Speaker 1: By Billy cunning in the Great America.
Speaker 2: Welcome this Monday, after doing the Tri State bridget as
Speaker 2: it is, by Wednesday is going to be rain and
Speaker 2: about forty five or fifty degrees get through tonight tomorrow
Speaker 2: thing's going to be okay and things going to be
Speaker 2: better except maybe on the field on the gridiron, except
Speaker 2: here and there and everywhere. Mo Hagar, welcome again to
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And so Mo like you.
Speaker 2: I think you, Tony Pike, and el Mo and Lance
Speaker 2: cover the Bengals better than the national ESPN Fox Sports crew,
Speaker 2: would you agree or not?
Speaker 3: I think we opine on the Bengals with a better
Speaker 3: perspective than they do around the country.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Now, when I monitor those events this morning, as I
Speaker 2: do all the time, I have about seven TV sets
Speaker 2: in my home. I monitor them all. I have all
Speaker 2: the websites looking up, looking here. I'm being told by
Speaker 2: the experts that the death knell of Joe Burrow's career
Speaker 2: happened began in Buffalo, in which they were what ten
Speaker 2: points up with about nine minutes to go, and then
Speaker 2: lost easily because of Joe Burrow's interception for Tea for
Speaker 2: a pick six and then the next one, and then
Speaker 2: what happened yesterday, according to the experts, confirmed at all
Speaker 2: that somehow Joe Burrow is done, He's been fully bengalized,
Speaker 2: and Zach Shule has no idea what he's doing. And
Speaker 2: the Bengals is the worst sports organization in the world.
Speaker 2: I guess there's some soccer team in Holland that may
Speaker 2: be worse than the Bengals, but the experts say none
Speaker 2: of that is true. I'm going to ask you some
Speaker 2: big questions later on MO about the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go before I get to the big questions, because
Speaker 2: they're big questions. They're going to set you back in
Speaker 2: your chair. Tell me what the hell happened yesterday at
Speaker 2: Pey Course Stadium with Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
Speaker 1: The Ravens came to play.
Speaker 2: At the end, I'm listening to Ravens players say we
Speaker 2: just beat the s out of them and another player
Speaker 2: for shout and they didn't want to play us.
Speaker 1: They don't want to play us.
Speaker 2: So tell the American people, the long suffering Bengals fans
Speaker 2: who pay a quarter of a billion dollars in new
Speaker 2: money to the Bengals whether the Bengals are in free
Speaker 2: fall or it is just simply a mistake that will
Speaker 2: get better maybe next week playing in Miami, give me
Speaker 2: a live update.
Speaker 3: Let's talk. Let's talk about yesterday. Yesterday, Please do talk
Speaker 3: about it. I've heard people say the Bengals quit yesterday.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's accurate, because in order to quit something,
Speaker 3: you have to have started. From the opening kickoff. That
Speaker 3: team looked like it didn't want to be there. That
Speaker 3: team looked like whether it was because of the cold,
Speaker 3: the opponent, the lack of high end stakes, other stuff
Speaker 3: swirling around the team, whatever it is, that team yesterday,
Speaker 3: from the quarterback down looked completely checked out. In the
Speaker 3: second half, I saw Joe Burrow go out of bounds
Speaker 3: on a third down play instead of trying for the
Speaker 3: first down. Now you might say, well, he wouldn't have
Speaker 3: gotten it. Don't want Joe to play hero ball. The
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow that I know and love, the Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: who has given me a ton of highs as a
Speaker 3: fan of this foot team, decided we're gonna punt the
Speaker 3: football away instead of me trying to make a play.
Speaker 3: In the second half of that game, Willie Bengals at
Speaker 3: one point yesterday ran twenty seven consecutive offensive plays, twenty
Speaker 3: seven consecutive offensive plays the Ravens. The Ravens didn't take
Speaker 3: their first offensive snap in the fourth quarter until there
Speaker 3: were two minutes and three seconds remaining. Now, there was
Speaker 3: a pick six in the middle of all that. But
Speaker 3: what did you see when you watch those twenty seven
Speaker 3: plays unfold? You saw a team checked out. You saw
Speaker 3: a team that gave up. You saw a team that
Speaker 3: played with no urgency. You saw a team that was
Speaker 3: not remotely interested in a last gasp effort to not
Speaker 3: only win the game but save their season. They were huddling,
Speaker 3: they were taking all sorts of time between plays. They
Speaker 3: were dinking and dunking the ball down the field, they
Speaker 3: were calling running plays. They were waving the white flag.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow was the quarterback of an offense yesterday that
Speaker 3: waved the white flag. That to me, the big takeaway
Speaker 3: from yesterday is that that team yesterday, and I don't
Speaker 3: know how you could say otherwise, that looked and felt
Speaker 3: like a team that didn't want to be there in
Speaker 3: a game that they absolutely had to win to even
Speaker 3: maintain a shred of hope.
Speaker 1: To make the postseason.
Speaker 3: What that says about Joe Burrow, What that says about
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, What that says about the overall state of
Speaker 3: the organization, whatever it says, None of it's any good.
Speaker 1: Who had a worst day?
Speaker 2: The Bengals on the field are the Bengals management.
Speaker 1: Off the field?
Speaker 2: I got other questions coming, though, but I'm thinking long
Speaker 2: suffering Bengals fans paying tens of thousands of dollars to
Speaker 2: sit on several bags of home city ice for hours
Speaker 2: to watch that boose egg?
Speaker 1: Who did Who did the worst job? The Bengals on
Speaker 1: the field are the Bengals off the field?
Speaker 3: Well, you might argue you both did the bare minimum.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the seats yesterday at the stadium. You know,
Speaker 3: as a season ticket holder, I did not go yesterday.
Speaker 3: The weather had nothing to do with it. The team
Speaker 3: performance had nothing to do with it. My daughter had
Speaker 3: a basketball game. I chose to watch her play instead
Speaker 3: of go to the Bengals game. But I love going
Speaker 3: to Bengals games. The Bengals, I think yesterday did the
Speaker 3: minimum that the NFL expects teams to do in their snow.
Speaker 3: I think they satisfied their baseline requirement when it comes
Speaker 3: to snow removal and handling of the snow. But you
Speaker 3: have a choice. You have a choice if you run
Speaker 3: a business, you have a choice. If you work at
Speaker 3: a business, you have a choice sometimes with your circle
Speaker 3: of family and friends, to do the bare minimum or
Speaker 3: go above and beyond. The Bengals had a choice yesterday
Speaker 3: to do what was required or go above and beyond
Speaker 3: to make your guests feel welcome and comfortable. Guests that
Speaker 3: paid good money and sat through arctic temperatures to watch
Speaker 3: what has been this season for the most part, and
Speaker 3: inferior product.
Speaker 1: They had a choice.
Speaker 3: They could choose to do the bare minimum, and I
Speaker 3: think they did, or they could choose to go above
Speaker 3: and beyond to make their guests as comfortable as possible
Speaker 3: in very uncomfortable circumstances.
Speaker 2: So if someone's heading to their seats, they got six
Speaker 2: inches of ice and snow. The Bengals email last night
Speaker 2: said they could have called an usher and just shoot
Speaker 2: away the ice and just pull it off. Where do
Speaker 2: you put the ice? The seat in front of you,
Speaker 2: the seat to your left, your right. The Bengals fans
Speaker 2: had no option but to sit there acting like they
Speaker 2: were in an igloo somewhere north of Nantucket. Can you
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: Mo?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I do again, what they did probably satisfies the NFL's
Speaker 3: requirement as it relates to hndling snow. I think if
Speaker 3: you run a business, if you have guests, if you
Speaker 3: have customers, you can do everything you can to ensure
Speaker 3: their comfort, or you can't, and the Bengals chose not to.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I will also say this, I think had the Bengals
Speaker 3: taken the field yesterday with a record of ten and
Speaker 3: three instead of four and nine, nobody would be talking
Speaker 3: about snow. But in Philadelphia yesterday the Eagles played a game.
Speaker 3: There was lots of snow in the seats, and I
Speaker 3: saw pictures of the seats for the most part having
Speaker 3: been that didn't happen yesterday at the venue originally known
Speaker 3: as Paul Brown Stadium. And again, if you want to say, well,
Speaker 3: you know, they did what they were supposed to do,
Speaker 3: that's fine, And maybe you don't think they deserve criticism
Speaker 3: for not going above and beyond. If it's me, I
Speaker 3: want my guests, my customers who have paid me very
Speaker 3: very very hard earned money to sit in the cold.
Speaker 1: I would go out of my way.
Speaker 3: I would ensure that my organization went out of its
Speaker 3: way to ensure that our guests were as comfortable as possible.
Speaker 3: And for me, that would have would have involved having
Speaker 3: my customers not wipe the snow off their seats. But again,
Speaker 3: I do think this, if the Bengals were ten and three,
Speaker 3: nobody would care. Now, So there's that. Then there is
Speaker 3: the performance on the field. The performance on the field yesterday,
Speaker 3: I think you were being fair if you thought, you
Speaker 3: know what, this is going to be a desperate team,
Speaker 3: a team that is heating the call of its quarterback
Speaker 3: who is clearly not happy and clearly not having a
Speaker 3: whole lot of fun right now. It's a team that
Speaker 3: has faint playoff hopes, but still playoff hopes. And now
Speaker 3: what if you beat the Baltimore Ravens, maybe the door
Speaker 3: cracks open just a little bit. They had just beaten
Speaker 3: this team seventeen days prior. They are playing at home,
Speaker 3: They do have Joe Burrow, They came into the game
Speaker 3: at least offensively, at least a little healthy. What I
Speaker 3: saw yesterday was not an urgent team. It was not
Speaker 3: a desperate team. It was a team that can't wait
Speaker 3: for the season to end. That doesn't reflect poorly on
Speaker 3: the coach, doesn't reflect it doesn't reflect well on the players,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't reflect well on really anybody. Haven't had
Speaker 3: anything to do with the organization. All right, mo I
Speaker 3: want to ask you a big question. Are you prepared?
Speaker 3: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Which entity or person is in the worst shape?
Speaker 4: We go?
Speaker 1: Number one?
Speaker 2: Maybe Miller time and maybe Zach Miller is not the best.
Speaker 2: Shall we say it is Wes Miller. He's related to
Speaker 2: Wes Miller and Wes Miller and East Miller. They're not
Speaker 2: the best. But Bearcout basketball team is not shall we say,
Speaker 2: in great shape? Would you agree Bearcout basket struggling? Yes,
Speaker 2: that's one. Number two is Zach Taylor, also known as
Speaker 2: Zach Shuler, who is calling the plays, responsible for game preparation.
Speaker 2: I'm responsible for the formation directly or indirectly with Duke
Speaker 2: Tobin for the players selected. Number three is Sharon Moore,
Speaker 2: the ex coach of Michigan who's looking at a hard
Speaker 2: time daddy, having asked the services of OnlyFans model during
Speaker 2: a halftime when I think during the High Stay game
Speaker 2: he had his mind somewhere else.
Speaker 1: So we have, on.
Speaker 2: One hand, we have Wes Miller, Bearcut Basketball, then we
Speaker 2: got Zach Shuler aka Zach Taylor. Then we have Sharon
Speaker 2: Moore and the Michigan situation. Where would you like to
Speaker 2: be in charge to handle Wes Miller, Zach Shuler or
Speaker 2: Sharon Moore situation?
Speaker 1: Where would you like to be in charge?
Speaker 3: I would not like to be in charge of the
Speaker 3: Sharon Moore situation because that involves criminal charges and lots
Speaker 3: of really icky.
Speaker 1: Stuff that have not so much much to do with football.
Speaker 3: Sharon Moore that that situation, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of sadness to that inechegable. His children and wife I
Speaker 3: don't think signed up for what he is dragging them through,
Speaker 3: and so I view that through a lens of sadness,
Speaker 3: because this is somebody who has abandoned the responsibility he
Speaker 3: had to his family and others, you know, And I
Speaker 3: feel for those players who play for him. I feel
Speaker 3: for players who have committed to play for the University
Speaker 3: of Michigan who are going to be the collateral damage
Speaker 3: in something that they're not at fault.
Speaker 1: For football, get the death penalty.
Speaker 3: No, Wes Miller is in a world of trouble right now.
Speaker 3: His team has lost four games. They have a very
Speaker 3: difficult game against Clemson on Sunday in South Carolina, and
Speaker 3: then they play in the Big Twelve. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if folks don't follow college basketball very closely, there
Speaker 3: are six or seven Big Twelve teams that have NBA
Speaker 3: dudes up and down their roster. I watched the Arizona
Speaker 3: Wildcats play on Saturday night. That is the best performance
Speaker 3: I've seen by any team this season. They ran Alabama
Speaker 3: off the floor in a game played in the state
Speaker 3: of Alabama. Bearcats play them on January the twenty first.
