: team doesn't have a chance, doesn't have a chance for

1681
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: like legitimate sustained success. You know, whether it's right or wrong, forever,

1682
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds are going to be compared to the

1683
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies. It is often an unfair comparison, but they

1684
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 2: were good for a decade, and really, if you go

1685
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: into the early eighties and incorporate maybe the early sixties,

1686
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: good for a really long time. There's a lot of

1687
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 2: fans who feel like their team has no such run

1688
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 2: in them. Think the Atlanta Braves in the postseason every

1689
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 2: year from ninety one through two thousand and five as

1690
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: a division winner. And we're using extreme examples, extraordinarily extreme examples,

1691
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 2: but even a run like the Cardinals for twenty five

1692
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 2: years relevant every single season. I didn't feel like here

1693
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 2: when the Reds got really bad in the mid twenty tens,

1694
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 2: which they were after they made the postseason in ten, twelve,

1695
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 2: and thirteen, they ended up being wretched for essentially the

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Speaker 2: rest of the decade. And you had fans then who

1697
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Speaker 2: just said, well, this is the cost of being good

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Speaker 2: for a couple of years, you have to be this

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Speaker 2: bad now. I don't believe that to be the case.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that you have to go through years

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Speaker 2: of not being relevant if you're good for a couple

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Speaker 2: of years. I think that is woefully off base. But

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Speaker 2: as long as a lot of your customers or potential

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Speaker 2: customers believe that that's the case, you've got a problem.

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Speaker 2: And so this is not something I planned on talking

1706
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 2: about today. But we're gonna go through this season coming up.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully here it goes well. We'll see if the Reds

1708
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 2: get back to the postseason. But we are looking at

1709
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Speaker 2: the possibility of a really, really long workstoppage and what

1710
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 2: its result is going to be. My guess is using

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01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: history as a guide as the owners don't get what

1712
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: they want. But I believe what is inescapable for both

1713
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Speaker 2: sides is what I just talked about. There's tons of

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Speaker 2: people who love the game played it, love the ballpark experience,

1715
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 2: want to jump in with both feet into every single season,

1716
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 2: want to believe their team, if things go their way,

1717
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 2: if they're well run, has a chance to win. I

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Speaker 2: hate the fact that people feel that way because I

1719
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 2: feel like it bails out teams that aren't successful. It

1720
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Speaker 2: bails out teams that don't try. It bails out teams

1721
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 2: that are content to just sort of be mediocre. But

1722
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: people do feel that way, and that is inescapable, and

1723
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 2: it's a huge problem. So is my time management because

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Speaker 2: I'm late one thousand views, one thousand views. We've hit

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Speaker 2: one thousand views. Is that good? Like one thousand views

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Speaker 2: at a time. There are one thousand twenty people watching it.

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Speaker 2: There's more than a thousand people watching me talk about

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01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 2: baseball's economics, seated here in a studio by myself.

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Speaker 6: Yes, wow, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yes, I'll look at the camera. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for watching, in for listening to ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty and Mullwegger on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: There are none in the sports headlines right now. I

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Speaker 2: to issue this reminder. The West Miller Radio Show is

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Speaker 2: tonight at eight o'clock on seven hundred WLWS. You probably

1752
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 2: know that show is typically broadcast from the original Montgomery In,

1753
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 2: but because of renovations to the original Montgomery In, the

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Speaker 2: West Miller Radio Show is being moved to the studio.

1755
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: So tonight at eight o'clock, you'll still have Dan, you'll

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Speaker 2: still have Terry, you'll still have West. I'll still be

1757
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: talking about UC basketball, but you're not going to be

1758
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 2: able to hang out with them, you know what. That's

1759
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 2: maybe Dan and Terry will let you come up to

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01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 2: the studio. I don't know.

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01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 6: Maybe the stream.

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01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll live streams. They do that for the Richard

1763
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Patino Radio Show. Have you noticed that? Yes, they do.

