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Speaker 1: to five. Last night's game, be honest with me. Be honest. Now,

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Speaker 6: have your first full season, your first full preseason with him,

429
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Speaker 6: Kevin dankin a second season.

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Speaker 7: But it's it's been hard for you guys.

431
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Speaker 6: It's almost a similar story to what we saw last year,

432
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Speaker 6: which is the amount of injuries in the back line,

433
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Speaker 6: inconsistency with the back line, and now you know Patenton

434
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 6: trying to tinker with the formation. Does he play five

435
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 6: at the back? Does he play four at the back?

436
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 6: Who are the best center back partnerships. Who's the best

437
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 6: to midfielders to have as a double pivot? Do you

438
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 6: play Evander a little bit deeper? Do you play him

439
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 6: a little bit higher? Danks looked really strong this season.

440
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Speaker 6: Evander obviously struggled this season just because of the injury

441
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Speaker 6: that he picked up early on. So it's just finding

442
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Speaker 6: consistency within this team and finding a formation and finding

443
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Speaker 6: a starting eleven that you know is healthy and not

444
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 6: away for international duty or not a way for due

445
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Speaker 6: to injury or sickness.

446
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Speaker 7: So it's been really difficult for pat Noon. And but

447
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Speaker 7: I know a lot of people are like, oh, he's

448
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Speaker 7: on the hot seat. The grass isn't always greener. You

449
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Speaker 7: have to remember what.

450
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Speaker 6: Patt Noon has done for the club and how he's

451
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Speaker 6: turned this club and this franchise completely around.

452
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Speaker 7: So it's been a it's been a difficult start.

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Speaker 6: I look at the three zero win of Retiga, as

454
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Speaker 6: we all thought that that was the turning point of

455
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Speaker 6: the season. Then they go to lose to the Revs

456
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Speaker 6: and a five to one thrashing against.

457
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Speaker 7: Tigas, and then obviously, like you just.

458
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Speaker 6: Alluded to you going into the international break, the four

459
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Speaker 6: to three win over Montreal. But then you're like, it's Montreal,

460
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Speaker 6: Like they've been pretty bad for how many years now?

461
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Speaker 8: You know what I mean?

462
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Speaker 6: And I most respect, I know I'm laughing, But Cincinnati

463
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 6: has put money into the club and they expect results,

464
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 6: and they expect more supporter shield and they want an

465
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Speaker 6: MLS cuff. So be really interesting to see that the

466
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Speaker 6: next upcoming weeks because now you're you're taking on a

467
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Speaker 6: Toronto side that seems to be kind of finding its

468
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 6: form and it's you know, the way and the style

469
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 6: in which it wants to play with the new players.

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Speaker 7: That it's added to the team.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Pat Noonan, and I read and hear some

472
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Speaker 1: of the same stuff. Pat Noonan seed is hot. Correct

473
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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. If FC Cincinnati moved on from

474
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Speaker 1: Pat noon and he'd be out of a job for

475
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Speaker 1: about two and a half minutes, two seconds.

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, this is the thing, and I always say this.

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Speaker 6: Obviously I had a father in law that was a

478
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Speaker 6: coach here in Major League Soccer. So it's a difficult one,

479
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Speaker 6: you know, to be on the other side of it,

480
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Speaker 6: because there's so many things that go on behind the scenes.

481
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Speaker 6: There's so many things that go on inside that locker room,

482
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Speaker 6: and you know, you go through tough moments in your career,

483
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Speaker 6: and you go through tough moments at a club in.

484
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Speaker 7: Your career, but you have to.

485
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Speaker 6: Remember what Pat Noonon is, who Pat Noonon is. He

486
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Speaker 6: is a fantastic coach and like he just said, any

487
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Speaker 6: club here in Major League Soccer would be delighted to

488
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Speaker 6: have him at the helm.

489
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Speaker 1: So he's a.

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Speaker 6: Great tactical manager. He's a great man manager as well.

491
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Speaker 6: But again, right now it's getting everyone healthy and then

492
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Speaker 6: for him though, the big question what does he want

493
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Speaker 6: to play?

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Speaker 7: I think that's that was the biggest question mark heading

495
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Speaker 7: into the season because they have so many.

496
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Speaker 6: Good attacking players that they've brought in. I really thought

497
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Speaker 6: in the preseason he was going to go with a

498
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Speaker 6: solid back four because he's got the players to do it.

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Speaker 6: You know, in the center back position, in that single

500
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Speaker 6: midfield screen or if you want to play a double pivot,

501
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Speaker 6: it's just your fullback maybe on the right, just in

502
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Speaker 6: a weak position there. Structure when in healthy, but it's

503
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Speaker 6: just really lacked there.

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Speaker 7: I think, what do you guys have?

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Speaker 6: I think your second worst defensive team in Major League

506
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Speaker 6: Soccer this year with.

507
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Speaker 7: Goals conceded goals and games.

508
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Speaker 1: What is it?

509
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Speaker 7: Eighteen eighteen goals?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's that's not an FC Cincinnati team when

511
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Speaker 6: you look at it on paper, right, your your one

512
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Speaker 6: goal of game if that, you know. So it's it's

513
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Speaker 6: been really tough in that aspect. And then also discipline

514
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Speaker 6: with the team three three red cards and three matches.

515
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Speaker 7: That's not good enough, especially for.

516
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Speaker 6: You know, a patent new needs where he expects the

517
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Speaker 6: best out of his players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that to me is what stood out

519
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: more than anything. It just it feels like at the

520
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: wrong time, they come on glued, which I'm used to

521
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: watching teams do when they play against FC Cincinnati. It's

522
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: interesting because you know, very early in the season, Pat

523
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: Noon and I think very publicly, was showing exasperation and

524
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: just like at times was coming off with somebody who

525
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: was searching for answers. They made some tactical changes against

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Speaker 1: New York. They didn't result in a win, but I

527
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Speaker 1: felt like in listening to him after the game that

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Speaker 1: he felt like they tapped into something. Would you share

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Speaker 1: that opinion?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 6: I went back and watched kind of like the ten

532
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Speaker 6: minute recap like on Apple TV.

533
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Speaker 7: You and go back and do that because obviously we're

534
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Speaker 7: prepping for thirty.

535
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Speaker 6: Different teams again this upcoming weekend, because that's one of our.

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Speaker 7: Big talking points this weekend.

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Speaker 6: You know, managers that are kind of in the hot

538
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 6: seed or under a little bit of pressure. Pat Nyon's

539
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 6: name came up. They had quality chances in that game,

540
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Speaker 6: they just weren't taken.

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Speaker 7: Then you know, you.

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Speaker 6: Look at the free kick, you get email Fords been

543
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Speaker 6: able to take it again.

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Speaker 7: It's I heard it's actually a really good quote. I

545
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Speaker 7: forget who it was, but he said it's kind of

546
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: like golf.

547
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Speaker 6: I'd be an amazing golfer if my first shot didn't

548
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 6: take off and I got the second shot, And I

549
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 6: was like, wow, that's actually that's actually a fantastic breakdown

550
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 6: of that, because I couldn't agree more so, I did

551
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Speaker 6: think that they had good quality chances. They just didn't

552
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 6: they weren't clinical in the final third. And then, like

553
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: you alluded to, just leaky goals at the back and

554
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 6: it's just switching off mentally. And I kind of want

555
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Speaker 6: to say, it's similar to what we saw kind of

556
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Speaker 6: Chicago over the last few years, where they'd have really

557
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 6: good twenty thirty minutes of play and then the last

558
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: five minutes of a game they couldn't close it out

559
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Speaker 6: and they'd switch off mentally.

560
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 7: And they've switched off.

561
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Speaker 6: But again, that comes with pressure as a team when

562
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Speaker 6: you start the season not doing well, when you have

563
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Speaker 6: so many expectations on you. It's a mindset that has

564
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Speaker 6: to switch within that team. It's a discipline that has

565
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 6: to switch within that team. And yes, it does come

566
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Speaker 6: from a manager, but it also comes with leaders within

567
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Speaker 6: that locker room.

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Speaker 7: So who's your leaders. Who's your leaders that.

569
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 6: Are going to step up in the locker room to

570
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 6: be like, Hey, this isn't good enough, it's not good

571
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Speaker 6: enough in training, we need to.

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Speaker 7: Work on this.

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Speaker 6: And then who's your leader in the game when the

574
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 6: crowd's going crazy at TQL Stadium or if you're on

575
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: the road in Portland or you're on the road at

576
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 6: the Red Bulls or Toronto, who's the player that can

577
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: use their voice in order to almost calm the team

578
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 6: down in those final moments or in the moments after

579
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: you score a goal to think, oh god, we can't concede.

580
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Speaker 6: Because I've been in that situation. I've played on that

581
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: team where.

582
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Speaker 7: You've had a really leaky back.

583
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: Line, you haven't been able to close games down.

584
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Speaker 7: Mentally, you kind of go into this.

585
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 6: Fight or flight mode and it's a really weird feeling

586
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 6: as a professional athlete to be in and you shouldn't

587
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 6: be in it, but you do. And it's really tough

588
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 6: to get out of it when you end up losing

589
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Speaker 6: games in the fashion that FC Cincinnati are losing them.

590
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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you this. FC Cincinnati gets

591
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: rolled over in the postseason last year. They look like

592
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Speaker 1: they were in an admiration of Lionel Messi instead of

593
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Speaker 1: playing against them, and you were very critical. We played

594
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Speaker 1: those comments and I thought they were one hundred percent

595
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Speaker 1: on point. What sort of what sort of push you did?

596
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Speaker 1: But like we played him and I and I, you know,

597
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: my take was tell me where she's wrong. And so

598
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious as to what it was like

599
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Speaker 1: to be public enemy number one among some seasons that

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Speaker 1: fans for a few days.

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Speaker 6: My dad always taught me, if they're talking about you,

602
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Speaker 6: you're doing something right.

603
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Speaker 7: And I'll stand by that.

604
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Speaker 6: I grew up in a professional ice hockey family, and

605
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 6: you know, I'm Canadian through and through.

606
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Speaker 7: I'm from Saskatoon. Saskatchewan's or like.

607
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 6: Grafters, hard workers under no circumstances.

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Speaker 7: If I've just.

609
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Speaker 6: Gotten brutally beaten out in the postseason, what I ask

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Speaker 6: and I understand it.

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Speaker 7: It's Leonel Messi. He's one of the world's greatest players.

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Speaker 6: He's going to go down in history with whether he's

613
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Speaker 6: number one or number two of the best Argentine to

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Speaker 6: ever play the game. And I'm not taking anything away

615
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 6: from that. I understand who he is as a person,

616
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 6: who is the player. I've been lucky enough to meet him.

617
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Speaker 6: But you just don't do it because of your fans.

618
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 6: Like your fans pay the money for you to show

619
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Speaker 6: up and show out every single match day. And for me,

620
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 6: it's just like, there's ways you can do it. Go

621
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 6: inside the locker room. MESSI always gives jerseys inside the

622
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 6: locker room, like their equipment manager always brings extra There's

623
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 6: just a way in which you can do it. So

624
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: your fans aren't seeing that, you know what I mean.

625
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 6: Like I've been a fan obviously, I bring my kids

626
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 6: to games now and it's just like, yeah, I don't know, it's.

627
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Speaker 7: Just for me. I'm yeah, I'm not a fan of it.

628
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 7: I know there's a lot of people that are.

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Speaker 6: And you know, people are saying, oh, you don't know

630
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 6: anything about football. I'm telling you now, I still want

631
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: an Abby walmbacker Christine Sinclaire to trade jerseys with me

632
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 6: after I've just been kicked out of the postseason, as

633
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: much as I want to.

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Speaker 1: I said, And again, we played the comments and I'm

635
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: older than you. But I said, I remember watching the

636
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: ninety two US men's basketball team and how the players

637
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: who played against them were. They played those games like

638
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: they were in All of guys like Michael Jordan and

639
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson e FC Cincinnati in a playoff game that day.