Speaker 3: I think even Wes would be the first to tell
Speaker 3: you year five, the expectation was make the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately, it is really hard to envision Cincinnati on
Speaker 3: Selection Sunday having a chance to have its name called.
Speaker 3: And if it's not, I think Wes would tell you
Speaker 3: that the expectation for most is that there's going to
Speaker 3: be a coaching change. I think was Zach Taylor the
Speaker 3: one thing And I've said this to you for six
Speaker 3: and a half years. I've never watched a Zach Taylor
Speaker 3: team and thought the players have quit or the players
Speaker 3: aren't prepared. Now he's had. You know, you might say
Speaker 3: play calling issues at times. That doesn't bother me so much.
Speaker 3: Maybe there have been personnel issues that he's not responsible for.
Speaker 3: That's okay. But at the end of the day, whether
Speaker 3: the Bengals have been good or whether they've been not good,
Speaker 3: when Zach Taylor has been the coach, I've always thought, boy,
Speaker 3: the team plays for him, the team plays hard. Effort's
Speaker 3: not an issue here. Preparation really isn't an issue here.
Speaker 3: Yesterday I saw a team that was not prepared. I
Speaker 3: saw a team that's effort was compromised. I saw a
Speaker 3: team that did not want to be there, and that
Speaker 3: reflects very poorly on the coach. I am more than
Speaker 3: willing and have for six and a half years, more
Speaker 3: than willing to give Zach Taylor credit for things then
Speaker 3: I don't think others do. I think getting Joe Flacco
Speaker 3: up to speed this year is a credit to Zach Taylor.
Speaker 1: They lost all the games, but you know they played hard.
Speaker 1: You know he got Joe Flack already.
Speaker 3: I think I think the Bengals winning playoff games when
Speaker 3: they had the game plan behind an awful offensive line
Speaker 3: to a large degree, reflects.
Speaker 1: Really good coaching.
Speaker 3: I think Zach Taylor getting Jake Browning ready to play
Speaker 3: and win two years ago but he had never played before.
Speaker 3: Credit to Zach Taylor. I think Zach Taylor getting Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow ready to play his first NFL game without a
Speaker 3: preseason with the COVID training camp. Credit to Zach Taylor.
Speaker 3: So I've never been one of these folks that just
Speaker 3: gratuitously wells away at Zach Taylor whenever anything goes wrong
Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Bengals. But against Pittsburgh a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: many accused players on the defensive quitting.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that was a one off.
Speaker 3: Yesterday I saw a team that didn't quit because it
Speaker 3: never started. It didn't want to be there. It looked
Speaker 3: checked out mentally and physically. That reflects very poorly on
Speaker 3: the head coach. And I think you're being completely reasonable
Speaker 3: if you wonder if that same look is going to
Speaker 3: be evident over these last three games, and if it is,
Speaker 3: then I think you have to very very very seriously
Speaker 3: wonder whether or not you can move forward with this
Speaker 3: head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, about a minute remaining mo we have to get
Speaker 2: back to the commercials. But your experts in ESPN said
Speaker 2: this morning, I don't know if this is Zach. You
Speaker 2: might know that Joe Burrow's contract is not guaranteed next year.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at that.
Speaker 2: I thought it was five years due seventy five million,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at this as a cap hit like
Speaker 2: sixty five million, and it says zero guaranteed for next year.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has signed a deal five years, two hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy five mil. Two hundred and nineteen million of
Speaker 3: it is guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Two ninety and let's call it two twenty two nineteen
Speaker 1: two hundred.
Speaker 3: So the overwhelming majority of that money is is guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow will be the quarterback of the Bengals next year.
Speaker 3: And I saw your tweet and I took you to
Speaker 3: test for this because Joe had his comments the other day, right,
Speaker 3: And so this is this is what bothers me about
Speaker 3: some of the reaction to Joe Burrow and what he said.
Speaker 3: And look, let's be honest. He said what he said,
Speaker 3: and then he played arguably his worst game ever. Didn't
Speaker 3: pick a very good Sunday to play his worst game. Ever,
Speaker 3: but one of the common although I think misdirected complaints
Speaker 3: about athletes is they don't care enough about winning because
Speaker 3: of the money they make. Here, you have a guy,
Speaker 3: say what you want about him. Winning matters to him,
Speaker 3: The success matters to him, His reputation as a quarterback
Speaker 3: matters to him, and we tell him the shut up,
Speaker 3: be happy with the money you're making.
Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 3: You can't tell these guys, well, you don't care enough
Speaker 3: about winning because.
Speaker 1: You're you're overpaid.
Speaker 3: And then when they care so much about winning that
Speaker 3: it's affecting them publicly, you can't say, shut up, you're
Speaker 3: making too much money to care about winning.
Speaker 1: That well, which one do we want it?
Speaker 2: I don't want to answer that question, but we'll ask
Speaker 2: you one more question, please. According to ESPN, Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: is more likely to become Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer.
Speaker 1: Which is it. I'll frame it this way. Since you
Speaker 1: won't answer my question, I want to answer that question.
Speaker 1: What is more likely to happen right now?
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow wins a Super Bowl over the next four
Speaker 3: years while he's under contract with the Bengals, or he
Speaker 3: chooses to do what Carson Palmer did, or he chooses
Speaker 3: to do what Andrew Luck did. Now, you might say,
Speaker 3: odds are he's not going to do what Carson did.
Speaker 3: That's fair. Yep, odds are he's not going to do
Speaker 3: what Andrew Luck did.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 3: But our odds are that Joe Burrow's gonna win a
Speaker 3: super Bowl here over the next four years.
Speaker 1: Oh feels like they're very far away from that.
Speaker 3: To me, that's the question because I do not lead
Speaker 3: to the conclusion that he's gonna do what Carson did.
Speaker 3: And by the way, what Carson did I was okay with.
Speaker 3: I was in the minority. Then fourteen years later, I'm
Speaker 3: in the minority now. Andrew Luck made a deeply personal
Speaker 3: decision because of the accumulation of injuries. I don't gather
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow just rushed his ass back to come
Speaker 3: back and play for this team that was going nowhere.
Speaker 3: So I'm not led to believe that he's gonna do
Speaker 3: what Andrew Luck did. But okay, the only way that
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow era is deemed a success is if they
Speaker 3: win a championship, which at the end of the twenty
Speaker 3: to twenty one season, I think a lot of his
Speaker 3: thought was maybe not an inevitability, but at least there
Speaker 3: a very very strong possibility now with their roster issues,
Speaker 3: with the track record in the draft, as abysmal as
Speaker 3: the defense has been, are they gonna win a championship
Speaker 3: over these next four years? Because even if he doesn't
Speaker 3: pull a Carson, even if he doesn't pull it Andrew Luck,
Speaker 3: if they don't win while he's the face of the franchise,
Speaker 3: then who cares?
Speaker 1: Right then it didn't work.
Speaker 3: So that's the question. You might not think he's going
Speaker 3: to do a Carson. You might not think he's gonna
Speaker 3: do an Andrew Luck. That's fine. Can this franchise, can
Speaker 3: this front office, can this coaching staff get Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: to a place where his talents are good enough? And
Speaker 3: they certainly weren't on this play yesterday, but Joe Burrow's
Speaker 3: talents are good enough to get this team a Lombardi
Speaker 3: Trophy for the first time ever.
Speaker 2: I'll give you credit, Moe. You answered my question, I
Speaker 2: went on answer yours. I'll lay that upon the table
Speaker 2: for bengledem thoughtful considerations. Mo Hager, once again, thanks for
Speaker 2: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show on this very cold
Speaker 2: and windy Monday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Thank you very.
Speaker 3: Much, Thank you Willie, and thank you for my hot
Speaker 3: folks Sunday last week. It was only twelve and a
Speaker 3: half months overdue.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more news next You're home in the
Speaker 2: Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLO with the music Russ Jackson.
Speaker 2: Many leave, but many return. Good to have him back
Speaker 2: on the board. Do your We'll see what happens down
Speaker 2: the road. And secondly, you heard mommo talk about the future.
Speaker 2: Know your roll and shut your mouth. It's the way
Speaker 2: things are. You either accept it and move on. Why complain?
Speaker 2: Why moan? Why act as if things could be better,
Speaker 2: because they could be, but they're not going to get better.
Speaker 2: In fact, there's many NFL teams not dissimilar to the Bengals. Heck,
Speaker 2: look at the Cleveland Browns. For God's sakes, would you
Speaker 2: want to be a Browns fan? Or New York Giants.
Speaker 2: They're in turmoil. Of course, they won a couple three
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. But how about the Las Vegas Raiders? How
Speaker 2: bad are they? They've only won two games? And talk
Speaker 2: to my friends in Vegas. They love having the Raiders.
Speaker 2: They're likely going to love having a baseball team there.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless it's the way things are. There's many a
Speaker 2: large and small cities that are in a similar situation
Speaker 2: as the Bengals are in with lowsy management and with
Speaker 2: no concern for the fans, and they make billions of dollars.
Speaker 2: So know your roll and shut your mouth, get on
Speaker 2: your costumes, get on your paint, run around like you're crazy.
Speaker 2: Give lots of money to the Bengal organization. And when
Speaker 2: they don't sweep the streets and when they don't handle
Speaker 2: the bowl of the stadium, you have to go in
Speaker 2: and sit on a home city ice bag for several hours.
Speaker 1: You know it's coming. So accepted.
Speaker 2: And you know, one of the great sayings in life,
Speaker 2: as you know, is may God give me the strength
Speaker 2: to change the things I can change. May God give
Speaker 2: me the courage to accept the things I can change,
Speaker 2: and the patience to know the difference. And at this
Speaker 2: point you have a ninety year old owner who's not
Speaker 2: going to change his ways, and there's no general manager
Speaker 2: for the ball club. You have Duke Tobin, who's a
Speaker 2: player development guy, and he picks, he picks all the
Speaker 2: recipes for the disaster that you saw yesterday, and it's
Speaker 2: not likely to get better. And I kind of like
Speaker 2: the last question mode laid upon the table. What is
Speaker 2: more likely to occur? That is, or is Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: going to lead the Bengals to a Super Bowl win?
Speaker 4: Or?
Speaker 2: Secondly, would Joe Burrow become Andrew Locker. Thirdly, would Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow become Carson Palmer. Those are the three issues, and
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one is more likely at this point.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but whatever it is, it's good to
Speaker 2: have an NFL team here, even a bad one with
Speaker 2: horrible management and an ownership that is worth now a billions.
Speaker 2: If you were a billionaire and the peasants gave you
Speaker 2: all that kind of money, would you really care what
Speaker 2: the peasants think. You're a billionaire. If it don't like it,
Speaker 2: I'll take my franchise and go somewhere else and get
Speaker 2: my billions of dollars. So dress up, put on the
Speaker 2: silly costumes, come yell, holler, and shout, and know every
Speaker 2: now and then, every thirty years or so, the Bengals
Speaker 2: might be good. They were good with Kenny Anderson and
Speaker 2: then slid back into the Abyss. They were good with
Speaker 2: boomer size and slid back into the abyss and they
Speaker 2: were good with Joe Burrow slid back into the abyss.
Speaker 1: That's the way this is. The last three years.
Speaker 2: The efficiency of the Bengals offensive line is thirtieth in
Speaker 2: the league out of thirty two. I like to know
Speaker 2: who the other two teams are, and it's not going
Speaker 2: to change. The defense is not going to change. Duke
Speaker 2: Tobin picks the players, Mike Brown nods, and I assume
Speaker 2: Zach Sual has some input and away you go.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it is.
Speaker 2: Secondly, I spoke this morning to the Supreme Court Justice
Speaker 2: Joseph T and t Eaters, and to indirectly to Mark
Speaker 2: Pete Meyer. I talked to Mark pete Meyer about four
Speaker 2: days ago. Mark pete Meyer was the trial attorney for
Speaker 2: Edward Jones and Elwood was freed in a sense by
Speaker 2: the current Hemny County prosecutor. And we're going to take
Speaker 2: that matter up on Wednesday for about an hour sitting
Speaker 2: there and there will be Justice Joe Dieters. He's taken
Speaker 2: off his black robe with the permission of the Chief
Speaker 2: Sharon Kennedy. He's going to talk about the Elwood Jones case,
Speaker 2: and of course the murder of Rhoda Nathan and then
Speaker 2: Mark Pete Meyer. When you see the old video from
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, Mark Pete Meyer was the trial attorney
Speaker 2: for the Prosecutor's office standing next to Elwood Jones, who
Speaker 2: Bob Way was a career criminal. Did you has anyone
Speaker 2: reported on the fact Prosecutor's office told me he served
Speaker 2: at least two stints in prison for burglaries.
Speaker 1: And of course.
