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Speaker 1: Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Radio No.

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Speaker 2: I talk to people every day, friends and people who

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Speaker 2: call me. I call people back on the phone. And

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, this is probably the most

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Speaker 2: important fight that you can have here in Massachusetts. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to ask you a question, and I'd like you

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Speaker 2: phone calls. By the way, So Paul and Maria and Joe,

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Speaker 2: you're coming up next. Do you think that the legislature

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, the State House of Representatives and the State

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Speaker 2: Senate should be audited by the state auditor? If you

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Speaker 2: answer yes to that question. Do you think that a

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Speaker 2: ballot question that passed last fall by seventy two percent

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Speaker 2: of the voters calling for an audit of the legislature,

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Speaker 2: the State House Representatives, and the State Senate should occur?

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Speaker 2: If you said yes to those two questions, the legislative

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Speaker 2: leadership literally is look at you in the eye and

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Speaker 2: just ignoring you. If you want that audit to take place,

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Speaker 2: this is what you, as an individual need to do.

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Speaker 2: One get in touch with Diana form A dot com,

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Speaker 2: d I A N A f O r m A

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Speaker 2: dot com and see what she is attempting to do.

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Speaker 2: She's trying to put a ballot question on the ballot

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Speaker 2: next year, needs to get signatures for it so that

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Speaker 2: the governor's office and the legislature and other offices would

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Speaker 2: be not exempt from freedom of information acts as they

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Speaker 2: are currently. But but I can even give you something

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Speaker 2: better to simpler to do. All you have to do

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Speaker 2: is when you run into your state rep or your

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Speaker 2: until the audit occurage, you will never vote for them

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Speaker 2: for state legislature legislator again. That will throw the fear

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Speaker 2: of God in all them, all of them, and they

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Speaker 2: will one by one go to a speaker Mariano and

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Speaker 2: the Senate President and say we need to comply with

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Speaker 2: what the people voted for in November of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: it's critical, and I think that you can sit there

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Speaker 2: as an armchair quarterback, as my friend Pete from West

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Speaker 2: Roxbury did, and suggest to Diana Desauglia that she give

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Speaker 2: up her office as her position a state auditor, not

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Speaker 2: run for reelection, and go off in some don quixote,

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Speaker 2: sub quixotic effort to run against the attorney General. Let's

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Speaker 2: be practical, folks. I had a couple of conversations today

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Speaker 2: with people who I think are not practical. I agree

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Speaker 2: with Pete, west Roxbury has changed. Okay, that's fine. There's

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of things that have happened over there,

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Speaker 2: none of which have been particularly good for west Roxbury.

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Speaker 2: So we'll save all that for another night. I want

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Speaker 2: to hear your outrage because this is outrageous. Seventy two

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Speaker 2: percent of the people in Massachusetts voted for something and

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Speaker 2: they're being ignored. Maria in Rockland, Maria, you were next

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Speaker 2: on nightside. Go right ahead, you have the microphone. Let's

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Speaker 3: Hi, Dan, thanks for taking my call. And I want

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Speaker 3: to thank mister Saglio for fighting the good fight.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I joined.

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Speaker 3: I was on my way home and I got into

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Speaker 3: the middle of your conversation, and the first thought that

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Speaker 3: struck me was that we have a law that was passed,

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Speaker 3: like you said, by seventy two percent of the people.

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Speaker 3: They're not following the law, and didn't a group of

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Speaker 3: people from our government just protest. No kings on the

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Speaker 2: Oh, very good point, Very good points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't and I don't. I don't subscribe to

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Speaker 3: any party. I'm an independent and they and I find

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Speaker 3: it so ironic and infuriating that they will do as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we need Yeah, we have a prince and a princess.

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Speaker 2: We have a prince and a princess of the state

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Speaker 2: legislature here, and maybe there should be no there should

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Speaker 2: be a no prince and no princess rally as well. Look,

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Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is there's a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: and I continue to say this to people, when you

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Speaker 2: vote in a presidential election in Massachusetts, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: If you want to vote for a Republican, go run ahead,

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. It's it's preordained. It's preordained. But the elections

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Speaker 2: the guts and the gumption to say to them, hey,

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Speaker 2: for anyone else, doesn't matter. That will throw the fear

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Speaker 2: you know, ninety eight percent opportunity to be re elected.

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Speaker 3: Dramatically, exactly, and I will I hope the governor is

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Speaker 3: If if they're going to pull this stuff, they're going

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Speaker 2: Well that's exactly the situation that they find themselves in

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Speaker 2: at this moment. So Maria, as always, I thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your for your loyalty to this program.

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Speaker 2: And and again, this is a program. We can sit

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Speaker 2: here and talk about things that don't matter, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: we do, but this is something that really does matter

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Speaker 2: and people should be concerned about it. So thanks, thanks

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Speaker 2: for your voice, and get to your state rep Use

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Speaker 2: state senator if you get a chance to tell it

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Speaker 2: to them looking looking in the eye, it's even more

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Speaker 2: effective but a phone call will help as well, and

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Speaker 2: just say, hey, you think that I'm going to ever

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Speaker 2: vote for you again? This is a litmus test. You

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Speaker 2: you you you you. You were going against the way

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Speaker 2: the people in Massachusetts asked you to vote and you

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Speaker 2: your loyalty is to the speaker, your loyalty is to

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Speaker 2: the Senate President. Well, my loyalty is to anyone who

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Speaker 2: runs against you. That's what they feel. Thanks Maria, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. Good night night. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: that way to get in touch with Diana Desaglio is

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Speaker 2: Diana d I A N A f O r M

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Speaker 2: A dot com and you can get uh petitions if

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Speaker 2: you'd like to be a signature gatherer. It's pretty simple

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Speaker 2: and it gets you involved in politics. Just the wake

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Speaker 2: up folks. You know they're doing whatever they want irrespective

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Speaker 2: of how you feel. And if you need proof of it,

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Speaker 2: just listen to that last hour six one, seven, two, five,

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Speaker 2: I feel strongly about this. I will get to Joe's next.

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Speaker 2: Joe and Cambridge. You are coming up next, Paul in Plymouth,

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Speaker 2: Joe and Belmont, and I got room for you at

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Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty and

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Speaker 2: to sleep on this one. Coming back on night Side.

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Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go, my friend Joe and Cambridge.

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Speaker 2: Joe your next Nightside. Appreciate your patience, right ahead, Joe.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Dan, thank you for taking my call. And uh,

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Speaker 5: by the way, it was worth our way to get

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Speaker 5: on to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you, I wish that I could get

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Speaker 2: you to to the auditor, but again, I just take

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Speaker 2: them as they call in, so you'll get to her promise.

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Speaker 5: I understand. And yeah, I'm I'm sorry I missed her

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Speaker 5: to thank her in person, but I hope she's listening.

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Speaker 5: And I just want to say that, you know me, Dan,

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Speaker 5: I'm independent, unrolled, but I'm I'm you know, right leaning conservative,

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Speaker 5: and you know I have my own personal battles with

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Speaker 5: Democrats these days, but I have to say the Madam otitor,

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Speaker 5: this is a breath of fresh air and I'm behind

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Speaker 5: her one. I hope she's listening. I voted for this,

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Speaker 5: I'm supporting her one hundred percent on this. I'm behind

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Speaker 5: her on this new built uh, this new ballot voting

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Speaker 5: she's presenting. I will do everything in my power to

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Speaker 5: try and get as many signatures for her. I will

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Speaker 5: rally behind it. I am a strong believer in the

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Speaker 5: First Amendment and you know, for your requests especially, and

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Speaker 5: I'm absolutely incensed, furious at what is going on at

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Speaker 5: the State House.

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Speaker 6: You know, your last.

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Speaker 5: Caller, you know, called it out appropriately, the irony of

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Speaker 5: the no King's rally.

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Speaker 7: This we have.

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Speaker 5: We have a king sitting in the Senate and in

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Speaker 5: the Queen sitting in the corner of state Governor's office

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Speaker 5: that's supporting them. I'm sure as far as the Attorney General,

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Speaker 5: absolutely abhorrent. I'd never support her from day one. I

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Speaker 5: wanted to see her out of this office. And it

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Speaker 5: infuriates me even more. Does She announced today that she's

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Speaker 5: running again for re election and she's running on a

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: This this state is a disaster. This state is a disaster.

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Speaker 5: It is, in my opinion, one of the most corrupt

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Speaker 5: states in the Union. What they're doing in the Statehouse

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Speaker 5: right now. We voted for this, We being the voters

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Speaker 5: stonewalling is the Attorney General is you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: complicit in this and helping them in stonewalling and not

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Speaker 5: assisting you know, the state Auditor's office. You know, it

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Speaker 5: is absolutely feuiity and people do need to call their representatives.

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Speaker 5: It's surprising to me that seventy two of the voters

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Speaker 5: voted for this in this state and the audacity of

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Speaker 5: these people in this legislature to thumb their news and

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Speaker 5: put it up politely. You know, how do they expect like, here's.

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Speaker 2: The dirty little secret. Okay, here's the dirty little secret.

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to say it as clearly as I can.

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Speaker 2: There are forty state senators. All Karen Spilka needs to

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Speaker 2: do is to win re election. Uh in in what

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Speaker 2: is what works out to be about two in a

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Speaker 2: the math of Carlwaulta, Massachusetts Mariano has has a smaller fraction.

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Speaker 2: His representative district in Brockton is one over one hundred

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Speaker 2: maalth of Massachusetts. So they get re elected. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: they have all of these minions. It's the way the

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Speaker 2: systems worked. It's worked since since I was a young

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Speaker 2: reporter covering people like Tommy McGee from Lynn when he

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Speaker 2: You know, Charlie Flaherty, George Caverian, you know Dave Bartley.

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Speaker 2: It's the way the system works. It's a it's a

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Speaker 2: you know you you when you come in as a

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Speaker 2: new legislator, you declare your fealty to whoever's the head

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Speaker 2: of your party. And that's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: But but if if all of a sudden, a bunch

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Speaker 2: of the state reps who who are who are in

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Speaker 2: and the Speaker and the Senate President in their districts

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Speaker 2: warmly powerful speaker will come all from Massachusetts and my district,

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Speaker 2: I will make sure it is the most you know,

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Speaker 2: it gets everything it needs. Same way for the Senate President.

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Speaker 2: So most people who live in Brockton, or most people

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Speaker 2: who live in Natick or Asland where Spokens district is,

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Speaker 2: they're all there clapping because all we're gonna get more.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get more, We're gonna get more. They're not

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Speaker 2: gonna really get more, but they're gonna they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: It's this is all stuff that let's open it up.

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Speaker 2: Let's open it up. It's as simple as that. Transparency.

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Speaker 2: No kings, no queens, no princess, no princesses. No one

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Speaker 7: In massachuont nobody, nobody.

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Speaker 5: And I would have one request of the of the

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Speaker 2: I have any doubt in your mind about that. Having

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Speaker 5: YEP, Thank you, Dan, and thank you Madame Dissaved New York.

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Speaker 2: Thank Joe, appreciate the call. We're coming right back on

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: We're going right back to the phones. Let me we're

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Speaker 2: Paul and Plymouth really appreciate your patients as well. You've

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, Paul, no problem.

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Speaker 9: Dan.

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Speaker 10: I was wondering about the possibility of initiating a on

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Speaker 9: Type of thing where you know, we bring that up

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Speaker 2: My opinion, and I think that's a good suggestion. But

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Speaker 2: In three hundred and fifty one cities and towns in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: the voters have already spoken. In twenty twenty four, there

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Speaker 2: It's really a decision by the Speaker and the Senate President,

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Speaker 7: I kind of believe that the arrogance on their pot

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Speaker 2: Well, it is when you have a one party state.

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Speaker 7: That's what I Yeah, go ahead, Oh hey, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that. Well, I appreciate that very much.

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Speaker 2: He went to the legislature and I must say, with

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Speaker 2: the help of Karen Spilker, this was seventeen eighteen years ago,

433
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Speaker 2: we changed the law in Massachusetts. So now the burden

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Speaker 2: of proof is on the life insurance company to prove

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Speaker 2: that there was some fraud involved. And that young husband,

436
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Speaker 2: who at that time had at a daughter who was

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Speaker 2: about a year old. She's now probably close to twenty.

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Speaker 2: He got the five hundred thousand dollars life insurance because

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Speaker 2: of Nightside. And I remember that when I signed my

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Speaker 2: first contract with the then general manager, initially there was

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Speaker 2: some insurance. There was some advertising that was pulled from

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Speaker 2: the station. He says, how much money are going to

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Speaker 2: cost me today? And I said to him, I said,

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Speaker 2: we're doing the right thing. And eventually, eventually SBLI Bob

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Speaker 2: Sheridan came around. He's a hero in my book because

446
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Speaker 2: he's straightened out the law in Massachusetts. When he went

447
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Speaker 2: up to the Sandels and says, change this law. And

448
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Speaker 2: I'm the head of SBLI in Massachusetts, there was a

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Speaker 2: tremendous victory. So I love doing this stuff. This is

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Speaker 2: what I live for. To be really honest with you,

451
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Speaker 2: I like doing the program because I can help people.

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Speaker 2: I had a woman called me the other day with

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Speaker 2: a problem dealing with her her cable television bill. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to get into specifics, but I was able

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Speaker 2: to solve her problem. I can't solve everyone's problem, but

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Speaker 2: I have, you know, some contacts, and I can help people.

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Speaker 2: I like doing that. I don't want to go up

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Speaker 2: and run for some stupid office that that I no.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy with what I'm doing. But thank you, Paul

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Speaker 2: for the honor of the mention. And I appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: Oh no problem, Dan, Well keep up the good work.

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Speaker 2: I promise, I will. I promise, I will. Okay, thank you,

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Speaker 2: let me get let me gonna go next. I got

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Speaker 2: Joe and Belmont. Joe, I'm gonna get you in here

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Speaker 2: before the break. Go right ahead, Joe.

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Speaker 8: It is better to lay the candle than the curse

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Speaker 8: of the darkness.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 8: I'm ticked off, good Dan. I want your help. I

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Speaker 8: want to organize a rally like last Saturday to impeach

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Speaker 8: governor Heally.

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Speaker 2: I'm not into Joe. I'm not interested in impeaching anyone.

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Speaker 8: Uh yeah, well okay.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not. I'm just telling you the truth. You could.

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Speaker 2: You can organize your rally. You could organize your rally.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm honest, Joe. I'm not here to impede

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Speaker 2: Jenny One. I'm not here. I'm simply telling you that

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Speaker 2: I know what voters voted for in Massachusetts and their

479
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Speaker 2: will should be recognized. I'm not here in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form as a partisan or I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 2: I have no interest in anything like that. If you

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Speaker 2: want to do it, I say go ahead. I mean you,

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Speaker 2: this a free country.

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Speaker 8: You know what Mekle said, the ruler of Greece in

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Speaker 8: four point fifty BC. I wasn't alive and interest in politics.

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Speaker 8: Politics will take an interest in you.

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Speaker 2: That's a good line. I like that absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Yea.

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Speaker 2: And Lord Acton said power corrupts and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: That was a head note that federal Judge Mark Wolfe

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Speaker 2: was very very fond of, and I'm very fond of him.

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Speaker 8: And the state legislators in the state representatives and senators

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Speaker 8: and the governor a stab and the people in the

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Speaker 8: back and the Globe and the Herald not doing anything

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Speaker 8: about it. They should be writing about it every day.

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Speaker 2: No, I'll tell you this, No, the hell world has

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Speaker 2: written about it. The Globe tends tends not to take

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Speaker 2: take take on the power elite here in Massachusetts. They

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Speaker 2: If the Globe were to do an editorial on this,

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Speaker 2: I would commend the Globe fully. But the Herald, Joe

501
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Speaker 2: Dranell at the Herald, he's a pain in this. He's

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Speaker 2: a pain in the neck of a lot of the

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Speaker 2: legislators up there on Beacon Hill, trust me, and they

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Speaker 2: should be. We're a two newspaper town. We should have

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Speaker 2: two different points of view. But let me know about

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Speaker 2: your rally and uh and uh and and you can

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Speaker 2: you can publicize it, okay or not your rally or

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Speaker 2: your f well, yeah, you rally to impeach.

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Speaker 8: Okay, always a pleasure, Dan, beg you Joe.

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Speaker 2: Talk soon, have a great night.

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Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna wrap this up on the other side,

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Speaker 2: Ken and Walton, Bob and Medford if any of you

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Speaker 2: want to get final word in real quickly, I'm changing

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Speaker 2: topics at eleven after the eleven o'clock news six one seven, six,

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Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one, ten thirty, we'll be right

517
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Speaker 2: back on night side.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the phones, would go, We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: next to Bob in Midford. Bob, I got you and

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Speaker 2: the one more at least, so you go right ahead, Bob.

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Speaker 6: All right, Hi everybody, Uh listen, we got a sixty

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Speaker 6: billion dollar budget in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Sixty two to be exactly, go right ahead.

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Speaker 6: All right, I stand corrected, Daniel. Great, we can't follow

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Speaker 6: the money. They made it so that we can't follow

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Speaker 6: the money. Where is the money going? They won't tell us.

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Speaker 6: Talk about taxation without representation?

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 11: Sure does that bring to mind, King Yep.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a familiar theme. Yes.

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Speaker 6: Now we're forty percent of the people. Thirty eight to

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Speaker 6: forty percent of the people in Massachusetts I believe voted

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Speaker 6: Republican and we do not have one representative in Washington.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first of all, that that's an overstatement. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump got about I think thirty nine percent of the vote,

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Speaker 2: so you know, it wasn't forty eight. It was you know,

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Speaker 2: Trump had like thirty nine percent of the vote in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 6: Thirty nine. But still we should at least have like

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Speaker 6: somebody representing us out of thirty nine percent. Didn't they

541
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Speaker 6: it would like be one should they all be Democrat?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the one of the arguments in that

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Speaker 2: is that when you have such a weak Republican party

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Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, unless a good percentage of that thirty nine

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Speaker 2: percent is living in one congressional district, I mean that

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Speaker 2: that vote is spread across the states. So the Republicans lose,

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Speaker 2: you know, by sixty forty sixty two, thirty eight. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's that's the reality. Oh, I mean it's like, you.

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Speaker 11: Know, that's that might be a jerryman doing things another night,

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Speaker 11: but yeah, the fact is that you can't borrow the money.

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Speaker 11: It's like, is this not a law that we passed

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Speaker 11: that are they above this law that they you know, what.

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Speaker 2: They're doing is that they're arguing some you know claim.

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Speaker 2: Well this is this would infringe upon the separation of powers. Well,

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Speaker 2: obviously it wouldn't infringe upon the separation of powers because

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00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: the auditor's purpose is to audit and there was a

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Speaker 2: law passed by voters ballot question, an initiative petition by

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Speaker 2: seventy two that she has the authority to audit the

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Speaker 2: state legislature. End of story.

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Speaker 6: And the Attorney General is not gonna she will.

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Speaker 2: She's performing No, she is a roadblock to the to

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Speaker 2: the state auditor. According to the state auditor, welcome to Massachusetts, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Corruption corrupts that absolute, corruption corrupts absolutely.

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Speaker 6: This is a law. Nobody's running against us.

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Speaker 8: She's not enforced in law.

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Speaker 6: This is outrageous. This is our money that this man.

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Speaker 2: And then call your state rep. Call your state rep tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: call your state rep, your state center tomorrow, and just

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Speaker 2: warm them done.

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Speaker 6: They're just like they don't care. They really don't care.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they'll care what they hear from enough constituents, they'll

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Speaker 2: care greatly. Trust me. Okay, hey, Bob, I gotta run here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. For your passion we need in

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Speaker 2: this state. Well be part of the solution. And by

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00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: by being part of the solution, pick up the phone

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Speaker 2: among call you state Rep. And call you say Senator.

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Speaker 2: Until this autit occurs, you'll never have my vote again,

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Speaker 2: and I will vote for whoever's running against.

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Speaker 6: You dixty billion dollars. Do you think there's anything that

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Speaker 6: they want to hide?

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Speaker 2: You got it? I'm with you totally. Thank you, Bob,

582
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Speaker 2: appreciate your call. Let me go to Ken and wal

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Speaker 2: Damn Ken, you're gonna wrap the hour for us, Go

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Speaker 2: right ahead, Ken.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think also the audit doesn't have any teeth, right,

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Speaker 12: it would just expose what's going on. I can't demand

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Speaker 12: the state legislature or do anything, so I don't. I

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Speaker 12: don't see how it's a violation of powers. But let's

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Speaker 12: get it than the court, right.

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Speaker 13: And Yeah, the other I wanted to poke a little

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Speaker 13: bit at how maybe some of us Democrats think our

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Speaker 13: state legislators are is acting how we complain about the

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Speaker 13: Trump administration with the no Kings and I kind of

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Speaker 13: I kind of have always thought of this as kind

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Speaker 13: of the Epstein files.

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Speaker 4: Right now that you know the Republicans know what's in them.

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Speaker 4: They don't want anyone to see them. In the state

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Speaker 4: legislature in Massachusetts, it is like the same thing.

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Speaker 14: But it sounded like a previous caller had suggested to

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Speaker 14: the Madame Monitor that she start going into the personal files.

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Speaker 4: Maybe of some of the people who opposed you know,

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Speaker 4: what she's doing.

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Speaker 2: And you heard my I think you heard my reaction

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Speaker 2: to that.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean what I heard was that she

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Speaker 4: couldn't do it. And what I was hoping to hear

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Speaker 4: is that even if she could, she wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's not her job. She just not that's

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Speaker 2: not her job. Yeah. Well, I mean that, And I'm

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Speaker 2: with you totally, ken And I said that that I

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00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: interrupted the caller, and then she jumped on. She has

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Speaker 2: no interest in doing that. She just wants to do

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Speaker 2: her job, that's all. And she's a Democrat, she's a

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Speaker 2: progressive Democrat.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I you know, I voted I thought

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Speaker 4: to me she she kind of sounded like an opportunist

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Speaker 4: when she was running. No, I voted against her in

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Speaker 4: the primary. I don't remember who I voted for in

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Speaker 4: the general election. I am so she has proved me

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Speaker 4: so long I mean, I just think she's totally on

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Speaker 4: the side of the people. And I'm a big fan.

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Speaker 2: And she she had she had a rough time. She

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Speaker 2: worked in the legislature, and she had a rough time, uh,

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Speaker 2: dealing with some of those members of the great in

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Speaker 2: general Court, if you get my drift. And then when

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Speaker 2: she was elected, she was looked down upon. And and

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Speaker 2: then when she was elected to the House and then

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Speaker 2: to the Senate, she was always an outsider. Uh. And

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Speaker 2: they she basically forged her will was forged uh in

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Speaker 2: in in a in a in a factory of steely

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00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: eyed looks and looks of disdain. She was not respected,

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00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: and now they're fearful of her. Simple So.

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Speaker 4: You know, I know it's about what she's doing now.

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Speaker 4: And maybe twenty thirty two, twenty thirty six, I hope

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Speaker 4: we live long enough to see her in the Governor's

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Speaker 4: office someday.

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Speaker 2: It would be great. You and I would join you

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Speaker 2: and I would vote the same on that one. Jan

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Speaker 2: I love your calls, man. I wish you called earlier,

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00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: but I'm up against the eleven and.

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Speaker 4: We are going to ask with Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: My pleasure, min Thank you, thank you, and you and

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00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: I are not necessarily an agreement and everything. It doesn't matter,

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00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: but we're both civil with each other, and that's what

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Speaker 2: this show's all about. Thanks again, appreciate it. We will

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Speaker 2: be back right after the eleven and I want to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: And I don't care who you give credit to. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter to me or what you give credit to.

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Speaker 2: Gas prices are down and that's good for all of us.

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Speaker 2: Can we at least recognize that back on Night's side

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Speaker 2: after the eleven o'clock news