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Speaker 1: Mother. There's too many of you, Frid. Brother, Brother, there's.

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Speaker 2: Far too many of you.

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Speaker 3: Dad.

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Speaker 4: I think anyone who puckers up their lips and presses

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Speaker 4: it against their bosses buttocks and then smooshes it's an

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Speaker 4: ask kiss.

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Speaker 2: I seem to think and everything except my work. I'm

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Speaker 2: good at my work.

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Speaker 4: I confine myself to that.

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Speaker 2: All I want out of life is thirty share and

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Speaker 2: a twenty.

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Speaker 5: Grating Demand's enlarged my mind. Uh, he's a poet warrior

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Speaker 5: and in the classic sense, I'm a little man. I'm

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Speaker 5: a little man. He's he's a great man.

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Speaker 3: Think of it as colors. There's black and there's white,

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Speaker 3: and in between it's mostly gray.

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Speaker 1: That's us.

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Speaker 3: Now. Gray is a tough color because it's not as

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Speaker 3: simple as black and white, and for the media certainly

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Speaker 3: not as interesting. But it's who we are.

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Speaker 6: Jesus, what could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Leader Fan Fan Radio Network and k fa N dot Com.

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Speaker 6: Two minutes seventeen seconds past three Central Standard Time. It

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Speaker 6: is a Tuesday edition of the highly controversial, occasionally combustible

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Speaker 6: Bumper to Bumper program Never Disposable. Though we might be controversial,

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Speaker 6: it might be combustible, but we can't possibly be deemed disposable.

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Speaker 6: And I know there's some people who disagree with that.

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Speaker 6: I hear from the meaching every day, but they don't

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Speaker 6: know what they're talking about. And wrong, as Mace would say,

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Speaker 6: Theace would say, they're wrong. That's that's exactly. Do we

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Speaker 6: have that as a drop? We need that at your drop.

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Speaker 6: That is a great drop. It goes well beyond him.

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Speaker 6: Don't you think you're wrong? Yeah, I mean it's perfect.

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Speaker 6: So we'll work on that sometime in the near future.

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Speaker 6: I sorry, he'll say it tomorrow, some time between four

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Speaker 6: and five. I'll force it out of him if I

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Speaker 6: have to. I mean, I'll make sure he says it.

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Speaker 6: Do I want him to, like say it on kro

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Speaker 6: then he get too.

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Speaker 2: Nervous about it and then not deliver it in the

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Speaker 2: way that you want it to be organic. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: the problem is if you force it, Well, here's what

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Speaker 2: I'll do. I'll get him go.

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Speaker 6: I'll say something that I know he'll find preposterous, so

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Speaker 6: it will seem as if he's doing it off the cuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to hammer me, you're wrong. It's a tricky thread

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Speaker 2: needle to thread though, because if you force it and

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Speaker 2: are too preposterous. Yes, the reaction you get from Mace

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Speaker 2: isn't you're wrong. The reaction is huh. He just kind

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Speaker 2: of goes, huh. That's true, and it's really preposterous. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't even know what to say. He and studio tomorrow

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Speaker 2: in Fargo, four to five tomorrow. I had breakfast with

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Speaker 2: him this morning. Oh yeah, what was that all about?

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Speaker 2: Just you're getting caught up, Dave Tampa, Dave, Oh your butt.

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Speaker 2: Your pal set it up for a while. So it

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Speaker 2: worked out before James. Where you met for breakfast? Or

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Speaker 2: we went to Maggie's in Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Spine, I've never been been there in years. I've

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Speaker 6: No, that's almost order to second meal. That means it

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Speaker 6: wasn't disastrous. Did you get a word at edgewise?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I got some talking man, okay, But you knew

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Speaker 2: That's I think one of my strengths is I know

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Speaker 2: It was good, Mace. It was already Mace's second appointment

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Speaker 6: It was crazy at four thirty he could do. I mean,

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Speaker 6: like you know, like host, he's available drivetime morning show,

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Speaker 2: He wouldn't expect to do it for free. Obviously. We also,

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Speaker 6: So we would have to like, if we ever got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I should tell people what that is that they

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Speaker 6: Coach Alvarez, as he was at the time, did not

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Speaker 6: We don't do a podcast. This isn't a podcast. In

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Speaker 6: the immortal words of Frank Isola, everybody does a podcast.

