WEBVTT - 12-15-25 Bill Cunningham Show

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<v Speaker 1>By Billy cunning in the Great America.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome this Monday, after doing the Tri State bridget as

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<v Speaker 2>it is, by Wednesday is going to be rain and

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<v Speaker 2>about forty five or fifty degrees get through tonight tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>thing's going to be okay and things going to be

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<v Speaker 2>better except maybe on the field on the gridiron, except

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<v Speaker 2>here and there and everywhere. Mo Hagar, welcome again to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Mo like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you, Tony Pike, and el Mo and Lance

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<v Speaker 2>cover the Bengals better than the national ESPN Fox Sports crew,

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<v Speaker 2>would you agree or not?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we opine on the Bengals with a better

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<v Speaker 3>perspective than they do around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, when I monitor those events this morning, as I

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<v Speaker 2>do all the time, I have about seven TV sets

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<v Speaker 2>in my home. I monitor them all. I have all

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<v Speaker 2>the websites looking up, looking here. I'm being told by

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<v Speaker 2>the experts that the death knell of Joe Burrow's career

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<v Speaker 2>happened began in Buffalo, in which they were what ten

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<v Speaker 2>points up with about nine minutes to go, and then

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<v Speaker 2>lost easily because of Joe Burrow's interception for Tea for

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<v Speaker 2>a pick six and then the next one, and then

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<v Speaker 2>what happened yesterday, according to the experts, confirmed at all

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow Joe Burrow is done, He's been fully bengalized,

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<v Speaker 2>and Zach Shule has no idea what he's doing. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals is the worst sports organization in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's some soccer team in Holland that may

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<v Speaker 2>be worse than the Bengals, but the experts say none

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<v Speaker 2>of that is true. I'm going to ask you some

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<v Speaker 2>big questions later on MO about the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go before I get to the big questions, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're big questions. They're going to set you back in

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<v Speaker 2>your chair. Tell me what the hell happened yesterday at

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<v Speaker 2>Pey Course Stadium with Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens came to play.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end, I'm listening to Ravens players say we

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<v Speaker 2>just beat the s out of them and another player

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<v Speaker 2>for shout and they didn't want to play us.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to play us.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell the American people, the long suffering Bengals fans

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<v Speaker 2>who pay a quarter of a billion dollars in new

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<v Speaker 2>money to the Bengals whether the Bengals are in free

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<v Speaker 2>fall or it is just simply a mistake that will

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<v Speaker 2>get better maybe next week playing in Miami, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a live update.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk. Let's talk about yesterday. Yesterday, Please do talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I've heard people say the Bengals quit yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's accurate, because in order to quit something,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have started. From the opening kickoff. That

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<v Speaker 3>team looked like it didn't want to be there. That

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<v Speaker 3>team looked like whether it was because of the cold,

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<v Speaker 3>the opponent, the lack of high end stakes, other stuff

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<v Speaker 3>swirling around the team, whatever it is, that team yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>from the quarterback down looked completely checked out. In the

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<v Speaker 3>second half, I saw Joe Burrow go out of bounds

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<v Speaker 3>on a third down play instead of trying for the

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<v Speaker 3>first down. Now you might say, well, he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten it. Don't want Joe to play hero ball. The

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow that I know and love, the Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 3>who has given me a ton of highs as a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of this foot team, decided we're gonna punt the

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<v Speaker 3>football away instead of me trying to make a play.

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<v Speaker 3>In the second half of that game, Willie Bengals at

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<v Speaker 3>one point yesterday ran twenty seven consecutive offensive plays, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>seven consecutive offensive plays the Ravens. The Ravens didn't take

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<v Speaker 3>their first offensive snap in the fourth quarter until there

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<v Speaker 3>were two minutes and three seconds remaining. Now, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a pick six in the middle of all that. But

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<v Speaker 3>what did you see when you watch those twenty seven

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<v Speaker 3>plays unfold? You saw a team checked out. You saw

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<v Speaker 3>a team that gave up. You saw a team that

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<v Speaker 3>played with no urgency. You saw a team that was

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<v Speaker 3>not remotely interested in a last gasp effort to not

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<v Speaker 3>only win the game but save their season. They were huddling,

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<v Speaker 3>they were taking all sorts of time between plays. They

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<v Speaker 3>were dinking and dunking the ball down the field, they

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<v Speaker 3>were calling running plays. They were waving the white flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow was the quarterback of an offense yesterday that

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<v Speaker 3>waved the white flag. That to me, the big takeaway

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<v Speaker 3>from yesterday is that that team yesterday, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how you could say otherwise, that looked and felt

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<v Speaker 3>like a team that didn't want to be there in

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<v Speaker 3>a game that they absolutely had to win to even

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<v Speaker 3>maintain a shred of hope.

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<v Speaker 1>To make the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>What that says about Joe Burrow, What that says about

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<v Speaker 3>Zach Taylor, What that says about the overall state of

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<v Speaker 3>the organization, whatever it says, None of it's any good.

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<v Speaker 1>Who had a worst day?

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals on the field are the Bengals management.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the field?

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<v Speaker 2>I got other questions coming, though, but I'm thinking long

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<v Speaker 2>suffering Bengals fans paying tens of thousands of dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>sit on several bags of home city ice for hours

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<v Speaker 2>to watch that boose egg?

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<v Speaker 1>Who did Who did the worst job? The Bengals on

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<v Speaker 1>the field are the Bengals off the field?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you might argue you both did the bare minimum.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the seats yesterday at the stadium. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>as a season ticket holder, I did not go yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>The weather had nothing to do with it. The team

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<v Speaker 3>performance had nothing to do with it. My daughter had

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<v Speaker 3>a basketball game. I chose to watch her play instead

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<v Speaker 3>of go to the Bengals game. But I love going

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<v Speaker 3>to Bengals games. The Bengals, I think yesterday did the

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<v Speaker 3>minimum that the NFL expects teams to do in their snow.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they satisfied their baseline requirement when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to snow removal and handling of the snow. But you

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<v Speaker 3>have a choice. You have a choice if you run

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<v Speaker 3>a business, you have a choice. If you work at

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<v Speaker 3>a business, you have a choice sometimes with your circle

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<v Speaker 3>of family and friends, to do the bare minimum or

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<v Speaker 3>go above and beyond. The Bengals had a choice yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>to do what was required or go above and beyond

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<v Speaker 3>to make your guests feel welcome and comfortable. Guests that

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<v Speaker 3>paid good money and sat through arctic temperatures to watch

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<v Speaker 3>what has been this season for the most part, and

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<v Speaker 3>inferior product.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>They could choose to do the bare minimum, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think they did, or they could choose to go above

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<v Speaker 3>and beyond to make their guests as comfortable as possible

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<v Speaker 3>in very uncomfortable circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>So if someone's heading to their seats, they got six

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<v Speaker 2>inches of ice and snow. The Bengals email last night

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<v Speaker 2>said they could have called an usher and just shoot

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<v Speaker 2>away the ice and just pull it off. Where do

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<v Speaker 2>you put the ice? The seat in front of you,

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<v Speaker 2>the seat to your left, your right. The Bengals fans

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<v Speaker 2>had no option but to sit there acting like they

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<v Speaker 2>were in an igloo somewhere north of Nantucket. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>Mo?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I do again, what they did probably satisfies the NFL's

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<v Speaker 3>requirement as it relates to hndling snow. I think if

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<v Speaker 3>you run a business, if you have guests, if you

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<v Speaker 3>have customers, you can do everything you can to ensure

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<v Speaker 3>their comfort, or you can't, and the Bengals chose not to.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I will also say this, I think had the Bengals

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<v Speaker 3>taken the field yesterday with a record of ten and

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<v Speaker 3>three instead of four and nine, nobody would be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about snow. But in Philadelphia yesterday the Eagles played a game.

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<v Speaker 3>There was lots of snow in the seats, and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw pictures of the seats for the most part having

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<v Speaker 3>been that didn't happen yesterday at the venue originally known

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<v Speaker 3>as Paul Brown Stadium. And again, if you want to say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they did what they were supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine, And maybe you don't think they deserve criticism

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<v Speaker 3>for not going above and beyond. If it's me, I

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<v Speaker 3>want my guests, my customers who have paid me very

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<v Speaker 3>very very hard earned money to sit in the cold.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go out of my way.

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<v Speaker 3>I would ensure that my organization went out of its

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<v Speaker 3>way to ensure that our guests were as comfortable as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>And for me, that would have would have involved having

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<v Speaker 3>my customers not wipe the snow off their seats. But again,

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<v Speaker 3>I do think this, if the Bengals were ten and three,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody would care. Now, So there's that. Then there is

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<v Speaker 3>the performance on the field. The performance on the field yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you were being fair if you thought, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, this is going to be a desperate team,

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<v Speaker 3>a team that is heating the call of its quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>who is clearly not happy and clearly not having a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot of fun right now. It's a team that

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<v Speaker 3>has faint playoff hopes, but still playoff hopes. And now

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<v Speaker 3>what if you beat the Baltimore Ravens, maybe the door

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<v Speaker 3>cracks open just a little bit. They had just beaten

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<v Speaker 3>this team seventeen days prior. They are playing at home,

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<v Speaker 3>They do have Joe Burrow, They came into the game

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<v Speaker 3>at least offensively, at least a little healthy. What I

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<v Speaker 3>saw yesterday was not an urgent team. It was not

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<v Speaker 3>a desperate team. It was a team that can't wait

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<v Speaker 3>for the season to end. That doesn't reflect poorly on

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<v Speaker 3>the coach, doesn't reflect it doesn't reflect well on the players,

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<v Speaker 3>and it doesn't reflect well on really anybody. Haven't had

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<v Speaker 3>anything to do with the organization. All right, mo I

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<v Speaker 3>want to ask you a big question. Are you prepared?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Which entity or person is in the worst shape?

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<v Speaker 4>We go?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Miller time and maybe Zach Miller is not the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we say it is Wes Miller. He's related to

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<v Speaker 2>Wes Miller and Wes Miller and East Miller. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>the best. But Bearcout basketball team is not shall we say,

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<v Speaker 2>in great shape? Would you agree Bearcout basket struggling? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one. Number two is Zach Taylor, also known as

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Shuler, who is calling the plays, responsible for game preparation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm responsible for the formation directly or indirectly with Duke

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<v Speaker 2>Tobin for the players selected. Number three is Sharon Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>the ex coach of Michigan who's looking at a hard

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<v Speaker 2>time daddy, having asked the services of OnlyFans model during

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<v Speaker 2>a halftime when I think during the High Stay game

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<v Speaker 2>he had his mind somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have, on.

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<v Speaker 2>One hand, we have Wes Miller, Bearcut Basketball, then we

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<v Speaker 2>got Zach Shuler aka Zach Taylor. Then we have Sharon

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<v Speaker 2>Moore and the Michigan situation. Where would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>be in charge to handle Wes Miller, Zach Shuler or

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<v Speaker 2>Sharon Moore situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Where would you like to be in charge?

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<v Speaker 3>I would not like to be in charge of the

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon Moore situation because that involves criminal charges and lots

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<v Speaker 3>of really icky.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff that have not so much much to do with football.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon Moore that that situation, you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of sadness to that inechegable. His children and wife I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think signed up for what he is dragging them through,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I view that through a lens of sadness,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is somebody who has abandoned the responsibility he

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<v Speaker 3>had to his family and others, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 3>feel for those players who play for him. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>for players who have committed to play for the University

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<v Speaker 3>of Michigan who are going to be the collateral damage

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<v Speaker 3>in something that they're not at fault.

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<v Speaker 1>For football, get the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Wes Miller is in a world of trouble right now.

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<v Speaker 3>His team has lost four games. They have a very

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<v Speaker 3>difficult game against Clemson on Sunday in South Carolina, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they play in the Big Twelve. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if folks don't follow college basketball very closely, there

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<v Speaker 3>are six or seven Big Twelve teams that have NBA

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<v Speaker 3>dudes up and down their roster. I watched the Arizona

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<v Speaker 3>Wildcats play on Saturday night. That is the best performance

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen by any team this season. They ran Alabama

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<v Speaker 3>off the floor in a game played in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Alabama. Bearcats play them on January the twenty first.

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<v Speaker 3>I think even Wes would be the first to tell

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<v Speaker 3>you year five, the expectation was make the NCAA tournament,

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<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately, it is really hard to envision Cincinnati on

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<v Speaker 3>Selection Sunday having a chance to have its name called.

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<v Speaker 3>And if it's not, I think Wes would tell you

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<v Speaker 3>that the expectation for most is that there's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a coaching change. I think was Zach Taylor the

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<v Speaker 3>one thing And I've said this to you for six

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<v Speaker 3>and a half years. I've never watched a Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>team and thought the players have quit or the players

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<v Speaker 3>aren't prepared. Now he's had. You know, you might say

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<v Speaker 3>play calling issues at times. That doesn't bother me so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there have been personnel issues that he's not responsible for.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay. But at the end of the day, whether

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals have been good or whether they've been not good,

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<v Speaker 3>when Zach Taylor has been the coach, I've always thought, boy,

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<v Speaker 3>the team plays for him, the team plays hard. Effort's

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<v Speaker 3>not an issue here. Preparation really isn't an issue here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday I saw a team that was not prepared. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a team that's effort was compromised. I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>team that did not want to be there, and that

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<v Speaker 3>reflects very poorly on the coach. I am more than

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<v Speaker 3>willing and have for six and a half years, more

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<v Speaker 3>than willing to give Zach Taylor credit for things then

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think others do. I think getting Joe Flacco

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<v Speaker 3>up to speed this year is a credit to Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost all the games, but you know they played hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he got Joe Flack already.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think the Bengals winning playoff games when

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<v Speaker 3>they had the game plan behind an awful offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>to a large degree, reflects.

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<v Speaker 1>Really good coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Zach Taylor getting Jake Browning ready to play

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<v Speaker 3>and win two years ago but he had never played before.

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<v Speaker 3>Credit to Zach Taylor. I think Zach Taylor getting Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow ready to play his first NFL game without a

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<v Speaker 3>preseason with the COVID training camp. Credit to Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've never been one of these folks that just

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<v Speaker 3>gratuitously wells away at Zach Taylor whenever anything goes wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with the Cincinnati Bengals. But against Pittsburgh a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>many accused players on the defensive quitting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe that was a one off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday I saw a team that didn't quit because it

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<v Speaker 3>never started. It didn't want to be there. It looked

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<v Speaker 3>checked out mentally and physically. That reflects very poorly on

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach. And I think you're being completely reasonable

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<v Speaker 3>if you wonder if that same look is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be evident over these last three games, and if it is,

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<v Speaker 3>then I think you have to very very very seriously

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<v Speaker 3>wonder whether or not you can move forward with this

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<v Speaker 3>head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, about a minute remaining mo we have to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to the commercials. But your experts in ESPN said

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, I don't know if this is Zach. You

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<v Speaker 2>might know that Joe Burrow's contract is not guaranteed next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was five years due seventy five million,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at this as a cap hit like

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five million, and it says zero guaranteed for next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow has signed a deal five years, two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy five mil. Two hundred and nineteen million of

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<v Speaker 3>it is guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>Two ninety and let's call it two twenty two nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>So the overwhelming majority of that money is is guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow will be the quarterback of the Bengals next year.

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<v Speaker 3>And I saw your tweet and I took you to

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<v Speaker 3>test for this because Joe had his comments the other day, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so this is this is what bothers me about

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<v Speaker 3>some of the reaction to Joe Burrow and what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, let's be honest. He said what he said,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he played arguably his worst game ever. Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>pick a very good Sunday to play his worst game. Ever,

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<v Speaker 3>but one of the common although I think misdirected complaints

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<v Speaker 3>about athletes is they don't care enough about winning because

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<v Speaker 3>of the money they make. Here, you have a guy,

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<v Speaker 3>say what you want about him. Winning matters to him,

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<v Speaker 3>The success matters to him, His reputation as a quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>matters to him, and we tell him the shut up,

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<v Speaker 3>be happy with the money you're making.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have it both ways.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't tell these guys, well, you don't care enough

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<v Speaker 3>about winning because.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're overpaid.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when they care so much about winning that

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<v Speaker 3>it's affecting them publicly, you can't say, shut up, you're

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<v Speaker 3>making too much money to care about winning.

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<v Speaker 1>That well, which one do we want it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to answer that question, but we'll ask

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<v Speaker 2>you one more question, please. According to ESPN, Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>is more likely to become Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is it. I'll frame it this way. Since you

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<v Speaker 1>won't answer my question, I want to answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>What is more likely to happen right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow wins a Super Bowl over the next four

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<v Speaker 3>years while he's under contract with the Bengals, or he

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<v Speaker 3>chooses to do what Carson Palmer did, or he chooses

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<v Speaker 3>to do what Andrew Luck did. Now, you might say,

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<v Speaker 3>odds are he's not going to do what Carson did.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair. Yep, odds are he's not going to do

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<v Speaker 3>what Andrew Luck did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>But our odds are that Joe Burrow's gonna win a

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl here over the next four years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh feels like they're very far away from that.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that's the question because I do not lead

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<v Speaker 3>to the conclusion that he's gonna do what Carson did.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, what Carson did I was okay with.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in the minority. Then fourteen years later, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in the minority now. Andrew Luck made a deeply personal

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<v Speaker 3>decision because of the accumulation of injuries. I don't gather

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<v Speaker 3>that Joe Burrow just rushed his ass back to come

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<v Speaker 3>back and play for this team that was going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not led to believe that he's gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>what Andrew Luck did. But okay, the only way that

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow era is deemed a success is if they

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<v Speaker 3>win a championship, which at the end of the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty one season, I think a lot of his

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<v Speaker 3>thought was maybe not an inevitability, but at least there

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<v Speaker 3>a very very strong possibility now with their roster issues,

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<v Speaker 3>with the track record in the draft, as abysmal as

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<v Speaker 3>the defense has been, are they gonna win a championship

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<v Speaker 3>over these next four years? Because even if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>pull a Carson, even if he doesn't pull it Andrew Luck,

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't win while he's the face of the franchise,

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<v Speaker 3>then who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>Right then it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the question. You might not think he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to do a Carson. You might not think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do an Andrew Luck. That's fine. Can this franchise, can

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<v Speaker 3>this front office, can this coaching staff get Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 3>to a place where his talents are good enough? And

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<v Speaker 3>they certainly weren't on this play yesterday, but Joe Burrow's

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<v Speaker 3>talents are good enough to get this team a Lombardi

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<v Speaker 3>Trophy for the first time ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you credit, Moe. You answered my question, I

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<v Speaker 2>went on answer yours. I'll lay that upon the table

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<v Speaker 2>for bengledem thoughtful considerations. Mo Hager, once again, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on the Bill Cunningham Show on this very cold

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<v Speaker 2>and windy Monday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very.

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<v Speaker 3>Much, Thank you Willie, and thank you for my hot

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<v Speaker 3>folks Sunday last week. It was only twelve and a

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<v Speaker 3>half months overdue.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue with more news next You're home in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLO with the music Russ Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>Many leave, but many return. Good to have him back

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<v Speaker 2>on the board. Do your We'll see what happens down

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<v Speaker 2>the road. And secondly, you heard mommo talk about the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Know your roll and shut your mouth. It's the way

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<v Speaker 2>things are. You either accept it and move on. Why complain?

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<v Speaker 2>Why moan? Why act as if things could be better,

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<v Speaker 2>because they could be, but they're not going to get better.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there's many NFL teams not dissimilar to the Bengals. Heck,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the Cleveland Browns. For God's sakes, would you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a Browns fan? Or New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in turmoil. Of course, they won a couple three

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowls. But how about the Las Vegas Raiders? How

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<v Speaker 2>bad are they? They've only won two games? And talk

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<v Speaker 2>to my friends in Vegas. They love having the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>They're likely going to love having a baseball team there.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless it's the way things are. There's many a

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<v Speaker 2>large and small cities that are in a similar situation

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<v Speaker 2>as the Bengals are in with lowsy management and with

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<v Speaker 2>no concern for the fans, and they make billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So know your roll and shut your mouth, get on

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<v Speaker 2>your costumes, get on your paint, run around like you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Give lots of money to the Bengal organization. And when

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<v Speaker 2>they don't sweep the streets and when they don't handle

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<v Speaker 2>the bowl of the stadium, you have to go in

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<v Speaker 2>and sit on a home city ice bag for several hours.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's coming. So accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, one of the great sayings in life,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, is may God give me the strength

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<v Speaker 2>to change the things I can change. May God give

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<v Speaker 2>me the courage to accept the things I can change,

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<v Speaker 2>and the patience to know the difference. And at this

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<v Speaker 2>point you have a ninety year old owner who's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to change his ways, and there's no general manager

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<v Speaker 2>for the ball club. You have Duke Tobin, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>player development guy, and he picks, he picks all the

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<v Speaker 2>recipes for the disaster that you saw yesterday, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not likely to get better. And I kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the last question mode laid upon the table. What is

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to occur? That is, or is Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>going to lead the Bengals to a Super Bowl win?

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<v Speaker 4>Or?

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<v Speaker 2>Secondly, would Joe Burrow become Andrew Locker. Thirdly, would Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow become Carson Palmer. Those are the three issues, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure which one is more likely at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but whatever it is, it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>have an NFL team here, even a bad one with

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<v Speaker 2>horrible management and an ownership that is worth now a billions.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were a billionaire and the peasants gave you

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of money, would you really care what

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<v Speaker 2>the peasants think. You're a billionaire. If it don't like it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take my franchise and go somewhere else and get

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<v Speaker 2>my billions of dollars. So dress up, put on the

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<v Speaker 2>silly costumes, come yell, holler, and shout, and know every

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<v Speaker 2>now and then, every thirty years or so, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>might be good. They were good with Kenny Anderson and

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<v Speaker 2>then slid back into the Abyss. They were good with

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<v Speaker 2>boomer size and slid back into the abyss and they

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<v Speaker 2>were good with Joe Burrow slid back into the abyss.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way this is. The last three years.

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<v Speaker 2>The efficiency of the Bengals offensive line is thirtieth in

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<v Speaker 2>the league out of thirty two. I like to know

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<v Speaker 2>who the other two teams are, and it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to change. The defense is not going to change. Duke

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<v Speaker 2>Tobin picks the players, Mike Brown nods, and I assume

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Sual has some input and away you go.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Secondly, I spoke this morning to the Supreme Court Justice

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph T and t Eaters, and to indirectly to Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Meyer. I talked to Mark pete Meyer about four

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<v Speaker 2>days ago. Mark pete Meyer was the trial attorney for

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<v Speaker 2>Edward Jones and Elwood was freed in a sense by

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<v Speaker 2>the current Hemny County prosecutor. And we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>that matter up on Wednesday for about an hour sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and there will be Justice Joe Dieters. He's taken

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<v Speaker 2>off his black robe with the permission of the Chief

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<v Speaker 2>Sharon Kennedy. He's going to talk about the Elwood Jones case,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the murder of Rhoda Nathan and then

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Pete Meyer. When you see the old video from

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago, Mark Pete Meyer was the trial attorney

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<v Speaker 2>for the Prosecutor's office standing next to Elwood Jones, who

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Way was a career criminal. Did you has anyone

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<v Speaker 2>reported on the fact Prosecutor's office told me he served

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<v Speaker 2>at least two stints in prison for burglaries.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Elwood when he when he murdered rote To Nathan was

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.719
<v Speaker 2>about forty forty one years old, and he was in

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the business of using his pass key to go and

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:25.919
<v Speaker 2>go into the rooms of customers who had left to

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.199
<v Speaker 2>go down to the buffet line, and he would go

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.800
<v Speaker 2>through the rooms quickly with his pass key and steal

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 2>certain items unbeknownst to him. He stole the item around

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 2>rode To Nathan's neck, which was the diamond brooch, the

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 2>necklace that eventually got him convicted of murder in front

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 2>of a jerry here in Hamlin County. And so the

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<v Speaker 2>two issues raised by Countie Pillach are a non sequitur.