640
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: During the game looked the same way. They looked like

641
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: they were slobbering over Lionel Messi and couldn't wait for

642
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: the game to end. So I thought, you nailed it,

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00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: and we head you're back. So we appreciate you joining us.

644
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 6: As taking so long to get me on your show.

645
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: Jeezus, we should have you know what that now there's

646
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: now you can now you can call me out for that.

647
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: So we are all right. Enjoy the game on Saturday.

648
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: call it Twitter. Gigsel James is entering the transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: He becomes the latest barricat we've seen shawnabayev Keishawn Tillery

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Speaker 1: sincere Harris mustafat Chom Now Jigsel, Maybe there are other

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Speaker 1: names that have escaped my notice. Jigsel James. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're a Bearcat fan that you should have

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Speaker 1: been opposed to him being on the team this year.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who averaged double figures in the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve last season. But I also don't view his departure

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Speaker 1: as something that's going to make or break Jared Calhoun's

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Speaker 1: first season. Gisel James, I don't know if I'm speaking

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Speaker 1: for the majority here. When Wes Miller decided to bring

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Speaker 1: him back, I was a proponent of that. Main reason

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Speaker 1: I was a proponent of it is, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: wee can add a guy to the team that's averaged

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Speaker 1: average nearly thirteen points a game the year before. We're

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Speaker 1: going to go ahead and do that. That made sense,

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Speaker 1: And there were some folks with the coaching staff who

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Speaker 1: got mad at me for saying this, But my takeaway was,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're worried about Gisel coming back and

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Speaker 1: disrupting the chemistry, there's not a lot of chemistry on

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Speaker 1: the floor right now, so that shouldn't be a concern.

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Speaker 1: But for a player who handled the ball as much

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Speaker 1: as Gisel did, it was always so frustrating his lack

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Speaker 1: of free throw attempts. Gisel James averaged this season one

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Speaker 1: free throw attempt per game in his three year UCE career,

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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of good things that he did,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good things. Gigsel James was the most

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Speaker 1: encouraging thing about UC's first season of the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: His career high in free throw attempts seven. He only

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Speaker 1: attempted more than five free throws in a game three

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Speaker 1: times in three years. I know, obviously he didn't play

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Speaker 1: every game this past season. For a guy who handled

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Speaker 1: the ball as much as he did, primarily obviously a

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Speaker 1: point guard, to get to the free throw line that

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Speaker 1: infrequently was maddening to me. So and I also just

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Speaker 1: this is again, had Gigil announced he's coming back to

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Speaker 1: UC for a fourth year. Fine relative to the player

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Speaker 1: that I thought he could be when he was a freshman,

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Speaker 1: I hate to say he's been a disappointment, and I

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Speaker 1: know there have been off court issues, but I just

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Speaker 1: often at times underwhelmed. And I'll go back to what's

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Speaker 1: the game that seemed to see a wes Miller's fate,

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Speaker 1: which was that game against UCF and the conference tournament

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Speaker 1: where they had all the turnovers down the stretch. Gisel

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Speaker 1: James had a few of those. The ten second violation,

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Speaker 1: which is a month later, still maddening to me. That

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Speaker 1: was Gigsel James and a player with that type of

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Speaker 1: experience in a game like that with your season hanging

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Speaker 1: in the balance, Oh, that simply cannot happen. So best

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Speaker 1: of luck to the guy. I've heard that his off

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Speaker 1: court issues have been straightened out and rectified and won.

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Speaker 1: Nothing but the best for the guy. But if you

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Speaker 1: would have told me two years ago Gisel James is

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Speaker 1: putting his name in the transfer portal, I would have

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Speaker 1: been profoundly disappointed. I don't feel that way today. I'll

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Speaker 1: be profoundly disappointed if the Bengals don't draft kleb Bounce

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Speaker 1: Bengals on the Brain first Star Media Group. The latest

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Speaker 1: Bengals on the Brain episode on YouTube is Joe Goodberry's

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Speaker 1: mock Draft three point zero. It is a must watch.

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Speaker 1: I watched it this morning. First of all, Joe, how

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Speaker 1: are you counting down the draft day?

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Speaker 9: So I'm doing great. Nothing could really bothered me at

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Speaker 9: this point, you and me both.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that changes. Two weeks from tomorrow night

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Speaker 1: before we dive into the draft. Give me to this

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Speaker 1: point free agency, the good, the bad, Who they've acquired,

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Speaker 1: what they've ignored, Give me a thirty thousand foot view

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Speaker 1: perspective of what the Bengals have done in free agency.

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Speaker 9: Well, they attacked the defensive line with Boye Mofe and

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Speaker 9: Johnson Hellen. Those are two guys I like and two

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Speaker 9: guys I wanted them to go after. They went after

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Speaker 9: a thorn on the defensive side. Forever has been safety

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Speaker 9: since Jesse Bates loom Bell departure. They got Brian Cook,

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Speaker 9: who the best safety in free agency. Those are all

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Speaker 9: good things. And I think even the late pickups of

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Speaker 9: Jessah Taylor that can compete at nickel corner and Dougar

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Speaker 9: at safety who can be like a safety linebacker hybrid

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Speaker 9: is what he's been in his career. Kyle Duggar has

767
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Speaker 9: that guy that I think a lot of teams are

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Speaker 9: trying to chase that prototype now. So I'll be interested

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Speaker 9: to see how they deploy him and what the role

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Speaker 9: for him is. You add on the defense, and I'm

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Speaker 9: happy and I'm good with all that. If you want

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Speaker 9: to get into the weeds. I thought they could have

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Speaker 9: done so much more in reducing the cap hits and

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Speaker 9: giving themselves more flexibility and more ability to go out

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Speaker 9: and get a couple more guys. And I hate getting

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Speaker 9: to December January and just wondering if one, two, three

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Speaker 9: more signings would have pushed them over the top. And

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Speaker 9: I feel like we're in the spring here saying, you know,

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Speaker 9: I think they could have done a little more.

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Speaker 1: Should I be as frustrated as I am at the

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Speaker 1: lack of a linebacker?

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Speaker 9: Yes, I think they are too. There's been some conflicting

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Speaker 9: reports of people, like, you know, I'm not sure they're

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Speaker 9: going for the big guys. I think it depends on

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Speaker 9: who you ask. Were they ever going to give the

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Speaker 9: money that Devin Lloyd wanted? Probably not, That's how they

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Speaker 9: do contracts. But did they really want to get a

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Speaker 9: good linebacker? I think they did, and they went after

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Speaker 9: quite a few guys that I know of, So for me,

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Speaker 9: I think they're still going to monitor. I think it's

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Speaker 9: still a position where you can come back and circle

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Speaker 9: after free agency. It wasn't a good free agent class

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Speaker 9: the initial ones. And you know, if you want to

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Speaker 9: go get Devin Lloyd, Leosh and all those of the

795
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Speaker 9: two guys. We kept pegging because those are the only

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Speaker 9: two that I really wanted, and it's so like your

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Speaker 9: options were slim the chances that you were going to

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Speaker 9: be one of the teams to get them, especially with

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Speaker 9: the where the Bengals offer free agent contracts with slim.

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Speaker 9: So can you come back around and get Bobby Wagner,

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Speaker 9: Matt Malano, Shaq Thompson to help give you a veteran?

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Speaker 9: Could you still get Sonny Styles or any of these

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Speaker 9: guys in a very very strong linebacker class. Of course

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Speaker 9: you could. I think that the lemma comes when they

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Speaker 9: had second round grades on Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter

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Speaker 9: last year. At what point if you slotted them into

807
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Speaker 9: this class they'd be lower for me. But if they

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Speaker 9: were to slot them in this class, where do they say, Okay,

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Speaker 9: we're not going to draft one now because they're not

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Speaker 9: better than the two guys that we've already given a

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Speaker 9: year of seasoning two. We're better off rolling with Knight

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Speaker 9: and Carter and picking up a veteran after the draft.

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Speaker 9: That is going to be something they're gonna have to

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Speaker 9: weigh at some point.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the name Sonny Styles, and I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you about him because in your mock draft,

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Speaker 1: and you did it based on what you think is

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Speaker 1: going to happen, not necessarily what you wish would happen.

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Speaker 1: But you had the Giants taking Sonny at number five.

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Speaker 1: They are the betting favor to take Sonny styles if

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Speaker 1: if they pivot in another direction, which I think would

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Speaker 1: be a surprise, what are the odds that Sonny is

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Speaker 1: there when the Bengals go in the clock at number ten.

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Speaker 9: Sonny's one of the cleanest prospects in this class. It's

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Speaker 9: a weird class without the star power at the top.

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Speaker 9: There's not the big left tackle that's an all world

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Speaker 9: left tackle. There's an even Colonel tadat wide. Receiver isn't

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Speaker 9: the type of guy we've seen. He's not Malik Neighbors, right,

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Speaker 9: He's not the top receiver in other classes. He would

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Speaker 9: still be a top fifteenth pick. But you know, even

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Speaker 9: at corner, if Jermont McCoy manser delaying, there are some

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Speaker 9: questions on those guys as well. So there's no big

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Speaker 9: defensive tackle. Even the pass rushers. Argo Reeves is a

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Speaker 9: guy that's kind of a tweener, and David Bailey isn't

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Speaker 9: a little bit older that doesn't bend the corner as well.

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Speaker 9: So there's questions on all these guys. There are no

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Speaker 9: questions really on Sunny Style. He's just developing and getting

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Speaker 9: into his own and you can see what that upside

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Speaker 9: and potential looks like. It's an absolute freak show in

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Speaker 9: terms of hype, weight, speed, and I think teams are

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Speaker 9: gonna drool over that potential. But linebacker is a tough

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Speaker 9: position to draft in round one and a tough one

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Speaker 9: to draft overall in the top ten because they don't

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Speaker 9: typically get second contracts with their team. And it's part

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Speaker 9: of big part is the CBA. You can't put the

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Speaker 9: fiftiear option on them because they're labeled as defensive end

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Speaker 9: because outside linebackers in the three four and somehow we

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Speaker 9: can't figure this out, you know, teny years later. But

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Speaker 9: and then you can't put the franchise tag on him

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Speaker 9: because again, they get valued as a defensive end. So

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Speaker 9: it's stupid. You aren't gonna put a franchise tag on

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Speaker 9: Sunny stousand five years. That's gonna be thirty million dollars

853
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Speaker 9: when the top linebacker's probably making twenty two at that point.

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Speaker 9: So you're never gonna do it. And these guys are

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Speaker 9: not getting second contracts. So if you know that, some

856
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Speaker 9: teams are just gonna we're not going to do it.

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Speaker 9: We can get that guy in round two to three four,

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Speaker 9: but I think because he's so clean, there's a chance

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Speaker 9: to achieve. Or the Commanders or the Saints, somebody out

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Speaker 9: of them just said, you know what, that's a guy

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Speaker 9: we cannot pass on. But if he gets close, and

862
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Speaker 9: if he gets near the Bengals and gets to that spot,

863
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Speaker 9: I do think he'd be very high for them.

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Speaker 1: Joe Goodbary Bengals on the Brain on YouTube latest episode

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Speaker 1: mod Draft three point zero. I'm not going to give

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Speaker 1: away all your content, but you had a chance in

867
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Speaker 1: your mock draft to take Caleb Downs you did not.

868
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Speaker 1: How much is that informed by what they've done specifically

869
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Speaker 1: at safety so far in free agency?

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Speaker 9: So a lot of that conversation I talked about that

871
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 9: value at linebacker also applies to safety, and it makes

872
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 9: it very hard to take those guys. They tend to

873
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Speaker 9: get the positions we say are like non premium positions

874
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 9: center guard, tight end, linebacker, safety, those are all we

875
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 9: call him that because they get drafted later in the draft.

876
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Speaker 9: They don't get paid as much in free agency, so

877
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 9: these are lesser positions. They're still I want an impact

878
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 9: player at those and I think Caleb Downs is that.

879
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 9: But teams are going to weigh again another strong class

880
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 9: at safety, so safety, linebacker. Two strong classes could push

881
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 9: these guys a little bit down if you say, you

882
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 9: know what, we're just not going to take downs here

883
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 9: who is a smaller guy didn't do any of this testing.

884
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 9: Or we can get a guy in round two that's

885
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 9: really good at safety. We might go for the wide

886
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 9: receiver now, we might go for the offensive lineman now,

887
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 9: or the edge rusher now. So I kind of get

888
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 9: why teams would do it. But to me, and we

889
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Speaker 9: do our draft spreadsheet every year, he's got the highest

890
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 9: tape grade of any player in this class for us,

891
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 9: and I think he's a special guy. And will you

892
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 9: hear any evaluator or scout or anyone that hasn't spent

893
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 9: any time around Caleb Downs talk about him from a

894
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 9: personal level and who he is and how he would

895
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 9: change what you do on defense and the culture in

896
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 9: the locker room and the mindset like that sounds like

897
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 9: that's exactly what the Bengals need, so I do wonder

898
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Speaker 9: if they will look for a premium position over him.

899
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 9: But what if they're not there? I turned into many

900
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 9: box whor it's just Caleb downs and you look at

901
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 9: the rest the field and I'm like, yeah, why would

902
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 9: you take anybody else? So it could be that scenario too.

903
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: All right, Ruben Bain, who you did have going to

904
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at ten? Overall, you've you've talked about this, I

905
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: think maybe more than any other topic. But the short

906
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: arms thing would come up immediately. Give me the cliff

907
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: notes counter to that when somebody says, look the arm

908
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: the short arms thing should preclude them from taking him

909
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: a ten.

910
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: Overall, Yeah, it's a real thing.

911
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 9: And arms are short. We cannot deny that. But it

912
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Speaker 9: is more than just arm length. I see a lot

913
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Speaker 9: of people that are, you know, doing basic draft analysis

914
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Speaker 9: not they'll bring up the arm length and say, hey,

915
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 9: no one's ever succeeded with this, no one's ever gone

916
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Speaker 9: in the first round with this. And first, my retort

917
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 9: on a football level is nobody plays defensive end at

918
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Speaker 9: this that size. They don't make it to defensive end.

919
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 9: They normally say you gotta add twenty pounds, we're gonna

920
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 9: put you at defensive tackle, or you're gonna drop twenty pounds,

921
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 9: we're gonna put you at linebacker. The body type is

922
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 9: weird at defensive end, there's no denying that. But it

923
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Speaker 9: goes further than that. Number one. The wings is important.

924
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 9: It's why they measure wingspan. How broad are your shoulders,

925
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 9: that's your real lengths, that's your tackle radius, that's your

926
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Speaker 9: ability to long arm guys. Because you're turning your shoulders

927
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Speaker 9: in a long arm. It's not just one arm sticking

928
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Speaker 9: straight out when you're putting doing a pass rush. You're

929
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Speaker 9: turning your shoulders to give you that extra length. Because

930
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Speaker 9: even if you've had thirty two inch arms of the

931
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Speaker 9: defensive end, the offensive tackle better have thirty three and plus. Right,

932
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Speaker 9: we talk about arm length all the time. At offensive tackle,

933
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Speaker 9: they're thirty three, thirty four to thirty five. So if

934
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Speaker 9: you have thirty two, you're already outgunned. But why can

935
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Speaker 9: they still beat them in still long arm them? Carl Lawson,

936
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Speaker 9: We just see them list guys. We see geno Akins

937
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 9: list guys with that long arm. Why those are short

938
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 9: arm guys because they turn their shoulders. They have better wingspan,

939
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Speaker 9: they have good technique, handplacement, and raw brute strength. So

940
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Speaker 9: I need guys that are explosives, that have good technique,

941
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 9: good hand placement, and play with a raw intensity. Ruben

942
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 9: Bain nails all of that, and his wingspan is not

943
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 9: as bad as his arm length. His wingspan is just

944
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 9: shorter than Aiden Hutchinson, just shorter than Nick Bosa. It

945
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 9: is the exact the same wingspan as Trey Hendrickson. So

946
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Speaker 9: you think that with scare of the Bengals, I don't

947
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 9: think it would at all. There's a story about Trey

948
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 9: Henderson Hendrickson going to from the Saints to the Bengals

949
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 9: and that first year their D line coaches and their

950
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 9: pass Russ coaches showing them different things and techniques he

951
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 9: could master to help him get as much length as

952
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 9: possible on his moves. And Trey Henderson was an elite

953
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 9: athlete with great power too and technique. I think you

954
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 9: can see that in Ruben bayin a lot and he's

955
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 9: a great run defender. He can play left right defensive tackle.

956
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 9: You're gonna move him around, keep the advantage in his favor.

957
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 9: Find an offensive lineman on the other team who's got

958
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 9: the shorter stirm So okay, Ruben Ban, you're gonna rush

959
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 9: against him thirty times today? There are ways to go

960
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 9: about it, and I think the team that looks at

961
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 9: it from that perspective is going to draft him. Now,

962
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 9: I will say the last two guys you talked about here,

963
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 9: Caleb Downs and Rubyn Bain. I've been saying this for

964
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Speaker 9: subscribers on Twitter for about three weeks now. I believe,

965
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 9: and I've been talking to people and trying to reach

966
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 9: the other teams and people I know over the years.

967
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 9: Now I believe there's a good shot one or both

968
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 9: are there for the Bengals at ten. When I did

969
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 9: that mock, I really wanted to put that scenario there

970
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 9: to talk it through because I don't think it's crazy.

971
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 9: I think teams are gonna concerned with both guys, which

972
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 9: just takes one team and then you can see why

973
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 9: you fall in love with either guy.

974
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: If Jeremiah Love is there at ten, are you tempted?

975
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 9: Yes, completely, because that also means that Bain probably already wentz.

976
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 9: Maybe Caleb wentz. And you may sit there and you go, okay,

977
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 9: do we want to take a corner both corners? I

978
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 9: really liked, But do you want to take a corner

979
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 9: and it could mean the end of either Dacks or

980
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 9: DJ Turner's career with the Bengals, because are they going

981
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 9: to keep all three guys or they just use it

982
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 9: as leverage? And could you say, well, the best player

983
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 9: in the draft is Jeremiah Love. He's number two on

984
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 9: the consensus, right, so yes, he's a fantastic player. Would

985
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 9: you take a John Robinson? Would you take any of

986
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 9: the top five running backs in the league and say

987
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 9: give it in this put it in this offense. Would

988
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 9: that scare the defense? Would that scare defensive coordinators? I

989
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 9: think it would. I think they already have nightmares about

990
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 9: Jamar Chase and T Higgins and even my Koseki and

991
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 9: Chase Brown, right, the ancillary players on this offense that

992
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 9: can really do damage on any given Sunday. Well, you

993
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 9: add a top five type running back with home run speed,

994
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 9: game breaking speed, I think that everyone else around the

995
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 9: league would laugh for a second, and then they'd go, damn,

996
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 9: we got to cover up all this. That is not

997
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 9: good news for us. And in a class that's really

998
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 9: good at linebackers, safety, and defensive end, you could really

999
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 9: nail Day two and come away and say, you know what,

1000
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 9: that's probably the best move for us to make at ten.

1001
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 9: Take the best player available. And we're asking a lot

1002
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 9: to ask the Bengals to nail Day two, But if

1003
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 9: they did, they could really come away as winners in

1004
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 9: the draft.

1005
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: In mock Draft three point zero, which I watched on

1006
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: YouTube this morning, you had me wait a while before

1007
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: you took a linebacker. If I wake up on Saturday

1008
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: morning of the draft and the Bengals haven't addressed that position,

1009
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: how much should I worry.

1010
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 9: If they haven't done it by Saturday. So they're saying day.

1011
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Three, While if I wake up to day three, if

1012
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: I wake up day three rounds, If I go to

1013
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: bed Friday night and regardless of who they've taken and

1014
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: which quality of players you know they've acquired and which

1015
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: positions they've addressed, if I go to bed on Friday

1016
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: night and I'm still thinking it's Barrett Carter, Demetrius Knight

1017
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: and whatever's behind door number two, how concerned should I

1018
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: be relative to the depth of the linebacker class?

1019
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 9: You know, I confuse me, mo, because I'm getting old

1020
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 9: as well, and I remember the draft being.

1021
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 10: On the weekend right and that and that was a

1022
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 10: good time and I kind of a year for those

1023
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 10: days again. But yeah, Day three and Saturday. Should you

1024
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 10: be concerned? It is a strong linebacker class. Do I

1025
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 10: think someone could still be there in the fourth Now

1026
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 10: they don't have a fifth, so do they recoup that pick.

1027
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 9: At some point? I could see them training back and

1028
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 9: trying to get an extra pick for that spot because

1029
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 9: there is some depth to you. I think the class

1030
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 9: balls off in round six and seven, but in round

1031
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 9: four and five you can still get contributing players. And

1032
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 9: we've seen especially linebacker be able to come in and

1033
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 9: I think the Bengals specifically could be looking for at

1034
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 9: this point if we get to that point, all right,

1035
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 9: is there a Sam linebacker? Is there a guy that

1036
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 9: can play on the edge and do some of the

1037
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 9: bare front stuff we need to do where we bring

1038
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 9: that guy down and have control the edge, play the

1039
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 9: run and not allow anyone to get outside of them

1040
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 9: in the run game. There are a few guys like

1041
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 9: that that you could take and that would still be there,

1042
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 9: and I think like it consensus Jayshawn Barrow out of Michigan,

1043
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 9: who's kind of like an edge linebacker hybrid the SAM

1044
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 9: kind of prototype that you would be looking for. He's

1045
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 9: consensus one oh four that is the fourth round, beginning

1046
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 9: of the fourth round, if he was still there. So

1047
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 9: it really depends. Would I be nervous? I would because

1048
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 9: it means Knight and Carter are likely or still still

1049
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 9: too getting the bulk of the snaps, like some fourth

1050
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 9: round linebackers, unlikely to come in and unseat these guys.

1051
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 9: But he said this last year, we didn't think that

1052
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 9: Barrett Carter was going to come in and get the

1053
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 9: green dot by week five, right, So it could happen,

1054
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 9: and depending on how they grade these guys and say,

1055
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 9: oh we had a second round pick on Barrett Carter.

1056
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 9: Sure he did, of course, that's how it goes. But

1057
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: are there guys here? There are Kayshawn Elliett from Arizona State,

1058
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 9: Bryce Betcher from Oregon. I think Harold Perkins would be

1059
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: a good SAM guy from LSU, and I think LSU

1060
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 9: misused them like crazy. All of these guys tray More

1061
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 9: that would be a perfect SAM linebacker out of Texas.

1062
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 9: There are a ton of them on Day three, probably

1063
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 9: going to go in that fourth fifth round range where

1064
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 9: you could still help these guys look better by giving

1065
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 9: them a good you know, get to me this night

1066
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 9: out of that Sam spot that's where I thought he

1067
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 9: looked his worst. Put a better guy there and get

1068
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 9: let Knight do his thing back in the middle.

1069
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: I ask you something along these lines. Every year. Give

1070
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: me and I know we just talked about Saturday and linebackers,

1071
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: but but give me a player maybe too that as

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Speaker 1: you have done your draft prep work, you go. You

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Speaker 1: know what if late Saturday afternoon that guy is there

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Speaker 1: rounds five sixty seven, that is a player I would

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Speaker 1: love to see to come to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 9: I've got quite a few Our draft sheets should be

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Speaker 9: out probably Friday to the public, so you're going to

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Speaker 9: see a lot of surprising names. Then it could be

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00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 9: even at the top. Number one guy is not someone

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Speaker 9: that anybody else has. And I'll give you that. And

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Speaker 9: if you if the Bengals put some of them at ten,

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Speaker 9: I do dances and have to explain why it's okay.

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Speaker 9: But let's say we go down in the day three

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Speaker 9: and use that. There are quite a few guys. I

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00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 9: think Eli Raridan, the tight end from Notre Dame, is

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Speaker 9: exactly what they could want. This is a super strong

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Speaker 9: tight end class. He gets a in your first round

1088
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Speaker 9: score for us. Taking in his data and his athleticism.

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Speaker 9: He's a big blocker with good hands. He had a

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Speaker 9: couple of injuries in his career, which is what's going

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Speaker 9: to keep him into Day three consensus fifth maybe sixth

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Speaker 9: round pick. If he's there, I think that is a

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Speaker 9: big boost to what they would want. Kind of a

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Speaker 9: hybrid between Drew Sample and Mike Coseki's. I know people

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Speaker 9: are listening right now and saying, we got Eric all yeah,

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Speaker 9: but you can't trust that camp bank on it. There's

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Speaker 9: probably twenty draftable maybe twenty five. I've seen on the

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Speaker 9: beast twenty five draftable tight ends in this class. That

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Speaker 9: many does not get drafted. It's only fifteen to eighteen.

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Speaker 9: There's going to be a ton getting drafted this year,

1101
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 9: more than normal. Every team should get one or at

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Speaker 9: least close to the Bengals. I would suspect in on

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Speaker 9: Day three go after that position hard. One guy that

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Speaker 9: scores really high for us that really isn't with anybody

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Speaker 9: else too. Safeties actually has been pulling up right now.

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Speaker 9: Jalen Husky from Maryland and why that Williams from Ole

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Speaker 9: miss These are Why at Williams is three hundred and

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Speaker 9: fifty second on the consensus board and Jalen Husky is

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Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty eight, So we're talking sixth rounders.

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Speaker 9: So both guys get second round scores for us because

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Speaker 9: their data is really good. Their athleticism was good, PFF scoring,

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Speaker 9: and all the stuff that looks to have a core

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Speaker 9: lived data from year from the NFL or college to

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Speaker 9: NFL from year on a consistency basis, Jalen Hosky and

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Speaker 9: White at Williams get boost straight there. Like if you're

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Speaker 9: in round six and they haven't taken a safety, give

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Speaker 9: me either one of those guys that they they'd have

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Speaker 9: a shot to stick and make your team.

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Speaker 1: I always feel so much smarter after we chat. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bother you right after the draft. Can't thank

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Speaker 1: you enough. Looking forward to it. I know you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of content coming up. We'll check it out.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Man, Thanks so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Boll Joe Goodbary Bengals on the Brain on YouTube. Awesome stuff.

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Speaker 1: As always, twenty one after four o'clock, we have to

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Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by M four o'clock. This is

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, Monegger, Brenneman and Jones in just about

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Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. One thing worth paying attention to. We

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Speaker 1: spent some time yesterday talking about the Reds offense, which

1146
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Speaker 1: let me get this out of the way. First, they're

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Speaker 1: eight and five, which is awesome. They can use a

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Speaker 1: little bit more offense, right correct, and wondering like is

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Speaker 1: it time to give Resigns a chance? And he may fail.

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Speaker 1: If he give him a chance, he may succeed. The

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Speaker 1: Reds offense may go through no substantial improvement because they

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Speaker 1: call up Resigns. But you know, let's be honest, you've

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Speaker 1: got an offense that is leaving a little bit to

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Speaker 1: be desired. Again, they are eight and three. I understand

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Speaker 1: their chances are. They're not making a trade anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: It's not like there's somebody on the injured list who

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Speaker 1: you're thinking, well, that guy's gonna come off the interur

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Speaker 1: list and help us. They just dfa ces. Resigns had

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Speaker 1: a great spring. Resigns as toward the cover off the

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Speaker 1: ball early in the season in Louisville. He was not

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: in Louisville's lineup yesterday, He was not in Louisville's lineup

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00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: for a day game today. Now they haven't added him

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Speaker 1: to the roster. Doesn't appear nobody has seen him in Miami.

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna be worth paying attention to at least

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00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 1: a little. But again, like with some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: they've gotten limited amounts of big league experience and haven't

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Speaker 1: exactly taken the opportunity and run with it. Reese Heine's

1168
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: major league appearances last year were utterly forgettable, or if

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Speaker 1: they were memorable, they were memorable for all the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: But you have, you know, you have a team that's

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Speaker 1: struggling offensively. You have a guy that did have a

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Speaker 1: great spring, is off to a good start in Louisville.

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00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: You've invested a lot of time in him, like at

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: some point you've got to find out at the big

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Speaker 1: league level what you have. And even in this age

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Speaker 1: where we are more impatient than we've ever been, I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that the roughly forty games

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Speaker 1: that he has been given at the big league level

1179
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Speaker 1: aren't necessarily enough to fully judge whether or not he

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Speaker 1: could be a guy. And I know they want him

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Speaker 1: to play every single day, but the primary objective is

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Speaker 1: to win major league baseball games. And again, it is

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Speaker 1: completely worth wondering what can you do to add a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a jolt to this offense. And the

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Speaker 1: first place you look at is Louisville, and the first

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Speaker 1: thing you see at Louisville as a guy in Reese

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Speaker 1: Shines who's off to a great start. He may not

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Speaker 1: materialize into the kind of big league hitter that he

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Speaker 1: hopes to be and that we hope to be, hope

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Speaker 1: that he turns into. But still like it's worth wondering.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, did not play for Louisville last night. Did

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Speaker 1: not play for Louisville today. They had a day game

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Speaker 1: against Indianapolis. Worth baying attention to. We have a new

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Speaker 1: Red's and Marlins Tonight six forty down the Hall on

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Speaker 1: Top it some more and you brought bags of Skyline

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Speaker 11: Whenever you're feeling good and hungry. It's a beautiful day

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Speaker 11: in the neighborhood, bro. I mean it's seventy degrees in

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Speaker 11: the Natty. We got the masters coming on, are beloved

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Speaker 11: Reds winning eighth grade start off to the Marlins. We're

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Speaker 11: gonna crush them. We're gonna sweep them. Calling it here, wow, sweep.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like your speaking of my line

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Speaker 1: with Skyline, Chili and the Reds winning. I mean, what else,

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Speaker 1: We just need a little graters and wash it down.

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Speaker 1: That sounds quite amazing. That sounds quite amazing. It's awesome

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Speaker 1: to have you. Good to be awesome to have you

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Speaker 1: with us every Wednesday at this time to talk sports

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Speaker 1: and money. I want to start with something that a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks asked in the run up to the

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Speaker 1: baseball season, which was, how can I watch the Reds?

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Speaker 1: Will I be able to watch the Reds? What's it

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Speaker 1: gonna cost me to watch the Reds? What am I

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Speaker 1: gonna need? What am I gonna have to download? Where

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Speaker 1: are they gonna be? Am I not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to watch them? Yeah? All of this starts with the

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Speaker 1: crumbling of regional sports networks, right, I want a copy

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Speaker 1: of Questions? Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, major League Baseball coming in and saying we're gonna

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Speaker 11: fix this. I mean, think about this. There's there were

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Speaker 11: nine teams that they stepped in and said, all right,

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Speaker 11: we're gonna we're gonna do it our way, and we

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Speaker 11: gotta go back. You gotta go back and go what's

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Speaker 11: the reasoning why. I remember looking on my TV and

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Speaker 11: my dad and I went down to the game, and

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Speaker 11: my wife is gonna look, and I'm going, I don't

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Speaker 11: how do I see the game is? And it's like

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Speaker 11: you're opening dance, like before walking out to the mountain.

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Speaker 11: The picture's going, you know, moving in the relief pitcher.

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Speaker 11: We literally saw go back twenty nineteen, Sinclair borrowed some money,

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Speaker 11: borrowed a lot of money. They brought about nine billion

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Speaker 11: dollars in debt to buy some regional sports and they

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Speaker 11: really put a betmo on this hierarchy status quo of

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Speaker 11: everyone just paying one hundred and eighty dollars a month

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Speaker 11: and getting the whole cable. And then COVID happened and

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Speaker 11: our doors slam shut and we stayed home and we

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Speaker 11: started going, I'm cutting the cord. I don't need this.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna watch Netflix. I'm gonna watch this, and I

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Speaker 11: watch this, and it really crippled, in my opinion, these

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Speaker 11: regional sports networks. I think in some ways it also

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 11: hurt our beloved Reds. I mean, there are stats that

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Speaker 11: are saying almost twenty five percent, and I don't know

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Speaker 11: what it is for the Reds, but for some of

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Speaker 11: these teams, it was a huge revenue share that they

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Speaker 11: lost and it's going to take some time to get

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Speaker 11: that back. But what I love is you can download it.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's not terribly expensive. No, it's ninety nine dollars.

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Speaker 11: You get seven days. I love this price free. Who

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Speaker 11: you should be getting a commission on this.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but I mean the Reds are hot, they're winning,

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Speaker 11: and I think if you want to watch the Reds,

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Speaker 11: this is a great a great way to do it

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Speaker 11: if you don't have access.

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Speaker 1: What I like about it is there's a degree of

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Speaker 1: off to a good start, I'll renew for May, and

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Speaker 1: then suddenly the season craters and it's the middle of July,

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Speaker 1: which hopefully this isn't the case, and there are a

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Speaker 1: thousand games at a first place. You go, you know what, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not getting it for August and September, so you

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Speaker 1: have to bring people back. That is good, It is good.

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Speaker 11: It puts it back in the power of the consumer,

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01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 11: which I think is great, and you're not having to

1283
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 11: strap yourself to it, and I think it's great Major

1284
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 11: League offered. I think it's one ninety nine. You can

1285
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 11: watch anything whenever you won. I mean, I grew up

1286
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 11: with you in the nineties, the unbelievable championship that we

1287
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 11: had when we were kids. There is an air of

1288
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 11: excitement right now about our beloved Reds and who knows

1289
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 11: this could be interesting my great way to watch it.

1290
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Speaker 1: Help me with this though, and because you could apply

1291
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: this to regular Yahoo's like me. So Sinclair borrowed in

1292
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen ninety billion dollars. Now you said, well, COVID happened,

1293
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: but it's not like cord cutting wasn't happening. I was

1294
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So so this this day has always seemed inevitable.

1295
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm no business expert, but there's some followy folly and

1296
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: borrowing that kind of money for something that is already

1297
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: they made a bad bet.

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Speaker 11: And really what we've seen is almost forty percent of

1299
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 11: people are are cord cutting and getting subscription TV.

1300
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: Here here's the example, and I love this.

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 11: I wish I came up with this, and I didn't,

1302
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 11: but but it would be the equivalent of taking a

1303
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 11: second mortgage out on your home and then putting all

1304
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 11: that buying Blockbuster before Netflix. I mean, shot me bleah.

1305
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 11: It's just a bad business deal and and it sunk.

1306
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 11: And I think it's interesting that major League Baseball is

1307
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 11: recognizing this and stepping in. It's gonna be interesting in

1308
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 11: the beginning, I do think long term this could be great.

1309
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 11: I mean, go, how many things you can subscribe to.

1310
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 11: You're talking about FC Cincinnati, Apple TV can get on there.

1311
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 11: There's so many ways you can watch sports that is

1312
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 11: catered to you. And we are the home of the Reds. Man,

1313
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 11: So I think there's some upside to this.

1314
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: I do wonder though, because there's a lot of folks.

1315
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: I think if you love the Reds and that's it,

1316
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: you're good. But if you're like me and you love

1317
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: all the sports, all the sports, and like NFL games

1318
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: are all over the place. I love the NBA. There's

1319
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways to watch NBA games, college basketball.

1320
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: I gotta subscribe to Peacock and I gotta have ESPN Plus.

1321
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: You're lighting on, but you're spending one hundred and eighty bucks.

1322
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: I goes to what that used to be? Right? But

1323
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: you're doing on what you want to watch.

1324
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 11: It's not if you're watching the Hallmark channel, you want

1325
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 11: to watch it Christmas time, it's a great time for

1326
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 11: a box of Greenexes.

1327
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: Well, but then my wife has to watch Bravo, so

1328
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 1: I like, you know, I got to watch all those

1329
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: the bad reality show God bless you. I'm so sorry. Yeah,

1330
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: maybe there's a marital issue there that perhaps there am

1331
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: not beyond your purview's let's stay with the Reds. So

1332
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: there was a piece that came out the day after

1333
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: opening day and it was in the Business Courier and

1334
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: it sort of took a look at the positives and

1335
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: the downside of twenty years of current ownership, and there

1336
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: was a passage in there that I think stood out

1337
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: to a lot of people and it read, the Reds

1338
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: are worth one point sixty seven billion dollars billion, one

1339
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: point sixty eight over a five hundred percent increase.

1340
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 11: Yeah from what the team was bought it at two

1341
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 11: hundred and seventy million in two thousand and six.

1342
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: Incredible, So wenty years ago. There's a lot of folks

1343
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: who see that and go, well, see they should be

1344
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: paying more for players. Well, yeah, I mean that.

1345
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 10: I think.

1346
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 11: Let me ask you this, bro as your house gone

1347
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 11: up in value? Yeah, pretty well is mine?

1348
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can you go spend all that tomorrow? I'd like to,

1349
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: but no.

1350
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 11: Right, So, if you had a house it's two hundred thousand,

1351
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 11: it's now half a million. That helps your net worth,

1352
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 11: but that's not income.

1353
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't have a half million of my checking out. Yeah,

1354
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: you just don't.

1355
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 11: The only way to do that is you put it

1356
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 11: for sales side in there and you're amazing home, and

1357
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 11: someone buys it and then you can choose to do

1358
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 11: with whatever you want. I think we forget that the

1359
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 11: value of a business is different than income. I think

1360
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 11: many folks fake of their net worth. We look at

1361
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 11: net worth folks all the time in the office. Well,

1362
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 11: I've got my house, I've got this, I've got that,

1363
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 11: I got my four.

1364
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: To one K. Great, where's the income?

1365
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 9: Right?

1366
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 11: And there is a difference, and you gotta look and understand.

1367
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 11: I'm not. I mean, there's a lot of things we

1368
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 11: can do better. I love the fact that we're eight

1369
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 11: and three. We've been on it all the way. Today

1370
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 11: we're not even hitting yet, but one point six to

1371
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 11: eight billion. Listen to this. The Twins we're beating the

1372
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 11: Minnesota Twins one point sixty five. Pirates are one point

1373
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 11: sixty four, the Royals one point sixty three. And this

1374
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 11: is why I said we're going to sweep the Marrows

1375
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 11: one point four.

1376
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: We're better on the field, we're.

1377
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 11: Better in the management. We're still at the bottom of

1378
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 11: the wrong in Major League Baseball, and it's tough when

1379
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 11: you're looking at income and when you're looking at salaries,

1380
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 11: you're losing some of that revenue share right now that

1381
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 11: we just talked about Auchi Mauchi. I think it's why

1382
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 11: a lot of these teams that in the offseason probably

1383
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 11: didn't spin the way that they our fans would have hoped.

1384
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: It's because the revenue is getting cut. Bro, Income's getting cut.

1385
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: What's that going to mean? I guess there's twofold one

1386
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: is going back to the previous topic. So you're not

1387
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: getting as much revenue from your TV deal if you're

1388
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: not getting those rights fees. What impact may that have?

1389
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: And then what impact may a work stoppage in twenty

1390
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: twenty seven have on this? Well?

1391
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, good luck on that. Wouldn't that be wild? God

1392
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 11: bless baseball. I mean, when we're growing up, it was

1393
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 11: the most popular sport. I mean, everyone knew every player.

1394
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 11: It was great. I could tell you any player. And

1395
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 11: then we had the strike and we had another one.

1396
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 11: And it'll be interesting to see how that hand or

1397
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 11: higher hammer's out.

1398
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 8: Bro.

1399
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 11: But I think when you're looking at the Reds revenues,

1400
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 11: approximately three hundred and fifty one million, but they're paying

1401
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 11: one hundred and fifteen million around that in salaries, and

1402
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 11: so earnings before interest and taxes and deductions and ammidation

1403
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 11: IBADAD is forty five mili. It's tough when you're looking

1404
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 11: at income and your competitor across the street. Here, you

1405
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 11: look at LA Go across the Great vs. United States

1406
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 11: of America, and their payroll is three hundred million. They

1407
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 11: just have more revenue. There's more people. So it is

1408
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 11: a catch twenty two, and it is tough to see

1409
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 11: where we're at. It'll be interesting to see what happens

1410
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 11: with the workshop stoppage. If that happens, I mean new dates,

1411
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 11: it might help us in the long run. Yeah, you know,

1412
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 11: short term, I don't know, bro, It's not my problem

1413
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 11: economic structuring in the game. I think most people are

1414
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 11: in favor of I think you will have folks who see, well,

1415
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 11: they've the value of the franchise has gone up by

1416
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 11: more than five hundred percent. Yeah, everybody, your neighbor, right,

1417
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 11: So that's basically just a sign of just everything appreciates well,

1418
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 11: I mean is I mean, look what we've seen happen

1419
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 11: with DraftKings and fan duels and it's bringing the attention

1420
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 11: to the gaming, and it's it's amazing. I go to

1421
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 11: some of these conferences, investment conferences, and everybody's on their

1422
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 11: phone and I'm like, am I missing some news? And

1423
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 11: I walk by, I know they're all putting bets, right,

1424
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 11: It's just crazy. It's like you're in Vegas twenty four

1425
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 11: to seven. That's bringing eyes and people to the games, right,

1426
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 11: And so I we're getting we're getting that aspect. But man,

1427
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 11: I don't know, bro, it's a weird mix. And you

1428
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 11: got to realize that the appreciation is growing. But it's

1429
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 11: pretty hard to say, well, you've got this business, it's

1430
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 11: worth this, but go spend more. Your house is worth more,

1431
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 11: your net worth is worth more. But income is different

1432
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 11: than net worth. And I think a lot of us

1433
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 11: forget that. And it comes down to it.

1434
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us forget that when it

1435
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: comes to just our own finances correct much less baseball correct.

1436
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 11: I mean, you got a house, you can be house

1437
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 11: poor man. You can have a house that you bought

1438
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 11: for two hunred thousand, it's worth a million bucks, But

1439
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 11: you don't have enough money to go to Myrtle Beach

1440
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 11: or down in Gallinburg and see Dollywood. I mean, yeah,

1441
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 11: it's cash flow and it means everything in retirement means

1442
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 11: everything when you're getting ready to work. What you're doing,

1443
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 11: it's no different than a business. That evaluation is great,

1444
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 11: but you got to turn that into cabbage pro.

1445
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: One thing that baseball is focusing on, and I've read

1446
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,440
Speaker 1: this with the commissioners. His objective is to increase valuations

1447
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: for baseball teams relative to their counterparts in the NBA

1448
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: and in the NFL. Well, how does that happen? How

1449
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: does that happen? A good question.

1450
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 11: I mean, look right now, I guarantee, if you go

1451
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 11: to a great school, you could probably say who are

1452
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 11: the top ten football players? They could rattle it off tomorrow.

1453
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 11: Probably in basketball, probably get five or six. Baseball tough,

1454
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 11: it goes down. Boy, I feel like I'm being poop

1455
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 11: poo on baseball. But when you look at the marketing

1456
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 11: that the NFL has done over the last twenty thirty years,

1457
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 11: and you look at the marketing that NBA has done,

1458
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 11: and then compared to the marketing.

1459
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: Of baseball, it is a big, big difference.

1460
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 11: And that's where I think the subscription thing with MLB,

1461
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 11: man they could pull this off, because if they can

1462
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 11: get into that heartbeat are those teenagers now and start

1463
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 11: getting baseball hooked in, My god, this thing can flip

1464
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 11: in ten to fifteen years pretty heavily because what they've

1465
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 11: done with the game, what they've done with the pitch count,

1466
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 11: they sped it. I'm gonna used to go down there

1467
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 11: and you're like, I'm gonna be down here for six hours.

1468
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 1: Nay, nay. It's fabulous.

1469
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 11: So I think they're making the changes they need to,

1470
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 11: but my god, they need a marketing department to hammer

1471
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 11: in this new generation.

1472
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: I think they've done a lot of really good things

1473
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: over the last two or three years. The problem is

1474
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: those things should have been done twenty years ago. They're

1475
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: playing at your lips to God's ears.

1476
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 11: I mean, we've all been saying that it's been a debacle,

1477
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 11: but it's exciting, man.

1478
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: Even look what we've done at the What a great

1479
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: ballpark we have. Yeah, you travel around.

1480
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 11: We have some amazing bait ballparks all across the United States,

1481
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 11: but bro, we're best. Great American is a special.

1482
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 1: Place when the difference is and I have to about

1483
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: this with the workstopage thirty years ago, thirty two years ago,

1484
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,879
Speaker 1: or even going back further eighty one strike baseball owners

1485
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: owned baseball teams and that was like their primary source

1486
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: of income. Now there's a lot of baseball owners that's

1487
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: part of their portfolio. It's one of the portfolios. So

1488
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: like does that what does that do to the franchise valuation? Well,

1489
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: it brings it back down to dollars and cents. Let

1490
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: me think about it.

1491
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 11: If you've got this one business that's pulling in this

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Speaker 11: and this is how much cash ffall you're getting off

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Speaker 11: of it, it doesn't matter what it's worth, right well, as

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Speaker 11: you're gonna put debt on it, and you've got all

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Speaker 11: those other businesses, you've got to make sure they go

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Speaker 11: as well. So I do think it comes down to

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Speaker 11: the dollar incense. And clearly baseball in this town and

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Speaker 11: many others was going on a dying It was on

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Speaker 11: a dying network reaches for an hour, people weren't winning.

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Speaker 11: So I think it's we're all shocked by it because

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Speaker 11: it happened quickly. But I do feel this could help

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Speaker 11: us in the long run because those that can get

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Speaker 11: their hooks into baseball. Now, and I know it's nine

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Speaker 11: nine bucks, but my guy, I mean, go my wife

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Speaker 11: and I went to Skyland the other night. Angel and

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Speaker 11: I go to Skyland. We get a couple Conyes, I

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Speaker 11: get a nice tea, she gets a die. Come right, bro,

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Speaker 11: it's thirty five bucks. I think that's the best thirty

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Speaker 11: five bucks you can spend whenever you're feeling good in

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Speaker 11: Huntred right, and it is great, but you know what

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Speaker 11: I'm saying, ninety nine in the in the realm of things,

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Speaker 11: but it does get expensive if you're trying to watch

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Speaker 11: that soccer and this and that there. It can't but

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Speaker 11: it allows you to customize the menu.

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Speaker 1: What I think will be interesting is with the regional

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Speaker 1: sports networks. That's not just baseball, the clubs, Blue Jackets,

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Speaker 1: so the Cleveland Cavaliers, a lot of NBA and NHL teams,

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Speaker 1: So where those franchises go with their media rights, what

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Speaker 1: those leagues do is going to be interesting times. Are

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Speaker 1: Chiem't you go have to watch a little bit of

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Speaker 1: that Dayton the Dragons up there? That would be cool

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Speaker 1: to that.

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Speaker 11: I think there's a lot of things they can do

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Speaker 11: with this. It's just the beginning, but hopefully we're getting

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Speaker 11: it on the right trap.

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Speaker 11: Well, thank god you said that's six fifty six fifty

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Speaker 11: that way.

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Speaker 1: gonna give you a shout out next week. The place

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Speaker 1: up and recapping last night's ninth dinning as well, plus

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Speaker 1: how to bet the Masters in the five o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: That was loud. It's five minutes after five o'clock. This

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Speaker 1: Hopefully having a Wednesday and awesome Wednesday. By the way,

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Speaker 1: as an issue of clarification, I guess Reese Hine stepped

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Speaker 1: away from the Louisville Bats for a funeral, so that

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Speaker 1: answers that question. Lance McCallister shed some light on that

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Speaker 1: because he's Lance McAllister, and I'm not so there you

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Speaker 1: go Red's and Marlins. Tonight later on this hour, our

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Speaker 1: guy Will Grimmer, the official golf expert of our show,

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Speaker 1: is going to join us in just about thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: and again that if you want your swing fixed, you

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Speaker 1: should go see I've gone to see him. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure how much my swing has been fixed, because I'm

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Speaker 1: just naturally bad, but he has done wonders for my

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Speaker 1: game and can do wonders for you. And he's gonna

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Speaker 1: help us with the Masters. I love to bet on

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Speaker 1: the Masters. We'll get to that coming up in just

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Speaker 1: about thirty minutes. I was just listening there to the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour and it made me think about

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Speaker 1: college basketball and something that college basketball has that the

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Speaker 1: NBA does not. We will spend some time on that.

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Speaker 1: We have a Bengals question that looms by the way,

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Speaker 1: we have a poll question on Twitter at Moeger and

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01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: I need help with this because I'm not sure the

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Speaker 1: poll feature on Twitter is working like it should. And

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Speaker 1: that Elon Musk guy bought Twitter a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: And I have no real opinion of him, but when

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Speaker 1: he bought Twitter, a lot of people were like, great,

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Speaker 1: now it's ruined. And I will be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: my Twitter experiences pretty much the same. But the one

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Speaker 1: area where it has felt like over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, it hasn't been as good as compiling pole questions.

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Speaker 1: So I have one that's on Twitter now thanks to

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Speaker 1: United Heartland Insurance. I'm just not completely sure that it's working.

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Speaker 1: It's about the ABS system in baseball, which has been awesome.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of awesome, the ninth inning last night was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Reg beat the Marlins. Circle that game. Circle that game

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01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 1: last night, because you know, we'll see what happens this evening.

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Speaker 1: But how many games can you win that you're not

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01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: supposed to Let's be honest, the Reds were not supposed

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Speaker 1: to win that game. Sandy al Contra was awesome last night.

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Speaker 1: This has been so far, frankly, a pretty feeble hitting team.

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Speaker 1: They were down two runs going into the ninth inning.

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Speaker 1: That's obviously not an insurmountable deficit, but just to illustrate

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Speaker 1: it for you, in the ninth inning last night, I

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Speaker 1: went into my kitchen pantry to hide from my family

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: to look up at the betting odds of the Reds

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Speaker 1: at that point, going into the ninth inning, down by two,

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Speaker 1: it was a plus twelve hundred on FanDuel. Yet they

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Speaker 1: come back and they tied the game of the ninth

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Speaker 1: They win the game in the tenth. This team is

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Speaker 1: already tied its longest winning streak from last season. That's

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Speaker 1: something we talked about nearly two weeks ago. Like their

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Speaker 1: longest winning streak was five games, their longest losing streak

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01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: was five games. Chances are their longest winning streak or

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Speaker 1: losing streak, one of them is going to be longer

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Speaker 1: than five games. It would be awesome if it was

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Speaker 1: the winning streak. So far, eleven games into the season,

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Speaker 1: they've tied last season's longest winning streak. They have won

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Speaker 1: one fewer extra inning game than they won all of

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Speaker 1: last season. They're winning close games. They're winning in spite

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Speaker 1: of themselves. This team is eight and three. The offense

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01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been good. It's okay to say that this team

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Speaker 1: is eight and three without Hunter Green, without Nicklodolo. They're

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Speaker 1: eight and three despite having a huge experience gap in

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Speaker 1: the back end of their rotation. They're eight and three

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Speaker 1: in large part because last night in the ninth inning,

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Speaker 1: they played aggressively. They took advantage of a weapon, Ellie

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Speaker 1: Dela Cruz. As much as anything is a weapon, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Ellie in the ninth inning last night. He

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Speaker 1: was obviously not the only reason why they won the game.

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01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: They won the game because they stayed close with decent

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Speaker 1: starting pitching, very good bullpen work. This team continues to

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: play excellent offense. By the way, that bad obstruction call

1632
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: on Matt McClain last night has been switched to a

1633
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: stolen base, so they still have no errors on their

1634
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: ledger this year. That is not insignificant. Ellie's been a

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Speaker 1: part of that. But I loved the ninth inning from Ellie,

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01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: Dela Cruz and Tito Francona last night. Start with the

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: at bat, Matt McClain hits a double with one out

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Speaker 1: of the ninth inning, Ellie is the tying run. Now,

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: if you're like most of us, you're thinking Ellie can

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Speaker 1: tie the game with one swing. How do you not

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01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: right a blast or in that case, a line drive

1642
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 1: doubled down the left field line and a blast. Ellie

1643
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: came to the plate and took five pitches. The two

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: oz pitch that he took, he obviously had no intention

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: of swinging, and you might say that's not that big

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01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: of a deal. He took four pitches out of the

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Speaker 1: strike zone, and he took a two zero pitch for

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Speaker 1: a strike. A lot of hitters do that. But like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm making this out to be

1650
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 1: a bigger deal than it is. Often during his time

1651
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: as a big leaguer, we have seen Ellie struggle with

1652
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: lack of patients at the plate, seeing it on a

1653
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,440
Speaker 1: number of occasions, lack of patients, lack of discipline at

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01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: the plate. If there is a spot where you might

1655
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: expect him to be, you know, trying to hit the

1656
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: ball out of the ballpark or trying to do a

1657
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: little bit too much, it's tying run one out, bottom nine, sorry,

1658
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:50,759
Speaker 1: top nine, two nothing ballgame. Instead, he took five pitches,

1659
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: he works a walk, wasn't the longest at bat. The

1660
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: pitches that he took weren't wildly out of the strike zone,

1661
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: but they were pretty obviously ball. He didn't have to

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01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: use the ABS challenge during the ad bet. But I

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: loved that. I love that because I cannot tell you

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: how many times since he became a big leaguer. As

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Speaker 1: much as we all love Ellie, or at least as

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: most does much of us love Ellie, I can't tell

1667
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: you how many times there have been situations like that

1668
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: where it feels like Ellie is trying to do a

1669
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: little bit too much. And last night, as they say

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Speaker 1: in other sports, he kind of let the game come

1671
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: to him. Cool put me on base. Once they put

1672
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: him on base, they had a double steal. I loved that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to force the issue. Look, we're not hitting

1674
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: a ton here now with Ellie. You could argue you're

1675
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: not gonna need to string together a couple of hits

1676
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: because maybe he could score from first. We've seen him

1677
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: do it earlier this week. But still we're not hitting

1678
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Speaker 1: a ton. Let's force the issue a little bit here.

1679
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: Let's try a double steal. Let's put the tying run

1680
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: in scoring position with less than two outs the double steal.

1681
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, you have two out to play with.

1682
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: You really have one out to play with. If Matt

1683
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: McClain gets thrown out as the lead runner, or if

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: they throw to second, which I don't think they would

1685
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: do and nab Ellie de la Cruz at the very least,

1686
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,759
Speaker 1: you still have the tying run at the plate, albeit

1687
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Speaker 1: with one out. But I loved forcing the issue a

1688
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: little bit. By the way, it worked great because sal

1689
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 1: Stewart hits a sacrifice fly to right field. Ellie de

1690
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 1: la Cruz moves up to third and then he scores

1691
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: on the ball that gets away. And what I loved

1692
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: about that was, screw it. I'm taking matters into my

1693
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: own hands. And you and I both know if Ellie

1694
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: would have been tagged out at the plate, he would

1695
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: have been criticized. That criticism would have been unwarranted. To

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: hell with it. One of our best assets on this

1697
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: team is my speed. Balls in the dirt. I'm going

1698
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: the play at the plate wasn't close, wasn't ever really

1699
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: a play at the plate. He tied, the game, game

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01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: goes extra innings day win. Mention this briefly before that,

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01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Lowe at that where he gets the hit just

1702
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: out of the reach of the shortstop in the tenthening

1703
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: completely professional plate appearance to strike short in the swings,

1704
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: choke up on the bat a little bit, and just

1705
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: try to not do too much with the pitch, kind

1706
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: of hit it where it's pitched. It gave the Reds

1707
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 1: a lead. They would then score more runs. Matt McClain

1708
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: with a big hit. It's exactly why they got Nathaniel Lowe.

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01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: I love though the ninth inning last night, using Ellie's

1710
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: speed him making a decisive play, him being patient at

1711
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 1: the plate, and if the double steal doesn't work, Tito

1712
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: is probably getting some questions after the game about double

1713
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: stealing in that situation. Now, double stealing in that situation

1714
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: I think made all the sense in the world. But

1715
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: we used to talk about this with other coaches and

1716
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: managers making decisions not worrying about the second guessing. If

1717
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: there is a manager in the sport who shouldn't have

1718
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: to worry about second guessing after the game, it's Tito.

1719
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: Still I loved it. They win their eight and three.

1720
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: They tried to make it six straight wins tonight. Last

1721
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: night was a game maybe worth circling. We'll see the

1722
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: other thing about Ellie, And again it's eleven games. It's

1723
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: not a huge sample size. This is easy to look

1724
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: up and maybe somebody already has. Has Ellie Dela Cruz,

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01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: a shortstop as a Big leaguer ever played eleven games

1726
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: without making an error. He had a play kind of

1727
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: in the hole last night where it wasn't the most

1728
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: picturesque throw. He goes and he gets it, and he

1729
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: threw like a nine hopper over to Sal Stewart at

1730
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: first base to get the hitter. That's a ball that

1731
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: I think last year he might have flung wildly and

1732
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: it might not have been in the same zip code

1733
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: of first base. Like this is a story this year,

1734
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he has errors coming, but you know,

1735
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: last season, it was completely reasonable to feel totally exasperated

1736
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: with Ellie Delacruz's defense, and I join the chorus of

1737
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: people who wonder is he really best suited at shortstop?

1738
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: Is he best suited playing shortstop? And as long as

1739
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: his defensive issues persisted, those questions were going to get louder,

1740
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: and they were only going to be more fair as

1741
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: time went on. Got to the point last season when

1742
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: a ball was hit in his direction you kind of

1743
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: held your breath. Now, maybe he still has some of

1744
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: those moments in front of him, but so far this year,

1745
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: he's made every play. So far this year, there have

1746
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: been no reasons to talk about him playing a different position.

1747
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: We talk all the time about the Ellie Dela Cruz

1748
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: leap and when it's going to happen, if it's going

1749
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 1: to happen, what it's going to look like, if it

1750
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: does happen, what happens if it doesn't happen, How this

1751
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: team kind of needs it to happen, and that's offensively

1752
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,839
Speaker 1: obviously kind of wrap your brain around with the numbers

1753
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: will look like if he does make the leap. But

1754
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 1: it's also end once and for all the skepticism that

1755
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: he's best suited to play shortstop. Only he can do

1756
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: that so far, and again, it's only eleven games, but

1757
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: so far, so good. A quarter after five on ESPN

1758
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. We'll try to squeeze some in five point

1759
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: three seven four nine fifteen thirty the pole question thanks

1760
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: to United Heartland Insurance, which may or may not be working.

1761
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 1: Two weeks of ABS and MLB vote either it's great

1762
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: or it sucks. It's great. There's a piece in The

1763
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: Athletic Today by Ken Rosenthal that is I think fair

1764
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: and good. But the general theme of the piece is

1765
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: that there are some umpires who fear that ABS is

1766
01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: causing fans to judge them by near impossible stand and

1767
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm reading Ken's tweet. The story is very good. I

1768
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: know I touched on ABS last week. I think what

1769
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: it has done for most and you can tell me

1770
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: if you disagree. I think it's actually highlighted a how

1771
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: hard the job of umpiring behind the plate in a

1772
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball game is and b how good most

1773
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: of those guys really are. I'm sure there have been

1774
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: exceptions to this, but most ABS challenges that I've seen,

1775
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: the calls, frankly haven't been that obvious. The pitches for

1776
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 1: the most part have been pretty close. And when you

1777
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 1: look at the ABS challenge, when you look at the

1778
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: video that is shown on TV or at the ballpark,

1779
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: for the most part, I think you see like how

1780
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: close how close the pitch could be, or how close

1781
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: the pitch is to the plate, to the corner, to

1782
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: the top of the zone, to the bottom of the zone,

1783
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: whether it's correctly called or not. Like I watched that

1784
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: and go like, dude, human eye, you could see why,

1785
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that pitch that was barely barely nicked

1786
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: the inside corner of the plate, you could see why

1787
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: the umpire would call it a ball, or you could

1788
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 1: see why that pitch was, you know, called a strike

1789
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: even though it just it barely barely missed. I think

1790
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: what it has done for most fans is it's given

1791
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: appreciation of how hard that job is. I think it's

1792
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: been of great benefit to the umpires. Is it outing

1793
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: bad ones. Sure, if you're repeatedly challenged and your calls

1794
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: are repeatedly overturned, maybe you have a problem. But like

1795
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know that we've had a

1796
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: ton of reviews where the call that was missed was

1797
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: egregiously bad for the most part. And I've not watched

1798
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: every inning of every Major League Baseball game played this year,

1799
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: but I think for the most part, when you've seen

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01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: the pitches that have been challenged, whether they've been overturned

1801
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: or upheld, for the most part, they've been close, and

1802
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: for the most part, umpires get those calls correct, And

1803
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: so I think ABS has amplified that. It's also added

1804
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: another layer of strategy. A lot of baseball strategy has

1805
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: kind of been taken out of the game. For fans

1806
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: who used to love double switches, we really don't do

1807
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 1: those anymore because the pitcher doesn't bat. This has added

1808
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: a layer of strategy, and the players are the ones

1809
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: in charge of the strategy when to challenge, when to

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01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: hold onto a challenge. Do I challenge a pitch in

1811
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: the second inning, or do we hold onto our challenge

1812
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: even though a pitch in the second inning being overturned?

1813
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: Maybe the trajectory of the game is changed. It's added

1814
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: an element of strategy. I think it's highlighted how hard

1815
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,480
Speaker 1: of a job the umpires have. I think it's highlighted

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01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: really how good they actually are. And more than anything,

1817
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: and this is not the first time I've talked to this,

1818
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: it is removed personalized strike zones. The strike zone has

1819
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: never been designed to be interpreted. It's been designed to

1820
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: be enforced. And for years decades watching this sport, you know,

1821
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: you would look at umpires and go, this guy has

1822
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: a high strike zone. This guy's not gonna call the

1823
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: low strike. This guy is gonna give a picture an

1824
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: extra inch, an extra half inch on both sides of

1825
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: the plate. This umpire will give a picture a little

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01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: bit more on the outside of the plate, but not

1827
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: so much the inside corner. Like that's not how it's

1828
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: supposed to work. And sure there's some beauty in pictures

1829
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: manipulating the strike zone, but okay, that's that's never been

1830
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: though in terms of it enforcing the strike zone and

1831
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: calling balls and strikes. It's never supposed to be personalized.

1832
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: It's never supposed to be so that one umpire has

1833
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: one strike zone and another umpire has a different strike zone.

1834
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: It's we don't do that anymore. And that's good. That's

1835
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: good the players, it's good for fans. Frankly, it's good

1836
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: for umpires. Two twenty minutes after five o'clock. Plus, it's quick,

1837
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: it's not intrusive, it doesn't get in the way. It's

1838
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:17,799
Speaker 1: kind of entertaining. Fans cheer fans. It's terrific. So anyway,

1839
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: if the poll function on Twitter is working, you can vote.

1840
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 1: And if it's not working, that's not my fault. Twenty

1841
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: after five o'clock at Moulager on Twitter is where you

1842
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: can vote again, thanks to United Heartland Insurance. Good stuff

1843
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: from earlier today from Joe Goodberry on the Bengals draft.

1844
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of a question that looms

1845
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks that we'll get to

1846
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 1: coming up here in just a bit. And transfer portal

1847
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: is open. We talked about Jisel James jumping to the

1848
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: portal and apparently not going to be a Bearcat anymore.

1849
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: If you are listening to the larger conversations around the NBA,

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01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:02,759
Speaker 1: I will trade as a college NBA fan. I will

1851
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I will gladly take college basketball is issues ahead of

1852
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: what they're dealing with in the NBA. Will spend a

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01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,719
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Speaker 1: show and assuming you're with us tomorrow, Tomorrow's show and

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01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Friday's show and the shows from earlier this week. Although

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01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Monday show is terrible only because of my individual performance.

1872
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Joe Goodberry was on our show before you know what

1873
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. Danner was with us yesterday.

1874
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: If you missed that conversation, it's available on the iHeartRadio app.

1875
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,440
Speaker 1: And we he and I talked a lot about options

1876
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: at cornerback. And you know, you hear people say all

1877
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: the time, you can't have enough corners. There's some good

1878
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: ones there at number ten they made have a chance

1879
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: to take the first corner in this draft. You could

1880
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: use more you could use more depth behind the guys

1881
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: you have. And as you know Paul pointed out yesterday,

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01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: you know a lot of us look at Dax Hill

1883
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: and DJ Turner as those are two players they should resign.

1884
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Those are two players they are going to resign. Bengals

1885
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: History would suggest that that that's not the most likely

1886
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: outcome doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. And yeah, they

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01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: did it with Chase and Higgins. They needed Joe Burrow

1888
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 1: to publicly beg to sign T Higgins. For them to

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01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: sign T Higgins extreme outlier there. So let's say they

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01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: take a corner. If they take a corner with the

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01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: tenth overall pick, that would strongly suggest that they're not

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01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: going to sign both DJ Turner and Dax Hill. May

1893
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: sign one, may sign neither before camp. Who knows, But

1894
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair to wonder this. Recent Bengals

1895
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 1: off seasons have been dominated by holdouts, hold ins, contract issues,

1896
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: contract questions. If they take a corner with a tenth

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01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: overall pick, and that suggests that they're not going to

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01:33:54,640 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: sign both DJ Turner and Dax Hill. First of all,

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01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: you ask which one will they get a deal done with?

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01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: DJ Turner was the better player last year. But whichever

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01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: one they don't get a deal done with? Is that

1902
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 1: guy gonna make a stink? Is that guy gonna have

1903
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: a hold out? Is that guy gonna have a hold in? Now?

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01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: I know among us, I can hear folks going that

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01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: won't happen. Sure, man. Just look at recent history. There

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01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: have been a lot of very good players, have been

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01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 1: a lot of players who are very very popular who

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01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: weren't very happy with what the Bengals did with their

1909
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Speaker 1: contract or didn't do with their contract, to held out,

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Speaker 1: held in that sort of thing. One of the things,

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Speaker 1: in the absence of Trey Hendrickson being here, one of

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Speaker 1: the things you wonder is okay, who's next? Now? Maybe

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Speaker 1: the next contract dispute will not take on a life

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Speaker 1: of its own the way Trey Hendrickson's did. But how

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Speaker 1: do you not wonder that? How do you not really

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Speaker 1: wonder it? If you have two corners who are both

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Speaker 1: looking for a extensions, if one doesn't get one and

1918
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Speaker 1: the other guy did, do we really believe that whoever

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Speaker 1: that player is is going to take that quietly, take

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Speaker 1: that a nod along, and not make at least a

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Speaker 1: little stink about it worth wondering, worth paying attention to,

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Speaker 1: and to me becomes one of the bigger questions of

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Speaker 1: the offseason if they use the tenth overall pick or

1924
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Speaker 1: even another early ish pick on a cornerback. The Masters

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Speaker 1: is set to begin. Our golf guy joins us next.

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Speaker 1: Sports headlines coming up in a few minutes. This is

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Oleger twenty five from six o'clock.

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Speaker 1: But the Master starts tomorrow and the official golf expert

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Speaker 1: of this show is Will Grimmer, golf pro, Ohio state legend,

1942
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Speaker 1: Marymont legend, friend of the show, Bengals fan, Reds fan,

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Speaker 1: and a legendary golf instructor who has even tried to

1944
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Speaker 1: fix my swing. Hi Will.

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Speaker 9: O, how are you?

1946
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Speaker 1: I'm excited for this weekend? How are you?

1947
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Speaker 8: Oh? I mean the Reds are eight and three, It's

1948
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Speaker 8: Master's Week and my birthday falls on Master Sunday, so

1949
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Speaker 8: I have no complaints.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well, I kind of want to know what's going

1951
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Speaker 1: to be happening on Sunday. Now, give me one or

1952
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Speaker 1: two storylines that interest you most heading into tomorrow.

1953
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Speaker 8: Boy, there's a lot I think it's it's h you

1954
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 8: know a lot of experts have kind of said this

1955
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 8: week that this is kind of the true passing of

1956
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Speaker 8: the guard, the first time since I think nineteen ninety

1957
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Speaker 8: four that either Tiger nor Phil are playing in the Masters,

1958
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Speaker 8: and so definitely a new era for for the Masters here.

1959
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Speaker 8: And you know, obviously Scottie Rory defending his title, and

1960
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Speaker 8: I think a very hungry Justin Rose, who's been playing

1961
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 8: some unbelievable golf at forty six and coming off the

1962
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Speaker 8: heels of losing a playoff last year, though certainly kind

1963
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Speaker 8: of struck me as the top three.

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Speaker 1: If I am going into this wanting to pick an

1965
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Speaker 1: outright winner who is maybe not a popular pick, where

1966
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Speaker 1: should I look?

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Speaker 8: I mean, to be honest, I really I really love Rose.

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Speaker 8: I think Rose is someone that yes he's top ten

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Speaker 8: in the world ranking, but at forty six, I don't

1970
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Speaker 8: necessarily know that that many people are picking him to

1971
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Speaker 8: win compared to guys say like Bryson or Rory or

1972
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 8: Scottie or even say Cameron Young fresh off of his

1973
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Speaker 8: Players Championship victory. But I just think Rose is such

1974
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 8: a great iron player, top five in strokes gained to

1975
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Speaker 8: approach the green, and with this weather forecast this week,

1976
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Speaker 8: iron play with firm greens is going to be imperative,

1977
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Speaker 8: and so I love the guys that can get the

1978
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Speaker 8: ball close to the hole coming into the greens.

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Speaker 1: For the reasons you just articulated, Cameron Young is very popular.

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Speaker 1: Steer me either in his direction or away from him.

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Speaker 8: I love Cameron Young, I think, you know, especially being partial,

1982
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Speaker 8: he was the guy whorew up playing a lot of

1983
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Speaker 8: junior in college golf with was a close friend of his.

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Speaker 8: He's always had supreme length. You know, people are still

1985
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Speaker 8: raving about that three hundred and seventy five yard drive

1986
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Speaker 8: on eighteenth the players one of the best pride t

1987
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Speaker 8: shots I've ever seen under the the situation. I think

1988
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Speaker 8: he's always kind of weakness that maybe he struggled with

1989
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Speaker 8: was his wedge play and being able to really control

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Speaker 8: it coming into the greens from inside of say one

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Speaker 8: twenty five. But he is really really up that part

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Speaker 8: of his game in these last couple of years, and

1993
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Speaker 8: I feel like right now, especially these last six weeks.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's probably never been stronger, and.

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Speaker 8: So I think, especially coming off of the heels of

1996
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Speaker 8: a big win, now that that monkey's off of his back.

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Speaker 8: He's always been close, he's always been in contention, but

1998
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Speaker 8: he might be freed up a little bit to really

1999
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Speaker 8: go make some noise this week at Augusta.

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Speaker 1: Is there a player who you look at and go,

2001
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Speaker 1: you know what, probably not to win, but you wouldn't

2002
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,560
Speaker 1: be surprised to see him atop the leaderboard at the

2003
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Speaker 1: end of play tomorrow. That makes sense.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely have a few of those. I really like

2005
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 8: jig Nap. I think he's a guy who won. He

2006
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 8: bombs the ball and again looks for distance to be supreme.

2007
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Speaker 8: With the firm conditions this week, just having shorter clubs

2008
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 8: in your hand is gonna simply just allow you to

2009
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 8: have a little bit more control coming into these you know,

2010
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 8: green complexes at Augusta. And so I think someone like Jake,

2011
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 8: who's also second in strokes gain putting this season on

2012
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 8: the PGA Tour, just has some absurd length off the

2013
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Speaker 8: tee and so that's certainly someone that again hasn't really

2014
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 8: been proven in the major championships. Same thing with the

2015
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 8: guy like Min mu Lee, even the Sam Stevens who's

2016
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 8: the top fifteen in driving. But look for someone like

2017
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 8: that and if you want just kind of a true,

2018
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 8: kind of fun dark horse, I think he's one of

2019
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 8: the ascending talents on the PJ Tour. Chris Gotrup again

2020
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 8: absolutely destroys the ball. Three wins in the past I

2021
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 8: think fifteen months, maybe just over a year on the

2022
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 8: PGA Tour. I think he's twenty four to twenty five,

2023
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 8: great young player Rutgers and then transferred Oklahoma. Really just

2024
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 8: fun personality, fun guy to watch, and I could see

2025
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 8: him now again. It's his first time around AUGUSTA history

2026
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Speaker 8: shows that first time players, no one's won on the

2027
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 8: first time since Raymond Floyd in nineteen seventy nine. So

2028
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 8: keep that at bay. But if you're looking for a

2029
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 8: fun Thursday Friday play from a BANG perspective, Chris Godrup

2030
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 8: could be certainly a fun wager.

2031
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to slander any professional golfer,

2032
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 1: but is there a big name that a lot of

2033
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: people may be looking at that you would maybe steer

2034
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 1: clear off.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's a few that I think Justin Thomas

2036
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 8: is one of them, Jordan Spieth, Tommy Fleetwood. Now again,

2037
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 8: if you're looking for a top fifteen, top ten play,

2038
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 8: Fleetwoods actually a great pick if you're looking for someone

2039
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 8: to outright win. I steer away a little bit from

2040
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 8: Fleetwood just because he's won one time on the PGA Tour.

2041
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 8: He's gotten into contention a lot, but he's been prone

2042
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 8: to not being able to really close the door. Love

2043
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 8: Big Aberg, another young talent that again a lot of

2044
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 8: people are really high on. He did finish runner up

2045
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 8: in twenty four I believe to Scottie. However, two shot

2046
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 8: lead last week in Houston, he wasn't able to hold

2047
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 8: on and ultimately lost out to Garry Woodland. He's had

2048
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 8: a number of opportunities where he's been able to shut

2049
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 8: the door and he hasn't. And so for that reason,

2050
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 8: I'm steering clear. Again not to say that they don't

2051
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 8: get in the contention, because I think either of those

2052
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 8: two guys do. But I'm a little bit throwing caution

2053
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 8: to the wind if you're making any kind of bet

2054
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Speaker 8: for say a top five or a win, and then

2055
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Speaker 8: just a true steer clear of Justin Thomas and Jordan. Again,

2056
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 8: I've been big fans of those guys. They're great players.

2057
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 8: They've won major championships. However, Jordan hasn't won and who

2058
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 8: knows how long. It's been quite some time, and justin

2059
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 8: just for whatever reason, seems to have some demons when

2060
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 8: it comes to Augusta, and so for that reason, I'm

2061
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 8: kind of a stay away until you prove it to

2062
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 8: me on those two players.

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01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 3: And so for that.

2064
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 8: Reason, I'm a little bit hesitant on those guys.

2065
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: You've been on the air with me for nearly six

2066
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: minutes and you just made an allusion to Scotty Scheffler

2067
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 1: for the first time a few seconds ago. He is

2068
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: the odds on favorite. He's Scotty Scheffler. So why is that.

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Speaker 8: Here's the thing, there's no doubt this is probably some

2070
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 8: of the strangest form he's been when it comes to

2071
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 8: his driver, and it would comes to his irons. This year,

2072
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 8: he played unbelievably well at the American Express, and then

2073
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 8: he just kind of has been in a little bit

2074
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 8: of a funk. However, I'm starting to put him into

2075
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 8: the category of Tiger in his prime, where it's like,

2076
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 8: you know what until you prove otherwise. For the very

2077
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 8: same reasons I was out on someone like JT Or Speeed,

2078
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 8: I'm always going to be on Scottie because he just

2079
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 8: seems to right now find a way at these major championships,

2080
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 8: and he obviously loves Augusta Nationals, so there's no doubt.

2081
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 8: He's definitely the odds on favorite, as he deserves to be.

2082
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 8: But there's some other because he's a favorite and not

2083
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 8: playing quite as well, there's some more value in picking

2084
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 8: some of these other guys over Scotty right now.

2085
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: All right, the pride of Marymont and Ohio State, Will

2086
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: Grimmer is with us. If folks are gonna watch this

2087
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: weekend and they're like, you know what, I want to play?

2088
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: Like some of these dudes, I need top end instruction.

2089
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see Will Grimmer who owns and runs

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01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: and is the teacher at LAW fifty nine. Where can

2091
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: they find you?

2092
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 8: Yeah? Follow me on Instagram Willie g w I l

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Speaker 8: y G Underscore LP fifty nine present on Twitter as well,

2094
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 8: but Instagram is definitely one of the better ways I got.

2095
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 8: That's my teaching account. I've got a YouTube channel as well,

2096
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 8: Will Grimmer hyphen LOP fifty nine and then my link

2097
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Speaker 8: to my website is www dot Colendle dot com. Forward

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Speaker 8: slash Will Grimmer Golf.

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01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: I say this, I say this not too I say

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Speaker 1: this not casion, because you're doing this because you're you're

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine. Like I've been around a lot

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Speaker 1: of coaches, and around and around a lot of teachers,

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01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: a lot of different disciplines of my life. You're probably

2104
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: the best. If you can make my swing better, and

2105
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: let's be honest, there's not a lot to work with there.

2106
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: If you can make my swing better, then you can

2107
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: make pretty much anybody swing better.

2108
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Speaker 8: We've seen some good improvements, we definitely have. So no,

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Speaker 8: it's it's been a lot of fun. I really enjoyed.

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Speaker 8: I enjoy working with people and seeing people get enjoyment

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Speaker 8: out of this great game.

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Speaker 1: So all right, one more welcome, one more time. Where

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Speaker 1: can people find you and reach out?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Instagram, Twitter, My website is Willie g Underscore, Lave

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Speaker 8: fifty nine, my website calendle dot com, forward slash, Willgrimmer Golf,

2116
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Speaker 8: and my YouTube channel. So don't be a stranger, reach

2117
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Speaker 8: out and any golf questions you may have, I'm always

2118
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Speaker 8: happy to answer.

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Speaker 1: Greatest golfer, greatest golf teacher, greatest instructor of anything I've

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Speaker 1: ever been around, our golf expert, Will Grimmer, you're the

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Speaker 1: best man we'll talk. We'll talk prior to the PGA Championship.

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Speaker 1: Will Grimmer. And we'll share that stuff when we podcast

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Speaker 1: that interview. As we get said for the Masters quarter

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Speaker 1: to six one thing on college basketball coming up quickly though.

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Speaker 1: to Sunday Catcher PJ. Higgins up from Louisville Christian and

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Speaker 1: crnasi on strand DFA to make room for PJ. Jisel

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Speaker 1: James entering the transfer portal Cincinnati apparently bringing David Owezi

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Speaker 1: for a six' ten player From Utah state Joining Jared

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Speaker 1: calhoun that you. See, Meanwhile xavier is Getting michael o'waco good,

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Speaker 1: player six' ten GUY from lsu who virgin nearly thirteen

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Speaker 1: and a half points, a game set to Come to

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Speaker 1: xavier to Play For richard patino with one year. Of

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Speaker 1: eligibility Quickly On college basketball was listening to that segment

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Speaker 1: top of. THE hour i, love basketball and So When

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Speaker 1: i'm I'M asked nba or college my ANSWER is i

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Speaker 1: love the sport, of BASKETBALL and i appreciate the differences between. The,

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Speaker 1: TWO now i think there's nothing better THAN The. Ncaa

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01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 1: tournament there's nothing better than the dash to MAKE the,

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Speaker 1: ncaa TOURNAMENT and i am emotionally more invested in my

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Speaker 1: favorite college TEAMS that i am MY favorite, Nba team

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Speaker 1: so my preference is the. College GAME but i. LOVE

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Speaker 1: both i love the sport. Of BASKETBALL the nba has got.

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Speaker 1: Major issues the season is way, too long there's a load,

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Speaker 1: management issue and there is a major issue with tanking in.

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Speaker 1: That league and so during the top of, THE hour

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Speaker 1: i was listening to the Discuss About gianna santanakupo And

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Speaker 1: The milwaukee bucks where he wants. To play the team

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Speaker 1: won't let him play because they're not trying, To win

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Speaker 1: and this topic has dominated THE entire. Nba season college

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Speaker 1: basketball has. Its issues. That's undeniable college basketball has things

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Speaker 1: that need to, be, addressed. Fixed tweaked there need to be.

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Speaker 1: More RULES and i say THIS like i love MOST of,

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Speaker 1: nil portal, player movement, player empowerment but, even ME even

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Speaker 1: i understand the need to have some sort, of regulation.

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Speaker 1: Some guardrails you have to have, those THINGS and i believe,

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Speaker 1: we WILL and i think the sport's going to look

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Speaker 1: dramatically different for the better, in three four five years

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Speaker 1: than it does. Right now say what you want about

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Speaker 1: the influx of players every spring into, The portal say

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Speaker 1: what you want about all the the, players moving and

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to establish a connection to the

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Speaker 1: players who come to a, certain school how difficult it

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Speaker 1: might be. To follow in, college basketball everybody's trying. To

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Speaker 1: win some are better equipped to be able, to win

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Speaker 1: some have. More resources by, the way that's been the

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Speaker 1: case for pretty much the entirety of college. Basketball's history

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Speaker 1: everybody's trying to win in that SPORT, the nba and

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Speaker 1: it's not the tanking is exclusive To The National basketball

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Speaker 1: association because It isn't and obviously college basketball doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a draft to tank for or, A lottery but that league,

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Speaker 1: right now more than, any other is associated with teams

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Speaker 1: blatantly trying to. Not win THERE are nfl teams who

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Speaker 1: May tank Monday. Through saturday nobody Tanks. On sunday players care,

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Speaker 1: too much coaches care. Too much IN, the nba. It's

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Speaker 1: blatant and by, the way that legue is going to

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Speaker 1: expand there's gonna be a team added in all Likelihood

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Speaker 1: of seattle and one More. To vegas, and, YEAH man

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Speaker 1: I think seattle should HAVE an nba TEAM because i

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Speaker 1: Remember the sonics and they never should have lost the team.

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Speaker 1: They had but you're gonna add two teams to a

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Speaker 1: league where a good chunk of it's actively trying to,

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Speaker 1: not win actively and unapologetically trying to. Not win, last

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Speaker 1: Night The sacramento kings were committing fouls in, a game

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Speaker 1: they were leading down, the stretch blatantly trying to. Not

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Speaker 1: win say what you want about, college BASKETBALL and i

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Speaker 1: know this is this is, a basic very, rudimentary take if.

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Speaker 1: You will everybody's trying. To win maybe you don't like

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Speaker 1: the fact that the players are, Getting paid, You're wrong

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Speaker 1: but maybe you don't like the flat the fact the

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Speaker 1: players can go to four schools in. Four years kind

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Speaker 1: of with you on that airbody's trying. To win everybody

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Speaker 1: by trying to be trying to find the best financial spot,

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Speaker 1: for themselves best financial situation. For themselves everybody is trying.

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Speaker 1: To win the biggest difference between those those two leagues.

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Speaker 1: Right Now and i've often BEEN an, nba apologist but in,

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Speaker 1: that league it is disgusting watching teams, not try and

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Speaker 1: not just in the last week of, the season there

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Speaker 1: have been teams not Trying, since christmas by, the way

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Speaker 1: selling full, price tickets asking fans to come, to games,

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Speaker 1: buy subscriptions buy, league. Pass subscriptions there is the biggest

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Speaker 1: difference right now between. The two say what you want about.

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Speaker 1: College hoops some college teams have infinitely. More resources that

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Speaker 1: was the case twenty, Years ago it's going to be

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Speaker 1: the case twenty years from now in. That sport i'm

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Speaker 1: not questioning whether. Anybody's trying IN, the nba a good

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Speaker 1: quarter of, the league maybe a third of, the league

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Speaker 1: it's fair to question whether or not the teams are

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