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Speaker 6: We do a radio show, and not everybody can do

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Speaker 6: Everybody's got a podcast, not everybody has a radio show.

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Speaker 6: You put together twenty seven minutes or even like thirty

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Speaker 6: Rube Paul says, I'm confused. I thought you were doing

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Speaker 6: But the fact is you could be listening. How many

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Speaker 6: But I didn't mean to confuse Rube Paul. We'll give

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Speaker 6: you the Bort and Volvo guest line up. In just

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Speaker 6: just a couple of minutes. I asked at the top

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Speaker 6: He wrote this, I don't know if this landed on

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Speaker 6: want three extra years of eligibility, fine, sue us and win.

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Speaker 6: We don't trust our lawyers enough or we just don't

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Speaker 2: Sue us and win.

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Speaker 6: As you said, including you played seven years at junior

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Speaker 6: Actually double that and say you can stay in regular

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Speaker 6: I think it is, yes, right literally before Thanksgiving? And

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Speaker 6: We don't think there's any reason that we should stop you.

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Speaker 6: the last several weeks should be enough of a cautionary tale.

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Speaker 6: But here's the scenario he lays out that could lead

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Speaker 6: Your valuable left tackle decides to bet on his favorite

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Speaker 6: already down eleven grand a ten thousand dollars bet and

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Speaker 6: We're even. That's very plausible scenario, is it not? I

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Speaker 6: Seaffert to talk Purple at four fifteen, and as I mentioned,

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Speaker 6: Luigi on Hockey at five thirty. Very pleased to be

434
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Speaker 6: joined in studio, as I mentioned before the break, by

435
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 6: Bobby Z and by Morris Hayes, two individuals very much

436
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 6: in the I guess you could say the Prince musical history,

437
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 6: and we're going to talk about their involvement with him

438
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 6: and with the new musical, which the big media premiere

439
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Speaker 6: is I believe tomorrow night. Welcome, gentlemen, thanks for coming

440
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 6: in to see me. We appreciate it.

441
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us. Man.

442
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 6: So tell me a little bit, well, each of you,

443
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 6: just tell me a little bit how you got involved,

444
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 6: what your involvement is with this particular project, and how

445
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 6: you how it kind of evolved.

446
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: Bobby, you want to start.

447
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I met the producer six years ago. He came

448
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 7: here and gave him a tour of Minneapolis. The Prince

449
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 7: sits Loring Park and you know north Side where he

450
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 7: grew up, and you.

451
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 6: Go to laked you go to Mantaka. Did you did

452
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 6: you did he get purified in Lake Manattan?

453
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 7: I did show him like Manintan. Okay, good, you got

454
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 7: to It's definitely on the list right and from there, Mike,

455
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 7: you know, immediately was how you're going to do this

456
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 7: and pull it off? But slowly unraveling, and then Morris

457
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 7: became involved. The estate brought us in and we were

458
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 7: involved in helping shape the music. But one of our

459
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 7: trips to New York we saw the Michael Jackson play

460
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 7: MJ and the musical director was Jason Michael Webb, and

461
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 7: we were our songs were blown off by this guy,

462
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 7: and he's a student of Prince's music. So our role

463
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 7: has been to kind of shape the music in the

464
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 7: musical and make sure that it's on a level that

465
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Speaker 7: that we believe Prince would like. I mean, of course

466
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 7: we don't know. Yeah, like a lot of pressure, but

467
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 7: we're feeling you know, yeah, we're.

468
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: Feeling pretty good.

469
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, more tell me a little bout how you

470
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 6: got your ear involvement in this. And also, I think

471
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Speaker 6: one of the key emphasis points here is this is

472
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Speaker 6: not supposed to be a Prince biography.

473
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: Correct. This is Purple Rain come to the stage.

474
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 4: Correct, right, That's exactly right. This is from the kids perspective,

475
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: from like the film in Purple Rainbright, like the Jersey Kid.

476
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: I kind of came on from my I was contacted

477
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 4: by Londell McMillan, who handles the Prince Legacy group, and

478
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: you know, they told me about what they were planning

479
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: on doing with this musical, and basically, you know, even

480
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: not being a person within the revolution, in that I'd

481
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 4: worked with Prince for close to twenty years just as

482
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: a keyboard player and as a music director. And so

483
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: I think what they what they wanted to do was

484
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 4: just bring the bear on the situation. Everybody, you know,

485
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: Bobby dates back to Prince before the fame and before

486
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 4: all of that, they were friends and and I just

487
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: had a lot of time in the band, and so

488
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: I think what they wanted to tap in on was

489
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: like all of the combined thirty five years of me

490
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: and Bobby, you know, what we know about Prince and

491
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: what we know about the way he did his music,

492
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 4: just to bring to bear on this particular program.

493
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: Some authenticity, yes, because of the time, all the credibility

494
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: you guys represent.

495
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think that's what that was about. And so,

496
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's been interesting just seeing how they work,

497
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: extraordinarily hard working folks. They are sparing no expense, no

498
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: details as far as how deep they're getting into this

499
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: and how much they're trying to make sure that it.

500
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Speaker 6: So this is so, what's the give me a refresher

501
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 6: course on the process here going from here to New York.

502
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 6: How much can it change, how much much experimentation is involved,

503
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 6: and the sort of the time frame about that process

504
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 6: to go from here to there.

505
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I mean in many ways, I'm sure

506
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 7: you know, we can. Your fans will understand. This is

507
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 7: like preseason football. This is for them. They picked me Minneapolis,

508
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 7: which I was quite nervous about. Actually, they're grabbing the

509
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 7: bull by the horns and they're coming here and they're

510
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 7: they're doing it. You know where Lake Manatanka is and

511
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 7: they're they're they're pushing the boundary of of of creativity

512
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 7: here and what that means is they're making changes daily.

513
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 7: Now right now they're locked because it officially opens tomorrow

514
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 7: for the public and the media. But then they'll leave

515
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 7: here on the twenty third, they'll make changes in New York.

516
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 7: They have three more weeks of previewsky and then there's

517
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 7: the o t the official opening night on Broadway, which

518
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 7: could be April. I think the game is to qualify

519
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 7: for the Tony's in June, so I think in at

520
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 7: some point April they would want this to open on

521
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 7: the Great White Way.

522
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Speaker 6: Naturally, so tell me, you know, when we are we

523
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 6: do we have knowledge about how much conversation Prince himself

524
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: had on the possibility at some point of the motion

525
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 6: picture being you know, ended ending up on the stage.

526
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 6: Was that something important to him? Is that something he

527
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 6: dabbled with, experimented with or not so much.

528
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: Well, I mean personally, what I know is what he

529
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: said to me with regard to you know, we used

530
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: to go to the West End in London. We went,

531
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: I went to several musicals with Prince, and he always

532
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: wanted to do something in the medium of at least

533
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: being on Broadway and doing that you talked about. He

534
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: wanted to do an opera. So he wanted to dabble

535
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: in all of these areas. Uh, he didn't speak to

536
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: me specifically about Purple Rain, but but I do know

537
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: that he loved Broadway, he loved you know, the medium,

538
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: and so that was something that he talks about doing.

539
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: And so I'm personally glad to see that that this

540
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: this great film. I mean, this is an iconic film,

541
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: It's an iconic story, and I'm personally glad to see

542
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: you know, being brought to life. I mean, and you know,

543
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: I've gotten to be like super close with Bobby, and

544
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: I just sit there when we watch this thing and

545
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: I just nudge my going like, man, that's you man,

546
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm so proud that they have their

547
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: chance to have this, you know, be live like on

548
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: on Badway.

549
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: Man.

550
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: I think it's amazing. I think the story is amazing,

551
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: and I think the whole opportunity.

552
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: Is Bobby, why did the film hit? Why did it

553
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 6: connect so viscerally with so many people?

554
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: You know, I mean the music.

555
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 7: I mean, there's just no doubt that the Prince and

556
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 7: music is you know, synonymous with each other. And I

557
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 7: think when Let's Go Crazy hits that opening scene and

558
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 7: the way it's cut and everything, and it sucks you in,

559
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 7: and Computer Blue and Beautiful Ones and eventually Purple Rain,

560
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: which is the down tempo payoff to a movie, which

561
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 7: is you know, really extraordinary that it's that it's this climax,

562
00:30:54,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 7: is this song that's become much larger than life. It's

563
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 7: kind of spirituality to that song that kind of when

564
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 7: you hear it, it stirs your soul. It's played at

565
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 7: weddings and life cycles and it's just a beautiful thing.