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<v Speaker 2>One was well, after all, rode To Nathan had hepatitis

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 2>B and doctors believe that if you're if you get

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 2>punched in the mouth, you're going to convey to the

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 2>other person who's punched you hepatitis B. Well, that could happen.

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, it may not happen. It's like

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.679
<v Speaker 2>being in a room with somebody with the flu. You

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.959
<v Speaker 2>may catch it or you may not. It's not a

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>certainty that if someone as hepatitis B and a fist

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 2>hits your mouth so hard your teeth go into your stomach,

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 2>that necessarily it is always true that the person doing that,

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Elwood Jones, would get hepatitis B.

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<v Speaker 1>It could happen. On the other hand, it may not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other issue was in a sense that they

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 2>got the wrong guy and that the prosecutor's office didn't

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>turn over certain information. And Mark Petemeyer, who actually was

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 2>the guy turning over the information, will be here on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday to talk about what he provided and how certain

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 2>he is that Elwood is guilty of murdering wrote to

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Nathan and by the way and Jerry and Hamblin. The

0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 2>county in nineteen ninety five convicted him at that time

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>first degree murder, also known as aggravated murderwaw committing a felony,

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 2>which was a burglary, and they saw all the evidence,

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 2>all the case, and they found him guilty. The case

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 2>went to the First District Court of Appeals. The arguments

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.199
<v Speaker 2>raised recently by the defense team was heard by the

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>First District Court of Appeals. They said, Elwood, you're guilty.

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 2>The case then went to the High Supreme Court death

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<v Speaker 2>penalty case must be fully reviewed by the High Supreme Court.

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>By the way, this takes years. And they looked at

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>all the evidence and said, Elwood, you're guilty.

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>You did it.

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Another this burglary for him went bad. Then it went

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 2>to Federal District Court Judge Carl Ruben, etc. He looked

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 2>at all the evidence with his law clerks and said, Elwood,

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>you did it. Then it went to the sixth Circuit

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>US Court of Appeals, which is headquartered in Cincinnati, but

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.360
<v Speaker 2>it handles Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, Elwood, you did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then over the years, more cases were filed in various courts,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 2>and every I think the numbers twenty to twenty five

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 2>judges have all said that Edwood Jones murdered. Wrote to

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Nathan that this issue. But hepatitis B is not this

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>positive one way or another, and the information turned over

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 2>or not turned over was not exculpatory and it would

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 2>have provided no available defense not otherwise available. So in

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 2>other words, Edward Jones got complete justice and now the

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>system when I know Sloany this morning had on somebody

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 2>about the death penalty briefly on that Mike DeWine has

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>not signed one death penalty warrant and is not likely

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to do it in his last year. The next governor,

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 2>vivek Ramaswami and or Amy acting God forbid, is likely

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>to take the same approach. So Joe Dieters has said

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>many times, the prosecutors have said to me many times,

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 2>if you don't want the death penalty, that's okay, saves

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>us a lot of work. But if you have a

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 2>death penalty, that's the law, and this case applies to

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 2>get the death penalty, then it's up to prosecutor's office

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 2>to follow his oath and seek.

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>The death penalty.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>What happened in Claimont County with that man who killed

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>his three sons When the prosecutor out there said, I

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>don't want to try a death penalty case, we'll take

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>life in prison without possibility of parole. If that guy

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't get the death penalty for murdering cold blood his

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 2>three little boys, there shouldn't be a death penalty. I

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>have no problem with that because it's so infrequently applied

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to the most vicious of offenses. But please, if you

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to try a death penalty case, which Connie

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Pelly seeming to doesn't want to try one, that's okay.

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>But in the process of deciding not to try Elwood again,

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<v Speaker 2>simply say, look, he's done thirty years in prison and

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna get the death penalty anyway, I'm gonna

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna try him again.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll let him go. Just say that.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>But in the process, don't act as if Mark Petemeyer

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>and Joe Dieters either didn't know what they were doing

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>or purposely conjured up evidence to convict an otherwise innocent

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 2>man of arible murder. Because that's wrong. That's really wrong.

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>No one can explain how this specialized necklace around Rooda

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Nathan's neck found its way into the toolbox of Elwood Jones,

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 2>because that little piece of the puzzle, you know, like

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>CSI Styalue you try to say, how does this piece fit?

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't fit at all. Also in the.

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Toolbox was a pass key and also some chain links

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>from doors, and also the actual necklace worn around the

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 2>neck of Rhoda Nathan. There were hundreds of photos taken

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>at the scene and the necklace was missing, and everyone assumed, well,

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 2>the murderer took it. Well, they were right. The murderer

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>took it and it was in his possession when the

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>police got a search worn and found it inside Elwood's

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>own toolbox. Can you explain how that got there? Well,

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the answer is the murderer put it there. And the

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 2>only time anyone has ever tried this case in Hamleton

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 2>County to get a verdict, the verdict was guilty as

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>charged by that jury. You might recall that a recent

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>trial judge, liberal Democrat, when you cross very liberal Democrat,

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>granted Elwood a new trial and she barred from evidence

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.119
<v Speaker 2>the testimony of any dead witness. How the cops in

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Blue Ash largely are dead right now and they can't testify.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>So simply say, look, it's difficult to retry the case,

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and that el would receive justice by serving thirty years

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>in jail for a murder, having already served years in

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>jail for burglaries before he killed Rode to Nathan. According

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>to prosecutor Joe Eaters and Mark Petmeyer, I'm going to

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.479
<v Speaker 2>conclude the case. Here's the thirty years. See, you wouldn't

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 2>want to be you. Just do that, Connie, just say

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, but don't go out the door kicking Mark

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Petemeyer and Joe Eaters and the groin in the neck.

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Don't go out the door blaming the for a bad

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 2>prosecution when every judge has looked at it, other than

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>a recent Liberal Democratic judge said that Ellwood was guilty.

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Just do that.

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Do your job without demeaning other people. So those who

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 2>have been demeaned will be here on Wednesday between twelve

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty and one thirty to describe what happened with Elwood Jones.

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Mark Petemeyer is the best trial prosecutor in the history

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of the state of Ohio. In fact, the governor and

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 2>others appointed him to try cases outside of Hamilton County,

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>like in Lucasville. When this ride's taking place, let's look

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>around Ohio and find out of the two or three

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>thousand prosecutors, who's the best. Well that's Mark Petemeyer, all right,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>we get him. And he was in Hamilton County for

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>like forty years. On top of that, Joe Dieters is

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>the longest serving prosecutor the history of Hamlet County. He

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 2>only took death penalty cases to trial when he was certain,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>not well beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant committed

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the murder. In every court that's ever looked at it

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>for thirty years said exactly the same thing, except a

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>brand new had never been on the bench, liberal Democratic

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>judge who wanted to free a black man for killing

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.479
<v Speaker 2>of a white woman. And she happened to find the

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>case of Elwood Jones and rode to Nathan and she

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>did what she did. And that's fine if you want

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>to play that game, that's good. Every urban county in

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>America has gone the way of Hamilton County. In the

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>city of Cincinnati, this is not unusual. You can't get

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>much justice in Chicago or Memphis, or New York City

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>or LA for God's sakes, but at least if you

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>want to do that, simply dismissed the case. He served

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty years, and I can't put the new case on

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>because the judge has barred me from putting on testimony

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>of dead witnesses. Therefore, I'm going to I'm gonna let

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Elwood out o R bond from death row. That's fine,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>but going out the door. Don't blame Mark eat Meyer

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and Joe Eaters for what you want to do. Let's continue.

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>That'll be on Wednesday, I think, along with Senator John Houston.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>So there we go. Let's continue with more. After one

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>o'clock today, we're going to call Steve Gooden, attorney in

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the tri State, about the eight point one million dollars

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 2>given to the criminals, the protesters who violated misdemeanor laws,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and now they're going to make ten to twenty thousand

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars each for that and so much more. And after

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock today I'll lay upon the table an important

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>question for your consideration is jo is Joe Burrow not

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Joe Eaters. Is Joe Burrow number one more likely to

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 2>win his Super Bowl in the next five years? Number

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>two become Andrew Luck. So many injuries I quit or

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>number three Carson Palmer. I want to keep playing football,

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I just can't do it here. That would be laid

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>upon the table for your considerations after two o'clock twelve

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty five, Homi your reds and God bless Mark Pete

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Meyer and Joe Eaters on news Radio seven hundreds ww

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>B Billy cunning him the Great America. That's the story

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>last week that Irish Rollie w came out with me

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>about a month ago. And by the way, I do

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>not blame Iris ROLEI that the city wants to give

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>you six hundred thousand dollars plus plus plus. Most Americans

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>would say thank you, Sir. May have another absolutely about

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>her getting that kind of money from the city having

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>solved criminal problems. And secondly, the cities also agreed to

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>eight point one million dollars to the misdemeanor criminals who

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 2>committed offenses of public trespassing. More that were given ten

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>to twenty thousand dollars each. And I'm gonna ask Steve

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 2>good In the attorney about whether citizens like him can

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>object to the city spending his money in this way.

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Is Steve Gooden, Attorney, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And Steve, first of all, let's deal with Iris Roy.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I watched this public affair situation over the weekend with

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Curtis Fuller of Channel five. His guests were Adam Interim

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Chief Adam Henny and Iris Roley and some assistant city manager.

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I tried to see what they were saying, but they

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>were words untethered to reality. I'm not sure what they

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>were saying other than, man, we're working hard and this

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>city is so much safer than it's spend in a

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 2>long time. Life is good. And then I read about

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>all the shootings and things of that character. So give

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>me your sense of paying Iris Roly six hundred thousand

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>dollars plus and whether that's money well spent, well.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 4>It's definitely not money well spent.

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 5>It's just this is how this city hall does patronage, right,

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, back in the old days, in the nineteen twenties,

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 5>the Boss Cock stage, you would hire your buddies.

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 4>To jobs at the city. Now you know that's been

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 4>outlawed by the charter. So now you'd hire.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 5>Independent contractors and nonprofits. And that's how you funnel your

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 5>money to your political supporters. Iris was the number one

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 5>political activist for the mayor over the last several years.

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 5>She personally went after his opponents, went after a city

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 5>council candidate. She didn't like she is exempt from all

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 5>the ethics laws because she's not an actual city employee.

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 5>So then two days after the election or three days

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 5>after the election, they give her six hundred thousand dollars

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 5>allegedly it's.

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 4>For our anti violence efforts.

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 5>It looks to all the world to me to be

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 5>for her political advocacy. And I'll tell you, as a

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 5>guy who has an office right by Government Square, remember

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 5>she was being paid to clean up and reduce violence

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 5>on Fountain Square and Government Square, in part by passing

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 5>out sandwiches and food packets to the kids who hang

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 5>around that bus stop. It was a total failure. The

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 5>city still had to lean on Sorta and Metro to

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 5>move and re route half those bus lines. That's the

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 5>only thing that moved it. We still ended up with

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 5>two shootings either on or near Fountain Square in business hours,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 5>and still ended up with SWAT teams to have to

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:56.760
<v Speaker 5>secure it. So whatever she did there was a failure.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 5>But she's still getting paid, And if you ask me,

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 5>it's clearly because of all the politics and other stuff

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 5>that she did during this time period. It's just patron

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 5>It's plain and simple, but it's kind of masked and

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 5>looking like it's something else. But you know right now,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 5>the citizens, you know, there's no one on there to complain.

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 5>And the fact that if it was so legitimate, why

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 5>did they wait till two days after the election.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 4>To jam it through.

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, obviously in the good old days, patronage

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 2>was you hire, like in the Sopranos, your buddies and

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>friends for no show jobs, making lots of money. So

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>you can't do that. She's coined as an independent contractor.

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>In reality, she's an employee. But if you're an employee,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>you can our friends and family members on no show jobs.

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>So what you do then is make her an independent

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 2>contractor and she gets paid, she submits time sheets. We're

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 2>talking serious money here, six hundred thousand. Is there an

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>effort by you and others to maybe sue on that

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>behalf saying the misuse of city funds? Is she's not

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>an independent contractor, she's an employee, and maybe you're saying

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>you do that? Is that is that possible?

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 5>You know, we've been looking at that for some time,

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 5>and that was really one of the big things we

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 5>were out talking about during the election, you know, with

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 5>the Charter Committee, and I know some of the Republican

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 5>candidates were talking about it too. City council could stop

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 5>this with a single vote. I mean, they could just

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 5>basically say, hey, our contractors are now subject to the

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 5>state ethics laws which ban all this stuff, and also

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 5>the separate laws and requirements we have in ordinances we

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 5>have here in the city. They could shut it down

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 5>in a heartbeat. Breaking a lawsuit's going to be tough.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 5>We have looked at that. We've particularly been looking at

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 5>this issue with this eight point one million dollars and

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 5>then we're going to talk about in the moment. But

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 5>it is really really hard to kind of legislate through

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 5>litigation on these sorts of things.

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a tough thing.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, a taxpayer lawsuit you know, could be brought

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 5>where it goes in our local courts, is very tough

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 5>because we're dealing with individual contracts. I would these you know,

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 5>five city council members could shut this down for all

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 5>time by simply saying we're going to apply the state

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 5>life laws on the other laws that exist.

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>That won't do.

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Of course, not of course.

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Not because in ours rolling once I can't blame her

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>if somebody said to you, I'm gonna give you six

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars on a note, show up job to

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>act as if handout sandwiches on Fountain Square. I think

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>most people will say, hey, yea, all take it. But

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>she also attacked the mayor's political opponents. Now on the mayor.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Of course, he didn't make his car payments. You know,

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a note you have to pay the note you

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 2>got to It's a notes I gotta be paid. Uh

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Tamay Dinard got in trouble for this. She didn't put

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 2>on our financial forms. The fact that she had a

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>car repossessed and had a deficiency is is anyone looking

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 2>at the financial forms and by the way, that's a crime.

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Is anyone looking to have to have pure of all

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>his financial forms. Whether he put down the numerous car repossessions.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>He said.

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 5>Actually, one of my fellow board members over at the

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.720
<v Speaker 5>turn of Queen Todd Sensors, who's a former Inspector General

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 5>up at the Department of Transportation, is all over this.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 5>You know, we've got multiple public records requests and we're

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 5>trying to get to get to the bottom of all that.

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 4>And you know, for me, the big issue it's.

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Not thought whether or not the mayor had financial problems.

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 5>I guess people have issues, it's part of life. But

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:19.439
<v Speaker 5>the story he told makes zero sense. And if there's

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 5>a problem with disclosure there, I mean, you're absolutely right,

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 5>that's something that has to be fleshed out. He's compromised.

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 5>We know how things ended with council Member Dinard. I

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 5>mean she was compromised because of financial issues and then

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 5>ended up soliciting a bribe and pleading guilty to it.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 5>I know she kind of wants to take the plea back,

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 5>I understand from her public statements, but she ended up

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 5>doing I think eleven months in federal prison for it. So,

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 5>and this was one that she solicited. This was not

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 5>part of the sit and feld sting operation. She actually

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 5>went out and solicited that from a developer's lawyer who

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 5>was involved with the banks, mister Gableman. So really a

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 5>bad thing and it looks bad on city Hall, and

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.760
<v Speaker 5>it compromises these people and it makes them subject.

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 4>To improper influence, and it's something that we are very

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 4>much still fleshing out. Well.

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>One of the elements of one of the cars repossessed

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 2>from after Pureval is a co signer. Doesn't that if

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 2>you have a mayor that needs a co signer in

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 2>order to get a car. That's kind of a compromising,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 2>bad situation. But areween titled to know who co signed

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>so you could have a car that was repossessed.

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 4>I believe under the ethics flows, we are entitled to

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 4>know that.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, look, if he was, if it was

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.879
<v Speaker 5>a co signer with something, the co signer with someone

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 5>who has business before the city, or could have business

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 5>before the city.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Or is affiliated with the company.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 5>That has business before the city, that is absolutely something

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 5>that we need to know and should know. I mean again,

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 5>that person, you know, he is beholden to whoever the

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 5>co signer is in one way or another. And absolutely

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 5>we're trying to get to the bottom of all that.

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Imagine this, Steve Go. We have a mayor doesn't make

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>car payments, repossessions. We have a city manager who's filed

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>bankruptcy with tax lienes. The president of council had, according

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.479
<v Speaker 2>to media accounts, at a one million dollar tax line

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 2>against her and her husband. And those are the leaders

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>financially of the city. You must master yourself before you

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>seek to master others. So the city is run by

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>individuals who have had profound financial difficulties and can't manage

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>their own money. One might ask, why should they manage

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>our money. Speaking of that, city council voted unanimously eight

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>point one million dollars to Alfonsko Hartstein and Louis Serkin, etc.

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Because of what happened on the George Floyd protest. There

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>were fifteen or twenty times the city passed the law

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 2>on a curfew, which we have an effect for some

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>people right now. You have to get off the streets.

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:45.719
<v Speaker 2>You have to quit breaking into cars and fire bombing storefronts.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 2>You have to quit doing that. And they passed a

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 2>curfew violation, and that the police notified the so called

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:55.759
<v Speaker 2>individuals marching around city streets, which is a crime, by

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the way, breaking curfew a dozen or so times.

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Get off, We're going to rest you. Get off.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to get arrested, hoping, I guess to se

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 2>down the road. Here we are five years later and

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>it's happened. Number one, Did it appear on the surface.

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 2>These four hundred and seventy nine individuals are going to

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>get all this money that they were breaking the law

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 2>by walking around public streets shutting down things. Not the

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 2>ones who are fire bombing the stores and breaking into cars.

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a different category.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 2>But the four seventy nine were just individuals who were

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>arrested with zip tized because they wouldn't pay attention to

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 2>what they're told to do. Repeatedly, the last thing the

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>cops want to do is arrest somebody takes them off

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 2>the street. But how valid is this eight point one

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 2>million dollars from the city to the criminals.

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, this to me is one of the most, if

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 5>not the most disgusting thing to come out of.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 4>This administration so far. Again, note that.

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.919
<v Speaker 5>They waited till after the election to win this sort

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 5>of dead period in the holidays to try to do

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 5>it and hopefully, hopefully no one would know this. But

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.439
<v Speaker 5>this is the worst of the worst. I mean, most

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 5>of these folks are going to get ten one thousand

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 5>dollars each for basically waiting around for a few hours

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 5>in the early morning hours to in the sally Port

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 5>over outside the Justice center to try to get them

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 5>themselves processed and released on our bonds. I would have

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 5>happily gone over for ten grand cash, non taxable and

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 5>stood around at the Justice center for a few hours.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 5>I do it all the time for free at my job,

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 5>so I would have happily done this. It's a total joke.

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, Mayor Cranley was right to impose the curfew.

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 5>I lived downtown during this time period, and I'm very

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 5>tired of people rewriting history. I'm telling you, I heard

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 5>the windows break. I knew one of the officers who

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 5>was shot at during this. People forget that there were

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 5>gone to these peaceful protesters. Some of them were armed,

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 5>throwing rocks, harassing police officers. It is absolutely constitutionalle to

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 5>put what they call time, place and manner.

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 4>Restrictions on protests.

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 5>All the mayor said was, look, if you guys are

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 5>going to protest, protest, but you got to break.

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:56.240
<v Speaker 4>It up by eleven o'clock.

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 5>And you can't go breaking into breaking windows and damaging

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 5>other people's properties. No matter how we grieved someone is

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 5>or how bad they felt about George Floyd going and

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 5>smashing out windows here and in Cincinnati, Ohio, wasn't going

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.799
<v Speaker 5>to bring anyone back to life over in Minneapolis.

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 4>It was just insane.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 5>And those property owners have rights, and the people who

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 5>live downtown and were trying to conduct a business downtown

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 5>had rights too, And it was a disgusting time. There's

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.439
<v Speaker 5>a total rewrite of history. It is a total waste

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 5>of taxpayer dollars.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 4>And we have no.

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 5>Idea even how these damages were arrived at. So it's

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 5>ten grand each for most of them. There's about eleven

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 5>of them that claimed that they had special damages who

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 5>were going to get more. So there's like a three

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 5>hundred thousand dollars pot for the eleven named plaintiffs, and

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 5>then the lawyers, of course get two million ques. It's sick.

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 5>It's sick, and it's our dollars. I mean, I live

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 5>in the city. It's our money, and it's just insane.

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 5>And those who are people who don't live in the

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 5>city but pay income tax issue because they work here

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 5>and have their jobs or have their offices or other

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 5>jobs here, you know they're for it as well. The

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 5>whole region's paying for it, and people should be very,

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 5>very upset.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>The other issue is this, I heard the assistant city

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>manager say, well, we're going to pay the eight point

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 2>one million dollars, so that it could be a lot

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>higher than that if we go to trial. Well, sometimes

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 2>in life, you go to trial. I've tried cases in

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 2>federal Court with jurys with Judge Ruben and Judge Porter.

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 2>And one should know that the jurors in Federal Court

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>in the Southern District are not only drawn from Hamilton County.

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 2>In fact, the majority of jurors come from the other

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 2>sixty counties south of Columbus who have a different view

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>about these criminal protests. And maybe somebody living in the

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>city of Cincinnati is a liberal Democrat and so sometimes

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 2>in life you got to tee it up. These jurors

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 2>would have come from Claremont County, Warren County, Brown County,

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Adams County, Highland County. How would they have viewed with

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>all the video of these protesters and what they did.

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you think they would have handed out tens of

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars of these protesters.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 5>I would love to try this case, I mean going back.

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 5>I'd mean, look, you know all, I would love to

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 5>get a good juror from Ironton, Ohio on there looking

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 5>at the at the video of this and hearing how

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 5>these police officers were being treated, and to hear from

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 5>some of the shop owners who had their windows smashed

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 5>out and who had items stolen from their stores. I mean,

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean this the curfew was perfectly legal and constitutional.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 5>This is a political settlement. I have no idea and

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 5>nor has it ever been explained how they came up

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 5>with this ten thousand dollars per person figure. He felt

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 5>like they were missing work or anything. I mean, it's

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 5>not you know, two in the morning when they got

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 5>picked up, nor did they you know or is there

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 5>any indication that these folks would have had, you know,

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 5>jobs to go to it normally anyway, Probably a lot

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 5>of them. I think there were a fair number of

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 5>quote unquote professional.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 4>Protesters down there kipped in. So it's really disgusting.

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you take this hold and they want to pay

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 2>the money, and I can only imagine it, by the way,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the other shoe to drop with Elwood Jones, the other

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 2>shoe here he come with a lawsuit for millions of

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.320
<v Speaker 2>dollars against Hamley County for locking him up for about

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty years for a murder he committed. And that's coming also.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>And then you also have the settlement of Chief Thiji

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>her hands out for about a million bucks, and then

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Chief Washington, the fire chief, his hands out for an

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 2>assistant chief. The city's going to settle all these cases

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>from millions of dollars with your money.

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't live in the city, but you do, and.

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 2>You live where f Ted Piraval may not have paid

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 2>his HOA fees. He's got serious financial problems and had

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the city handled this money as if it's justified.

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Has got as sick in a city resident.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 4>Correct, it's really, it's just disgusting.

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, meanwhile, you know, we're sitting here in

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 5>a deep freeze, which means we're going to.

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Have a really bad pothole season.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:49.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, most bottles are caused by early freezes that

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.319
<v Speaker 5>get into cracks and then blow up into potholes.

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 4>So we already know we're.

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 5>Going to have a rough time on the streets, you know,

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 5>and we know that they're always behind on street pair.

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:02.479
<v Speaker 4>So the city has already been going.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, into a situation where it looks dilapidated and

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 5>the roads are terrible, and it feels like, I say,

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 5>you're you know, like a lunar landing sometimes just driving

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 5>around the city streets. It's just a it's a mess.

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 5>But yet we don't have money to fix the streets.

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 5>But we got eight point one million for some people

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 5>who felt aggrieved and had their cell phones taken. I

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 5>guess that's part of the damages. I was just I

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 5>just saw, you know, for for protesting in the in

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.480
<v Speaker 5>the middle of the night five years ago. But we

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.919
<v Speaker 5>have money for them, but not for this. And they're

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 5>making these horrific financial personnel decisions which are going to

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 5>cost him. I mean, like Chief Washington, I'm very familiar

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 5>with that case, and they've talked to him many times.

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 5>He's getting money, okay, like in my judgment, my legal judgment,

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 5>putting all politics aside, they owe him. Okay, he's got

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 5>a fantastic case. And I think Chief the g they're

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 5>gonna end up having to pay her too, as you've

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 5>talked about. I mean, these are millions of dollars and

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 5>just these you know, effeckless personnel decisions that are purely

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 5>politically driven and are I mean, they got rid of

0:47:57.880 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 5>theig because I thought it was going to help the

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 5>mayor and city case Unsel before the city before the election,

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 5>and it probably did so, I mean, you know, she

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 5>became a sacrificial lamb, no matter what you think of

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 5>her performance. So this is politics, But people like me

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 5>end up paying well.

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Steve Gooden tell the mayor it's no joke. You got

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to pay your note. So let's see what happens down

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.040
<v Speaker 2>the road. It's no joke. You got to pay your note.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 2>We got a mayor. That's finny well, Steve, we got

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to run. But thanks for laying it out. We've become

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>like many other liberal cities, in which case they're poorly run,

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 2>very expensive to be in. And of course the Bengal

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 2>ownership kind of doesn't have money to buy a snow shovel.

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 1>That's another issue.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 2>But Steve Gooden, you're a great American, and thanks for

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 2>coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Steve, you two, thank you any time. Let's continue.

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>The truth will set you free. It's no joke, you

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 1>got to pay your note. On News Radio seven hundreds WLW,

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I would expect prosecutors to act like prosecutors.

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 6>Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting.

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>You know that's justice Joe about Elwood.

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 2>By the way, this Elwood Jones being wine, dined in

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 2>pocket line all over town, had two stints in prison

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>for burglaries before killing Rhoda. Oh so this wasn't exactly

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a paragon of virtue, you know what I'm saying.

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>So now at a couple of days.

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Who's going to show up sitting where Evan Andrews is

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>right now will be Joseph TNT Dieters had to explode

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 2>with a power load.

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll be sitting right there.

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 2>He's going to take off his rope and on his

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 2>prosecutor's hat and sitting with your segment will be Mark

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 2>pete Meyer actually tried the case. They're going to bring

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the fastball. There'll be no change ups for that one.

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 2>That'll be Wednesday, going to the Express. Yes, now Evan

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Andrews is with us, and and Evan talked about first

0:49:56.239 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of all about world events, politics, world capital, what's happening

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 2>in Australia, what happened with isis in Syria? Or talk

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 2>about SINCEY favorites one of the other, what do you

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about?

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>We'll start with SINCEY favorites, good point? How about that?

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>There we go?

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Now what is Since Segman doesn't know he lives in

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Middle Tucky, he doesn't know what Cincinnati.

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Is, well explain it.

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 7>As you know, we own Montgomery in and SINCEY Favorites

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 7>is a small offshoot of our restaurant business. We started

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 7>this in nineteen ninety four, shipping our ribs and barbecue

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 7>sauce all across the country. And in the years that followed,

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:33.479
<v Speaker 7>all the other folks in town icons they came and said,

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 7>can you do it for us too? And we did

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.840
<v Speaker 7>and that's when Sincey Favorites was formed. So we've got Skyline,

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 7>Rosa's Greaters, Glears, Getta Pine Club, Jeff Ruby, Steaks, everybody,

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 7>they're all with us.

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 2>It's great seg who was president of nineteen ninety four.

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Let me think Willie you were, Willie, Willie, willy Well,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 2>William Clinton, Monica Blewinsky, William, Jeff for some cla.

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.879
<v Speaker 7>That's it right there. Please continue, Evan, thank you. This

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 7>is like hot stove league.

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm testing his knowledge

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 2>on difficulty intractable matters. So explain how this works, say segment,

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 2>someone listening and independent, someone in Toledo, the home in

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 2>the mud Hens, someone in Bloomington, the home maybe the

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 2>second best football team and the Big Ten, with all

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 2>due respect to Ojistate, they might be the best.

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>How do you do it? How do you get Sincy Favorites?

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>A menu of items? Right, there's a whole menu of items.

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 7>You just call up one eight hundred USA ribs. Talk

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 7>to one of the folks, or go to Sincyfavorites dot com.

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 7>Hit the menu button and you can see everything that

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 7>we have to offer.

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Here's the great news right there. You can mix and match.

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 7>So you want to have ribs, You want to have

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 7>some Greater's black raspberry chip, You want some clears?

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Getta?

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.680
<v Speaker 7>Do you want something else thrown in from the College

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 7>Hill Kikery, like their ooey gouey buttercake.

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Say that again, ouey gooey ooey gooey buttercake. Can you

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 1>spell it Louie guey? No, but it sounds good. Or

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>or you want some carrot cake from Bon Bonderi or Cervannis.

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Either way, so then you pick what you want. Pick

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 1>what you want because.

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 7>We're not like the old the other guys they put

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 7>their boxes up eight nine months ahead of time and

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 7>they've been in the freezer. We don't do it that way.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 7>We pick and pull to order. We pack it to order.

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So you're Cincinnati and North, they could tuck in. You

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 2>live in Ioway listening in Florida, a taste of Cincinnati,

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 2>shall we?

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You got it? And it's there. It's there the next

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>day segment, give me some sports and make it fast.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, he the stugent borders of proud service of your

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 8>local Tame Star Heating and air conditioning dealers, Tamestar quality

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 8>you could feel in Cincinnati, Cousch Smid Heating and Kolie

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 8>five one three five three one sixty nine hundred.

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 2>You're here when Dean Gregory was going after Tom Gregory,

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 2>did you hear about this heart?

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 7>It live pretty good stuff? Would you agree? It's you know,

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 7>it's good theater. But you have to remember Tom was

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 7>out on the West coast. In addition to taking some

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 7>much needed R and R, he was talking to some

0:52:58.080 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 7>of our customers on the West coast, a.

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Piss trip out to the golf course. Business. Business. You

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have to remember, yes, this segment. Business.

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 7>When Arnold Palmer's restaurant, they they're still busy, they still

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 7>carry Montgomery and Ribs.

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna be out there doing quality control? John Gregory

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 1>will be there for quality control exactly. Please continue well.

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 8>The college football Brendan Soresby oh as likely quarterback as

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 8>last game for the Cincinnati Bearcats, good ridden six thirty

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.479
<v Speaker 8>five pounds dual threat opting out of the liberty Bowl

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 8>coming up and has entered the transfer portal.

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>How many other UC players are taking the Texas El

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Paso come back in quarterbacks? Look at Philip Rivers, he's

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 2>going to play for the Bearcats. But well, just saying, maybe.

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 8>Soarsby through for twenty eight hundred yards, twenty seven touchdowns

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 8>just five I n T so Brady Lichtenberg. Brady Lichtenberg

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 8>out of Toledo. Looks like he's gonna be ready for

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 8>the Bearcats in the Liberty Bowl.

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Soresby wants to be paid more money. Correct.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.520
<v Speaker 8>The rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars

0:54:04.560 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 8>by different schools. Say that again, Soresby has been offered

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 8>four million dollars by difference, sing very good here she's

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 8>offered four million dollars, BINGO take it, I take the

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 8>money and run. Yeah, take some river. Bengals update, Willie,

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.839
<v Speaker 8>brought to you by Good Spirits and Tobacco and Party Town.

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you afraid to let the Bengal fans talk? Are you?

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 4>Are you?

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you fear the Bengal fans? No, they got a

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about. You happy you didn't have.

0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 2>The the doings before the Bengals game. You're like you

0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:37.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a lot of tail games. You're not kidding.

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 2>It was nice and warm at home yesterday. Thirteen Northern

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky locations at Party Town in Florence were open three

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty five days to serve you the party.

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.840
<v Speaker 2>They have been eliminated for the playoffs after yesterday's tobacco

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty four nothing really first time, but they've been shut

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>out at home since twenty seventeen. The experts said this

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 2>morning an ESPN that Joe Burrow is never quarterback the

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 2>game when it didn't score point high school, college, pros.

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Et cetera.

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:09.719
<v Speaker 2>So first for everything, Evan Andrews, here's the question number one,

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen next? First, Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck.

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 2>That's a B. Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer. See Joe

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Burrow wins the Super Bowl? Here, what's more likely to happen?

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>First?

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 7>D All of the none of the above, None of

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 7>the above. I hope it's see what to use. I

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 7>hope it's see.

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:34.359
<v Speaker 8>More to night on Bengals line, Willie. It's six oh

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 8>five right here on seven hundred WLW. Monday Night Football

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 8>has Miami in Pittsburgh seven on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta have more like the chiefs Uh, there goes. Tara

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is done.

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 8>Patrick Mahomes suffering a torn a cl He may not

0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.760
<v Speaker 8>even be back to the beginning of next season.

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of her anyway. What about you, Evan Andrews.

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 2>You like her because she loaded up the boat house

0:55:58.280 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 2>when she was in town?

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Correct, she's she could play every weekend. We'd love to

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>have her.

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Short have to get rid of I think Travis

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey because they're not in the Super Bowl, thank god.

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:11.399
<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna have that one eyed guy from Puerto Rico.

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have him singing in Spanish so that you

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 2>have to learn English and learn Spanish soon. Okay, so

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:18.879
<v Speaker 2>you can listen to what's his name, the one eyed guy?

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 2>That's bad, Bunny, that's him, that's bad.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's one hundred and two days. Will you until

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<v Speaker 8>opening day fifty seven? Until spring training begins? What about

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 8>the draft? Let's talk about the draft. Got the Bengals

0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 8>in the draft segment?

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I think Mike Brown at the age of ninety's gonna

0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:37.359
<v Speaker 2>change his ways. Clean the seats off first, How about

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 2>sitting on bags of home city ice and you'll love it.

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.560
<v Speaker 2>By the way, just kind of brush it away. Where

0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:44.879
<v Speaker 2>do you prush it to at your feet, the guy

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 2>in front of you, the woman?

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:48.240
<v Speaker 1>What do you brush it? That never would have happened

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.520
<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo? I don't know or clean Buffalo.

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Scott Sloan tells me Buffalo and Cleveland know what to

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:54.040
<v Speaker 2>do when it snows.

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>People to show up with the shovel you. You can

0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>give him a ticket to something. Five thousand people, they

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>show up, they line up, they.

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Line up in order and clean out the stadium. But

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.760
<v Speaker 2>now we don't think like that. Here at Lisha Reese

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I think is correct. One more time, Evan, what happens

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 2>with the Sinsey Favorites tell the segment. He wants to

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 2>start ordering on speed dial right now.

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 7>As we always say, order early, and often he will.

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 7>We've got it ready, just the way too late. We

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 7>got the December twenty second is Monday. That's probably that's

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<v Speaker 7>probably gonna be it.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday's it. Monday's gonna be it for Cincinnati Northern KNACKI well.

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you have that order into us by Monday, and

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 7>we're going to get it out for Tuesday, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Question about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You might You know, Sharon Moore has lots of free

0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:41.560
<v Speaker 2>time when he's out out of prison in Michigan, so

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 2>that's good. He could even order, right, Sharon, if he

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.560
<v Speaker 2>wants to taste the Cincinnati get him negative. Who's in

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 2>more trouble? You're ready for another list? Give it to

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 2>me about West Miller or Sharon Moore or Zach Shuler

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 2>also known as Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Which which of those three do you think some more trouble?

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 4>I'd go with b.

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a little bit of trouble.

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I think you get the only fan this account. Get

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 2>get them lathered up.

0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Wes will be fine. I don't know. I'm

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>hoping so here. It's good to be here.

0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Gotta happen like Travis Steele was great when he got

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to Miami. No, we're fine, We're prayerful. We gotta have

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>we gotta have money. You gotta have hope. All I

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.640
<v Speaker 2>have is hope. I don't have reality. I have hope.

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any hope?

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 2>What's gonna happen Sunday in Miami. It's gonna be a

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 2>little different temperature. I would think I would say so, Yeah,

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 2>is Joe gonna play? I would say so, yes, Evan Andrews, what.

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you say?

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, he's a gamer, he wants to play, he wants

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 7>to play well.

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<v Speaker 1>Four and eleven is not a good look. Beats three

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and thirteen like the Browns are. So it's not another

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>good draft pick coming up.

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Evan Andrews, once again, what's the number to call? And

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 2>what's the website if any?

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Since he favorites dot com, get them all, Get them all,

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Get them all segment. Please get me out of the

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Studge Report? Will he in honor of since he favorites

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<v Speaker 1>dot com?

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<v Speaker 8>We leave you with the immortal words of the Stoog Report.

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 9>You know this man, I ain't never gonna be the

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 9>guy that stands up and makes damn excuses like I

0:59:09.280 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 9>ain't ever gonna do it. I just anybody that follows

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 9>our program. It'll never happen. Okay, no matter how frustrated

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 9>and pissed off I am, it ain't ever happening. Never

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:22.439
<v Speaker 9>gonna make excuses, but I'll talk about challenges. So don't

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:24.200
<v Speaker 9>get the two damn things confused.

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, my name's Wes. Don't get me in this mess.

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not a joke.

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Seg Man, You gotta play, you Gotta pay the on

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred automio by Billy Cunningham The Great America. I've

0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 2>been listening for the past six hours to you, and

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 2>listen to Tom Brennaman this morning, listen to Sloanely about

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 2>all the Bengals went went right, one went wrong? How

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>bad the stadium preparation was, how bad the Bengals look.

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 2>The only thing missing from all this is the heart

0:59:56.760 --> 1:00:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and soul of Bengaledom. As the Bengals fan. Having attend

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<v Speaker 2>at the game or not, your voice must be heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I lay upon the table one of three considerations for

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughtful participation at five three, seven nine seven pounds

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred. In fact, we have seven lines and all

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<v Speaker 2>of them are open for your call. But it must

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<v Speaker 2>be a quickie. I'm gonna lay upon the table one

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<v Speaker 2>of three choices for you to make. I'm gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>track of what the choices are. Then I'm gonna send

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<v Speaker 2>them on to uh Dan Horde thought let him know

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<v Speaker 2>what Bengaledem's think about this. And that is Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>according to Moegger and others, to not look so good

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<v Speaker 2>and the game having played quite well by the way

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<v Speaker 2>in Baltimore in Thanksgiving night, and then going into Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>they were what about ten points up, had the ball

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<v Speaker 2>with about eight minutes to go in the game, coughed

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<v Speaker 2>up a bunch of touchdowns at the end and lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Then yesterday's game was a debacle. So I lay upon

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<v Speaker 2>the table for your thoughtful considerations. I don't want long

1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:02.800
<v Speaker 2>dyed tribes. You have to vote one, two or three,

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<v Speaker 2>and then give me a brief reason. Then it will

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<v Speaker 2>be on to the next seven, four, nine, seven pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred. Here are the three. Number one, will Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow become Andrew Luck? You may recall after about six

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<v Speaker 2>years came out of Stanford and Luck missed an entire season,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the sixth year he led the Colts to

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs and then quit. Many people thought, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to quit, but he did quit and never

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<v Speaker 2>came back. So that's number one. Will Joe Burrow become

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Luck if he answers to that, that's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, Will Joe Burrow become Carson Palmer. That's another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Carson Palmer, you know, from Southern col won the Heisman,

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<v Speaker 2>spent about fifteen years in the NFL. He was here

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<v Speaker 2>for about seven years, and at one point Carson Palmer

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<v Speaker 2>said to Mike Brown, I'm done. I'm never going to

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<v Speaker 2>set foot at Paul Brown Stadium again. He said, I

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<v Speaker 2>have eighty million day in the bank. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to play for the money. I play for the love

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<v Speaker 2>of the game. I would rather play somewhere else, Trade

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<v Speaker 2>me or else. Okay, that's number two, so Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>could become Andrew Luck which number one. Joe Burrow, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, turns sixty years old next year. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>turns thirty years old next year. And number two is

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<v Speaker 2>Carson Palmer. That is, I don't want to I want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep playing football, not here. Number three will win

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl in Cincinnati. Those are the three more

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<v Speaker 2>likely to occur into what you attend to each We

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<v Speaker 2>have first, we have Steve from Loveland and then Mike

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<v Speaker 2>from Fairfield. Number to call is seven four nine, seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>or pound seven hundred. My producer Dave will pick up

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<v Speaker 2>the phone, listen to what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to put him in order.

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<v Speaker 2>If Dave picks up the phone and talks with you, you

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<v Speaker 2>will get on the air and try to keep your

1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:58.280
<v Speaker 2>comments right or wrong to about thirty seconds to a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>so many voices must be heard. Dave Keaton, my executive producer,

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<v Speaker 2>will make a call as to whether you get on

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<v Speaker 2>or not. And Joe Burrow. One, he'll become Andrew Luck

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<v Speaker 2>after six years, simply quit. Two he'll become Carson Palmer,

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<v Speaker 2>want to stay in football? Demand of trade? Or number

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<v Speaker 2>three he will win a super Bowl in the stripes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Steve first, then we'll go to Mike

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<v Speaker 2>and then thousands of others and Steven love him. The

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<v Speaker 2>Home of the Tigers, and Steve welcome. I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>a note right here to send this to Dan Horde.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say one, two, three or some other comment.

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<v Speaker 10>I'll say Taylor's got to go or Jack or Jill's gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to go.

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<v Speaker 6>You think you think Zach Taylor Taylor shouldn't be calling

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<v Speaker 6>the place he's been.

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<v Speaker 2>Calling him for years. You don't think he calls the

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<v Speaker 2>right place. Nope, I'm gonna put that down here. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're voting for Zach Taylor to get a copy of.

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<v Speaker 1>The home game.

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<v Speaker 11>I think he needs to go or else Jill's.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, we have your comments. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Mike and Fairfield, the home of the

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<v Speaker 2>the and then Beth in Lawrenceburg, the home of the Speedway.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Fairfield, the home of the Tigers. Give me

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<v Speaker 2>a full report.

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<v Speaker 6>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>One, two, three or other?

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<v Speaker 12>Other?

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<v Speaker 4>What is it?

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<v Speaker 13>Joe will win a Super Bowl within five years after

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<v Speaker 13>Zack is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's two votes to get rid of Zach. So

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<v Speaker 2>you see the problem is Zach Shuler also known as

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor. The problem is not Joe Burrow. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is the leadership.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go to the game, by the way and

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<v Speaker 1>sit on those high sickles?

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<v Speaker 4>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>If I gave you free tickets to a game, would

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<v Speaker 1>you go?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go. Thank you very much. Let's continue now

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<v Speaker 2>we have Let's go to Beth. I hear you calling

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<v Speaker 2>from Lawrenceburg, and then the Weston and Indianapolis the home

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<v Speaker 2>of Andrew Luck and Beth and Lawrenceburg.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a full report. What is your vote?

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<v Speaker 12>My vote is number three? And could McPherson or get

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<v Speaker 12>Zicky or somebody find Joe a nice because he just

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<v Speaker 12>breaks my heart, he really does. But number three all

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<v Speaker 12>the way, who Day?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Amn, Beth.

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<v Speaker 2>So you there's something about Joe Burrow that draws you in,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, it doesn't draw me in. But you think

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<v Speaker 2>the ladies love Joe Burrow. He needs a good woman

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<v Speaker 2>to settle down. Is that what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 12>That is exactly what I'm saying. That documentary on Netflix

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<v Speaker 12>that showed him in his house right just playing the

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<v Speaker 12>piano or getting bored, and he just he needs somebody

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<v Speaker 12>in there with him to lift him up. And yes,

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<v Speaker 12>who Day, But let's find Joe a nice girl.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Beth, you will you want me to get Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow a girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, yes, he needs he needs a lady in his

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<v Speaker 12>life to help.

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<v Speaker 2>No question about it. I mean, I you know, women

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<v Speaker 2>are much better than men. I've always said that, Beth.

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<v Speaker 2>Women are the women are the foundation of our society.

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<v Speaker 2>Without women, men could not exist. And so if Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow had a distraction from thinking about football, of course

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<v Speaker 2>he allegedly is dating a supermodel.

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<v Speaker 1>I have her name here.

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<v Speaker 12>But you know, all those all these ladies now, they're

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<v Speaker 12>only in it for the money. And I that's why

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<v Speaker 12>I say, let money mac or your nikky. Somebody fix

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<v Speaker 12>him up. Surely their wives have a lady friend that

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<v Speaker 12>they can hook up with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the way it works today, because you have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend dating somebody, and then the girl you're dating

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<v Speaker 2>hooks up somebody else with another woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting that down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell Dan Horde that you're saying, Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>needs a woman. Yes, very good comments. Thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>much for your call. Let's go to Tim and Mason,

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<v Speaker 2>the home of the transmitter, and then Weston and Indianapolis. Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>give me a full report.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, really, the full report is this, and I guess

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<v Speaker 10>I'd go with other. I think as long as the

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<v Speaker 10>Brown family owns the Bengals the Bungles, they're never going

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<v Speaker 10>to win a Super Bowl. They're simply not willing to

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<v Speaker 10>do what the other successful teams in the NFL do.

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<v Speaker 10>Play and simple.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a text here from Lincoln b Ware. Ever

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<v Speaker 2>since Joe's been dating that model, his career has gone downhill.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about that? Wasn't he with an

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<v Speaker 2>influencer when his place was burglarized?

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<v Speaker 10>He was originally with a very nice girl that he met,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, years ago in Mason they were an item

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<v Speaker 10>for a long time. I think she worked in Kroger

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<v Speaker 10>or something. They went to Ohio State together. I wonder

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<v Speaker 10>what happened to her. She was pretty, she was nice,

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<v Speaker 10>but evidently, you know, you get a taste of the

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<v Speaker 10>high life and you get all these chicks coming after.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, wasn't that one girl supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 10>his house and was getting broken into or something?

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<v Speaker 2>According to media accounts, the nicer Roguin gang was coming

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<v Speaker 2>in the back window and she was in the front

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<v Speaker 2>calling nine one one, having talked to her mother in

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. This is a rather daffy woman who

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<v Speaker 2>thinks nine to one one is in New York City

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<v Speaker 2>and that wasn't a good situation. And Joe, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was playing football somewhere that night out of town

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<v Speaker 2>and his home's burglarized stuff was tolen, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>guys who stole it went on Facebook and put videos

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<v Speaker 2>of them holding Joe Burrow stuff. Those weren't the sharpest

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<v Speaker 2>knives in the you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I think the curse of the Schnorf was on

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<v Speaker 10>those goons. But you know the other thing is he

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<v Speaker 10>needs to get in his batmobile and just go to

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<v Speaker 10>an NFL city where he's going to be with an

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<v Speaker 10>ownership that is willing to do what it takes to

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<v Speaker 10>win a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to get away a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I like BET's idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Find him a nice woman, a local woman, maybe working

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<v Speaker 2>at Kroger, something like that would.

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<v Speaker 1>Make some sense.

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<v Speaker 10>I agree, Willie, as usual, You've got all the answers.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless America. Let's continue with more. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>Weston and Indianapolis. Hounds like a hotel and in Weston,

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<v Speaker 2>give me a full report, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, man?

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<v Speaker 14>So first off, to mention Joe Burrow and Carson Palmer

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<v Speaker 14>in the same sentence is disrespectful. They're not even in

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<v Speaker 14>the same stratosphere. And Joe Burrow's not Andrew luck either.

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<v Speaker 14>Andrew Luckton a love football. He played football on the side.

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<v Speaker 14>Joe Andrew luck was not a football player.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow is a football player.

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<v Speaker 14>He's a competitor and the guy wants nothing more to

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<v Speaker 14>tend to win. The reason he's voice in his frustrations

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<v Speaker 14>are because he's won at every level in his life

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<v Speaker 14>and he's never ever had to do a lose like this,

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<v Speaker 14>especially when he's played well, for the most part, Joe

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<v Speaker 14>Burrow coming out and saying that stuff, he's never going

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<v Speaker 14>to actually say something about, oh, we need to fire

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<v Speaker 14>Zach Taylor, we need to make changes in the personnel department.

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<v Speaker 14>But Joe Burrow coming out and voice and those frustrations

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<v Speaker 14>is like that, that's what's gonna make him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what sorry, that is what.

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<v Speaker 14>Is going to lead him to behind the scenes in

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<v Speaker 14>the offseason, tell them to make changes.

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<v Speaker 10>And Joe Burrow is going to win a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 10>in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Putting that down. I like that, Pop, I have hope

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<v Speaker 2>in my heart that's number two. Win a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>here before he becomes Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer, who,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, went to I think he went to

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<v Speaker 2>the NFC Championship Game with the Cardinals having gone to

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders went to the Cardinals. But Joe's already done that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done that. He's spend the NFC Championship Game twice

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<v Speaker 2>and he's won and one. And I think Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>has done He's got the ACL They had a good

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<v Speaker 2>ten year run. But it's over all right now, Weston,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting you down to win the Super Bowl, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Paul and Cleeves then don in thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of others. Paul and kleif Eves, give me a full report.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Willy. What I think he needs to do

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<v Speaker 6>is just like Carson Palmer did, walk into Mike Brown's office,

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<v Speaker 6>put it on the put it on the table, and say, look,

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<v Speaker 6>we're wasting talent, we're wasting time. Either you bony have

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<v Speaker 6>some money or I'm out, and then take the money

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<v Speaker 6>and run.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, he's tied to the Bengals for the

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<v Speaker 2>next his contracts through twenty twenty nine, and he's he's owed,

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<v Speaker 2>according to ESPN, about another two hundred and twenty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's money even to you. And so this guy would

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<v Speaker 2>have to walk away from two hundred and twenty million.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like real money even even in your book.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, but he can actually want If he walks away

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<v Speaker 6>from that money, maybe that will actually open the eyes

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<v Speaker 6>of the ownership. Like they said, their scouting department is

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely atrocious.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 6>You look at we're half the size of the majority

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<v Speaker 6>of the teams in the NFL's has their scouting department

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<v Speaker 6>half the size? We can't scout great talent or even

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<v Speaker 6>good talent. Right now, you look at the last three

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<v Speaker 6>drafts that we've had, and they I couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 6>where we even got some of these players.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, i'll make your note. So your vote. What's of

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<v Speaker 1>the three? Is he car? So you say he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to become Carson Carson Palmer?

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<v Speaker 6>He should be Carson Palmer. Walk right in the Mike

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<v Speaker 6>Brown's office and put it all on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he need a girlfriend too, a good looking local girl.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh? Yeah, I mean that, I mean he needs a

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<v Speaker 6>girlfriend just in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he needs to relieve some tension. All right, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your call.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue now with Don and then Dan and millions

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<v Speaker 2>of others, and don give me your analysis. What do

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals do? What does Joe Burrow do? The American

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<v Speaker 2>people want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, Willie.

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<v Speaker 13>The Cincinnati Bengals are where Heisman Trophy winners careers go

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<v Speaker 13>to die. Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow wasted their careers

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<v Speaker 13>with this. With his team. Burrow's not going anywhere. He's

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<v Speaker 13>going to ride it out until twenty twenty nine. He's

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<v Speaker 13>not gonna win any Super Bowls. He might maybe get

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<v Speaker 13>into a playoff game, but I doubt it because Mike

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<v Speaker 13>Brown and the clowns running this team are gonna are

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<v Speaker 13>gonna ruin his career and take.

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<v Speaker 4>It away from him, just like they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Carson Palmer throwing Archie Griffin. I think Cincinnati's had three

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<v Speaker 2>Heisman Trophy winners. Am I missing one? Archie Griffin back

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<v Speaker 2>to back, Carson Palmer and then Joe Burrow. If they

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<v Speaker 2>had any other Heisman Trophy winners here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean they just they Mike.

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<v Speaker 13>Mike Brown ruins these players. He skims on everything he's got.

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<v Speaker 13>He's got the two bad probably the two best receivers

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<v Speaker 13>in in the NFL, in the best quarterback in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 13>and he's ruined them.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thank you for your call. We mark that down.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Dan Rick and then Tony and that'll be

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<v Speaker 2>it and Dan and Dayton the Home of the Gems.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a full report. You have about a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight seconds one two, three or other.

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<v Speaker 4>Two.

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<v Speaker 13>The only way that Joe Burrow wins the super Bowl

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<v Speaker 13>in Cincinnati is if Mike Brown sells the teams that.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't happen because the family's making about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars a year in cash plus the team is

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<v Speaker 2>worth about four billion dollars. Would you sell something worth

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<v Speaker 2>four billion dollars and making one hundred million on the side?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, how how old are they?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Mike Brown's ninety?

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<v Speaker 4>You got all that money too.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Brown's ninety? Yeah, all right, thank you for your call.

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<v Speaker 2>We got your vote. We got Rick and then Tony

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<v Speaker 2>and that'll be it Rick and Western Hills, the home

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<v Speaker 2>of Ron's roost. Rick, give me a full report.

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<v Speaker 15>I think the Begos are going to win to's Super

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<v Speaker 15>Bowl next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really do you believe if they.

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<v Speaker 15>Hire Bill Belichick as a general marriager and he can

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<v Speaker 15>rebuild their defense and their offensive line to hire some

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<v Speaker 15>joke yard dog type people. Yeah, he das you know,

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<v Speaker 15>how to tackle people. And he's like his first round

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<v Speaker 15>draft pick, you don't want to play because it's called

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<v Speaker 15>for you all, are going to hurt himself?

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<v Speaker 6>Well do i't?

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<v Speaker 15>They put him on the kickoff team, so he learns

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<v Speaker 15>how to tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how so hard is.

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<v Speaker 15>The learn out of a handle men? You know, young men?

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<v Speaker 15>Half a billion dollars and what do they do? They

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<v Speaker 15>play around and take it easy and they're not tough.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, May I go to Canadian Football.

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<v Speaker 15>League to grab some people who really want to tackle

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<v Speaker 15>hard to break the Devin here.

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<v Speaker 2>Make Bill Belichick the GM, and maybe John Gruden the coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Last call Tony. So far we've got two two, got

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<v Speaker 2>two three, two two and one and Tony from Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>give me one two three or other?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm in column three, Willie all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a.

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<v Speaker 11>Few decisions away from turning this thing around. Long as

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<v Speaker 11>we have Burrow, it means the world. We just need

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<v Speaker 11>to bring in a new coach, a new GM, turn

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<v Speaker 11>things around, and it'll happen.

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<v Speaker 13>I guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>The majority of Bengals fans said the Bengals will win

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<v Speaker 2>a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow. All we have is hope,

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<v Speaker 2>keep hope alive. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW.

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<v Speaker 16>And of course I'm going to say a few words

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<v Speaker 16>about the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 16>So, and first, of course, as I always say, no

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<v Speaker 16>matter what, go Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Patriots today.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 12>Hello, Hello, Buiet, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Broadcasting so Rocky, your friend Chuck Schumer just said go

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<v Speaker 2>bills in reference to the Australian shooting of a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>Jews and forty other people.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, go bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get to play that again, Dave, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure the rock heard at all.

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<v Speaker 16>Of course, I'm going to say a few words about

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<v Speaker 16>the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia. Okay, So when first,

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<v Speaker 16>of course, as I always say, no matter what, go bills.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Patriots today.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 17>So before he makes a statement on a pretty serious matter,

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<v Speaker 17>he has go bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's running for real elections? Is do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a concern? I have the flash poll right here, Rocky.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are the results fire Away one, two, three, before

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<v Speaker 2>we go to the segment, and four Joe Burrow Number one.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going to happen next?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>One couch one Andrew Luck. Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck.

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<v Speaker 2>After six years, you might recall your friend Andrew Luck

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<v Speaker 2>missed an entire season, then he came back, took the

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<v Speaker 2>Colts of the playoffs and said I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it anymore. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer walks into Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Brown's office and I can't take it anymore. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to play football anymore. I'm not setting foot inside

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<v Speaker 2>pay Cop anymore. Trey me, I'm not playing here anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Or three he wins the Super Bowl for Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the only three I get. But the people have

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<v Speaker 1>responded right there. I don't know if there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>any of them.

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<v Speaker 17>I don't see him winning a super Bowl next year,

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<v Speaker 17>but I don't I don't know if I see him

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<v Speaker 17>quitting next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, what do you see? I need an answer? Answer

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<v Speaker 1>the question? You got one?

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<v Speaker 4>Or three?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get a fourth option? You got a fourth?

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<v Speaker 4>Say?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a fourth option? I don't know. Is there no?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta pick one. What's more likely to happen? Super

1:17:30.479 --> 1:17:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Bowl win by Joe Burrow. He walks into Mike Brown's

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<v Speaker 2>office Carson Palmers style and says, I can't take it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Or he quits after six or seven years with fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred million in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 17>I want to introduce a fourth option. Let me write

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<v Speaker 17>it down, all right, let me ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is finishes out?

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<v Speaker 17>This season, has a little moving offseason, takes a deep

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<v Speaker 17>breath and gets back to playing football.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think we gotta call.

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<v Speaker 2>Beth from Lawrenceburg says he needs a low coold girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave the influencers, lead.

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<v Speaker 17>The runway girlfriend gal to cook, you know, and he's

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<v Speaker 17>gonna take care of him and not be doing tiktoks

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<v Speaker 17>all the time like half the Bengals wives and girlfriends do.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to do that. It's just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody needs somebody.

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<v Speaker 17>I imagine his heart being him because he can't go

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<v Speaker 17>out in public, right, so he can't. He has like

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<v Speaker 17>sit in this house of his that he has and

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<v Speaker 17>just kind of hang out by himself. He needs a

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<v Speaker 17>good Midwestern woman, you know about you know, Sarah of her.

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<v Speaker 17>That's I don't know if that would be a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So he needs a homegrown she's married somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, a mount Notre Dame Saint Ursula Seaton.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the Netflix special on him? I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it at the end of Quarterback. Yeah, he's playing the

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<v Speaker 2>panel by himself. He's lonely, staring into the abysses like

1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:02.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, Zach used to stare into the abyss and

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<v Speaker 2>so he needs a woman to occupy his time.

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<v Speaker 1>Talents and get away from it. Whatever. That high school

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend that he had got rid of her.

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<v Speaker 2>He got rid of and then then he got the

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<v Speaker 2>got the influencer, the one that was there for the burglary.

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<v Speaker 2>How did that work out? Kicked her out? Now he's

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<v Speaker 2>with a runway model. I got her name here if

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<v Speaker 2>you're interested.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, strictly for research purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name? First name is Jordan. Here we go

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<v Speaker 1>just never ends.

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<v Speaker 17>But it was a tough It was a tough day

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<v Speaker 17>for the hometown team.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, and you're up there sitting on a bag of

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<v Speaker 1>home city ice.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, how many times are you shut out in

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<v Speaker 8>your pro career with the Colts or Titans?

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<v Speaker 1>Ever? Shut out?

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<v Speaker 17>I can't remember getting shut out now.

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<v Speaker 1>So do we figure out what happened? What was the

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<v Speaker 1>reason the seats weren't clean? Was it a yes?

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<v Speaker 17>A they thought somebody did it and they didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 17>Be they didn't hire somebody to do it because they

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<v Speaker 17>didn't want to pay them.

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<v Speaker 1>Or see is there a C?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah or c?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they just think it wasn't important? I don't care?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see a lot they did?

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<v Speaker 8>They did clean the uh entrance way to the to

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<v Speaker 8>the gates and the aisleways and all that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 8>apparently that's all you need to do in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 17>But you couldn't get in half the other teams. I'm

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<v Speaker 17>sure you saw the tweets and clear everything out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>you pay some was it? I guess the Eagles are

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<v Speaker 17>the bills.

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<v Speaker 8>They make twenty dollars an hour. You get free food

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<v Speaker 8>and everything at a ticket. So again, did they a

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<v Speaker 8>forget to do that? Be just say uh, hell with it?

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<v Speaker 8>Because if they said, the hell with.

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<v Speaker 17>It in today's world, and why did they not want

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<v Speaker 17>to pay it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the fans pay thousands of dollars and they can't

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<v Speaker 2>sit there. And the Bengals pressure release said just brush

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<v Speaker 2>the snow away? Where do you brush it? To the

1:20:47.880 --> 1:20:49.679
<v Speaker 2>guy in front of you? The person next to froz

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<v Speaker 2>See is frozen. What do you brush it? It's like, hey, peasant,

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<v Speaker 2>eat some cake. I think there's people down there stuck

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<v Speaker 2>to the seats.

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<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't they do that? What's your opinion? What's your opinion?

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<v Speaker 1>How about today? I think they don't care. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid of.

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<v Speaker 8>One guy had a tweet said I got too hot chocolates.

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<v Speaker 8>They were called ice cold. The one guy, the guy

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<v Speaker 8>saying guy said, I got a beer it was frozen

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<v Speaker 8>and all this stuff. And I've been I've been up

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<v Speaker 8>back in this team since it began.

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<v Speaker 1>They not think of it, or they think of it

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<v Speaker 1>and going a hell of it. It'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Not any concession stands are open.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets next time money in. You gotta get your money

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<v Speaker 2>in already for twenty twenty six. Okay, get your money in,

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<v Speaker 2>know your roll and shut your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>And secondly, Joe.

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<v Speaker 17>I just wonder if the I sometimes think that the

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<v Speaker 17>franchise operates under like a nineteen eighty five way of thinking,

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<v Speaker 17>which is like we're, you know, paying somebody a certain

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<v Speaker 17>amount of people a couple thousand dollars to clear it

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<v Speaker 17>was like, that's not really great for the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 17>But this is twenty twenty five. This is a multi

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<v Speaker 17>billion dollar industry. This is not nineteen seventy five. We're like, God,

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<v Speaker 17>if we got to you know, at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten thousand, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 18>You can talk to people anytime anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>See, he thinks telephones are just recently invented, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>ninety years old. For God's sakes, He's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>change his waist. He was born like an eighteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 17>But all the stuff they do, like like not having

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<v Speaker 17>like having the smallest recruitings or draft evaluation staff. That's

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<v Speaker 17>like a like a mid nineteen eighties way of thinking.

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<v Speaker 18>Nice for that because we run with a lighter crew

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<v Speaker 18>than some other teams do. But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 18>we do badly there. We picked up Reggie Nelson this year.

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<v Speaker 18>That's a pretty good acquisition.

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<v Speaker 17>See, what what do most businesses do, whether they that

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<v Speaker 17>are you know, say they're kind of mid tier. Usually

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<v Speaker 17>what they do is they give a good what are

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<v Speaker 17>the ones that are the ones that are on the top?

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<v Speaker 1>But what are they? Okay, that's them a r What

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<v Speaker 1>do they do? What are the three things they do?

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<v Speaker 17>Now, if we're not doing those three things, we should

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<v Speaker 17>do those three things and maybe one up the top.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean, that's pretty that's what they do. That's what

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<v Speaker 17>It's simple. You're making no sense at all.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't think you have a problem in your community,

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably wrong.

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<v Speaker 8>They give me some sports, will he The student reporters

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<v Speaker 8>of Proud Service, every local Thamestar heating and air conditioning

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<v Speaker 8>dealers thamestar quality could feel in Cincinnati, Coles Sheldon Braun

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<v Speaker 8>at Braun heating at five one, three three eighty five

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<v Speaker 8>seventy seven sixty five. I need something today college football

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<v Speaker 8>Willie quarterback Brendan Soorsby got this one wrong, is opting

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<v Speaker 8>out of the Liberty Bowl and has entered the trashy world.

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<v Speaker 2>You're calling the game without without Soresby. I had him

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<v Speaker 2>playing quarterback for the Bengals after about four weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>now he's going to get four million dollars playing for.

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<v Speaker 1>Who say, whoever wants him. You see, he's been, he's been.

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<v Speaker 8>Rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars by

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<v Speaker 8>different schools, a couple of them in the Southeastern Conference.

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<v Speaker 4>We would you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Take the money and run?

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<v Speaker 4>There you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Please continue?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, let's see NFL news. Green Bay linebacker Michael Parsons

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<v Speaker 8>it's all official. He is out for the rest of

1:24:02.240 --> 1:24:06.719
<v Speaker 8>the season with a torn ACL yesterday and he faces

1:24:06.760 --> 1:24:10.360
<v Speaker 8>a nine month recovery. Patrick Mahomes, who also has an

1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:14.800
<v Speaker 8>ACL tear yesterday, will head for Dallas and get a

1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:17.880
<v Speaker 8>second opinion from doctors. They say he may not be

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<v Speaker 8>back until after the beginning of next season.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty seven, right, correct? So Rock your reaction.

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<v Speaker 17>Why are these all these guys getting hurt? Are there

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<v Speaker 17>too many games or not enough practice? What is it

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<v Speaker 17>too much practice?

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's got to be evaluated ACLS constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like they practice a lot. Fuck to Dave

1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Lapham about.

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<v Speaker 17>Practice stand Yeah, they rocked practice, man. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 17>practice man. So you you think with all these injuries,

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<v Speaker 17>players are excited to add an eighteenth game to the season.

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<v Speaker 1>They're excited. They're very excited. They can't wait. Yea't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to get the game. Yeah, a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 8>College Basketball AP Top twenty five Arizona one, Michigan two,

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<v Speaker 8>Duke Is three, Produe is six, Louisville eleventh. Miami the

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<v Speaker 8>ten and O RedHawks got four votes this week, up

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<v Speaker 8>from two last week from two last week. They're thirty seventh,

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<v Speaker 8>and Miami is just one of seven undefeated teams left

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<v Speaker 8>in college basketball at the date.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't coach at X He's coaching at Miami. Another question

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Rock, who's in worse shape?

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<v Speaker 1>Sharon Moore? There, that's it. How about how.

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<v Speaker 2>About Wes Miller. Don't get me in this mess? Wes

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<v Speaker 2>Wes Miller. How about Zach Shu Sharon is going to

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<v Speaker 2>prison according to the sentencing guidelines?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Zach Tannler going to prison? No? I don't. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so good? You don't what to go to No, you

1:25:45.800 --> 1:25:47.519
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go to prison? No, stay out of

1:25:47.520 --> 1:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>prison with his crown?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was it was a lot of things like

1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>breaking into someone's home, what with his crawd, trying to

1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>beat the crap out of her?

1:25:55.960 --> 1:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>What was his wire fraud? And paying off witnesses? What

1:26:00.240 --> 1:26:01.519
<v Speaker 1>his crime there? It is?

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<v Speaker 2>I did my best. I can't convince him of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's our good friend. Benjamin Crump. What was his crime?

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<v Speaker 17>Lies?

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<v Speaker 1>Speaks up? All right?

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<v Speaker 17>So so you through the question to me and say

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<v Speaker 17>about what Joe Burrow does next year?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say? Yeah? Why don't you answer the

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<v Speaker 1>question for one question? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 17>Caon Palmer, Andrew Locke or super Bowl? I think those

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<v Speaker 17>three options. I think the super.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl is more likely. However, that's not likely. Would you

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<v Speaker 2>agree or not?

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty tough surely for next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna turn down two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like a chunky No? And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna quit. Joe Burrow, I think he's going to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get through this season quick?

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<v Speaker 15>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is he gonna play?

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<v Speaker 3>There?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna play in the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He's smart, He's gonna play.

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<v Speaker 17>Get through the off season, gonna get away from it.

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<v Speaker 17>Go to Tahiti with a couple of models and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff, take away models. How about one girl. He's almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years old. That's the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to his I like his mom and dad. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to mama and say, Mama, what should I do?

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<v Speaker 17>He's a good Midwestern girl who doesn't have an ig

1:27:11.800 --> 1:27:15.400
<v Speaker 17>account or a TikTok account and none that stuff. Just

1:27:15.439 --> 1:27:18.439
<v Speaker 17>one thing. Have kids and take care of him and

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<v Speaker 17>raise a family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he needs. He used to have children.

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<v Speaker 17>Knows that they know how to cook right and cook

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<v Speaker 17>nice meals, create a nice home.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he needs. All he does is playing the

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<v Speaker 1>pan and look at the Ohio river.

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<v Speaker 17>Very lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a lonely man.

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<v Speaker 17>I saw it a bit with with Peyton Man and

1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:36.360
<v Speaker 17>he couldn't go out of his house. But he was

1:27:36.439 --> 1:27:39.160
<v Speaker 17>like he was always playing at a high level. So

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<v Speaker 17>wherever he went, people were like, you know, how about

1:27:43.240 --> 1:27:44.040
<v Speaker 17>he couldn't go anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>You know Roy Orbison? Of course, only the lonely was

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<v Speaker 2>he's singing about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is lonely. Needs

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<v Speaker 2>a woman, a good woman, midwestern woman, good stock, thirty legs,

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<v Speaker 2>broad hips.

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<v Speaker 1>He had good shout bear and hips.

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<v Speaker 17>That's what exactly, big hips, those skinny you know model.

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<v Speaker 17>We need somebody with you know, give me yeah, only alone?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember him? You liked him, didn't you know? He's the

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<v Speaker 2>best big Oh he's the big old rock. What's on

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<v Speaker 2>the big show today? Trying to get a little matchmaking here?

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<v Speaker 2>He may have trouble meeting a woman. Is that possible?

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<v Speaker 1>He has had a ship, and I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd they'd be lining up from him.

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<v Speaker 17>He has trouble meeting the right woman because he's around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that he is. Only fans have no idea. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on there all the time, only fans. I am.

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<v Speaker 17>You should have an only fans account. Say sure, there's

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<v Speaker 17>a market for that. Make a few extra bucks on

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<v Speaker 17>the side side, hustle Sarah. Now if you got her

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<v Speaker 17>on it, you probably would't make Some storms are brilliant

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<v Speaker 17>her eyes. Believe me storms, what's on the big show?

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<v Speaker 17>Rock Eddie and I are going to discuss the Bengals

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<v Speaker 17>game yesterday, and we're going to take calls from people

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<v Speaker 17>that were there. I want to know from versus mouth

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<v Speaker 17>what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to know the story.

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<v Speaker 17>How come the gates weren't open forty to fifty minutes

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<v Speaker 17>before the game?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come as after the first quarter you couldn't move,

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<v Speaker 2>You were stuck to the seat.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't move. You leave your flesh on the seats.

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<v Speaker 2>To hell with the fans and the crowd of paying

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<v Speaker 2>the bills we already got ours. Is that it sad

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<v Speaker 2>Get me out of never have your tongue s touched

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<v Speaker 2>and it stuck on a metal pool. No seg give

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<v Speaker 2>me out of the student's report only fans Willian Hotter

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<v Speaker 2>of warmer days ahead. We leave you with the immortal

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<v Speaker 2>words of the stewed report.

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<v Speaker 16>If they keep going away, they're going I don't know

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<v Speaker 16>what's going happen in our city.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidely said that, and Sideley's laid down the law on

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred WLW