Speaker 2: Elwood when he when he murdered rote To Nathan was
Speaker 2: about forty forty one years old, and he was in
Speaker 2: the business of using his pass key to go and
Speaker 2: go into the rooms of customers who had left to
Speaker 2: go down to the buffet line, and he would go
Speaker 2: through the rooms quickly with his pass key and steal
Speaker 2: certain items unbeknownst to him. He stole the item around
Speaker 2: rode To Nathan's neck, which was the diamond brooch, the
Speaker 2: necklace that eventually got him convicted of murder in front
Speaker 2: of a jerry here in Hamlin County. And so the
Speaker 2: two issues raised by Countie Pillach are a non sequitur.
Speaker 2: One was well, after all, rode To Nathan had hepatitis
Speaker 2: B and doctors believe that if you're if you get
Speaker 2: punched in the mouth, you're going to convey to the
Speaker 2: other person who's punched you hepatitis B. Well, that could happen.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it may not happen. It's like
Speaker 2: being in a room with somebody with the flu. You
Speaker 2: may catch it or you may not. It's not a
Speaker 2: certainty that if someone as hepatitis B and a fist
Speaker 2: hits your mouth so hard your teeth go into your stomach,
Speaker 2: that necessarily it is always true that the person doing that,
Speaker 2: Elwood Jones, would get hepatitis B.
Speaker 1: It could happen. On the other hand, it may not happen.
Speaker 1: Don't know.
Speaker 2: And the other issue was in a sense that they
Speaker 2: got the wrong guy and that the prosecutor's office didn't
Speaker 2: turn over certain information. And Mark Petemeyer, who actually was
Speaker 2: the guy turning over the information, will be here on
Speaker 2: Wednesday to talk about what he provided and how certain
Speaker 2: he is that Elwood is guilty of murdering wrote to
Speaker 2: Nathan and by the way and Jerry and Hamblin. The
Speaker 2: county in nineteen ninety five convicted him at that time
Speaker 2: first degree murder, also known as aggravated murderwaw committing a felony,
Speaker 2: which was a burglary, and they saw all the evidence,
Speaker 2: all the case, and they found him guilty. The case
Speaker 2: went to the First District Court of Appeals. The arguments
Speaker 2: raised recently by the defense team was heard by the
Speaker 2: First District Court of Appeals. They said, Elwood, you're guilty.
Speaker 2: The case then went to the High Supreme Court death
Speaker 2: penalty case must be fully reviewed by the High Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: By the way, this takes years. And they looked at
Speaker 2: all the evidence and said, Elwood, you're guilty.
Speaker 1: You did it.
Speaker 2: Another this burglary for him went bad. Then it went
Speaker 2: to Federal District Court Judge Carl Ruben, etc. He looked
Speaker 2: at all the evidence with his law clerks and said, Elwood,
Speaker 2: you did it. Then it went to the sixth Circuit
Speaker 2: US Court of Appeals, which is headquartered in Cincinnati, but
Speaker 2: it handles Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: They said, Elwood, you did it.
Speaker 2: Then over the years, more cases were filed in various courts,
Speaker 2: and every I think the numbers twenty to twenty five
Speaker 2: judges have all said that Edwood Jones murdered. Wrote to
Speaker 2: Nathan that this issue. But hepatitis B is not this
Speaker 2: positive one way or another, and the information turned over
Speaker 2: or not turned over was not exculpatory and it would
Speaker 2: have provided no available defense not otherwise available. So in
Speaker 2: other words, Edward Jones got complete justice and now the
Speaker 2: system when I know Sloany this morning had on somebody
Speaker 2: about the death penalty briefly on that Mike DeWine has
Speaker 2: not signed one death penalty warrant and is not likely
Speaker 2: to do it in his last year. The next governor,
Speaker 2: vivek Ramaswami and or Amy acting God forbid, is likely
Speaker 2: to take the same approach. So Joe Dieters has said
Speaker 2: many times, the prosecutors have said to me many times,
Speaker 2: if you don't want the death penalty, that's okay, saves
Speaker 2: us a lot of work. But if you have a
Speaker 2: death penalty, that's the law, and this case applies to
Speaker 2: get the death penalty, then it's up to prosecutor's office
Speaker 2: to follow his oath and seek.
Speaker 1: The death penalty.
Speaker 2: What happened in Claimont County with that man who killed
Speaker 2: his three sons When the prosecutor out there said, I
Speaker 2: don't want to try a death penalty case, we'll take
Speaker 2: life in prison without possibility of parole. If that guy
Speaker 2: didn't get the death penalty for murdering cold blood his
Speaker 2: three little boys, there shouldn't be a death penalty. I
Speaker 2: have no problem with that because it's so infrequently applied
Speaker 2: to the most vicious of offenses. But please, if you
Speaker 2: don't want to try a death penalty case, which Connie
Speaker 2: Pelly seeming to doesn't want to try one, that's okay.
Speaker 2: But in the process of deciding not to try Elwood again,
Speaker 2: simply say, look, he's done thirty years in prison and
Speaker 2: he's not gonna get the death penalty anyway, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try him again.
Speaker 1: I'll let him go. Just say that.
Speaker 2: But in the process, don't act as if Mark Petemeyer
Speaker 2: and Joe Dieters either didn't know what they were doing
Speaker 2: or purposely conjured up evidence to convict an otherwise innocent
Speaker 2: man of arible murder. Because that's wrong. That's really wrong.
Speaker 2: No one can explain how this specialized necklace around Rooda
Speaker 2: Nathan's neck found its way into the toolbox of Elwood Jones,
Speaker 2: because that little piece of the puzzle, you know, like
Speaker 2: CSI Styalue you try to say, how does this piece fit?
Speaker 1: That doesn't fit at all. Also in the.
Speaker 2: Toolbox was a pass key and also some chain links
Speaker 2: from doors, and also the actual necklace worn around the
Speaker 2: neck of Rhoda Nathan. There were hundreds of photos taken
Speaker 2: at the scene and the necklace was missing, and everyone assumed, well,
Speaker 2: the murderer took it. Well, they were right. The murderer
Speaker 2: took it and it was in his possession when the
Speaker 2: police got a search worn and found it inside Elwood's
Speaker 2: own toolbox. Can you explain how that got there? Well,
Speaker 2: the answer is the murderer put it there. And the
Speaker 2: only time anyone has ever tried this case in Hamleton
Speaker 2: County to get a verdict, the verdict was guilty as
Speaker 2: charged by that jury. You might recall that a recent
Speaker 2: trial judge, liberal Democrat, when you cross very liberal Democrat,
Speaker 2: granted Elwood a new trial and she barred from evidence
Speaker 2: the testimony of any dead witness. How the cops in
Speaker 2: Blue Ash largely are dead right now and they can't testify.
Speaker 2: So simply say, look, it's difficult to retry the case,
Speaker 2: and that el would receive justice by serving thirty years
Speaker 2: in jail for a murder, having already served years in
Speaker 2: jail for burglaries before he killed Rode to Nathan. According
Speaker 2: to prosecutor Joe Eaters and Mark Petmeyer, I'm going to
Speaker 2: conclude the case. Here's the thirty years. See, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be you. Just do that, Connie, just say
Speaker 2: you know, but don't go out the door kicking Mark
Speaker 2: Petemeyer and Joe Eaters and the groin in the neck.
Speaker 2: Don't go out the door blaming the for a bad
Speaker 2: prosecution when every judge has looked at it, other than
Speaker 2: a recent Liberal Democratic judge said that Ellwood was guilty.
Speaker 1: Just do that.
Speaker 2: Do your job without demeaning other people. So those who
Speaker 2: have been demeaned will be here on Wednesday between twelve
Speaker 2: thirty and one thirty to describe what happened with Elwood Jones.
Speaker 2: Mark Petemeyer is the best trial prosecutor in the history
Speaker 2: of the state of Ohio. In fact, the governor and
Speaker 2: others appointed him to try cases outside of Hamilton County,
Speaker 2: like in Lucasville. When this ride's taking place, let's look
Speaker 2: around Ohio and find out of the two or three
Speaker 2: thousand prosecutors, who's the best. Well that's Mark Petemeyer, all right,
Speaker 2: we get him. And he was in Hamilton County for
Speaker 2: like forty years. On top of that, Joe Dieters is
Speaker 2: the longest serving prosecutor the history of Hamlet County. He
Speaker 2: only took death penalty cases to trial when he was certain,
Speaker 2: not well beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant committed
Speaker 2: the murder. In every court that's ever looked at it
Speaker 2: for thirty years said exactly the same thing, except a
Speaker 2: brand new had never been on the bench, liberal Democratic
Speaker 2: judge who wanted to free a black man for killing
Speaker 2: of a white woman. And she happened to find the
Speaker 2: case of Elwood Jones and rode to Nathan and she
Speaker 2: did what she did. And that's fine if you want
Speaker 2: to play that game, that's good. Every urban county in
Speaker 2: America has gone the way of Hamilton County. In the
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati, this is not unusual. You can't get
Speaker 2: much justice in Chicago or Memphis, or New York City
Speaker 2: or LA for God's sakes, but at least if you
Speaker 2: want to do that, simply dismissed the case. He served
Speaker 2: thirty years, and I can't put the new case on
Speaker 2: because the judge has barred me from putting on testimony
Speaker 2: of dead witnesses. Therefore, I'm going to I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: Elwood out o R bond from death row. That's fine,
Speaker 2: but going out the door. Don't blame Mark eat Meyer
Speaker 2: and Joe Eaters for what you want to do. Let's continue.
Speaker 1: That'll be on Wednesday, I think, along with Senator John Houston.
Speaker 2: So there we go. Let's continue with more. After one
Speaker 2: o'clock today, we're going to call Steve Gooden, attorney in
Speaker 2: the tri State, about the eight point one million dollars
Speaker 2: given to the criminals, the protesters who violated misdemeanor laws,
Speaker 2: and now they're going to make ten to twenty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars each for that and so much more. And after
Speaker 2: two o'clock today I'll lay upon the table an important
Speaker 2: question for your consideration is jo is Joe Burrow not
Speaker 2: Joe Eaters. Is Joe Burrow number one more likely to
Speaker 2: win his Super Bowl in the next five years? Number
Speaker 2: two become Andrew Luck. So many injuries I quit or
Speaker 2: number three Carson Palmer. I want to keep playing football,
Speaker 2: I just can't do it here. That would be laid
Speaker 2: upon the table for your considerations after two o'clock twelve
Speaker 2: fifty five, Homi your reds and God bless Mark Pete
Speaker 2: Meyer and Joe Eaters on news Radio seven hundreds ww
Speaker 2: B Billy cunning him the Great America. That's the story
Speaker 2: last week that Irish Rollie w came out with me
Speaker 2: about a month ago. And by the way, I do
Speaker 2: not blame Iris ROLEI that the city wants to give
Speaker 2: you six hundred thousand dollars plus plus plus. Most Americans
Speaker 2: would say thank you, Sir. May have another absolutely about
Speaker 2: her getting that kind of money from the city having
Speaker 2: solved criminal problems. And secondly, the cities also agreed to
Speaker 2: eight point one million dollars to the misdemeanor criminals who
Speaker 2: committed offenses of public trespassing. More that were given ten
Speaker 2: to twenty thousand dollars each. And I'm gonna ask Steve
Speaker 2: good In the attorney about whether citizens like him can
Speaker 2: object to the city spending his money in this way.
Speaker 2: Is Steve Gooden, Attorney, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 2: And Steve, first of all, let's deal with Iris Roy.
Speaker 2: I watched this public affair situation over the weekend with
Speaker 2: Curtis Fuller of Channel five. His guests were Adam Interim
Speaker 2: Chief Adam Henny and Iris Roley and some assistant city manager.
Speaker 2: I tried to see what they were saying, but they
Speaker 2: were words untethered to reality. I'm not sure what they
Speaker 2: were saying other than, man, we're working hard and this
Speaker 2: city is so much safer than it's spend in a
Speaker 2: long time. Life is good. And then I read about
Speaker 2: all the shootings and things of that character. So give
Speaker 2: me your sense of paying Iris Roly six hundred thousand
Speaker 2: dollars plus and whether that's money well spent, well.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not money well spent.
Speaker 5: It's just this is how this city hall does patronage, right,
Speaker 5: I mean, back in the old days, in the nineteen twenties,
Speaker 5: the Boss Cock stage, you would hire your buddies.
Speaker 4: To jobs at the city. Now you know that's been
Speaker 4: outlawed by the charter. So now you'd hire.
Speaker 5: Independent contractors and nonprofits. And that's how you funnel your
Speaker 5: money to your political supporters. Iris was the number one
Speaker 5: political activist for the mayor over the last several years.
Speaker 5: She personally went after his opponents, went after a city
Speaker 5: council candidate. She didn't like she is exempt from all
Speaker 5: the ethics laws because she's not an actual city employee.
Speaker 5: So then two days after the election or three days
Speaker 5: after the election, they give her six hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 5: allegedly it's.
Speaker 4: For our anti violence efforts.