566
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 7: You know. It's hard to say I think his vision

567
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 7: of that is acting in that, you know, Apolonia, the

568
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 7: Morris character, which they do carry forward. I mean, there's

569
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 7: an amazing trio here of Chris Collins playing the kid.

570
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 7: Rachel Webb is Apollonia and the Morris is nailed by

571
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 7: this guy, and so that carries forward and the music

572
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 7: carries forward. So the roots of this successful movie or

573
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 7: movie that connected for some reason, as you're saying, is

574
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: all here, and I think it'll connect with the new generation.

575
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: That's the hope, right, Morris, refresh my memory if you

576
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 6: can look back on it. When the first time you

577
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: remember meeting Prince and what the circumstances were, was it

578
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: something long in the making, was it spur of the moment,

579
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 6: was it an accident? And what your your first impressions

580
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 6: of him were.

581
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: Well, I mean the first impression thing is when I

582
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: lived in Chicago, man, when Purple Rain came out, Well,

583
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 4: you know, I stood in line all day on in

584
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: front of the State Theater, movie theater there and stood

585
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: out all day and until people got anty and almost

586
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: were fighting, and the cops almost threw you know, it

587
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: made everybody leave. But just to be a part of

588
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: the Frenzy that was Purple Rain. You know, it was

589
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: like this big thing, and I mean it was a

590
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: thing for people to stand in line every day to

591
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: get into the movie. And you know, try to this

592
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: before the internet. There was no online ticket buying. You

593
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: had to go stand in line, man, and they just

594
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: sit out there all day and to see I've never

595
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: seen a movie like that where everybody practically in the

596
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: movie where themselves. I've never seen like Bobby Z is

597
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: Bobby Z, you know, And so this was an insight

598
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: to like who these people were. All my band friends.

599
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: I went up with a bunch of band guys from

600
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: my church and and we were like, man, that was crazy,

601
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: Like it was so great of a movie.

602
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

603
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: We went repeated times, you know, because it was just

604
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: like you couldn't take it all in at one showing it.

605
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: You just had to come back. And then when I

606
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: got invited to Minnesota to be in a Brown Marks

607
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: group Maserati, Uh, and then just kind of came in

608
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: uh from a great friend and mentor, Craig Rice, and

609
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: just gave me an opportunity to work at the studio

610
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: just driving the van just like picking up talent for

611
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: what it was shooting Graffiti Bridge and they let me

612
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: play on a song. And I was shooting a video

613
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: with Brown on his album and Prince was just you know,

614
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: kind of looking around. We shout it at Paisley Park

615
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: and I was there playing in the video and he

616
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: asked Craig about like this this keyboard player.

617
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Guys.

618
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: You know, Oh he's great, he's a real player. You

619
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: could play because you don't necessarily have to play in

620
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: a video to be you know. It just looked good,

621
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: and so Levi Seester threw me a bone. I got

622
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: a chance to play in the studio on a track

623
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: that The Time was doing on the album, and Prince

624
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: heard it, and Alan Les heard it, and uh, you know,

625
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: and he gave me a kudos for that, and I

626
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: think at that point he realized, Okay, this guy is

627
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: he's a real deal. He can play, so he can

628
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 4: hang out, you know, because otherwise you see me and

629
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: never say anything, you know. And I think that was

630
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: the thing that gave me a shot, is what I

631
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 4: played on the Times record on the on the album

632
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: and and then I was in, you know, but it

633
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 4: took a long way around, and I think the first

634
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: time I kind of ran into him. We were at

635
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 4: at the Fine Line and uh we we just we

636
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: were just up from Texas. Man, were wont to do

637
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: some demos with market. We were to find like.

638
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: We were like, hey, man, it's Princes.

