1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: By Billy cunning in the Great America. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Welcome this Monday, after doing the Tri State bridget as 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: it is, by Wednesday is going to be rain and 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 2: about forty five or fifty degrees get through tonight tomorrow 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: thing's going to be okay and things going to be 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: better except maybe on the field on the gridiron, except 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: here and there and everywhere. Mo Hagar, welcome again to 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: And so Mo like you. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: I think you, Tony Pike, and el Mo and Lance 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: cover the Bengals better than the national ESPN Fox Sports crew, 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: would you agree or not? 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: I think we opine on the Bengals with a better 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: perspective than they do around the country. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Yes. 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Now, when I monitor those events this morning, as I 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: do all the time, I have about seven TV sets 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: in my home. I monitor them all. I have all 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: the websites looking up, looking here. I'm being told by 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: the experts that the death knell of Joe Burrow's career 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: happened began in Buffalo, in which they were what ten 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: points up with about nine minutes to go, and then 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: lost easily because of Joe Burrow's interception for Tea for 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: a pick six and then the next one, and then 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: what happened yesterday, according to the experts, confirmed at all 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: that somehow Joe Burrow is done, He's been fully bengalized, 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: and Zach Shule has no idea what he's doing. And 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: the Bengals is the worst sports organization in the world. 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: I guess there's some soccer team in Holland that may 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: be worse than the Bengals, but the experts say none 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: of that is true. I'm going to ask you some 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: big questions later on MO about the Bengals. 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Let's go. 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: Let's go before I get to the big questions, because 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: they're big questions. They're going to set you back in 36 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: your chair. Tell me what the hell happened yesterday at 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Pey Course Stadium with Joe Burrow and the Bengals. 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: The Ravens came to play. 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: At the end, I'm listening to Ravens players say we 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: just beat the s out of them and another player 41 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: for shout and they didn't want to play us. 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: They don't want to play us. 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: So tell the American people, the long suffering Bengals fans 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: who pay a quarter of a billion dollars in new 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: money to the Bengals whether the Bengals are in free 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: fall or it is just simply a mistake that will 47 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: get better maybe next week playing in Miami, give me 48 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: a live update. 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 3: Let's talk. Let's talk about yesterday. Yesterday, Please do talk 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: about it. I've heard people say the Bengals quit yesterday. 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: I don't think that's accurate, because in order to quit something, 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: you have to have started. From the opening kickoff. That 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: team looked like it didn't want to be there. That 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: team looked like whether it was because of the cold, 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: the opponent, the lack of high end stakes, other stuff 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: swirling around the team, whatever it is, that team yesterday, 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: from the quarterback down looked completely checked out. In the 58 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: second half, I saw Joe Burrow go out of bounds 59 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: on a third down play instead of trying for the 60 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: first down. Now you might say, well, he wouldn't have 61 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: gotten it. Don't want Joe to play hero ball. The 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow that I know and love, the Joe Burrow 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: who has given me a ton of highs as a 64 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: fan of this foot team, decided we're gonna punt the 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: football away instead of me trying to make a play. 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: In the second half of that game, Willie Bengals at 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: one point yesterday ran twenty seven consecutive offensive plays, twenty 68 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: seven consecutive offensive plays the Ravens. The Ravens didn't take 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: their first offensive snap in the fourth quarter until there 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: were two minutes and three seconds remaining. Now, there was 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: a pick six in the middle of all that. But 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: what did you see when you watch those twenty seven 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: plays unfold? You saw a team checked out. You saw 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: a team that gave up. You saw a team that 75 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: played with no urgency. You saw a team that was 76 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: not remotely interested in a last gasp effort to not 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: only win the game but save their season. They were huddling, 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: they were taking all sorts of time between plays. They 79 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: were dinking and dunking the ball down the field, they 80 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: were calling running plays. They were waving the white flag. 81 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow was the quarterback of an offense yesterday that 82 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: waved the white flag. That to me, the big takeaway 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: from yesterday is that that team yesterday, and I don't 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: know how you could say otherwise, that looked and felt 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: like a team that didn't want to be there in 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: a game that they absolutely had to win to even 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: maintain a shred of hope. 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: To make the postseason. 89 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: What that says about Joe Burrow, What that says about 90 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, What that says about the overall state of 91 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: the organization, whatever it says, None of it's any good. 92 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: Who had a worst day? 93 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: The Bengals on the field are the Bengals management. 94 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: Off the field? 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: I got other questions coming, though, but I'm thinking long 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: suffering Bengals fans paying tens of thousands of dollars to 97 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: sit on several bags of home city ice for hours 98 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: to watch that boose egg? 99 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: Who did Who did the worst job? The Bengals on 100 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the field are the Bengals off the field? 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: Well, you might argue you both did the bare minimum. 102 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the seats yesterday at the stadium. You know, 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: as a season ticket holder, I did not go yesterday. 104 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: The weather had nothing to do with it. The team 105 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: performance had nothing to do with it. My daughter had 106 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: a basketball game. I chose to watch her play instead 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: of go to the Bengals game. But I love going 108 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: to Bengals games. The Bengals, I think yesterday did the 109 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: minimum that the NFL expects teams to do in their snow. 110 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: I think they satisfied their baseline requirement when it comes 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: to snow removal and handling of the snow. But you 112 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: have a choice. You have a choice if you run 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: a business, you have a choice. If you work at 114 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 3: a business, you have a choice sometimes with your circle 115 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: of family and friends, to do the bare minimum or 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: go above and beyond. The Bengals had a choice yesterday 117 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: to do what was required or go above and beyond 118 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: to make your guests feel welcome and comfortable. Guests that 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 3: paid good money and sat through arctic temperatures to watch 120 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: what has been this season for the most part, and 121 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: inferior product. 122 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: They had a choice. 123 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: They could choose to do the bare minimum, and I 124 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: think they did, or they could choose to go above 125 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: and beyond to make their guests as comfortable as possible 126 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: in very uncomfortable circumstances. 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: So if someone's heading to their seats, they got six 128 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: inches of ice and snow. The Bengals email last night 129 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: said they could have called an usher and just shoot 130 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: away the ice and just pull it off. Where do 131 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: you put the ice? The seat in front of you, 132 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: the seat to your left, your right. The Bengals fans 133 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: had no option but to sit there acting like they 134 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: were in an igloo somewhere north of Nantucket. Can you 135 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? 136 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: Mo? 137 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: I do again, what they did probably satisfies the NFL's 139 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: requirement as it relates to hndling snow. I think if 140 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: you run a business, if you have guests, if you 141 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: have customers, you can do everything you can to ensure 142 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: their comfort, or you can't, and the Bengals chose not to. 143 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: Now. 144 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: I will also say this, I think had the Bengals 145 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: taken the field yesterday with a record of ten and 146 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: three instead of four and nine, nobody would be talking 147 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: about snow. But in Philadelphia yesterday the Eagles played a game. 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: There was lots of snow in the seats, and I 149 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: saw pictures of the seats for the most part having 150 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: been that didn't happen yesterday at the venue originally known 151 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: as Paul Brown Stadium. And again, if you want to say, well, 152 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: you know, they did what they were supposed to do, 153 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: that's fine, And maybe you don't think they deserve criticism 154 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: for not going above and beyond. If it's me, I 155 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: want my guests, my customers who have paid me very 156 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: very very hard earned money to sit in the cold. 157 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: I would go out of my way. 158 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: I would ensure that my organization went out of its 159 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: way to ensure that our guests were as comfortable as possible. 160 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: And for me, that would have would have involved having 161 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: my customers not wipe the snow off their seats. But again, 162 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: I do think this, if the Bengals were ten and three, 163 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: nobody would care. Now, So there's that. Then there is 164 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: the performance on the field. The performance on the field yesterday, 165 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: I think you were being fair if you thought, you 166 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: know what, this is going to be a desperate team, 167 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: a team that is heating the call of its quarterback 168 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: who is clearly not happy and clearly not having a 169 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: whole lot of fun right now. It's a team that 170 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: has faint playoff hopes, but still playoff hopes. And now 171 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: what if you beat the Baltimore Ravens, maybe the door 172 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: cracks open just a little bit. They had just beaten 173 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: this team seventeen days prior. They are playing at home, 174 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: They do have Joe Burrow, They came into the game 175 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: at least offensively, at least a little healthy. What I 176 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: saw yesterday was not an urgent team. It was not 177 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: a desperate team. It was a team that can't wait 178 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: for the season to end. That doesn't reflect poorly on 179 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: the coach, doesn't reflect it doesn't reflect well on the players, 180 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: and it doesn't reflect well on really anybody. Haven't had 181 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: anything to do with the organization. All right, mo I 182 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: want to ask you a big question. Are you prepared? 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: I'm ready? 184 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: Which entity or person is in the worst shape? 185 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: We go? 186 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: Number one? 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: Maybe Miller time and maybe Zach Miller is not the best. 188 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: Shall we say it is Wes Miller. He's related to 189 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: Wes Miller and Wes Miller and East Miller. They're not 190 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: the best. But Bearcout basketball team is not shall we say, 191 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: in great shape? Would you agree Bearcout basket struggling? Yes, 192 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: that's one. Number two is Zach Taylor, also known as 193 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: Zach Shuler, who is calling the plays, responsible for game preparation. 194 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm responsible for the formation directly or indirectly with Duke 195 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: Tobin for the players selected. Number three is Sharon Moore, 196 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: the ex coach of Michigan who's looking at a hard 197 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: time daddy, having asked the services of OnlyFans model during 198 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: a halftime when I think during the High Stay game 199 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: he had his mind somewhere else. 200 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: So we have, on. 201 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: One hand, we have Wes Miller, Bearcut Basketball, then we 202 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: got Zach Shuler aka Zach Taylor. Then we have Sharon 203 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: Moore and the Michigan situation. Where would you like to 204 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: be in charge to handle Wes Miller, Zach Shuler or 205 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Sharon Moore situation? 206 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: Where would you like to be in charge? 207 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: I would not like to be in charge of the 208 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: Sharon Moore situation because that involves criminal charges and lots 209 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: of really icky. 210 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Stuff that have not so much much to do with football. 211 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: Sharon Moore that that situation, you know, there's a lot 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: of sadness to that inechegable. His children and wife I 213 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: don't think signed up for what he is dragging them through, 214 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 3: and so I view that through a lens of sadness, 215 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: because this is somebody who has abandoned the responsibility he 216 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: had to his family and others, you know, And I 217 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: feel for those players who play for him. I feel 218 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: for players who have committed to play for the University 219 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: of Michigan who are going to be the collateral damage 220 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: in something that they're not at fault. 221 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: For football, get the death penalty. 222 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: No, Wes Miller is in a world of trouble right now. 223 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: His team has lost four games. They have a very 224 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: difficult game against Clemson on Sunday in South Carolina, and 225 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: then they play in the Big Twelve. And I don't 226 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: know if folks don't follow college basketball very closely, there 227 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: are six or seven Big Twelve teams that have NBA 228 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: dudes up and down their roster. I watched the Arizona 229 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: Wildcats play on Saturday night. That is the best performance 230 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: I've seen by any team this season. They ran Alabama 231 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: off the floor in a game played in the state 232 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: of Alabama. Bearcats play them on January the twenty first. 233 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: I think even Wes would be the first to tell 234 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: you year five, the expectation was make the NCAA tournament, 235 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: and unfortunately, it is really hard to envision Cincinnati on 236 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: Selection Sunday having a chance to have its name called. 