1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Are to welcome in once again the one time Vice 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Chris Smitheman. And Chris Smitheman, 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: how you doing today, Hey. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing good, brother. Thank you so much for having me, Hon. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: It's certainly good to hear your White House listening to 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: this Epstein file's list, and one of the things I 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: was doing, I said, well, I hope he doesn't say 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: my name. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: No, you are, you're not. Look, you're an a list 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: or in my book, but you didn't make that list. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of big names on there. 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: And you texted me Mike Pence question mark. Yeah, So 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: I mean, look, people need to understand just because your 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: name is on that list doesn't mean it. I mean, 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley are in the Epstein file, 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: so it could be it could be any reference. Again, 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: and they talked about Look, did they talk about articles 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: that are mentioned in their emails that went back and forth, 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: the stuff that is not connected to any of the 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: And look, I don't I don't mean to make light. 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: I laugh a little bit, but I don't mean to 22 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: take light of any of the atrocities, any of the 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: illegal stuff that went on with regard to Epstein. Chris 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Smith and I think we're of the same mind on 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: this that if there are individual that engaged in some 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: of these horrific acts with young women and abuse them 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: in any way, laid a hand on them, did anything 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: like that, I don't care who they are, they need 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: to be held accountable for that. 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: Go to jail. One hundred percent. I agree, throw away 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: the key. No matter what the political party, and no 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: matter what their status is in America or the world, 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: they all should go to jail. One percent agree. Very 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: serious topic, a very serious topic, and my heart goes 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: out to all of the victims that were involved in 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: the Epstein sex scandal. It was horrible, horrible for our country. 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Let me start off and say this to you. Let 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: me just give a shout out personally, if you'll allow 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: me some professional courtesy to a Seaton swim team. You 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: did a great job this weekend. Yeah, you know, my 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: daughter is a varsity swimmer. I'm so proud of her. 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: But I like to talk about the team and this big, 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: big picture. And there was one young lady, her name 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: was Sarah, and Sarah swam and she lost. It's one 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: of these lessons that I you know, we try to 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: tell young people. And what I loved about this situation 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: is Sarah came over to her mom and came to 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: her family for support. My family gave her that support, 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: which was awesome. Then she went and did a warm 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: down and came back and won the next race. It 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 2: was such an amazing lesson, and it was like, here 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: she is swimming, and she's like, no, this is I'm Sarah, 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get back in this pool and 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it happen. It was one of the 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: most remarkable swims that I've seen in the four years 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: my daughter's been swimming. But my hat's off Seaton and 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: let me just jump right into this id stuff. Man. Look, 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: African Americans are not dumb. We are very smart. I 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: am tired of Democratic leaders playing us, manipulating us, acting 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: as if we don't know our history. 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: Dan Carroll well of the composite by Democrats across the 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: board on this. 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: We are not stupid, and that is why you see 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: so many African Americans, I think it's in the seventies 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: have seventy percent, seventy three or seventy five percent have 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: no problems with IDs to vote. You need an ID 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: to buy alcohol, you need an ID to get in 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: and visit your congressional member. You need an ID to 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: cast your government check. You need an ID to open 70 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: up a bank account, you need a ID to buy cigarettes, 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: you need an ID to go into a club. I mean, 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: there's nowhere in America you don't need an ID. This 73 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: notion that African Americans are walking around without our identification, 74 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: whether that's a state ID or whether it's a driver's license, 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: is insane. And so the notion, the reality of it 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: is when I heard Schumer, and I'm serious about this, 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: this is the stuff that makes me really angry. This 78 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: Democrat talking about poll taxes and Jim Crow. The audacity 79 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 2: of him to have that come out of his mouth 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: when he knows that it was the Democrats in the 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: South that brought us the poll tax. It's the Democrats 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: in the South that brought us Jim Crow right. The 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: reality is George Wallace, the governor, said degregation today, degregation tomorrow, 84 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: segregation forever. That was a Democrat for him to get 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: out there and act as if African Americans are now 86 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: going to connect the voter ID, meaning we want elections 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: that are free in America. We want elections that are 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: fair in America. I don't have any African Americans walking 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: around in my life in my circle, which is pretty 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: big saying hey, I have a problem with this, and 91 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: also that I am interested in having a democratic process 92 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: that is fair. When the election is over, we want 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: to know. Here's what this is about. This is all 94 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: about having people illegally vote in our elections. And so 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: you have Democrats that are literally saying, listen, photo IDs 96 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: is undermining the black community, is undermining poor white people. 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: What are they talking about. They act as if we're fools. 98 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: This is about people that they want to vote in 99 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: our elections illegally. And so the whole ice thing that 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about has everything to do with the same 101 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: thing I'm talking about right now. And I will say 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: to you this is why they try The Democrats are 103 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: trying to dumb down African American voters. And I promise 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: you we are not taking debate. 105 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, chris villeman, stay right there. We've got 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: to get to a quick break and we'll continue on 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: the other side. On fifty five KRCV talk station seven 108 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: nine back with Christopher Smith Smithman and the Smith event, 109 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: and so Chris Smitherman, you know, you were talking about 110 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: this notion of Jim Crow two point zero, And I 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: just wonder how do we get to the point in 112 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: this country to where we cannot even agree on things. 113 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I just read a piece where John Kennedy got President 114 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: Trump to sign a bill into law that we stop 115 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: sending government checks to people who have passed away, and 116 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: he got for four years. He got pushback on that. 117 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Of course, the notion that you would have to show 118 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: id and we want to have secure elections, we get 119 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: pushed back on that. When USAID was exposed for sending 120 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: these billions of dollars overseas for all these idiotic, stupid 121 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: activities and things that were being supported by American taxpayer dollars, 122 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: there is still pushback on people who don't want to 123 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: end any of that. In some cases federal judges say 124 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: that you have to keep sending that money overseas. How 125 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: do we on issues like this where everybody should be 126 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: just on the most basic level of the same mind 127 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: to stop this fraud, waste, and abuse. How do we 128 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: get so separated on issues like that that we can't 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: even find common ground? To bring those kind of common 130 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: sense things to a reasonable conclusion, because. 131 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: A lot of those democratic organizations who are receiving that 132 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: fraudulent money are paying. 133 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: Off the protesters that you're seeing in our streets. And 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: so this is how money flows through federal governments, goes 135 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: into these nonprofit organizations, and they then send the money 136 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: out across the world to undermine the interests of America. 137 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: That is what is happening. It's not complicated, and I 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: know you know it, and that braw continues to be 139 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: exposed right now. We're seeing it in one part of 140 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: the country, but it's all over the country. And the 141 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: government shutdown. A lot of people don't know we're in 142 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: a government shutdown. Csa H aren't being paid. Eventually, it's 143 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: going to impact flights like it did the last time. 144 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: You'll see the Transportation Secretary come out. Secretary Transportation Duffy's 145 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: going to come out and say we've got to start 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: reducing flight ten percent, twenty percent as long as this 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: thing goes on. So remember the heart of this is 148 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: they're saying they want ICE to be brought under control. 149 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: The reality is every democratic and Republican president used ice, 150 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: deported people out of this country. As a matter of fact, 151 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: President Barack Obama did it. Tom Homan was his guy, 152 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: the guy that is now working for President Trump. People 153 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: forget that he was given an award by President Obama 154 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: for the great job he did for These are all 155 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: true things. When you tell Democrats these things, it makes 156 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: them so angry. Like I'm just telling the truth. No 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: one comes behind me when I get off this radio 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: and say, hey man, Dan Carroll, what that guy did 159 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: just wasn't true. Let me correct the record. They can't 160 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: say that the discussion that we're having is false. They 161 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: just say, why is he talking about it? And when 162 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: he talks about it, they then start throwing insults. Well, 163 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: he's not black, he's an uncle Tom, he's a sellout, 164 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: he's all these things, Like, for example, when I say 165 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: Lincoln signed an executive order for the Emancipation Proclamation, fact 166 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: he was a Republican. When you go into our Cincinnati 167 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: public schools, they'll say the Emancipation Proclamation was signed. They 168 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: might say that Lincoln signed it or or initiated it, 169 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: but they'll never say Lincoln necessarily was a Republican. They'll 170 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: never say. They'll say the Thirteenth Amendment brought freedom to 171 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: African Americans in this country, but they'll never tell you 172 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: who voted for it. They'll never say Republicans voted for 173 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: the Thirteenth Amendment and disproportionately Democrats voted against it. So 174 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: the problem with what we're dealing with a lot with 175 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: our education is our public school systems and our school 176 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: systems in general, continue to fail our children. They're unwilling 177 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: to tell the truth about our history. So you and 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: I are always having conversations out of content. If I 179 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: said who George Wallace is, they would say, well, I 180 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: kind of know about George Wallace. If I said segregation today, 181 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: segregation tomorrow, segregation forever, people would say, yes, I remember that. 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: That's a famous quote. But they'll never tell you that 183 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: that was a Democrat who said that. Who is down 184 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: there blocking our children from getting a good education in America? 185 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,479 Speaker 2: We're talking black Americans. The problem is all of the misinformation. 186 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: The way you can give information is you can tell 187 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: us the old truth, or you can just say I'm 188 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: not gonna I'm gonna leave large pieces of history out 189 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: and so they just don't talk about it. The point 190 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: is that's why this id conversation we're having a showdown 191 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: regarding Ice. If you go out and you pull Americans, 192 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: you don't tell them Republican or Democrats. You just say, listen, 193 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: do you think somebody should come into our country illegally? 194 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 2: Do you think that a country should have open borders? 195 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: People will say no, I don't think that. No, I 196 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: don't think that. Right. If you say, well, what do 197 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: you think about ice? I don't know about ice. Because 198 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: they're pumping this thing up that Ice is so bad 199 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: that these men and women, these federal agents that are 200 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: out there pulling rapists, murderers, gang members out of our 201 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: communities in some way are bad. They're not bad, Dan Carroll. 202 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: These people are out here doing their job. Now, are 203 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: there mistakes? Yes, are people caught up in the drag 204 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: net at sometimes yes, that's true, But our system has 205 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: to sort that out. But the reality of it is, 206 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: if you came into the country illegally, you came in 207 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: here illegally. This notion that you didn't break the law. 208 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: If you ask Democrats, coming into the country for them 209 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: is not illegal. It is illegal. If you come into 210 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: our country illegally, you've already broken the law. So then 211 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: when you get behind a car, you're drinking, you're driving, 212 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: and you kill an American family, We're gonna deport you. 213 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna prosecute you and deport you. I don't understand why, 214 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: in your initial comment to me, why that's not common 215 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: ground for every single American in this country. I don't 216 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: understand it. Evil. 217 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know in law locally, when I see 218 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: these high school kids walking out of turp In High school, 219 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: they walked down a walna and it surprised me a 220 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: little bit. Wanta Hill's High School fell for this hook 221 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: line and sinker. They had a walk out. Princeton High 222 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: School just last week, had kids walk out and they 223 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: and they talk about how they're anti ice and they 224 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: don't want ice rounding up immigrants, and I wonder how 225 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: much they really know about these issues. And when you 226 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: listen to them speak, it turns out all they're doing 227 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: is just repeating the same DNC talking points on this 228 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: that you can hear just about anywhere. And it doesn't 229 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: seem like they're really getting an education on this at 230 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: all and getting the full story, which they should be 231 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: getting if they would stay in class. Chris, you got 232 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: time for one more segment, right, all right? Stay right there. 233 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: We'll get to a quick break and continue on with 234 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: chrispin on seven on fifty five KRS Detalk Station seven 235 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: thirty nine. On this Monday morning, we continue our conversation 236 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: with Chris Smithman and the smith Event and Chris. Today 237 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: the Inquirer has a piece about the police chief. What's 238 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: happening with the investigation. That's a city Halls act, a 239 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,359 Speaker 1: black hole of information as far as that is concerned. 240 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine laid out what happened over the weekend 241 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. A bloody twenty four hours and early morning 242 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: shooting on Saturday morning on a bus left a driver dead, 243 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: a man shot in the face on Greenwood Avenue, a 244 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: seventeen year old shot on Hawaiian terraced. Then we had 245 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: the shooting that left too dead at a at a 246 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: North Side establishment. So it appears that we are two 247 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: months into the new year and things are status quo 248 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: unfortunately at city Hall. 249 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: And I see, you know Signal ninety nine is correct. 250 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: I mean this is happening in the winter, imagine as 251 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: things warm up and we moved it to the and 252 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: again we have elections have consequences, Dan Carroll, and you've 253 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 3: got a council down there that they do not support 254 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: the police department. 255 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: We're talking nine of them collectively. We've got a mayor 256 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: who does not support the police department, and so they 257 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: don't feel supported. They know that if they have a 258 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: critical incident out here that this council and this mayor 259 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: and this administration is going to throw them under the bus. 260 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: And so we're going to have chaos in our streets. 261 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: And it's why so many citizens are staying home. It's 262 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: better just to cook at home, watch a movie at home. 263 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: You know, when you speak about what happened at the 264 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: North Side, Dan Carroll, that's a mass shooting. Right, four 265 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: people being shot is a mass shooting. That's a mass shooting. 266 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: We had a mass shooting this weekend in Cincinnati. That's reality. 267 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: And then all the other shootings you had on a bus, 268 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: these people shot in the face and all of that 269 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Now, when you say all of that, 270 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: you know what's so crazy is it doesn't even deal 271 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: with the car that were broken into, the people that 272 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: were assaulted, the people that were stabbed. I mean, there's 273 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: also this other underbelly of things that are happening. We 274 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: only talk about the shootings, but they're burglaries that are 275 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: happening out here. You've got windows being broken out of cars, 276 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: and people's cars are being stolen all over the city 277 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: of Cincinnati. And we've got a mayor and a council 278 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: passing resolutions about ice and things that are happening in 279 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: US in Minnesota, which is none of their dog on business. 280 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: And so they're so distracted on these matters, and what 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: they're all trying to do is run for other things, 282 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: Dan Carroll. You've got a mayor who wants he knows 283 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: he's turned out. He's thinking about his next move, so 284 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: he wants a grand stand to the base. You've got 285 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: nine members of council. You got them out there running 286 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: for other offices right now as they are members of council. 287 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: They're grand standing on other issues, and they're completely distracted 288 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: about the city business, Dan Carroll. And the sad part 289 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: about it is, as we're in Black History Month, most 290 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: of those people being shot are African Americans. That's the 291 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: crazy thing about it. It has nothing to do with guns. 292 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: It has everything to do with culture. It has everything 293 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: to do with broken families, it has everything to do 294 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: with fatherless homes. It has everything to do with being 295 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: absent from your families and taking care of your business, 296 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: and governments can't solve this. That's why we need the 297 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: police department out there doing proactive policing, making sure that 298 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: they're stopping cars and feeling like they are not going 299 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: to be murdered because traffic stops aren't normal. There are 300 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: no normal traffic stops anymore in America. These windows are tenant. 301 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: You don't know what's going on in the back of 302 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: that car, and an officer saying, I get to go 303 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: home to my wife and my kids, just like everybody else, 304 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Dan Carolyn. So the reality of it is when you 305 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: have an anti cop council and anti cop mayor, as 306 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: you have an anti cop administration, you have mayhem in 307 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: the streets. That's why you have people saying Cincinnati has 308 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,359 Speaker 2: got them city. Now, why with someone come to downtown Cincinnati. 309 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: I respect those businesses that are in downtown Cincinnati, but 310 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: I'm not willing to risk my life and I'm not 311 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: willing to have my fire on take somebody else's life 312 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: and ruin my own life. So people are avoiding our 313 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: core right now, and if our core is dying, the 314 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: city is dying, and we have a mayor and a 315 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 2: council absolutely not interested in fixing the problem. 316 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you make a good point when 317 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: you talk about a mayor who is turning. If I'm 318 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: not mistaken, he is term limited out. So this is 319 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: the last time that Aftab Purval is going to be 320 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: serving a term as mayor of Cincinnati. And all indicators 321 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: are is that he is occupying his time looking for 322 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: whatever his next position is going to be. So does 323 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: that mean that the city of Cincinnati, that the business 324 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: of the people of Cincinnati sort of gets put on 325 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: his back burner and that he's got more pressing issues 326 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: to attend to. 327 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: Yes, that's why you see him on CNN. That's why 328 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: he was on CNN. That's why you'll see him on MSNBC. 329 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: This guy is interested in running national he wants to 330 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: be on somebody's ticket. He's trying to figure out what 331 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: his next move is. And then the nine members of 332 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: counselor are grand standing on who's going to be the 333 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: next mayor. So they're all down there pivoting for the 334 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: next step, the next election, the who's going to be 335 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: the next mayor. They are not focused on our city 336 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: and I will tell you, Look, the most important business 337 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: of any mayor is keeping us safe. There's nothing more important. 338 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: I don't think if you, if you survey all the neighborhoods, 339 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: what's your number one issue? Being safe? They are absent 340 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: on the number one issue, meaning fire and police. I 341 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: want to make sure that if I have a fire, 342 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: or my loved one is having a heart attack, I've 343 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: got EMS or a firefighter to respond. Or if there's 344 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: an if there's an active shooter, or there something critical 345 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: happening in my life and I called nine to one one, 346 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that someone calls. How do 347 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: we have nine to one one call center? Any employee 348 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: posting up where ICE people are on Facebook? That's insane? 349 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: You know this active? How does that happen, Dad Carroll? 350 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: Where somebody working over at the nine one one call 351 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: center is posting on Facebook? Hey, ICE is over on 352 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: the west side of town. Avoid it. If they're in 353 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: our city community and ICE is looking for someone, please 354 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: listen closely. They're looking for a gang member, they're looking 355 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: for a rapist. They're looking for somebody who has broken 356 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: the law, even beyond breaking into our country. These are 357 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: bad people that they're looking for. Why would a nine 358 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: to one one call center employee put out where ICE 359 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: is going trying to get the bad people? You know why? 360 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: Because they support criminals more than they support anybody else. 361 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: Is these are this is a party right now who 362 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't even recognize, who puts criminals before law abiding 363 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: American citizens. That's why you have victims that have been 364 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: murdered out here that they don't talk about, they don't 365 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: march about, they don't protest about. Meaning you have somebody 366 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: in our country illegally that murders somebody. You don't hear 367 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: about that from those who protest. What you hear about 368 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: is a pedophile that the ICE agent is pulling out 369 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: of a house as you have protesters on the outside 370 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: saying Ice, Ice, Ice and blowing a whistle, Dan Carroll, 371 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense. 372 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, what else doesn't make sense is that you've got 373 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, talking about how the 374 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: Trump administration in Washington, DC needs to cut a check 375 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: to Minnesota to pay for what they broke, when it 376 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: was the governor and the mayor of Minneapolis who were 377 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: encouraging these people to be out on the streets and 378 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: engage in the activity that they engaged in. How is 379 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: that the responsibility of Donald Trump or the Trump administration 380 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: to now send a check to make Minneapolis hole. 381 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. But when 382 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: you see Cincinnati giving out eight point one million dollars 383 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: to protesters, right, that'll get your blood boiling, right, Or 384 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 3: giving one point something million of dollars to someone who 385 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: had a gun. When a nine to one one caller 386 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: called and said, hey, police respond, Hey, how they entered 387 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: the house? My thought was, it's a nine to one 388 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: one caller called in said there's something urgent. You don't 389 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: have to have a search warrant to enter that house. 390 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: This is all down. Here's what I tell to the community. 391 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: Why won't counsel put twelve in the box? I want 392 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: jury trials here, I want to. I want to I 393 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: want a jury of my peers to give a point 394 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: one million. You know why they don't do that because 395 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: they know there's not a jury in our region that 396 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: would have given those protesters a dime. They also know 397 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: that there's there's no jury in this dog gone region 398 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: that would give that person who had a gun one 399 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: point four or one point two million dollars. So all 400 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: of this is is a council and a mayor and 401 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: an administration that is attempting to reward criminals for bad behavior. 402 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: I want to reiterate when we talk about Black History 403 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: Months right now, the best thing that we can do. 404 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: Dedicate ourself to education, Dedicate ourselves to excellence, Dedicate ourselves 405 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: to our families, dedicate ourselves to our women, dedicate ourselves 406 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: to our fathers. Focus on our families, and handle our business. 407 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 3: Get up every day, go to work, participating your four 408 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 3: to one K plans. 409 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: Invest in your life, save your money, work two jobs 410 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: if you have to, in order for you to put 411 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: a down payment on a house, which is still the 412 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: greatest way to build wealth in America, and stabilize yourself. 413 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: These are the conversations that we need to be having 414 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: in the black community, not whether the Democrats are trying 415 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: to push on us. Dan Carrol that we some way 416 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: should be scared of the boogeyman because the Republicans are 417 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: saying you need a state ID or a driver's license 418 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: to vote in a legal election in a democracy. I 419 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: want to know at the end of the election, as 420 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: doctor King wanted to know that the election was fair 421 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: and transparent, and the only way you do that is 422 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: that you have legal people participating in the dog one election. 423 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: Why do the Democrats keep pushing this crap onto the 424 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: African American community active as if we do not have identification. 425 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 2: I want to tell everybody listening to this, African Americans 426 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with this. We have driver's license, 427 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: we have state IDs, We get up every day and 428 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: go to work. We are working our butts off like 429 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: any other Americans. Stop listening to these liberal Democrats in Washington, 430 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: DC that are trying to tell you otherwise. 431 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: Well, I would argue that filling out your average tax 432 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: return is a hell of a lot more complicated than 433 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: being able to secure a birth certificate or documentation that 434 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: you're an American citizen. But yet the government fully expects 435 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: you to comply with that, because after all, that keeps 436 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: the money flowing in. Chris Smitherman, we got to run 437 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: as always appreciate the time. If people want to follow 438 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: you on X, where do they do that? 439 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: Please call? Please follow me at vote Smitherman. That's really 440 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: important because what it does is you get those updates 441 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: as I come back on the next Monday. Dan Carrol 442 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me on. 443 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: Thank you Chris, we'll talk to you again soon, and 444 00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: as always,