639
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 4: He just came in the building. Let's go say hello,

640
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: not knowing like you don't just go up and say hell, right,

641
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: And we quickly found out what Hockey and Gilbert that

642
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: you don't just walk up and say hello. There's a

643
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: big steel arm that went up over the three of

644
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: us had knocked us almost to the ground, and we like,

645
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: so it was it was that kind of was he

646
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: intimidating it. We knew that as a band, that's what

647
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: we wanted to be. Was like the Revolution, that's what

648
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: we wanted to be. And I told Prince that I

649
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: when I got in we were just talking one day

650
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: and I said, you you guys and Michael Jackson is

651
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: who we wanted to beat And I said, we didn't.

652
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: We didn't care about beating the local band around. We

653
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: wanted to whoop you guys. And we knew that that

654
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: was the fight that, you know, that we wanted to

655
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: have with because you guys were the best, And he

656
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: thought that was you know that's how he looked at things.

657
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 4: He just like he always wanted to be the best,

658
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: and so we kind of connected on that ideology of

659
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: just like we just wanted to be at the top

660
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: level of things, man. And so it was good to

661
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: just talk to them and just you know, let him

662
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: know how we thought about it, and come to find

663
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 4: out that's the way he kind of structured his thing

664
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: and how these guys operated.

665
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Bobby, what would you what's what did he I'm sure

666
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: you've been asked this before, but I'll ask nevertheless, what

667
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: do you believe is the greatest misconception about Princess? Someone

668
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: who knew him obviously very well.

669
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 7: I mean his sense of humor. I mean he was

670
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 7: such a jokester. Oh he loved praying, and you never know,

671
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 7: at the most tense moment of all he would crack

672
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 7: a joke or say something funny. And making him laugh

673
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 7: was was a real goal, was a real treat to

674
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 7: get a belly laugh.

675
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: Hard to do, you know, to get him to laugh.

676
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 7: You know, you just like music. You gave your you

677
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 7: know that you gave your idea forward, you know, and

678
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 7: if you hit a bullseye, you hit a bullseye. If

679
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 7: it fell flat, you knew that too. But when when

680
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 7: we were younger, you.

681
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Did not have a poker face on that.

682
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: Eh.

683
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Either way, you knew.

684
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 7: Oh instantly, Especially music, if you're trying an idea. I mean,

685
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 7: if you liked it, you'd get that face right, and

686
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 7: if you didn't like it, you knew with a tenth

687
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 7: of a second that you should never play that again,

688
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 7: you know.

689
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: You know the funny thing about it is, I think

690
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: that was the reason for my longevity. I was there

691
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: close to twenty years and one of things Prince used

692
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: to tell me. I used to have a man on

693
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: his desk right crying uh, and he tell me, is

694
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: it more? Is you only like three jokes away from

695
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: your own He's like, he said, three jokes and you

696
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: got your own show, you know. And he would always

697
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: introduce me to all of the comedians. The Prince loved

698
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 4: calm and love funny, so you know, Bernie Mack would

699
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: be there, Dave Chappelle would be at the studio, all

700
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: of these guys, and you're always introduced. That's my keyboard

701
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: plays really funny. I'm like, Prince, stop telling these guys.

702
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: They're pros man like, don't tell Bernie Mack, I'm a comedian,

703
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: come in and I'm like, no, no, sir, no, I'm

704
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 4: not a you know. But I think that was one

705
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: of the things that endeared me to Prince most, that

706
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: I was a joker like that, and he liked to

707
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: be funny. And that's the thing I think I missed

708
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: the most about him, just him laughing like that. You know,

709
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: what do you miss the most bout him?

710
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 7: Uh? You know, it's it's funny because he's such a

711
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 7: compass from such a young age. That and even when

712
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 7: I wasn't in the band, you know, decades later, you

713
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 7: still I still want to know where he was, you know,

714
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 7: because you just have to know if you're going to

715
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 7: run into him downtown or you're gonna you just I

716
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 7: always kept tabs on him wherever he was. The presence,

717
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 7: you know, he's just he was such a huge presence

718
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 7: in the world that it radiated in such pride about

719
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 7: Minnesota and Minneapolis and being a hometown in Paisley Park

720
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 7: and all this. He held court. And now there's no

721
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 7: successor to the King, you know, there's definitely just this

722
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 7: void in music and in spirit and for all of us.

723
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 7: I mean, we're here talking about him today, and it's

724
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 7: because we all knew that this was like Da Vinci

725
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 7: or something. This was not just a normal artist creator.