Speaker 5: It looks to all the world to me to be
Speaker 5: for her political advocacy. And I'll tell you, as a
Speaker 5: guy who has an office right by Government Square, remember
Speaker 5: she was being paid to clean up and reduce violence
Speaker 5: on Fountain Square and Government Square, in part by passing
Speaker 5: out sandwiches and food packets to the kids who hang
Speaker 5: around that bus stop. It was a total failure. The
Speaker 5: city still had to lean on Sorta and Metro to
Speaker 5: move and re route half those bus lines. That's the
Speaker 5: only thing that moved it. We still ended up with
Speaker 5: two shootings either on or near Fountain Square in business hours,
Speaker 5: and still ended up with SWAT teams to have to
Speaker 5: secure it. So whatever she did there was a failure.
Speaker 5: But she's still getting paid, And if you ask me,
Speaker 5: it's clearly because of all the politics and other stuff
Speaker 5: that she did during this time period. It's just patron
Speaker 5: It's plain and simple, but it's kind of masked and
Speaker 5: looking like it's something else. But you know right now,
Speaker 5: the citizens, you know, there's no one on there to complain.
Speaker 5: And the fact that if it was so legitimate, why
Speaker 5: did they wait till two days after the election.
Speaker 4: To jam it through.
Speaker 2: Well, of course, obviously in the good old days, patronage
Speaker 2: was you hire, like in the Sopranos, your buddies and
Speaker 2: friends for no show jobs, making lots of money. So
Speaker 2: you can't do that. She's coined as an independent contractor.
Speaker 2: In reality, she's an employee. But if you're an employee,
Speaker 2: you can our friends and family members on no show jobs.
Speaker 2: So what you do then is make her an independent
Speaker 2: contractor and she gets paid, she submits time sheets. We're
Speaker 2: talking serious money here, six hundred thousand. Is there an
Speaker 2: effort by you and others to maybe sue on that
Speaker 2: behalf saying the misuse of city funds? Is she's not
Speaker 2: an independent contractor, she's an employee, and maybe you're saying
Speaker 2: you do that? Is that is that possible?
Speaker 5: You know, we've been looking at that for some time,
Speaker 5: and that was really one of the big things we
Speaker 5: were out talking about during the election, you know, with
Speaker 5: the Charter Committee, and I know some of the Republican
Speaker 5: candidates were talking about it too. City council could stop
Speaker 5: this with a single vote. I mean, they could just
Speaker 5: basically say, hey, our contractors are now subject to the
Speaker 5: state ethics laws which ban all this stuff, and also
Speaker 5: the separate laws and requirements we have in ordinances we
Speaker 5: have here in the city. They could shut it down
Speaker 5: in a heartbeat. Breaking a lawsuit's going to be tough.
Speaker 5: We have looked at that. We've particularly been looking at
Speaker 5: this issue with this eight point one million dollars and
Speaker 5: then we're going to talk about in the moment. But
Speaker 5: it is really really hard to kind of legislate through
Speaker 5: litigation on these sorts of things.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, a taxpayer lawsuit you know, could be brought
Speaker 5: where it goes in our local courts, is very tough
Speaker 5: because we're dealing with individual contracts. I would these you know,
Speaker 5: five city council members could shut this down for all
Speaker 5: time by simply saying we're going to apply the state
Speaker 5: life laws on the other laws that exist.
Speaker 1: That won't do.
Speaker 4: Of course, not of course.
Speaker 2: Not because in ours rolling once I can't blame her
Speaker 2: if somebody said to you, I'm gonna give you six
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on a note, show up job to
Speaker 2: act as if handout sandwiches on Fountain Square. I think
Speaker 2: most people will say, hey, yea, all take it. But
Speaker 2: she also attacked the mayor's political opponents. Now on the mayor.
Speaker 2: Of course, he didn't make his car payments. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a note you have to pay the note you
Speaker 2: got to It's a notes I gotta be paid. Uh
Speaker 2: Tamay Dinard got in trouble for this. She didn't put
Speaker 2: on our financial forms. The fact that she had a
Speaker 2: car repossessed and had a deficiency is is anyone looking
Speaker 2: at the financial forms and by the way, that's a crime.
Speaker 2: Is anyone looking to have to have pure of all
Speaker 2: his financial forms. Whether he put down the numerous car repossessions.
Speaker 1: He said.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 5: Actually, one of my fellow board members over at the
Speaker 5: turn of Queen Todd Sensors, who's a former Inspector General
Speaker 5: up at the Department of Transportation, is all over this.
Speaker 5: You know, we've got multiple public records requests and we're
Speaker 5: trying to get to get to the bottom of all that.
Speaker 4: And you know, for me, the big issue it's.
Speaker 5: Not thought whether or not the mayor had financial problems.
Speaker 5: I guess people have issues, it's part of life. But
Speaker 5: the story he told makes zero sense. And if there's
Speaker 5: a problem with disclosure there, I mean, you're absolutely right,
Speaker 5: that's something that has to be fleshed out. He's compromised.
Speaker 5: We know how things ended with council Member Dinard. I
Speaker 5: mean she was compromised because of financial issues and then
Speaker 5: ended up soliciting a bribe and pleading guilty to it.
Speaker 5: I know she kind of wants to take the plea back,
Speaker 5: I understand from her public statements, but she ended up
Speaker 5: doing I think eleven months in federal prison for it. So,
Speaker 5: and this was one that she solicited. This was not
Speaker 5: part of the sit and feld sting operation. She actually
Speaker 5: went out and solicited that from a developer's lawyer who
Speaker 5: was involved with the banks, mister Gableman. So really a
Speaker 5: bad thing and it looks bad on city Hall, and
Speaker 5: it compromises these people and it makes them subject.
Speaker 4: To improper influence, and it's something that we are very
Speaker 4: much still fleshing out. Well.
Speaker 2: One of the elements of one of the cars repossessed
Speaker 2: from after Pureval is a co signer. Doesn't that if
Speaker 2: you have a mayor that needs a co signer in
Speaker 2: order to get a car. That's kind of a compromising,
Speaker 2: bad situation. But areween titled to know who co signed
Speaker 2: so you could have a car that was repossessed.
Speaker 4: I believe under the ethics flows, we are entitled to
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 5: And I mean, look, if he was, if it was
Speaker 5: a co signer with something, the co signer with someone
Speaker 5: who has business before the city, or could have business
Speaker 5: before the city.
Speaker 4: Or is affiliated with the company.
Speaker 5: That has business before the city, that is absolutely something
Speaker 5: that we need to know and should know. I mean again,
Speaker 5: that person, you know, he is beholden to whoever the
Speaker 5: co signer is in one way or another. And absolutely
Speaker 5: we're trying to get to the bottom of all that.
Speaker 2: Imagine this, Steve Go. We have a mayor doesn't make
Speaker 2: car payments, repossessions. We have a city manager who's filed
Speaker 2: bankruptcy with tax lienes. The president of council had, according
Speaker 2: to media accounts, at a one million dollar tax line
Speaker 2: against her and her husband. And those are the leaders
Speaker 2: financially of the city. You must master yourself before you
Speaker 2: seek to master others. So the city is run by
Speaker 2: individuals who have had profound financial difficulties and can't manage
Speaker 2: their own money. One might ask, why should they manage
Speaker 2: our money. Speaking of that, city council voted unanimously eight
Speaker 2: point one million dollars to Alfonsko Hartstein and Louis Serkin, etc.
Speaker 2: Because of what happened on the George Floyd protest. There
Speaker 2: were fifteen or twenty times the city passed the law
Speaker 2: on a curfew, which we have an effect for some
Speaker 2: people right now. You have to get off the streets.
Speaker 2: You have to quit breaking into cars and fire bombing storefronts.
Speaker 2: You have to quit doing that. And they passed a
Speaker 2: curfew violation, and that the police notified the so called
Speaker 2: individuals marching around city streets, which is a crime, by
Speaker 2: the way, breaking curfew a dozen or so times.
Speaker 1: Get off, We're going to rest you. Get off.
Speaker 2: They wanted to get arrested, hoping, I guess to se
Speaker 2: down the road. Here we are five years later and
Speaker 2: it's happened. Number one, Did it appear on the surface.
Speaker 2: These four hundred and seventy nine individuals are going to
Speaker 2: get all this money that they were breaking the law
Speaker 2: by walking around public streets shutting down things. Not the
Speaker 2: ones who are fire bombing the stores and breaking into cars.
Speaker 1: That's a different category.
Speaker 2: But the four seventy nine were just individuals who were
Speaker 2: arrested with zip tized because they wouldn't pay attention to
Speaker 2: what they're told to do. Repeatedly, the last thing the
Speaker 2: cops want to do is arrest somebody takes them off
Speaker 2: the street. But how valid is this eight point one
Speaker 2: million dollars from the city to the criminals.
Speaker 5: Well, this to me is one of the most, if
Speaker 5: not the most disgusting thing to come out of.
Speaker 4: This administration so far. Again, note that.
Speaker 5: They waited till after the election to win this sort
Speaker 5: of dead period in the holidays to try to do
Speaker 5: it and hopefully, hopefully no one would know this. But
Speaker 5: this is the worst of the worst. I mean, most
Speaker 5: of these folks are going to get ten one thousand
Speaker 5: dollars each for basically waiting around for a few hours
Speaker 5: in the early morning hours to in the sally Port
Speaker 5: over outside the Justice center to try to get them
Speaker 5: themselves processed and released on our bonds. I would have
Speaker 5: happily gone over for ten grand cash, non taxable and
Speaker 5: stood around at the Justice center for a few hours.
Speaker 5: I do it all the time for free at my job,
Speaker 5: so I would have happily done this. It's a total joke.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, Mayor Cranley was right to impose the curfew.
Speaker 5: I lived downtown during this time period, and I'm very
Speaker 5: tired of people rewriting history. I'm telling you, I heard
Speaker 5: the windows break. I knew one of the officers who
Speaker 5: was shot at during this. People forget that there were
Speaker 5: gone to these peaceful protesters. Some of them were armed,
Speaker 5: throwing rocks, harassing police officers. It is absolutely constitutionalle to
Speaker 5: put what they call time, place and manner.
Speaker 4: Restrictions on protests.
Speaker 5: All the mayor said was, look, if you guys are
Speaker 5: going to protest, protest, but you got to break.
Speaker 4: It up by eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5: And you can't go breaking into breaking windows and damaging
Speaker 5: other people's properties. No matter how we grieved someone is
Speaker 5: or how bad they felt about George Floyd going and
Speaker 5: smashing out windows here and in Cincinnati, Ohio, wasn't going
Speaker 5: to bring anyone back to life over in Minneapolis.
Speaker 4: It was just insane.
Speaker 5: And those property owners have rights, and the people who
Speaker 5: live downtown and were trying to conduct a business downtown
Speaker 5: had rights too, And it was a disgusting time. There's
Speaker 5: a total rewrite of history. It is a total waste
Speaker 5: of taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 4: And we have no.
Speaker 5: Idea even how these damages were arrived at. So it's
Speaker 5: ten grand each for most of them. There's about eleven
Speaker 5: of them that claimed that they had special damages who
Speaker 5: were going to get more. So there's like a three
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars pot for the eleven named plaintiffs, and
Speaker 5: then the lawyers, of course get two million ques. It's sick.
Speaker 5: It's sick, and it's our dollars. I mean, I live
Speaker 5: in the city. It's our money, and it's just insane.
Speaker 5: And those who are people who don't live in the
Speaker 5: city but pay income tax issue because they work here
Speaker 5: and have their jobs or have their offices or other
Speaker 5: jobs here, you know they're for it as well. The
Speaker 5: whole region's paying for it, and people should be very,
Speaker 5: very upset.
Speaker 2: The other issue is this, I heard the assistant city
Speaker 2: manager say, well, we're going to pay the eight point
Speaker 2: one million dollars, so that it could be a lot
Speaker 2: higher than that if we go to trial. Well, sometimes
Speaker 2: in life, you go to trial. I've tried cases in
Speaker 2: federal Court with jurys with Judge Ruben and Judge Porter.
Speaker 2: And one should know that the jurors in Federal Court
Speaker 2: in the Southern District are not only drawn from Hamilton County.
Speaker 2: In fact, the majority of jurors come from the other
Speaker 2: sixty counties south of Columbus who have a different view
Speaker 2: about these criminal protests. And maybe somebody living in the
Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati is a liberal Democrat and so sometimes
Speaker 2: in life you got to tee it up. These jurors
Speaker 2: would have come from Claremont County, Warren County, Brown County,
Speaker 2: Adams County, Highland County. How would they have viewed with
Speaker 2: all the video of these protesters and what they did.
Speaker 2: Do you think they would have handed out tens of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars of these protesters.
Speaker 5: I would love to try this case, I mean going back.
Speaker 5: I'd mean, look, you know all, I would love to
Speaker 5: get a good juror from Ironton, Ohio on there looking
Speaker 5: at the at the video of this and hearing how
Speaker 5: these police officers were being treated, and to hear from
Speaker 5: some of the shop owners who had their windows smashed
Speaker 5: out and who had items stolen from their stores. I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean this the curfew was perfectly legal and constitutional.
Speaker 5: This is a political settlement. I have no idea and
Speaker 5: nor has it ever been explained how they came up
Speaker 5: with this ten thousand dollars per person figure. He felt
Speaker 5: like they were missing work or anything. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: not you know, two in the morning when they got
Speaker 5: picked up, nor did they you know or is there
Speaker 5: any indication that these folks would have had, you know,
Speaker 5: jobs to go to it normally anyway, Probably a lot
Speaker 5: of them. I think there were a fair number of
Speaker 5: quote unquote professional.
Speaker 4: Protesters down there kipped in. So it's really disgusting.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you take this hold and they want to pay
Speaker 2: the money, and I can only imagine it, by the way,
Speaker 2: the other shoe to drop with Elwood Jones, the other
Speaker 2: shoe here he come with a lawsuit for millions of
Speaker 2: dollars against Hamley County for locking him up for about
Speaker 2: thirty years for a murder he committed. And that's coming also.
Speaker 2: And then you also have the settlement of Chief Thiji
Speaker 2: her hands out for about a million bucks, and then
Speaker 2: Chief Washington, the fire chief, his hands out for an
Speaker 2: assistant chief. The city's going to settle all these cases
Speaker 2: from millions of dollars with your money.
Speaker 1: I don't live in the city, but you do, and.
Speaker 2: You live where f Ted Piraval may not have paid
Speaker 2: his HOA fees. He's got serious financial problems and had
Speaker 2: the city handled this money as if it's justified.
Speaker 1: Has got as sick in a city resident.
Speaker 4: Correct, it's really, it's just disgusting.
Speaker 5: And I mean, meanwhile, you know, we're sitting here in
Speaker 5: a deep freeze, which means we're going to.
Speaker 4: Have a really bad pothole season.
Speaker 5: You know, most bottles are caused by early freezes that
Speaker 5: get into cracks and then blow up into potholes.
Speaker 4: So we already know we're.
Speaker 5: Going to have a rough time on the streets, you know,
Speaker 5: and we know that they're always behind on street pair.
Speaker 4: So the city has already been going.
Speaker 5: You know, into a situation where it looks dilapidated and
Speaker 5: the roads are terrible, and it feels like, I say,
Speaker 5: you're you know, like a lunar landing sometimes just driving
Speaker 5: around the city streets. It's just a it's a mess.
Speaker 5: But yet we don't have money to fix the streets.
Speaker 5: But we got eight point one million for some people
Speaker 5: who felt aggrieved and had their cell phones taken. I
Speaker 5: guess that's part of the damages. I was just I
Speaker 5: just saw, you know, for for protesting in the in
Speaker 5: the middle of the night five years ago. But we
Speaker 5: have money for them, but not for this. And they're
Speaker 5: making these horrific financial personnel decisions which are going to
Speaker 5: cost him. I mean, like Chief Washington, I'm very familiar
Speaker 5: with that case, and they've talked to him many times.
Speaker 5: He's getting money, okay, like in my judgment, my legal judgment,
Speaker 5: putting all politics aside, they owe him. Okay, he's got
Speaker 5: a fantastic case. And I think Chief the g they're
Speaker 5: gonna end up having to pay her too, as you've
Speaker 5: talked about. I mean, these are millions of dollars and
Speaker 5: just these you know, effeckless personnel decisions that are purely
Speaker 5: politically driven and are I mean, they got rid of
Speaker 5: theig because I thought it was going to help the
Speaker 5: mayor and city case Unsel before the city before the election,
Speaker 5: and it probably did so, I mean, you know, she
Speaker 5: became a sacrificial lamb, no matter what you think of
Speaker 5: her performance. So this is politics, But people like me
Speaker 5: end up paying well.
Speaker 2: Steve Gooden tell the mayor it's no joke. You got
Speaker 2: to pay your note. So let's see what happens down
Speaker 2: the road. It's no joke. You got to pay your note.
Speaker 2: We got a mayor. That's finny well, Steve, we got
Speaker 2: to run. But thanks for laying it out. We've become
Speaker 2: like many other liberal cities, in which case they're poorly run,
Speaker 2: very expensive to be in. And of course the Bengal
Speaker 2: ownership kind of doesn't have money to buy a snow shovel.
Speaker 1: That's another issue.
Speaker 2: But Steve Gooden, you're a great American, and thanks for
Speaker 2: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve, you two, thank you any time. Let's continue.
Speaker 1: The truth will set you free. It's no joke, you
Speaker 1: got to pay your note. On News Radio seven hundreds WLW,
Speaker 1: I would expect prosecutors to act like prosecutors.
Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: You know that's justice Joe about Elwood.
Speaker 2: By the way, this Elwood Jones being wine, dined in
Speaker 2: pocket line all over town, had two stints in prison
Speaker 2: for burglaries before killing Rhoda. Oh so this wasn't exactly
Speaker 2: a paragon of virtue, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So now at a couple of days.
Speaker 2: Who's going to show up sitting where Evan Andrews is
Speaker 2: right now will be Joseph TNT Dieters had to explode
Speaker 2: with a power load.
Speaker 1: We'll be sitting right there.
Speaker 2: He's going to take off his rope and on his
Speaker 2: prosecutor's hat and sitting with your segment will be Mark
Speaker 2: pete Meyer actually tried the case. They're going to bring
Speaker 2: the fastball. There'll be no change ups for that one.
Speaker 2: That'll be Wednesday, going to the Express. Yes, now Evan
Speaker 2: Andrews is with us, and and Evan talked about first
Speaker 2: of all about world events, politics, world capital, what's happening
Speaker 2: in Australia, what happened with isis in Syria? Or talk
Speaker 2: about SINCEY favorites one of the other, what do you
Speaker 2: want to talk about?
Speaker 1: We'll start with SINCEY favorites, good point? How about that?
Speaker 1: There we go?
Speaker 2: Now what is Since Segman doesn't know he lives in
Speaker 2: Middle Tucky, he doesn't know what Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Is, well explain it.
Speaker 7: As you know, we own Montgomery in and SINCEY Favorites
Speaker 7: is a small offshoot of our restaurant business. We started
Speaker 7: this in nineteen ninety four, shipping our ribs and barbecue
Speaker 7: sauce all across the country. And in the years that followed,
Speaker 7: all the other folks in town icons they came and said,
Speaker 7: can you do it for us too? And we did
Speaker 7: and that's when Sincey Favorites was formed. So we've got Skyline,
Speaker 7: Rosa's Greaters, Glears, Getta Pine Club, Jeff Ruby, Steaks, everybody,
Speaker 7: they're all with us.
Speaker 2: It's great seg who was president of nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2: Let me think Willie you were, Willie, Willie, willy Well,
Speaker 2: William Clinton, Monica Blewinsky, William, Jeff for some cla.
Speaker 7: That's it right there. Please continue, Evan, thank you. This
Speaker 7: is like hot stove league.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm testing his knowledge
Speaker 2: on difficulty intractable matters. So explain how this works, say segment,
Speaker 2: someone listening and independent, someone in Toledo, the home in
Speaker 2: the mud Hens, someone in Bloomington, the home maybe the
Speaker 2: second best football team and the Big Ten, with all
Speaker 2: due respect to Ojistate, they might be the best.
Speaker 1: How do you do it? How do you get Sincy Favorites?
Speaker 1: A menu of items? Right, there's a whole menu of items.
Speaker 7: You just call up one eight hundred USA ribs. Talk
Speaker 7: to one of the folks, or go to Sincyfavorites dot com.
Speaker 7: Hit the menu button and you can see everything that
Speaker 7: we have to offer.
Speaker 1: Here's the great news right there. You can mix and match.
Speaker 7: So you want to have ribs, You want to have
Speaker 7: some Greater's black raspberry chip, You want some clears?
Speaker 4: Getta?
Speaker 7: Do you want something else thrown in from the College
Speaker 7: Hill Kikery, like their ooey gouey buttercake.
Speaker 1: Say that again, ouey gooey ooey gooey buttercake. Can you
Speaker 1: spell it Louie guey? No, but it sounds good. Or
Speaker 1: or you want some carrot cake from Bon Bonderi or Cervannis.
Speaker 1: Either way, so then you pick what you want. Pick
Speaker 1: what you want because.
Speaker 7: We're not like the old the other guys they put
Speaker 7: their boxes up eight nine months ahead of time and
Speaker 7: they've been in the freezer. We don't do it that way.
Speaker 7: We pick and pull to order. We pack it to order.
Speaker 2: So you're Cincinnati and North, they could tuck in. You
Speaker 2: live in Ioway listening in Florida, a taste of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: shall we?
Speaker 1: You got it? And it's there. It's there the next
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Speaker 2: You're here when Dean Gregory was going after Tom Gregory,
Speaker 2: did you hear about this heart?
Speaker 7: It live pretty good stuff? Would you agree? It's you know,
Speaker 7: it's good theater. But you have to remember Tom was
Speaker 7: out on the West coast. In addition to taking some
Speaker 7: much needed R and R, he was talking to some
Speaker 7: of our customers on the West coast, a.
Speaker 1: Piss trip out to the golf course. Business. Business. You
Speaker 1: have to remember, yes, this segment. Business.
Speaker 7: When Arnold Palmer's restaurant, they they're still busy, they still
Speaker 7: carry Montgomery and Ribs.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be out there doing quality control? John Gregory
Speaker 1: will be there for quality control exactly. Please continue well.
Speaker 8: The college football Brendan Soresby oh as likely quarterback as
Speaker 8: last game for the Cincinnati Bearcats, good ridden six thirty
Speaker 8: five pounds dual threat opting out of the liberty Bowl
Speaker 8: coming up and has entered the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: How many other UC players are taking the Texas El
Speaker 2: Paso come back in quarterbacks? Look at Philip Rivers, he's
Speaker 2: going to play for the Bearcats. But well, just saying, maybe.
Speaker 8: Soarsby through for twenty eight hundred yards, twenty seven touchdowns
Speaker 8: just five I n T so Brady Lichtenberg. Brady Lichtenberg
Speaker 8: out of Toledo. Looks like he's gonna be ready for
Speaker 8: the Bearcats in the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 1: Soresby wants to be paid more money. Correct.
Speaker 8: The rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars
Speaker 8: by different schools. Say that again, Soresby has been offered
Speaker 8: four million dollars by difference, sing very good here she's
Speaker 8: offered four million dollars, BINGO take it, I take the
Speaker 8: money and run. Yeah, take some river. Bengals update, Willie,
Speaker 8: brought to you by Good Spirits and Tobacco and Party Town.
Speaker 1: Are you afraid to let the Bengal fans talk? Are you?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 1: Do you fear the Bengal fans? No, they got a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about. You happy you didn't have.
Speaker 2: The the doings before the Bengals game. You're like you
Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of tail games. You're not kidding.
Speaker 2: It was nice and warm at home yesterday. Thirteen Northern
Speaker 2: Kentucky locations at Party Town in Florence were open three
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five days to serve you the party.
Speaker 2: They have been eliminated for the playoffs after yesterday's tobacco
Speaker 2: twenty four nothing really first time, but they've been shut
Speaker 2: out at home since twenty seventeen. The experts said this
Speaker 2: morning an ESPN that Joe Burrow is never quarterback the
Speaker 2: game when it didn't score point high school, college, pros.
Speaker 1: Et cetera.
Speaker 2: So first for everything, Evan Andrews, here's the question number one,
Speaker 2: what's going to happen next? First, Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2: That's a B. Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer. See Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow wins the Super Bowl? Here, what's more likely to happen?
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 7: D All of the none of the above, None of
Speaker 7: the above. I hope it's see what to use. I
Speaker 7: hope it's see.
Speaker 8: More to night on Bengals line, Willie. It's six oh
Speaker 8: five right here on seven hundred WLW. Monday Night Football
Speaker 8: has Miami in Pittsburgh seven on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 1: Gotta have more like the chiefs Uh, there goes. Tara
Speaker 1: is done.
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes suffering a torn a cl He may not
Speaker 8: even be back to the beginning of next season.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of her anyway. What about you, Evan Andrews.
Speaker 2: You like her because she loaded up the boat house
Speaker 2: when she was in town?
Speaker 1: Correct, she's she could play every weekend. We'd love to
Speaker 1: have her.
Speaker 2: Taylor Short have to get rid of I think Travis
Speaker 2: Kelsey because they're not in the Super Bowl, thank god.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna have that one eyed guy from Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have him singing in Spanish so that you
Speaker 2: have to learn English and learn Spanish soon. Okay, so
Speaker 2: you can listen to what's his name, the one eyed guy?
Speaker 2: That's bad, Bunny, that's him, that's bad.