237 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: And if it's not, I think Wes would tell you 238 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: that the expectation for most is that there's going to 239 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: be a coaching change. I think was Zach Taylor the 240 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: one thing And I've said this to you for six 241 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: and a half years. I've never watched a Zach Taylor 242 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: team and thought the players have quit or the players 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: aren't prepared. Now he's had. You know, you might say 244 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: play calling issues at times. That doesn't bother me so much. 245 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: Maybe there have been personnel issues that he's not responsible for. 246 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: That's okay. But at the end of the day, whether 247 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: the Bengals have been good or whether they've been not good, 248 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: when Zach Taylor has been the coach, I've always thought, boy, 249 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: the team plays for him, the team plays hard. Effort's 250 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: not an issue here. Preparation really isn't an issue here. 251 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: Yesterday I saw a team that was not prepared. I 252 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: saw a team that's effort was compromised. I saw a 253 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: team that did not want to be there, and that 254 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: reflects very poorly on the coach. I am more than 255 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: willing and have for six and a half years, more 256 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: than willing to give Zach Taylor credit for things then 257 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: I don't think others do. I think getting Joe Flacco 258 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: up to speed this year is a credit to Zach Taylor. 259 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: They lost all the games, but you know they played hard. 260 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: You know he got Joe Flack already. 261 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: I think I think the Bengals winning playoff games when 262 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: they had the game plan behind an awful offensive line 263 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 3: to a large degree, reflects. 264 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: Really good coaching. 265 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: I think Zach Taylor getting Jake Browning ready to play 266 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: and win two years ago but he had never played before. 267 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: Credit to Zach Taylor. I think Zach Taylor getting Joe 268 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: Burrow ready to play his first NFL game without a 269 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: preseason with the COVID training camp. Credit to Zach Taylor. 270 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: So I've never been one of these folks that just 271 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: gratuitously wells away at Zach Taylor whenever anything goes wrong 272 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Bengals. But against Pittsburgh a few weeks ago, 273 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: many accused players on the defensive quitting. 274 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that was a one off. 275 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: Yesterday I saw a team that didn't quit because it 276 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: never started. It didn't want to be there. It looked 277 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: checked out mentally and physically. That reflects very poorly on 278 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: the head coach. And I think you're being completely reasonable 279 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 3: if you wonder if that same look is going to 280 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: be evident over these last three games, and if it is, 281 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,119 Speaker 3: then I think you have to very very very seriously 282 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: wonder whether or not you can move forward with this 283 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: head coach. 284 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, about a minute remaining mo we have to get 285 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: back to the commercials. But your experts in ESPN said 286 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: this morning, I don't know if this is Zach. You 287 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 2: might know that Joe Burrow's contract is not guaranteed next year. 288 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at that. 289 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was five years due seventy five million, 290 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at this as a cap hit like 291 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: sixty five million, and it says zero guaranteed for next year. 292 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Is that true? 293 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has signed a deal five years, two hundred 294 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: and seventy five mil. Two hundred and nineteen million of 295 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: it is guaranteed. 296 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: Two ninety and let's call it two twenty two nineteen 297 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: two hundred. 298 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: So the overwhelming majority of that money is is guaranteed. 299 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow will be the quarterback of the Bengals next year. 300 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: And I saw your tweet and I took you to 301 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: test for this because Joe had his comments the other day, right, 302 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: And so this is this is what bothers me about 303 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: some of the reaction to Joe Burrow and what he said. 304 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: And look, let's be honest. He said what he said, 305 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: and then he played arguably his worst game ever. Didn't 306 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: pick a very good Sunday to play his worst game. Ever, 307 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: but one of the common although I think misdirected complaints 308 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: about athletes is they don't care enough about winning because 309 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: of the money they make. Here, you have a guy, 310 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: say what you want about him. Winning matters to him, 311 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: The success matters to him, His reputation as a quarterback 312 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: matters to him, and we tell him the shut up, 313 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: be happy with the money you're making. 314 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. 315 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: You can't tell these guys, well, you don't care enough 316 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: about winning because. 317 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: You're you're overpaid. 318 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: And then when they care so much about winning that 319 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: it's affecting them publicly, you can't say, shut up, you're 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: making too much money to care about winning. 321 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: That well, which one do we want it? 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to answer that question, but we'll ask 323 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: you one more question, please. According to ESPN, Joe Burrow 324 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: is more likely to become Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer. 325 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Which is it. I'll frame it this way. Since you 326 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: won't answer my question, I want to answer that question. 327 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: What is more likely to happen right now? 328 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow wins a Super Bowl over the next four 329 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: years while he's under contract with the Bengals, or he 330 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: chooses to do what Carson Palmer did, or he chooses 331 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: to do what Andrew Luck did. Now, you might say, 332 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: odds are he's not going to do what Carson did. 333 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: That's fair. Yep, odds are he's not going to do 334 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: what Andrew Luck did. 335 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: That's fair. 336 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 3: But our odds are that Joe Burrow's gonna win a 337 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: super Bowl here over the next four years. 338 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh feels like they're very far away from that. 339 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: To me, that's the question because I do not lead 340 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: to the conclusion that he's gonna do what Carson did. 341 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: And by the way, what Carson did I was okay with. 342 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: I was in the minority. Then fourteen years later, I'm 343 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: in the minority now. Andrew Luck made a deeply personal 344 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: decision because of the accumulation of injuries. I don't gather 345 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow just rushed his ass back to come 346 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: back and play for this team that was going nowhere. 347 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: So I'm not led to believe that he's gonna do 348 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: what Andrew Luck did. But okay, the only way that 349 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow era is deemed a success is if they 350 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: win a championship, which at the end of the twenty 351 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: to twenty one season, I think a lot of his 352 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: thought was maybe not an inevitability, but at least there 353 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: a very very strong possibility now with their roster issues, 354 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: with the track record in the draft, as abysmal as 355 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: the defense has been, are they gonna win a championship 356 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: over these next four years? Because even if he doesn't 357 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: pull a Carson, even if he doesn't pull it Andrew Luck, 358 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: if they don't win while he's the face of the franchise, 359 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: then who cares? 360 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: Right then it didn't work. 361 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: So that's the question. You might not think he's going 362 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: to do a Carson. You might not think he's gonna 363 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: do an Andrew Luck. That's fine. Can this franchise, can 364 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: this front office, can this coaching staff get Joe Burrow 365 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: to a place where his talents are good enough? And 366 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 3: they certainly weren't on this play yesterday, but Joe Burrow's 367 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: talents are good enough to get this team a Lombardi 368 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: Trophy for the first time ever. 369 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: I'll give you credit, Moe. You answered my question, I 370 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: went on answer yours. I'll lay that upon the table 371 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: for bengledem thoughtful considerations. Mo Hager, once again, thanks for 372 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show on this very cold 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: and windy Monday afternoon. 374 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Thank you very. 375 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: Much, Thank you Willie, and thank you for my hot 376 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: folks Sunday last week. It was only twelve and a 377 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: half months overdue. 378 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: Let's continue with more news next You're home in the 379 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLO with the music Russ Jackson. 380 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: Many leave, but many return. Good to have him back 381 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: on the board. Do your We'll see what happens down 382 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: the road. And secondly, you heard mommo talk about the future. 383 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: Know your roll and shut your mouth. It's the way 384 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: things are. You either accept it and move on. Why complain? 385 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Why moan? Why act as if things could be better, 386 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: because they could be, but they're not going to get better. 387 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: In fact, there's many NFL teams not dissimilar to the Bengals. Heck, 388 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: look at the Cleveland Browns. For God's sakes, would you 389 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: want to be a Browns fan? Or New York Giants. 390 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: They're in turmoil. Of course, they won a couple three 391 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Super Bowls. But how about the Las Vegas Raiders? How 392 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: bad are they? They've only won two games? And talk 393 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: to my friends in Vegas. They love having the Raiders. 394 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: They're likely going to love having a baseball team there. 395 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: But nonetheless it's the way things are. There's many a 396 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: large and small cities that are in a similar situation 397 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: as the Bengals are in with lowsy management and with 398 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: no concern for the fans, and they make billions of dollars. 399 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: So know your roll and shut your mouth, get on 400 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: your costumes, get on your paint, run around like you're crazy. 401 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: Give lots of money to the Bengal organization. And when 402 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: they don't sweep the streets and when they don't handle 403 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: the bowl of the stadium, you have to go in 404 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: and sit on a home city ice bag for several hours. 405 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: You know it's coming. So accepted. 406 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: And you know, one of the great sayings in life, 407 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: as you know, is may God give me the strength 408 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: to change the things I can change. May God give 409 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: me the courage to accept the things I can change, 410 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: and the patience to know the difference. And at this 411 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: point you have a ninety year old owner who's not 412 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: going to change his ways, and there's no general manager 413 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: for the ball club. You have Duke Tobin, who's a 414 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: player development guy, and he picks, he picks all the 415 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: recipes for the disaster that you saw yesterday, and it's 416 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: not likely to get better. And I kind of like 417 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: the last question mode laid upon the table. What is 418 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: more likely to occur? That is, or is Joe Burrow 419 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: going to lead the Bengals to a Super Bowl win? 420 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: Or? 421 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 2: Secondly, would Joe Burrow become Andrew Locker. Thirdly, would Joe 422 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: Burrow become Carson Palmer. Those are the three issues, and 423 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one is more likely at this point. 424 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, but whatever it is, it's good to 425 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: have an NFL team here, even a bad one with 426 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: horrible management and an ownership that is worth now a billions. 427 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: If you were a billionaire and the peasants gave you 428 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: all that kind of money, would you really care what 429 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: the peasants think. You're a billionaire. If it don't like it, 430 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: I'll take my franchise and go somewhere else and get 431 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: my billions of dollars. So dress up, put on the 432 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: silly costumes, come yell, holler, and shout, and know every 433 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: now and then, every thirty years or so, the Bengals 434 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: might be good. They were good with Kenny Anderson and 435 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: then slid back into the Abyss. They were good with 436 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: boomer size and slid back into the abyss and they 437 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: were good with Joe Burrow slid back into the abyss. 438 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: That's the way this is. The last three years. 439 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: The efficiency of the Bengals offensive line is thirtieth in 440 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: the league out of thirty two. I like to know 441 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: who the other two teams are, and it's not going 442 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: to change. The defense is not going to change. Duke 443 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: Tobin picks the players, Mike Brown nods, and I assume 444 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: Zach Sual has some input and away you go. 445 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. 446 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: Secondly, I spoke this morning to the Supreme Court Justice 447 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: Joseph T and t Eaters, and to indirectly to Mark 448 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: Pete Meyer. I talked to Mark pete Meyer about four 449 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: days ago. Mark pete Meyer was the trial attorney for 450 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: Edward Jones and Elwood was freed in a sense by 451 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: the current Hemny County prosecutor. And we're going to take 452 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: that matter up on Wednesday for about an hour sitting 453 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: there and there will be Justice Joe Dieters. He's taken 454 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: off his black robe with the permission of the Chief 455 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: Sharon Kennedy. He's going to talk about the Elwood Jones case, 456 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: and of course the murder of Rhoda Nathan and then 457 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: Mark Pete Meyer. When you see the old video from 458 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: thirty years ago, Mark Pete Meyer was the trial attorney 459 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: for the Prosecutor's office standing next to Elwood Jones, who 460 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: Bob Way was a career criminal. Did you has anyone 461 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: reported on the fact Prosecutor's office told me he served 462 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: at least two stints in prison for burglaries. 463 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: And of course. 464 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: Elwood when he when he murdered rote To Nathan was 465 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 2: about forty forty one years old, and he was in 466 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: the business of using his pass key to go and 467 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: go into the rooms of customers who had left to 468 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: go down to the buffet line, and he would go 469 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: through the rooms quickly with his pass key and steal 470 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: certain items unbeknownst to him. He stole the item around 471 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: rode To Nathan's neck, which was the diamond brooch, the 472 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: necklace that eventually got him convicted of murder in front 473 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: of a jerry here in Hamlin County. And so the 474 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: two issues raised by Countie Pillach are a non sequitur. 475 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 2: One was well, after all, rode To Nathan had hepatitis 476 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: B and doctors believe that if you're if you get 477 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: punched in the mouth, you're going to convey to the 478 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: other person who's punched you hepatitis B. Well, that could happen. 479 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: On the other hand, it may not happen. It's like 480 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: being in a room with somebody with the flu. You 481 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 2: may catch it or you may not. It's not a 482 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: certainty that if someone as hepatitis B and a fist 483 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: hits your mouth so hard your teeth go into your stomach, 484 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: that necessarily it is always true that the person doing that, 485 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: Elwood Jones, would get hepatitis B. 486 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: It could happen. On the other hand, it may not happen. 487 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Don't know. 488 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: And the other issue was in a sense that they 489 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: got the wrong guy and that the prosecutor's office didn't 490 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: turn over certain information. And Mark Petemeyer, who actually was 491 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: the guy turning over the information, will be here on 492 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: Wednesday to talk about what he provided and how certain 493 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: he is that Elwood is guilty of murdering wrote to 494 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: Nathan and by the way and Jerry and Hamblin. The 495 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: county in nineteen ninety five convicted him at that time 496 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: first degree murder, also known as aggravated murderwaw committing a felony, 497 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: which was a burglary, and they saw all the evidence, 498 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: all the case, and they found him guilty. The case 499 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: went to the First District Court of Appeals. The arguments 500 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: raised recently by the defense team was heard by the 501 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: First District Court of Appeals. They said, Elwood, you're guilty. 502 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: The case then went to the High Supreme Court death 503 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: penalty case must be fully reviewed by the High Supreme Court. 504 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: By the way, this takes years. And they looked at 505 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: all the evidence and said, Elwood, you're guilty. 506 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: You did it. 507 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: Another this burglary for him went bad. Then it went 508 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: to Federal District Court Judge Carl Ruben, etc. He looked 509 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: at all the evidence with his law clerks and said, Elwood, 510 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: you did it. Then it went to the sixth Circuit 511 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: US Court of Appeals, which is headquartered in Cincinnati, but 512 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: it handles Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee. 513 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: They said, Elwood, you did it. 514 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: Then over the years, more cases were filed in various courts, 515 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: and every I think the numbers twenty to twenty five 516 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: judges have all said that Edwood Jones murdered. Wrote to 517 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: Nathan that this issue. But hepatitis B is not this 518 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: positive one way or another, and the information turned over 519 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: or not turned over was not exculpatory and it would 520 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: have provided no available defense not otherwise available. So in 521 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: other words, Edward Jones got complete justice and now the 522 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: system when I know Sloany this morning had on somebody 523 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: about the death penalty briefly on that Mike DeWine has 524 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: not signed one death penalty warrant and is not likely 525 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: to do it in his last year. The next governor, 526 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: vivek Ramaswami and or Amy acting God forbid, is likely 527 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: to take the same approach. So Joe Dieters has said 528 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: many times, the prosecutors have said to me many times, 529 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: if you don't want the death penalty, that's okay, saves 530 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: us a lot of work. But if you have a 531 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: death penalty, that's the law, and this case applies to 532 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: get the death penalty, then it's up to prosecutor's office 533 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: to follow his oath and seek. 534 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: The death penalty. 535 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: What happened in Claimont County with that man who killed 536 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: his three sons When the prosecutor out there said, I 537 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: don't want to try a death penalty case, we'll take 538 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: life in prison without possibility of parole. If that guy 539 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: didn't get the death penalty for murdering cold blood his 540 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 2: three little boys, there shouldn't be a death penalty. I 541 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: have no problem with that because it's so infrequently applied 542 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: to the most vicious of offenses. But please, if you 543 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: don't want to try a death penalty case, which Connie 544 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: Pelly seeming to doesn't want to try one, that's okay. 545 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: But in the process of deciding not to try Elwood again, 546 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: simply say, look, he's done thirty years in prison and 547 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: he's not gonna get the death penalty anyway, I'm gonna 548 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try him again. 549 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I'll let him go. Just say that. 550 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: But in the process, don't act as if Mark Petemeyer 551 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: and Joe Dieters either didn't know what they were doing 552 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: or purposely conjured up evidence to convict an otherwise innocent 553 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: man of arible murder. Because that's wrong. That's really wrong. 554 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: No one can explain how this specialized necklace around Rooda 555 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: Nathan's neck found its way into the toolbox of Elwood Jones, 556 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: because that little piece of the puzzle, you know, like 557 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: CSI Styalue you try to say, how does this piece fit? 558 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: That doesn't fit at all. Also in the. 559 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: Toolbox was a pass key and also some chain links 560 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: from doors, and also the actual necklace worn around the 561 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: neck of Rhoda Nathan. There were hundreds of photos taken 562 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: at the scene and the necklace was missing, and everyone assumed, well, 563 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: the murderer took it. Well, they were right. The murderer 564 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: took it and it was in his possession when the 565 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: police got a search worn and found it inside Elwood's 566 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: own toolbox. Can you explain how that got there? Well, 567 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: the answer is the murderer put it there. And the 568 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: only time anyone has ever tried this case in Hamleton 569 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: County to get a verdict, the verdict was guilty as 570 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: charged by that jury. You might recall that a recent 571 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: trial judge, liberal Democrat, when you cross very liberal Democrat, 572 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: granted Elwood a new trial and she barred from evidence 573 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: the testimony of any dead witness. How the cops in 574 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: Blue Ash largely are dead right now and they can't testify. 575 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: So simply say, look, it's difficult to retry the case, 576 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: and that el would receive justice by serving thirty years 577 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: in jail for a murder, having already served years in 578 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: jail for burglaries before he killed Rode to Nathan. According 579 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: to prosecutor Joe Eaters and Mark Petmeyer, I'm going to 580 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 2: conclude the case. Here's the thirty years. See, you wouldn't 581 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: want to be you. Just do that, Connie, just say 582 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: you know, but don't go out the door kicking Mark 583 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Petemeyer and Joe Eaters and the groin in the neck. 584 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: Don't go out the door blaming the for a bad 585 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: prosecution when every judge has looked at it, other than 586 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: a recent Liberal Democratic judge said that Ellwood was guilty. 587 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: Just do that. 588 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Do your job without demeaning other people. So those who 589 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: have been demeaned will be here on Wednesday between twelve 590 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: thirty and one thirty to describe what happened with Elwood Jones. 591 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: Mark Petemeyer is the best trial prosecutor in the history 592 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: of the state of Ohio. In fact, the governor and 593 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 2: others appointed him to try cases outside of Hamilton County, 594 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: like in Lucasville. When this ride's taking place, let's look 595 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: around Ohio and find out of the two or three 596 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: thousand prosecutors, who's the best. Well that's Mark Petemeyer, all right, 597 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: we get him. And he was in Hamilton County for 598 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: like forty years. On top of that, Joe Dieters is 599 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: the longest serving prosecutor the history of Hamlet County. He 600 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: only took death penalty cases to trial when he was certain, 601 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: not well beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant committed 602 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: the murder. In every court that's ever looked at it 603 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: for thirty years said exactly the same thing, except a 604 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: brand new had never been on the bench, liberal Democratic 605 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: judge who wanted to free a black man for killing 606 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 2: of a white woman. And she happened to find the 607 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: case of Elwood Jones and rode to Nathan and she 608 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: did what she did. And that's fine if you want 609 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: to play that game, that's good. Every urban county in 610 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: America has gone the way of Hamilton County. In the 611 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati, this is not unusual. You can't get 612 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: much justice in Chicago or Memphis, or New York City 613 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: or LA for God's sakes, but at least if you 614 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: want to do that, simply dismissed the case. He served 615 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: thirty years, and I can't put the new case on 616 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: because the judge has barred me from putting on testimony 617 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: of dead witnesses. Therefore, I'm going to I'm gonna let 618 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: Elwood out o R bond from death row. That's fine, 619 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: but going out the door. Don't blame Mark eat Meyer 620 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: and Joe Eaters for what you want to do. Let's continue. 621 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: That'll be on Wednesday, I think, along with Senator John Houston. 622 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: So there we go. Let's continue with more. After one 623 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: o'clock today, we're going to call Steve Gooden, attorney in 624 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: the tri State, about the eight point one million dollars 625 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: given to the criminals, the protesters who violated misdemeanor laws, 626 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: and now they're going to make ten to twenty thousand 627 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: dollars each for that and so much more. And after 628 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: two o'clock today I'll lay upon the table an important 629 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: question for your consideration is jo is Joe Burrow not 630 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: Joe Eaters. Is Joe Burrow number one more likely to 631 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: win his Super Bowl in the next five years? Number 632 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: two become Andrew Luck. So many injuries I quit or 633 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: number three Carson Palmer. I want to keep playing football, 634 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: I just can't do it here. That would be laid 635 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: upon the table for your considerations after two o'clock twelve 636 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: fifty five, Homi your reds and God bless Mark Pete 637 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: Meyer and Joe Eaters on news Radio seven hundreds ww 638 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: B Billy cunning him the Great America. That's the story 639 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: last week that Irish Rollie w came out with me 640 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: about a month ago. And by the way, I do 641 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: not blame Iris ROLEI that the city wants to give 642 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: you six hundred thousand dollars plus plus plus. Most Americans 643 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: would say thank you, Sir. May have another absolutely about 644 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: her getting that kind of money from the city having 645 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: solved criminal problems. And secondly, the cities also agreed to 646 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: eight point one million dollars to the misdemeanor criminals who 647 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: committed offenses of public trespassing. More that were given ten 648 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: to twenty thousand dollars each. And I'm gonna ask Steve 649 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: good In the attorney about whether citizens like him can 650 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: object to the city spending his money in this way. 651 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: Is Steve Gooden, Attorney, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. 652 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: And Steve, first of all, let's deal with Iris Roy. 653 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: I watched this public affair situation over the weekend with 654 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: Curtis Fuller of Channel five. His guests were Adam Interim 655 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: Chief Adam Henny and Iris Roley and some assistant city manager. 656 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: I tried to see what they were saying, but they 657 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: were words untethered to reality. I'm not sure what they 658 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: were saying other than, man, we're working hard and this 659 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: city is so much safer than it's spend in a 660 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: long time. Life is good. And then I read about 661 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: all the shootings and things of that character. So give 662 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: me your sense of paying Iris Roly six hundred thousand 663 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: dollars plus and whether that's money well spent, well. 664 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 4: It's definitely not money well spent. 665 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: It's just this is how this city hall does patronage, right, 666 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: I mean, back in the old days, in the nineteen twenties, 667 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: the Boss Cock stage, you would hire your buddies. 668 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: To jobs at the city. Now you know that's been 669 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: outlawed by the charter. So now you'd hire. 670 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 5: Independent contractors and nonprofits. And that's how you funnel your 671 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: money to your political supporters. Iris was the number one 672 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 5: political activist for the mayor over the last several years. 673 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 5: She personally went after his opponents, went after a city 674 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 5: council candidate. She didn't like she is exempt from all 675 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 5: the ethics laws because she's not an actual city employee. 676 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 5: So then two days after the election or three days 677 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 5: after the election, they give her six hundred thousand dollars 678 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 5: allegedly it's. 679 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: For our anti violence efforts. 680 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 5: It looks to all the world to me to be 681 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 5: for her political advocacy. And I'll tell you, as a 682 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 5: guy who has an office right by Government Square, remember 683 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 5: she was being paid to clean up and reduce violence 684 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 5: on Fountain Square and Government Square, in part by passing 685 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 5: out sandwiches and food packets to the kids who hang 686 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 5: around that bus stop. It was a total failure. The 687 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 5: city still had to lean on Sorta and Metro to 688 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 5: move and re route half those bus lines. That's the 689 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 5: only thing that moved it. We still ended up with 690 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 5: two shootings either on or near Fountain Square in business hours, 691 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 5: and still ended up with SWAT teams to have to 692 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 5: secure it. So whatever she did there was a failure. 693 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 5: But she's still getting paid, And if you ask me, 694 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 5: it's clearly because of all the politics and other stuff 695 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 5: that she did during this time period. It's just patron 696 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 5: It's plain and simple, but it's kind of masked and 697 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 5: looking like it's something else. But you know right now, 698 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 5: the citizens, you know, there's no one on there to complain. 699 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 5: And the fact that if it was so legitimate, why 700 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 5: did they wait till two days after the election. 701 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 4: To jam it through. 702 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: Well, of course, obviously in the good old days, patronage 703 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: was you hire, like in the Sopranos, your buddies and 704 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: friends for no show jobs, making lots of money. So 705 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: you can't do that. She's coined as an independent contractor. 706 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: In reality, she's an employee. But if you're an employee, 707 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: you can our friends and family members on no show jobs. 708 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: So what you do then is make her an independent 709 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: contractor and she gets paid, she submits time sheets. We're 710 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: talking serious money here, six hundred thousand. Is there an 711 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: effort by you and others to maybe sue on that 712 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: behalf saying the misuse of city funds? Is she's not 713 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: an independent contractor, she's an employee, and maybe you're saying 714 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: you do that? Is that is that possible? 715 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: You know, we've been looking at that for some time, 716 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 5: and that was really one of the big things we 717 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 5: were out talking about during the election, you know, with 718 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 5: the Charter Committee, and I know some of the Republican 719 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 5: candidates were talking about it too. City council could stop 720 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 5: this with a single vote. I mean, they could just 721 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 5: basically say, hey, our contractors are now subject to the 722 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 5: state ethics laws which ban all this stuff, and also 723 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 5: the separate laws and requirements we have in ordinances we 724 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 5: have here in the city. They could shut it down 725 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 5: in a heartbeat. Breaking a lawsuit's going to be tough. 726 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: We have looked at that. We've particularly been looking at 727 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 5: this issue with this eight point one million dollars and 728 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 5: then we're going to talk about in the moment. But 729 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 5: it is really really hard to kind of legislate through 730 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 5: litigation on these sorts of things. 731 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough thing. 732 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 5: I mean, a taxpayer lawsuit you know, could be brought 733 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 5: where it goes in our local courts, is very tough 734 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 5: because we're dealing with individual contracts. I would these you know, 735 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 5: five city council members could shut this down for all 736 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 5: time by simply saying we're going to apply the state 737 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 5: life laws on the other laws that exist. 738 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: That won't do. 739 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 4: Of course, not of course. 740 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: Not because in ours rolling once I can't blame her 741 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: if somebody said to you, I'm gonna give you six 742 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars on a note, show up job to 743 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: act as if handout sandwiches on Fountain Square. I think 744 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: most people will say, hey, yea, all take it. But 745 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: she also attacked the mayor's political opponents. Now on the mayor. 746 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: Of course, he didn't make his car payments. You know, 747 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: it's a note you have to pay the note you 748 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: got to It's a notes I gotta be paid. Uh 749 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: Tamay Dinard got in trouble for this. She didn't put 750 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: on our financial forms. The fact that she had a 751 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: car repossessed and had a deficiency is is anyone looking 752 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: at the financial forms and by the way, that's a crime. 753 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: Is anyone looking to have to have pure of all 754 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 2: his financial forms. Whether he put down the numerous car repossessions. 755 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: He said. 756 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: Yes. 757 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 5: Actually, one of my fellow board members over at the 758 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 5: turn of Queen Todd Sensors, who's a former Inspector General 759 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 5: up at the Department of Transportation, is all over this. 760 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 5: You know, we've got multiple public records requests and we're 761 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 5: trying to get to get to the bottom of all that. 762 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 4: And you know, for me, the big issue it's. 763 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 5: Not thought whether or not the mayor had financial problems. 764 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 5: I guess people have issues, it's part of life. But 765 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 5: the story he told makes zero sense. And if there's 766 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 5: a problem with disclosure there, I mean, you're absolutely right, 767 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 5: that's something that has to be fleshed out. He's compromised. 768 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 5: We know how things ended with council Member Dinard. I 769 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: mean she was compromised because of financial issues and then 770 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 5: ended up soliciting a bribe and pleading guilty to it. 771 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 5: I know she kind of wants to take the plea back, 772 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 5: I understand from her public statements, but she ended up 773 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 5: doing I think eleven months in federal prison for it. So, 774 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 5: and this was one that she solicited. This was not 775 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 5: part of the sit and feld sting operation. She actually 776 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 5: went out and solicited that from a developer's lawyer who 777 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 5: was involved with the banks, mister Gableman. So really a 778 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 5: bad thing and it looks bad on city Hall, and 779 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 5: it compromises these people and it makes them subject. 780 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: To improper influence, and it's something that we are very 781 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: much still fleshing out. Well. 782 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: One of the elements of one of the cars repossessed 783 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: from after Pureval is a co signer. Doesn't that if 784 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 2: you have a mayor that needs a co signer in 785 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 2: order to get a car. That's kind of a compromising, 786 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: bad situation. But areween titled to know who co signed 787 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: so you could have a car that was repossessed. 788 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: I believe under the ethics flows, we are entitled to 789 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: know that. 790 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 5: And I mean, look, if he was, if it was 791 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 5: a co signer with something, the co signer with someone 792 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 5: who has business before the city, or could have business 793 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 5: before the city. 794 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 4: Or is affiliated with the company. 795 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 5: That has business before the city, that is absolutely something 796 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 5: that we need to know and should know. I mean again, 797 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 5: that person, you know, he is beholden to whoever the 798 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 5: co signer is in one way or another. And absolutely 799 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: we're trying to get to the bottom of all that. 800 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: Imagine this, Steve Go. We have a mayor doesn't make 801 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: car payments, repossessions. We have a city manager who's filed 802 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: bankruptcy with tax lienes. The president of council had, according 803 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 2: to media accounts, at a one million dollar tax line 804 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: against her and her husband. And those are the leaders 805 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: financially of the city. You must master yourself before you 806 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: seek to master others. So the city is run by 807 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: individuals who have had profound financial difficulties and can't manage 808 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: their own money. One might ask, why should they manage 809 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: our money. Speaking of that, city council voted unanimously eight 810 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: point one million dollars to Alfonsko Hartstein and Louis Serkin, etc. 811 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: Because of what happened on the George Floyd protest. There 812 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 2: were fifteen or twenty times the city passed the law 813 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 2: on a curfew, which we have an effect for some 814 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: people right now. You have to get off the streets. 815 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: You have to quit breaking into cars and fire bombing storefronts. 816 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 2: You have to quit doing that. And they passed a 817 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: curfew violation, and that the police notified the so called 818 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 2: individuals marching around city streets, which is a crime, by 819 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: the way, breaking curfew a dozen or so times. 820 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: Get off, We're going to rest you. Get off. 821 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 2: They wanted to get arrested, hoping, I guess to se 822 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: down the road. Here we are five years later and 823 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 2: it's happened. Number one, Did it appear on the surface. 824 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 2: These four hundred and seventy nine individuals are going to 825 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: get all this money that they were breaking the law 826 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: by walking around public streets shutting down things. Not the 827 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: ones who are fire bombing the stores and breaking into cars. 828 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: That's a different category. 829 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 2: But the four seventy nine were just individuals who were 830 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: arrested with zip tized because they wouldn't pay attention to 831 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: what they're told to do. Repeatedly, the last thing the 832 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: cops want to do is arrest somebody takes them off 833 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: the street. But how valid is this eight point one 834 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: million dollars from the city to the criminals. 835 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 5: Well, this to me is one of the most, if 836 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 5: not the most disgusting thing to come out of. 837 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: This administration so far. Again, note that. 838 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,919 Speaker 5: They waited till after the election to win this sort 839 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 5: of dead period in the holidays to try to do 840 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 5: it and hopefully, hopefully no one would know this. But 841 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 5: this is the worst of the worst. I mean, most 842 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 5: of these folks are going to get ten one thousand 843 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 5: dollars each for basically waiting around for a few hours 844 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 5: in the early morning hours to in the sally Port 845 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 5: over outside the Justice center to try to get them 846 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 5: themselves processed and released on our bonds. I would have 847 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 5: happily gone over for ten grand cash, non taxable and 848 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 5: stood around at the Justice center for a few hours. 849 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 5: I do it all the time for free at my job, 850 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 5: so I would have happily done this. It's a total joke. 851 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 5: I mean, look, Mayor Cranley was right to impose the curfew. 852 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 5: I lived downtown during this time period, and I'm very 853 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 5: tired of people rewriting history. I'm telling you, I heard 854 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 5: the windows break. I knew one of the officers who 855 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: was shot at during this. People forget that there were 856 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 5: gone to these peaceful protesters. Some of them were armed, 857 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 5: throwing rocks, harassing police officers. It is absolutely constitutionalle to 858 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 5: put what they call time, place and manner. 859 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 4: Restrictions on protests. 860 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 5: All the mayor said was, look, if you guys are 861 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 5: going to protest, protest, but you got to break. 862 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 4: It up by eleven o'clock. 863 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 5: And you can't go breaking into breaking windows and damaging 864 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 5: other people's properties. No matter how we grieved someone is 865 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 5: or how bad they felt about George Floyd going and 866 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 5: smashing out windows here and in Cincinnati, Ohio, wasn't going 867 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 5: to bring anyone back to life over in Minneapolis. 868 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 4: It was just insane. 869 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 5: And those property owners have rights, and the people who 870 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 5: live downtown and were trying to conduct a business downtown 871 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 5: had rights too, And it was a disgusting time. There's 872 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 5: a total rewrite of history. It is a total waste 873 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 5: of taxpayer dollars. 874 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 4: And we have no. 875 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 5: Idea even how these damages were arrived at. So it's 876 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 5: ten grand each for most of them. There's about eleven 877 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 5: of them that claimed that they had special damages who 878 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 5: were going to get more. So there's like a three 879 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars pot for the eleven named plaintiffs, and 880 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 5: then the lawyers, of course get two million ques. It's sick. 881 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 5: It's sick, and it's our dollars. I mean, I live 882 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 5: in the city. It's our money, and it's just insane. 883 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 5: And those who are people who don't live in the 884 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 5: city but pay income tax issue because they work here 885 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 5: and have their jobs or have their offices or other 886 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 5: jobs here, you know they're for it as well. The 887 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 5: whole region's paying for it, and people should be very, 888 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 5: very upset. 889 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: The other issue is this, I heard the assistant city 890 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: manager say, well, we're going to pay the eight point 891 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 2: one million dollars, so that it could be a lot 892 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: higher than that if we go to trial. Well, sometimes 893 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: in life, you go to trial. I've tried cases in 894 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: federal Court with jurys with Judge Ruben and Judge Porter. 895 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: And one should know that the jurors in Federal Court 896 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: in the Southern District are not only drawn from Hamilton County. 897 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: In fact, the majority of jurors come from the other 898 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 2: sixty counties south of Columbus who have a different view 899 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: about these criminal protests. And maybe somebody living in the 900 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati is a liberal Democrat and so sometimes 901 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 2: in life you got to tee it up. These jurors 902 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 2: would have come from Claremont County, Warren County, Brown County, 903 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 2: Adams County, Highland County. How would they have viewed with 904 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: all the video of these protesters and what they did. 905 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 2: Do you think they would have handed out tens of 906 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 2: millions of dollars of these protesters. 907 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 5: I would love to try this case, I mean going back. 908 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 5: I'd mean, look, you know all, I would love to 909 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 5: get a good juror from Ironton, Ohio on there looking 910 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 5: at the at the video of this and hearing how 911 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 5: these police officers were being treated, and to hear from 912 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 5: some of the shop owners who had their windows smashed 913 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 5: out and who had items stolen from their stores. I mean, 914 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 5: I mean this the curfew was perfectly legal and constitutional. 915 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 5: This is a political settlement. I have no idea and 916 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 5: nor has it ever been explained how they came up 917 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 5: with this ten thousand dollars per person figure. He felt 918 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 5: like they were missing work or anything. I mean, it's 919 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 5: not you know, two in the morning when they got 920 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: picked up, nor did they you know or is there 921 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 5: any indication that these folks would have had, you know, 922 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 5: jobs to go to it normally anyway, Probably a lot 923 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 5: of them. I think there were a fair number of 924 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 5: quote unquote professional. 925 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 4: Protesters down there kipped in. So it's really disgusting. 926 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: It is. 927 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you take this hold and they want to pay 928 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: the money, and I can only imagine it, by the way, 929 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: the other shoe to drop with Elwood Jones, the other 930 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 2: shoe here he come with a lawsuit for millions of 931 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 2: dollars against Hamley County for locking him up for about 932 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: thirty years for a murder he committed. And that's coming also. 933 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 2: And then you also have the settlement of Chief Thiji 934 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: her hands out for about a million bucks, and then 935 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 2: Chief Washington, the fire chief, his hands out for an 936 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 2: assistant chief. The city's going to settle all these cases 937 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: from millions of dollars with your money. 938 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't live in the city, but you do, and. 939 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: You live where f Ted Piraval may not have paid 940 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 2: his HOA fees. He's got serious financial problems and had 941 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: the city handled this money as if it's justified. 942 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 1: Has got as sick in a city resident. 943 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 4: Correct, it's really, it's just disgusting. 944 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 5: And I mean, meanwhile, you know, we're sitting here in 945 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 5: a deep freeze, which means we're going to. 946 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 4: Have a really bad pothole season. 947 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 5: You know, most bottles are caused by early freezes that 948 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 5: get into cracks and then blow up into potholes. 949 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 4: So we already know we're. 950 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 5: Going to have a rough time on the streets, you know, 951 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 5: and we know that they're always behind on street pair. 952 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,479 Speaker 4: So the city has already been going. 953 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 5: You know, into a situation where it looks dilapidated and 954 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 5: the roads are terrible, and it feels like, I say, 955 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 5: you're you know, like a lunar landing sometimes just driving 956 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 5: around the city streets. It's just a it's a mess. 957 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 5: But yet we don't have money to fix the streets. 958 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 5: But we got eight point one million for some people 959 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 5: who felt aggrieved and had their cell phones taken. I 960 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 5: guess that's part of the damages. I was just I 961 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 5: just saw, you know, for for protesting in the in 962 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 5: the middle of the night five years ago. But we 963 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 5: have money for them, but not for this. And they're 964 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 5: making these horrific financial personnel decisions which are going to 965 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 5: cost him. I mean, like Chief Washington, I'm very familiar 966 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 5: with that case, and they've talked to him many times. 967 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 5: He's getting money, okay, like in my judgment, my legal judgment, 968 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 5: putting all politics aside, they owe him. Okay, he's got 969 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 5: a fantastic case. And I think Chief the g they're 970 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 5: gonna end up having to pay her too, as you've 971 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 5: talked about. I mean, these are millions of dollars and 972 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 5: just these you know, effeckless personnel decisions that are purely 973 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 5: politically driven and are I mean, they got rid of 974 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 5: theig because I thought it was going to help the 975 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 5: mayor and city case Unsel before the city before the election, 976 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 5: and it probably did so, I mean, you know, she 977 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 5: became a sacrificial lamb, no matter what you think of 978 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 5: her performance. So this is politics, But people like me 979 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 5: end up paying well. 980 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 2: Steve Gooden tell the mayor it's no joke. You got 981 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 2: to pay your note. So let's see what happens down 982 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 2: the road. It's no joke. You got to pay your note. 983 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 2: We got a mayor. That's finny well, Steve, we got 984 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: to run. But thanks for laying it out. We've become 985 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: like many other liberal cities, in which case they're poorly run, 986 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 2: very expensive to be in. And of course the Bengal 987 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: ownership kind of doesn't have money to buy a snow shovel. 988 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 1: That's another issue. 989 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 2: But Steve Gooden, you're a great American, and thanks for 990 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 2: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 991 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve, you two, thank you any time. Let's continue. 992 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: The truth will set you free. It's no joke, you 993 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: got to pay your note. On News Radio seven hundreds WLW, 994 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: I would expect prosecutors to act like prosecutors. 995 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, and I'm broadcasting. 996 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: You know that's justice Joe about Elwood. 997 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: By the way, this Elwood Jones being wine, dined in 998 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 2: pocket line all over town, had two stints in prison 999 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: for burglaries before killing Rhoda. Oh so this wasn't exactly 1000 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 2: a paragon of virtue, you know what I'm saying. 1001 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: So now at a couple of days. 1002 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: Who's going to show up sitting where Evan Andrews is 1003 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 2: right now will be Joseph TNT Dieters had to explode 1004 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: with a power load. 1005 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: We'll be sitting right there. 1006 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: He's going to take off his rope and on his 1007 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 2: prosecutor's hat and sitting with your segment will be Mark 1008 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 2: pete Meyer actually tried the case. They're going to bring 1009 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 2: the fastball. There'll be no change ups for that one. 1010 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 2: That'll be Wednesday, going to the Express. Yes, now Evan 1011 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 2: Andrews is with us, and and Evan talked about first 1012 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: of all about world events, politics, world capital, what's happening 1013 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: in Australia, what happened with isis in Syria? Or talk 1014 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 2: about SINCEY favorites one of the other, what do you 1015 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 2: want to talk about? 1016 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: We'll start with SINCEY favorites, good point? How about that? 1017 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: There we go? 1018 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 2: Now what is Since Segman doesn't know he lives in 1019 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 2: Middle Tucky, he doesn't know what Cincinnati. 1020 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: Is, well explain it. 1021 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 7: As you know, we own Montgomery in and SINCEY Favorites 1022 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 7: is a small offshoot of our restaurant business. We started 1023 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 7: this in nineteen ninety four, shipping our ribs and barbecue 1024 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 7: sauce all across the country. And in the years that followed, 1025 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,479 Speaker 7: all the other folks in town icons they came and said, 1026 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 7: can you do it for us too? And we did 1027 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 7: and that's when Sincey Favorites was formed. So we've got Skyline, 1028 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 7: Rosa's Greaters, Glears, Getta Pine Club, Jeff Ruby, Steaks, everybody, 1029 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 7: they're all with us. 1030 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 2: It's great seg who was president of nineteen ninety four. 1031 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 2: Let me think Willie you were, Willie, Willie, willy Well, 1032 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 2: William Clinton, Monica Blewinsky, William, Jeff for some cla. 1033 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 7: That's it right there. Please continue, Evan, thank you. This 1034 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 7: is like hot stove league. 1035 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm just asking. I'm just asking. I'm testing his knowledge 1036 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 2: on difficulty intractable matters. So explain how this works, say segment, 1037 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 2: someone listening and independent, someone in Toledo, the home in 1038 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 2: the mud Hens, someone in Bloomington, the home maybe the 1039 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: second best football team and the Big Ten, with all 1040 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 2: due respect to Ojistate, they might be the best. 1041 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: How do you do it? How do you get Sincy Favorites? 1042 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: A menu of items? Right, there's a whole menu of items. 1043 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 7: You just call up one eight hundred USA ribs. Talk 1044 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 7: to one of the folks, or go to Sincyfavorites dot com. 1045 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 7: Hit the menu button and you can see everything that 1046 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 7: we have to offer. 1047 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: Here's the great news right there. You can mix and match. 1048 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 7: So you want to have ribs, You want to have 1049 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 7: some Greater's black raspberry chip, You want some clears? 1050 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 4: Getta? 1051 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 7: Do you want something else thrown in from the College 1052 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 7: Hill Kikery, like their ooey gouey buttercake. 1053 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: Say that again, ouey gooey ooey gooey buttercake. Can you 1054 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: spell it Louie guey? No, but it sounds good. Or 1055 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: or you want some carrot cake from Bon Bonderi or Cervannis. 1056 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: Either way, so then you pick what you want. Pick 1057 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: what you want because. 1058 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 7: We're not like the old the other guys they put 1059 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 7: their boxes up eight nine months ahead of time and 1060 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 7: they've been in the freezer. We don't do it that way. 1061 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 7: We pick and pull to order. We pack it to order. 1062 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 2: So you're Cincinnati and North, they could tuck in. You 1063 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 2: live in Ioway listening in Florida, a taste of Cincinnati, 1064 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 2: shall we? 1065 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: You got it? And it's there. It's there the next 1066 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: day segment, give me some sports and make it fast. 1067 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 8: Well, he the stugent borders of proud service of your 1068 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 8: local Tame Star Heating and air conditioning dealers, Tamestar quality 1069 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 8: you could feel in Cincinnati, Cousch Smid Heating and Kolie 1070 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 8: five one three five three one sixty nine hundred. 1071 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 2: You're here when Dean Gregory was going after Tom Gregory, 1072 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 2: did you hear about this heart? 1073 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 7: It live pretty good stuff? Would you agree? It's you know, 1074 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 7: it's good theater. But you have to remember Tom was 1075 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 7: out on the West coast. In addition to taking some 1076 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 7: much needed R and R, he was talking to some 1077 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 7: of our customers on the West coast, a. 1078 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: Piss trip out to the golf course. Business. Business. You 1079 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 1: have to remember, yes, this segment. Business. 1080 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 7: When Arnold Palmer's restaurant, they they're still busy, they still 1081 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 7: carry Montgomery and Ribs. 1082 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: Who's gonna be out there doing quality control? John Gregory 1083 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: will be there for quality control exactly. Please continue well. 1084 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 8: The college football Brendan Soresby oh as likely quarterback as 1085 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,720 Speaker 8: last game for the Cincinnati Bearcats, good ridden six thirty 1086 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,479 Speaker 8: five pounds dual threat opting out of the liberty Bowl 1087 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 8: coming up and has entered the transfer portal. 1088 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: How many other UC players are taking the Texas El 1089 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 2: Paso come back in quarterbacks? Look at Philip Rivers, he's 1090 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 2: going to play for the Bearcats. But well, just saying, maybe. 1091 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 8: Soarsby through for twenty eight hundred yards, twenty seven touchdowns 1092 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 8: just five I n T so Brady Lichtenberg. Brady Lichtenberg 1093 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 8: out of Toledo. Looks like he's gonna be ready for 1094 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 8: the Bearcats in the Liberty Bowl. 1095 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: Soresby wants to be paid more money. Correct. 1096 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 8: The rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars 1097 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 8: by different schools. Say that again, Soresby has been offered 1098 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 8: four million dollars by difference, sing very good here she's 1099 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 8: offered four million dollars, BINGO take it, I take the 1100 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 8: money and run. Yeah, take some river. Bengals update, Willie, 1101 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 8: brought to you by Good Spirits and Tobacco and Party Town. 1102 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: Are you afraid to let the Bengal fans talk? Are you? 1103 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 4: Are you? 1104 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 1: Do you fear the Bengal fans? No, they got a 1105 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 1: lot to talk about. You happy you didn't have. 1106 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 2: The the doings before the Bengals game. You're like you 1107 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 2: didn't have a lot of tail games. You're not kidding. 1108 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: It was nice and warm at home yesterday. Thirteen Northern 1109 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 2: Kentucky locations at Party Town in Florence were open three 1110 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five days to serve you the party. 1111 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 2: They have been eliminated for the playoffs after yesterday's tobacco 1112 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 2: twenty four nothing really first time, but they've been shut 1113 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 2: out at home since twenty seventeen. The experts said this 1114 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 2: morning an ESPN that Joe Burrow is never quarterback the 1115 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 2: game when it didn't score point high school, college, pros. 1116 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: Et cetera. 1117 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 2: So first for everything, Evan Andrews, here's the question number one, 1118 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 2: what's going to happen next? First, Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck. 1119 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 2: That's a B. Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer. See Joe 1120 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 2: Burrow wins the Super Bowl? Here, what's more likely to happen? 1121 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 1: First? 1122 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 7: D All of the none of the above, None of 1123 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 7: the above. I hope it's see what to use. I 1124 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 7: hope it's see. 1125 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 8: More to night on Bengals line, Willie. It's six oh 1126 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 8: five right here on seven hundred WLW. Monday Night Football 1127 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 8: has Miami in Pittsburgh seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1128 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: Gotta have more like the chiefs Uh, there goes. Tara 1129 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: is done. 1130 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes suffering a torn a cl He may not 1131 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 8: even be back to the beginning of next season. 1132 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm tired of her anyway. What about you, Evan Andrews. 1133 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 2: You like her because she loaded up the boat house 1134 00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: when she was in town? 1135 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: Correct, she's she could play every weekend. We'd love to 1136 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: have her. 1137 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 2: Taylor Short have to get rid of I think Travis 1138 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 2: Kelsey because they're not in the Super Bowl, thank god. 1139 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 2: But we're gonna have that one eyed guy from Puerto Rico. 1140 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna have him singing in Spanish so that you 1141 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 2: have to learn English and learn Spanish soon. Okay, so 1142 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 2: you can listen to what's his name, the one eyed guy? 1143 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 2: That's bad, Bunny, that's him, that's bad. 1144 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,479 Speaker 8: And it's one hundred and two days. Will you until 1145 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 8: opening day fifty seven? Until spring training begins? What about 1146 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 8: the draft? Let's talk about the draft. Got the Bengals 1147 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 8: in the draft segment? 1148 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: Who knows? 1149 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 2: I think Mike Brown at the age of ninety's gonna 1150 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 2: change his ways. Clean the seats off first, How about 1151 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 2: sitting on bags of home city ice and you'll love it. 1152 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 2: By the way, just kind of brush it away. Where 1153 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 2: do you prush it to at your feet, the guy 1154 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: in front of you, the woman? 1155 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 1: What do you brush it? That never would have happened 1156 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: in Buffalo? I don't know or clean Buffalo. 1157 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 2: Scott Sloan tells me Buffalo and Cleveland know what to 1158 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 2: do when it snows. 1159 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: People to show up with the shovel you. You can 1160 00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 1: give him a ticket to something. Five thousand people, they 1161 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: show up, they line up, they. 1162 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: Line up in order and clean out the stadium. But 1163 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 2: now we don't think like that. Here at Lisha Reese 1164 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 2: I think is correct. One more time, Evan, what happens 1165 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: with the Sinsey Favorites tell the segment. He wants to 1166 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 2: start ordering on speed dial right now. 1167 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 7: As we always say, order early, and often he will. 1168 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 7: We've got it ready, just the way too late. We 1169 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 7: got the December twenty second is Monday. That's probably that's 1170 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,479 Speaker 7: probably gonna be it. 1171 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: Monday's it. Monday's gonna be it for Cincinnati Northern KNACKI well. 1172 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, you have that order into us by Monday, and 1173 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 7: we're going to get it out for Tuesday, no. 1174 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: Question about it. 1175 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,959 Speaker 2: You might You know, Sharon Moore has lots of free 1176 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 2: time when he's out out of prison in Michigan, so 1177 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 2: that's good. He could even order, right, Sharon, if he 1178 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 2: wants to taste the Cincinnati get him negative. Who's in 1179 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 2: more trouble? You're ready for another list? Give it to 1180 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 2: me about West Miller or Sharon Moore or Zach Shuler 1181 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: also known as Zach Taylor. 1182 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: Which which of those three do you think some more trouble? 1183 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 4: I'd go with b. 1184 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a little bit of trouble. 1185 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 2: I think you get the only fan this account. Get 1186 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 2: get them lathered up. 1187 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: I think Wes will be fine. I don't know. I'm 1188 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 1: hoping so here. It's good to be here. 1189 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 2: Gotta happen like Travis Steele was great when he got 1190 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 2: to Miami. No, we're fine, We're prayerful. We gotta have 1191 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 2: we gotta have money. You gotta have hope. All I 1192 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: have is hope. I don't have reality. I have hope. 1193 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 2: Do you have any hope? 1194 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 4: Yes? 1195 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen Sunday in Miami. It's gonna be a 1196 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 2: little different temperature. I would think I would say so, Yeah, 1197 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: is Joe gonna play? I would say so, yes, Evan Andrews, what. 1198 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: Do you say? 1199 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 7: Absolutely, he's a gamer, he wants to play, he wants 1200 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 7: to play well. 1201 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: Four and eleven is not a good look. Beats three 1202 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: and thirteen like the Browns are. So it's not another 1203 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: good draft pick coming up. 1204 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 2: Evan Andrews, once again, what's the number to call? And 1205 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 2: what's the website if any? 1206 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: Since he favorites dot com, get them all, Get them all, 1207 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 1: Get them all segment. Please get me out of the 1208 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: Studge Report? Will he in honor of since he favorites 1209 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: dot com? 1210 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 8: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stoog Report. 1211 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 9: You know this man, I ain't never gonna be the 1212 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 9: guy that stands up and makes damn excuses like I 1213 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 9: ain't ever gonna do it. I just anybody that follows 1214 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 9: our program. It'll never happen. Okay, no matter how frustrated 1215 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 9: and pissed off I am, it ain't ever happening. Never 1216 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,439 Speaker 9: gonna make excuses, but I'll talk about challenges. So don't 1217 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 9: get the two damn things confused. 1218 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, my name's Wes. Don't get me in this mess. 1219 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: It's not a joke. 1220 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 2: Seg Man, You gotta play, you Gotta pay the on 1221 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 2: seven hundred automio by Billy Cunningham The Great America. I've 1222 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: been listening for the past six hours to you, and 1223 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: listen to Tom Brennaman this morning, listen to Sloanely about 1224 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 2: all the Bengals went went right, one went wrong? How 1225 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 2: bad the stadium preparation was, how bad the Bengals look. 1226 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: The only thing missing from all this is the heart 1227 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 2: and soul of Bengaledom. As the Bengals fan. Having attend 1228 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 2: at the game or not, your voice must be heard. 1229 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 2: I lay upon the table one of three considerations for 1230 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 2: your thoughtful participation at five three, seven nine seven pounds 1231 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 2: seven hundred. In fact, we have seven lines and all 1232 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 2: of them are open for your call. But it must 1233 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 2: be a quickie. I'm gonna lay upon the table one 1234 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: of three choices for you to make. I'm gonna keep 1235 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 2: track of what the choices are. Then I'm gonna send 1236 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 2: them on to uh Dan Horde thought let him know 1237 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 2: what Bengaledem's think about this. And that is Joe Burrow, 1238 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 2: according to Moegger and others, to not look so good 1239 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: and the game having played quite well by the way 1240 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 2: in Baltimore in Thanksgiving night, and then going into Buffalo, 1241 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 2: they were what about ten points up, had the ball 1242 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 2: with about eight minutes to go in the game, coughed 1243 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 2: up a bunch of touchdowns at the end and lost. 1244 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Then yesterday's game was a debacle. So I lay upon 1245 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: the table for your thoughtful considerations. I don't want long 1246 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: dyed tribes. You have to vote one, two or three, 1247 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 2: and then give me a brief reason. Then it will 1248 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 2: be on to the next seven, four, nine, seven pounds, 1249 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 2: seven hundred. Here are the three. Number one, will Joe 1250 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,479 Speaker 2: Burrow become Andrew Luck? You may recall after about six 1251 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 2: years came out of Stanford and Luck missed an entire season, 1252 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 2: and in the sixth year he led the Colts to 1253 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs and then quit. Many people thought, Okay, I'm 1254 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 2: not going to quit, but he did quit and never 1255 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 2: came back. So that's number one. Will Joe Burrow become 1256 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck if he answers to that, that's number one. 1257 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Number two, Will Joe Burrow become Carson Palmer. That's another one. 1258 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Carson Palmer, you know, from Southern col won the Heisman, 1259 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 2: spent about fifteen years in the NFL. He was here 1260 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 2: for about seven years, and at one point Carson Palmer 1261 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 2: said to Mike Brown, I'm done. I'm never going to 1262 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 2: set foot at Paul Brown Stadium again. He said, I 1263 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 2: have eighty million day in the bank. I don't want 1264 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 2: to play for the money. I play for the love 1265 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 2: of the game. I would rather play somewhere else, Trade 1266 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 2: me or else. Okay, that's number two, so Joe Burrow 1267 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 2: could become Andrew Luck which number one. Joe Burrow, by 1268 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: the way, turns sixty years old next year. I'm sorry, 1269 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: turns thirty years old next year. And number two is 1270 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 2: Carson Palmer. That is, I don't want to I want 1271 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 2: to keep playing football, not here. Number three will win 1272 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl in Cincinnati. Those are the three more 1273 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 2: likely to occur into what you attend to each We 1274 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 2: have first, we have Steve from Loveland and then Mike 1275 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 2: from Fairfield. Number to call is seven four nine, seven thousand, 1276 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 2: or pound seven hundred. My producer Dave will pick up 1277 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 2: the phone, listen to what you have to say. 1278 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: We're going to put him in order. 1279 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: If Dave picks up the phone and talks with you, you 1280 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 2: will get on the air and try to keep your 1281 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 2: comments right or wrong to about thirty seconds to a minute, 1282 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 2: so many voices must be heard. Dave Keaton, my executive producer, 1283 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: will make a call as to whether you get on 1284 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 2: or not. And Joe Burrow. One, he'll become Andrew Luck 1285 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 2: after six years, simply quit. Two he'll become Carson Palmer, 1286 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 2: want to stay in football? Demand of trade? Or number 1287 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 2: three he will win a super Bowl in the stripes. 1288 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 2: Let's go to Steve first, then we'll go to Mike 1289 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 2: and then thousands of others and Steven love him. The 1290 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 2: Home of the Tigers, and Steve welcome. I'm gonna make 1291 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 2: a note right here to send this to Dan Horde. 1292 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 2: What do you say one, two, three or some other comment. 1293 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 10: I'll say Taylor's got to go or Jack or Jill's gonna. 1294 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 4: Want to go. 1295 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 6: You think you think Zach Taylor Taylor shouldn't be calling 1296 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 6: the place he's been. 1297 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Calling him for years. You don't think he calls the 1298 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: right place. Nope, I'm gonna put that down here. So 1299 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: you're voting for Zach Taylor to get a copy of. 1300 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: The home game. 1301 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 11: I think he needs to go or else Jill's. 1302 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 4: Going to want to go. 1303 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, we have your comments. Thank you 1304 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: very much. 1305 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike and Fairfield, the home of the 1306 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 2: the and then Beth in Lawrenceburg, the home of the Speedway. 1307 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 2: Mike and Fairfield, the home of the Tigers. Give me 1308 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 2: a full report. 1309 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 6: What is it? 1310 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,479 Speaker 1: One, two, three or other? 1311 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:10,479 Speaker 12: Other? 1312 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 4: What is it? 1313 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 13: Joe will win a Super Bowl within five years after 1314 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 13: Zack is gone. 1315 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 2: So there's two votes to get rid of Zach. So 1316 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 2: you see the problem is Zach Shuler also known as 1317 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. The problem is not Joe Burrow. The problem 1318 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 2: is the leadership. 1319 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 4: Correct, all right? 1320 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Did you go to the game, by the way and 1321 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: sit on those high sickles? 1322 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 4: I did not. 1323 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: If I gave you free tickets to a game, would 1324 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: you go? 1325 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 4: No? 1326 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go. Thank you very much. Let's continue now 1327 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 2: we have Let's go to Beth. I hear you calling 1328 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 2: from Lawrenceburg, and then the Weston and Indianapolis the home 1329 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 2: of Andrew Luck and Beth and Lawrenceburg. 1330 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: Give me a full report. What is your vote? 1331 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 12: My vote is number three? And could McPherson or get 1332 01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 12: Zicky or somebody find Joe a nice because he just 1333 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 12: breaks my heart, he really does. But number three all 1334 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 12: the way, who Day? 1335 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: No, Amn, Beth. 1336 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 2: So you there's something about Joe Burrow that draws you in, 1337 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 2: and uh, it doesn't draw me in. But you think 1338 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 2: the ladies love Joe Burrow. He needs a good woman 1339 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 2: to settle down. Is that what you're saying? 1340 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 12: That is exactly what I'm saying. That documentary on Netflix 1341 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 12: that showed him in his house right just playing the 1342 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 12: piano or getting bored, and he just he needs somebody 1343 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 12: in there with him to lift him up. And yes, 1344 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 12: who Day, But let's find Joe a nice girl. 1345 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: So, Beth, you will you want me to get Joe 1346 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Burrow a girlfriend? 1347 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 12: Yes, yes, he needs he needs a lady in his 1348 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 12: life to help. 1349 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 2: No question about it. I mean, I you know, women 1350 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 2: are much better than men. I've always said that, Beth. 1351 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Women are the women are the foundation of our society. 1352 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 2: Without women, men could not exist. And so if Joe 1353 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 2: Burrow had a distraction from thinking about football, of course 1354 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 2: he allegedly is dating a supermodel. 1355 01:05:59,040 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: I have her name here. 1356 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 12: But you know, all those all these ladies now, they're 1357 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 12: only in it for the money. And I that's why 1358 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 12: I say, let money mac or your nikky. Somebody fix 1359 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 12: him up. Surely their wives have a lady friend that 1360 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 12: they can hook up with him. 1361 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way it works today, because you have 1362 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 2: a friend dating somebody, and then the girl you're dating 1363 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,840 Speaker 2: hooks up somebody else with another woman. 1364 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm putting that down. 1365 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell Dan Horde that you're saying, Joe Burrow 1366 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 2: needs a woman. Yes, very good comments. Thank you very 1367 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 2: much for your call. Let's go to Tim and Mason, 1368 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 2: the home of the transmitter, and then Weston and Indianapolis. Tim, 1369 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 2: give me a full report. 1370 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,919 Speaker 10: Well, really, the full report is this, and I guess 1371 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 10: I'd go with other. I think as long as the 1372 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 10: Brown family owns the Bengals the Bungles, they're never going 1373 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 10: to win a Super Bowl. They're simply not willing to 1374 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 10: do what the other successful teams in the NFL do. 1375 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 10: Play and simple. 1376 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 2: I have a text here from Lincoln b Ware. Ever 1377 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 2: since Joe's been dating that model, his career has gone downhill. 1378 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Wasn't he with an 1379 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 2: influencer when his place was burglarized? 1380 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 10: He was originally with a very nice girl that he met, 1381 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 10: you know, years ago in Mason they were an item 1382 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 10: for a long time. I think she worked in Kroger 1383 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 10: or something. They went to Ohio State together. I wonder 1384 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 10: what happened to her. She was pretty, she was nice, 1385 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 10: but evidently, you know, you get a taste of the 1386 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 10: high life and you get all these chicks coming after. 1387 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 10: I mean, wasn't that one girl supposed to be in 1388 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 10: his house and was getting broken into or something? 1389 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 2: According to media accounts, the nicer Roguin gang was coming 1390 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 2: in the back window and she was in the front 1391 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 2: calling nine one one, having talked to her mother in 1392 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 2: New York City. This is a rather daffy woman who 1393 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 2: thinks nine to one one is in New York City 1394 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 2: and that wasn't a good situation. And Joe, I think 1395 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 2: it was playing football somewhere that night out of town 1396 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 2: and his home's burglarized stuff was tolen, and then the 1397 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 2: guys who stole it went on Facebook and put videos 1398 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 2: of them holding Joe Burrow stuff. Those weren't the sharpest 1399 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 2: knives in the you know what I'm saying. 1400 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 10: No, I think the curse of the Schnorf was on 1401 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 10: those goons. But you know the other thing is he 1402 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 10: needs to get in his batmobile and just go to 1403 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 10: an NFL city where he's going to be with an 1404 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 10: ownership that is willing to do what it takes to 1405 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 10: win a Super Bowl. 1406 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I think he needs to get away a little bit. 1407 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 1: I like BET's idea. 1408 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 2: Find him a nice woman, a local woman, maybe working 1409 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,680 Speaker 2: at Kroger, something like that would. 1410 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: Make some sense. 1411 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 10: I agree, Willie, as usual, You've got all the answers. 1412 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 2: God bless America. Let's continue with more. Let's go to 1413 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 2: Weston and Indianapolis. Hounds like a hotel and in Weston, 1414 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 2: give me a full report, all. 1415 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:36,639 Speaker 4: Right, man? 1416 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,759 Speaker 14: So first off, to mention Joe Burrow and Carson Palmer 1417 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 14: in the same sentence is disrespectful. They're not even in 1418 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 14: the same stratosphere. And Joe Burrow's not Andrew luck either. 1419 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 14: Andrew Luckton a love football. He played football on the side. 1420 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 14: Joe Andrew luck was not a football player. 1421 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is a football player. 1422 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 14: He's a competitor and the guy wants nothing more to 1423 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 14: tend to win. The reason he's voice in his frustrations 1424 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 14: are because he's won at every level in his life 1425 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 14: and he's never ever had to do a lose like this, 1426 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 14: especially when he's played well, for the most part, Joe 1427 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 14: Burrow coming out and saying that stuff, he's never going 1428 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 14: to actually say something about, oh, we need to fire 1429 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,559 Speaker 14: Zach Taylor, we need to make changes in the personnel department. 1430 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 14: But Joe Burrow coming out and voice and those frustrations 1431 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 14: is like that, that's what's gonna make him. 1432 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,719 Speaker 1: That's what sorry, that is what. 1433 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 14: Is going to lead him to behind the scenes in 1434 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 14: the offseason, tell them to make changes. 1435 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 10: And Joe Burrow is going to win a Super Bowl 1436 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 10: in Cincinnati. 1437 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 2: Putting that down. I like that, Pop, I have hope 1438 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 2: in my heart that's number two. Win a Super Bowl 1439 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 2: here before he becomes Andrew Luck or Carson Palmer, who, 1440 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 2: by the way, went to I think he went to 1441 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 2: the NFC Championship Game with the Cardinals having gone to 1442 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 2: the Raiders went to the Cardinals. But Joe's already done that. 1443 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 2: He's done that. He's spend the NFC Championship Game twice 1444 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: and he's won and one. And I think Patrick Mahomes 1445 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 2: has done He's got the ACL They had a good 1446 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 2: ten year run. But it's over all right now, Weston, 1447 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 2: I'm putting you down to win the Super Bowl, correct. 1448 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: God bless America. 1449 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1450 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Paul and Cleeves then don in thousands 1451 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 2: of others. Paul and kleif Eves, give me a full report. 1452 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 6: All right, Willy. What I think he needs to do 1453 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 6: is just like Carson Palmer did, walk into Mike Brown's office, 1454 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 6: put it on the put it on the table, and say, look, 1455 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 6: we're wasting talent, we're wasting time. Either you bony have 1456 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 6: some money or I'm out, and then take the money 1457 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 6: and run. 1458 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 2: Well, you know, he's tied to the Bengals for the 1459 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 2: next his contracts through twenty twenty nine, and he's he's owed, 1460 01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,879 Speaker 2: according to ESPN, about another two hundred and twenty million dollars. 1461 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 2: That's money even to you. And so this guy would 1462 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 2: have to walk away from two hundred and twenty million. 1463 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 2: That's like real money even even in your book. 1464 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 6: Yes, but he can actually want If he walks away 1465 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 6: from that money, maybe that will actually open the eyes 1466 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 6: of the ownership. Like they said, their scouting department is 1467 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 6: absolutely atrocious. 1468 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 4: Here. 1469 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 6: You look at we're half the size of the majority 1470 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 6: of the teams in the NFL's has their scouting department 1471 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 6: half the size? We can't scout great talent or even 1472 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 6: good talent. Right now, you look at the last three 1473 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 6: drafts that we've had, and they I couldn't tell you 1474 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 6: where we even got some of these players. 1475 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 1: Well, i'll make your note. So your vote. What's of 1476 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: the three? Is he car? So you say he's going 1477 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 1: to become Carson Carson Palmer? 1478 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 6: He should be Carson Palmer. Walk right in the Mike 1479 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 6: Brown's office and put it all on the line. 1480 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Does he need a girlfriend too, a good looking local girl. 1481 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 1: What do you think? 1482 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, I mean that, I mean he needs a 1483 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 6: girlfriend just in general. 1484 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to relieve some tension. All right, Paul, 1485 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 1: thank you for your call. 1486 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Let's continue now with Don and then Dan and millions 1487 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 2: of others, and don give me your analysis. What do 1488 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 2: the Bengals do? What does Joe Burrow do? The American 1489 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 2: people want to. 1490 01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 4: Know, Willie. 1491 01:11:52,560 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 13: The Cincinnati Bengals are where Heisman Trophy winners careers go 1492 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:07,560 Speaker 13: to die. Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow wasted their careers 1493 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 13: with this. With his team. Burrow's not going anywhere. He's 1494 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 13: going to ride it out until twenty twenty nine. He's 1495 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 13: not gonna win any Super Bowls. He might maybe get 1496 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 13: into a playoff game, but I doubt it because Mike 1497 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 13: Brown and the clowns running this team are gonna are 1498 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 13: gonna ruin his career and take. 1499 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 4: It away from him, just like they did. 1500 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 2: Carson Palmer throwing Archie Griffin. I think Cincinnati's had three 1501 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winners. Am I missing one? Archie Griffin back 1502 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 2: to back, Carson Palmer and then Joe Burrow. If they 1503 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 2: had any other Heisman Trophy winners here? 1504 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they just they Mike. 1505 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:55,400 Speaker 13: Mike Brown ruins these players. He skims on everything he's got. 1506 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 13: He's got the two bad probably the two best receivers 1507 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,839 Speaker 13: in in the NFL, in the best quarterback in the NFL, 1508 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 13: and he's ruined them. 1509 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,519 Speaker 2: All right, thank you for your call. We mark that down. 1510 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 2: We have Dan Rick and then Tony and that'll be 1511 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,799 Speaker 2: it and Dan and Dayton the Home of the Gems. 1512 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Give me a full report. You have about a thirty 1513 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,839 Speaker 2: eight seconds one two, three or other. 1514 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 4: Two. 1515 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,800 Speaker 13: The only way that Joe Burrow wins the super Bowl 1516 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:27,639 Speaker 13: in Cincinnati is if Mike Brown sells the teams that. 1517 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 2: It won't happen because the family's making about one hundred 1518 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 2: million dollars a year in cash plus the team is 1519 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 2: worth about four billion dollars. Would you sell something worth 1520 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,960 Speaker 2: four billion dollars and making one hundred million on the side? 1521 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how how old are they? 1522 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Brown's ninety? 1523 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 4: You got all that money too. 1524 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 2: Mike Brown's ninety? Yeah, all right, thank you for your call. 1525 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 2: We got your vote. We got Rick and then Tony 1526 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 2: and that'll be it Rick and Western Hills, the home 1527 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 2: of Ron's roost. Rick, give me a full report. 1528 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 15: I think the Begos are going to win to's Super 1529 01:13:58,640 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 15: Bowl next year. 1530 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 1: And I really do you believe if they. 1531 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,400 Speaker 15: Hire Bill Belichick as a general marriager and he can 1532 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 15: rebuild their defense and their offensive line to hire some 1533 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 15: joke yard dog type people. Yeah, he das you know, 1534 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 15: how to tackle people. And he's like his first round 1535 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,679 Speaker 15: draft pick, you don't want to play because it's called 1536 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 15: for you all, are going to hurt himself? 1537 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 6: Well do i't? 1538 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 15: They put him on the kickoff team, so he learns 1539 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:22,799 Speaker 15: how to tackle? 1540 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, how so hard is. 1541 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 15: The learn out of a handle men? You know, young men? 1542 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,479 Speaker 15: Half a billion dollars and what do they do? They 1543 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 15: play around and take it easy and they're not tough. 1544 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: You know, May I go to Canadian Football. 1545 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 15: League to grab some people who really want to tackle 1546 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 15: hard to break the Devin here. 1547 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 2: Make Bill Belichick the GM, and maybe John Gruden the coach. 1548 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Last call Tony. So far we've got two two, got 1549 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,560 Speaker 2: two three, two two and one and Tony from Cincinnati 1550 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 2: give me one two three or other? 1551 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 1: What is it? 1552 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,320 Speaker 11: I'm in column three, Willie all the way. 1553 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 1: There's just a. 1554 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 11: Few decisions away from turning this thing around. Long as 1555 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 11: we have Burrow, it means the world. We just need 1556 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 11: to bring in a new coach, a new GM, turn 1557 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 11: things around, and it'll happen. 1558 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 13: I guarantee it. 1559 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1560 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 2: The majority of Bengals fans said the Bengals will win 1561 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with Joe Burrow. All we have is hope, 1562 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 2: keep hope alive. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WW. 1563 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,679 Speaker 16: And of course I'm going to say a few words 1564 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 16: about the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia. 1565 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:25,719 Speaker 4: Okay. 1566 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 16: So, and first, of course, as I always say, no 1567 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 16: matter what, go Bills. 1568 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots today. 1569 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,719 Speaker 4: It's a big deal. 1570 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 12: Hello, Hello, Buiet, I'm. 1571 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 2: Broadcasting so Rocky, your friend Chuck Schumer just said go 1572 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 2: bills in reference to the Australian shooting of a fifteen 1573 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 2: Jews and forty other people. 1574 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:54,679 Speaker 1: He said, go bills. 1575 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 2: Before we get to play that again, Dave, because I'm 1576 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 2: not sure the rock heard at all. 1577 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 16: Of course, I'm going to say a few words about 1578 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 16: the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia. Okay, So when first, 1579 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 16: of course, as I always say, no matter what, go bills. 1580 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 1: They beat the Patriots today. 1581 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 4: It's a big deal. 1582 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 17: So before he makes a statement on a pretty serious matter, 1583 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 17: he has go bills. 1584 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 2: Maybe he's running for real elections? Is do you have 1585 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 2: a concern? I have the flash poll right here, Rocky. 1586 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,639 Speaker 2: Here are the results fire Away one, two, three, before 1587 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 2: we go to the segment, and four Joe Burrow Number one. 1588 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 2: What's going to happen next? 1589 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:33,839 Speaker 4: Okay? 1590 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 2: One couch one Andrew Luck. Joe Burrow becomes Andrew Luck. 1591 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 2: After six years, you might recall your friend Andrew Luck 1592 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 2: missed an entire season, then he came back, took the 1593 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 2: Colts of the playoffs and said I don't want to. 1594 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 1: Do it anymore. I'm done. 1595 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 2: Number two Joe Burrow becomes Carson Palmer walks into Mike 1596 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 2: Brown's office and I can't take it anymore. I don't 1597 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 2: want to play football anymore. I'm not setting foot inside 1598 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 2: pay Cop anymore. Trey me, I'm not playing here anymore. 1599 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Or three he wins the Super Bowl for Cincinnati. 1600 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,920 Speaker 1: Is the only three I get. But the people have 1601 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: responded right there. I don't know if there's gonna be 1602 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 1: any of them. 1603 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 17: I don't see him winning a super Bowl next year, 1604 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 17: but I don't I don't know if I see him 1605 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 17: quitting next year. 1606 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 1: Hey, what do you see? I need an answer? Answer 1607 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: the question? You got one? 1608 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 4: Or three? 1609 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Can I get a fourth option? You got a fourth? 1610 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:23,599 Speaker 4: Say? 1611 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Is there a fourth option? I don't know. Is there no? 1612 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 4: No? 1613 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,479 Speaker 2: You gotta pick one. What's more likely to happen? Super 1614 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 2: Bowl win by Joe Burrow. He walks into Mike Brown's 1615 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 2: office Carson Palmers style and says, I can't take it anymore. 1616 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 2: Or he quits after six or seven years with fifty 1617 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 2: one hundred million in his pocket. 1618 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 17: I want to introduce a fourth option. Let me write 1619 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 17: it down, all right, let me ready. 1620 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,400 Speaker 1: Which is finishes out? 1621 01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 17: This season, has a little moving offseason, takes a deep 1622 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,839 Speaker 17: breath and gets back to playing football. 1623 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: That's what I think we gotta call. 1624 01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,759 Speaker 2: Beth from Lawrenceburg says he needs a low coold girlfriend. 1625 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Leave the influencers, lead. 1626 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 17: The runway girlfriend gal to cook, you know, and he's 1627 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 17: gonna take care of him and not be doing tiktoks 1628 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 17: all the time like half the Bengals wives and girlfriends do. 1629 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 1: They don't want to do that. It's just too much. 1630 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Somebody needs somebody. 1631 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 17: I imagine his heart being him because he can't go 1632 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 17: out in public, right, so he can't. He has like 1633 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 17: sit in this house of his that he has and 1634 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 17: just kind of hang out by himself. He needs a 1635 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 17: good Midwestern woman, you know about you know, Sarah of her. 1636 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,759 Speaker 17: That's I don't know if that would be a good idea. 1637 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:45,200 Speaker 2: So he needs a homegrown she's married somebody like that. 1638 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 17: Yeah, a mount Notre Dame Saint Ursula Seaton. 1639 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 2: Did you see the Netflix special on him? I saw 1640 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 2: it at the end of Quarterback. Yeah, he's playing the 1641 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 2: panel by himself. He's lonely, staring into the abysses like 1642 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, Zach used to stare into the abyss and 1643 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 2: so he needs a woman to occupy his time. 1644 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: Talents and get away from it. Whatever. That high school 1645 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: girlfriend that he had got rid of her. 1646 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:11,600 Speaker 2: He got rid of and then then he got the 1647 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 2: got the influencer, the one that was there for the burglary. 1648 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 2: How did that work out? Kicked her out? Now he's 1649 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 2: with a runway model. I got her name here if 1650 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:20,839 Speaker 2: you're interested. 