1764
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Speaker 2: They do a live stream on Is it on Twitter?

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Speaker 6: Facebook?

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01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 2: It's they put it on Facebook. Yes, So like everybody's

1767
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 2: crabby sixty eight year old uncle could watch the Richard

1768
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: Patina Radio Show. That's cool, So we're kind of like

1769
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 2: them or are they kind of like us? So yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe they'll maybe they'll stream it. I have no idea,

1771
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 2: but anyway, you are certainly more more than encouraged to

1772
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Speaker 2: go to the original Montgomery In, which frankly sounds amazing

1773
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 2: right now, but there will be no West Miller Radio show.

1774
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 2: So now you can go to the original Montgomery In

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Speaker 2: and bring a listening device like the iHeartRadio app, and

1776
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 2: as long as you're not bothering the other patrons there,

1777
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 2: you can listen to the show that they do in

1778
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 2: studio in studio while enjoying some ribs or they're amazing

1779
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Speaker 2: pork chops could go a gigantic vat of Sarah tooga

1780
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Speaker 2: chips right now. The point is this no West Miller

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01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 2: show tonight at the original Montgomery End, but it is

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01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 2: on from eight to nine on seven hundred WLW. As

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01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 2: they talked about last night's U See victory over Baylor

1784
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:20,879
Speaker 2: and the Bears and Dan Skillings no Dan Skillings revenge

1785
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 2: game last night. By the way, speaking of the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: if you missed yesterday, we had Chase Brown and t

1787
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Higgins on the show. Chase and T talked about contract

1788
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 2: extensions and more. We also had a very good interview

1789
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: with Sam Brookhouse from SUMER Sports. He joined us from

1790
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl practices in will be able to talk

1791
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 2: about some early Bengals draft storylines and Rick Boring on you.

1792
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 2: I was gonna say in UK on Xavier and NKU basketball,

1793
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: we should have gotten a UK guest. We shot to

1794
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 2: call Matt Jones yesterday because tag bb and understandably so

1795
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 2: having a meltdown after getting throttled by Vanderbilt on a

1796
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Speaker 2: Tuesday night. All of that and so much more on

1797
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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app tomorrow on the show The Off Season

1798
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Rundown with James Rapine the studio, he is gonna be,

1799
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 2: He's gonna be on the phone. What does what he's doing?

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Speaker 2: He can make a trip up here, he can tarn However,

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Speaker 2: because schools are never going to reopen again, I will

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Speaker 2: be broadcasting from my house, gotcha, Because schools are not

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01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 2: going to reopen until it's at least sixty degrees.

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Speaker 6: Are you bring your daughter to work day if you

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Speaker 6: really wanted to?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, my dad would bring me to work

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01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and I never liked it

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01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 2: like that. Other kids would like I get to go

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01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 2: to work with my mom or dad, Like I would

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01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 2: do that, Like I got like fifty years of my

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01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 2: life to go to work. Well, why why why do

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01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 2: I want to be here when I'm eight? But in

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01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 2: a pinch I have. I had to bring her to

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks toward the end of the season because I

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Speaker 2: think we had a snow day and she was very good,

1816
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 2: and I asked her, like, was that fun? She's like

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Speaker 2: got a bowl of ice cream out of it. Other

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Speaker 2: than that, wow, And tomorrow is National Fun at Work Day.

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Speaker 2: National Tomorrow is National Fun at Work Day.

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Speaker 6: Yes, wow, the last Friday in January.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea. So anyway, James Rapine and I

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01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 2: you'll like this, Tarran. I've asked the folks at Miami

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Speaker 2: if they'll get us Ron Harper, oh, because he's being

1824
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Speaker 2: honored at their game on Saturday. I believe a five

1825
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 2: time NBA champion Lakers, that's right, and a fun follow

1826
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 2: on Twitter too, Like he'll come at folks. So if

1827
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 2: anybody wants to send tweets to Ron Harper asking him

1828
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 2: to come on the show tomorrow to talk about the

1829
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Speaker 2: Red Hawks. And he's getting an honorary degree at Mallett

1830
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 2: Hall on Saturday. That would be awesome.

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Speaker 6: Son, Dylan, this is phenomenal.

1832
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're talking about him too. So maybe we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I'm not promising, I'm not very hopeful, but we have

1834
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Speaker 2: asked if perhaps, if not, we'll reach out to former

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Speaker 2: New York Nick Derek Harper.

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Speaker 6: I think what Wally's erbiak is doing, you know.

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Speaker 2: Wally's erbiak, this is before you produce. When Charlie Coles

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01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 2: passed away. The only person to talk to that's not fair,

1839
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 2: but like the person to talk to, like the person

1840
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 2: you wanted to hear from most was Wally's Rbiak. And

1841
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 2: I think I think Lindsay Patterson was producing the show

1842
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 2: at the time, and I think she just sent him

1843
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 2: a tweet like, Wally, you want to come on? And

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01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: he was. He you know, you hate it that it

1845
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 2: was those circumstances, but Wally could not have been nicer.

1846
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 2: Came on, talked about his coach, talked about Charlie's impact

1847
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 2: on him, and you know, told stories of playing for

1848
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Speaker 2: him in the ninety nineteen that went to the Sweet sixteen.

1849
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Speaker 2: And that was cool. But it'd be cool to have

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Speaker 2: Ron Harbor on the show We'll See You'll Hear Chad

1851
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,480
Speaker 2: Brendle next on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 9: Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Mis Ripe on BC Sports, finalizing a deal with Joey

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Speaker 2: Votos to join US MLB coverage in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brandelparcadjournal dot com. I'll run this past ja UC

1865
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 2: wins last night. It's been a frustrating season. One of

1866
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,839
Speaker 2: the things that frustrated to me, and maybe you disagree,

1867
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 2: is this team is pretty good defensively.

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Speaker 10: Yes, at times, Okay, I think I think the thing

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01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 10: that's been interesting for me this year is it's much

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Speaker 10: different than we've seen UCB defensively over the past thirty

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01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 10: five years. Like it hit is a lot more. They

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01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,799
Speaker 10: have been great defensively over the years because their team defense,

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01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 10: the communication, the assignment, the scouting report, whatever, has been

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 10: awesome under Mick under Hugs at times, you know, most

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01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 10: of the West is run. The defenses have been really good

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01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 10: this year. It feels like there's more elite individual talent defensively,

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01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 10: but not as much of that cohesion. So that's why

1878
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 10: you see the breakdowns against Arizona State, you know, the

1879
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 10: second half against Arizona it doesn't feel like they're connected

1880
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 10: at times, but there's more individual like Bob. Bob's been

1881
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 10: outstanding defensively. Buck Harris is really good defensively, Dada's really

1882
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 10: good defensively. Like they've got really good individual defenders. It

1883
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 10: feels like, and maybe this is just a nature of

1884
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 10: college basketball in twenty twenty six. These guys haven't played

1885
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 10: together for a long time, so some of that communication

1886
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 10: and the natural like understanding of where your teammate is

1887
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 10: going to be has dipped a little. But the individual

1888
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 10: talent defensively has been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Do they have a prayer on Saturday in Houston.

1890
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 10: No, they had their chance against Houston and they missed it.

1891
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Speaker 10: That's generally how this goes, right, Like when you play

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01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 10: one of these elite teams, and if especially when you

1893
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 10: play him twice, they're not gonna let you get a

1894
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 10: second bite of the apple. Cincinnati was up ten down

1895
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 10: the stretch against Houston and they didn't get across the

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 10: finish line, especially going down there. I don't have a

1897
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 10: lot of faith in them, you know, making this a

1898
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 10: great game down to the wire type situation, because the

1899
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 10: same thing I mean, just don't think they're good enough

1900
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:38,839
Speaker 10: offensively against Houston to sustain that for a second time

1901
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 10: and play like they did back at the beginning of January.

1902
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, stranger things have happened, but that one.

1903
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,839
Speaker 10: Usually you get one shot when you're in a position

1904
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 10: like Cincinnati in the fifties, sixties, in the metrics, you

1905
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 10: get that one shot to take that team down the

1906
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 10: second time around. Usually reality sets back in.

1907
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 2: I fear that was the answer, But I agree when

1908
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 2: you have played twenty one games and like now, you

1909
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 2: know attrition continues to be an issue. Seanabayev, that didn't

1910
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 2: look like an injury that's gonna have him miss just

1911
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 2: a game or two. Just watching him on the bench

1912
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 2: in a boot, needing crutches, and so I'll assume that

1913
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 2: at least in the short term, the fix isn't going

1914
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,520
Speaker 2: to come with, you know, him going through an offensive

1915
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: a period of growth offensively that they can benefit from.

1916
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 2: You've played twenty one games, your offensive issues have been

1917
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 2: well established. You want to go on a run here

1918
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,839
Speaker 2: post Houston because they play some teams that are beatable,

1919
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: including one they had on the ropes in UCF who

1920
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 2: comes here next weekend. For them to go on a run,

1921
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 2: they're going to have to achieve a level of offensive

1922
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 2: efficiency that they haven't yet all season long, in the

1923
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 2: absence of some dude coming in that maybe played for

1924
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls last year or something. How does that happen?

1925
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 10: The problem is what we've talked about for a long

1926
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 10: time with these guards.

1927
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: Ma.

1928
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 10: You know, there are times Gisel James and Dade Thomas,

1929
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 10: you feel like, hey, we had a lot of big

1930
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 10: twelve games with these two, but ultimately they're inefficient players.

1931
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 10: They don't get to the rim, they don't take a

1932
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 10: lot of layups, they don't take a lot of shots

1933
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 10: at the rim, they don't get to the free throw line,

1934
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,600
Speaker 10: and they shoot a lot of long mid range jumpers,

1935
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 10: long twos and like. The analytics have become popular for

1936
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 10: a reason. That reason is because they're usually statistically correct.

1937
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 10: That's how analytics work. When you're not getting to the line,

1938
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 10: when you're not taking a bigger number of shots at

1939
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 10: the rim, and instead you're replacing them with seventeen to

1940
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 10: twenty foot two point attempts, like the odds are eventually

1941
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 10: going to catch up to you. And it feels like

1942
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 10: that's why over the last three years we have not

1943
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 10: seen this team be able to string together a four

1944
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 10: to five game run right where they go four and

1945
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 10: one or you know, five to zero and really gain

1946
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 10: some momentum in the Big twelve. It's a lot of

1947
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 10: play well for two or three games and then dip

1948
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 10: for two or three games, then play well for two

1949
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 10: or three games, and then dip for three or four games.

1950
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 10: And a lot of that is because offensively they're just

1951
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 10: not efficient. The brand of offense is not up to

1952
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 10: par up to snuff in the modern era. They do

1953
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 10: a lot of things that you know, the smart basketball

1954
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 10: minds of twenty twenty six are no longer doing and

1955
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 10: that's not changing this year, and that's going to make

1956
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 10: it hard to get on any sort of extended run

1957
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 10: to make it feel like there is a chance for

1958
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 10: this team to turn a corner.

1959
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: Awesome as always, Man, Thanks so much. Thanks, Well, gotta

1960
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 2: go have a great night. Thanks to Terran for listening. No, well,

1961
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: he listened. Thanks to Terran for producing. Thanks to you

1962
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 2: for listening. We're back tomorrow and what a great ending.

1963
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching as well. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

1964
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 2: Want to make