Speaker 8: And it's one hundred and two days. Will you until
Speaker 8: opening day fifty seven? Until spring training begins? What about
Speaker 8: the draft? Let's talk about the draft. Got the Bengals
Speaker 8: in the draft segment?
Speaker 1: Who knows?
Speaker 2: I think Mike Brown at the age of ninety's gonna
Speaker 2: change his ways. Clean the seats off first, How about
Speaker 2: sitting on bags of home city ice and you'll love it.
Speaker 2: By the way, just kind of brush it away. Where
Speaker 2: do you prush it to at your feet, the guy
Speaker 2: in front of you, the woman?
Speaker 1: What do you brush it? That never would have happened
Speaker 1: in Buffalo? I don't know or clean Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan tells me Buffalo and Cleveland know what to
Speaker 2: do when it snows.
Speaker 1: People to show up with the shovel you. You can
Speaker 1: give him a ticket to something. Five thousand people, they
Speaker 1: show up, they line up, they.
Speaker 2: Line up in order and clean out the stadium. But
Speaker 2: now we don't think like that. Here at Lisha Reese
Speaker 2: I think is correct. One more time, Evan, what happens
Speaker 2: with the Sinsey Favorites tell the segment. He wants to
Speaker 2: start ordering on speed dial right now.
Speaker 7: As we always say, order early, and often he will.
Speaker 7: We've got it ready, just the way too late. We
Speaker 7: got the December twenty second is Monday. That's probably that's
Speaker 7: probably gonna be it.
Speaker 1: Monday's it. Monday's gonna be it for Cincinnati Northern KNACKI well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have that order into us by Monday, and
Speaker 7: we're going to get it out for Tuesday, no.
Speaker 1: Question about it.
Speaker 2: You might You know, Sharon Moore has lots of free
Speaker 2: time when he's out out of prison in Michigan, so
Speaker 2: that's good. He could even order, right, Sharon, if he
Speaker 2: wants to taste the Cincinnati get him negative. Who's in
Speaker 2: more trouble? You're ready for another list? Give it to
Speaker 2: me about West Miller or Sharon Moore or Zach Shuler
Speaker 2: also known as Zach Taylor.
Speaker 1: Which which of those three do you think some more trouble?
Speaker 4: I'd go with b.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 2: I think you get the only fan this account. Get
Speaker 2: get them lathered up.
Speaker 1: I think Wes will be fine. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping so here. It's good to be here.
Speaker 2: Gotta happen like Travis Steele was great when he got
Speaker 2: to Miami. No, we're fine, We're prayerful. We gotta have
Speaker 2: we gotta have money. You gotta have hope. All I
Speaker 2: have is hope. I don't have reality. I have hope.
Speaker 2: Do you have any hope?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen Sunday in Miami. It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: little different temperature. I would think I would say so, Yeah,
Speaker 2: is Joe gonna play? I would say so, yes, Evan Andrews, what.
Speaker 1: Do you say?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, he's a gamer, he wants to play, he wants
Speaker 7: to play well.
Speaker 1: Four and eleven is not a good look. Beats three
Speaker 1: and thirteen like the Browns are. So it's not another
Speaker 1: good draft pick coming up.
Speaker 2: Evan Andrews, once again, what's the number to call? And
Speaker 2: what's the website if any?
Speaker 1: Since he favorites dot com, get them all, Get them all,
Speaker 1: Get them all segment. Please get me out of the
Speaker 1: Studge Report? Will he in honor of since he favorites
Speaker 1: dot com?
Speaker 8: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stoog Report.
Speaker 9: You know this man, I ain't never gonna be the
Speaker 9: guy that stands up and makes damn excuses like I
Speaker 9: ain't ever gonna do it. I just anybody that follows
Speaker 9: our program. It'll never happen. Okay, no matter how frustrated
Speaker 9: and pissed off I am, it ain't ever happening. Never
Speaker 9: gonna make excuses, but I'll talk about challenges. So don't
Speaker 9: get the two damn things confused.
Speaker 1: Okay, my name's Wes. Don't get me in this mess.
Speaker 1: It's not a joke.
Speaker 2: Seg Man, You gotta play, you Gotta pay the on
Speaker 2: seven hundred automio by Billy Cunningham The Great America. I've
Speaker 2: been listening for the past six hours to you, and
Speaker 2: listen to Tom Brennaman this morning, listen to Sloanely about
Speaker 2: all the Bengals went went right, one went wrong? How
Speaker 2: bad the stadium preparation was, how bad the Bengals look.
Speaker 2: The only thing missing from all this is the heart
Speaker 2: and soul of Bengaledom. As the Bengals fan. Having attend
Speaker 2: at the game or not, your voice must be heard.
Speaker 2: I lay upon the table one of three considerations for
Speaker 2: your thoughtful participation at five three, seven nine seven pounds
Speaker 2: seven hundred. In fact, we have seven lines and all
Speaker 2: of them are open for your call. But it must
Speaker 2: be a quickie. I'm gonna lay upon the table one
Speaker 2: of three choices for you to make. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 2: track of what the choices are. Then I'm gonna send
Speaker 2: them on to uh Dan Horde thought let him know
Speaker 2: what Bengaledem's think about this. And that is Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: according to Moegger and others, to not look so good
Speaker 2: and the game having played quite well by the way
Speaker 2: in Baltimore in Thanksgiving night, and then going into Buffalo,
Speaker 2: they were what about ten points up, had the ball
Speaker 2: with about eight minutes to go in the game, coughed
Speaker 2: up a bunch of touchdowns at the end and lost.
Speaker 2: Then yesterday's game was a debacle. So I lay upon
Speaker 2: the table for your thoughtful considerations. I don't want long
Speaker 2: dyed tribes. You have to vote one, two or three,
Speaker 2: and then give me a brief reason. Then it will
Speaker 2: be on to the next seven, four, nine, seven pounds,
Speaker 2: seven hundred. Here are the three. Number one, will Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow become Andrew Luck? You may recall after about six
Speaker 2: years came out of Stanford and Luck missed an entire season,
Speaker 2: and in the sixth year he led the Colts to
Speaker 2: the playoffs and then quit. Many people thought, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to quit, but he did quit and never
Speaker 2: came back. So that's number one. Will Joe Burrow become
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck if he answers to that, that's number one.
Speaker 2: Number two, Will Joe Burrow become Carson Palmer. That's another one.
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer, you know, from Southern col won the Heisman,
Speaker 2: spent about fifteen years in the NFL. He was here
Speaker 2: for about seven years, and at one point Carson Palmer
Speaker 2: said to Mike Brown, I'm done. I'm never going to
Speaker 2: set foot at Paul Brown Stadium again. He said, I
Speaker 2: have eighty million day in the bank. I don't want
Speaker 2: to play for the money. I play for the love
Speaker 2: of the game. I would rather play somewhere else, Trade
Speaker 2: me or else. Okay, that's number two, so Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: could become Andrew Luck which number one. Joe Burrow, by
Speaker 2: the way, turns sixty years old next year. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: turns thirty years old next year. And number two is
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer. That is, I don't want to I want
Speaker 2: to keep playing football, not here. Number three will win
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl in Cincinnati. Those are the three more
Speaker 2: likely to occur into what you attend to each We
Speaker 2: have first, we have Steve from Loveland and then Mike
Speaker 2: from Fairfield. Number to call is seven four nine, seven thousand,
Speaker 2: or pound seven hundred. My producer Dave will pick up
Speaker 2: the phone, listen to what you have to say.
Speaker 1: We're going to put him in order.
Speaker 2: If Dave picks up the phone and talks with you, you
Speaker 2: will get on the air and try to keep your
Speaker 2: comments right or wrong to about thirty seconds to a minute,
Speaker 2: so many voices must be heard. Dave Keaton, my executive producer,
Speaker 2: will make a call as to whether you get on
Speaker 2: or not. And Joe Burrow. One, he'll become Andrew Luck
Speaker 2: after six years, simply quit. Two he'll become Carson Palmer,
Speaker 2: want to stay in football? Demand of trade? Or number
Speaker 2: three he will win a super Bowl in the stripes.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve first, then we'll go to Mike
Speaker 2: and then thousands of others and Steven love him. The
Speaker 2: Home of the Tigers, and Steve welcome. I'm gonna make
Speaker 2: a note right here to send this to Dan Horde.
Speaker 2: What do you say one, two, three or some other comment.
Speaker 10: I'll say Taylor's got to go or Jack or Jill's gonna.
Speaker 4: Want to go.
Speaker 6: You think you think Zach Taylor Taylor shouldn't be calling
Speaker 6: the place he's been.
Speaker 2: Calling him for years. You don't think he calls the
Speaker 2: right place. Nope, I'm gonna put that down here. So
Speaker 2: you're voting for Zach Taylor to get a copy of.
Speaker 1: The home game.
Speaker 11: I think he needs to go or else Jill's.
Speaker 4: Going to want to go.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, we have your comments. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike and Fairfield, the home of the
Speaker 2: the and then Beth in Lawrenceburg, the home of the Speedway.
Speaker 2: Mike and Fairfield, the home of the Tigers. Give me
Speaker 2: a full report.
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 1: One, two, three or other?
Speaker 12: Other?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 13: Joe will win a Super Bowl within five years after
Speaker 13: Zack is gone.
Speaker 2: So there's two votes to get rid of Zach. So
Speaker 2: you see the problem is Zach Shuler also known as
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. The problem is not Joe Burrow. The problem
Speaker 2: is the leadership.
Speaker 4: Correct, all right?
Speaker 1: Did you go to the game, by the way and
Speaker 1: sit on those high sickles?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 1: If I gave you free tickets to a game, would
Speaker 1: you go?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go. Thank you very much. Let's continue now
Speaker 2: we have Let's go to Beth. I hear you calling
Speaker 2: from Lawrenceburg, and then the Weston and Indianapolis the home
Speaker 2: of Andrew Luck and Beth and Lawrenceburg.
Speaker 1: Give me a full report. What is your vote?
Speaker 12: My vote is number three? And could McPherson or get
Speaker 12: Zicky or somebody find Joe a nice because he just
Speaker 12: breaks my heart, he really does. But number three all
Speaker 12: the way, who Day?
Speaker 1: No, Amn, Beth.
Speaker 2: So you there's something about Joe Burrow that draws you in,
Speaker 2: and uh, it doesn't draw me in. But you think
Speaker 2: the ladies love Joe Burrow. He needs a good woman
Speaker 2: to settle down. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 12: That is exactly what I'm saying. That documentary on Netflix
Speaker 12: that showed him in his house right just playing the
Speaker 12: piano or getting bored, and he just he needs somebody
Speaker 12: in there with him to lift him up. And yes,
Speaker 12: who Day, But let's find Joe a nice girl.
Speaker 1: So, Beth, you will you want me to get Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow a girlfriend?
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, he needs he needs a lady in his
Speaker 12: life to help.
Speaker 2: No question about it. I mean, I you know, women
Speaker 2: are much better than men. I've always said that, Beth.
Speaker 2: Women are the women are the foundation of our society.
Speaker 2: Without women, men could not exist. And so if Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow had a distraction from thinking about football, of course
Speaker 2: he allegedly is dating a supermodel.
Speaker 1: I have her name here.
Speaker 12: But you know, all those all these ladies now, they're
Speaker 12: only in it for the money. And I that's why
Speaker 12: I say, let money mac or your nikky. Somebody fix
Speaker 12: him up. Surely their wives have a lady friend that
Speaker 12: they can hook up with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way it works today, because you have
Speaker 2: a friend dating somebody, and then the girl you're dating
Speaker 2: hooks up somebody else with another woman.
Speaker 1: I'm putting that down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell Dan Horde that you're saying, Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: needs a woman. Yes, very good comments. Thank you very
Speaker 2: much for your call. Let's go to Tim and Mason,
Speaker 2: the home of the transmitter, and then Weston and Indianapolis. Tim,
Speaker 2: give me a full report.
Speaker 10: Well, really, the full report is this, and I guess
Speaker 10: I'd go with other. I think as long as the
Speaker 10: Brown family owns the Bengals the Bungles, they're never going
Speaker 10: to win a Super Bowl. They're simply not willing to
Speaker 10: do what the other successful teams in the NFL do.
Speaker 10: Play and simple.
Speaker 2: I have a text here from Lincoln b Ware. Ever
Speaker 2: since Joe's been dating that model, his career has gone downhill.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Wasn't he with an
Speaker 2: influencer when his place was burglarized?
Speaker 10: He was originally with a very nice girl that he met,
Speaker 10: you know, years ago in Mason they were an item
Speaker 10: for a long time. I think she worked in Kroger
Speaker 10: or something. They went to Ohio State together. I wonder
Speaker 10: what happened to her. She was pretty, she was nice,
Speaker 10: but evidently, you know, you get a taste of the
Speaker 10: high life and you get all these chicks coming after.
Speaker 10: I mean, wasn't that one girl supposed to be in
Speaker 10: his house and was getting broken into or something?
Speaker 2: According to media accounts, the nicer Roguin gang was coming
Speaker 2: in the back window and she was in the front
Speaker 2: calling nine one one, having talked to her mother in
Speaker 2: New York City. This is a rather daffy woman who
Speaker 2: thinks nine to one one is in New York City
Speaker 2: and that wasn't a good situation. And Joe, I think
Speaker 2: it was playing football somewhere that night out of town
Speaker 2: and his home's burglarized stuff was tolen, and then the
Speaker 2: guys who stole it went on Facebook and put videos
Speaker 2: of them holding Joe Burrow stuff. Those weren't the sharpest
Speaker 2: knives in the you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: No, I think the curse of the Schnorf was on
Speaker 10: those goons. But you know the other thing is he
Speaker 10: needs to get in his batmobile and just go to
Speaker 10: an NFL city where he's going to be with an
Speaker 10: ownership that is willing to do what it takes to
Speaker 10: win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think he needs to get away a little bit.
Speaker 1: I like BET's idea.
Speaker 2: Find him a nice woman, a local woman, maybe working
Speaker 2: at Kroger, something like that would.
Speaker 1: Make some sense.
Speaker 10: I agree, Willie, as usual, You've got all the answers.
Speaker 2: God bless America. Let's continue with more. Let's go to
Speaker 2: Weston and Indianapolis. Hounds like a hotel and in Weston,
Speaker 2: give me a full report, all.
Speaker 4: Right, man?
Speaker 14: So first off, to mention Joe Burrow and Carson Palmer
Speaker 14: in the same sentence is disrespectful. They're not even in
Speaker 14: the same stratosphere. And Joe Burrow's not Andrew luck either.
Speaker 14: Andrew Luckton a love football. He played football on the side.
Speaker 14: Joe Andrew luck was not a football player.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a football player.
Speaker 14: He's a competitor and the guy wants nothing more to
Speaker 14: tend to win. The reason he's voice in his frustrations
Speaker 14: are because he's won at every level in his life
Speaker 14: and he's never ever had to do a lose like this,
Speaker 14: especially when he's played well, for the most part, Joe
Speaker 14: Burrow coming out and saying that stuff, he's never going
Speaker 14: to actually say something about, oh, we need to fire
Speaker 14: Zach Taylor, we need to make changes in the personnel department.
Speaker 14: But Joe Burrow coming out and voice and those frustrations
Speaker 14: is like that, that's what's gonna make him.
Speaker 1: That's what sorry, that is what.
Speaker 14: Is going to lead him to behind the scenes in
Speaker 14: the offseason, tell them to make changes.
Speaker 10: And Joe Burrow is going to win a Super Bowl
Speaker 10: in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Putting that down. I like that, Pop, I have hope
Speaker 2: in my heart that's number two. Win a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: here before he becomes Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, went to I think he went to
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game with the Cardinals having gone to
Speaker 2: the Raiders went to the Cardinals. But Joe's already done that.
Speaker 2: He's done that. He's spend the NFC Championship Game twice
Speaker 2: and he's won and one. And I think Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: has done He's got the ACL They had a good
Speaker 2: ten year run. But it's over all right now, Weston,
Speaker 2: I'm putting you down to win the Super Bowl, correct.
Speaker 1: God bless America.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Paul and Cleeves then don in thousands
Speaker 2: of others. Paul and kleif Eves, give me a full report.
Speaker 6: All right, Willy. What I think he needs to do
Speaker 6: is just like Carson Palmer did, walk into Mike Brown's office,
Speaker 6: put it on the put it on the table, and say, look,
Speaker 6: we're wasting talent, we're wasting time. Either you bony have
Speaker 6: some money or I'm out, and then take the money
Speaker 6: and run.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's tied to the Bengals for the
Speaker 2: next his contracts through twenty twenty nine, and he's he's owed,
Speaker 2: according to ESPN, about another two hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2: That's money even to you. And so this guy would
Speaker 2: have to walk away from two hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 2: That's like real money even even in your book.
Speaker 6: Yes, but he can actually want If he walks away
Speaker 6: from that money, maybe that will actually open the eyes
Speaker 6: of the ownership. Like they said, their scouting department is
Speaker 6: absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 6: You look at we're half the size of the majority
Speaker 6: of the teams in the NFL's has their scouting department
Speaker 6: half the size? We can't scout great talent or even
Speaker 6: good talent. Right now, you look at the last three
Speaker 6: drafts that we've had, and they I couldn't tell you
Speaker 6: where we even got some of these players.
Speaker 1: Well, i'll make your note. So your vote. What's of
Speaker 1: the three? Is he car? So you say he's going
Speaker 1: to become Carson Carson Palmer?
Speaker 6: He should be Carson Palmer. Walk right in the Mike
Speaker 6: Brown's office and put it all on the line.
Speaker 1: Does he need a girlfriend too, a good looking local girl.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, I mean that, I mean he needs a
Speaker 6: girlfriend just in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to relieve some tension. All right, Paul,
Speaker 1: thank you for your call.
Speaker 2: Let's continue now with Don and then Dan and millions
Speaker 2: of others, and don give me your analysis. What do
Speaker 2: the Bengals do? What does Joe Burrow do? The American
Speaker 2: people want to.
Speaker 4: Know, Willie.
Speaker 13: The Cincinnati Bengals are where Heisman Trophy winners careers go
Speaker 13: to die. Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow wasted their careers
Speaker 13: with this. With his team. Burrow's not going anywhere. He's
Speaker 13: going to ride it out until twenty twenty nine. He's
Speaker 13: not gonna win any Super Bowls. He might maybe get
Speaker 13: into a playoff game, but I doubt it because Mike
Speaker 13: Brown and the clowns running this team are gonna are
Speaker 13: gonna ruin his career and take.
Speaker 4: It away from him, just like they did.
Speaker 2: Carson Palmer throwing Archie Griffin. I think Cincinnati's had three
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winners. Am I missing one? Archie Griffin back
Speaker 2: to back, Carson Palmer and then Joe Burrow. If they
Speaker 2: had any other Heisman Trophy winners here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they just they Mike.
Speaker 13: Mike Brown ruins these players. He skims on everything he's got.
Speaker 13: He's got the two bad probably the two best receivers
Speaker 13: in in the NFL, in the best quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 13: and he's ruined them.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you for your call. We mark that down.
Speaker 2: We have Dan Rick and then Tony and that'll be
Speaker 2: it and Dan and Dayton the Home of the Gems.
Speaker 2: Give me a full report. You have about a thirty
Speaker 2: eight seconds one two, three or other.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 13: The only way that Joe Burrow wins the super Bowl
Speaker 13: in Cincinnati is if Mike Brown sells the teams that.
Speaker 2: It won't happen because the family's making about one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars a year in cash plus the team is
Speaker 2: worth about four billion dollars. Would you sell something worth
Speaker 2: four billion dollars and making one hundred million on the side?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how how old are they?
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Brown's ninety?
Speaker 4: You got all that money too.
Speaker 2: Mike Brown's ninety? Yeah, all right, thank you for your call.
Speaker 2: We got your vote. We got Rick and then Tony
Speaker 2: and that'll be it Rick and Western Hills, the home
Speaker 2: of Ron's roost. Rick, give me a full report.
Speaker 15: I think the Begos are going to win to's Super
Speaker 15: Bowl next year.
Speaker 1: And I really do you believe if they.
Speaker 15: Hire Bill Belichick as a general marriager and he can
Speaker 15: rebuild their defense and their offensive line to hire some
Speaker 15: joke yard dog type people. Yeah, he das you know,
Speaker 15: how to tackle people. And he's like his first round
Speaker 15: draft pick, you don't want to play because it's called
Speaker 15: for you all, are going to hurt himself?
Speaker 6: Well do i't?
Speaker 15: They put him on the kickoff team, so he learns
Speaker 15: how to tackle?
Speaker 1: Well, how so hard is.
Speaker 15: The learn out of a handle men? You know, young men?
Speaker 15: Half a billion dollars and what do they do? They
Speaker 15: play around and take it easy and they're not tough.
Speaker 1: You know, May I go to Canadian Football.
Speaker 15: League to grab some people who really want to tackle
Speaker 15: hard to break the Devin here.
Speaker 2: Make Bill Belichick the GM, and maybe John Gruden the coach.
Speaker 2: Last call Tony. So far we've got two two, got
Speaker 2: two three, two two and one and Tony from Cincinnati
Speaker 2: give me one two three or other?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 11: I'm in column three, Willie all the way.
Speaker 1: There's just a.
Speaker 11: Few decisions away from turning this thing around. Long as
Speaker 11: we have Burrow, it means the world. We just need
Speaker 11: to bring in a new coach, a new GM, turn
Speaker 11: things around, and it'll happen.
Speaker 13: I guarantee it.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: The majority of Bengals fans said the Bengals will win
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow. All we have is hope,
Speaker 2: keep hope alive. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW.
Speaker 16: And of course I'm going to say a few words
Speaker 16: about the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 16: So, and first, of course, as I always say, no
Speaker 16: matter what, go Bills.
Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots today.
Speaker 4: It's a big deal.
Speaker 12: Hello, Hello, Buiet, I'm.
Speaker 2: Broadcasting so Rocky, your friend Chuck Schumer just said go
Speaker 2: bills in reference to the Australian shooting of a fifteen
Speaker 2: Jews and forty other people.
Speaker 1: He said, go bills.
Speaker 2: Before we get to play that again, Dave, because I'm
Speaker 2: not sure the rock heard at all.
Speaker 16: Of course, I'm going to say a few words about
Speaker 16: the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia. Okay, So when first,
Speaker 16: of course, as I always say, no matter what, go bills.
Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots today.
Speaker 4: It's a big deal.
Speaker 17: So before he makes a statement on a pretty serious matter,
Speaker 17: he has go bills.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's running for real elections? Is do you have
Speaker 2: a concern? I have the flash poll right here, Rocky.
Speaker 2: Here are the results fire Away one, two, three, before
Speaker 2: we go to the segment, and four Joe Burrow Number one.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen next?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: One couch one Andrew Luck. Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2: After six years, you might recall your friend Andrew Luck
Speaker 2: missed an entire season, then he came back, took the
Speaker 2: Colts of the playoffs and said I don't want to.
Speaker 1: Do it anymore. I'm done.
Speaker 2: Number two Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer walks into Mike
Speaker 2: Brown's office and I can't take it anymore. I don't
Speaker 2: want to play football anymore. I'm not setting foot inside
Speaker 2: pay Cop anymore. Trey me, I'm not playing here anymore.
Speaker 2: Or three he wins the Super Bowl for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Is the only three I get. But the people have
Speaker 1: responded right there. I don't know if there's gonna be
Speaker 1: any of them.
Speaker 17: I don't see him winning a super Bowl next year,
Speaker 17: but I don't I don't know if I see him
Speaker 17: quitting next year.
Speaker 1: Hey, what do you see? I need an answer? Answer
Speaker 1: the question? You got one?
Speaker 4: Or three?
Speaker 1: Can I get a fourth option? You got a fourth?
Speaker 4: Say?
Speaker 1: Is there a fourth option? I don't know. Is there no?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: You gotta pick one. What's more likely to happen? Super
Speaker 2: Bowl win by Joe Burrow. He walks into Mike Brown's
Speaker 2: office Carson Palmers style and says, I can't take it anymore.
Speaker 2: Or he quits after six or seven years with fifty
Speaker 2: one hundred million in his pocket.
Speaker 17: I want to introduce a fourth option. Let me write
Speaker 17: it down, all right, let me ready.
Speaker 1: Which is finishes out?
Speaker 17: This season, has a little moving offseason, takes a deep
Speaker 17: breath and gets back to playing football.
Speaker 1: That's what I think we gotta call.
Speaker 2: Beth from Lawrenceburg says he needs a low coold girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Leave the influencers, lead.
Speaker 17: The runway girlfriend gal to cook, you know, and he's
Speaker 17: gonna take care of him and not be doing tiktoks
Speaker 17: all the time like half the Bengals wives and girlfriends do.
Speaker 1: They don't want to do that. It's just too much.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs somebody.
Speaker 17: I imagine his heart being him because he can't go
Speaker 17: out in public, right, so he can't. He has like
Speaker 17: sit in this house of his that he has and
Speaker 17: just kind of hang out by himself. He needs a
Speaker 17: good Midwestern woman, you know about you know, Sarah of her.
Speaker 17: That's I don't know if that would be a good idea.
Speaker 2: So he needs a homegrown she's married somebody like that.
Speaker 17: Yeah, a mount Notre Dame Saint Ursula Seaton.
Speaker 2: Did you see the Netflix special on him? I saw
Speaker 2: it at the end of Quarterback. Yeah, he's playing the
Speaker 2: panel by himself. He's lonely, staring into the abysses like
Speaker 2: you know, Zach used to stare into the abyss and
Speaker 2: so he needs a woman to occupy his time.
Speaker 1: Talents and get away from it. Whatever. That high school
Speaker 1: girlfriend that he had got rid of her.
Speaker 2: He got rid of and then then he got the
Speaker 2: got the influencer, the one that was there for the burglary.
Speaker 2: How did that work out? Kicked her out? Now he's
Speaker 2: with a runway model. I got her name here if
Speaker 2: you're interested.
Speaker 17: Yeah, strictly for research purposes.
Speaker 1: What's your name? First name is Jordan. Here we go
Speaker 1: just never ends.
Speaker 17: But it was a tough It was a tough day
Speaker 17: for the hometown team.
Speaker 1: Really, and you're up there sitting on a bag of
Speaker 1: home city ice.
Speaker 8: I mean, how many times are you shut out in
Speaker 8: your pro career with the Colts or Titans?
Speaker 1: Ever? Shut out?
Speaker 17: I can't remember getting shut out now.
Speaker 1: So do we figure out what happened? What was the
Speaker 1: reason the seats weren't clean? Was it a yes?
Speaker 17: A they thought somebody did it and they didn't do it.
Speaker 17: Be they didn't hire somebody to do it because they
Speaker 17: didn't want to pay them.
Speaker 1: Or see is there a C?
Speaker 4: Yeah or c?
Speaker 1: Did they just think it wasn't important? I don't care?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Did you see a lot they did?
Speaker 8: They did clean the uh entrance way to the to
Speaker 8: the gates and the aisleways and all that stuff. But
Speaker 8: apparently that's all you need to do in the NFL.
Speaker 17: But you couldn't get in half the other teams. I'm
Speaker 17: sure you saw the tweets and clear everything out. Yeah,
Speaker 17: you pay some was it? I guess the Eagles are
Speaker 17: the bills.
Speaker 8: They make twenty dollars an hour. You get free food
Speaker 8: and everything at a ticket. So again, did they a
Speaker 8: forget to do that? Be just say uh, hell with it?
Speaker 8: Because if they said, the hell with.
Speaker 17: It in today's world, and why did they not want
Speaker 17: to pay it?
Speaker 2: Well, the fans pay thousands of dollars and they can't
Speaker 2: sit there. And the Bengals pressure release said just brush
Speaker 2: the snow away? Where do you brush it? To the
Speaker 2: guy in front of you? The person next to froz
Speaker 2: See is frozen. What do you brush it? It's like, hey, peasant,
Speaker 2: eat some cake. I think there's people down there stuck
Speaker 2: to the seats.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they do that? What's your opinion? What's your opinion?
Speaker 1: How about today? I think they don't care. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of.
Speaker 8: One guy had a tweet said I got too hot chocolates.
Speaker 8: They were called ice cold. The one guy, the guy
Speaker 8: saying guy said, I got a beer it was frozen
Speaker 8: and all this stuff. And I've been I've been up
Speaker 8: back in this team since it began.
Speaker 1: They not think of it, or they think of it
Speaker 1: and going a hell of it. It'll be all right.
Speaker 1: Not any concession stands are open.
Speaker 2: Gets next time money in. You gotta get your money
Speaker 2: in already for twenty twenty six. Okay, get your money in,
Speaker 2: know your roll and shut your mouth.
Speaker 1: And secondly, Joe.
Speaker 17: I just wonder if the I sometimes think that the
Speaker 17: franchise operates under like a nineteen eighty five way of thinking,
Speaker 17: which is like we're, you know, paying somebody a certain
Speaker 17: amount of people a couple thousand dollars to clear it
Speaker 17: was like, that's not really great for the bottom line.
Speaker 17: But this is twenty twenty five. This is a multi
Speaker 17: billion dollar industry. This is not nineteen seventy five. We're like, God,
Speaker 17: if we got to you know, at times.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 18: You can talk to people anytime anywhere.
Speaker 2: See, he thinks telephones are just recently invented, and he's
Speaker 2: ninety years old. For God's sakes, He's not going to
Speaker 2: change his waist. He was born like an eighteen eighty five.
Speaker 17: But all the stuff they do, like like not having
Speaker 17: like having the smallest recruitings or draft evaluation staff. That's
Speaker 17: like a like a mid nineteen eighties way of thinking.
Speaker 18: Nice for that because we run with a lighter crew
Speaker 18: than some other teams do. But I don't know that
Speaker 18: we do badly there. We picked up Reggie Nelson this year.
Speaker 18: That's a pretty good acquisition.
Speaker 17: See, what what do most businesses do, whether they that
Speaker 17: are you know, say they're kind of mid tier. Usually
Speaker 17: what they do is they give a good what are
Speaker 17: the ones that are the ones that are on the top?
Speaker 1: But what are they? Okay, that's them a r What
Speaker 1: do they do? What are the three things they do?
Speaker 17: Now, if we're not doing those three things, we should
Speaker 17: do those three things and maybe one up the top.
Speaker 17: I mean, that's pretty that's what they do. That's what
Speaker 17: It's simple. You're making no sense at all.
Speaker 2: If you don't think you have a problem in your community,
Speaker 2: you're probably wrong.
Speaker 8: They give me some sports, will he The student reporters
Speaker 8: of Proud Service, every local Thamestar heating and air conditioning
Speaker 8: dealers thamestar quality could feel in Cincinnati, Coles Sheldon Braun
Speaker 8: at Braun heating at five one, three three eighty five
Speaker 8: seventy seven sixty five. I need something today college football
Speaker 8: Willie quarterback Brendan Soorsby got this one wrong, is opting
Speaker 8: out of the Liberty Bowl and has entered the trashy world.
Speaker 2: You're calling the game without without Soresby. I had him
Speaker 2: playing quarterback for the Bengals after about four weeks, and
Speaker 2: now he's going to get four million dollars playing for.
Speaker 1: Who say, whoever wants him. You see, he's been, he's been.
Speaker 8: Rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars by
Speaker 8: different schools, a couple of them in the Southeastern Conference.
Speaker 4: We would you do?
Speaker 1: Take the money and run?
Speaker 4: There you go?
Speaker 1: Please continue?
Speaker 8: Uh, let's see NFL news. Green Bay linebacker Michael Parsons
Speaker 8: it's all official. He is out for the rest of
Speaker 8: the season with a torn ACL yesterday and he faces
Speaker 8: a nine month recovery. Patrick Mahomes, who also has an
Speaker 8: ACL tear yesterday, will head for Dallas and get a
Speaker 8: second opinion from doctors. They say he may not be
Speaker 8: back until after the beginning of next season.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty seven, right, correct? So Rock your reaction.
Speaker 17: Why are these all these guys getting hurt? Are there
Speaker 17: too many games or not enough practice? What is it
Speaker 17: too much practice?
Speaker 1: Someone's got to be evaluated ACLS constantly.
Speaker 2: It's not like they practice a lot. Fuck to Dave
Speaker 2: Lapham about.
Speaker 17: Practice stand Yeah, they rocked practice, man. We're talking about
Speaker 17: practice man. So you you think with all these injuries,
Speaker 17: players are excited to add an eighteenth game to the season.
Speaker 1: They're excited. They're very excited. They can't wait. Yea't wait
Speaker 1: to get the game. Yeah, a lot of games.
Speaker 8: College Basketball AP Top twenty five Arizona one, Michigan two,
Speaker 8: Duke Is three, Produe is six, Louisville eleventh. Miami the
Speaker 8: ten and O RedHawks got four votes this week, up
Speaker 8: from two last week from two last week. They're thirty seventh,
Speaker 8: and Miami is just one of seven undefeated teams left
Speaker 8: in college basketball at the date.
Speaker 2: Couldn't coach at X He's coaching at Miami. Another question
Speaker 2: for you, Rock, who's in worse shape?
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore? There, that's it. How about how.
Speaker 2: About Wes Miller. Don't get me in this mess? Wes
Speaker 2: Wes Miller. How about Zach Shu Sharon is going to
Speaker 2: prison according to the sentencing guidelines?
Speaker 1: Is Zach Tannler going to prison? No? I don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: so good? You don't what to go to No, you
Speaker 1: don't want to go to prison? No, stay out of
Speaker 1: prison with his crown?
Speaker 2: Well, it was it was a lot of things like
Speaker 2: breaking into someone's home, what with his crawd, trying to
Speaker 2: beat the crap out of her?
Speaker 1: What was his wire fraud? And paying off witnesses? What
Speaker 1: his crime there? It is?
Speaker 2: I did my best. I can't convince him of anything.
Speaker 2: That's our good friend. Benjamin Crump. What was his crime?
Speaker 17: Lies?
Speaker 1: Speaks up? All right?
Speaker 17: So so you through the question to me and say
Speaker 17: about what Joe Burrow does next year?
Speaker 1: What do you say? Yeah? Why don't you answer the
Speaker 1: question for one question? Yeah?
Speaker 17: Caon Palmer, Andrew Locke or super Bowl? I think those
Speaker 17: three options. I think the super.
Speaker 2: Bowl is more likely. However, that's not likely. Would you
Speaker 2: agree or not?
Speaker 1: It's pretty tough surely for next year.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna turn down two hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars.
Speaker 1: Is that like a chunky No? And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's gonna quit. Joe Burrow, I think he's going to quit.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get through this season quick?
Speaker 15: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna play?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna play in the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: He's smart, He's gonna play.
Speaker 17: Get through the off season, gonna get away from it.
Speaker 17: Go to Tahiti with a couple of models and.
Speaker 1: Stuff, take away models. How about one girl. He's almost
Speaker 1: thirty years old. That's the time.
Speaker 2: Talk to his I like his mom and dad. Talk
Speaker 2: to mama and say, Mama, what should I do?
Speaker 17: He's a good Midwestern girl who doesn't have an ig
Speaker 17: account or a TikTok account and none that stuff. Just
Speaker 17: one thing. Have kids and take care of him and
Speaker 17: raise a family.
Speaker 1: That's what he needs. He used to have children.
Speaker 17: Knows that they know how to cook right and cook
Speaker 17: nice meals, create a nice home.
Speaker 1: That's what he needs. All he does is playing the
Speaker 1: pan and look at the Ohio river.
Speaker 17: Very lonely.
Speaker 1: He's a lonely man.
Speaker 17: I saw it a bit with with Peyton Man and
Speaker 17: he couldn't go out of his house. But he was
Speaker 17: like he was always playing at a high level. So
Speaker 17: wherever he went, people were like, you know, how about
Speaker 17: he couldn't go anywhere?
Speaker 2: You know Roy Orbison? Of course, only the lonely was
Speaker 2: he's singing about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is lonely. Needs
Speaker 2: a woman, a good woman, midwestern woman, good stock, thirty legs,
Speaker 2: broad hips.
Speaker 1: He had good shout bear and hips.
Speaker 17: That's what exactly, big hips, those skinny you know model.
Speaker 17: We need somebody with you know, give me yeah, only alone?
Speaker 2: Remember him? You liked him, didn't you know? He's the
Speaker 2: best big Oh he's the big old rock. What's on
Speaker 2: the big show today? Trying to get a little matchmaking here?
Speaker 2: He may have trouble meeting a woman. Is that possible?
Speaker 1: He has had a ship, and I don't think so.
Speaker 1: They'd they'd be lining up from him.
Speaker 17: He has trouble meeting the right woman because he's around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that he is. Only fans have no idea. He's
Speaker 1: on there all the time, only fans. I am.
Speaker 17: You should have an only fans account. Say sure, there's
Speaker 17: a market for that. Make a few extra bucks on
Speaker 17: the side side, hustle Sarah. Now if you got her
Speaker 17: on it, you probably would't make Some storms are brilliant
Speaker 17: her eyes. Believe me storms, what's on the big show?
Speaker 17: Rock Eddie and I are going to discuss the Bengals
Speaker 17: game yesterday, and we're going to take calls from people
Speaker 17: that were there. I want to know from versus mouth
Speaker 17: what happened.
Speaker 1: We need to know the story.
Speaker 17: How come the gates weren't open forty to fifty minutes
Speaker 17: before the game?
Speaker 2: I'll come as after the first quarter you couldn't move,
Speaker 2: You were stuck to the seat.
Speaker 1: You couldn't move. You leave your flesh on the seats.
Speaker 2: To hell with the fans and the crowd of paying
Speaker 2: the bills we already got ours. Is that it sad
Speaker 2: Get me out of never have your tongue s touched
Speaker 2: and it stuck on a metal pool. No seg give
Speaker 2: me out of the student's report only fans Willian Hotter
Speaker 2: of warmer days ahead. We leave you with the immortal
Speaker 2: words of the stewed report.
Speaker 16: If they keep going away, they're going I don't know
Speaker 16: what's going happen in our city.
Speaker 2: Sidely said that, and Sideley's laid down the law on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW