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Speaker 1: Now I don't want to play much of it because

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Speaker 1: But if you listen to the words, just the content,

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Speaker 2: And it was our judgment, after six weeks, going on

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Speaker 1: In other words, what he's saying is Trump told them,

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Speaker 4: Here's the issue that we're not really talking about. The

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Joe, you make a lot of points. Look,

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Speaker 1: to go back to your initial point. You're completely right

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Speaker 1: Joe in a nutshell, I hear you, and I feel

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for that call. Six one seven

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Speaker 1: they use the excuse of the filibuster whenever Trump. For example,

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Speaker 1: We can't do it. Why not the filibuster? We just

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Speaker 1: can't get sixty votes. The Democrats, they'll never go for it.

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Speaker 4: See that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, John Thune is a pure swamp creature,

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Speaker 1: And who's standing up? Notice who? Now he stands up

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Speaker 1: to Trump? When Trump says, look, guys, let's end this

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Speaker 1: filibuster and let's pass what I campaigned on. Suddenly, Oh no,

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Speaker 1: to have Republicans on the record national voter ID law

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Speaker 1: let's see where Republicans really stand. Six one seven two, six,

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Speaker 1: should we end the filibuster? Trump says, yes, Honestly, I've

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats have caved. Six one seven two six

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Speaker 3: Welcome good morning, Jeff. I have one question. Can the

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Speaker 3: Republicans end the filibuster, the past the laws they need

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Speaker 3: to save America, then also pass the law making the

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Speaker 3: filibuster permanent?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Well, you can't make the filibuster permanent. I mean they

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Speaker 1: we passed trump campaign platform, right, we passed all of

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Speaker 1: back to sixty votes. They could do that, but the

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Speaker 1: Democrats would then come back and say, well the stone

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Speaker 1: was broken. You know. So you guys, you know, you

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Speaker 1: invote the nuclear option, you took it from sixty to

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Speaker 1: now we're going to take it back to fifty one.

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Speaker 1: in other words, you know, it's like if they do

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Speaker 1: once they come back, they're going to end and they're

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Speaker 1: come back, My hope in prayer, honestly is that they

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Speaker 1: end the filibuster. Pass voting reform the most of all

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Speaker 1: But look, just for the record, fun has said no.

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Speaker 1: Other Republicans in the Senate, you know, Lisa Murkowski has

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Speaker 1: So they don't have the votes right now. Trump is

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Speaker 1: they do not have fifty one votes to end the filibuster. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Michelle in Weymouth. Thanks for holding Michelle,

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Speaker 1: and welcome.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Hi Jess. It's Rochelle.

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Speaker 1: Rochelle. I'm so you see what I gotta deal with here.

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Speaker 1: Look at this Rachelle, and they have Michelle up on

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Speaker 1: the board. That's just anyway. It's but you know, according

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Speaker 1: to Mike, I'm the bad guy. According to Mike, I'm

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Speaker 1: the I'm the one who's unprofessional. All right, But go ahead, Rochelle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I agree with Trump. I if we could get

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Speaker 5: rid of the filibuster, I think that'd be great. But

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Speaker 5: you know, we have rhinos and that's a reality that

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Speaker 5: we're dealing with right now. I have two alternatives for

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Speaker 5: you have to stand there you have to like not

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Speaker 5: they couldn't do to this country what they just did.

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Speaker 5: If they had to do that, you know that we

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Speaker 1: And then my.

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Speaker 5: Second alternative would be, do you know, invoke the nuclear option,

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Speaker 5: do away with it temporarily, as the Democrats did in

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Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. Just do away with it temporarily for the

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Speaker 5: sole purpose of electoral reforms such as you know, voter

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Speaker 5: id make you know, no more voter season, no more

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Speaker 5: electoral season, bring it back to one election day.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one day voting, sorry, Rachelle. Another thing Trump

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Speaker 1: is pushing is one day voting. You're right, not this.

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Speaker 1: You know they vote for sixty days, you know, early

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Speaker 1: voting before the election, before election day, Rochelle. But just

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Speaker 1: to go back to your first point, so you're saying,

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Speaker 1: And basically, okay, you're gonna shut the government down, Fine,

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Speaker 1: no food. I guess we'll give them a bathroom break.

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Speaker 1: But that's about it. And until you guys hash out

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Speaker 5: Stand there and make an endless speech for like twenty

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Speaker 5: How long would they be able to keep that up?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, no food and no water, Michelle,

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Speaker 1: I'm done in twenty four hours. I'm just speaking for

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Speaker 1: me now. I don't know people. I mean, could you

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I agree, I'm just you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: no bathroom break, Well then you really got him by

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I still kind of stand up and

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Speaker 1: Know that, No, I'm with you. In other words, what

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Speaker 1: they typically do when they do a filibuster. You know,

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Speaker 1: they'll just speak and speak and speak. But even then,

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Speaker 1: they can eat, they can drink water, they can temporarily

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Speaker 1: pass the baton off to another senator,