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Speaker 2: Hi, bye, hello, ye after four, This is ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: If you watched the college basketball game last night NC

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Speaker 2: State in Texas, you heard another set of commentators talk

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Speaker 2: about how broken the sport is. But they got a

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Speaker 2: Five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. We have

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Speaker 2: folks who have been waiting patiently. Let's take their phone call.

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Speaker 3: Nick.

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Speaker 1: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Nick, Good afternoon. How are

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Speaker 1: you good afternoon?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 3: First of all, can we get some guests the foot

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Speaker 3: in honor of opening day next week?

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Speaker 1: You know what we can?

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Speaker 2: We we are, yes we can, and because we actually

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Speaker 2: not going to be on the rest of the week

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Speaker 2: in the afternoon, so early next week we will have

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Speaker 2: to kick off the baseball season. We will have some

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Speaker 3: Awesome, my buddies and I love us, And get the

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Speaker 1: You're you're the ones.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, you had a caller on Monday that that

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Speaker 3: commented on kind of the the staleness uh in the

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Speaker 3: to Anthony Grant from one flyer, from one flyer and

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Speaker 3: I'm alum to another and and you made a perfect

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Speaker 3: point on this the other day. He he Anthony Grant

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Speaker 3: does mean a lot to us up here in Dayton,

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Speaker 3: and you know, as he's a he's you can't get

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Speaker 3: classier than Anthony Grant. As far as I'm concerned, I

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Speaker 3: do agree there there's been a lot of as we've

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Speaker 3: player and in this era of the transfer portal. You know,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on if he sticks around another year,

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Speaker 3: would we do you think we'd see a very similar

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Speaker 2: I think the easy answer is I would expect more

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Speaker 2: You know, year in and year out, they win twenty games,

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Speaker 2: year in and year out, you feel like they've got

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Speaker 2: know how that changes if everything structurally remains the same. Now,

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Speaker 2: like the last four Dayton teams have looked and felt

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think there's there's some truth to that.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you know, let's just say, and hopefully

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Speaker 3: Grant is no longer fit to be the head coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on anything, but I'm not an

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Speaker 2: They got a guy who historically has been good at

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Speaker 2: Just the foot will happen. I promise Karen get working

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Speaker 2: Dayton does play in Peoria tonight against Bradley and the niit.

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Speaker 2: I think the name Luke Murray is interesting. Luke Murray

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there have been offers or interviews that have

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Speaker 2: Like I said this last week, and I get accused

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Speaker 1: But it's a good gig.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if it comes open, uh, twelve minutes after

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Good afternoon, Mike, Thank you, mom.

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Speaker 5: How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, man, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Cool? Opening day? Now, I'll get to the march Panders.

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Speaker 5: Opening day. We have Garrett Crochet, the American League leader

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Speaker 2: Mo Oh, dude, Garrett Crochet is Garrett Crochet is awesome.

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Speaker 2: concerned about how Andrew Abbott has pitched during spring training. Now,

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Speaker 2: Matt McLean's with a grain of salt, will take bad

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Speaker 5: I do too, and I don't. I've just learned over

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Speaker 1: So do I so do I?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they pet for the rich. I got micked, I

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Speaker 4: his contract. But that's what's happening with Wes right now.

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Speaker 1: What things besides money could they be discussing.

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Speaker 4: He's got a great leg to stand on as far

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Speaker 4: as money. He's not being fired, you know, four clause,

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Speaker 4: so that he has no reason to say to say

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Speaker 4: yes to any reduction to his buyouts, so he should

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Speaker 4: be safe there. But you know what public statement is

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Speaker 4: going to be put out None disparagement. You know between

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Speaker 4: the two parties. You're not saying anything negative about Wes

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Speaker 4: or him say anything negative about UC. Very unlikely he

447
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Speaker 4: has any sort of non compete clause in there should

448
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Speaker 4: be a moot point for UC. Anyway they want to

449
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Speaker 4: wash their hands in the West Miller era and this

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Speaker 4: in a classy way and move on. So small matters

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Speaker 4: or what are going to be negotiated. This would let

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Speaker 4: this would already be announced if it's buyout, weren't going

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Speaker 4: to be going down on April first.

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Speaker 2: If a coach hasn't legally been let go, can a

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Speaker 2: school legally do a coaching surge for his replacement?

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Speaker 4: Yes, certainly they can. It's a regular part of an

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Speaker 4: administrative duty for any athletic director and program to do that. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: they can handle things from an administrative role. And you know,

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Speaker 4: contact candidates, conduct interviews, negotiate for a new head coach.

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Speaker 4: They absolutely can do that very well within their rights.

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Speaker 2: Attorney Stewart W. Penrose from the Manila Law Group is

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Speaker 2: with us. I know you're all excited for March Madness VCU,

463
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Speaker 2: your alma mater is going to play North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you got to be excited.

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Speaker 2: My flyers couldn't make a free throw against him, So

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Speaker 2: I'll be rooting for the Rams against against UNC. But

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Speaker 2: there is a legal issue your support. Yay, we'll give

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Speaker 2: it to you. I got my bear Cats aren't in it.

469
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Speaker 2: My flyers aren't in it, so I'm all about the Rams.

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Speaker 2: There is a legal issue hovering over one of the

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Speaker 2: teams Alabama. So Aiden Holloway, one of their start players,

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Speaker 2: arrested on a felony drug possession on Monday morning. He

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Speaker 2: has been suspended. I guess he was discovered with an

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Speaker 2: amount of marijuana over two point two pounds, So this

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Speaker 2: makes it, I guess, a felony. Uh, he's not going

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Speaker 2: to play at least at the outset for Alabama in

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. Is it just the amount of pot

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Speaker 2: that he had what makes pot possession rise to the

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Speaker 2: level of a felony offense?

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Speaker 4: Sure, the amount of it. Certainly. Alabama also does not

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Speaker 4: have recreational marijuana. They have a very small medical marijuana program,

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Speaker 4: that is it. And two pounds is a lot of

483
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Speaker 4: weighted mount I mean someone said there are great Saint

484
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Speaker 4: Patrick stay there certainly, So yes, I mean the amount

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Speaker 4: of it. The prosecutors are claiming that it's a mount

486
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Speaker 4: that's that has been intend to distribute. His lawyers disputing that.

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Speaker 4: There's also an issue of not having a special tax

488
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Speaker 4: stamp to it to essentially show that, uh you know

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Speaker 4: that had that he that he paid the state of

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Speaker 4: Alabama taxes on it. Uh. Like I said, Alabama only

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Speaker 4: has a small medical marijuana program. The only way you're

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Speaker 4: going to have a tax stamp is if you legally

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Speaker 4: bought medical marijuanas in the state of Alabama. So that

494
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Speaker 4: certainly doesn't apply here. It'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 4: it plays out, not just for not just for the kid,

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Speaker 4: but for Alabama as well. Uh, let's be honest, as

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Speaker 4: it is not the first uh you know, the first

498
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Speaker 4: issue of controversy or basketball program has undergone in the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years. By far, I mean as far

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Speaker 4: as as far as the as far as the young

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Speaker 4: man here. You know, let's be honest here. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 4: it makes sexy headlines to say, you know, he's face

503
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Speaker 4: in prison time, and technically he is. But you know,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about a college student in marijuana here. At

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, I understand that

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Speaker 4: it's of a high amount. You know, you're likely looking at,

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Speaker 4: you know, probably some form of probation or maybe you

508
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Speaker 4: can get a diversion program. You know, certainly the courts

509
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Speaker 4: are going to be more lenient with a you know,

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Speaker 4: college kid that has apparently apparently no criminal record that

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Speaker 4: we know of.

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Speaker 1: This far, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: So he's been suspended by Alabama, so for him, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a moot point. But in a situation like this,

515
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Speaker 2: if you're a college athlete and you you bail yourself

516
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Speaker 2: out of jail, or you get bailed out of jail.

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Speaker 2: If the school will let you play, can you travel

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Speaker 2: to play in competition? Or are there is there usually,

519
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Speaker 2: especially for a possible felony offense, here, are there restrictions

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Speaker 2: about where a somebody like this could go.

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Speaker 4: It depends on what restrictions the court put's on you,

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Speaker 4: unless there's a restriction that says you can't leave the state. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: certainly you'd be free to go and travel with the team.

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Speaker 4: I see that he got a low bond in the situation,

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Speaker 4: and certainly he'd be able to travel and play if

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Speaker 4: Alabama lets them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, right now, they're not going to but as

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Speaker 2: you referenced before, it is Alabama, so you never know.

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Speaker 1: Go Rams. I'm rooting for you and we'll talk next week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you both.

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Speaker 2: You're on ESPN fifteen thirty David, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How are you good?

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Speaker 4: Afternoon?

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Speaker 8: Mo?

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Speaker 5: How are you today, sir?

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Speaker 1: Wonderful? What's going on?

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Speaker 9: I try to call a little bit more so you

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Speaker 9: can see me as a regular. I hope you kind

583
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Speaker 9: of remember me. I'm the guy that keeps saying that

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Speaker 9: this pick by mister John Cunningham is going to be

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Speaker 9: by Willie his brother.

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Speaker 5: If you remember me, now, I do so.

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Speaker 1: I kind of asked you, yeah, do you think?

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Speaker 9: And this is what irritates me. I think once again,

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Speaker 9: you see is just not going to turn over any

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Speaker 9: rocks to make the decision on hear me out real quick.

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Speaker 9: The obvious one when when they needed when they hired Mick,

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Speaker 9: Mick took five years or was it four years to

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Speaker 9: rebuild the program.

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Speaker 4: That was an easy pick because.

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Speaker 9: Everybody knew who Mick was and Mick wanted the job,

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Speaker 9: so that was easy. And then John Brannon that was easy.

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Speaker 9: And then quite frankly, Wes, you know, we thought I

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Speaker 9: was like trying to make it like be a sexy pick,

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Speaker 9: but it just wasn't. Are they And like you said

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Speaker 9: to this, you nailed it.

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Speaker 5: And I always love your takes.

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Speaker 9: Are we just doing the simple thing again?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 2: Jared Calhoun, who's the clear front runner to be the guy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Jared Calhoun would be given other opportunities.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's reportedly turned down Kansas State. There were

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Speaker 2: rumors that perhaps Pittsburgh would be interested if they didn't

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Speaker 2: jump back into the Jeff caplepool, I think for a

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Speaker 2: ninth year. So he strikes me as the kind of

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Speaker 2: guy that would be given an opportunity and other opportunities

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Speaker 2: at comparable schools to U see. I think it's completely

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Speaker 2: fair to wonder if he did not have direct UC

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Speaker 2: ties how how much would the interest level be the

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Speaker 2: same versus what it is now? You know, me like,

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Speaker 2: is it, hey, Jared Calhoun is a great candidate because

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Speaker 2: of the success that he's had at Fairmont State, Youngstown State,

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Speaker 2: and in two years at Utah State. Oh, it's also

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Speaker 2: really cool that he's a Cincinnati guy, or at least

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Speaker 2: has u SE ties Or is it hey, we need

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Speaker 2: somebody who has UC ties first. Oh, and then we'll

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Speaker 2: fill in the gaps with his experience. I'm less interested

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Speaker 2: in the UC ties part as I am. Is he

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Speaker 2: a qualified coach who can win, can win in this era,

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Speaker 2: can make the leap from the league that he's in

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Speaker 2: now to the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Is it cool that he has.

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Speaker 2: Relationships with former players and ties to Bob Huggins in

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Speaker 2: the school itself, That's fine, But I'm more interested in

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Speaker 2: just fit in terms of his ability to get the

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Speaker 2: most out of the players. He'll have it, you see, instantly,

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Speaker 2: because I think there's going to be a degree of

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Speaker 2: pressure on him to deliver almost instant results.

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Speaker 9: Agreed, and that kind of just you just nailed it.

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Speaker 9: Then I just don't want to go into purgatory. And

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Speaker 9: I just got a feeling to run the Big twelve.

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Speaker 9: Now West wasn't doing horrible. He was definitely wasn't making it,

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Speaker 9: but I just feel like, if we don't do this

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Speaker 9: one whatever, all right. My second one, and I'll let

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Speaker 9: you go, is my I love all your takes, and

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Speaker 9: my sons call me the mohomer.

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Speaker 1: Oh I always agree with you, Oh no, oh no.

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Speaker 9: But here's the one. I agree with you that Kelvin

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Speaker 9: Samson plays just like Hugs. So I can't deny that,

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Speaker 9: and I've always said that, but I just don't like

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Speaker 9: Kelvin He.

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Speaker 4: He's different than Bob.

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Speaker 5: He just is not a nice guy.

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Speaker 9: They foul on every single play. They can't blow the

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Speaker 9: whistle that many times. And he's just not a happy man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if we were to not if we

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Speaker 2: were to root against head coaches in college basketball because

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Speaker 2: they weren't happy people, we wouldn't root for any of them.

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the work of Mick Cronin? Do

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Speaker 2: you know who Dan Hurley is? Have you watched Tom

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Speaker 2: Muzzo on a sideline? I mean, if it's if we're

656
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Speaker 2: only going to root for the guys who are happy,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at my bracket now, I'm trying

658
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: to find John Shire does seem to be pretty happy.

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00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: Jake Diebler seems like a fun dude. I'm trying Tommy

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: Lloyd seems like he's often happy. The rest of these dudes, Uh,

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00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find Matt Painter is always angry, Uh,

662
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: Mark Mark Mark Hughes pretty pretty.

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Speaker 1: Brad Stevens is always pressed off.

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Speaker 9: So if you and I just I guess I can

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00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 9: get down. I hate Houston.

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Speaker 2: I I appreciate the phone call, Thanks thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: I what I what I like about Houston, and I've

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00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: I've said this often. I think it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a simplification to say, well, they are what the

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00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: Bearcats used to be, although like that's an observation many

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00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: of us have made the UC teams that I revered

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00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: to this day. When I've watched Houston in recent years,

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00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 2: they have reminded me of them. And I also feel

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Speaker 2: like the success that Houston had toward the end of

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Speaker 2: their run in the AAC, there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: more to the idea that they foul on every play,

677
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: and there was a little bit more to the idea

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00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: then that, well they just throw it up against the glass,

679
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: like that's not so much the case. I think neither

680
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: are so much the case right now. But what I

681
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: appreciate about them. There are other programs you could say

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00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: this about, But what I appreciate about them is I

683
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: think it has never been more difficult for a college

684
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: basketball program to have an identity because of the player

685
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: at turnover. Houston has one. They're not the only one.

686
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Michigan State's had one for thirty years. I think for

687
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: the most part, Rick Patino teams have an identity, but

688
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: I think it's never been more difficult for a program

689
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: to have an identity. I admire the programs that do.

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00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: Houston carried that identity forth from the AAC to the

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00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. It feels like Houston's been a Big twelve

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Speaker 2: program for decades. They've been in the league for as

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Speaker 2: many years as UC has. I is Kelvin Samson grumpier

694
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Speaker 2: than he needs to be? Yeah, Okay, there's a long

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Speaker 2: list of college coaches you could say that. About the

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Speaker 2: fact that they have that is to me admirable. I

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: like how they play. I just I'm an admirer of

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00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: that program, and so I it would be. I'm not

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00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: a Houston fan per se, but in an event like this,

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00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: if my teams aren't in it, sure I want them

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00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: to win. I don't think they will. I think Houston's

702
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: gonna lose to Illinois. But I think it's never been

703
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: more difficult. I think it's the toughest thing to do.

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00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: Like Wes Miller over five years, I think it was

705
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: the most common criticism. They never had a real program identity.

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00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: I don't think Sean Miller had that in his run

707
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: at Xavier two point zero. Richard Patino's got to figure

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00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: out how to do that. I think it's never been

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: more difficult for a program in college basketball, year in

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00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: and year out. Like I know, I've said this before,

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: I close my eyes and envision what a Houston basketball

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00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: player looks like. I know how they play. I just

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Speaker 2: I could picture it. How many programs right now could

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00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: you say that about There weren't millions of them. You

715
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: could say that about ten years ago. There's fewer now.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I admired. I admire how Houston runs its

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Speaker 2: program A couple of the way from five o'clock. By

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Speaker 2: the way, speaking of the tournament tomorrow, we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: at the Holy Grail. It's the cors Light Turny tip Off.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a blast. We go on the

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Speaker 2: air at ten o'clock in the morning and then hang

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Speaker 2: out watch games all day, and the door's open at

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Speaker 2: nine forty five. We've got prizes from Sports Investments and

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Speaker 2: Riverbend Music Center. And if you're one of the first

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Speaker 2: sixty four people through the door, and again I cannot

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Speaker 2: emphasize this enough, if you're an employee of the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Reds and you're just gonna come over and get your team,

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00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: then bring opening day tickets with you. We've had to

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00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: do this before. I'm on the air and I look

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Speaker 2: over and I'm like, hey, that person works for the Reds.

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Speaker 2: They're not sticking around, they're just getting their team. You're

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Speaker 2: allowed to do that if you bring me either gear

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Speaker 2: or opening day tickets in the absence of that show

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Speaker 2: up hangout. If you're one of the first sixty four,

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Speaker 2: get your team, and if your team wins the national title,

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow morning at the Grail, a couple the way

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Speaker 2: from five o'clock. We haven't even touched on the Bengals

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Speaker 2: in free agency yet, which Kind'm not honest with you.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't break my heart, but we will in the

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Speaker 2: next hour on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station