726
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 7: This was something that was once in a lifetime for

727
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 7: all of us to witness, and we all got to

728
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 7: see it. And I kind of missed that spectacle, if

729
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 7: you know what I mean.

730
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: You know we had I don't know. I think it

731
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: was actually super Bowl week when the super Bowl was here.

732
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: Out of nowhere, you know, the the a lot of

733
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: the members, a lot of the show. Radio shows were

734
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: set up up at Mall of America. Basically they create

735
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: sort of like a radio row kind of a thing,

736
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: and so you'd have guests almost like a car wash

737
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: they go through, they go from one show to another,

738
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: and generally it's athletes, or it's former coaches, or it's

739
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: former players. And then we had a lot of good guests.

740
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 2: But then out of nowhere, on that occasion, Guardie comes

741
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: up to me and says, Hey, she ly is available

742
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: and no one's talking to her. You want to have her?

743
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: Honest said, yeah, what are you talking about?

744
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: Of course, and we ended up having probably the best

745
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: conversation we had all super Bowl. We had nothing to

746
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 6: do with football, but it was because of how well

747
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 6: she knew prints and the relationship and also talking about

748
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 6: the musical contributions, et cetera. And one of the things

749
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 6: that has stuck with me ever since I had that

750
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 6: conversation was the emotion in her voice when she talked

751
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 6: about one of the key items regarding friends, inability to

752
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 6: try to help him, to get him through who whatever

753
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 6: he was dealing with in terms of pain, so that

754
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 6: he didn't turn to what he inevitably turned to. That

755
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 6: it would always it was always gonna be one of

756
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: the great regrets of her life because you think, if

757
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: I only could have reached him, if I knew a

758
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 6: little more, I could have connected, I could have been there.

759
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 6: We all know it's not always that simple, But how

760
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 6: do you guys feel about that part of it? And

761
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 6: it's not the whole story, but it's part of the story,

762
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: this sense of that in the end, there wasn't anybody

763
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 6: who could help him, try to get him through that

764
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: particular episode.

765
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 7: He was the most private individual I've ever met. You

766
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 7: just never even when he was not famous, it was

767
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 7: just he lived his life. You had interaction with him

768
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 7: sometimes twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,

769
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 7: you know, but he still had his private life and

770
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 7: I noticed it immediately and it carried on forever. And

771
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 7: there's just the regret part is kind of impossible to

772
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 7: have because he had such a private sign that you

773
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 7: just have to respect that and just say, you know,

774
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 7: he's whatever he was suffered, he suffered alone, and.

775
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: He's got to want it another way.

776
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 6: That's sort of what she has said too, is at

777
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 6: some point you can't as as sad as it is,

778
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 6: if you can't break through there, if he doesn't want

779
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 6: you to break through there, that's sort of that defined him, correct.

780
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: Especially if it's Prince. I mean, you know, Prince danced

781
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 4: to his own music. In terms of like he did

782
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 4: what he wanted to do. It's very difficult to just

783
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: like try to steer him. Of course, I think any

784
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: of us who were close to him, you know, I

785
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: know I certainly did it. I you know, sometimes I

786
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: had to tell Limperor didn't have any clothes every now

787
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: and again, you.

788
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: Know, just just as a friend. How hard is that?

789
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: It was very difficult? I mean, And my thing is,

790
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: you know, some days when when I did it, I said,

791
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: maybe going home today, you know, but I feel like

792
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: something happens to him, I'm going home anyway. So so

793
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: I would say things that, like I knew would be tough,

794
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: and I had to think about, like, because I like

795
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 4: my little job. I thought it was like, man, I'm

796
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: just on MTV every day and I'm doing this. I

797
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 4: don't want to rock the boat. But if he's your friend,

798
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: you have to say something, you know, And so you know,

799
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: I would do that where I could. And I think ultimately,

800
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: you know, he's such a strong personality. You know what

801
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: he's going to do at the end of the day,

802
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: what he wants to do. But I don't think there's

803
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: any person that is alive that was close to Prince

804
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: did not think it, like what could I have done

805
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: to offset what happened? What could have said? You know,

806
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: I don't think any person that's close to him didn't

807
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: think that same.

808
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: Thought very well said.

809
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 6: That is the voice of Morris Hayes, member of a

810
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 6: Prince's New Power Generation band, worked as musical director for

811
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 6: Prince for a long time. He's worked with a lot

812
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 6: of unbelievable names in music, and Bobby Z, of course,

813
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: earlier worked in with with Prince as well, a name

814
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 6: that no probably needs no further introduction, especially locally, Bobby

815
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 6: you mentioned, I mean you obviously go way way back.

816
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 6: What what were your life what was your early interaction

817
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 6: and what were your early impressions of him going I'm

818
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 6: talking about way back at the beginning.

819
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 7: We were just talking about it on the way over

820
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 7: here that in the beginning it was just you're looking

821
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 7: for people to play with. And then I just stumbled

822
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 7: across him at Moon Sound Studios, Chris Moon, who discovered

823
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 7: him basically, and I stumbled in on a session and

824
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 7: I heard him harmonize with himself, play with you know,

825
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 7: play the instruments, multiple, multiple instruments, and you're just kind

826
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 7: of like, this is different, what's going on here?

827
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: You know?

828
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 7: And then the more I got into it, the more

829
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 7: I realized there was a flawlessness going on, you know,

830
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 7: musically now, personality wise and exterior wise. I mean, he

831
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 7: definitely wasn't a star yet, but the music was just

832
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 7: like undeniable to me, and it was it made me

833
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 7: overlook everything else. This guy's going to be a star,

834
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 7: you know, there's.

835
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 2: Just no so you could recognize it quick well.

836
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 7: When you're that, you're also like, if he's not a star,

837
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 7: you're right, what wagon am I going to attach myself to?

838
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 7: If this guy can't make it, what else am I

839
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 7: going to do?

840
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: You know?

841
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 7: And so I put all my eggs in one basket

842
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 7: and basically, you know, followed him wherever he took me

843
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 7: on a journey. Very grateful that he you know, like

844
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: morisaid too, you know, you're just happy to be there.

845
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: But at the same time, I was so grateful to

846
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 7: be on this journey. He saved me from a normal life,

847
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 7: is what happened. And I'm forever gratefully took me on

848
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 7: that journey.

849
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 6: That's a great way to put it. What's the highest

850
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 6: high the lowest low in your relationship with him?

851
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 7: The highest high is probably the premiere of Purple Rain

852
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 7: at the man Chinese Theater. I mean, it was just

853
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 7: unbelievable to experience that growing up as a child in

854
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 7: your parents' cucular watch, seeing the hands of Cement and

855
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 7: all that stuff, and then all of a sudden you're

856
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 7: there and it's a movie you're in and it was

857
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 7: just sitting next to him and he's hitting me in

858
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 7: the ribs, you know when you're on screen. I mean,

859
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 7: it felt like a Super Bowl victory. It definitely was

860
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 7: an achievement when there were so many doubters, you know,

861
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 7: so that and and the lowest of the low. I

862
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 7: mean it could be the Rolling Stones thing, you know

863
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 7: when when your boot off the stage. It was such viciousness.

864
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 7: It's beyond music at that point. It became a personal

865
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 7: attack on so many levels, you know. I mean, Mickjag,

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Speaker 7: I got to meet Mick Jagger and Charlie Watson. They

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Speaker 7: throw stuff at us too, but not aiming, you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, so maybe it was definitely.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this.

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Speaker 6: Let's get we got one more short segment after a break,

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Speaker 6: and we handle that outstanding. We got a little more

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Speaker 6: to talk about here we were you. We'll get back

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Speaker 6: to a football conversation with Kevin Seffert about four fifteen.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I believe even for the premiere tomorrow

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Speaker 6: there now the tickets have been put up for sale,

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Speaker 6: Am I right?

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Speaker 2: Did I read that properly? That's what I thought.

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Speaker 6: What's the proper place to go to Hennepen, Hennepin Art,

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Speaker 6: hennepinarts dot org for details and information regarding tickets. So

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Speaker 6: a couple more minutes with Bobby Z and Morris Hayes

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Speaker 6: on the new Purple Rain musical that will be debuting tomorrow,

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Speaker 6: and as I mentioned also Louis will join to Talk Hockey,

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Speaker 6: probably about five thirty or so.

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Speaker 2: States