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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, I truly appreciate it. Yeah, there's yet

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Speaker 1: beaten switched development near the village is a daybreak. It

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Speaker 1: Hall to drop support for any deal in your neighborhood

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Speaker 1: com yeap Elections have consequences doing the same thing over

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Speaker 1: I feel like I just stuck my toe in it.

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Speaker 1: USA's premium foam the only way to go. It's the

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Speaker 1: highest forty one fifty about krcdtalk station. Happy Friday Eve.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going to be here to marro Joe

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Speaker 1: Strecker of course, does a lot of the stack of

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Speaker 1: stupid stories Friday morning to deal a lot of crazy

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Speaker 1: people who are performing criminal acts naked as this tradition,

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Speaker 1: and we have quite a few of those here this morning. However,

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Speaker 1: in honor of iHeart media aviation expert Jay Ratliffe, I

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Speaker 1: put one on the top. This guy is worthy of

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Speaker 1: the award. A man described as a British businessman, Solomon

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Speaker 1: if a car anyway, Salomon thirty seven years old, traveling

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Speaker 1: first class from London Heathrow Heathrow to Lore with with

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Speaker 1: his three children and one of his wives. We go

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Speaker 1: back to February of twenty twenty three when this incident happened.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he was drinking champagne and he also got up

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Speaker 1: They told him to return to his seat. The crew

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Speaker 1: defendant became irate. This, according to the court, defendant became

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Speaker 1: irate started a film cabin crew with his phone, telling them,

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Speaker 5: Word, Keep your stupid mouth shut.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, Jay, it gets worse. So of course the staff,

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Speaker 1: he told him to sit down. Court to the court documents,

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Speaker 1: as well as yes, there are video footage, there is

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Speaker 1: video footage of this ific. Car guy started screaming abusive

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Speaker 1: Angie Walsh, telling Walsh Walsh rather that she would be

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Speaker 1: dragged from her hotel room and in his words, gang

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Speaker 6: Keep your stupid mouth shut.

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Speaker 1: And in addition to that, he threatened to blow up

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Speaker 1: the destination the captain even considered diverting the flight to

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Speaker 1: Turkey because this became so volatile. Ms Walsh, who was

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Speaker 1: some significant emotional problems with that and she apparently had

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Speaker 1: to take fourteen months off in spite of the fact.

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Speaker 1: He said, he oh, I'm strong, I'm brave, happy stewardess

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Speaker 1: So psychological impact. So this clown pleaded guilty to threats

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Speaker 1: to kill and racially aggravated harassment in court, with the

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Speaker 1: for fifteen other offenses, including common assault and drunken driving.

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Speaker 1: So in August of this year, the court sentenced him

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Speaker 1: one of the MPs, a guy elected a capacity named

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Speaker 1: Chris Philip. He referred the case to the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: on what is called the United Kingdom's unduly lenient sentencing scheme.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we need one of these here. At the time

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Speaker 1: one of these guys, two wives posted a message pleading

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Speaker 1: to well cut her husband a break. Mental health is

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Speaker 1: not a joke. Before judging, try to understanding, be kind,

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Speaker 1: be kind of the guy who threatened to have this

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Speaker 1: woman gang raped and burn a hotel down. Anyway. Following

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Speaker 1: the review the Court of Appeals after it was referred

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Speaker 1: over to this special you didn't sentence him to enough

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Speaker 1: time court, they increase this jail time to four years

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Speaker 1: and three months, with the Solicitor General saying it better

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Speaker 1: reflected the gravity and sustained nature of his threats and

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Speaker 1: the lasting harm it caused. Walsh, Nice job.

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Speaker 7: Perios, the biggest douche of the universe, in all the galaxies,

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Speaker 7: There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached the top,

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Speaker 7: the pinnacle of doue them. Good going, Douce, Your.

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Speaker 1: Dreams have come true, while his wives breakout in the

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Speaker 1: chorus of stand by your man, or in their case,

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Speaker 1: stand by our man. Five forty five fifty five KRC

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Speaker 1: I got a couple more stack of stupid stories of callers.

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Speaker 1: Hold on a moment here prioritization, especially since I'm now

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Speaker 1: in full vacation mode, and notwithstanding in the fact that

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Speaker 1: I have a few hours ahead of me on the

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Speaker 1: morning show. Hope you forgive me for that, trying to

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of fun, getting that that four

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Speaker 1: day weekend mode as a fast approach to Thanksgiving, one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite, my favorite holiday. And we got a

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Speaker 1: man left bleeding and screaming in the street. This after

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Speaker 1: his jealous mistress sliced off his penis while they were

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Speaker 1: having sex. Dow, what the hell, following which the woman

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Speaker 1: said she was satisfied and wanted to teach him a lesson, Windy.

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Speaker 1: I know these are poor relationship choices, much like that

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Speaker 1: last one. Indeed, Windy Cynthia, who is twenty eight, confessed

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Speaker 1: to cutting off her married lover, a guy named Carcelon

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Speaker 1: who Tommy's genitals, in a fit of jealousy. This is

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Speaker 1: in Indonesia. A couple began dating in early twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Carsilian married another woman late twenty nineteen. Here's the order

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Speaker 1: of things, you see, and he continued to affare with

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Speaker 1: this Windy woman who knew about the marriage. The guy

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Speaker 1: said he finally he financially supported Wendy, giving her some

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Speaker 1: rupees every month, but when the payments started to dwindle

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Speaker 1: while the guy bought a new motorcycle for his legal wife.

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Speaker 1: This windy woman allegedly plotted the attack jealous after the

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Speaker 1: legal wife posted about the new motorcycle on social media.

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Speaker 1: Lured Carsilian to a secluded field in Bandar Lumpung, Sumatra,

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Speaker 1: October nineteenth. She allegedly used a penknife from her bag

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Speaker 1: to cut off his well apparently very alert penis while

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Speaker 1: they were having sex.

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Speaker 5: Phrasing.

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Speaker 1: He has then said to have fled naked into the

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Speaker 1: city streets, bleeding and screaming. Locals helped him out took

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Speaker 1: him to a hospital. Surgeon's managed to reattach his unit.

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Speaker 1: Wendy allegedly threw the penknife away went home before police

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Speaker 1: showed up and arrested her. Later, when the confessor the

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Speaker 1: crime at a press conference, she said quote, I felt

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Speaker 1: a little regret for what I did, but mostly satisfaction.

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Speaker 1: I'm finally satisfied. She accused them of cheating on both

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Speaker 1: her and his wife with other women and which caused

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Speaker 1: her heartbreaking anger. She went on to say she did

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Speaker 1: it to teach him a lesson, adding our relationship was

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Speaker 1: like husband and wife, but he kept lying and cheating

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Speaker 1: and I was angry disappointed. Yeah, you walked into it,

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Speaker 1: just walk away. Indeed, here's a quick one from Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 1: Rest warrant been issued for a man who was allegedly

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Speaker 1: sexually gratifying himself on a parking lot of a Baton

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Speaker 1: Rouge store. Warret says fortys I know got in a

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Speaker 1: penalty box. Joe forty three year old Kevin Mormon sitting

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Speaker 1: naked in his truck outside the Baby Gap on Corporate Boulevard,

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Speaker 1: Please said Mormons.

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Speaker 8: Yes, what hell?

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Speaker 1: He stared at a woman while committing this indecent act.

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Speaker 1: The woman ran back inside of the store, caught the

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Speaker 1: truck's license plate before it left. He was booked on

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Speaker 1: a felony obscenity charge. Of course he was. And finally,

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Speaker 1: before I get to Pat Douglas County Sheriff's office asking

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Speaker 1: for public selp to find out more about a naked

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Speaker 1: guy that was taken into a custody accord to the

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Speaker 1: police Department from Omaha's report, neighbors reporting a naked guy

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Speaker 1: roaming in the area of one hundred and forty streets

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty fourth and Ida knocking on doors

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Speaker 1: debut he's able to find a guy, calling him uncooperative.

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Speaker 1: They used the fingerprints kinda to identify him. He was

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Speaker 1: taken a local hospital for evaluation. Corner to the post,

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Speaker 1: there is no ongoing threat to the public. They want

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Speaker 1: to know if you encountered a naked guy to please

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Speaker 1: let them know about it. Apparently naked guy showing up

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Speaker 1: in a lot of places in Omaha, Nebraska. Pat, let's do

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Speaker 1: what Pat's got this morning. Pat, thanks for indulging me

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Speaker 1: on that. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: Oh, Brian, that's enough. I gotta tell you when I

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Speaker 9: heard about Caloun Street, I lived right next door to

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Speaker 9: the Saint George's School, and I mean we walked everywhere,

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Speaker 9: and we all had.

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Speaker 10: A b cop.

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Speaker 9: The guy that would walk the neighborhood his name was Tom,

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Speaker 9: and I invited him even to my wedding Wow and

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Speaker 9: as we you know, as kids, my husband and I

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Speaker 9: we walked everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Nobody had cars, of course, and.

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Speaker 1: Tat wait a second, hold on, the world's a completely

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Speaker 1: different place. I used to walk with my sister down

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Speaker 1: Devil's Backbone. People know about Devil's Backbone back when I

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Speaker 1: mean there are no sidewalks, know nothing of Whiney Road.

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Speaker 1: Where people sped a mile and a half to two

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Speaker 1: miles to walk down to the King quick. You think

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Speaker 1: some parents will let their eight, you know, six seven

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Speaker 1: year old kid do that. Maybe I was even younger.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we all recognize the world's a much more

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Speaker 1: dangerous place than it used to be.

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Speaker 9: But I just it just blows my mind. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I worked at Good sam after school part time and

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Speaker 9: we would walk down Clifton Avenue from Hughes and Yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's just a shame that the neighborhood is this literally

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Speaker 9: calm to pop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame that parents don't care about where

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Speaker 1: their children are. It's a shame that children we are

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Speaker 1: disobedient to have no morals and ethics. It's a compound problem.

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Speaker 1: It keeps sending growing more and more each year, and

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Speaker 1: I look to the generation above to blame. A kid

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Speaker 1: needs a structured environment and responsibility needs to be taught

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Speaker 1: those specific things, and there's got to be some accountability

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Speaker 1: for what they do. And if you're not providing that foundation,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have unruly kids. A lot of people kicked

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Speaker 1: up and put their feet up and ignored the idea

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Speaker 1: of parenting of what goes along with it and allow

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Speaker 1: these children to run am up and become well moral less.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of them, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods you used to be able to walk in are

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Speaker 1: a lot more dangerous than they used to be. The

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Speaker 1: world is an ever changing place, so I'm not quite

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Speaker 1: sure where you're going with this, pat, unless you've got

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Speaker 1: a suggestion for how to properly engage in law enforcement. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's a shame. Five fifty six

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Speaker 1: Thursday with Dave had Or coming up the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the next hour. More to talk about between now and then.

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Speaker 1: I certainly would love to hear from you. I've got

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Speaker 1: a comment, feel free to call so I like to

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Speaker 1: call it, and a reminder. I will be off tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and Monday, looking forward to a four day weekend. Exhale

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Speaker 1: will lax certainly sleep in tomorrow. Gary Jeff Walker is

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Speaker 1: going to take over the helm, and I know you're

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Speaker 1: in good hands with Gary Jeff Dan Carroll and thanks

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Speaker 1: to him and Gary Jeff Dan Carroll covering for me

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Speaker 1: on Monday. I'll be back on Tuesday, hopefully refreshed. Five

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Speaker 1: will remind you comeing to the bottom of this hour

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Speaker 1: special edition and a Tech Friday Tech Thursday Dave Hatter.

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Speaker 1: Today we'll be talking about user reviving dead smart vacuum

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Speaker 1: with custom hardware, Internet of Things Bluetooth, exposing millions of

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Speaker 1: vehicles to remote code execution. That's kind of scary if

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Speaker 1: it is what I think it is. That's why we

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Speaker 1: have Dave to explain what it actually is. Artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: agents getting office tasks wrong, thankfully for you and me,

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Speaker 1: at least for the time being, seventy percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: So you can't rely on AI completely. You need a

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Speaker 1: one seven five with Congressman Warren Davidson. Now they ask

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Speaker 1: the shutdown is over. Donald Trump signed the legislation into law,

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Speaker 1: and of course dove into a little bit of details

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Speaker 1: hour with it, with the astute observation of Barton Swain,

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Speaker 1: it was the NGOs out there in the world, all

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Speaker 1: these leftist organizations that are funded by government were the

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Speaker 1: ones that were pestering the Democrats to keep this government

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Speaker 1: shut down because they're stopping the flow of money. And

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Speaker 1: the connected point on that was he used it by

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Speaker 1: way of illustration to contrast the reason the NRA, as

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Speaker 1: evil as you think it may be, is even a thing.

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Speaker 1: They don't wield that much power, but their power, to

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Speaker 1: the extent they've got it, to the extent they engage

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Speaker 1: in lobbying, which they do, all comes from people who

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Speaker 1: make voluntary contributions, regular run of the mill folks like

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Speaker 1: and the work that they do, which includes a lot

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Speaker 1: of training work. I mean, it's a safety organization, not

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Speaker 1: just this militant right wing gun organization whatever. But all

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Speaker 1: these left organizations, if they're not funded by multi billionaires,

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Speaker 1: they're funded by you through things like USAID. And there's

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Speaker 1: the reason for the breakdown. They don't have a funding

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Speaker 1: source other than evil politicians who think it's aoka for

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Speaker 1: them to route your taxpayer dollars into these crazy organizations.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. Maybe we'll see what Congressman David has

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Speaker 1: to say about Davidson has to say about that empower

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Speaker 1: unnied Eric Conroy. He is running against Greg Landsman. He's

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Speaker 1: a former CIA operative and he's doing the Empowered seminar.

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Speaker 1: They take twenty chunk of the seminar that takes place

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Speaker 1: tonight at seven pm and sounds like a really cool guy.

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Speaker 1: And I am going to ask him because I keep

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Speaker 1: meaning to ask a CIA person. Did the CIA get

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Speaker 1: paid during the shutdown?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: My my initiory action is I bet they did. No

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Speaker 1: one ever mentions the CIA employee. Should we feel sorry

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Speaker 1: for him during the shutdown? I know we felt sorry

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Speaker 1: for a lot of other folks.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So that'll take place to day doh five and then

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Speaker 1: coming to Cincinnati repaired Cincinnati lands on the global map

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Speaker 1: with the twenty twenty five US National Steinholding Championships eight

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Speaker 1: thirty with Mike Kisel, one of the guys from those

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Speaker 1: German Guys on Facebook. Mike's one on the program before

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Speaker 1: he'll be joined by Ben Huffman, who's the executive director

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Speaker 1: of the Cincinni Regional Sports Commission, to talk about how

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Speaker 1: great this Steinholding Championship is going to be. Now, without

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Speaker 1: further ado, jump back over the phones got Bobby on

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Speaker 1: the line. Bobby, welcome to the Morning Show. Good to

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Speaker 1: hear from you.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, my brother.

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Speaker 11: Hey, it's a happy handicap day today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: With the shutdown and the curfew change and everything, we're

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Speaker 11: putting a handicap shooting at three and a half of

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Speaker 11: the day.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you place a wager on one of

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Speaker 1: the sports bet sites for that?

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Speaker 12: Bobby, Well, it's an underground sports betting games. Ok, we

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Speaker 12: got you know, but we're putting it at three and

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Speaker 12: a half this weekend on the shooting, So suggest.

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Speaker 11: To take the over even though we got to shut

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Speaker 11: down and the curfew changing and everything, but we got

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Speaker 11: a ball game this weekend, so we're hoping to put

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Speaker 11: it three and a half over all.

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Speaker 1: Right, the first rule of betting on shootings is you

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Speaker 1: don't talk about betting on shootings. It's an underground operation, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: not I supposed to let people know that that's going

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Speaker 1: on out there.

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Does the slice of the gambling revenue go to support

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Speaker 1: the the Ohio Public Schools.

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Speaker 11: Charity?

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Speaker 1: Bobby, thank you man. You're gonna do your tagline faith, Family, Flag, firearm,

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Speaker 1: Freedom and three and a half.

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Speaker 11: When you got those you always got freedom and three

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Speaker 11: and over.

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Speaker 5: Three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I if I'm wishing you

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Speaker 1: luck on the accuracy, then does that mean I'm wishing

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Speaker 1: for people to get shot. I don't want to go

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Speaker 1: down that road. Bobby, you deal with your own.

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Speaker 11: We don't want it, we don't want it to happen.

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Speaker 11: We just got to clean the city up. But you

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Speaker 11: know you got I have a little bit of fun.

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Speaker 1: Then, well it is. It is out of your hands.

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Speaker 1: It's something you have zero control over, so why not

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Speaker 1: turn it into a sporting activity. Thanks Bobby, appreciate the

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Speaker 1: high level of comedy going on this morning. CJ, your

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Speaker 1: next CJ, Welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 13: Good morning to you. You know, I'm I was reading

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Speaker 13: a lot about this stuff yesterday, with this Epstein Trump stuff.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and I'm not going to say.

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Speaker 13: Trump's been a perfect man, but that email yesterday was really, really,

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Speaker 13: and I could say really about fifteen more times deceiving

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Speaker 13: because the Democrats and the press went along with it

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Speaker 13: and redacted names out of it.

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Speaker 1: Virginia.

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Speaker 13: That has been out for a number of years, yes, unredacted,

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Speaker 13: and that email.

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Speaker 14: Has been out.

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Speaker 13: We know who the victim is. And guess who wrote

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Speaker 13: a book saying that Donald Trump was the was not

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Speaker 13: involved and was did.

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Speaker 3: Everything to try to help her.

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Speaker 15: Was a person's name.

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Speaker 1: Who was redacted Virginia government.

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Speaker 15: It's such mouth.

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Speaker 13: Of the press and of the Democrats in order to

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Speaker 13: do this just to get a story. And I still

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Speaker 13: think that there's a possibility you do see Trump's name

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Speaker 13: in some pretty in some stuff that we don't want

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Speaker 13: to know about. But on this particular story, if you

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Speaker 13: want to create division and really get everybody thinking, you

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Speaker 13: know what, we're going to take our own side and

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Speaker 13: not listen to anybody else, this is a perfect way

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Speaker 13: to start it.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: But to the extent you take the bait and run

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Speaker 1: with it, then you're ignoring the fact that Virginia Guphrey

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Speaker 1: is the one who is in the redacted emails that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are claiming prove Donald Trump was engaged in

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Speaker 1: some sort of you know, I guess illicted activity. Not

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Speaker 1: just quite sure what they're saying, but they certainly are

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Speaker 1: suggesting it. Virginia Gufhrey was previously exposed in these emails

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Speaker 1: produced unredacted form. She was deposed on it. She did

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Speaker 1: write a book, but we have her sworn testimony saying

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump didn't do a damn thing and was,

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Speaker 1: in fact a really nice guy. So yeah, and to

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Speaker 1: your point, ot CJ, if there were any better documents,

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Speaker 1: if there were documents that had even more salacious suggestions,

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Speaker 1: if not proof, that Donald Trump was engaged in some

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Speaker 1: untoward activity in connection with Epstein, don't you think they

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Speaker 1: would have released those documents as opposed to this sketchy

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Speaker 1: one with the now redicted Virginia Guffrey as the victim

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Speaker 1: who already pointed out that Trump was a nice guy

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Speaker 1: and didn't touch her. Wouldn't you go for the cream

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Speaker 1: of the crop? In other words, CJ? Right, so.

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Speaker 13: With you on that, And it's really shows how the

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Speaker 13: press really is no longer a press, but just a

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Speaker 13: talking point for one side of the political spectrum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the counterpress to all of this, and remember

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Speaker 1: the mainstream media wields less and less control and dominance

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Speaker 1: in every day that ticks by. This was met with

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Speaker 1: an immediate response along the lines of what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about you want to be why don't you provide some context?

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Speaker 1: You know, Dan Well, who victim, the capital victa the

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Speaker 1: victim is it's guphery. Why don't you look at her

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Speaker 1: real testimony? Why don't you look at the words out

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Speaker 1: of her mouth? Why don't you read the books she wrote?

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Speaker 1: Because that provides far more context and accuracy about her

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Speaker 1: connection with Trump than any suggestion from an email exchange

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Speaker 1: between Epstein and his well, his what do you call

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Speaker 1: Geslaine Maxwell? Anyway? Is madam?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Close enough. Yeah, you're gonna be what are you gonna believe?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna read into something between those two text exchange

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Speaker 1: years after the factor. Are you gonna read the actual

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Speaker 1: words that came out of the victim and her mouth,

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Speaker 1: her book and her testimony. I'm going with the latter.

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Speaker 1: It makes much more sense. It's far more credible, and

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Speaker 1: it's actually the real words that she used.

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Speaker 2: C J.

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Speaker 1: Good point, My friend, appreciate it. You see it. Everybody

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Speaker 1: else that will is willing to take the time sees

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Speaker 1: that there's no there there And again to my point previously,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump said over and over again years ago and

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Speaker 1: when he promised to release the documents that he wanted

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Speaker 1: them released, he knows better than anybody what he did,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, if he knew something in his background

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Speaker 1: was terrible, and that would be terrible for him if

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Speaker 1: it got out. I doubt he would have taken such

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Speaker 1: a strong stance in connection with this prior to being

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Speaker 1: sworn into presidency when he suddenly changed his mind about

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Speaker 1: releasing the documents. That's what always bothered me. Six fifteen

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Speaker 1: fifty five krs DE Talk Station Cover Sincy, thirty five

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Speaker 1: KRSIT detalk Station, Happy Friday, Eve Tech Friday with Dave

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Speaker 1: had Her in an early day Tech Thursday. Coming up

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hour after this segment, and thank you

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker, who I always call him Internet research Guru.

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Speaker 1: An answer to my question, Yes, you can vote on

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Speaker 1: things like number of shootings in a given jurisdiction. You

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Speaker 1: can literally vote on anything. And these are private sites.

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Speaker 1: They are not regulated sites. But if you want to

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Speaker 1: get a payoff because you're able to name Times person

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Speaker 1: of the Year for twenty twenty five, for example, they

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Speaker 1: give you two choices. You get to choose from one,

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Speaker 1: and then there's the you know, the statistics Jensen or

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence in that particular case. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: who Jensen Wang is, but I presume an AI kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. Anyway, highest temperature in New York City, takes

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Speaker 1: photos of the parking lot. Joe, is that what it

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Speaker 1: is is that you're going full on caddyshack on that

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Speaker 1: one nice highest tempered to New York City today. You

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Speaker 1: can vote on that one as well. So I suppose, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: if you want to set up one of these, feel

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Speaker 1: free to do so. Frightening reality going on out there.

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Speaker 1: But apparently Joe said they do pay off. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like paying into an insurance premium pool. You know,

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Speaker 1: the money you pay insurance premium goes to cover claims.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to vote on the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: or Philadelphia, you can do that right there. Thirty two

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Speaker 1: million dollars in the pile. That's just so the tech

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Speaker 1: world we live in today. All right, back to the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Virginia Guffrey. We know she's the one who's been identifying

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Speaker 1: in the email with Democrats. Know that when the issue

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Speaker 1: the email redacted, they want to make you think Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is engaging some shenanigans with her Q and A.

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Speaker 1: Guffrey asked specific questions about Donald Trump during the deposition

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Speaker 1: November twenty sixteen as part of her lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: You remember that she went to jail. She's still in jail,

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Speaker 1: all right. What's inaccurate about the last statement on that page, Guphrey,

862
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffreys. That

863
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: part is true. He didn't partake in any of any

864
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: sex with any of us, but he flirted with me.

865
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us,

866
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald

867
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: Trump never flirted with me. The next sentence is he'd

868
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: laugh and tell Jeffrey, you've got the life close quote.

869
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: I never said that to her. Question from the lawyer,

870
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: when you say he didn't partake in any sex with

871
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: any of us, who is us? Virginia Guffrey's response. Girls

872
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Just then he terjet, how do you know who Donald

873
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Trump had sex with? Guphery Oh. I didn't physically see

874
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: him have sex with any of the girls, So I

875
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: can't say who he had sex with in his whole

876
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: life or not. But I just know it wasn't with

877
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: me when I was with other girls. Question, and who

878
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: were the other girls that you're with when Donald Trump's presence?

879
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: Guffery none there pause. I worked for Donald Trump, and

880
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: I met him probably a few times. Question when have

881
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: you met him? Her answer at mar A Lago. My

882
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: dad and him. I wouldn't say they were friends, but

883
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: my dad knew him and they would talk all the time,

884
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: well not all the time, but when they saw each other.

885
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: Question have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey

886
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Epstein's presence with another? Her answer, no, What is your

887
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: basis for your statement? Donald Trump is a good friend

888
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: of Jeffreys? Her response, Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump

889
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: was a good friend of his. Or Jeffrey told me

890
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a good friend of his. Question but

891
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: you never observed them together? Her response, No that I

892
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: can actually remember. I mean not off the top of

893
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: my head. No, when did Donald Trump flirt with you?

894
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: Her response, He didn't. That's what's inaccurate. Again, he's got

895
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: the statements from the prior testimony. He's reading them to her.

896
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: So she flagged that as an inaccurate statement. He did

897
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: not flirt with her, He did not have sex with her.

898
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: She said this repeatedly. Did you ever see Donald Trump

899
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: at Jeffreys' home? Her response, not that I can remember.

900
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: So I never flirted with her. I had relations with

901
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: Virginia Guffrey. She never saw Trump at Epstein's presence or

902
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: at his residence. She never saw Trump or met with

903
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Trump outside mar A Lago, and certainly not at Epstein's home.

904
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: So what's the point of releasing these two documents and

905
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: redacting her name when it was widely known it was

906
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: her making these statements. I'll leave that to you. You

907
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: can talk with your Democrat friends about that. Anything they

908
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: can do to try to undermine Donald Trump, they're going

909
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: to do it, whether it makes them look really, really,

910
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: really stupid or not. Six twenty five, Tech Thursday with

911
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: Dave had her coming up next First share Factor Talkdation. Ooh,

912
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: what's that music? That's bumper music, suggesting it's Friday morning,

913
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Time for Tech Friday with day Patter. No, it's not,

914
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: but I'm off tomorrow. So Joe and Dave got together

915
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: and decided to do an early edition. We're going to

916
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: call it tech Thursday, brought to you still by Intrust.

917
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: It final on line at interrust dot com, where Dave

918
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: and the crew are there to help you and your

919
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: business get out of trouble, keep you out of trouble.

920
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: If you have computers and I know you do. They're

921
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: the team to rely on. Don't need to rely on me,

922
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: even though I know Dave very well and he's a

923
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: brilliant man, as is his team. Business Courier says they

924
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: are the best in the business. Dave, thanks you so

925
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: much for doing the segment early. I love this segment,

926
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: so I'm glad we could do it today.

927
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my pleasure, Brian, and well we could fit it

928
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: in h phrasy.

929
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: This is this first one is a really revealing I

930
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: find it comical on some levels, but it is a

931
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: very revealing article which goes back to your whole criticism

932
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: of Internet of things regarding, in this case, a smart vacuum.

933
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: Tell my listeners about what the manufacturer did after this guy,

934
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: this smart man got in touch with his smart device

935
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: and kind of tinkered around a little bit with it.

936
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a crazy story, and it's just one of

937
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: the many reasons why I'm constantly warning folks about so

938
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: called smart devices aka the Internet of things. You know,

939
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: it's not only a privacy and security dumpster fire. It

940
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: really gets to the heart of digital rights management. And

941
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this over the years, you know,

942
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: with people like John Deere, telling you that you can't

943
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: fix your own tractor and that sort of thing. You know,

944
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: it gets to this idea of who really owns this

945
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: stuff once it has sulfware in it and it can

946
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 2: be remotely controlled. So in this particular case, this guy

947
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: was a fairly technical he bought and I'm surprised despite

948
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: the nature of his technical background, he would buy something

949
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: like this. But he bought an I life ale even

950
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: smart vacuum think ruma for people that know what a

951
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: rouma is. And what he found after doing some digging,

952
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: was that it was sending a lot of information back

953
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: to the company that made it. Now, that in and

954
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: of itself is not necessarily a bad thing, but when

955
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: he started looking into the data was sending back, like,

956
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: you know, it mapped his house, which I get, it's

957
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: got to know where it's going, but it was sending

958
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: all kinds of other data back. And he said, you know,

959
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: I don't know that I really appreciate all of this

960
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: data that it's sending back. And you know, Brian, I've

961
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: talked about this so many times with you, and just

962
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: in general, if you buy something like this and you

963
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: read all the terms of service and the privacy policy,

964
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, which is usually like an eighty

965
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: page confuse a believe that no one can understand. I

966
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: would argue on purpose then, and you still decide to

967
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: proceed when you understand what it's doing, how it's doing it,

968
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: the data it's collecting, who that can be sold to,

969
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: et cetera. Okay, fine, you have fully informed consent. But

970
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: in most cases that stuff is very deep down inside there.

971
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: You don't understand any of that, and you know ultimately

972
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: you sign up for these things, right and it starts

973
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: sucking up all kinds of data. That's one of the

974
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: reasons why these things are often inexpensive. They make more

975
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: money in the long run off the data they can

976
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: collect from you, your environment, your family, et cetera, than

977
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: they do from the device itself. So he decided to

978
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: basically shut down by blocking one of the servers that

979
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: was sending data, to just basically turn that data off. Now, again,

980
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: you also have to understand your smart device. It has

981
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: solfwaur in it. One of the things we talk about

982
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: almost every week is software updates. Why it's important to

983
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: get the updates for vendors. Another reason why I don't

984
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: like these things is because in many cases, after a

985
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: relatively short period of time, they'll move on to a

986
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: new model and they stop making software updates, which then

987
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: makes the model you currently have vulnerable. So again, you

988
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: need some amount of two way communication with the people

989
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: that make these things because you want to get the

990
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: software updates. He turns off this telemetry data it's collecting,

991
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: and they basically remotely brick that's fancy nerds speak for

992
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: disable the sweeper itself. So again this kind of I

993
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: know I've gone on a circuitous route here, but I'm

994
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: getting back to you. If you purchase at this device, right,

995
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: you spend your hard earned money on this, and then

996
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: they can turn it off simply because they don't like

997
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: the way you're using it. In this case, he disabled

998
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: some of the information they were able to collect from it.

999
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: Do you really own that device? Apparently not, I'm going

1000
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 2: to say no. Yeah, I'm going to say no. Now,

1001
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: he was eventually able to keep hacking at it, and

1002
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, again, this is a very technical guy, well

1003
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: beyond the capabilities of the average person, was able to

1004
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: make it work despite this. But yeah, you know, if

1005
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: you read the article here, I'm reading directly from furthermore

1006
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 2: the engineer made one disturbing discovery. Deep in the lungs

1007
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: of his non functioning smart vacuum. He found a command

1008
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: with a time stamp, that stamp that matched exactly the

1009
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: time the gate had to stop working. This is clearly

1010
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: a command, a kill command. And after he reversed it

1011
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: and rebuted the appliance, it roared back to life. Now

1012
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, they turned it off again once that he

1013
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: stopped the data collection again. He's kind of worked around

1014
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: it and it works. But you know, this is a

1015
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars device. How much time do you want

1016
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: to spend trying to hack your three hundred dollars device?

1017
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: Well, and I don't want to spend Any ignorant person

1018
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: that unlike you, wouldn't be in a position to even

1019
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: go in and tinker with it. I mean, it's like

1020
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: the peace of God for me this computer stuff. I'm

1021
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: not a program and I would even know what to

1022
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: look for. But this points out that I think the

1023
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: greatest thing about it is it's like people who are

1024
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: arguing about property tax. You really own your property. If

1025
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: you continue to have to make payments or have your

1026
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: property then foreclosed on, you don't this device. If you

1027
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: don't allow it to steal your take your data, steal

1028
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: your data, even though you've been warned ahead of time

1029
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: with the agreement you enter into, which you never read.

1030
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: It's not yours if they can shut it off. Period.

1031
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: Oh well, and one out of the point, you know,

1032
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: going back to my security and privacy dumpster fire comment

1033
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: that I'm making over and over and over about these things,

1034
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: let me just let me just read one last statement

1035
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: from this. From this, you looked at it software and

1036
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: operating system, and that's where he discovered the dark truth.

1037
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 2: The smart vacuum was a security nightmare in a black

1038
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: hole for his personal data. First off, it's andrei dbug Bridge,

1039
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: which gave him full root access to the vacuum, wasn't

1040
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: protected by any kind of password or so Again, it's

1041
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: not just that do you really own it. They can

1042
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: remotely disable it if they don't like what you're doing.

1043
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: If it's on a subscription service and you decide to

1044
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 2: stop paying the subscription, it's again you offer. These things

1045
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: almost always have the wrong consumer incentives. They're designed for

1046
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: speed to market, market share, ease of use. They're not

1047
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: designed for your privacy and security. And again I would

1048
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: argue in most cases they are doing the exact opposite.

1049
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: Right of that. And in the case of these rheumbo

1050
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: type vacuums, they're now equipped with cameras, as you pointed

1051
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: out previously on the Morning Show, cameras that have photographs

1052
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: of people showing up on the Internet, sitting there on

1053
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: the toilet or in other compromising positions. Because they're creepy

1054
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: vacuum cleaner as hoovering up all this data, I guess

1055
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: and sending it out into the world. Scary stuff. Don't

1056
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: do it, that's my default position. I listened to Dave

1057
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: Hatter and more sprite see the talk station six forty.

1058
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: If you've have krcdtalk station interest id dot it dot com,

1059
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: we find Dave Hatter and his amazing crew of computer experts.

1060
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Your business computer needs sponsoring the segment we call tech Friday.

1061
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: Doing it in a day early doesn't change the dynamic.

1062
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: The topics are still crazy interesting. And here's another scary one.

1063
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: What is this remote code execution that people can can

1064
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: hack into or use.

1065
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes, so when you hear the term remote code execution,

1066
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: basically what that's saying is that you could remotely access

1067
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: the system and execute commands on it. That's sort of

1068
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: the layman's terms explanation of what that means. It's a

1069
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: little more technical than that, but suffice it to say,

1070
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: if I can get to your system, and thanks to

1071
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: now everything being connected and full of software as we

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00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: just discussed with the sweeper in the last story, I

1073
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: mean this is sort of another example of why we

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00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: are increasingly creating problems in society by adding software to

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00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: everything now. And Brian, you know I'm no luddite, and

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00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: I spent twenty five plus years as a software engineer,

1077
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: so I'm not against this stuff per se. My issue is,

1078
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: again we are always trying to move fast and break things.

1079
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: We're not focused on privacy and security, as I mentioned before.

1080
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: We're focused on things like speed to market, ease of use,

1081
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: market share, convenience, and you know, your modern car. We've

1082
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: talked about this before. I encourage people to go see

1083
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: Privacy not Included from Mozilla again, Privacy not Included. Look

1084
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: it up. It's easy to find. They explore these kinds

1085
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: of systems, rank them, rate them, that sort of thing,

1086
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: and they did a big expos on modern cars. I

1087
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: think it was probably at the end of twenty twenty

1088
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: three and about you know, they're all basically rolling computers

1089
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: now with all kinds of sensors and.

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: Data, Internet of things, with devices that we don't have

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00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: any choice to buy one that's not Internet connected or

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: connected to the cloud in some way, shape or form,

1093
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: connected to the manufacturer in some way, shape or form.

1094
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: They don't have an opt out provision for that day, not.

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: That I'm aware of, no, And they talk about that

1096
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: in Privacy Not Included, And you know that's that's one

1097
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: of the problems with everything you buy now theoretically is

1098
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: smart Anyhow, this just goes to show you again why

1099
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 2: this is not such a good idea. And I'm not

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00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: saying there won't come a time where all of this

1101
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: will make sense, but until the people building this stuff

1102
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: are focused on privacy and security, especially the security piece

1103
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: and especially the robustness and resilience piece. Right. The fact

1104
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: that these things won't go down when you need them,

1105
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: The fact that they can't be exploited and then used

1106
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: to exploit other devices in your system that lead to

1107
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: money and shutting ransomware and that sort of stuff. That's

1108
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: my concern. So here four flaws in open Synergies Blue

1109
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: SDKSDK means Software Development Kit Blue two stack that I's

1110
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: successfully exploited could allow remote code executions on millions of

1111
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: transport vehicles from different vendors. Now this stop before I

1112
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: even go and think about that millions of vehicles from

1113
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: different vendors. So theoretically, what this is telling you is,

1114
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: for anyone who has used open Synergies Blue Software Development

1115
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: IT in their vehicles, because of these vulnerabilities, at least

1116
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: until they're patched, someone could remotely control those vehicles. Now

1117
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily mean they could use the throttle for

1118
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: the brakes. Maybe they could. I think that, you know,

1119
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: you've got to really dig into some of these things

1120
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: to understand just how widely exploitable they are. But it

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00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: goes on to say, then fashion together exploit chained and

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00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 2: run arbitrary code on cars from at least three major automakers, Mercedes, Benz, Volkswagen,

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Speaker 2: and Skota. I don't I'm not familiar with Skoda. I

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00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: guess that's a European brand. And then it says outside

1125
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: of these, fourth unnamed original equipment manufacturer has been confirmed

1126
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: to be affected as well. So again, to think about this,

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00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: almost every car made today probably everyone is full of software,

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00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: software made by human beings. Human beings make mistakes, you know, bugs, vulnerabilities,

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00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: call it whatever you want. And when you think about

1130
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: the possibility that a nation state adversary, on the day

1131
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: they decide to bring it all down or whatever, could

1132
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: suddenly take control of these vehicles and possibly, at the

1133
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: very minimum at least make them stop. Yeah, you know,

1134
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: perhaps they can't turn them into guided missiles by taking

1135
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: over the GPS and directing them to run into something,

1136
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: but they could probably at least take them, make them

1137
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: stop or behavior radically cause problems. Now imagine if those

1138
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: were in you know, police vehicles, fire trucks, ambulances, semi trailers. Yeah,

1139
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: it's it's not good. And you know, further on in

1140
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: here they say perfect Blue allows an attacker to achieve

1141
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: remote code execution on a vulnerable device considered an endpoint

1142
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: to the target system, which is critical. Speaking about vehicles, further,

1143
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: lateral movement within the vehicle depends on its architecture and

1144
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: might involve additional vulnerabilities. But the fact is, as we

1145
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: just continue to make things smarter quote unquote, in many cases,

1146
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: we're making them dumber because we are not focused on

1147
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: the right things again, privacy and security trying to build

1148
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: systems that can't be hacked or are incredibly difficult to hack,

1149
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: as opposed to, Hey, let's just jam this stuff out there,

1150
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: sell as many of these things as possible, and then

1151
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: move on to the next model without any thought about

1152
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: how all of the software inside these things to potentially

1153
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: be exploited to steal your data, steal your money, shut

1154
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: them down, shut your business down, cause chaos.

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm just left with Listen, I got a choice on

1156
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: whether I'm going to buy a room, but or not

1157
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: if I go out and buy a modern automobile, I'm

1158
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: stuck with this and I don't know what they've done

1159
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: by way of security. I don't know, and I will

1160
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: not know until somebody that takes over the damn car

1161
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: you come on the show and announce that, well, your

1162
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: car is capable of being hacked, and here's how they

1163
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: did it, or something terrible happens. We don't have a

1164
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: choice in the matter, and I wish we did. I

1165
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: don't want a car hooked up? Can I buy one those? Presently?

1166
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: The answer is pretty much no. We'll continue more.

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01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, for new cars. That's pretty much true. Privacy included. Folks.

1168
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: There you go take it out.

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01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: Artificial intelligence is not what it's cracked up to be.

1170
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: That coming up next with Dave Hatter. But if you're

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01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: looking for a world class smile.

1172
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: Six.

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01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: If you want fift about KCD talk station Brian Thomas

1174
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: with interest, its Dave Hatter, it's his company interest it

1175
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: dot com is reaffinded And this one actually put a

1176
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: smile on my face, Dave. Artificial intelligence is not all

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01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: it's cracked up to be. Although I see this as

1178
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: being a temporary phenomenon that look much like the Internet

1179
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: of Things devices. They'll probably try to iron it out

1180
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: and get more efficient and more accurate. But at least

1181
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: as of right now, we can't fully rely on AI.

1182
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I suppose can we?

1183
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a finer point of distinction here, Brian.

1184
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: First off, I'm going to be clear. You know, folks

1185
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: should go try these tools for themselves. Oh yeah, they

1186
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: can be extremely beneficial and productive when you understand what

1187
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: they can and can't do.

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01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: You can also write a number one country music song too.

1189
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah did you see that?

1190
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: But I did not.

1191
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: The number one country music song in the land is

1192
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence created, and it's also performed by a holy

1193
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence quote unquote artist number one song in country music. Okay,

1194
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: millions millions of clicks.

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01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, miss that. But this gets to something called

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01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: agentic AI or AI agents. Some would argue there's a

1197
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: small distinction between those two things, but ultimately, for the

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: average person, they mean the same thing. And this article

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Speaker 2: from the Register does a pretty good job explaining that.

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: One of the examples they give, for example, is when

1201
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: astronaut Dave Bowman orders how nine thousand the computer in

1202
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: two thousand and one to open the pod bay doors.

1203
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 2: How that's an example of agentic AI. You're asking the

1204
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: AI to actually take some action in the real world, right, So,

1205
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: and they're pointing out because there's been a lot of

1206
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: hype around I mean, obviously it's been a lot of

1207
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: hype around AA in general, but there's been a lot

1208
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: of hype around agentic AI in particular. And this idea

1209
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: that more more than I can just go down and

1210
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: type something in and it gives me some data or

1211
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: creates a video or a song or whatever, that I

1212
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: can ask it to do something right, perhaps do some work.

1213
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: And this is where you know, folks start to get

1214
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: concerned about at some point in the future job loss

1215
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: and such, because these agents can perform tasks, and you know,

1216
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: we've seen some success with certain things like this and

1217
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: interest in certain fixed spaces. Right. So again I'm not

1218
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: saying this can't work or there's not some value in it.

1219
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I think that there's so much hype

1220
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: around this stuff, and you've got to remember that people

1221
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: behind it, of course, are going to hype it up

1222
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: because they want you to buy it, right, So they

1223
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: get into some things in this article that I thought

1224
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: were quite interesting. For example, they mentioned that researchers at

1225
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: CMU have developed benchmark to evaluate how AI agents perform

1226
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: when given column knowledge common knowledge work tasks like browsing

1227
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: the web, writing code, running applications, and communicating with coworkers.

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01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: They call it the Agent company. A simulation environment, a

1229
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: simulated environment designed to mimic a small software firm and

1230
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: it's business operations. So this is, you know, again, a

1231
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: test and environment. Goes on to say they did sort

1232
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: of help clarify the debate between AI believers, who argue

1233
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 2: that the majority of human labor can be automated, and

1234
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: AI skeptics, who see such claims as part of a

1235
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: gigantic AI drift. The gap between these two positions, they

1236
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: argue detailing their project is due to the lack and

1237
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: the way of how these things are tested at common

1238
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: workplace activities, thus their benchmark. And then they go on

1239
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: to list a bunch of different AI platforms that can

1240
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: perform these kinds of tasks at best. Google Gemini two

1241
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: point five pro performed thirty percent of the tasks.

1242
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Directly as in seventy of the time they did it

1243
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: raw on yes.

1244
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: And it goes down pretty precipitously. From there, it drops

1245
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: off all the way to Gwinn two point seven to

1246
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: two b at one point one percent, and they say, quote,

1247
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: we find in experiments that the best performing the model

1248
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: was able to autonomously perform thirty point three percent of

1249
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: the provided test to completion and achieve a score of

1250
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: thirty nine point three percent on our metric that proves

1251
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: provides extra credit for partially completed tasks.

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01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: That's still an f.

1253
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, can you really for any sort of critical task?

1254
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: And you know, one of the big concerns I have

1255
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 2: about all of these things, and it's not often talked

1256
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: about in this context, is if you have an agent right,

1257
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 2: and again by agent, I mean it can do something

1258
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 2: on your behalf. Well, it's going to have to act

1259
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: as you or with some sort of online identity. It's

1260
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: going to have to have a username and password, that

1261
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: sort of thing. If that information is not secured, or

1262
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: if you give an access to your bank count for example,

1263
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: or a credit card, are you going to trust it

1264
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: to be wrong seventy percent of the time with that information?

1265
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: Uh No, especially when they're nefarious actors outside of your

1266
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: business operation. They're trying to hack in and get and

1267
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: take over control of that.

1268
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's my point again, I want people

1269
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: to understand. I'm not saying that you should never use

1270
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: these things. You shouldn't check them out, you shouldn't try

1271
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: to figure out how they can work for you. But

1272
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: if you're going to use them, you need to test

1273
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,959
Speaker 2: them very thoroughly, or use them for tasks where there's

1274
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: limited risk and or you really have to be thinking

1275
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: about security. You have to be thinking about, Okay, am

1276
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: I gonna how am I going to manage the credentials

1277
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: this thing is using it? The username of password MFA,

1278
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 2: How am I going to make sure that someone can't hack.

1279
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 2: It can't steal those credentials, or it can't go wrong

1280
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: and cause a catastrophic impact.

1281
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Speaker 1: Well, exactly, that's where I'm thinking the opening and closing

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Speaker 1: of any given valve at any given power plant or

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Speaker 1: water facility treatment plan or Yeah, that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff that that really scares me.

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Speaker 2: Dave. I'm concerned about critical infrastructure in general, but especially

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Speaker 2: those kinds of things, because again, one wrong decision could

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Speaker 2: be catastrophic in some cases.

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Speaker 1: So oh, and you're going to get a wrong decision

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Speaker 1: two thirds of the time according to this article Carnegie

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Speaker 1: Mellon study. Check it out in Dave's notes over at LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: Find Dave Hatter at LinkedIn. He always posts notes up there,

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Speaker 1: and he's a good man to follow on LinkedIn as well.

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter wish we had more time. We are out

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Speaker 1: of it. I'll look forward to back to our regular

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Speaker 1: order of business next Friday with another edition of tech

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Speaker 1: Friday with Dave Hatter, And again, salute to you and

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Speaker 1: your company, Interest it Online at interest dot com for

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Speaker 1: doing great work for area businesses, but also for sponsoring

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Speaker 1: the segment. Man, have a great weekend, brother.

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Speaker 2: Oh, where's my pleasure? Brian, thanks and you and Joe

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Speaker 2: and all your listeners do thanks mine.

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Speaker 1: Six fifty seven. Congressman Warren Davidson up next, don't col Way.

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Speaker 1: Today's top headlines coming up at the top of it.

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Speaker 1: Seven oh six. Here at fifty five KRCD talk station

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Speaker 1: pause long, pregnant pause, pause, pause. Chose trying to get

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Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson hasn't been unsuccessful so far. If you're

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Speaker 1: near or next to Congressman Warren Davidson right now, just

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Speaker 1: poke him and say, hey, you're supposed to be on

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Speaker 1: the morning show, or send out a search barn search

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Speaker 1: party for him. So I hope Congressman Davidson gets to

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Speaker 1: join us. Obviously, the shutdown is an effect, or the

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Speaker 1: is no longer an affect. Donald Trump signed the bill

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Speaker 1: reopening the government, UH yesterday, and I don't know what's next,

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Speaker 1: but I have thoughts and ideas about that. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats taking it on the chin as a consequence

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Speaker 1: of the shutdown, no one to blame but themselves. They

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Speaker 1: were able, they weren't able to successfully blame the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Clearly they really didn't get anything at all in return

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Speaker 1: for bringing you and forcing you to go through all

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Speaker 1: this pain, and to the extent you weren't listening to

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Speaker 1: me earlier on the program, I will refer you to

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Speaker 1: Barton Swain's op ed piece. Y Schumer had to do it,

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Speaker 1: And really it boils down to all of these non

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Speaker 1: government organizations and these political activist groups out there really

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Speaker 1: just burning up the phones and pressuring Democrats to keep

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Speaker 1: support coming in there in the form of taxpayer aid

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Speaker 1: to their NGOs for crazy stuff, you know, Democratic base.

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Speaker 1: And they, he pointed out, we weren't asking for you know,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden to leave the border wide open. They weren't

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Speaker 1: asking for that at all. It wasn't a top priority

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Speaker 1: for them. Neither was letting men play in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't number one of most Democrats hit parade. These

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Speaker 1: were all the pressuring from non government organizations. Men aren't women.

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Speaker 1: That was a lot of pressure from taxpayer funded, non

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Speaker 1: government organizations trying to convince the America and the world that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all you got to do is say you're a girl,

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Speaker 1: and then you're a girl. We all knew that wasn't true.

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Speaker 1: We all knew that wasn't right. You just had to

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Speaker 1: fight this messaging that was going on in the world.

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Speaker 1: And of course democrats that come to all that pressure

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Speaker 1: and they realized that a lot of their goals politically

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Speaker 1: are supported by these various fringe elements, and he rattles

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Speaker 1: off a whole bunch of them, from Planned Parenthood, ACLU,

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Speaker 1: the American Federation of Teachers, National Education Associations, Southern Poverty

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Speaker 1: Law Center, Black Lives Matter, Human Rights Campaign, LGBTQ, activist groups,

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Speaker 1: Foreign Connected Palestinian rights others like that. And these aren't

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Speaker 1: winning propositions, they're not getting money from you and I

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Speaker 1: to support these causes. It's coming from the George Soros

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Speaker 1: types of the world. But also again things like entities

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Speaker 1: like USAID. I keep going back to the original work

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Speaker 1: that Doge did and sadly didn't come out and amount

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Speaker 1: to a whole lot compared to what we were promised.

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Speaker 1: But do you think really anybody was clamoring for politicians

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Speaker 1: to fund crazy research projects involving transvestite lesbians in China

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Speaker 1: or whatever. That may be an overstatement of the absurdity,

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Speaker 1: but you can pick your own really genuine absurd program

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Speaker 1: that was in fact being funded by your taxpayer dollars.

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Speaker 1: So that maybe he may be onto something there part

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Speaker 1: and swam, so I'll let you read it for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Since we don't have Congressman Davidson, I'm kind of left

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Speaker 1: reeling over which direction I want to go right now.

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Speaker 1: So the phone lines are open, Why don't you call

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Speaker 1: and tell me what you want to talk about? Five one, three, seven, four,

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Speaker 1: nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three

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Speaker 1: talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones fast

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Speaker 1: forward one hour. Actually, yeah, Take twenty speaker tonight, Empower

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Speaker 1: Youamerica dot Org. Now, we heard from Donaldan O'Neil yesterday

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Speaker 1: about we have too many little subgovernments in the state

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Speaker 1: of Ohio. Some people agree, some people disagree. Devil is

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Speaker 1: clearly in the details. He makes some good points, but

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Speaker 1: he'll elaborate on that. AFP's Donovan O'Neil tonight at seven pm.

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Speaker 1: But that Take twenty segment they do in Empower You seminars.

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Speaker 1: That's Eric Conroy today, and we have some hope here

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Speaker 1: in the form of Eric Conroy, who's running against Greg Landsman.

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Speaker 1: Eric spent a lot of time with the CIA Directorate

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Speaker 1: of Operations, served as a case officer. Apparently the agency's

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Speaker 1: most prestigious role managing these clandestine operations. Elder High school

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Speaker 1: grad from my West Side friends as well, So thanks

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Speaker 1: a little. Well, no, I'm not going to hold it

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Speaker 1: against them. Every time hear about Elder High School, I

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Speaker 1: think about the time my dad told me I was

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Speaker 1: not allowed to go there. God rest of my dad. Yes,

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Speaker 1: dad was an older high school graduate, thought I was

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Speaker 1: spending a little bit too much time with my elder

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Speaker 1: high school age friends and didn't want to see that

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Speaker 1: go throughout the day. That's the answer I got, Dad.

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Speaker 1: Can I go to Elder No, you got two choices,

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Speaker 1: son Oakhill's High schoolers Javier University. I chose the former.

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Speaker 1: Did not hurt me a whit getting through life. So

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Eric Conroy coming up in eight OZHO

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Speaker 1: five and then Special Style. I ain't holding championships. The

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five US Nationals right here in the city

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Mike Kisel one of those German guys on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: He is one. Mike KUIs has been on the show before.

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Speaker 1: He along with Ben Huffman, who's the executive director of

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnate Regional Sports Commission, I'm gonna talk about this

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Speaker 1: prestigious event right here in the city of Cincinnati, with

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Speaker 1: profound ties to Germany. Generally speaking, how long can you

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Speaker 1: hold up a style? Let's see what Lawrence has got. Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for having me, Brian. I was calling. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I was calling because I.

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Speaker 10: Vote they of course my name is Lawrence, I Liddle

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Speaker 10: named Florence, but my government name is on this op

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Speaker 10: ed I think you referred to I'm glad you talked

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Speaker 10: about it.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, expounded upon it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Please do I did. There were two op eds recently,

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Speaker 1: both from what sounded to me like discrontal Bond Hill

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Speaker 1: residents who all overwhelmingly voted for mare aftab Per of

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Speaker 1: all the prior council members all re elected, with the

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Speaker 1: exception of the one seat was over and which also

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Speaker 1: went Democrat. And there's this project, and you guys were

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Speaker 1: the focus of like Hyde Park going up to the election,

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Speaker 1: a community that was ignored by the representative government. Am

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Speaker 1: I right on that? Generally speaking? Before you dive into

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Speaker 1: the details, Lawrence, that's true, all right, so have that it.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing, Brian.

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Speaker 10: We see the election results, right and I was shocked

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Speaker 10: when I seen this obed as well from a bond

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Speaker 10: Hill resident. So I was confused, Like, why do you

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Speaker 10: tell the politicians to respect you if you feel disrespected

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Speaker 10: the week after the election? Like you're supposed to show

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Speaker 10: that type of energy before the election to hold them

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Speaker 10: accountable for the bad choices that they have been making. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: but so to ask them on the back end of

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Speaker 10: an election, Hey, you need to respect us, although we

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Speaker 10: gave you all our votes. To me, is Asini, it

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Speaker 10: makes no sense. And this is how the Democratic Party

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Speaker 10: gets away with Robin the African American community political We don't.

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Speaker 5: Hold them accountable like we should.

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Speaker 10: I just vote straight down a Democratic ticket and it's

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Speaker 10: to our own demands.

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Speaker 1: Now, why do you think someone would do that? Lawrence?

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Speaker 1: And I guess the question is I sort of were

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Speaker 1: people who actually voted, and I know there's a sad

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Speaker 1: reality there only about one in four of the registered

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Speaker 1: voters in the city voted. But to the extent they

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Speaker 1: were thinking about this, did they think, well, if I

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Speaker 1: vote for the current administration again, we put them back

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Speaker 1: in that in return for that, they will see that

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Speaker 1: my neighborhood, in this case bond Hill gave them the

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Speaker 1: love they needed. They overwhelmingly re elected them, so we

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Speaker 1: will get what we are looking for, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: getting what you're looking for up front and then voting

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Speaker 1: to reward them. So they apparently got it backwards.

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Speaker 10: Lawrence, Absolutely, Brian, they got it backwards.

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Speaker 5: And here's the point I wanted to make.

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Speaker 10: We got to stop voting out of fear as a community,

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Speaker 10: as an Afromeric community, we have to stop voting out

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Speaker 10: of fear. And I feel like.

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Speaker 5: That Corey Bowman was.

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Speaker 10: Used as a punching bag to scare black folks into

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Speaker 10: voting down the Democratic ticket by saying, oh, this is J. D.

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Speaker 10: Vance's brother. And the media is part of the blame too,

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Speaker 10: because every time Corey got some ink on him, they

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Speaker 10: always mentioned the vice president.

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Speaker 1: I know, but Lawrence, let me ask you a more

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Speaker 1: basic question. You're absolutely right in how they and how

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Speaker 1: they characterize Corny Bowman as JD. Vance's brother. But let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this. That's apparently toxic to members of

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Speaker 1: the black community. As you say, why would the black

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Speaker 1: community have any fear or worry about JD. Vance? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what threat does he represent to you or anybody else

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Speaker 1: in the black community, Lawrence.

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Speaker 10: I mean, for me, jd Vance, the current Vice President

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Speaker 10: of the United States, is not a threat to me.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 10: I believe that a lot of times the Afrimair community

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Speaker 10: has been groomed to vote Democrats. The civil rights the

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Speaker 10: voted rights that excuse me, in the sixties, way before

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Speaker 10: my time. So as I grew up as a young man,

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Speaker 10: the city is Cincinnati, because I was born and raised here,

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Speaker 10: Democratic politics was always something that was pushed on our community,

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Speaker 10: something that we still have yet to break free from

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Speaker 10: as a community. And until that happens, we get these

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Speaker 10: bad results, like you know, straight Democrats, no opposition our

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Speaker 10: city council, no accountability for the mayor although we've seen

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Speaker 10: the entire year in the last four years, rather that

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Speaker 10: he has been ineffective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and several decades of ineffective Democratic administrations, I might

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Speaker 1: point out, Lawrence. Do you feel like your neighborhood has

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Speaker 1: improved over the same past ten years, fifteen years or so?

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Speaker 1: Is your are your roads? Have they been paved? Is

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Speaker 1: your neighborhood does it feel safe or maybe less safe

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Speaker 1: than it used to be? I mean, what reward and

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Speaker 1: benefit did your particular community or you individually Lawrence get

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Speaker 1: by virtue of voting Democrat in the city of Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: for the past forty I guess it's been like forty years.

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Speaker 10: I mean my community, the black community, we have not

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Speaker 10: benefited from it. It's like, you know, there's some people

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Speaker 10: who push this Democratic agenda just to keep control with

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Speaker 10: the Black community. It's not the better it you know,

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Speaker 10: it's to keep control. It's to make sure that Democrats

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Speaker 10: keep getting elected vocally. And the reality is that is

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Speaker 10: to the detriment of our community. Time example, like I

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Speaker 10: vote about Bond Hill, Like you didn't want high density

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Speaker 10: and near these homes where people are invested trying to

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Speaker 10: get generational wealth for their family, majority African American people,

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Speaker 10: but you vote.

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Speaker 5: For the folks who are destroying your home values.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's like like this is this is craziness,

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Speaker 10: and I just, I just I want to continue to

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Speaker 10: work in Cincinnati to try to break people's minds free

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Speaker 10: of that Democratic ticket. I'm I like to call it

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Speaker 10: crack Oka. You know, it's addictive and it's destructive and

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Speaker 10: hopefully at some point we understand that lexis have consequences

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Speaker 10: and maybe while he will get that message.

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Speaker 1: You know what Lawrence. Honestly, I really thought this might

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Speaker 1: have been I tried my best to be optimistic that

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Speaker 1: that realization would have finally dawned on at least the

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Speaker 1: residence of bond Hill or at least the residence of

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Speaker 1: Hyde Park, because those are the two most egregious examples

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Speaker 1: of this particular council in this particular mayor basically ignoring

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Speaker 1: what you want. I mean, look what Hyde Park was

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Speaker 1: able to get a ballot initiative on to reverse that

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 1: ridiculous project that the city approved over the will of

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Speaker 1: the residence of hyde Park, only to see Hyde Park

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Speaker 1: goes seventy five percent to have to have perv all

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Speaker 1: the balancer council. In the aftermath, they rewarded.

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Speaker 5: So this apartment of white community.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 10: I'm just I mean, I'm glad you pointed Hot Park

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Speaker 10: out by He'll triggered me because of the op ed.

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Speaker 10: But you point out what High Park is, right. You know,

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Speaker 10: they fight so hard to protect the character the community,

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Speaker 10: only to give power back to the politicians who try

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Speaker 10: to destroy it.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 10: It's a Stockholm syndrome type of mentality. Well, the white community,

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Speaker 10: it's like the Democrats are good, Republican bad and it's

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Speaker 10: like zombies.

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Speaker 1: Well I couldn't as summed it up any better. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad as a member of the black community, Lawrence,

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 1: you see it, and I'm glad you're out there fighting

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: to wake people up. You mean, simple questions need to

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01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: be asked. Are you better off now than you were before?

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01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: What has JD. Vans ever done to you that you

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01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: view them as any kind of threat to you or

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01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: your neighborhood in Cincinnati over which Jdvan says little or

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01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: no control. Ah, there's a billionaire.

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Speaker 10: If And I appreciate you pointing out the high Park

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01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 10: that the same problems going.

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Speaker 5: On in the white community.

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Speaker 10: It's just a it's a political thing, and we can't

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01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 10: just paint people in the corners locally as it relates

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 10: to politics like it just it has to change at

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01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 10: some point in time otherwise you're going to continue to

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Speaker 10: get bad policy. I look for the next two years,

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Speaker 10: we're gonna get bad policy out of city.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Well wait for it, Lawrence. You may get yourself

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01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: a second leg of the street car too, Lauren.

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Speaker 14: That might be on that.

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01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: We'll see though, We'll see.

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01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, lead the charge, Laurence, somebody's got to do it.

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01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: You sound like a good man for the job. Thanks

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01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: for calling in. I really appreciate it. You have a great

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: weekend Man seven, twenty fifty five car City Dog Station.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to call five one three, seven four nine

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Speaker 1: fifty seven twenty four Fast Proaching seven twenty five fifty

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Speaker 1: five care City Talk Station. We have a moment here

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Speaker 1: I had. I alluded to it when I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Dave Hatter, and I just my mind is blown,

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Speaker 1: although really not overly surprised. I mentioned the fake cowboy

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01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: and fake artificial intelligence created music that is number one

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Speaker 1: country charts. Walk My Walk, performed by someone named Breaking Rust,

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Speaker 1: number one of Billboard's Country Song Sales Chart Digital Song Sales.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's making the money off of this,

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01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: but artificial intelligence wrote the song, artificial intelligence performed the song.

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Speaker 1: This is not a human being, does not exist in

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01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: the flesh, nonetheless pulling in more than two million monthly listeners.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the hit performed by the artificial intelligence breaking Russ

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01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: this quote unquote guy living on borrowed times streamed more

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: than four million times at least as of reporting from

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: two days ago. Is probably ten million by now, So

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Speaker 1: it's it's weird, and I think I know some musicians

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Speaker 1: and some artists out there, and I just scratched my

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01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: head and wonder how maybe they can compete against something

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01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: like this that literally in a moment's time, insofar as

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Speaker 1: lyrics are concerned. I've done this before. I'm jokingly did

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01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 1: it on the radio program. I did write a punk

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01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: rock song about I can't remember Greta Thunberg or whatever.

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01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 1: It turned it out in a matter of five seconds.

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Speaker 1: I'm great. The lyrics were great, it was comical, it

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: was funny, and as I was reading it in my head,

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: I actually came up with a tune that went right

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Speaker 1: along with it. So this is the the call it creepy,

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01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: or just call it dealing with with with modern reality

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01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: and who cares who wrote it and who cares who

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01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: performed it? If it entertains us and it say, okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I really can't view it that way,

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Speaker 1: not at all. And then you get that looming question,

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01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, is this really the work of any work

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: anybody out there, an author, an artist, an artist of

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: any type? Did they personally do this and thus are

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Speaker 1: worthy of my respect for their brilliance and their genius

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01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: and composing or or painting or whatever it happens to be.

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01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's like sort of equity hires. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're a doctor, you're awesome, you legitimately performed, you got

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: a great education, you're brilliant by contrast to some of

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01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: your peers. And you're out and you're a doctor, and

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01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: someone looks at you and says, must be a diversity

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01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: hire or something like that. It taints the whole air.

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01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: Did that person really prepare that? Are they worthy of

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01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: my respect for the eloquence that the words that are

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01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: coming out of their mouth suggest? Or they just get

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01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 1: in front of a computer with their mouth hanging open,

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01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: little drool coming out of the court of their mouth,

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01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: and say, make me a song that's about Greta Thunberg Right.

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Speaker 1: Seven twenty eight fifty five KRCD talk station Summary seven

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Speaker 1: thirty two fifty five kr CD talk station. A couple

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Speaker 1: of callers online. You can be one of them. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two three talk

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Speaker 1: pound five fifty on AT and T phones. Gonna go

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01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: with the order in which they ever see which means, Eric,

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01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: welcome to the morning show, my meme loving friend. How

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01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: are you today, Eric?

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 4: I am, well, how are you?

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01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 1: Brian doing fine?

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01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: Man?

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01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: I enjoy your Facebook posts.

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01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 4: I figured, hey, since you got time on the air,

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01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 4: I figured i'd i'd just call in and say I

1624
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 4: appreciate the things that you do, the things that you

1625
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 4: talk about, the perspective you have on just pretty much everything.

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01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 4: You know, we disagree on certain religious aspects, and I

1627
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 4: don't hold that against anybody. I'm all about people believing

1628
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 4: what they want to believe, as long as they're not

1629
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 4: you know, picking my pocket, breaking my leg, or you know,

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,440
Speaker 4: generally keeping it away from my grandkids.

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Speaker 1: But true to litarian philosophy, Eric, I know that.

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean I've been listening to the KRC Morning

1633
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 4: Show since probably two thousand and three, two thousand and four,

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01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 4: so back before you were, you know, the main stay

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01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 4: on the show. But I don't know, You've got your

1636
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 4: ups and downs and in and outs and whatnot. I

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01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 4: just wanted to express my appreciation that, you know, you

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01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 4: take the time. I don't know you're getting paid for it,

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01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 4: but there's also a certain amount of dedication to the

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 4: things that you do. And you know, you can tell

1641
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 4: when somebody's he's just phoning it in and they just

1642
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 4: you know, mouthing the words to uh, well, keep it

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01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 4: on the air.

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. You know, this is

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01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: I've said it before. It I have a set of

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01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: principles and convictions, my own ethics and morals, my own

1647
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: belief systems, and I'm so firmly wed to them and

1648
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: believe in them so firmly that I'll take all comers.

1649
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: You don't have to agree with me one hundred percent,

1650
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: but I'll defend my belief systems and my perspective, which, again,

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01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, given my little L libertarian leanings, I trust

1652
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: you with your decision making. Don't let your decisions interfere

1653
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: with my own and my own you know world, my money,

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01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: my pocketbook, and my my sex life. I trust you

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01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: with your zipper and your wallet, like any true liberty

1656
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: little L libertarian or capital L libertarian typically does. That's

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01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: what freedom's all about.

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01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 4: Eric, right, absolutely, And as a as a dear friend

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01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: of mine used to say, his name's Charlie. He's actually

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 4: the guy that got me into listening.

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Speaker 16: To your show.

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Speaker 4: He used to say, you know, there are choices, challenges

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01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 4: and changes. You know, you make choices, and those choices

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01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 4: present challenges. Thouse the way we deal with those challenges

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01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 4: bring about changes. You know, he's a much wiser man

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01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 4: than I ever will be. But you know it's you

1667
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 4: have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of

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01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 4: your decisions.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Brother. That's why I start the morning show with

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Speaker 1: the song I start with learn to Swim.

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01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 4: Right here, Learn to Swim. Meet you out in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Bay, Amen, Eric.

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Speaker 4: And before I go, I just wanted to say, similar

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 4: to what Tom says, you know, you don't have to

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01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 4: be a you don't have to be a Republican, but

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01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: you just can't be a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Mirroring a theme that brought up by Lawrence just a

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Speaker 1: few moments ago. Eric, God bless you, sir, Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Seven thirty five Corey, hang on, brother, I know you

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01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: got good things to say say, but I'm seven thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: I think you have KARSD talk Station. Happy Friday, Eve,

1682
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: just tuning in. We're maring me from early today. Garret

1683
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker is coming for me tomorrow. I'm taking a

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01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: vacation day tomorrow and Monday with Dan Carroll covering for me.

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01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,879
Speaker 1: You are going to be in great hands. It's typical

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Speaker 1: Gary Dan. Thanks in advance. I appreciate Corey holding over

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Speaker 1: the break. Corey, Welcome to the Morning Show.

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01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 8: Hello Brian Hey, going off with your last caller said,

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Speaker 8: I listened to you every day. I do think you

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01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 8: have great content. I travel all over the Midwest. I'm

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Speaker 8: currently going through ann Arbor on the way to Sagonhall, Michigan,

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01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 8: and I said, I listen to you if I heart

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01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 8: app every single day.

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Speaker 3: And you guys with me in.

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Speaker 8: The truck they listened to you as well.

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Speaker 1: But I can't thank you enough for that. And I

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01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 1: always find it really cool. And somebody calls it from

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Speaker 1: out of state with the iHeart I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just I'm I haven't ever gotten use to that concept,

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01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: so it's awesome though. I really think that's cool.

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Speaker 8: Well, the reason of my call you're talking about AI.

1702
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 8: I've been playing music since I was eleven. My dream

1703
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 8: has always been to be a professional physician, you know,

1704
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 8: tour all that good stuff, played in front house with people.

1705
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 8: I've larded with the opportunity a couple of times. I've

1706
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 8: never really got there. I'm still trying, But as far

1707
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 8: as the AI thing goes, I don't see really any

1708
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 8: issue with it, because most of your pop music today anyway,

1709
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 8: is so artificially produced. Yeah, somebody writes their songs, their

1710
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:37,520
Speaker 8: voice is so manipulated, and the radio stations, the radio programmer,

1711
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 8: the artists, record company pays the radio stations to play

1712
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 8: the music you hear. That's why it's the same ten

1713
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 8: songs constantly on rotation. And people ask me why do

1714
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 8: I listen to talk radio, and I always tell them

1715
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 8: because I get tired of hearing the same ten songs

1716
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 8: every single hour of every radio station.

1717
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 4: Idio, mainstream radio is.

1718
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 14: So that's why I.

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01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate the kind words, and I'm honored

1720
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: that you would choose my radio program to listen to

1721
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: among the I don't know how many thousands or maybe

1722
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 1: out in the world that you could stream through an app.

1723
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: So that to me, I'm honored by that reality. But

1724
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: I will correct you because Joe Streker was shaking his

1725
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 1: head and I was shaking my head. No, that's not

1726
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: how the financial reality works. If we play a song,

1727
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: we have to pay the artist, So nobody's paying us

1728
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 1: to play a particular song. That's a banned by the FCC.

1729
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: It's called playola and you can't do that, so we

1730
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 1: would get fined. Yeah, find big time. I think that

1731
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: is a gross understatement. Streker, Yes, it would subject us

1732
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: to massive financial penalties. When you hear that same song

1733
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: over and over again, I guess it's like that artificially

1734
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: intelligence created country music song that people are going wild

1735
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: for even though it isn't created by a human being,

1736
01:31:54,920 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: that people would just want to hear it. I mean,

1737
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure we can all remember periods of time in

1738
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: our lives when you turned on a radio you couldn't

1739
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: get away from a song. Why because it was the

1740
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 1: Billboard top ten or something like that, and if you

1741
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: were playing it that people would stay tuned into your

1742
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: show because the song was popular. And you get into

1743
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: this death spirl coupled with programming that uses those sort

1744
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: of research numbers and artificial intelligence, let's say, kind of

1745
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: operation where it used to be a human being like

1746
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: a randomly and picking songs that the jockey of the

1747
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: disc jockey used to like back in the day. He

1748
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: gets like pirate radio sort of concepts where man, I've

1749
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 1: never heard that anywhere, nobody's playing that that's how a

1750
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 1: lot of people were introduced to different types of music.

1751
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Well that's been taken away now. It's sort of one

1752
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: size fits all programming. They figure out what most popular

1753
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: songs are, they put them in a rotation regularly, and

1754
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: you hit play and you're stuck with it. So that's

1755
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: my perception of how things are working. And again, the

1756
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 1: FCC strictly prohibits playing things in return for compensation, so

1757
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: it tends to work the opposite way. But Dan, you're

1758
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: dissatisfaction with it, And yes, I share your belief about

1759
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: modern music sucking. You got harmonizers and fake voices and

1760
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: any idiot standing there and what they do it's oh,

1761
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 1: let us, let us go way back. Here's a blast

1762
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: in the past. You've got to get a chuckle out

1763
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: of some of these people. You remember the Brady Bunch

1764
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: episode where Mike, the oldest Brady kid, what was his name, Mike?

1765
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: That was the husband Greg Greg Remember anybody remember Johnny Bravo.

1766
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 1: I think it was some music company. They had a suit.

1767
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: It was sort of like a matador's uniform, and he

1768
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: thought he landed this great musical gig, this record gig,

1769
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: and it turns out the only reason they hired him,

1770
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to any other human being, was because he

1771
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: fit the suit. And that's even more true these days.

1772
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: I need a good looking person standing there on stage. No,

1773
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't care whether they can sing or not. Just

1774
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: give me a really good looking person. We can sell

1775
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: based upon their image, will create image around them, will

1776
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: sell it massively, infuse on social media, and we'll just

1777
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 1: use some sort of mechanical device to make them sound

1778
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: like they actually can carry a tune when maybe they can't.

1779
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: They pulled that off with Millie Vanilli way way back,

1780
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: a long time before we even had artificial intelligence. Walking

1781
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 1: down memory lane five one three, seven, four nine fifty

1782
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk found five

1783
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 1: fifty on AT and T phones. And since I mentioned

1784
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: memory Lane earlier this morning, Pat was called dismayed by

1785
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: how dangerous it is now in certain neighborhoods where she

1786
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: remembered when she was a kid that she could walk

1787
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: around and feel safe even as a child. And well,

1788
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: thus it has ever been. You know, there's all kinds

1789
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: of neighborhoods that have changed dramatically. The question is what

1790
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: do we do about crime?

1791
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Now?

1792
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: This was in the context of the new curfews that

1793
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 1: are being put in place by pervol and city Council,

1794
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 1: and I set out loud. I remember when I was

1795
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 1: a really little kid walking down to the king Quick store's,

1796
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: the one on Knee Road there near Rapid Run. I

1797
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 1: used to walk down there Devil's Backbone. If you're not

1798
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,480
Speaker 1: familiar with that, doesn't mean anything to you. Devil's Backbone

1799
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily a safe road because of the way it

1800
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: used to be back then. It's still windy, it's still twisty,

1801
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: but back then it was just an undivided two lane road.

1802
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: Country kind of road, very country kind of road. I

1803
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: don't matter what. My sister and I were able to

1804
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 1: walk about two miles to go down to the king

1805
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Quick by ourselves, and we loved it. Go down and

1806
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: buy Penny candy. My friend Curbbage Mike, I've mentioned him

1807
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: many times. He's a retired submarin er guy military. He said.

1808
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 1: My dad sold a family grocery store back in nineteen

1809
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: sixty eight and over the road went to be the

1810
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: manager at king Quick's stores. Generally speaking, he said, the

1811
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 1: store at and even Rapid Run was his first store.

1812
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I thought, wow, that's a small It's just an amazing

1813
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 1: coincidence there. But then that reminded me, when do you remember,

1814
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: Since inflation is a real problem these days and it's

1815
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: on everybody's lips, when do you remember your first encounter

1816
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: with inflation? Mine was at King Quick because my sister

1817
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: and I would walk down there to buy penny candy

1818
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: and you get those little tiny white paper bags and

1819
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: you have the guy behind the counter, and I want

1820
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: one of those. I want one of those. They were

1821
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: a penny apiece. I remember how shocked and heartbroken I

1822
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: was when they went up to two cents apiece, and

1823
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: then not that long thereafter, they went up to five

1824
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: cents apiece. This was during the seventies when we were

1825
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: dealing with massive inflation along with the stagnant economy. So

1826
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,919
Speaker 1: thanks for that blast from the past. My first experience

1827
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: with inflation. King Quick run by Cribbage Mike's dad seven

1828
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: forty seven fifty five cars of the detog stations and

1829
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: feel free to give me a call. Monday is today.

1830
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 1: I hope the weather holds. I haven't even looked at

1831
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: forecast from Monday, but I'm talking about galaxy, concrete cuttings

1832
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 1: and the surface app seven fifty two five gar C

1833
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: detalk station. At the top of the hour, news Eric Conroy,

1834
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: he'll be the Take twenty speaker, and y empower use

1835
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: some of our former CIA operative running for Congress against Greig.

1836
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: We'll learn about what Eric's all about. Well, here about

1837
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 1: what he's going to be talking about tonight. The Empower

1838
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: You America Seminar. Go to Empower You America dot organ

1839
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 1: either show up in person or log in from home.

1840
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Just make sure you register ahead of time. Jay, thanks

1841
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

1842
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 17: Hey, good morning, Bryant. I am calling in.

1843
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 8: It's bittersweet.

1844
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 17: I am sad that the government shut down is over.

1845
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 17: I am proud that the American people found out that

1846
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 17: how painless it is to shut down the government for

1847
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 17: ten percent of the year and almost you know, if

1848
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 17: we want to cut government spending, that's the only way

1849
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 17: to do it. Maybe we need to just do that

1850
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 17: every year. Is just figure it into the system of

1851
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 17: running the federal government that forty days a year, you're

1852
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 17: going to shut this thing down until we have this

1853
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 17: budget balanced and then they can make all the you know,

1854
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 17: all the arrangements and change what they need to change

1855
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 17: to make sure that the people that need to work

1856
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 17: get paid. But second point, as if people think that

1857
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 17: this air travel is going to go back to normal,

1858
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 17: I got news for him. I've been I travel a lot,

1859
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 17: and it's been severely broken since May I stopped air travel.

1860
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 17: I'm driving everywhere. I'm just on my way back from

1861
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 17: Rhode Island. I've driven down to Florida. And here's the

1862
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 17: here's the truth. Whenever you fly versus drive, you're saving

1863
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 17: yourself only a couple hours from Rhode Island CVG to

1864
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 17: Rhode Island or CVG to to Florida, Northern Florida. You're

1865
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 17: really not gaining much, but you sure are taking a risk.

1866
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 17: And I think it goes back and nobody's talking about this.

1867
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 17: It goes back to the COVID era, whenever air traffic

1868
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 17: controllers and pilots were told you either take this experimental

1869
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 17: job or you're not going to have a job, and

1870
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 17: we lost a ton of people. Plug the infrastructure being

1871
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 17: nineteen seventies floppy discs that I learned by listening to

1872
01:38:58,600 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 17: your program.

1873
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah it is.

1874
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 6: It is bad.

1875
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 17: So we think we needed to turn this government back

1876
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 17: on so we could all start traveling again. Brace yourself.

1877
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 5: Folk.

1878
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 17: So this Thanksgiving and Christmas season, if you think it's

1879
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 17: going to be like it was two years ago, three

1880
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 17: years ago, five years ago, good luck for me. I'm

1881
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 17: going to contain it to drive until they can prove

1882
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 17: that they can get made from point A to point being,

1883
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 17: not hang me out to drive every fricking week.

1884
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: I understand the decision making, Jay, but I am sure

1885
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: that you are a confident driver that doesn't mind being

1886
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 1: behind the wheel. If we had all the people who

1887
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 1: choose air traffic as to fly as opposed to driving,

1888
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: and the reason many of them fly is because they

1889
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: are not competent drivers who feel comfortable behind the wheel

1890
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: and shouldn't be on the road anyway, that you've got

1891
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 1: a bigger problem on your end if we turn our

1892
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 1: back on air traffic. Point well taken note, Jay, I'm

1893
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: with you. But the other thing I got to interject,

1894
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: did we really save anything by having the government shut down?

1895
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,520
Speaker 1: You saw what was negotiated. Return all the fired employees

1896
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: to their job, give everybody the back pay that we

1897
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: anticipated they were going to get. Anyway, we obviously had

1898
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: the debt service on all the real estate government owes

1899
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: the property tax pills that are doing everything else that

1900
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: goes along with ownership of any property. They had to

1901
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 1: deal with that, they continued to have to deal with that,

1902
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: and of course that's an ongoing expense. It never does

1903
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 1: go away so effectively, while most of our lives weren't

1904
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:34,719
Speaker 1: impacted by it, wor to some degree, we didn't save anything. No,

1905
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: so just making a point on that. Seventy five coming up,

1906
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to having Eric Conroy on the show.

1907
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: He's goin to come on the Empower You Summonar tonight again.

1908
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Empoweroamerica dot Org. Eric Conroy with the CIA for a

1909
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 1: long time. Yes, I'm going to ask him if the

1910
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: CIA got paid during the shutdown. But beyond that, we're

1911
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: going to learn who Eric is because I'm thinking, based

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Speaker 1: upon what I've read about him, he's a hell of

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Speaker 1: a lot better choice than Greg Landsman. That'll be next

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Speaker 1: Today's Tough Headlines coming eight six at fifty five Garric

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Speaker 1: de Talk Station. Friday Eve, last day of the week

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Speaker 1: for me. He got Gary Jeff Walker covering for me

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on Monday's vacation day be covered by Dan Carrier

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Speaker 1: in great Hands and Thanks to both of those guys,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for joining the fifty five Carcy this morning

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Speaker 1: to do the Take twenty seminar and empower Youoamerica dot org.

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Speaker 1: You'll find out some information about what's going on tonight.

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Speaker 1: Empower You Studios located at three hundred Great Oaks Drive.

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Speaker 1: You can show up live and in person at seven

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Speaker 1: pm when the kickoff time begins. We heard from Americans

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Speaker 1: were prosperity Donovan o'eil yesterday. He'll be talking about while

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Speaker 1: Hiowa's government is so overpriced compared to other state governments,

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Speaker 1: with some ideas from AFP on that. But you'll also

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Speaker 1: get the Take twenty which is a shorter little segment

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Speaker 1: by my guest this morning, and I'm so pleased to

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Speaker 1: have him on the morning show, Eric Conroy. He grew

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Speaker 1: up on the West Side, went to Elder High School.

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Speaker 1: I know that pleases my West Side friends. Apparently comes

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Speaker 1: from a military family. His grandfather, World War Two veteran,

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Speaker 1: convincing was the right thing to serve his country and

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Speaker 1: his community. He did so. After nine to eleven, he

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Speaker 1: graduated from the US Air Force Academy near the top

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Speaker 1: of his class, rose to the rank of Captain in

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Speaker 1: Special Operations Unit. Then he went on to this CIA

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Speaker 1: as a case officer, and that's what he's going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about tonight for the Empower You America Seminar

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Speaker 1: his time as a CIA case officer. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: It's a real pleasure to have you on and thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service for our country.

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Speaker 14: Eric Conroy, Hey, good morning, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Happy to a lot of my Westside friends are really

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Speaker 1: excited about I hate. A couple of people actually text

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Speaker 1: me yesterday and say, are you going to be talking

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Speaker 1: to Eric Conroy to Mark because he's doing an Empower

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Speaker 1: You seminar tomorrow and I'm like, okay, I think we are,

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Speaker 1: And of course Joe Strecker lined yup. First, I got

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Speaker 1: a couple of questions for you before we get I

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Speaker 1: want to deal a little bit with your campaign. You're

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Speaker 1: running against Greg Landsman, and all my listening audience, at

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Speaker 1: least the vast majority of them, are looking for an alternative.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to give them your campaign website. It's simple,

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Speaker 1: Ericconroy dot com. Boom right there, Meet the man, meet

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Speaker 1: the issues, learn all about him, and yes, you do

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Speaker 1: have a better alternative to Greg Landsman. But moving over

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Speaker 1: to your time with the CIA, I got a quote,

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Speaker 1: and you may take this the wrong way, Eric, I

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Speaker 1: have to ask you during the shutdown which just ended

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Speaker 1: last night, were the members in the CIA and the

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Speaker 1: CIA operations were they being funded or did they have

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Speaker 1: to take up pay freeze?

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Speaker 14: It really depends on what part right, And you're you're dedicated.

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Speaker 3: You're dedicated.

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Speaker 14: People in the field are working and.

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Speaker 5: Defending this country.

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Speaker 14: So it's not much different than how the military operates

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Speaker 14: in that regard, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's just more covert. And yeah, and while you

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Speaker 1: were with the CIA, because I have I know people

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Speaker 1: who worked for the CIA. I have a current I

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Speaker 1: will call him a distant relative by marriage who walks

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Speaker 1: around and says he's with the State Department, but he's

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Speaker 1: actually with the CIA. Did you go around telling everybody

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Speaker 1: with the State Department?

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Speaker 14: Eric, Yeah, Brian, I did some very great work for

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Speaker 14: our country overseas. I defended this country and it's it's

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Speaker 14: been a terrific experience of work for the c i

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Speaker 14: A the last well god seven years, and then the

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Speaker 14: Air Force for seven years before that. So there are

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Speaker 14: great dedicated men and women doing that work in harms

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Speaker 14: way overseas and I was really just proud and privileged

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Speaker 14: to be a part of it. It was a tremendous experience.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, as a litigation attorney, I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: move to strike, non responsive. I'm just giving you a

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Speaker 1: hard time. Eric, just I know, let's CIA get I'm

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Speaker 1: with the State Department. I had a college professor who

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Speaker 1: literally worked for the CIA said that you hear's somebody say,

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Speaker 1: with the State Department, you can pretty much bank on

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Speaker 1: the fact of the CIA. All right, moving away in

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Speaker 1: your time as a CIA case off operator, what will

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Speaker 1: your tasks? And I don't know how much detail you

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Speaker 1: can get into And you're gonna be talking about this tonight,

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Speaker 1: the empower you seminar, But how much detail you can

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Speaker 1: get into some of the type of operations you're involved in.

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Speaker 1: But I think everyone views the job is filled with

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Speaker 1: intrigue and you know, spying and all this. So what

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Speaker 1: did the job entail?

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Speaker 5: Eric?

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Speaker 14: It is, Well, Hey, what the CIA primarily does is

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Speaker 14: this is old school espanage, right, this is meeting people.

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Speaker 14: That's kind of like being a special journalist, Right. You

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Speaker 14: need to go out in the streets, meet people, understand

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Speaker 14: who they are and what they might have, and that

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Speaker 14: could be anyone from our foreign adversaries or tyrorist groups.

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Speaker 14: And you need to build relationships with people to get

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Speaker 14: information that will help protect this country. And I was

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Speaker 14: able to do that overseas, both in Eastern Europe and

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Speaker 14: in war zones. And it is very much different than

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Speaker 14: maybe other ways that the intelligence community may gain information,

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Speaker 14: such as pictures from satellite. So this is very old school. Yes,

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Speaker 14: it's very romantic, and there are a lot of great

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Speaker 14: movies on it as well. You might have seen Zero

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Speaker 14: doct thirty or maybe Bridge of Spies, of people going

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Speaker 14: out and building relationships and trying to convince people to

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Speaker 14: hopefully provide information. And I did that for about seven years.

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Speaker 14: It was absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's that it's human versus sigan. You got signal intelligence,

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Speaker 1: which is electronic gathering, electronic scooping up of information doesn't

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Speaker 1: involve human interaction. And that human intelligence component, which is

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Speaker 1: the old school way you're talking about, that's where you

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Speaker 1: were involved.

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Speaker 14: Exactly right, and you know the line, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 14: Human intelligence, which means they're using people as sources of information.

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Speaker 14: It's really not much different than being a journalist. Instead

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Speaker 14: of asking about you know, Joe Burrows tow you might

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Speaker 14: be asking someone about Iranian nuclear missiles. So when those

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Speaker 14: are the topics that are involved, the dynamics become much different.

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Speaker 14: And that's when you need to really start thinking about

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Speaker 14: what you're doing and how you're meeting people, because you

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Speaker 14: need to protect the safety of both yourself and whoever

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Speaker 14: you're talking to as a source to get that information

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Speaker 14: and keep everyone safe.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't this require the target of your efforts to develop

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Speaker 1: these relationships for them to let their guard down, Because

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Speaker 1: if I'm in your role, I'm going to be painfully

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Speaker 1: aware of what I'm doing, which is I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get my foot into the door in this person's world

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Speaker 1: so they trust me enough to hand off some information.

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Speaker 1: Aren't they in that position aware of people like you

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Speaker 1: out in the world trying to do that and so

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Speaker 1: their guard is perpetually up Or is this easier than

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Speaker 1: I might anticipate?

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Speaker 14: Well, you know, it's a people business, right, and it

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Speaker 14: takes getting to know people and relating to people and

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Speaker 14: understanding what their life is like and what they might

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Speaker 14: need and where they're at with their personal journey. So

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Speaker 14: it's no different than you know, pulling up to a

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Speaker 14: bar and talking to your buddies or talking to your friends. Right,

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Speaker 14: you have to be a good guy to be able

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Speaker 14: to talk to people like that, and people know, right,

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Speaker 14: it's really not rocket science. If you can build friends

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Speaker 14: as a salesman or as a really just a friend

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Speaker 14: and being a good family member and a good person,

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Speaker 14: you're probably actually going to be pretty decent at talking

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Speaker 14: to people from the other side to find out what's

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Speaker 14: going on.

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Speaker 1: How do you hone an awareness skill that like, for example,

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Speaker 1: I there's a double agent concept that person, let's say,

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Speaker 1: becomes aware or new from the get go that you

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Speaker 1: Eric Conroy, were actually a CIA operative of trying to

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Speaker 1: get your foot in the going to get information that

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Speaker 1: they don't feed you intentional wrong information or maybe give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of accurate information which use some

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Speaker 1: comfort that they're speaking truthfully only to steer you in

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Speaker 1: the wrong direction. That kind of thing goes on all

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Speaker 1: the time as well, doesn't it.

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Speaker 14: Well, you know, the intelli dis community as a whole,

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Speaker 14: think of it as like building a jigsaw puzzle, right,

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Speaker 14: and maybe me meeting somebody and finding out one piece

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Speaker 14: of information is going to go into a jigsaw puzzle

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Speaker 14: combined with a bunch of other sources like you mentioned

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Speaker 14: from sigan or imagery to con pile a picture on

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Speaker 14: a topic. So that is the goal of the intelligence

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Speaker 14: community is to gather information from a range of ways

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Speaker 14: and sources to build that picture on a topic. So

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Speaker 14: it's really never like a single single point of failure.

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Speaker 14: It shouldn't be right. It should be building that nosaic,

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Speaker 14: that jigsaw puzzle from a bunch of different angles to

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Speaker 14: find out what's really going on.

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Speaker 1: Well, and to the extent you were able to. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're still bound by some secrets or confidential

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Speaker 1: audity rules or correct me if I'm wrong, if you're not,

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Speaker 1: But can you put an illustration together of how this

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Speaker 1: works a particular operation maybe you were involved with, or

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Speaker 1: how you got from point A to point B where

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Speaker 1: you can say, yes, I was successful in achieving the

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Speaker 1: goal that I was assigned to. Is it possible for

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Speaker 1: you to do that in a real context.

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Speaker 14: I'll talk about it in a round about way. And

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Speaker 14: what what it is is, it's it's no different than

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Speaker 14: really being a salesman. Right, you have a sales process.

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Speaker 14: Let's say you have you have a lead for a

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Speaker 14: maybe to make a particular sale, and you meet that

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Speaker 14: person and you cultivate a relationship and you be friends

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Speaker 14: with them, and you try to figure out if one

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Speaker 14: you're you're going to be good friends, because that's first

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Speaker 14: and foremost how anything else in life works. But also

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Speaker 14: you figure out there's a good professional fit. So it's

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Speaker 14: really not much different than a sales cycle in a

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Speaker 14: lot of ways.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to imagine this scenario. How you would

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Speaker 1: you would start this process. Are you placed in a

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Speaker 1: particular business or industry where you're assigned to a role as, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's the director of you you know, HR or something

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Speaker 1: which puts you in a position to interact with the

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Speaker 1: folks you're trying to spy on. Is this just like

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Speaker 1: running into someone at a bar kind of thing? You

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Speaker 1: know where they're going to be and you show up

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Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, can I buy you a beer?

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Speaker 1: I guess contextually speaking, I'm wondering how this process begins.

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean, I'm not going to talk about too

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Speaker 14: many specifics because I can't go into too many details,

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Speaker 14: but it can arise in a very varied, varied ways. Right,

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Speaker 14: There are many different ways, so you can hopefully build

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Speaker 14: a relationship with someone and move it to the next level.

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Speaker 1: This is I am thoroughly convinced, Eric, and I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling you're not gonna be able to answer this

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Speaker 1: one or all. But it seems so obvious to me.

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Speaker 1: We keep spending billions of dollars to keep the UN open,

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Speaker 1: and I keep wondering what we can show for the

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Speaker 1: money that we've spent, And the only thing I can

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Speaker 1: conclude is that it's a wonderful source, a resource for

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Speaker 1: us to gather secrets and information from foreign nationals, and

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Speaker 1: that's why we pay the bill. It's a spy operation.

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Speaker 1: Any truth that Are you going to dodge that one?

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Speaker 14: Eric, The UN is a radical leftist institution that we

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Speaker 14: maybe consider cutting some funny for so I'm in that camp.

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Speaker 14: The UN has been particularly in did a lot of

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Speaker 14: things over the years. You probably use less funding as

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Speaker 14: opposed to more funding.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm going to go with a yes

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Speaker 1: on that one as well. Like this, like the estate

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Speaker 1: Department answer, and now moving over to your campaign, ericconroyd

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Speaker 1: dot com. People get all the information and I hope Eric,

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Speaker 1: you and I'll be talking quite a few times before

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Speaker 1: next year's election because my listening audience and I would

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Speaker 1: like to unsee Greg Lansman and you may be demand

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Speaker 1: for the job. So if you really had to pinpoint

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Speaker 1: something that is near and dear to your heart, what's

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Speaker 1: driving you to run for Congress? Among all these issues transportation, infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: border security, neighborhoods, jobs, economy, what's Eric Conroy's main goal

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Speaker 1: to at once elected to Congress?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 14: Well, I have become concerned and passionate about the economic

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Speaker 14: and social trajectory of this region for some time and

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Speaker 14: believe we need the common sense representative to take it

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Speaker 14: into the future. Right, we just saw our incumbent Democrat

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Speaker 14: vote no to reopen the government along with this radical

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Speaker 14: leftist Cronius to gain really very little if any political

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Speaker 14: leverage in the process to appease their radical leftist base.

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Speaker 14: And to me, you just demonstrate that Greg Lansman is

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Speaker 14: not the moderate he claims. It's not the moderate Democrat

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Speaker 14: he claims, and he is unfit to lead. What we

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Speaker 14: need here is we need a leader to make common

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Speaker 14: sense decisions for this region and I hope to bring

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Speaker 14: that next year.

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Speaker 5: And this is not Great Landsman.

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Speaker 1: I agree completely with that. So as we move forward

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Speaker 1: toward the election, hopefully get Eric ond you get to

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Speaker 1: come on the program again. We'll talk about issues as

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Speaker 1: we move forward toward next year.

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Speaker 14: Eric, Yeah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: That's yes, all right. Got an ask out of Eric

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Speaker 1: Conroy Ericconroy dot com and log in tonight from home

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Speaker 1: or show up at three hundred grede Oaks drive to

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Speaker 1: the Empower Youth Seminar where you can hear Eric with

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Speaker 1: his take twenty plus again Donald and Neil from Americans

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01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: for Prosperity about overpriced government here in the state of

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Speaker 1: Ohio tonight at seven pm. Make sure you're registered though

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Speaker 1: eight seventeen right now fifty five KRC the talk station

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Speaker 1: don't go way fifty five KRC after sixty years. So

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Speaker 1: did you hear? Yes? And those answers? I did. Hated

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Speaker 1: me to give him a hard time though, but come on,

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Speaker 1: State Department, Kaddy said, yeah, that's what we call ourselves,

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Speaker 1: members of the State Department. I had no doubt that

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Speaker 1: he would conclude that the CIA serves the American interest

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Speaker 1: in some capacity or another. Anyhow, fun stuff with Eric Conroy,

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Speaker 1: and we'll give him a fair shake since he is

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Speaker 1: running against Landsman, and I checked out his issues. He

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Speaker 1: seems to me in the right space, our right page

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Speaker 1: in terms of all the issues my listening audience cares about.

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Speaker 1: UH five. On three seven and two three Talk, we'll

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Speaker 1: be talking about the twenty twenty five US National Steinholding

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Speaker 1: Championships in the next segment with Mike Kisel, one of

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Speaker 1: the those German guy guys. Mike Kaisel is going to

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Speaker 1: return to the program along with Ben Huffman, the executive

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Speaker 1: director of the Cincinne Regional Sports Commission, putting Cincinnati on

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Speaker 1: the map. We don't need the Olympics now, we don't

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Speaker 1: need an NC two A final. We've got the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five US National Steinhold Holding Championships going on. It's

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Speaker 1: far more important and something that's frightening, truly frightening. I've

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Speaker 1: seen quite a few articles of late about grades. For example,

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Speaker 1: one that just recently showed up, just a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago. Harvard says it's handing out too many a's students.

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Speaker 1: A little upset about that grade inflation a massive problem.

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Speaker 1: Harvard just one of just any number of schools, if

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Speaker 1: not all of them, who've inflated grades so sixty percent

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Speaker 1: of every graduate out of Harvard has got basically straight a's.

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Speaker 1: Harvard report on its undergraduate college found that about sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of grades were a's during the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: to twenty five high school year. Our school year, I

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Speaker 1: jumped from only twenty five percent a mere twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem. If you find Elisa Finley's off that

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Speaker 1: piece from the ninth of November, grade inflation produced Mom

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Speaker 1: Domni's proletariat. She had an interesting sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: Too.

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Speaker 1: Many young college graduates are unemployed. They aren't willing or

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Speaker 1: able to do the jobs that are available. They went

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Speaker 1: and got a degree that is valueless in society, and

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Speaker 1: they realize they can't get a job, their dream job,

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Speaker 1: but they're unwilling to lift a finger of work. And

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Speaker 1: she says, you know, a lot of these young people

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Speaker 1: their parents pay for college and they can go work

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Speaker 1: in their live in their parents' house. But some of

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Speaker 1: them are going to have to actually go out and

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Speaker 1: work and it's really angering them. So, according to her

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Speaker 1: analysis October twenty twenty four, to thirty point four percent

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Speaker 1: of young people age twenty to twenty nine years old

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Speaker 1: who earned bachelor's degrees. We're not working. That isn't we're

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Speaker 1: not working in the field of their degree. It's they

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Speaker 1: just were not working compared with twenty one point nine

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Speaker 1: percent of those who had earned their associate degrees during

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Speaker 1: the same period, a lesser degree of course, more people

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Speaker 1: working though anyway. And then this figure that I read

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Speaker 1: article yesterday from David Storm. You see San Diego University

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Speaker 1: of California, San Diego incoming students can't do basic math.

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Speaker 1: Headline on that one, they says math professors are ringing

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Speaker 1: alarm bells about the disastrous decline in students' ability to

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Speaker 1: do even basic math. Get a load of this one.

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Speaker 1: Almost fifteen percent of incoming students, this is college incoming

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Speaker 1: college You see San Diego students cannot perform math at

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Speaker 1: a first grade level. Doubling down, Fewer than one in

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Speaker 1: five can even perform math at an eighth grade level.

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Speaker 1: Fewer than one in five. Now, going back to grade

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Speaker 1: inflation within colleges, isn't this an indication of grade inflation

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Speaker 1: in high school? If you got a diploma, which obviously

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Speaker 1: is a is a necessary thing to get into a college,

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Speaker 1: whether it's UC, San Diego, University of Cincinnati. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have that high school certificate. It suggests that you've done

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Speaker 1: work that brings you up to a grade twelve level understanding.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got acd's and SATs that used to

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Speaker 1: weed people out who didn't have that, But they don't

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Speaker 1: even use those anymore. So that's how you can have

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Speaker 1: college age kids who can't even perform math at a

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Speaker 1: first grade level. That there's one of them is insane

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Speaker 1: to me. How did that person get into college? We

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Speaker 1: are dumbing down America's young people. That may be intentional,

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Speaker 1: because you know, a domb young person who's afraid of working,

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Speaker 1: like the other articles suggested, who doesn't like the idea

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Speaker 1: of even working at all. That is a mechanism. As

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Speaker 1: she concluded, Great Inflation produced mom Dommy's proletariat the headline,

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Speaker 1: you end up voting for someone who promises to give

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Speaker 1: you free stuff and things because well, so far, I

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Speaker 1: guess things haven't worked out real well for you. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes the reason it didn't work out real well for

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01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 1: you look in the mirror. That's what high school was

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Speaker 1: four learning basic math. How did you make it even

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Speaker 1: to a freshman in high school if you can't perform

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Speaker 1: math at a grade one level. A twenty six fifty

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Speaker 1: five KR city talk station, beer Steinholding, the Nationals coming

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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. Mi Kaislin Ben Hoffman up next, that we

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Speaker 1: can stick around fifty five. It's a thirty here, fifty

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Speaker 1: five krsity talk station. Something German must be going on

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Speaker 1: strek or putting on the German bumper music. Oh, that's right,

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Speaker 1: putting Cincinnati on the global Matt, Welcome to the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRSSEE Morning Show. Welcome back, I should say, Mike

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Speaker 1: Kaisel from one of those German guys. Just search those

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Speaker 1: German guys on Facebook. You'll run into them and all

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Speaker 1: the German stuff that they're all about. And Ben Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: executive director of the Cincinnati Regional Sports Commission, joining the

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Speaker 1: morning show today to talk about the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: US National Steinholding Championship. Welcome gentlemen, it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show today. Good Thomas en Ecaba, definitely man.

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Speaker 15: Thanks for having us on. I appreciate it. It's always

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Speaker 15: good to get with you and talk about a little

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Speaker 15: bit in German heritage. And like you said, this is

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Speaker 15: more special than the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: It is. Who needs the NC two A or the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: It costs a whole lot of money. You're left with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of complexes you paid for that no one

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Speaker 1: uses anymore. And this does not require much beyond I guess,

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Speaker 1: just some space and some beer steins and of course

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Speaker 1: the beer that goes in it. But this is not

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Speaker 1: for novices. This actually is a difficult, difficult, challenging thing specifically. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about first. The US Steinholding Association. Is that's

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Speaker 1: actually a thing and it exists. Is this a global organization?

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Speaker 15: It's a national here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hence the name.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 15: So this German guy started with them.

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Speaker 16: In twenty twenty one, we did the original State of

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Speaker 16: Ohio champions we've run it ever since then.

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Speaker 15: Now you know, we've kind of moved around venue to venue.

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Speaker 15: The last two years we've been down at the beautiful

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Speaker 15: multi million.

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Speaker 16: Dollar Moreline Launderhouse facility with Greg Hardman, and he really

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Speaker 16: helps us put on a show.

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Speaker 15: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Well, and then we got go ahead, are you team

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Speaker 1: double them again this year for the event? Correct?

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 16: We did the state championship twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 16: and then we put our hat in the ring because

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Speaker 16: there are other states that wanted the national championship, but

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Speaker 16: well and we were fortunate enough to land that here,

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Speaker 16: to bring that to the Cincinnati and Ben.

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Speaker 5: Huffman was a big.

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Speaker 15: Part of that with the Cincinnati Regional Sports Commission.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Ben your work on that. And of course,

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Speaker 1: did our German heritage have anything to do with or

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with our getting this championship here

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Speaker 1: this coming up?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that to a degree, it does.

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Speaker 16: I mean, you know they look at everything, you know,

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Speaker 16: Willie and I am this Terman guys, and.

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Speaker 3: Then sleep with Greg.

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Speaker 15: You know, we've really done a good job putting on

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Speaker 15: the state championship.

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Speaker 16: So coupled that with the German heritage here in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 16: I mean, you know, it's kind of a win win,

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Speaker 16: and how can you go into place else? All?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Now, how does this competition work? It's taking place again

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Speaker 1: at the Moreline House on Saturday the twenty second are

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Speaker 1: the Is this a team sport? Is it an individual sport?

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Speaker 1: Are the different components of that? Are people still able

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Speaker 1: to participate? Let's get all the details of how this

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Speaker 1: actually works. I guess what does the event? Let's start

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Speaker 1: with what the event entails.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so.

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Speaker 16: We've had state championships all across the United States. There's

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Speaker 16: fifteen states that compete in this, and they've had people

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Speaker 16: that you know, qualified to compete at the state level,

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Speaker 16: and then the winners of the state competitions then proceed

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Speaker 16: to come here for the national championship. So this is

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Speaker 16: an individual sport. We have a women's division and a

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Speaker 16: men's division.

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Speaker 15: So the winner of that here on.

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Speaker 16: The twenty second for the national championship. This is the

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Speaker 16: inaugural national championship to us seineholding.

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Speaker 15: This is the first one they've thought, so it's kind

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Speaker 15: of a big deal that we got at it as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.

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02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 15: Whoever wins that.

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02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, men and women they get bragging rights as national

2349
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 16: championship trophies and each the men and the women first

2350
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:23,240
Speaker 16: places four thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, So boiling this down. If we show up

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02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 1: at this event, this is like showing up at the

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02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 1: first super Bowl. It is wow. Well, my dad had

2354
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: a pennant from that one. He was at the first

2355
02:02:37,680 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and that was kind of bragging, right, So

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02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:41,080
Speaker 1: are you guys gonna have T shirts for this event?

2357
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:42,840
Speaker 1: So we can all prove that we were there for

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02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 1: the first super Bowl of Steinholding.

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Speaker 15: We do have T shirts available.

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02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 16: We also have a commemorative glass leader Steins, as well

2361
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 16: as pint glasses and coffee cups, so if you're not

2362
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 16: a beer drinker or prefer coffee, we also have the

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02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:01,000
Speaker 16: US Spineholding National championsh Coffee.

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Speaker 15: Months as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, so, as I understand the week, the chaff

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02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 1: has already been separated ro out. This isn't something someone

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02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:08,080
Speaker 1: can sign up for to participate in on the twenty

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02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 1: second you've got all the players there. Has this event

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02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 1: made it over to the sportsbook betting sites yet, fellas.

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02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 6: No, not quite.

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02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:22,920
Speaker 1: I expect to see it there though. Hold on, I'll

2372
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: tell you it because it is my version of the

2373
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 1: final day of the week. Since I'm taking some vacation time,

2374
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 1: I like to talk about this fun event. I would

2375
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: have find out. Actually what the competition involves is where

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02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:34,600
Speaker 1: a world record for this kind of thing? Let's pause

2377
02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:36,200
Speaker 1: if you guys, don't mind them and bring it right in.

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Speaker 1: You've read about it in Obscure Sports Quarterly, you watch

2379
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: it on the OCHO or of course talking about the

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Speaker 1: Steinholding events and coming up with the twenty second of

2381
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Speaker 1: this month, the first Super Bowl of Steinholding, the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five US National Steinholding Championships. Joining me to talk

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Speaker 1: about this one of those Germans guys you can find

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02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: them on Facebook, Mike Heisel and Ben Huffman, who's the

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02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 1: executive director of the Sinceinn Regional Sports Commission. They've all

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02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 1: teamed up along with some other folks like, for example,

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02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,520
Speaker 1: the more Line House and since Ant Chris Kendallmark to

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02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: do this championship, which we're all going to want to attend.

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02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 1: Before we can break down the events in the order

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02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:17,000
Speaker 1: of things that are taking place on the twenty second, guys,

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Speaker 1: I got to ask, is there first a regulation? There

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02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: has to be a regulation sort of size weight stein.

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02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,879
Speaker 1: It's uniform correct, correct?

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02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 15: This your typical one leader.

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02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:32,880
Speaker 16: Glass templed stein, so those are all weigh the same

2396
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 16: approximately when it's full of beer, it's five pounds. So

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02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 16: if your listeners aren't familiar with this, I know I've

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02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 16: been on before talking about it, you have to. You're like,

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02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 16: you have the leader stein sitting in front of you

2400
02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 16: on a table, the competitors standing behind the table. They

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02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,480
Speaker 16: have to stand upright, pick up the beer steining with

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02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:51,840
Speaker 16: either their left or right hand and hold it straight out.

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02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 15: They're not allowed it been back they you know, can't

2404
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:55,000
Speaker 15: move the stein.

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02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 16: It has to be you know, pretty much arm straight

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02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 16: holding that leader of beer steined out. One interesting thing

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02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 16: about this is Kim Planner has won the state championship

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02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 16: here in Ohio the past five years that we've done it.

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02:05:08,200 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 15: He also won this year, and he is qualified.

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02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 16: He's representing he's from Cincinnati here and he's representing more

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02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:18,160
Speaker 16: Line Loggerhouse in the national championship. So come down and

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02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 16: cheer Kim on and hopefully he can bring him the

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02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 16: national championship here to Cincinnati.

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02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 1: Well do you And I hate to put you on

2415
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 1: the spot, but I got to ask because I'm looking

2416
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 1: at what is described, at least in terms of the

2417
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence response. I got on Google the US record,

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02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: what is his steinholding time? Do you recall buy any

2419
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: bunny chance?

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02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:40,760
Speaker 16: Kim usually goes between nine and twelve minutes. They've had

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02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 16: some people in Texas go for as long as you know,

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02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 16: twenty twenty four minutes.

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02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 5: But with the.

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02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 16: US stineholding with they're pretty strict on the regulations on

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02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,120
Speaker 16: your form, so they don't you know, allow you to

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02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 16: deviate as some of the other organizations do. So some

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02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 16: of the organizations are looking for time and they don't

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02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:03,400
Speaker 16: really care about form. So the US Stineholding Association's pretty strict.

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02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 5: On the judging with your form.

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02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 1: That's great that they have these kind of rules. It

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02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 1: just cracks me up, guys, it really does. Now there

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02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 1: are steinholding or actually stein carrying events, and I noted

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02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 1: that at least online they say the Guinness War Record

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02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 1: for the most steins carried over forty meters, and you

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02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 1: mentioned they're five pounds each. Twenty nine steins is the

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02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 1: record for men and nineteen steins for women, and that's

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Speaker 1: a carrying. I just can't imagine that because I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at photographs of these guys with all these bunched up

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02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 1: steins that that can't be easy, but neither can the

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02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 1: competition you guys are doing, so it's not a carry contest.

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02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Moving over to the twenty second I see that things

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02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 1: start kicking kicked off around ten am. Walk my listeners

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02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 1: through what they're going to be able to see and

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02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:52,960
Speaker 1: participate in during the day.

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02:06:54,160 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 16: So we are going to have the FC Byron match

2446
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:59,040
Speaker 16: on from sc Byron's Munich soccer team. We're going to

2447
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:02,160
Speaker 16: have that in the fest tent. Greg is putting up

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02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 16: a huge festent. Like we said, this takes place during

2449
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:08,280
Speaker 16: the opening weekend of Cincinnati Chris Kenelmark.

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02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 15: So I mean that's an event in and of itself

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02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 15: that you don't.

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02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 16: Want to miss because they have German booze and food,

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02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 16: and you know, there's a bunch of stuff going on

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02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 16: with the Christmas market. You know, come down to your

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02:07:18,760 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 16: Christmas shopping and enjoy the stiny. But we have the

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Speaker 16: Byron Match starting at nine point thirty. We also have

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Speaker 16: a riverfront volks March. Of volks March is just a

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Speaker 16: leisurely walk. You can sign up to do that. It's

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02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:34,040
Speaker 16: five dollars per person to walk. It's about like a five.

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Speaker 10: K on that.

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Speaker 16: Then noon to two we had the Byron Games. We

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02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,920
Speaker 16: did that when FC Byron came to town, and since

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Speaker 16: we're running the Byron Match.

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02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:45,080
Speaker 15: On TV, we're going to do that afterward. If your

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02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 15: listeners would like to participate in that, they can do that.

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Speaker 1: This is great.

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Speaker 16: Before noon, there's three events. It's a beer decal flip,

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Speaker 16: you know, like the little beer coasters you stack those

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02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,120
Speaker 16: up and you flip those and catch them, and whoever

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02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 16: catches the most without it hitting the table wins that event.

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Speaker 15: Well, we're gonna do it as a team event. And

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02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 15: then we have that hammer slogging.

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02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:10,080
Speaker 16: That's where there's a stump and you take a hammer

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02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 16: and drive the nail into the.

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Speaker 5: Stump.

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02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 16: Fewst hits wins that. And then we also have a

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Speaker 16: team steinholding.

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02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 15: So you don't really you can get a little bit

2479
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Speaker 15: of a taste of it, being it's a team sport,

2480
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:25,240
Speaker 15: you know, the one person goes as long as they

2481
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 15: can with the stein.

2482
02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 16: When they're done, they set it down and their teammate

2483
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 16: behind them kicks it up and goes on. And then

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Speaker 16: the winner of that will get bragging rights for the

2485
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:36,920
Speaker 16: Fyron Championship. Then after that, two to three we have

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Speaker 16: a ceremonial kaya of course you do, of course we do. Yeah,

2487
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 16: of course, right, Greg is drilling his Chris Kendle beer,

2488
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 16: so we're gonna tap that down at more Line.

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02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 15: That's exclusive to Moreline Lockerhouse.

2490
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 16: It's a fantastic Christmas beer, so you're not gonna want

2491
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 16: to miss that. Three to four we have the Celebrity

2492
02:08:56,680 --> 02:09:00,160
Speaker 16: Steinholding Challenge, so Brian, if you're interested, we'd love to

2493
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 16: have you come down and participate in that. We're gonna

2494
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 16: have local celebrities go head to head, just in a

2495
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:07,400
Speaker 16: fun steinholding challenge for them.

2496
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 15: Then it gets serious.

2497
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 16: Four to six we kick off the national Steinholding women

2498
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 16: go first, of course, and then after that we have

2499
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:18,520
Speaker 16: the men's national Championship.

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02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,000
Speaker 15: Followed by that we have an award ceremony.

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02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 16: We are gonna have the DJ all day long playing music,

2502
02:09:25,240 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 16: and then from seven to ten.

2503
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 15: We have a live band. We have Snightily Whiplash.

2504
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 16: And they're gonna perform and we're gonna close out the

2505
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 16: party with them out in the fest tent.

2506
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 15: Now, Greg is putting up a huge fest hint.

2507
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:39,880
Speaker 16: It has a wooden floor, it has heaters, so you're

2508
02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 16: gonna be cozy inside the fest tent. I mean, this

2509
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:45,720
Speaker 16: is just like a beer ten in Munich, Germany. It's

2510
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 16: got a wooden floor and everything to it. It's gonna

2511
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 16: have a bar inside. We have a planter from Munich

2512
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:54,160
Speaker 16: is gonna we have a plana on tap, and there's

2513
02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 16: food boots inside the tent as well, so you're not

2514
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 16: gonna wanna miss it.

2515
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:00,120
Speaker 1: It's a fantastic combat well, and I asked, just you're

2516
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 1: to put all the details up at fifty five cars

2517
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:05,839
Speaker 1: dot com, the links how people can get the rundown,

2518
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 1: and also helping you out in that event, help my

2519
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: listeners out because it's going to be a hell of

2520
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 1: a good time. Ben Huffan's been kind of quiet there

2521
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 1: as a Cincinnati Regional Sports Commission executive director, do you

2522
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 1: market this kind of thing? I mean, there's always little

2523
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 1: things that point out that Cincinnati is a unique place,

2524
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 1: it's a fun place. You might want to investigate it.

2525
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 1: This is such a fun event, and I know it's

2526
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:27,840
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily done in Jess, but the Super Bowl

2527
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:31,280
Speaker 1: of Steinholding. Is this a good marketing effort for you?

2528
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:33,320
Speaker 1: And what other kinds of things do you engage in

2529
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:36,560
Speaker 1: throughout the year as Cincinnai Regional Sports Commission executive director

2530
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:38,160
Speaker 1: to put Cincinnati on the mac.

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02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 6: Ben, Yeah, thank you so much so. The Cincinnai Sports

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02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 6: Commission started just this summer. We're brand new, we're six

2533
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 6: months in. First week on the job. Greg Hartman called

2534
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:49,840
Speaker 6: me and talked about this event and our concept here

2535
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 6: is to kind of own something on the banks of

2536
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:55,280
Speaker 6: the Ohio that is a tradition for the city and

2537
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,920
Speaker 6: there is a sports component, so we got involved. We

2538
02:10:57,960 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 6: look at an event like Nathan's Hot Dog, like local

2539
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 6: what they've done out there, that's been a you know,

2540
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 6: recurring event that happens every year where people come in

2541
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 6: and check it out. So we're trying to help blow

2542
02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 6: this up with those German guys, with the Moreland lagger House,

2543
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 6: with the Steinholding folks truly make this a unique opportunity.

2544
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 6: And then obviously on the back end from the sports

2545
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 6: commission side, we do all sorts of amateur events. So

2546
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:20,800
Speaker 6: we have a big fencing event coming to the convention

2547
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 6: Center in February, a volleyball tournament come to the comvention

2548
02:11:23,080 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 6: Center in March, and then we're going after some large,

2549
02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 6: high impact events like the Rugby World Cup that just

2550
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 6: got announced as we're an applicant city now for that,

2551
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 6: so we are going up to those large impact events,

2552
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 6: but unique opportunities like this to showcase our city is

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Speaker 6: a place that can host large events helps us long

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Speaker 6: term go after other things as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I suppose once that convention Center work it's done,

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Speaker 1: that's going to even create greater opportunities for folks to

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Speaker 1: consider Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's great, and that's actually a good tie in

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Speaker 6: with this event. So the Elm Street Plaza opens that weekend,

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Speaker 6: so the ice rinks moving from Fountain Square to Elm

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Speaker 6: Street Plaza. You know, this weekend, while the Steinholding's going

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Speaker 6: on Sunday, we have the Bengals at one, we have

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Speaker 6: Messi coming to play FC at five on Sunday, We've

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Speaker 6: got signholding on Saturday, We've got the Winterhouse at Fountain

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Speaker 6: Square opening, and just the Cities Beer Live. That whole

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Speaker 6: weekend really showcase what we can do as a community

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Speaker 6: to host guests and I think help us both on

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Speaker 6: the tourism side, but then on the sports mission side

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and can I ask you FC Cincinnati. I'm a

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Speaker 1: no soccer football fan of I. I mean this just me,

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Speaker 1: but when the whole concept started, I was pleased that

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Speaker 1: didn't involve a tremendous amount of tax for your dollars.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, it's a little skeptical that was

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Speaker 1: going to work out. Apparently it has blown up. That

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Speaker 1: has Has it been more successful than you anticipated it

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Speaker 1: to be?

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Speaker 6: Just from your perspective, Ben, Yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 6: there was a definite need for a soccer team in town.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we have so many young professionals that that's

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Speaker 6: their passion. Yeah, and the ability for that team to

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Speaker 6: win and invest and grow and do things up a

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Speaker 6: Tequel stadium is amazing. I mean, and then they host

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Speaker 6: so many other events. I had the opportunity to go

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Speaker 6: see the women's national team come in. You know, we're

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Speaker 6: working from the sports mission side with the folks at

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Speaker 6: TIQOL and FC on other opportunities to use that venue

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Speaker 6: to again drive people downtown, spend money in businesses, and

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Speaker 6: they're definitely a community partner. So it's been They've been great.

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Speaker 1: Oh it spurred some investment in the West End too,

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Speaker 1: so it's all, it's all been good. I am. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to take back some of the sort of

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Speaker 1: negative comments I made about it conceptually, because who am

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Speaker 1: I I'm just again, I'm glad it seems to be

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Speaker 1: working out, and I'm glad we are hosting the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl of steinholding Championships again. All the information fifty five

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Speaker 1: carecy dot com. I hope you have as good a

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Speaker 1: time doing the event, and I hope the event goes

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Speaker 1: off as well as I anticipated. It just sounds like

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Speaker 1: so much fun, Mike and Ben, and can't thank you

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Speaker 1: enough for sharing all the information with my listeners and

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Speaker 1: I today, and we'll be doing we'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: this again next year, although given now that there's going

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Speaker 1: to be more competition, this super Bowl will be moving

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Speaker 1: around from two different venues as it has before, as

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Speaker 1: these competitions for or we're keeping it.

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Speaker 6: We've actually locked it in. We've locked it in for

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Speaker 6: a three year guarantee, three year right a versious usual

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Speaker 6: after oh again. Our concept here is to own this

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Speaker 6: in Cincinnati for as long as it makes sense for us.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely love it, guys, thanks for the work you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Have a hell of a good time, and my listeners,

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Speaker 1: get on over to the event. You'll absolutely love it.

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Speaker 1: And get yourself a T shirt to say that you

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Speaker 1: were there and you were there for the first one.

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Speaker 1: Eight forty nine videbok Se Talk Station. Got a minute

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