1651 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 17: Yeah, strictly for research purposes. 1652 01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,640 Speaker 1: What's your name? First name is Jordan. Here we go 1653 01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: just never ends. 1654 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 17: But it was a tough It was a tough day 1655 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 17: for the hometown team. 1656 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:38,120 Speaker 1: Really, and you're up there sitting on a bag of 1657 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 1: home city ice. 1658 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 8: I mean, how many times are you shut out in 1659 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,600 Speaker 8: your pro career with the Colts or Titans? 1660 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Ever? Shut out? 1661 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 17: I can't remember getting shut out now. 1662 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 1: So do we figure out what happened? What was the 1663 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 1: reason the seats weren't clean? Was it a yes? 1664 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 17: A they thought somebody did it and they didn't do it. 1665 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,720 Speaker 17: Be they didn't hire somebody to do it because they 1666 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 17: didn't want to pay them. 1667 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 1: Or see is there a C? 1668 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah or c? 1669 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,720 Speaker 1: Did they just think it wasn't important? I don't care? 1670 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 4: Right? 1671 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 1: Did you see a lot they did? 1672 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 8: They did clean the uh entrance way to the to 1673 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 8: the gates and the aisleways and all that stuff. But 1674 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 8: apparently that's all you need to do in the NFL. 1675 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 17: But you couldn't get in half the other teams. I'm 1676 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 17: sure you saw the tweets and clear everything out. Yeah, 1677 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 17: you pay some was it? I guess the Eagles are 1678 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 17: the bills. 1679 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 8: They make twenty dollars an hour. You get free food 1680 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 8: and everything at a ticket. So again, did they a 1681 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 8: forget to do that? Be just say uh, hell with it? 1682 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 8: Because if they said, the hell with. 1683 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 17: It in today's world, and why did they not want 1684 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 17: to pay it? 1685 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 2: Well, the fans pay thousands of dollars and they can't 1686 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 2: sit there. And the Bengals pressure release said just brush 1687 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 2: the snow away? Where do you brush it? To the 1688 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,679 Speaker 2: guy in front of you? The person next to froz 1689 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:53,799 Speaker 2: See is frozen. What do you brush it? It's like, hey, peasant, 1690 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 2: eat some cake. I think there's people down there stuck 1691 01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:58,839 Speaker 2: to the seats. 1692 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,240 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they do that? What's your opinion? What's your opinion? 1693 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,840 Speaker 1: How about today? I think they don't care. That's what 1694 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of. 1695 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,919 Speaker 8: One guy had a tweet said I got too hot chocolates. 1696 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 8: They were called ice cold. The one guy, the guy 1697 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 8: saying guy said, I got a beer it was frozen 1698 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 8: and all this stuff. And I've been I've been up 1699 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 8: back in this team since it began. 1700 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 1: They not think of it, or they think of it 1701 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: and going a hell of it. It'll be all right. 1702 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 1: Not any concession stands are open. 1703 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,559 Speaker 2: Gets next time money in. You gotta get your money 1704 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 2: in already for twenty twenty six. Okay, get your money in, 1705 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 2: know your roll and shut your mouth. 1706 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: And secondly, Joe. 1707 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 17: I just wonder if the I sometimes think that the 1708 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 17: franchise operates under like a nineteen eighty five way of thinking, 1709 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 17: which is like we're, you know, paying somebody a certain 1710 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,760 Speaker 17: amount of people a couple thousand dollars to clear it 1711 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 17: was like, that's not really great for the bottom line. 1712 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 17: But this is twenty twenty five. This is a multi 1713 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 17: billion dollar industry. This is not nineteen seventy five. We're like, God, 1714 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 17: if we got to you know, at times. 1715 01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: Ten thousand, you know what I'm saying. 1716 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 18: You can talk to people anytime anywhere. 1717 01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,639 Speaker 2: See, he thinks telephones are just recently invented, and he's 1718 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 2: ninety years old. For God's sakes, He's not going to 1719 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 2: change his waist. He was born like an eighteen eighty five. 1720 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 17: But all the stuff they do, like like not having 1721 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 17: like having the smallest recruitings or draft evaluation staff. That's 1722 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 17: like a like a mid nineteen eighties way of thinking. 1723 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 18: Nice for that because we run with a lighter crew 1724 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 18: than some other teams do. But I don't know that 1725 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 18: we do badly there. We picked up Reggie Nelson this year. 1726 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 18: That's a pretty good acquisition. 1727 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,600 Speaker 17: See, what what do most businesses do, whether they that 1728 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 17: are you know, say they're kind of mid tier. Usually 1729 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,720 Speaker 17: what they do is they give a good what are 1730 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 17: the ones that are the ones that are on the top? 1731 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 1: But what are they? Okay, that's them a r What 1732 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 1: do they do? What are the three things they do? 1733 01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 17: Now, if we're not doing those three things, we should 1734 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 17: do those three things and maybe one up the top. 1735 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 17: I mean, that's pretty that's what they do. That's what 1736 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 17: It's simple. You're making no sense at all. 1737 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,440 Speaker 2: If you don't think you have a problem in your community, 1738 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 2: you're probably wrong. 1739 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 8: They give me some sports, will he The student reporters 1740 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 8: of Proud Service, every local Thamestar heating and air conditioning 1741 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,599 Speaker 8: dealers thamestar quality could feel in Cincinnati, Coles Sheldon Braun 1742 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,840 Speaker 8: at Braun heating at five one, three three eighty five 1743 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:26,120 Speaker 8: seventy seven sixty five. I need something today college football 1744 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 8: Willie quarterback Brendan Soorsby got this one wrong, is opting 1745 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,719 Speaker 8: out of the Liberty Bowl and has entered the trashy world. 1746 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,559 Speaker 2: You're calling the game without without Soresby. I had him 1747 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 2: playing quarterback for the Bengals after about four weeks, and 1748 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,559 Speaker 2: now he's going to get four million dollars playing for. 1749 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Who say, whoever wants him. You see, he's been, he's been. 1750 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,760 Speaker 8: Rumors are that he's been offered four million dollars by 1751 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 8: different schools, a couple of them in the Southeastern Conference. 1752 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:53,640 Speaker 4: We would you do? 1753 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 1: Take the money and run? 1754 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 4: There you go? 1755 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Please continue? 1756 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 8: Uh, let's see NFL news. Green Bay linebacker Michael Parsons 1757 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 8: it's all official. He is out for the rest of 1758 01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,719 Speaker 8: the season with a torn ACL yesterday and he faces 1759 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 8: a nine month recovery. Patrick Mahomes, who also has an 1760 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,800 Speaker 8: ACL tear yesterday, will head for Dallas and get a 1761 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 8: second opinion from doctors. They say he may not be 1762 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 8: back until after the beginning of next season. 1763 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty seven, right, correct? So Rock your reaction. 1764 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 17: Why are these all these guys getting hurt? Are there 1765 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 17: too many games or not enough practice? What is it 1766 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 17: too much practice? 1767 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 1: Someone's got to be evaluated ACLS constantly. 1768 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 2: It's not like they practice a lot. Fuck to Dave 1769 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 2: Lapham about. 1770 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,599 Speaker 17: Practice stand Yeah, they rocked practice, man. We're talking about 1771 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 17: practice man. So you you think with all these injuries, 1772 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,759 Speaker 17: players are excited to add an eighteenth game to the season. 1773 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 1: They're excited. They're very excited. They can't wait. Yea't wait 1774 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: to get the game. Yeah, a lot of games. 1775 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:59,080 Speaker 8: College Basketball AP Top twenty five Arizona one, Michigan two, 1776 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 8: Duke Is three, Produe is six, Louisville eleventh. Miami the 1777 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 8: ten and O RedHawks got four votes this week, up 1778 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 8: from two last week from two last week. They're thirty seventh, 1779 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 8: and Miami is just one of seven undefeated teams left 1780 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 8: in college basketball at the date. 1781 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 2: Couldn't coach at X He's coaching at Miami. Another question 1782 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 2: for you, Rock, who's in worse shape? 1783 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:29,599 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore? There, that's it. How about how. 1784 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,160 Speaker 2: About Wes Miller. Don't get me in this mess? Wes 1785 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 2: Wes Miller. How about Zach Shu Sharon is going to 1786 01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,520 Speaker 2: prison according to the sentencing guidelines? 1787 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: Is Zach Tannler going to prison? No? I don't. Okay, 1788 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 1: so good? You don't what to go to No, you 1789 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 1: don't want to go to prison? No, stay out of 1790 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 1: prison with his crown? 1791 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 2: Well, it was it was a lot of things like 1792 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,680 Speaker 2: breaking into someone's home, what with his crawd, trying to 1793 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 2: beat the crap out of her? 1794 01:25:55,960 --> 01:26:00,040 Speaker 1: What was his wire fraud? And paying off witnesses? What 1795 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 1: his crime there? It is? 1796 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,759 Speaker 2: I did my best. I can't convince him of anything. 1797 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 2: That's our good friend. Benjamin Crump. What was his crime? 1798 01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:08,560 Speaker 17: Lies? 1799 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:12,519 Speaker 1: Speaks up? All right? 1800 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:15,760 Speaker 17: So so you through the question to me and say 1801 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 17: about what Joe Burrow does next year? 1802 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,880 Speaker 1: What do you say? Yeah? Why don't you answer the 1803 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 1: question for one question? Yeah? 1804 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 17: Caon Palmer, Andrew Locke or super Bowl? I think those 1805 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,480 Speaker 17: three options. I think the super. 1806 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 2: Bowl is more likely. However, that's not likely. Would you 1807 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:33,960 Speaker 2: agree or not? 1808 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 1: It's pretty tough surely for next year. 1809 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna turn down two hundred and 1810 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:39,920 Speaker 2: seventy five million dollars. 1811 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,599 Speaker 1: Is that like a chunky No? And I don't think 1812 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna quit. Joe Burrow, I think he's going to quit. 1813 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna get through this season quick? 1814 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 15: I don't know. 1815 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna play? 1816 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 3: There? 1817 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 1: Are they gonna play in the rest of the season. 1818 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: He's smart, He's gonna play. 1819 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 17: Get through the off season, gonna get away from it. 1820 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,200 Speaker 17: Go to Tahiti with a couple of models and. 1821 01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 1: Stuff, take away models. How about one girl. He's almost 1822 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,639 Speaker 1: thirty years old. That's the time. 1823 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 2: Talk to his I like his mom and dad. Talk 1824 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,640 Speaker 2: to mama and say, Mama, what should I do? 1825 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,599 Speaker 17: He's a good Midwestern girl who doesn't have an ig 1826 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 17: account or a TikTok account and none that stuff. Just 1827 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 17: one thing. Have kids and take care of him and 1828 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 17: raise a family. 1829 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,120 Speaker 1: That's what he needs. He used to have children. 1830 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 17: Knows that they know how to cook right and cook 1831 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,200 Speaker 17: nice meals, create a nice home. 1832 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,240 Speaker 1: That's what he needs. All he does is playing the 1833 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 1: pan and look at the Ohio river. 1834 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 17: Very lonely. 1835 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 1: He's a lonely man. 1836 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,720 Speaker 17: I saw it a bit with with Peyton Man and 1837 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,360 Speaker 17: he couldn't go out of his house. But he was 1838 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 17: like he was always playing at a high level. So 1839 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 17: wherever he went, people were like, you know, how about 1840 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 17: he couldn't go anywhere? 1841 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 2: You know Roy Orbison? Of course, only the lonely was 1842 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 2: he's singing about Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is lonely. Needs 1843 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 2: a woman, a good woman, midwestern woman, good stock, thirty legs, 1844 01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 2: broad hips. 1845 01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,559 Speaker 1: He had good shout bear and hips. 1846 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 17: That's what exactly, big hips, those skinny you know model. 1847 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:10,839 Speaker 17: We need somebody with you know, give me yeah, only alone? 1848 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 2: Remember him? You liked him, didn't you know? He's the 1849 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,960 Speaker 2: best big Oh he's the big old rock. What's on 1850 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,520 Speaker 2: the big show today? Trying to get a little matchmaking here? 1851 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,559 Speaker 2: He may have trouble meeting a woman. Is that possible? 1852 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 1: He has had a ship, and I don't think so. 1853 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,000 Speaker 1: They'd they'd be lining up from him. 1854 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 17: He has trouble meeting the right woman because he's around. 1855 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that he is. Only fans have no idea. He's 1856 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,760 Speaker 1: on there all the time, only fans. I am. 1857 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 17: You should have an only fans account. Say sure, there's 1858 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,320 Speaker 17: a market for that. Make a few extra bucks on 1859 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 17: the side side, hustle Sarah. Now if you got her 1860 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 17: on it, you probably would't make Some storms are brilliant 1861 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 17: her eyes. Believe me storms, what's on the big show? 1862 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 17: Rock Eddie and I are going to discuss the Bengals 1863 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 17: game yesterday, and we're going to take calls from people 1864 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,599 Speaker 17: that were there. I want to know from versus mouth 1865 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 17: what happened. 1866 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 1: We need to know the story. 1867 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 17: How come the gates weren't open forty to fifty minutes 1868 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 17: before the game? 1869 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 2: I'll come as after the first quarter you couldn't move, 1870 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 2: You were stuck to the seat. 1871 01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,759 Speaker 1: You couldn't move. You leave your flesh on the seats. 1872 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,719 Speaker 2: To hell with the fans and the crowd of paying 1873 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 2: the bills we already got ours. Is that it sad 1874 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,639 Speaker 2: Get me out of never have your tongue s touched 1875 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,720 Speaker 2: and it stuck on a metal pool. No seg give 1876 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 2: me out of the student's report only fans Willian Hotter 1877 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 2: of warmer days ahead. We leave you with the immortal 1878 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 2: words of the stewed report. 1879 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 16: If they keep going away, they're going I don't know 1880 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:39,599 Speaker 16: what's going happen in our city. 1881 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:46,080 Speaker 2: Sidely said that, and Sideley's laid down the law on 1882 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW