Speaker 1: I want to be an American. Flowing back on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW, I smell football this weekend, we jump right
Speaker 1: into it with the three and five Bengals two and
Speaker 1: a half point dogs against the visiting Chicago Bears right
Speaker 1: before they head into the by The Bengals defense is
Speaker 1: in the If you're to grade this out like a
Speaker 1: I mean they're on pace to challenge the twenty twelve
Speaker 1: Saints for the most yards given up in a single season.
Speaker 1: They went to thirty two to sixty three. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Bengals dot Com and the twenty twelve Saints a
Speaker 1: lot about seven thousand that year. That is not a
Speaker 1: category you want to be. And the question is can
Speaker 1: you stop the bleeding and turn this around? On That
Speaker 1: is the voice of the Bengals and the bear Cats.
Speaker 1: That's Dan Horde. Danny welcome. How's the toast this morning?
Speaker 2: The toast was excellent.
Speaker 3: I am a toast guy, and someday when I open
Speaker 3: my franchise, Toast of the Town, I will invite you
Speaker 3: to the grand opening my Toast restaurant. We'll make our
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: gets like the toner ink tone. It's like the razor
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Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. Can I get cheese on the toast?
Speaker 1: Or is it just toast? Butter jam jelly?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 3: You know, I think we're gonna have some avocado toast
Speaker 3: because clearly people like that. And I can charge the
Speaker 3: heck out of your good on avocado toast, your regular
Speaker 3: basic you know, buttered toast. We got to keep that
Speaker 3: cheap and make our money on our fancy coffee.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the buttered, plain white toast, that's your lost leader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so feel free to invest. Got it.
Speaker 3: Coast of the Town is the name of my franchise,
Speaker 3: Many breads, many spreads, that slogan. Clearly I've given this,
Speaker 3: Yes you have that. Everybody has one good idea fat
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Speaker 1: And in someday, Dan years from now, I'll be driving
Speaker 1: along and see Toast of the Town. I'll go, damn it,
Speaker 1: that beautiful son of a bitch did it.
Speaker 2: That is correct.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what you're going to say, And then you're
Speaker 3: going to stop produce life brilliant.
Speaker 1: Uh, Danny, let's talk about this, and the defense, of
Speaker 1: course is what Ail's. The Bengals will get to the
Speaker 1: O line. The big question, of course is Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: Just a second, but I mentioned how poorly the Bengals
Speaker 1: defense is performing. Underwhelming this season, and I think disappointing
Speaker 1: is probably being gentle.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: People kick the tires on this and go, well, whose
Speaker 1: fault is it?
Speaker 2: Real?
Speaker 1: How much of this is on Al Golden? How much
Speaker 1: is this on the on the talent issue and who
Speaker 1: they draft?
Speaker 2: Can we get back to.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Bengals defense, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that much on Al Golden quite honestly. Uh,
Speaker 3: lou Ana Roumo is not a bad defensive coordinator. They
Speaker 3: made the change in hopes that lou would be able
Speaker 3: to develop their younger players better than Al was able to,
Speaker 3: and hopefully he still can. That process is underway, but
Speaker 3: it's a talent issue now. It's also an inexperiencing youth issue.
Speaker 3: I'm still hopeful that guys like Barrett Carter and Demetrius
Speaker 3: Knight are going to be the linebacker pair for many
Speaker 3: years to come, much like Jermaine Pratt, and Logan Wilson
Speaker 3: before them. But the rookies, and they're doing rookie things
Speaker 3: and it's costing them dearly unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, to be fair and not up
Speaker 1: in all rookies, but offense is fourth in league in
Speaker 1: yards after the catch. Just the tackling has been notoriously
Speaker 1: bad for a while here. I agree to me that
Speaker 1: elevated above coaching. I mean, you should be able to
Speaker 1: tackle by the time you get the NFL, right.
Speaker 3: Yes and no, you know, tackling it seems so simple,
Speaker 3: but you are also trying to tackle the best people
Speaker 3: in the world. Yes, and if you are the slightest
Speaker 3: bit off, suddenly that ability to you know, get your
Speaker 3: body in front of the guy and bring him down
Speaker 3: becomes getting an arm on the guy and not bringing
Speaker 3: him down. So it's not as simple as you know,
Speaker 3: wrap them up and bring him down. There's there's an
Speaker 3: element of being in the right place and moving at
Speaker 3: the right speed to be able to do it. And
Speaker 3: that's what they are not doing. That's the reason why
Speaker 3: they've allowed eighty mistackled. It's because they're the tiniest bit
Speaker 3: off in the NFL. Is the difference between getting Breise
Speaker 3: Hall on the ground and watching them run for thirty.
Speaker 1: On and of course it all starts up front. Murphy
Speaker 1: and Assai and Shamar Stuart a scis fine, and now
Speaker 1: the big question, Okay, what about Trey Hendrickson, And that's alarming,
Speaker 1: and they're just not getting the pressure of the Jets
Speaker 1: ran completely through them on Sunday. I don't want to
Speaker 1: rehash that because that was probably one of the worst
Speaker 1: losses of all time, certainly if maybe the defining loss
Speaker 1: of the Zach Taylor era. That was a horrible loss
Speaker 1: to anh to seventeen and the Jets ran right through them.
Speaker 2: That's just not.
Speaker 3: Acceptable, especially because of the way the game was going.
Speaker 3: At the end of the first quarter. The Bengals were
Speaker 3: up by ten. At the end of the second quarter,
Speaker 3: they are up by eleven, at the end of the
Speaker 3: third quarter, they were.
Speaker 2: Up by fifteen. The lead kept going up.
Speaker 3: How do you lose the game under those circumstances, And
Speaker 3: they managed to do it, and it was on the defense.
Speaker 3: Eight points against the New York Jets. Should get the done,
Speaker 3: get the job done one hundred percent of the time,
Speaker 3: and because of the defensive failures in that game, it
Speaker 3: did not.
Speaker 1: Now, the thirty eight should get you a win. With
Speaker 1: probably about what eighty percent of the teams in the
Speaker 1: NFL getting that, they shout yeah, if not higher right,
Speaker 1: and being gentle there. My concern is this too because
Speaker 1: of okay, we'll get the offense. Offense is fine, but
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, look, I play offense. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: what the defense has to do, and asked about something
Speaker 1: else said, well, you're gonna have to ask act Taylor
Speaker 1: about that. So we're starting to get those comments. You
Speaker 1: could tell it starting to boil up on the offensive
Speaker 1: side and affecting these guys are like, hey, we're scoring
Speaker 1: thirty eight points here, I'm doing my job. You can't
Speaker 1: do yours. What does that do inside of locker room?
Speaker 3: Well, it's human nature, and that's in the immediate aftermath
Speaker 3: of a loss like that. You know, what do you
Speaker 3: expect the guy to say the defense was awesome? You know,
Speaker 3: there's really not much a guy can say other than
Speaker 3: say nothing. And that's kind of what Jamar tried to do.
Speaker 3: So in a situation like that, see what they say
Speaker 3: a few days later. Yeah, than the heat of the moment.
Speaker 3: It's tough and I think by and large, these guys
Speaker 3: have stayed together about as much as you can. And
Speaker 3: the same thing happened last year. So I don't see
Speaker 3: a major fracture right now in the locker room between
Speaker 3: offense and defense. But in the immediate heat of battle
Speaker 3: after a game like that, what are you share?
Speaker 1: The concern is he start piling up and then what
Speaker 1: happens to that culture? And then then you've got a
Speaker 1: much bigger problem? Is the point? We don't want to
Speaker 1: see that, Dan Horde, let's talk about probably the biggest
Speaker 1: issue in this game. Flacco or no Flacco. He's day
Speaker 1: to day with the spring AC joint as right children.
Speaker 1: I know I had my shoulder replaced the AC and
Speaker 1: it's a horrible biken image trying to throw a football.
Speaker 1: Still not sure what happens on Sunday. The big question
Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco is can you throw with his left hand.
Speaker 2: Like Gus Baratt tried to do back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would not recommend that.
Speaker 3: Okay, it seems to work about once a year for
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, but for anybody else, I would stick with
Speaker 3: your dominant US.
Speaker 1: That's a shottle camp.
Speaker 3: But extras quarterbacks have not historically made it to the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen with Joe Placco.
Speaker 3: He threw the ball around a little bit yesterday. He
Speaker 3: was considered limited on the official practice report. Jake Browning
Speaker 3: is obviously taking the bulk of the snaps at practice.
Speaker 2: Sweet.
Speaker 3: There's one thing we've learned about Joe Placo. He doesn't
Speaker 3: need a lot of practice to be successful. So I
Speaker 3: guess that's cause for optimism. If he can't go, the
Speaker 3: only hope is from watching him the last few weeks.
Speaker 3: Jake Browning has learned some stuff that will help him
Speaker 3: if he gets back in there. You know, we've seen
Speaker 3: moments obviously in the past where he's played well, so
Speaker 3: I would like to think that he's learned some valuable
Speaker 3: lessons from seeing a forty year old dude with no
Speaker 3: practice come in and play extremely well.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, if you're watching one of the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks in the league and Joe Burrow, and you
Speaker 1: can't learn from him, I guess my point, Dan would be, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're learning from Burrow, you're learning from Joe Flacco. That's
Speaker 1: all good, seems to the casual fan of Kells observer.
Speaker 1: It's not his physical ability. He's been in the league
Speaker 1: long enough. It's what's going on between his ears and
Speaker 1: his inability to process as quickly as Joe Flacco and
Speaker 1: certainly Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly true.
Speaker 3: The three games that he played this year, I mean,
Speaker 3: he was dreadful and he knows it, and we know
Speaker 3: and everybody to watch him knows it. But we also
Speaker 3: saw him play seven games in twenty twenty three where
Speaker 3: he played pretty well. Maybe there's a reset where he says,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not Joe Burrow. I can't do
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow like things. I can't run around and make
Speaker 3: miraculous plays. I need to be more like Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: Gets the ball out in two and a half seconds,
Speaker 3: don't take sacks, throw it away if I have to,
Speaker 3: and you know, with these wide receivers, that's enough. So
Speaker 3: if he winds up playing I would like to see
Speaker 3: more of that version of Jake Brown than the one
Speaker 3: we saw earlier this year.
Speaker 1: We'll know at eleven thirty on Sunday. I guess it's
Speaker 1: going to be a game time.
Speaker 3: Decision, Yes, something like that. Yeah, I don't think he'll
Speaker 3: be anything other than questionable. When the final injury report
Speaker 3: comes out, you know we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you hope so, because I mean, Browning has
Speaker 1: three starts this yere. I think they average what less
Speaker 1: than seventy yards per game, easily dead last as far
Speaker 1: as the league average goes to. So you do want
Speaker 1: to see Flacco in there. If he can go, he
Speaker 1: can go. How much of that is Joe's decision? How
Speaker 1: much is the training staff who ultimately, I know coach
Speaker 1: Taylor decides that. But is it kind of up to
Speaker 1: the player to self report in situations like that or
Speaker 1: they just do exhaustive testing to make sure. Because Flacco said, listen,
Speaker 1: I want to go. I want to play. At the
Speaker 1: same time, you don't want to you know, prampt your
Speaker 1: career any more. A granted on gon years he has
Speaker 1: left at forty, but you don't want to reinjure and
Speaker 1: make it worse.
Speaker 3: I think this is largely a Flacco thing because I
Speaker 3: think it's a pain management thing. I don't think that
Speaker 3: it's the type of injury that you know his arm's
Speaker 3: going to fall off. You know, it's a sprain. It's
Speaker 3: not like it's dangling by you know, a torn ligament
Speaker 3: or something. So I think it's mostly pain management. And
Speaker 3: you've got to trust Joe Flacco to give you honest feedback.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I think at this stage of
Speaker 3: his career, he'll do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rest elevate, put some ice on it to be
Speaker 1: able to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to be able to play effectively, right,
Speaker 3: He's got to be able to communicate to the medical staff.
Speaker 2: You know what, I can't throw a football recently. It
Speaker 2: hurts too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll be to see that right away too.
Speaker 1: So and it's not just Joe Flack. Obviously, Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he's going to go. Shaka Hayward
Speaker 1: is expected to miss what a month. He has a
Speaker 1: broken leg.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's broken, but it is a
Speaker 3: fibular injury, and he is on injured reserves, so he's
Speaker 3: out for at least four game right.
Speaker 1: And on the other side of the balls, and uh,
Speaker 1: the bear is actually I mean you look at all
Speaker 1: their top receivers and people with the most receiving I
Speaker 1: there are like five guys that are that are banged
Speaker 1: up that may not play, so that that there's definitely
Speaker 1: an opportunity there for this defense because their top five
Speaker 1: guys misspracticed this week. Also, Rashawn Johnson there running back,
Speaker 1: didn't practice this week, Dominique Robinson d L defensive lineman
Speaker 1: didn't practice. Cole Comet's banged up injury. So it's not
Speaker 1: like the Bengals with Trey Henderson Joe Flacco are the
Speaker 1: only team that isn't decimated by injuries right now, because look,
Speaker 1: Chicago could actually be worse outside of the starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: Seems like their injury porto is trending in a positive
Speaker 3: direction during the course of the week. So at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the week, some of those guys that you
Speaker 3: mentioned out than they were limited, and so I suspect
Speaker 3: that most of their most important players will be able
Speaker 3: to answer the bell. Doesn't mean will be one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: but I would expect them to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what else can you said about the Bengals offense?
Speaker 1: I mean they're good enough to win. You know, no,
Speaker 1: no offense, p Ryan. The running game is really good.
Speaker 1: Everything's clicking. The offensive line is is past protecting well,
Speaker 1: they're blocking run. Chase s Brown's gonna rind to imagine
Speaker 1: they're going to run the ball at at the Bears
Speaker 1: heavily on Sunday as well.
Speaker 3: Pretty solid top to ball, I mean, especially if Jake,
Speaker 3: especially if Jake Browning winds up starting the game. I
Speaker 3: think that's the thing that gives me the most hope.
Speaker 3: So two weeks ago, in the win over Pittsburgh, the
Speaker 3: Bengals ran for more than one hundred and forty yards.
Speaker 3: Last week in the loss, I hate saying it. To
Speaker 3: the Jets, they ran for more than one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 3: So they finally got the running game cooking. Let's give
Speaker 3: the offensive line some love because they rarely get it
Speaker 3: in recent years, and they've averaged seven yards per attempt
Speaker 3: on the ground, So I'm optimistic that maybe they've turned
Speaker 3: the corner where the running game is concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Bears are not particularly good with run defense.
Speaker 1: They've struggled. They allowed what over five yards of carry
Speaker 1: too well it's stare Henry, I guess, and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: But they're everything like allowing five point three per carry
Speaker 1: and average that's among the top of the league, or
Speaker 1: I guess worse than the league is gal.
Speaker 3: I think they're twenty fifth or twenty sixth. That's stopping
Speaker 3: the run. They're giving up more than one hundred and
Speaker 3: forty rushing yards per game. So yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 3: the when you circle strengths and weaknesses for the two teams.
Speaker 3: You've got a team that's at least run it well
Speaker 3: for two weeks in a row against the defense that
Speaker 3: hasn't been great against stopping the run with a question
Speaker 3: of question markets your quarterback position.
Speaker 2: So that all adds up to let's see if.
Speaker 3: The Bengals can run the ball, control the clock a
Speaker 3: little bit, prevent Ben Johnson from coming up with incredibly
Speaker 3: creative offensive plays because we know that's why he was
Speaker 3: the hottest coaching candidate out there before the Bears hired him,
Speaker 3: and maybe that's the formula for victory.
Speaker 2: He keep the defense off the field, you hope.
Speaker 1: So you know, between Brown and p Ryan, could do
Speaker 1: you know, put up three hundred yards and four or
Speaker 1: five touchdowns and still lose with the defense. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: Other side, Caleb Williams no tds in the last two games.
Speaker 1: So that's a good trend for the Bengals. They've got
Speaker 1: some tools, though I mean a dun say they're wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Clearly their best was watching some a little bit of
Speaker 1: the Bears a couple of weeks ago to DJ Morrise
Speaker 1: pretty solid. They got some guys that can hurt you.
Speaker 3: Those are the two Roma Doonza is a study, was
Speaker 3: the ninth pick in the draft last year. DJ Moore
Speaker 3: has been great for a long time. He's got a
Speaker 3: bunch of one thousand yard seasons in his NFL career.
Speaker 3: So Caleb Williams joining to those two guys is the
Speaker 3: biggest thing you got to worry about. Deander Smith, I
Speaker 3: think is a decent now great running back, but decent
Speaker 3: and a dunk. Cole Coombet's a good tight end, So
Speaker 3: you know, it's not one of the best offenses in
Speaker 3: the league. But they've got guys. Every NFL team does,
Speaker 3: and those two wide receivers in particular, I think aren't good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really gonna miss Trey here. And this is
Speaker 1: a chance for Shamar Stewart to put something up and
Speaker 1: show with something because Williams have been sacked like sick.
Speaker 1: He's been sacked a lot. I forget what the number is,
Speaker 1: but I think twelve sacks and seven games this season.
Speaker 1: So it's not like that line's doing a great job
Speaker 1: of protecting him. It takes a lot of time to
Speaker 1: get rid of the ball as well. I think third
Speaker 1: longest in the NFL, somebing well well over three seconds,
Speaker 1: I think. So there's an opportunity here. I'd love to
Speaker 1: see Shamar step up and do something this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: Shamar looked really good in Week one against Cleveland, got
Speaker 3: hurt in week two and hasn't really looked good Finn
Speaker 3: So I don't know if the ankle is one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much that is hampering him. I'm
Speaker 3: still bullish on him long term, but I'd like to
Speaker 3: see it now because if Trey is out, and it
Speaker 3: certainly looks like he will be, somebody's got to step
Speaker 3: up and put some pressure on the quarterback, and Shamar
Speaker 3: Stewart's the guy that has the most talent at least
Speaker 3: to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: Now, you're over three seconds before you release the ball,
Speaker 1: you're just begging to get drilled. Hopefully the long can
Speaker 1: can get that done. Let's pivot here to this ESPN
Speaker 1: College Game Day is in town, Danny. You'll be in
Speaker 1: Utah and it's a ten to fifteen start. That could
Speaker 1: be the longest pregame show in the history of ESPN.
Speaker 3: In town, as in in Salt Lake City, not in
Speaker 3: town as in in Cincinnati. So it's the seventeenth ranked
Speaker 3: Bearcats YEP against the twenty fourth ranked Utes right on
Speaker 3: Saturday night, ten fifteen, Cincinnati time, eight fifteen in Salt
Speaker 3: Lake City. Huge game for the Bearcats. They are an
Speaker 3: underdog for the first time in a while. But if
Speaker 3: they can pull off a mild upset, suddenly making the
Speaker 3: twelfth team college football.
Speaker 2: Playoff is really on the table.
Speaker 3: And you know, people have been talking about Cincinnati having
Speaker 3: a chance to get to the Big twelve championship game
Speaker 3: in Dallas at the end of the year, and that
Speaker 3: would be incredible, But I really don't think there's been
Speaker 3: much buzz about Cincinnati potentially making the twelve team college
Speaker 3: football playoffs. That's on the table if that's really on
Speaker 3: the table, if they win this week.
Speaker 1: But I like him talking about that. It's just, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to be stealthy, just kind of sneak in.
Speaker 3: Well, they have been stealthy to this point, stealthy, but
Speaker 3: they've climbed a number seventeen in the country.
Speaker 2: They've been on a roll. They're playing great and Manna.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who who's going to be the quarterback though.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Is Dan Pier, Devin dan Pier or
Speaker 1: the true freshman in Fickland? What's going on there?
Speaker 3: Devin Damn Pier. Last week's game against Colorado, true freshman
Speaker 3: Bird Stickland started that game and Utah led forty three
Speaker 3: nothing at halftime, so the true freshman played pretty well
Speaker 3: for the first college start. Devin Damn Pier will play
Speaker 3: if healthy. He's really good as well.
Speaker 2: He's the only.
Speaker 3: Quarterback in the country who's had games with three hundred
Speaker 3: or more passing yards and two hundred or more rushing yards,
Speaker 3: so he can do both. He's a transfer from New Mexico,
Speaker 3: where he was great last year. Came with his offensive
Speaker 3: coordinator to Utah, so I think Dan Pierre will start,
Speaker 3: but Utah is fine with either of those guys at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Evan Pryor's out though looking out anyway, not definitive.
Speaker 3: Correct Now, Cincinnati has the zoom and boom backfield. Evan
Speaker 3: Pryor is the really fast guy. Howie Walker is the
Speaker 3: powerful guy. If Evan can't play and it doesn't look good,
Speaker 3: Howie Walker will wind up getting more carries, probably than usual.
Speaker 3: But Manny Covey would be the guy that would you
Speaker 3: step in for Evin Pryor, and he's got similar traits,
Speaker 3: maybe not quite as fast, but he's really looked good
Speaker 3: when he's played. So I think they're fine even if
Speaker 3: Evan Pryor.
Speaker 1: I watch all their games. It's a fun of course,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about every week. Barcaster are just fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I now Utah one of the best in league at
Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. So there's a thattle right there.
Speaker 1: Can can Soors be get rid of the ball before
Speaker 1: Utah can get after him? And you know the classic
Speaker 1: ballot doesn't come down all of that, of course, but uh,
Speaker 1: if you talk can get to sores By more often,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit more of a challenge
Speaker 1: for the Bearcats, who are the underdog in this game.
Speaker 1: He's Dan Horde. He goes to Utah, he has some toast,
Speaker 1: and then he flies back to Cincinnati for Sunday's game.
Speaker 1: He gets it all done. Dan, all the best, buddy,
Speaker 1: thanks for jumping on this morning.
Speaker 7: In college basketball on Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Geez, we got there were going on too. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Are you calling AFC a playoff game on Friday and
Speaker 1: Sunday night too. I mean, then else he can do.
Speaker 3: Tommy G's got that. Okay, Tommy got that and it's solid.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 1: I have subscribed Apple TV. I switched it over. That's
Speaker 1: a cool part about Apple. I wish other uh uh
Speaker 1: providers would do that so you can choose the local broadcast.
Speaker 1: I think that's phenomenon.
Speaker 3: I'm praying for that day. Yes, when there's an option
Speaker 3: on your TV to sync up the sound correct with
Speaker 3: the TV picture correct. Probably coming to the NBA. I'm
Speaker 3: sorry to the NFL, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 1: Well, why do you bump that over up over your
Speaker 1: toast project? That sounds like it's more.
Speaker 3: I only have one brilliant idea in Meloney, and my
Speaker 3: one brilliant idea is my franchise.
Speaker 1: Not electric, not electronics. He's he's bread, he's bred. Danny
Speaker 1: all the best safe travels Whis'll talk to you next week,
Speaker 1: good buddy. All right, So some of the best Bengals
Speaker 1: coverage in the Bearcats. We got you both here seven
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Speaker 1: All right, got lots of sports happening this weekend. You got,
Speaker 1: of course, the Bengals in action, the Bearcats. We have
Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati big playoff match tests, I guess as we
Speaker 1: would call that in Columbus, and they can advance in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I've got lots of you see basketball starting
Speaker 1: on Monday, and of course there's plenty of time in
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Speaker 6: I'm doing well, thank you.
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Speaker 6: Uh? Reese is Reese's Peanut butter cup. You know, I'm
Speaker 6: a simple man. Give me a little bit of peanut
Speaker 6: butter and a little bit of chocolate. How about you?
Speaker 1: Definitely Snickers, Reese's that kind of thing. Yeah, I'm down
Speaker 1: with that. I'm down with that. Yeah, let's jump into
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Speaker 1: Channel nine here locally WCPO is off. I have YouTube TV,
Speaker 1: so all that stuff is programming is dropped. I know,
Speaker 1: not really that this is your field of expertise. It's
Speaker 1: like every week we have a new whatever the platform is,
Speaker 1: there's always a threat of somebody getting dropped. I think
Speaker 1: it's frustrating for a lot of consumers.
Speaker 8: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I mean it's like you you know, you're paying a
Speaker 6: premium and and you know, if you want to know
Speaker 6: what the weather is going to be from your local
Speaker 6: ABC meteorologist and suddenly that's gone. Yeah, it's it's it seems,
Speaker 6: you know, annoying at the very least for you know,
Speaker 6: the consumer. But I think that you know this this blackout,
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see how quickly it gets resolved.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Well, and it happens all the time. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna drop this network of that network, and
Speaker 1: we're not quite sure why somebody wants more money. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it works. You probably don't know what works.
Speaker 1: But you turn it on and like I want to
Speaker 1: watch some college foot Oh I can't because well now
Speaker 1: they dropped a YouTube TV, you dropped ESPN. Hopefully get
Speaker 1: this thing sorted out. Let's talk about I saw the
Speaker 1: trailer for this Emma Stone and Bogonia does not look
Speaker 1: like Emma Stone and it's just just her makeup alone
Speaker 1: is fascinating. It's crazy.
Speaker 6: So this is she has re teemed with the director
Speaker 6: of Poor Things, if you saw that movie that won
Speaker 6: her her last oscar and this one is maybe slightly
Speaker 6: less busy are but it's still pretty crazy. So the
Speaker 6: the plot of this movie is that these two guys
Speaker 6: who you know by by all stretches of the imagination,
Speaker 6: don't really have much going for them, and they decide
Speaker 6: that they think that the CEO of a local biomedical
Speaker 6: company is an alien, and so they kidnap her and
Speaker 6: they are keeping her in the basement and they're trying
Speaker 6: to convince her to admit that she is an alien
Speaker 6: and so and that's like all in the first five
Speaker 6: minutes basically is the kidnap scene.
Speaker 2: And so it is you know, gripping.
Speaker 6: You know, from the start it both performances from Emma
Speaker 6: Stone and Jesse Plemons plays like the main kind of
Speaker 6: kidnapper guy.
Speaker 7: Uh, they're amazing in it, and.
Speaker 2: I it's crazy.
Speaker 6: The movie is like it's really really crazy, and I,
Speaker 6: you know, I thought in theaters yesterday, and yeah, I've
Speaker 6: been thinking a lot about it, so I would imagine, yeah,
Speaker 6: she'll probably get a non nation and maybe Jesse Plummings
Speaker 6: as well, although I will say, like, you know, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's intense.
Speaker 6: It's intense and it's weird, so maybe not for everybody.
Speaker 6: Like I don't know that I would take my parents
Speaker 6: to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what kind of movie you take
Speaker 1: your parisure. That's a really narrow window, that's a that's
Speaker 1: like landed on an aircraft carrier. Right, It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure.
Speaker 6: You're exactly right. Yeah, it had to be a very specific,
Speaker 6: you know, palatable type of film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be I want to bring. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, so Emma Stone be going, Yeah, it looks
Speaker 1: and the trailer looked amazing. I'll try to figure it
Speaker 1: out just watching and going. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: like a horror film or I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of it.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's parts of it.
Speaker 6: I would almost call it like a dark comedy, but
Speaker 6: it is like really intense and then you know, especially
Speaker 6: the last third of the movie is also really violent,
Speaker 6: so like, you know, there's a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: Going on in this movie, gotcha?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: So that is Emma Stone in Bogonia. What else you go?
Speaker 2: What are you have? Streaming?
Speaker 5: Streaming?
Speaker 6: There's a really, really like beautiful film. It's called Sorry Baby,
Speaker 6: and it did really well at a lot of the
Speaker 6: film festivals this year, and it had a really quiet
Speaker 6: release in theaters at the end of the summer, and
Speaker 6: now it's streaming on HBO Max. And this is about
Speaker 6: a woman who pretty much from the jump, you realize
Speaker 6: that something pretty terrible has happened to her fairly recently,
Speaker 6: and you don't know exactly what it is, and you
Speaker 6: spend a lot of the movie sort of skirting around
Speaker 6: it and people talking about it without talking about it.
Speaker 6: But it's really about like how we continue with our
Speaker 6: life and pick up the pieces after something bad has happened.
Speaker 6: And she has like this amazing friend who comes and
Speaker 6: visits her from New York and you know, it's it's
Speaker 6: really lovely and it's all written, directed by and starring
Speaker 6: this woman, Eva Victor. So I think a lot of
Speaker 6: people are sort of saying that this is her big,
Speaker 6: you know, movie that will really put her into the spotlight.
Speaker 6: And and I think Eva Victor is a name that
Speaker 6: we might hear a lot of going forward, but that's sorry, baby,
Speaker 6: And it's streaming.
Speaker 2: On HBO Max.
Speaker 1: All right, will gans what else you got?
Speaker 6: And last but not like because the first two are
Speaker 6: a little heavy.
Speaker 7: I mean, I said violence and aliens with the first one.
Speaker 6: Second one is a little bit sad, even though parts
Speaker 6: of it are very funny.
Speaker 2: As well.
Speaker 6: There's a podcast, Amy Poehler's podcast. It's called Good Hang,
Speaker 6: and in addition to being able to listen to it,
Speaker 6: you can also watch the full episode and it honestly
Speaker 6: feels like a talk show almost. You can watch it
Speaker 6: on Spotify or on YouTube or whatever. And the idea
Speaker 6: is that she'll have a guest, say Kristin Wagon, but
Speaker 6: before Kristin Wig comes on, she'll talk to somebody who's
Speaker 6: worked with Kristin and they speak good about her behind
Speaker 6: her back, and then the guests will come on and
Speaker 6: you know, they have the whole conversation. And one of
Speaker 6: the main, you know, tenth poles of the show is like,
Speaker 6: what are you listening to or watching or doing to
Speaker 6: make you laugh, to make.
Speaker 2: You happy, to keep spirits high.
Speaker 6: So that's basically the vibe of the whole podcast, and
Speaker 6: it's doing really well, Like some episodes four million listeners
Speaker 6: on Spotify alone, which like you know that that's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: Joe Rogan level podcast numbers, you know, so, and it's
Speaker 6: really you know, she she just got it going a
Speaker 6: couple of months ago, and and you know, there's a
Speaker 6: guest for every type of fan of especially comedy and
Speaker 6: and movies and stuff. But she's had Mariska Hargete on
Speaker 6: and all kinds of different people. But it's I'm really
Speaker 6: enjoying the podcast.
Speaker 1: How long are the episodes?
Speaker 2: About an hour?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's like the perfect time too, and she's incredibly entertaining.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know we're familiar with her work from
Speaker 1: SNL and and more, Tina Fey or you know, talk
Speaker 1: about great female comedy teams right there when they do
Speaker 1: get together. Not always, but uh yeah, that's that's really
Speaker 1: did the check out?
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, I I highly recommend it. And Tina
Speaker 6: Fey is one of I think was the first guest,
Speaker 6: which maybe you know it.
Speaker 1: Would have to be yeah by law, I think sure.
Speaker 1: So you got Amy Polos podcast, you want to check
Speaker 1: that out, but also Emma Stone and Bigonia and sorry
Speaker 1: baby is streaming on HBO. Will Gans in New York.
Speaker 1: All the best, buddy, Thanks again, thanks for jumping on.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Happy Halloween.
Speaker 1: Ye sure, Happy Halloween. Go get you some peanut filled candy.
Speaker 1: That's what we need, peanut filled candy. News on the way,
Speaker 1: and just a few here, it's a Scottslan show back
Speaker 1: and forth, seven hundred w It's been three long months
Speaker 1: since the July twenty sixth Summer Slam happened at Fourth
Speaker 1: and Elm downtown that brought Cincinnati the eyes of people,
Speaker 1: countless people across the globe when viral video broke of
Speaker 1: that mob fight down town, and of course a lot
Speaker 1: is mid made down between. The big question would be, okay,
Speaker 1: it's been three months. We've not heard a damn thing
Speaker 1: about this. Why is this being buried? Why isn't this
Speaker 1: still front page news? In a sense is that we're
Speaker 1: still not hearing anything coming out of this case, prosecution,
Speaker 1: defense or otherwise. It's at estyle made. Of course, as
Speaker 1: much as the city could have kept under wraps on
Speaker 1: that would be sealed documents, including prosecuting Alex Travinsky, the
Speaker 1: victim in this case, and not only charging him, but
Speaker 1: sealing the records. There's a lot of prosecutors, a lot
Speaker 1: of people lost that I've never seen that before. And
Speaker 1: it goes to show you that they want to keep
Speaker 1: this on reps. And it ties into with Terry Thiji. Right,
Speaker 1: we're going to fire her and now we're going to
Speaker 1: hire a law firm to investigate, but it's going to
Speaker 1: take a few months. Basically, we want this to all
Speaker 1: to break after the election. Once we're we elected, then
Speaker 1: we'll address the issue. So there's a Facebook page, a
Speaker 1: local facebook is Signaled ninety nine, and they follow a
Speaker 1: lot of the inner workings and a lot of the
Speaker 1: dirt that comes out of CPD and they just release
Speaker 1: video and again, you can try to restrict information coming
Speaker 1: out all the time. We know about leaks out of
Speaker 1: the White House, right, Trump trying to stop leaks, Biden
Speaker 1: would try to stop leaks. The information is going to
Speaker 1: get out there. You have whistleblowers and people who want
Speaker 1: to expose the truth of what really happens. Signal ninety
Speaker 1: nine is doing that. So they just released surveillance video
Speaker 1: that they kept under lock and key that he did
Speaker 1: because they didn't want you to see this and somebody
Speaker 1: leaked at the signal ninety nine. They put it on Facebook,
Speaker 1: and that's probably causing heads to explode down at City
Speaker 1: Hall right now, because it's not good. It's not good
Speaker 1: for the narrative that this was a racially motivated attack
Speaker 1: of a white guy on a whole bunch of black folk.
Speaker 1: It's not helping that narrative that they're so desperately trying
Speaker 1: to push and sell you. So let's back up a
Speaker 1: second and look at the video and if you go
Speaker 1: back to court, and this was about a month after
Speaker 1: the twenty seis riot, so it was back in August.
Speaker 1: Kip Guyn, an assistant prosecutor for Hamlin County, in the
Speaker 1: first hearing, said, look, we have evidence. We have video
Speaker 1: that shows that Alex Stravinsky is the victim in this case.
Speaker 1: That a minute forty seven seconds is as when we
Speaker 1: see the video of him punching the black guy in
Speaker 1: the red shirt or slapping his face anyway, kicking a
Speaker 1: car and slapping, he's like, oh my god, white guys
Speaker 1: start to fight. Of course, we had the preachers and
Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson, everybody else who would hear saying, my god,
Speaker 1: why are you just charging the black people, not the
Speaker 1: white guy. And of course we a politically motivated charge
Speaker 1: against Tchervinsky that came essentially from the top on down
Speaker 1: from either the mayor or the city manager, and forcing
Speaker 1: Captain Adam Haini to write that citation when his officers wouldn't.
Speaker 1: And so in this new video and then it's pretty
Speaker 1: far away, but you can probably clearly see what's going
Speaker 1: on here. Is early on in this thing, a man
Speaker 1: comes up behind. This is well before a minute forty seven.
Speaker 1: So according to Travinsky and his lawyer, he said, listen,
Speaker 1: the minute we left the club from the VIP area
Speaker 1: and even inside there were were getting epithets hurled at us.
Speaker 1: So we thought, you know, we're gonna ignore it. We're
Speaker 1: going to walk. Was after the music festival, so we're
Speaker 1: going to just walk. We're gonna go out here. So
Speaker 1: now at this point, according to him, people are lobbying
Speaker 1: racial epithets at him in the group he is with
Speaker 1: the white folks also pushing and shoving, some pushing. But
Speaker 1: we did see early in this video, this new video,
Speaker 1: that he was struck in the head from behind, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear and he is one of these suspects
Speaker 1: slash victims in the case. And at this point, after
Speaker 1: getting struck in the back of the head, he then
Speaker 1: turns around. They kind of move into the street to
Speaker 1: confront the people who were punching him from behind. You
Speaker 1: see him kick a car, that white car that comes
Speaker 1: to question, and then he's struck multiple times by the
Speaker 1: man in the red shirt. And at this point that's
Speaker 1: when he slaps him in the face. Boy, that truly
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Travinsky was the one starting a fight
Speaker 1: with a bunch of a bunch of folks. So he
Speaker 1: was outnumbered. You know, there are hundreds of I mean
Speaker 1: dozens probably in that particular I shouldn say hundreds, but
Speaker 1: certainly hundreds and hundreds of people downtown got along just
Speaker 1: fine except for this particular crowd. And he's struck from
Speaker 1: behind and essentially said that's it. I'm drawn a line
Speaker 1: in the sand. I'm not going to become a victim
Speaker 1: of a race crime. And of course now he's prosecuted
Speaker 1: because of the man's and it blows up the entire
Speaker 1: narrative that they've had going to this point. So again,
Speaker 1: you know, you can try and cover this stuff up,
Speaker 1: and I don't call it no, it's sealed because there's
Speaker 1: an investigation. Really, because in other cases it doesn't take
Speaker 1: three months in and no one's talking about this anymore.
Speaker 1: You've completely killed the story. But thank god that we
Speaker 1: have people out there, We have whistleblowers wanting to do
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff and props to Signal ninety nine
Speaker 1: for at least in the video that everyone want to see.
Speaker 1: It just makes that case look worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 1: Now it did drop on a Friday. We'll pick this
Speaker 1: back up again Monday because I think it's still part
Speaker 1: of the new cycle. It's gonna be really interesting. But
Speaker 1: that's the very latest on this, so we'll pick it
Speaker 1: back up again on Monday. How does that sound, because
Speaker 1: you know, Friday is our special time to just kind
Speaker 1: of chill and we'll worry about the Bearcats, the Bengals
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other fun stuff which we'll
Speaker 1: get to ahead at ten thirty five with Austin Elmore.
Speaker 1: It's a Scottsland show on the Home of the Best
Speaker 1: Bengals coverage seven hundred WW.
Speaker 2: Since you want to be a.
Speaker 1: Scott A Flow show back on seven hundred WW. As
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sick in the head for the trades,
Speaker 1: passionate about it, love it. I want to see more
Speaker 1: young people and heck, even older young people get into
Speaker 1: the trades because it can really change your life, especially
Speaker 1: if you're not, you know, someone who wants to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time in school or the investment. You
Speaker 1: don't have the money, and it's an honorable profession going
Speaker 1: into something you're doing. You're helping people fix things like
Speaker 1: you know, plumbing, electrical in this case HVAC and from
Speaker 1: the Southern Ohio Technical Institute on that is a Mike Tripple,
Speaker 1: He's a president. Mike, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7: How are you, Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1: How you doing I'm doing fine, I'm doing fine. Thanks
Speaker 1: for jumping on this morning. You know, we often hear
Speaker 1: about the lack of opportunity for young people, especially in
Speaker 1: the city, especially in urban areas. There's there's no good
Speaker 1: jobs out there, and I feel like hell to get
Speaker 1: the word out. Often the deaf ears that, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can change your life, to project your life as
Speaker 1: you just simply go into the trades. And maybe academically speaking,
Speaker 1: you're not inclined to sit in a classroom for eight
Speaker 1: hours a day and times what sixteen years, It feels
Speaker 1: like I want to go out and do stuff, see stuff,
Speaker 1: build stuff, make money, but I need to change the scenery.
Speaker 1: I'm not a bookworm, so to speak. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. And we have made that for so long
Speaker 1: an indictment against the child and the family that I
Speaker 1: think we've runed countless lives over the past couple generations
Speaker 1: because we looked at trade work as dirty work. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. Because especially this time of year,
Speaker 1: we all have furnaces and they're starting to kick on,
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't kick gone, you call probably one
Speaker 1: of your graduates.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Scott.
Speaker 2: You know, you hit the nail right on the head.
Speaker 7: You know, all these young people that are graduating out
Speaker 7: of high school and they've been influenced and they've been
Speaker 7: told so many times, you have to go to college.
Speaker 7: You have to go to college, you have to go
Speaker 7: to college. Well, listen, you know that's not everybody's cup
Speaker 7: of tea.
Speaker 2: As you pointed out.
Speaker 7: You know, some people, you know, are just born to
Speaker 7: can time. And some guys are really good with their
Speaker 7: hands and they work well with their hands. Yeah, and listen,
Speaker 7: let's face it anymore. What's a four year business degree
Speaker 7: get you, Scott? It gets you a four year degree.
Speaker 7: It gets you a thirty thousand dollars student debt that
Speaker 7: you have to pay for over who.
Speaker 2: Knows how long.
Speaker 7: And guess what, you know at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: what do you get a thirty thousand dollars a year
Speaker 7: at a coffee shop?
Speaker 1: Or maybe you do get maybe you do get into
Speaker 1: a company, Mike, And guess what. AI comes along and
Speaker 1: knocks you out of a job. AI is not going
Speaker 1: to replace an HVAC tech.
Speaker 7: Absolutely not. It will not replace an HVAC tech. And
Speaker 7: by the way, these young students that are graduating and
Speaker 7: going into the field, for the most part, I just
Speaker 7: want to tell everybody, these guys are going into the
Speaker 7: trade at about a forty thousand dollars a year's start, Okay,
Speaker 7: plus they're overtime and it's just great. It's in five
Speaker 7: years they could be six figures.
Speaker 1: And yeah, depending on how do you want to work.
Speaker 1: But in the more experience you have, you move up
Speaker 1: the chain. Maybe you oversee your own crew, maybe your management,
Speaker 1: maybe you own your own company. I know plenty of
Speaker 1: people started out just as attack in many areas that
Speaker 1: have gone on to start their own companies or take
Speaker 1: a company over and never saw that on the horizon
Speaker 1: when they're in school. I just thought, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live hand in the mouth the rest of
Speaker 1: my life. But you know, as you know, it's showing up, right,
Speaker 1: So take me through that. Your program at Southern Ohio
Speaker 1: technicol listens to the HVAC program. How long does it
Speaker 1: take to complete that? That entire I'll just call it
Speaker 1: what it is, a degree program, the training.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 7: It's it's actually you get five certifications and you do
Speaker 7: get a degree with that as well. But it is
Speaker 7: an accelerated course which usually takes about eleven months, and
Speaker 7: other schools with ours is accelerated to two hundred hours.
Speaker 7: It's a pretty uh intense course. But once you get out,
Speaker 7: you come out on the other side of the of
Speaker 7: the rainbow.
Speaker 2: And go to speak.
Speaker 7: The course will give you five certifications that you need.
Speaker 7: You're six to oh eight, which is a government certification
Speaker 7: that you need to work in the industry. Without that
Speaker 7: you cannot work, okay, And then for other HVAC Excellence
Speaker 7: degree certifications you'll get and then also the actual degree
Speaker 7: from the school, from the career college, our career college itself,
Speaker 7: so you'll have all the credentially, and you need to
Speaker 7: start into the business. And our school is very big
Speaker 7: in the job placement. I want to add that in
Speaker 7: good word about an eighty five percent job placement with
Speaker 7: all our graduating students.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Say that number again.
Speaker 7: Word about eighty five percent job placement. That's awesome with
Speaker 7: all of our graduating suits.
Speaker 1: Think about that eighty five percent. Now you get a
Speaker 1: degree now if it's in the field that's in high demand. Sure,
Speaker 1: but so many college graduates now are leaving and going, wow,
Speaker 1: there's no jobs out there. You are placing nearly nine
Speaker 1: to ten in a position. That's that's incredible. Well, by
Speaker 1: the way, eleven months of study and you leave usually
Speaker 1: with no debt and you're making forty thousand dollars plus
Speaker 1: a minimum forty thousand dollars your first year out. What's
Speaker 1: not the love about that?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, well not our Now let me correct you there.
Speaker 7: Our school is not eleven months. Ours is ten weeks,
Speaker 7: ten hours, okay, ten weeks. It's accelerated. Most of these
Speaker 7: courses are six hundred hour eleven months?
Speaker 2: Ours is I got you?
Speaker 1: I miss heard, I miss heard. I went well, eleven
Speaker 1: eleven months, that's pretty You're going to know a lot
Speaker 1: about HVAC and eleven months so okay, but ten weeks
Speaker 1: and forty grand, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But you got to show up, you got to do
Speaker 1: the work. You've got to be interested and and be
Speaker 1: aggressive that this is money that can change your life.
Speaker 1: Uh what about financing? You know, in a lot of
Speaker 1: these cases, an employer, a prospective employer, will pay for
Speaker 1: the bill because they need their in demand right. I
Speaker 1: mean every h v i C company I know. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're fall over each other to try and get talent.
Speaker 1: How does that shake out relative to how much the
Speaker 1: degree itself costs or a program it self cost.
Speaker 7: Mike, Well, actually, you know, we we do have some
Speaker 7: employers that sends students to us, okay, and we train
Speaker 7: those students for the employers.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: But also as far as student financie is concerned, we
Speaker 7: have several different avenues. We have what's called uh you
Speaker 7: put some money down. We have tv D TFC, which
Speaker 7: is kind of a where you do some fun student
Speaker 7: financing on your own. The course by the way, it's
Speaker 7: only sixty five hundred dollars for the ten weeks, Okay,
Speaker 7: So it's uh, it's it's relatively extremely affordable, okay. And
Speaker 7: we all the different financial programs that are out there,
Speaker 7: We have several different options to go. We we are
Speaker 7: a veteran friendly school. I wanted to point that out.
Speaker 7: So we for the vets that have post nine eleven benefits, Uh,
Speaker 7: we are are school takes that so they the veterans,
Speaker 7: will pay for the uh for the sixty five dollars
Speaker 7: tuition fee. Also, we have some grant money that is
Speaker 7: available okay for not just a few of them post
Speaker 7: post on eleven benefits, uh, the guys that have exhausted
Speaker 7: those benefits. But we have h benefits also for high
Speaker 7: schoolers okay, that have graduated from high school. We have
Speaker 7: some Shore grant money from the Charles Share Foundation. And that,
Speaker 7: by the way, that's a brand new program that we're
Speaker 7: getting ready to launch here in February from the Charles
Speaker 7: Shore Foundation.
Speaker 2: If you're in one of the if you're a high.
Speaker 7: School counselor and you're listening to this program right now,
Speaker 7: please get in touch with the school. We have grant
Speaker 7: money for your graduating seniors. Okay, and they can come
Speaker 7: with come to the school for a class that's going
Speaker 7: to be starting strictly for the high school seniors in February,
Speaker 7: and that's going to be the ten week program before
Speaker 7: they even graduate from high school. Okay, well, nice, we
Speaker 7: have that's available, you know, so we we have a
Speaker 7: lot of different options.
Speaker 1: Mike Triple is here. He's the president of Southern Ohio
Speaker 1: Technical Institute, jumping on this morning to talk about good
Speaker 1: opportunities for people. Because everything we talk about in our
Speaker 1: city in Cincinnati, with it's crime or you know, look
Speaker 1: at snap benefits and things like that. You look at
Speaker 1: us and go, well, how do we prevent that from happening?
Speaker 1: How do we make people less dependent on well, good
Speaker 1: jobs and there's plenty of good jobs out there. We
Speaker 1: have a huge disconnect, unfortunately, and the gap is starting
Speaker 1: to shrink, There's no question about it. Between getting young
Speaker 1: people interested in the trades and as opposed as going
Speaker 1: through four years of school and you've got a job
Speaker 1: here at least with the folks at Southern Ohio. In
Speaker 1: about ten weeks, you get a job that pays forty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars it's going to cost you sixty five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars if you even pay for that, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of business there's a lot of companies will reimburse
Speaker 1: you to pay for it. But sixty five hundred I
Speaker 1: did the math in my head, Mike, and sixty five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars that's about what you would pay for two,
Speaker 1: I think four semesters maybe five semesters of books at
Speaker 1: college just for the books.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So it's a very affordable program. And
Speaker 7: guess what you mentioned. What is the job market in
Speaker 7: the next five years? Okay, Scott. We need about to
Speaker 7: fill about forty five thousand seats in the HVAC industry
Speaker 7: in the next over the next five years.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: So that's a pretty good, pretty good amount of job
Speaker 7: market there. So, and what's happening is is a lot
Speaker 7: of the older guys that were in the industry, okay,
Speaker 7: they're getting ready to retire, okay, and we need that
Speaker 7: new wave of the young people to come into the
Speaker 7: industry and pick up where they left off. And listen,
Speaker 7: as you pointed out, this is this is never going
Speaker 7: to be taken over by AI. Okay, Listen, We're always
Speaker 7: gonna need going to have a need to keep yourself
Speaker 7: cool in the summer warm in the winter.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 7: You know, if you want that cold can of beer
Speaker 7: or cold can of pop, you know it's your local
Speaker 7: seven eleven. Okay, We're there to take to train the
Speaker 7: people to keep that refrigeration going. So you know, it's
Speaker 7: a great industry. It's just I to be honest with you,
Speaker 7: I don't see any downside to it, Okay from my
Speaker 7: point of view.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but again there's some of the opportunity in
Speaker 1: all the Trades's find something you're interested in and HVAC,
Speaker 1: you know, but you can do residentially, you can do commercial,
Speaker 1: depending whether your interests are too. And it's in demand.
Speaker 1: And let's face it, we're talking about rolling out. I mean,
Speaker 1: Butler County is putting in what a one million square
Speaker 1: foot data center. Basically i AI's taken over Ohio at
Speaker 1: this point. All of those all those server rooms, everything
Speaker 1: there needs to have refrigeration, needs to be kept cool
Speaker 1: and climate controlled. And so that's just adding to more
Speaker 1: and more demand for you guys.
Speaker 2: Right exactly.
Speaker 7: You know, and I want to go over just one
Speaker 7: more time too and mention this that for the young people.
Speaker 7: We do have this grant money that is available okay
Speaker 7: for young people. If you graduated out of high school,
Speaker 7: you've kind of hit a wall. You don't know what
Speaker 7: you're going to do. If you were ninety days okay,
Speaker 7: ninety days before you graduate, up to one year after
Speaker 7: you graduate, there is money there for you to come
Speaker 7: to school. You can get up to a free ride,
Speaker 7: a partial or a free ride to the Charles Schward Foundation.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 7: It's a great grant. And it's also good for those
Speaker 7: veterans that have had a have exhausted or post nine
Speaker 7: eleven benefits. They can't they've run into a wall, they
Speaker 7: don't know what to do, they've exhausted all those We
Speaker 7: have a grant money for those veterans, okay as well
Speaker 7: through the Charles Schworre Foundation.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. There's money out there if you need it.
Speaker 1: It's the program's about sixty five hundred dollars, which is
Speaker 1: a certainly you look at that, Wow, sixty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: That's a fraction of what you would pay for higher education.
Speaker 1: For sure. This is going to get you working in
Speaker 1: about ten weeks. If you're good with your hands in
Speaker 1: your mind and you show up and you want to
Speaker 1: do the job. That's a lot of people. One of
Speaker 1: the big issues, of course for young folks is transper rotation.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, speaking for the trades now
Speaker 1: for a long time like that, that's it looks like
Speaker 1: it's trying to turn though. We're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to get people to school or classes and also
Speaker 1: to work. But that's like the big hurdle for a
Speaker 1: lot of folks. We know that that's an issue, uh
Speaker 1: to try and get them from point A to point
Speaker 1: B because generally you know, they're coming in with a
Speaker 1: little money. But the good news is, you know, once
Speaker 1: you get through this program, you're talking about making some
Speaker 1: significant coin, uh in as long as you want to
Speaker 1: work and keep working, especially the overtime. As you said,
Speaker 1: within five years you're making an easy six figures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, easily.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: It's it's a great it's this this has changed so
Speaker 7: much as industry is rapidly changing. Okay, and listen, you
Speaker 7: hit to be brought up to speed on all the
Speaker 7: new stuff that it's not.
Speaker 1: Like it was the day, well not not even I
Speaker 1: gotta I have a buddy buddy of mine and he
Speaker 1: retired I think not even eight I want maybe eight
Speaker 1: or nine years ago, started out, ran his own company,
Speaker 1: retired and it literally came up, you know, by his
Speaker 1: bootstraps and started his own own business. And HVAC Tech
Speaker 1: retired and I was asking, he goes, you know what
Speaker 1: it's It's funny something broke in my house of looking
Speaker 1: at it was like it's changed so much in the
Speaker 1: last five years. I had to call someone in to
Speaker 1: look at it. Because I unless you stay on top
Speaker 1: of the training. But that's true with a lot of
Speaker 1: these high tech fields. It's not just say we're slapping
Speaker 1: a furnace in it. Continue to education is huge.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's a great thing about about our school too,
Speaker 7: and the course that we have. We have, you know,
Speaker 7: the best trainers in the best lab. So are what
Speaker 7: the way we do is we're basically we were going
Speaker 7: we do a class and what they've learned in that
Speaker 7: power point in that class, they immediately go back and
Speaker 7: start applying that hands on right, okay, effectively hands on
Speaker 7: in the lab. And we've got a state of the
Speaker 7: art lab, all the latest equipment that's out there, the
Speaker 7: latest and the greatest stuff. We have it here at
Speaker 7: Southern Ohio Tech.
Speaker 1: All right, how do your students some of them may
Speaker 1: also have a day job too, or they have family
Speaker 1: is and how tough is that the balance if you're
Speaker 1: going to school and doing this ten week class.
Speaker 2: Well, this is a great thing about it.
Speaker 7: We have a morning class, okay, which is from nine
Speaker 7: in the morning till two in the afternoon. War if
Speaker 7: you need an evening class, we have an evening class
Speaker 7: that is five till ten o'clock, okay, And that's four
Speaker 7: days a week, Monday through Monday through Thursday. And it's
Speaker 7: five hours of classes or five hours ten weeks, two
Speaker 7: hundred hours. So we have morning classes and evening classes.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's pretty easy. I mean you squeeze five hours
Speaker 1: and then the work the evenings or mornings. You're good
Speaker 1: to go. So I know you have a class, you've
Speaker 1: got another class starting when on the when's the next
Speaker 1: class start up?
Speaker 7: Our next class is actually starting on the I believe
Speaker 7: it's December the sixth. So all you people out there
Speaker 7: just called Southern Ohio Tech and answer Diana. She'll guide
Speaker 7: you through the whole process.
Speaker 1: Goods, how many how many students do you have? In
Speaker 1: each class.
Speaker 7: Actually, we keep our classes small. We keep them down
Speaker 7: to eight students per class. Okay, and now so we
Speaker 7: can have that one on one with the instructor, which
Speaker 7: is so important because this is an accelerated class. So
Speaker 7: we hit to have that one on one with your instructor. Sure,
Speaker 7: so they get through this accelerated class. But it works
Speaker 7: out great for us. And listen, we've graduated over most
Speaker 7: four hundred students over the past six years and they're
Speaker 7: all out there working and I can just tell you
Speaker 7: success story atter success.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's fantastic, And then you can write your
Speaker 1: own ticket in life, which is the best if you're
Speaker 1: working for you ultimately. I think that's a goal for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. My Trible is the president of
Speaker 1: Southern Ohio Technical Institute at so ot I so D
Speaker 1: dot HVAC dot com for more and classes are starting
Speaker 1: up on December sixth. So if you're going, wow, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see myself working in fast food the rest
Speaker 1: of my life or you know, making minimum and I
Speaker 1: may get my job may go away. Maybe I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to school. I'm not a good student, or maybe
Speaker 1: I am a good student going I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do, but I know I don't want to spend
Speaker 1: all that money on something on the degree program that
Speaker 1: may not ever pay me back. This is a great
Speaker 1: alternative to it. And parents, mom and dad, you should
Speaker 1: not be looking down on your nose at this. This
Speaker 1: is a that's a wonderful job, can change your life
Speaker 1: and put you on the right trajector to be self sufficient. Mike,
Speaker 1: all the best, Thanks for jumping on this morning. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Scott, you sir, take care and news
Speaker 1: on the way in just minutes. Here it's a Scott's
Speaker 1: Loan show on this Friday morning. And when we return
Speaker 1: on the Big one seven hundred WLW. We also have
Speaker 1: a lot of sports going on this weekend. We got
Speaker 1: the Bearcats in Utah at Utah ten ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: kick and of course right before the bye, last game
Speaker 1: before the bye, Chicago's in town. Who the hell is
Speaker 1: our quarterback? That's the question Austin has the answers next
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WWT.
Speaker 5: All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: It is game day almost kind of sooner. You got
Speaker 1: the bear Cats tomorrow night, we got the FC and
Speaker 1: Action Sunday, and of course the Bengals. I'm here for
Speaker 1: it all. He's here for all of it because our
Speaker 1: buddy Austin Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty at noon today.
Speaker 1: How are you what up, Scott? How are you tell me?
Speaker 1: You tell me what's going on? How good you feeling
Speaker 1: about Sunday? I'm scale of one to ten, one being
Speaker 1: the worst, ten being it's a lock, it's a win.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand?
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say negative two hundred and seventy six. Two
Speaker 9: hundred and seventy six. Probably that number stands for how
Speaker 9: many rushing yards the Bears are probably gonna have against
Speaker 9: the Bank.
Speaker 1: And I'm still taking the under in that bet. By
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, because it's yeah, where do we begin
Speaker 1: to It just begins ends with defense, like we can
Speaker 1: talk till we're blowing in the face. Whether it's fla
Speaker 1: will apply flock that they got a fighting chance, right,
Speaker 1: it's who has the ball lasts probably at that point.
Speaker 1: But if it's Shake Browning, yeah, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they went.
Speaker 9: You go aha and pack it up, start booking your
Speaker 9: vacations for the second week of January and go somewhere warm.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, that's that's pretty much what it's
Speaker 9: come down to. And they are at least watchable with
Speaker 9: Joe Flacco. They weren't watchable with Jake Browning. You know,
Speaker 9: one of the talking points this week on our station
Speaker 9: down the Hall has been, you know, we talk about
Speaker 9: all the things Joe Burrow might be able to learn
Speaker 9: from Jake Browning or from Joe Flacco. But has Jake
Speaker 9: Browning learned anything from Joe Flacco over this last few weeks,
Speaker 9: and hopefully he has in the event that he has
Speaker 9: to play, whether it's Sunday or any other time. What
Speaker 9: are you going to learn from Joe Flacco that you
Speaker 9: learn from Joe Burrow. I mean, again, you can watch,
Speaker 9: you can study as much as you want, but you
Speaker 9: have to do it.
Speaker 1: And it's for him. It's not the physical because he
Speaker 1: was fine two years ago. It's maybe the two years,
Speaker 1: but also what's between his head. There's no cure for that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I do think that maybe that's actually where
Speaker 9: Flacco could be helpful, because Joe Burrow almost has this
Speaker 9: superhuman ability to process, right, Joe Flacco is this forty
Speaker 9: year old dad like figure that can maybe explain things
Speaker 9: in a different way, or provide a different perspective, or
Speaker 9: just there's something that clicks about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know his relationship with Jay Browning.
Speaker 9: I don't know what those meetings look like, but I
Speaker 9: think it would be, you know, possible that Browning picked
Speaker 9: up on something. But either way, nobody feels good about
Speaker 9: their chances with Jake Browning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean from top to bottom though outside
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is, the offensive line is doing their job.
Speaker 1: They're not just allowing him time to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: They're actually getting a gap for Chase brown to run
Speaker 1: through and put a big yards. And I would include
Speaker 1: in their sama JP Ryan is playing great. No fan
Speaker 1: is playing great. The one outlier there I think is
Speaker 1: Yoshi vas who's highly questionable. But other than that, top
Speaker 1: to bottom looks pretty solid, even the I said, the
Speaker 1: line as a unit is playing much better. Yeah, offensively.
Speaker 9: When it comes to the run game, they were the
Speaker 9: best run game in the NFL in the month of
Speaker 9: October and it wasn't really close, which is kind of
Speaker 9: amazing considering where this team was at. I mean, they're
Speaker 9: still thirty first in the NFL and run, but again,
Speaker 9: that speaks to how bad they were in the month
Speaker 9: of September. They totally flipped that script to be one
Speaker 9: of the best, if not the best, run games in
Speaker 9: the month of October. Can they keep that going? I
Speaker 9: think it's interesting too. Does that exist without the presence
Speaker 9: of Joe Flacco? So if Jake Browning has to play
Speaker 9: on Sunday, are they still going to be that effective
Speaker 9: in the run game? That I think is an interesting
Speaker 9: wrinkle in the whole thing. But you're right, offensive line
Speaker 9: feels like they're trending in the right direction, run game
Speaker 9: trending in the right direction. I almost think for a
Speaker 9: game like Sunday, Zach Taylor has to really be conscious
Speaker 9: of how much he's running the ball and controlling the
Speaker 9: clock because you want to play complimentary football, and the
Speaker 9: Bengals defense is so unbelievably bad that you might have
Speaker 9: to change the way you call the game offensively to
Speaker 9: keep your defense off the field.
Speaker 1: And what's going to help in that tremendously is the
Speaker 1: fact that the Bears come into this game absolutely struggling
Speaker 1: in run defense. I think they're the six month rushing
Speaker 1: bars allowed in the league. They're averaging like five point
Speaker 1: three a carry. Great for Chase brown great for the line.
Speaker 1: Great to take that pressure off of prison Jake Browning.
Speaker 1: You still have to throw the ball though, you can't
Speaker 1: just be one dimensional. But still if you look at
Speaker 1: that as a Bengals fan, going do we have a
Speaker 1: puncher's chance in this one? But that's the offense, right,
Speaker 1: We're back to this defense Austin. I saw this the
Speaker 1: twenty twelve Saints, notoriously the worst defense as far as
Speaker 1: yards allowed. They gave up over seven thousand yards this year. Today,
Speaker 1: the Bengals in twenty twenty five through seven games, thirty
Speaker 1: two to sixty three is what they've gone up. If
Speaker 1: you look at those numbers, they are on pace to
Speaker 1: be very close to what the Saints did in twenty
Speaker 1: twelve at all time worst runs. A lot of defense, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not a surprise. I mean the way that
Speaker 1: this team is playing, the lack of development, the inability
Speaker 1: to rush the passer. Now, with Trey Hendrickson being heard,
Speaker 1: I assume he's not going to play on Sunday. Logan
Speaker 1: Wilson's banged up as well, which is one of your
Speaker 1: better run defenders. When he's in the game. I don't
Speaker 1: know where they go from here. I mean think back
Speaker 1: to and I understand you use the Saints maybe as
Speaker 1: the ultimate example there, But think back to the last
Speaker 1: twenty five years and how many bad Bengals defenses that
Speaker 1: we said.
Speaker 9: I always reference. The twenty nineteen Bengals defense is the
Speaker 9: worst defensive unit I've ever watched play football. Well, how
Speaker 9: about this? This is a stat from Paul Danner Junior.
Speaker 9: It is the worst first eight games of any Cincinnati
Speaker 9: defense since two thousand.
Speaker 10: Cool.
Speaker 9: The twenty twenty five Bengals defense is dead last in
Speaker 9: total points allowed, points allowed per drive, defensive success percentage,
Speaker 9: expected points per play, and a touchdowns lout and touchdowns
Speaker 9: allowed per drive. The twenty twenty five Bengals. If you
Speaker 9: think there's multiple team two and three and four win
Speaker 9: teams in that twenty five years, this is the worst one.
Speaker 1: That's hard to fat That is really hard to believe.
Speaker 1: Isn't that considering the talent you have an offense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean back then they didn't have that kind of
Speaker 1: talent on offense either. Yeah, they're bad on offense too.
Speaker 1: Really pretty good on offense now, great when Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is in there. Pretty good when it's Joe Flacco not
Speaker 1: so good when it's Brownie, but all in all pretty good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And it just begs the question where exactly do
Speaker 9: they go from here because it doesn't feel like they're
Speaker 9: anywhere close to figuring it out. I mean, Miles Murphy
Speaker 9: is nowhere close. Now they're probably gonna get Cedric Johnson back,
Speaker 9: who was a draft pick a year ago and actually
Speaker 9: played pretty good over the last five games of last
Speaker 9: sear It hasn't played yet this year, so maybe that
Speaker 9: can give them a little bit of juice. Rushing the
Speaker 9: passer fine, Jamar Chase still has more tackles this year
Speaker 9: than Shamar Stewart, which is hard to fath him again.
Speaker 9: Trey Hendrickson is hurt, Logan Wilson is hurt. The linebackers,
Speaker 9: the young rookie linebackers. When you watch the film against
Speaker 9: the Jets, that's some of the most embarrassing film you'll
Speaker 9: ever see. Getting confused, running the wrong directions. Look like
Speaker 9: he was taking plays off taken from another planet and
Speaker 9: dropped on a football field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing, embarrassing. I will say this though, you
Speaker 1: got Chicago team and Caleb Williams are quarterback that has
Speaker 1: the one of the longest release times in the National
Speaker 1: Football leaue well over three seconds, which is an eternity, right,
Speaker 1: sure that with a calendar in the NFL. So he's
Speaker 1: got time, he's the hockey has been sacked, I think,
Speaker 1: and then they got the quarterback like twelve times this year.
Speaker 1: So if this is if there's a game where Shamar
Speaker 1: Stewart's gonna have time, it's gonna slow down to figure
Speaker 1: out be able to get to the quarterback. It's gonna
Speaker 1: begainst the Bears. You would think.
Speaker 9: I would not think that because if he's holding onto
Speaker 9: the ball that long, then I mean obviously they haven't
Speaker 9: had an issue getting protecting him anyways.
Speaker 1: Right, what I'm saying is it gives me more time
Speaker 1: to be able to figure I mean, I think you're
Speaker 1: a high draft pick.
Speaker 9: You should be able to solve that. I would say that.
Speaker 9: It just means they're going to carve up the Bengals secondary. See,
Speaker 9: you're always half full. There's nothing to you want another
Speaker 9: stat I got another stack?
Speaker 1: You know this stick?
Speaker 9: Give me uplifting up against the Jets last week? All right,
Speaker 9: the Jets offensive line ranked dead last in the NFL,
Speaker 9: and pressure percentage allowed, pressures per game and sacks per game.
Speaker 9: The Bengals had zero sacks in one quarterback and it
Speaker 9: came from a blitz from Cam Taylor Britt. The Jets
Speaker 9: had the worst offensive line in the National Football League,
Speaker 9: and that's all the Bengals can manage down and they
Speaker 9: blitzed twenty five percent of the time, a quarter of
Speaker 9: the snaps they blitzed, and that's all they could get.
Speaker 9: So it doesn't matter if Caleb Williams holds onto the ball,
Speaker 9: they aren't getting to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But if that really threw off turn me off.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of knew that, but I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to put a spin where it's not.
Speaker 9: It's not completely there is no spin. There is no hope.
Speaker 9: No defensively, there's no hope. And if Hendrickson doesn't play,
Speaker 9: hell no, there's I don't think it's gonna play. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that don't think you believe it passed the by Yeah.
Speaker 1: If there is no defensive if you have Flacco in there,
Speaker 1: it could get down to shut out where they get
Speaker 1: the last possession. Austin, look at me, you get the
Speaker 1: last possession. Look at me, get the last possession and
Speaker 1: they win like with three seconds.
Speaker 9: Sure, that's what they did against Yeah, that's what they
Speaker 9: were trying to do against the Ess All that's the pass.
Speaker 1: Just hold on.
Speaker 9: That's the game they have to play. Can we, please,
Speaker 9: Dear God, get the ball last and maybe we'll have
Speaker 9: a chance. And then maybe Zach Taylor will pissed down
Speaker 9: his leg again like he did Sunday against the Jets.
Speaker 9: That could very well be because that's the thing, that's
Speaker 9: who this team is. So I got him winning by three.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, go ahead?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: In two thousand and no Joe Flacco, no hope. In
Speaker 9: two thousand and nine, the Bengals were four and two
Speaker 9: and hosting the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: All right, it was the Cedric Benson revenge game.
Speaker 9: The Bengals ran all over him and beat him forty
Speaker 9: five to ten, one of the best games in Bengals
Speaker 9: history for Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson. Chris Henry caught
Speaker 9: a touchdown in that game. I think the score could
Speaker 9: be similar in favor of Chicago this week. Really, that
Speaker 9: forty five to ten type of thing.
Speaker 1: Embarrassing, another embarrassing loss. Yeah, what's the line that it's
Speaker 1: only like two and a half. I think two and
Speaker 1: a half. I don't understand that. Yeah, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: putting money on the Bears on that one.
Speaker 9: And I mean I do think you're like, if with
Speaker 9: Joe Flacco there is a path for them to offensively
Speaker 9: it works, sure and figure it out.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 9: However, no Jo, you have to know, no Trey Hendrickson,
Speaker 9: you have to be able to score forty to fifty points.
Speaker 9: That's hard to do. It requires near perfection offensively. No Joe,
Speaker 9: no Tray, no chance. That's exactly exactly right, Zach. Zach
Speaker 9: Taylor said this week that he had a one on
Speaker 9: one meeting with Joe Burrow. The amount of money I
Speaker 9: would pay to hear that conversation and what Burrow has
Speaker 9: to say about walks with a smirk and probably how
Speaker 9: are you doing? Yeah, yeah, what are you going to say?
Speaker 9: I mean they just kind of sit there in silence.
Speaker 9: I look at each other.
Speaker 1: I asked the Horde about this too, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you get guys like Jamar Chase chirping a little bit,
Speaker 1: like a little bit at the defense right after the game,
Speaker 1: and how long before that's snowballs?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: Right, you start losing some of those guys like this
Speaker 1: is stupid.
Speaker 9: I mean, you think about it. You you've already had
Speaker 9: Logan Wilson. And then last night McKinley Jackson requested a trade.
Speaker 9: Gino Stone said that, and Jamar Chase said he sought
Speaker 9: out Gino Stone and wanted to talk to him about
Speaker 9: this defensive players only meeting, and those two, you know,
Speaker 9: kind of leaders on each side of the ball hashed
Speaker 9: it out themselves. I really appreciate Jamar Chase leaning into
Speaker 9: the leadership role that he has and being the guy
Speaker 9: that speaks up and being honest and transparent of all that.
Speaker 9: And Jamar said, when Joe is hurt, everybody looks to me.
Speaker 9: And he this year, first year being a captain, I
Speaker 9: think has done a marvelous job of stepping up and
Speaker 9: holding people accountable and doing the right things as a leader.
Speaker 9: Nobody on defense has done that. You remember Trey Henderson,
Speaker 9: he wanted to be that guy. Where's Trey Hendrickson? He's quiet. Yeah,
Speaker 9: those guys, you know, they voted for Trey because he's
Speaker 9: an All Pro player. Yeah, he's the best guy. They
Speaker 9: didn't vote for Trey to be a captain because he's
Speaker 9: a captain and shows leadership abilities. They voted for him because,
Speaker 9: oh he's our best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not the vocal guy yelling at people right
Speaker 1: correct and from top to bottom, that's the m O
Speaker 1: of this team. It's always been like quiet, uh shucks,
Speaker 1: kind of you know, do your job. And I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I think they use somebody like I mean coaching back
Speaker 1: of coaching, but there's plenty of players, but like Dan Campbell,
Speaker 1: I mean you just look at Dan Cambell like he's
Speaker 1: gonna when when push comes to shove, he's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna make some noise if they're not playing up to
Speaker 1: the satisfaction.
Speaker 9: The entire Lions organization shares the identity of his head coach. Yes,
Speaker 9: and you could say to an extent that the Bengals
Speaker 9: currently feel that way with Zach Taylor, which is this
Speaker 9: kind of aloof quiet, everything's gonna be okay type of.
Speaker 1: Thing, like Milton from Auto Space.
Speaker 9: I will say this though, like prior to this year,
Speaker 9: there were guys in the leader in the locker room
Speaker 9: that were leaders, Von Bell, Sam Hubbard, Mike Hilton. Those
Speaker 9: type of players aren't there anymore.
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
Speaker 9: Defensively, there's no culture. Even lou Anna Rubo is no culture.
Speaker 9: Spoke softly but carried a big stick in those rooms.
Speaker 9: And I just don't think it exists right now. And again,
Speaker 9: another guy asking for a trade in the days after
Speaker 9: a player's only meeting and after letting go a guy
Speaker 9: like Mike Panell, who was one of those veteran dudes
Speaker 9: who's supposed to be a leader. I just think that
Speaker 9: that side of the ball is a complete and total mess.
Speaker 9: I would agree with you there, Joe Flacco versus Jake Browning.
Speaker 9: If Flacco can, if let's say he's hurt, can if
Speaker 9: with his left hand, could he still be better than
Speaker 9: Jake brown based off the last time we saw Jake
Speaker 9: Browning plugs. Yeah, okay, got it. Let's look at something
Speaker 9: a little more positive here. You see at Utah, it's
Speaker 9: a ten to fifteen start tomorrow and seventeenth rank Bearcats,
Speaker 9: twenty fourth ranked utes ESPN Game Day is gonna be
Speaker 9: out out in Utah. Twice this year they face a
Speaker 9: team from Utah. This would be the first one, and
Speaker 9: they look pretty good. Utah does. It's gonna be looks
Speaker 9: very good and they're favored right now by double digits.
Speaker 9: Now A big part of that is a home night
Speaker 9: game and all that stuff, and Evan Pryor the Bearcat
Speaker 9: running back is gonna be out.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a toll task for U see.
Speaker 9: But offensively, if Brendan soarsby plays the way he's been playing,
Speaker 9: they will have a shot in.
Speaker 1: Absolutely it should be a fun game to watch. They
Speaker 1: all have been fun to watch. And of course Cea
Speaker 1: on Sunday, yos and can put it away in Columbus,
Speaker 1: which I kinda do.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I get the home thing and you want to see
Speaker 1: him win it at home and that's great, but you don't.
Speaker 1: Anything can happen again. Time to exercise some demons in Columbus.
Speaker 1: One win all time in the city of Columbus for
Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati. Get it done on Sunday, move on to
Speaker 1: the next run. And they were all over them the
Speaker 1: other night too and could not put it away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stood at pretty outside. They did pretty well. So got
Speaker 1: with a one nil win on den Keys. Pretty good goal.
Speaker 1: Austin Olmore today at noon with Tony Pike on ESPN
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. Appreciate you have a great weekend. Who day,
Speaker 1: Go Bearcats, Go FC home of all that more seven
Speaker 1: hundred ww Cincinnati, don't want to be an American.
Speaker 2: Rain is all the.
Speaker 1: Highest with wet should cry out trick or treating the night.
Speaker 1: We are good for the little one who's and also
Speaker 1: for moms and dads who don't need the extra sugar
Speaker 1: but will gladly partake in stealing It's called the dad
Speaker 1: text and taking the snicker and the reeses and checking
Speaker 1: them for razor blades, which isn't a real thing. We
Speaker 1: made that up in order to screw kids over. I
Speaker 1: need to check that looks like there's a needle in it,
Speaker 1: and then you eat the snakers. No, I guess there was.
Speaker 1: Because kids are stupid and we need to take advantage
Speaker 1: of them. Also, with Halloween being today, tis the season
Speaker 1: to talk about ghosts and stuff like that. Why not.
Speaker 1: I'm in the holiday spirit myself. And the thing with
Speaker 1: ghost is, man, this is why you got to live
Speaker 1: a really clean or a fairly clean mortal life is
Speaker 1: because you don't want to screw this up and become
Speaker 1: a ghost. Because if you're walking around with chains on
Speaker 1: and you're going and visiting Scrooge in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night, you don't get any rest. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: any rest. It's a bad looks. Optics are bad for everybody.
Speaker 1: It's a real pain of the ass to screw up
Speaker 1: your life, or we gotta be a ghost Echo Bowtine's
Speaker 1: on the show this morning on seven hundred ww a
Speaker 1: real life ghostbuster and will teach you how not to
Speaker 1: become a ghost in a trap soul. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever had this subject matter before my show before,
Speaker 1: but I this is the kind of stuff I really
Speaker 1: like to talk about. E goo, good morning, how are you?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, good morning. I got to go have
Speaker 8: about sixteen cups of coffee, catch up to you. Smoke.
Speaker 1: It just comes out, It just comes out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm busy, and when I die, I won't be as
Speaker 1: busy anymore. But when I die, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a I don't want to be bothering people in
Speaker 1: the afterlife. I bother people enough now you know. I'll
Speaker 1: be tired. Then I just want to I want to rest.
Speaker 1: How do I not become a ghost and bother people?
Speaker 8: Oh God, you're a riot. Okay, let's see now go
Speaker 8: here's what you do. You take care of business while
Speaker 8: you're here on earth? There, Okay, So the book, which
Speaker 8: is called How to Live a Happily ever After Life,
Speaker 8: is about the six main reasons that we have discovered
Speaker 8: why ghosts choose to be ghosts.
Speaker 5: I mean, when we do a ghost.
Speaker 8: Listing job and I say week because I'm talking about
Speaker 8: my brother Michael and I.
Speaker 7: We always ask these souls what.
Speaker 8: Well, we always ask them, what's your name? And why
Speaker 8: are you here?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 1: And that's got you know, it's unfinished business, that's what
Speaker 1: you're saying, because I got something I gotta okay, and
Speaker 1: I think I kind of know that, right. That's what
Speaker 1: ghosts do. They hang around, they annoy you because that's
Speaker 1: what ghosts do. They're looking for some closure and you
Speaker 1: got How does a ghost get closure?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 8: God?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 11: You have to work on your beliefs about death before
Speaker 11: you die, because you know it's got Some of these
Speaker 11: souls they don't They don't believe in life after death.
Speaker 5: So when they die, when their soul comes out of
Speaker 5: their body, they don't know what to do.
Speaker 11: They they don't understand what's going on. They don't understand
Speaker 11: why angels are showing up saying, hey, come on with us,
Speaker 11: we'll take you to the other side. It's it's really
Speaker 11: kind of sad. Yeah, I'm thinking about teenage souls that
Speaker 11: I've met that say when we say why are you here.
Speaker 5: Why don't you go to the other side. Oh, it's
Speaker 5: going to be really boring.
Speaker 11: I'm going to get angel wings and then I'm just
Speaker 11: going to have to be serious and me an angel
Speaker 11: it's like, oh my god. Or another reason is people
Speaker 11: will say, well, my ex wife is over there and
Speaker 11: I hate her, or my ex.
Speaker 5: Cousin or my parents, or that they don't somebody they
Speaker 5: don't want to run into is on the other side,
Speaker 5: and so they think if they go there, they're going
Speaker 5: to run into them right away. I mean, you know
Speaker 5: what's that. It's more like ghost counseling than ghostbustinghs it.
Speaker 1: Heaven's kind of a big place, isn't there room. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not going to be on top of these If
Speaker 1: there's a jerk, you just avoid them, you know, you
Speaker 1: pick a different cloud.
Speaker 11: I know, honey. But see, that's the point is people
Speaker 11: don't think about it. They they you know, hear from
Speaker 11: other people what they believe about life after death, and
Speaker 11: so they think, okay, well, as soon as I get
Speaker 11: to have an I'm on a run into Susie and
Speaker 11: this one Ghosts that I met.
Speaker 5: She said that her boyfriend killed her and then he
Speaker 5: committed suicide.
Speaker 11: And she said, I don't want to go anywhere where
Speaker 11: he is. And I said to her, Sherry, Heaven is
Speaker 11: a really big place, and I said, chances of you
Speaker 11: running into this guy, I said, you know, when you
Speaker 11: get there, you can tell people you don't want to see.
Speaker 5: This guy, you don't want to talk to this guy.
Speaker 3: And it's so.
Speaker 11: Interesting to watch their expressions because they're like, oh, I never.
Speaker 7: Thought about that, isn't there Heaven.
Speaker 1: There's got to be some police for I mean, you
Speaker 1: get a restraining order and there are like a dead
Speaker 1: judge that can.
Speaker 5: Do that, you know, Scott, I've never given that any thought.
Speaker 1: Sure, there's got to be some sort of legal recourse
Speaker 1: in heaven. You know, it's not just a free for
Speaker 1: all do whatever you want. There's got to be some rules,
Speaker 1: and if there's roles, there's got to the authority to
Speaker 1: enforce the rules. So I don't know, if you go
Speaker 1: to God or whatever you could get he's like the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court and then the apostles everybody else below him.
Speaker 1: Those are like your appellet courts and down away.
Speaker 11: I think you should write a book.
Speaker 5: I think you should write a book on this, because
Speaker 5: you just said things to me that I've never even
Speaker 5: thought about it.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know how to read anyway.
Speaker 1: It's echo Bodin on the show this morning on seven
Speaker 1: hundred Wow, how to be a Live, a happily ever
Speaker 1: after life stores are trapped souls on to become basically
Speaker 1: not how to be how to not become a ghost
Speaker 1: out there bothering people, dragon change. It seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of work being a ghost haunting people, isn't it.
Speaker 11: Yes, it can be. I mean, but you know, okay,
Speaker 11: so some of them they just start making the noises
Speaker 11: and playing with the lights and the computers and TVs
Speaker 11: because they're bored and.
Speaker 5: They want some attention. Others are kind of jerks when
Speaker 5: they were living, and so they're they're loving this here.
Speaker 1: You're an ahole in life. You're an a hole in
Speaker 1: that perfect yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, so it really is. You know,
Speaker 5: I mean, we all end up there, and it's a.
Speaker 11: Good idea to give us some thought before you go.
Speaker 11: Because I have seen souls who.
Speaker 5: When they come out of their body. They're just like,
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do. I don't know, you
Speaker 5: know what The number one reason is. These souls tell
Speaker 5: us they are afraid if they go to heaven they're
Speaker 5: going to get sent to hell.
Speaker 1: Oh says oh, okay, yeah, well it's like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like fomo, right is it?
Speaker 12: Like?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'd really like to go if it's
Speaker 1: everything they promise, But I gotta feel I'm gonna go there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna apply, I'm gonna sit there, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: all this fill off the paperwork, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get bounced and I don't I'm as well. Purgatory is
Speaker 1: not so bad. Just hanging around being a ghost as
Speaker 1: isn't so bad.
Speaker 5: Okay, Scott, really, I promise you don't have to still
Speaker 5: out paperwork when you get there.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Everything's a bureaucracy, but but I I couldn't disagree with Himore.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's paperwork.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you got to bring an ID. It's a
Speaker 1: real thing. Waiting in lines. Tell me there's a line
Speaker 1: to get in the head. There's got to be a line.
Speaker 5: I mean, heaven is huge. It's like saying, there's gotta
Speaker 5: be a line to get to earth. No is there.
Speaker 11: It's all over the place.
Speaker 1: Somebody, somebody's checking you in.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: It's not a new business models. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: we've got an app and you do all your check
Speaker 1: in on time. I don't care. This is old school.
Speaker 1: I gotta go wait in a lot. I talk to
Speaker 1: a guy and then he's late because he's on his break,
Speaker 1: and then I'm waiting for somebody else, and it's not
Speaker 1: you know, AI isn't going to solve this thing I got.
Speaker 1: I'm still literally, I got a pen and a clipboard
Speaker 1: in the waiting room like a doctor's office, and I'm
Speaker 1: filling stuff out. There's there's a line.
Speaker 5: Believe believe me. It's very organized, very organized. People know
Speaker 5: when you get there.
Speaker 11: People know ahead of time when we're dying, our deceased
Speaker 11: loved ones and our relatives, they know, oftentimes they're there
Speaker 11: waiting for us, or oftentimes when we are in our
Speaker 11: dying process, they are here with us on this side,
Speaker 11: so that when our soul comes out of the body,
Speaker 11: Oh there's mom, there's dad, there's grandpa, there's grandma, there's
Speaker 11: my dog Charlie. Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty cool
Speaker 11: system the way it works.
Speaker 1: How do they know? What kind of notification do they get?
Speaker 1: Did it pop up on their phone to get an email?
Speaker 1: What happens? How do they know I'm dying? How would
Speaker 1: they know?
Speaker 2: They?
Speaker 5: Okay, so before you pass away, your soul is communicating
Speaker 5: with people on the other side. Okay, your soul knows
Speaker 5: that your death is coming. You're not conscious of it,
Speaker 5: but your soul is communicating with the people on the
Speaker 5: other side. And there are greets had their really nice
Speaker 5: souls that welcome, welcome you home. Really, it's a really
Speaker 5: cool system of welcoming your soul back home. Even you know.
Speaker 5: I was just reading a story.
Speaker 11: Last night about lady who committed suicide and she was
Speaker 11: so afraid that she wasn't going to get into heaven.
Speaker 11: And people that commit suicide they go into heaven just
Speaker 11: like everybody does.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a sin. I thought that was
Speaker 1: I thought that was a no go. I thought that's
Speaker 1: a bad one.
Speaker 5: No, that's just religions perspective.
Speaker 6: But no, Yeah, the people that I've.
Speaker 11: Communicated with have all said no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 11: God doesn't No, God's not like that, that angry, vengeful,
Speaker 11: jealous god.
Speaker 5: Now that doesn't exist. And if somebody is hurting that
Speaker 5: bad to take their life, of course they're welcomed back home.
Speaker 5: So it's a different system.
Speaker 1: At least what most of us have been taught, you know, right,
Speaker 1: echobodines on the show this morning, how to live a happy,
Speaker 1: happily ever after life, stories of trap soles on to
Speaker 1: become one basically, not how to become a ghost, and
Speaker 1: that is closing a business before you pass away, making
Speaker 1: sure that there's no loose ends left in your light.
Speaker 1: And how do you convert someone who's well, let me
Speaker 1: back up a second, How the hell do you know
Speaker 1: all this stuff? What makes you an expert on the afterlife?
Speaker 3: How do you know that?
Speaker 11: I have psychic abilities? And so I have been I
Speaker 11: don't believe me.
Speaker 5: I have been slowly.
Speaker 11: Learning about all of this for the last fifty four years,
Speaker 11: and I just have these experiences, you know, when someone passes,
Speaker 11: I'm able to communicate with their soul and they tell
Speaker 11: me about heaven. I've had three friends and the last
Speaker 11: year die that have come back and oh my, you
Speaker 11: know this is happening. That's happening. It's It's been a
Speaker 11: fun and very interesting experience because I've learned things that
Speaker 11: we aren't taught in religion. And that's another reason why
Speaker 11: I thought, you know, I need to write this book,
Speaker 11: because people have a lot of misconceptions about death. A
Speaker 11: lot of people are so afraid to die, and there's
Speaker 11: you know what, Scott, it seems like, at least from
Speaker 11: what I've seen and what I've heard from people, it's
Speaker 11: probably the easiest thing we'll ever do, is when we
Speaker 11: finally let go of the body and we just move
Speaker 11: on to the other side. And it is gosh, Scott,
Speaker 11: the pictures I've seen of the other side are absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And can you send some to me? Would you? How
Speaker 1: do you get the pictures? Are they dead gramm or
Speaker 1: fatal book? Is it like the dB I have?
Speaker 5: Oh god, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 11: I have what's called clairvoyance, which means that you get visions.
Speaker 11: I get visions in my mind and I communicate with
Speaker 11: spirit in my mind. They think to me, that's how
Speaker 11: they commut.
Speaker 2: Sow.
Speaker 5: It's just been a matter of kind of putting together.
Speaker 11: A big jupa saw puzzle of Oh that, oh, now
Speaker 11: I understand that picture. Oh now I understand what this
Speaker 11: person meant. Yeah, it's been it's been a long journey,
Speaker 11: but very interesting. And the other thing that's cool is
Speaker 11: I just I keep learning, you know. It isn't like,
Speaker 11: oh my god, got I would not claim to be
Speaker 11: an expert on this stuff. I am just passing on
Speaker 11: what I've learned so far.
Speaker 1: I've talked to other folks like yourself. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's just you're like a conduit, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think there's some consistency there and the like.
Speaker 1: But okay, So I think the question most people have
Speaker 1: is what is the absolute echo? What is the absolute
Speaker 1: bare minimum bare minimum I need to be able to
Speaker 1: get into heaven? What's like the what is this I
Speaker 1: just need to get It's like passing the class, right,
Speaker 1: All I need to do is get.
Speaker 6: That d.
Speaker 8: Honey, there's no.
Speaker 1: Wait, man, I could go Are you saying I could
Speaker 1: go like murder someone and still get into heaven. That
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right.
Speaker 5: Yes, I know it doesn't seem right, but I mean
Speaker 5: that that's going to involve karma. So what you do
Speaker 5: to others, you will experience yourself. It all balances out,
Speaker 5: it all.
Speaker 11: Has to balance out, and so what we it's the
Speaker 11: golden rule of what we do unto others comes back
Speaker 11: onto us.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's no there's no Hell. Then we got
Speaker 1: that wrong.
Speaker 5: They angels have told me there is no such place
Speaker 5: as hell, because God.
Speaker 11: Would never create a place like that. But it doesn't
Speaker 11: mean that we all get to be terrible people and
Speaker 11: then go on to the other side because we bring
Speaker 11: we bring that guilt with us, we bring that shame.
Speaker 10: That ugh.
Speaker 11: I mean, I've seen some souls who and that's what
Speaker 11: I mean when I ask these ghosts, Okay, why don't
Speaker 11: you go to the other side?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh God, there's no way. There's no way I could.
Speaker 11: I'm going to get sent to Hell for sure. They'll
Speaker 11: go there and they'll have to work through.
Speaker 5: All the crap that they did to people.
Speaker 1: So it's like you go, it's like the minor leagues
Speaker 1: of heaven. Basically you sent down a like low A,
Speaker 1: and then you work on your game until you build up,
Speaker 1: maybe you get promoted to Triple A and eventually make
Speaker 1: the big league Heaven club kind of thing.
Speaker 11: Well, you know what, there are different levels I've seen
Speaker 11: that also different levels in heaven, and so you know,
Speaker 11: if you're murdering people, you are, boy, you're at the
Speaker 11: bottom of the.
Speaker 5: Wrong I mean, you're in heaven. But you know what's
Speaker 5: got It's kind of like.
Speaker 11: People that commit these kind of crimes against other people
Speaker 11: or animals, they take all that guilt with them and
Speaker 11: they have to work it out some way.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: What's that part of having called where it's like the
Speaker 1: low end, the you know, the the wrong side is
Speaker 1: what do you call these? Is it called Pittsburgh there too?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: There you go.
Speaker 5: No, it's just when you're there, you're kind, you're it's.
Speaker 2: Like you're.
Speaker 11: Certain level soul.
Speaker 5: But you know what, we've got it here. I mean,
Speaker 5: think about it. We've got old souls here, young souls here,
Speaker 5: the young souls or the kids in the gangs, people
Speaker 5: that are hurting other people. Then we've got you know,
Speaker 5: older souls and they're the ones trying to help the
Speaker 5: younger souls. And oh yeah, well it really is.
Speaker 1: It is fascinating. We got to talk in depth. Maybe
Speaker 1: some other time. I'd love to have you back.
Speaker 2: Echo, Okay, sweet Sight, just let me know.
Speaker 1: Echo Bodine, who is not only clairvoyant but also how
Speaker 1: to live a happily ever after life. Stories of trap
Speaker 1: souls and how not to become one, which your chips
Speaker 1: to sounds to me like you're pretty golden here just
Speaker 1: by you. It's like, man, I'm just showing up and
Speaker 1: I get into heaven. I don't have to do anything good.
Speaker 1: This is pretty sweet. I gotta get going because I
Speaker 1: got a crime spree to get to.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, Okay, you go, I got.
Speaker 1: Some banks for rob. I'll see you later.
Speaker 2: Echo.
Speaker 1: Now I get you some twenties. You seem like a
Speaker 1: good kid over there. And first of for me, I've
Speaker 1: lived in a city where crime has looked at favorite
Speaker 1: by this administration.
Speaker 8: Guy.
Speaker 1: You you promise that to do it again? You're fine,
Speaker 1: You're fine. We all get to go to everyone gets
Speaker 1: a participation ribbon. Apparently, why are we fighting it? Why
Speaker 1: are we fighting it? Great? Uh a converse. I try
Speaker 1: to have her on every year at Gobodine how not
Speaker 1: to become a ghost simply because it's Halloween, And uh
Speaker 1: that's kind of ghost story. See Thealian right there, and
Speaker 1: they all heavy lift. We've got lots of serious stuff
Speaker 1: going on in the world. It's Friday morning, and on
Speaker 1: top of that, it's Halloween. Let's just enjoy things at
Speaker 1: least for today. Anyway, we'll reset back on Monday. Here
Speaker 1: Scott Sloan, I'm the whole, the best Bengals coverage seven
Speaker 1: hundred WWT Cincinnati. The weekend's coming on and you need
Speaker 1: to make the most advent.
Speaker 2: Where do you go and what to do?
Speaker 4: She has the tips and insight to help you make
Speaker 4: it a super weekend, So listen up. This is the
Speaker 4: Local Loop with Ali Martin on seven hundred WLW yay.
Speaker 1: I love that because it means the weekend and it's
Speaker 1: like literally inches away here where let's look, we're first
Speaker 1: in goal right now. Allie Martin is here and she
Speaker 1: brought a fan. Ali.
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 10: I am great?
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well. Miranda McGee is here
Speaker 1: with American Legacy tourists and since he's token Australian, certainly
Speaker 1: am today our DEI appointment on the show to.
Speaker 10: Smile checking that box.
Speaker 1: You're welcome say something on Australian.
Speaker 10: Oh you want me to say that ain't a knife,
Speaker 10: this is an ife. I know what you want.
Speaker 1: I will say. I was in Australia for two weeks.
Speaker 1: It was a bucket list trip when I was there
Speaker 1: and I tried vegemite and actually really not that bad.
Speaker 1: I mean she just ate it straight up, which is horrible,
Speaker 1: but vegemite is it's really salty. You got to put
Speaker 1: a little bit on with a lot of butter and
Speaker 1: a piece of toast.
Speaker 4: I wasn't that bad.
Speaker 10: Look if you can eat Skyline chili, pret you're prepared
Speaker 10: and Vegemi's just logical.
Speaker 1: Next you, please, you gotta do the beautiful country. I
Speaker 1: love Australia. I'm really, really, really pleased, so going to talk.
Speaker 1: But the reason why Miranda is here with Adley this
Speaker 1: morning is because tolloween have your costume is great and
Speaker 1: thank you gone as an idiot again this year?
Speaker 6: What are you?
Speaker 1: I'm an underachiever. Give me your damn candy as I've
Speaker 1: lost my mind, yes moron. The reason why is she
Speaker 1: has all these ghost stories, and I think it's even
Speaker 1: scarier when you have someone in the Australian accents. Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: it softens a bit.
Speaker 12: And Miranda honestly is the best person to tell these
Speaker 12: ghost stories. Yes, because she has an accent, but also
Speaker 12: she is just as scared of them.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I take the ghost stories.
Speaker 1: If you had a British accent, like really you know,
Speaker 1: to me, that's like okay, you're like yeah, some sort of.
Speaker 1: But the Australian accent, I don't know if I could
Speaker 1: take you seriously. You're like your your accents like the
Speaker 1: banjo of spoken word, very happy.
Speaker 10: Have you ever seen a sca at Australian there? So, yeah,
Speaker 10: that's a.
Speaker 1: Whole number freakishly big spiders.
Speaker 10: And I was raised with humorus. That's what my dad
Speaker 10: called them. Half human, half kangaroo. It's a little known
Speaker 10: in fact, but the only way you could escape from
Speaker 10: a humorou was to go into the tent, lay down
Speaker 10: and close your eyes and breathe deeply as a child,
Speaker 10: which is the way to get us to go to therapy.
Speaker 1: Look them up, go to bed, or the kangaroo is
Speaker 1: going to come out from in your.
Speaker 2: Bed and eat you.
Speaker 10: Those are the vampire kanker.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's getting it done. Yes, that's a good
Speaker 1: thought to put a child's head, all right, So let's jump.
Speaker 10: In the beauty behind this, right.
Speaker 12: Miranda has all of these ghost stories, and we like
Speaker 12: to talk about what's happening in the city, and we
Speaker 12: just so happen to have a lovely pairing of things
Speaker 12: that are happening in the city, but also ghost stories
Speaker 12: to go along with it. So if you go to
Speaker 12: any of these events that we're talking about, you could
Speaker 12: think of all of the scary things that she's about
Speaker 12: to tell in an Australian accent. So it's a party starter. Okay,
Speaker 12: here we go, Miranda. Shall we start with Higbel?
Speaker 10: I'd love to start with Highbell. Let's start with Hibel. Yeah,
Speaker 10: you want to tell me what's going on at Hibel first?
Speaker 10: Or should I give the history?
Speaker 12: Let's tell So what's happening at high Ball is they
Speaker 12: have a pop up called the Black Lagoon pop up,
Speaker 12: So it's basically cocktails and coffins, you name it, killer
Speaker 12: cocktails that have everything to do with Halloween. And it's
Speaker 12: only around until November first, so you're gonna want to
Speaker 12: check that out. It's very similar to like, you know
Speaker 12: how the Miracle Bar has the pop up during the holidays.
Speaker 10: This is like that, but for Halloween. Sure it's at
Speaker 10: high Ball near Friendly Market. Yeah, which is great because
Speaker 10: if you want to have with the cocktails, because if
Speaker 10: you want to have spirits with spirits that is where
Speaker 10: I go at high Ball. The building's been there since
Speaker 10: the early eighteen hundreds and it used to be a
Speaker 10: candy store and the man who ran it, Joseph Heller,
Speaker 10: he was called the Candy Man. He was very well
Speaker 10: known in Overthrown, which sounds terrifying, but he was quite
Speaker 10: a beloved figure and ever since Jacob Trevino and them
Speaker 10: have been set up at high Ball. When you're down
Speaker 10: in the basement, if they look at the cameras, they
Speaker 10: see like when they're closing up at night, they see
Speaker 10: figures walking through the hole above them. As they're closing
Speaker 10: up in the back room, the party room, they'll hear
Speaker 10: sounds of a celebration and party. But when they go
Speaker 10: that back there and open the door, there's nobody there,
Speaker 10: and the bar stuff are quite relaxed about it. They're
Speaker 10: like it's a joyous place. I'm like, they're not alive,
Speaker 10: and they're like it's all good. They always have candy
Speaker 10: in a ball on stand, right, it's so weird. You're
Speaker 10: lasting ball of candy.
Speaker 1: And they all got candy that had like a razor
Speaker 1: blade in it. That's how they died. And that's the
Speaker 1: Candyman can horrible.
Speaker 12: Yeah, didn't you say and tell me the story or
Speaker 12: tell all of us the story about how Halloween wasn't
Speaker 12: celebrated on a certain day because of.
Speaker 10: That was a candy man, that was the Cincinnati Strangler.
Speaker 1: But do you know the would you get it straight?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 1: She's going from different a lot of them.
Speaker 10: There's a lot of trap.
Speaker 1: Sammy Davis Junior going by. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on over here? What else you get?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 1: What's this one?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 10: The Cincinnati Strangler terrorized the city between late nineteen sixty
Speaker 10: five and sixty six, and he strangled assultant and tragically
Speaker 10: strangled seven women, some with their unclothing, stockings and belts.
Speaker 10: And because of that, Halloween was moved to Sunday afternoon
Speaker 10: for a couple of years in Cincinnati, and some counties
Speaker 10: still celebrated on Sunday because of the Cincinnati strangle.
Speaker 1: It so awful they changed. He got single handedly destroyed Halloween.
Speaker 10: I don't think that was the worst thing he did.
Speaker 12: But it's time heels all right, there's a lot more
Speaker 12: people I would say that that is true.
Speaker 10: That is true.
Speaker 1: If you look wow people, I tend to look at
Speaker 1: the glass. I tend to look at the juggler as
Speaker 1: half full.
Speaker 10: The windpipe.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I did. All right, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So the string and what what year was that?
Speaker 10: When the late nineteen sixty five to sixty sex and
Speaker 10: then the guy who was accused of it, I do
Speaker 10: not think actually did it. He did murder someone, but
Speaker 10: the murder was so different than all the other strangler deaths.
Speaker 10: It's just that when this guy got arrested, all the
Speaker 10: strangler killing stopped, and so they literally pinned it on
Speaker 10: this guy. He could still be alive and well and
Speaker 10: walking on our community.
Speaker 2: Wow. All right.
Speaker 1: God, if only Dateline were around back then, going or.
Speaker 12: Even now right, all right, if you couldn't pick up
Speaker 12: a common theme here, there's a lot of death that
Speaker 12: happens inner city, including around the tunnels right Finley Market area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all those tunnels have to have stories.
Speaker 10: Yeah, oh, one hundred percent. In the northern part of
Speaker 10: over the Rhine, which is where Finley Market is, until
Speaker 10: the eighteen fifties, there were no taxes and no laws.
Speaker 10: It was like the wild West over there.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 10: Some people think it is. I agree, I'm like sure,
Speaker 10: some people still think that's true. I always say it's
Speaker 10: kind of like Australia. So that's why it feels so
Speaker 10: comfortable in the northern end of over the Rhine.
Speaker 9: But because of that, all her fault, not getting a
Speaker 9: wrap for this, I wasn't even born then, what.
Speaker 10: The hell right, she's been around for a long time,
Speaker 10: just reinventing us.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 10: So because of that, there's a lot of deaths that
Speaker 10: happened there, a lot of murder that was never resolved,
Speaker 10: it was never reported, never resolved, and because of that,
Speaker 10: spirits can't move on. According to our paranormal team, there's
Speaker 10: probably a lot of pe people died building these eighteen
Speaker 10: hundreds brewery tunnels, and then once the tunnels were constructed,
Speaker 10: probably a lot of people died in the tunnels due
Speaker 10: to a lot of gangster energy and uh and activity
Speaker 10: we had here over the Rye and in Newport. So
Speaker 10: because of that reason, there's all these spirits down there.
Speaker 10: Ali has experienced some firsthands.
Speaker 1: Have had the future. You could be a good ghost.
Speaker 1: You don't get over stuff easy either. No spirits grudge.
Speaker 12: Honestly, one of there was one time that we were
Speaker 12: down in the tunnels and the ghosts did not call
Speaker 12: me a very nice name. I'm not sure I could
Speaker 12: say it on air. I was a little offended, but
Speaker 12: it didn't stop me from going back down.
Speaker 1: Wait, you heard the ghost and taught you Yeah, So.
Speaker 10: Actually, do you want to explain what the estes method?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, we use the spirit box. These are on our
Speaker 10: Ultimate Nightmare and Elm Street tours. That's what these tours
Speaker 10: are called. Down in the tunnels, and you have a
Speaker 10: spirit box which basically scans through radio stations. The person
Speaker 10: on the spirit box has noise canceling headphones and usually
Speaker 10: blindfold so they can't All they can see and hear
Speaker 10: is the radio station scanning, and occasional words come out.
Speaker 10: Now where on the other side of this asking questions.
Speaker 10: The person with the headphones on cannot heal or we're asking.
Speaker 10: They just yell out the words that Oh, they just
Speaker 10: say the words that come up on the spill, and
Speaker 10: it's like having a conversation with someone. It is very eerie.
Speaker 10: You're on the outside again. They cannot hear you, and
Speaker 10: we'll ask who's speaking to us, like Ali will be
Speaker 10: like Abigail or something like it against you can't he
Speaker 10: have a name?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Or like where do you want us to go and
Speaker 12: that day. And in addition to that element of equipment,
Speaker 12: have the copper rods? Have you seen those where you
Speaker 12: can be holding the copper rods, and you also ask questions,
Speaker 12: you know, across the rods, uncross the rods, yes or no,
Speaker 12: type questions, point in certain directions, point to certain people.
Speaker 12: When you're down in those tunnels enough times, they definitely
Speaker 12: start to recognize.
Speaker 10: And one of the ghosts called me an s.
Speaker 12: L u T and then we're like, okay, well, point
Speaker 12: at the person who you're calling that, and they pointed
Speaker 12: to me and she's just swinging it.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 10: It was really fast too. It didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 12: It didn't hesitate. They're probably very confused by the like,
Speaker 12: who is this giraffe in overalls? We've not seen this
Speaker 12: at our time? That's insane? Your sure, okay, so man,
Speaker 12: is it a bit is there? Like you know, Kyle's
Speaker 12: in the back room of the transitor, like over the microphone.
Speaker 10: We are incredibly pure. We have a paranormal team and
Speaker 10: they are incredibly respectful of the spirits. We're not allowed
Speaker 10: to use Wiji boards or anything like that because they
Speaker 10: don't like opening it up in our tunnels. We even
Speaker 10: do a prayer before and after to kind of make
Speaker 10: sure nothing follows us or attaches to the equipment, because
Speaker 10: you don't want to wake up with something at the
Speaker 10: end of your bed.
Speaker 12: And you're really good about debunking, right because people, you know,
Speaker 12: if if flashlights or something dies, there are elements of that.
Speaker 12: There have been multiple times where I've been in the
Speaker 12: tunnel and it's this really weird feeling. You know, if
Speaker 12: someone were to be like whispering in your ear and
Speaker 12: like if they cuff your hands, you're really really close.
Speaker 10: I've had that happen so many times where it's like,
Speaker 10: a way, it is weird, it is weird.
Speaker 5: You got me.
Speaker 1: I got to do one of these one.
Speaker 10: Come on, you shut all the lights off. It's only
Speaker 10: a flashlight. Come into the dock with us.
Speaker 1: How many people go in and pee themselves when this happens,
Speaker 1: By the way, is that common? Kind of do you haven?
Speaker 1: It was just down there.
Speaker 10: It was just one drunk guy who looked very uncomfortable
Speaker 10: for the tool asked if there were restrooms down the tunnels.
Speaker 10: I'm like, well, these are eighteen hundreds be a tunnels. No,
Speaker 10: it's not restrooms. So then he disappeared from the group
Speaker 10: and then came back looking much relieved, and he it's
Speaker 10: not the man.
Speaker 1: That drinking a couple of beers before Ali is here.
Speaker 1: It's a local along with Miranda McGee. She's an American
Speaker 1: Legacy Tours and since he's token Australian, we're talking about
Speaker 1: Ghoster real coasters in Cincinnati. We've got uh, we got
Speaker 1: slashers and stranglers. We've got the tunnels where the or
Speaker 1: prohibition and beer and people are dying under there, and
Speaker 1: we got spirits that are talking over radios and there's
Speaker 1: copper rods involved. And Ali is the moral characters.
Speaker 10: We got it, all those spirits. Little you didn't bring
Speaker 10: the whiskey down here? What the heck?
Speaker 12: Legibly there's a dog in one of the tunnels, which
Speaker 12: segues really nicely because right near a friendly market. Also,
Speaker 12: this weekend there's going to be a Halloween dog costume contest,
Speaker 12: So if you want to dress up your your dog
Speaker 12: and maybe try to win some cash and some money
Speaker 12: and also go down into the tunnels and take a
Speaker 12: tour at the same time, so we had.
Speaker 6: To do it.
Speaker 1: Is it a good idea to bring your rott water
Speaker 1: down there with a haunted dog docking is what could
Speaker 1: go wrong?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 10: Nothing, nothing like a fantastic idea. You know, it's so
Speaker 10: weird to me. And it's not an Australian thing, Scott.
Speaker 10: When you were in Australia, did you say any animals
Speaker 10: like dressed.
Speaker 1: Up dressed dressed up animals?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Ascote I was a mascot at the at the stand
Speaker 1: at the cricket Grounds in Melbourne where I saw.
Speaker 10: That's a mascot yet strolling around with the animals jump.
Speaker 10: It was winter there, so it's not It's not a
Speaker 10: thing in Australia. In fact, I googled it to make
Speaker 10: sure it wasn't a thing, and all it gave me
Speaker 10: a I just gave me. It's like, did you mean fairies?
Speaker 10: I did not, I really, I really meant animals dressing.
Speaker 1: Like literally dressing your dog up as a fireman.
Speaker 10: Or Australia does not have a reference for that. They're like,
Speaker 10: I think you mean fairies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't get it. It's just an American things.
Speaker 10: It's adorable. I love its. Americans love our dog. We
Speaker 10: love our dogs.
Speaker 1: Try to yeah, we try to make them assume as possible.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it because dogs are the best people I know, Well.
Speaker 10: Unless you're my neighbor. I'm about to beef with my neighbor.
Speaker 1: Oh we got beef.
Speaker 10: Oh we got beef.
Speaker 12: She's got a little dog, and then my boyfriend's dog.
Speaker 12: It's a golden dude, cutsehole thing. All she wants to
Speaker 12: do is love, have love, infection and lick fays. This morning,
Speaker 12: She's like, sh that dog looks like it's over forty pounds,
Speaker 12: but she's not. We're gonna talk about this in the meeting,
Speaker 12: and I'm like, oh, you're messing with the wrong I'm
Speaker 12: gonna dress her up as a little cute little pumpkin
Speaker 12: and it's gonna win everybody over and the.
Speaker 1: One person complaining and Miranda, this is how the ghost
Speaker 1: stories start. One hundred years I'm turning. There is this
Speaker 1: tall you see, and she had a golden douce.
Speaker 10: I find out your apartment building is haundered now in
Speaker 10: a mysterious death to me like the dog is overwhelm
Speaker 10: and her dogs.
Speaker 1: You got home for one more?
Speaker 2: What do you got?
Speaker 10: Ooh? How about music Hall? Music Hall one of the
Speaker 10: top fifty most haunted places in the United States. According
Speaker 10: to Time magazine, Okay, what makes it honest? So it's
Speaker 10: a threefold reason. If you look at music Hall, it's
Speaker 10: like divided into three buildings. The north end was the
Speaker 10: site of an orphanage. The middle building were Springer Auditorium
Speaker 10: is right behind it. What is now a parking garage
Speaker 10: was Ohio's first lunatic asylum. Their words not mine, and
Speaker 10: they buried a lot of the patients from the lunatic
Speaker 10: asylum in the foundation of Music Hall. I used to
Speaker 10: turn patients loosely. These people were treated horribly. You could
Speaker 10: hear the screams from across the canal where Central Parkway
Speaker 10: is now, and you could be put into the lunatic
Speaker 10: asylum for almost nothing. Husbands would put their wives in
Speaker 10: there for being too emotional metapause. I know I would
Speaker 10: have been. It's called perrymanopause. I would have been in
Speaker 10: it like that. And then then South end when they
Speaker 10: dug out the foundation in twenty six they found over
Speaker 10: two hundred pounds of human remains in the south end
Speaker 10: from one of the cholera epidemics we had. There's a
Speaker 10: mass grave in there. It between mass grave, Lunatic Asylum, orphanage.
Speaker 10: You're kind of checking the boxes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of angry people
Speaker 1: with issues. Yeah, a lot of track turns a lot
Speaker 1: of people with this shoes.
Speaker 12: And if you want to hang out at Music Hall
Speaker 12: this weekend and see hocus Pocus with the Systiddy Pops,
Speaker 12: you can also do that on this Saturday and Sunday,
Speaker 12: seven thirty on Saturday, two o'clock on Sunday and the
Speaker 12: screen hocus Pocus and listen to the Pops.
Speaker 1: That's really cool to do this for an hour. But Marana,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming in today. We'll want to go and
Speaker 1: get the tours.
Speaker 10: I just go to American Legacy Tours dot com and
Speaker 10: we have fourteen different tours. We have History Tours running
Speaker 10: throughout the underground, Gangster Baseball Tours, and then right now
Speaker 10: we have six different hornted tours. So whenever you want
Speaker 10: to come.
Speaker 1: Gangster Tour or Gangster Tour, it's very important.
Speaker 10: It depends on how I'm feeling that I love it.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, all right, su two chains over anyway Atli Martin.
Speaker 1: Thanks for popping in at the local loop of course
Speaker 1: at Alan Art Nate and every morning every Friday morning.
Speaker 1: It's the local loop of Ali Martin and we'll have
Speaker 1: a great Halloween, hopefully get some candy. Slowey seven hundred
Speaker 1: ww Cincinnati,