WEBVTT - Chick Ludwig Sports Talk -- 12/6/25 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:43.440 Six nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwigs 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:44.800 seven hundred w l W. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.040 This is Sports Talk. 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.280 Sean McMahon is tonight's producer, And like Eric Carmon and 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.800 the Raspberries, We're going all the way to nine o'clock. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:59.040 It's Championship Saturday. In the world of college football, the 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.720 Bengals face the Bill's, an extremely important NFL game on Sunday. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.040 The MLS Cup got decided today with Inner Miami knocking 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:15.240 off Vancouver three to one. College hoops breaking out all 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:19.760 over the land, with Iowa State giving it to Purdue 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.920 at on the. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.479 Boilers home court. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:30.560 Lopsided loss for the Purdue boiler Makers. The twenty twenty 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:34.280 six World Cup drawl was Friday, with the US Men 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.959 landing in Group D with a first round match against 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:42.120 Paraguay in Los Angeles next June. And oh yeah, the 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.360 Cincinnati Reds are being mentioned in the running for Philadelphia 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:50.440 Phillies free agent designated hitter and Middletown native Kyle Schwarber. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.720 But I want to start tonight with what happened last 0:01:55.800 --> 0:02:01.360 night at Sintas Center in the Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.080 not the Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown, as mentioned on the 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.720 TNT broadcast and the final as we all know Xavier 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:15.440 seventy nine, U see seventy four and really, folks, it's 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.640 like I'm strapped in a chair in a dark room 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.920 with a flashlight shining in my eyes, and I've just 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:27.880 been injected with truth serum. And the truth is Xavier 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:34.480 owns Cincinnati, the Musketeers own the bear Cats, and Trey 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.480 Carrol deserves the key to the Queen City. You talk 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:46.720 about an overnight sensation. Carol just endeared himself to Xavier 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:52.400 fans everywhere, embedded himself in Musketeer lore for the rest 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.919 of his life. The musky six foot eight two and 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:02.080 thirty five pounds forward, also known as Aquaman because of 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.760 the length of his frame and his long, flowing locks 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:13.320 that cascade halfway down his back, was unstoppable thirty points, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:18.200 seven rebounds and assist, a block, a steal, a three pointer. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.360 He was everywhere fourteen of twenty three from the floor, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:28.240 making shots from the baseline in the paint with his 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:34.480 left hand and his right hand. You see, cannot shoot 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.520 the ball with any kind of consistency. The Bearcats are 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.280 known more for their defense, but the Bearcats couldn't stop 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:47.520 Trey Carroll or containing as u See suffered its eleven 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:52.920 straight loss at Sentas Center, and head coach Wes Miller 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.440 lost to his third Xavior. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:56.880 Coach. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:04.200 Savior fans are with delight. They're laughing at their crosstown rival. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:10.800 UC fans, meanwhile, are angry and have every right to be. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.200 What a scene last night. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:20.440 This is the place to fence right here, seven hundred WLW. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.520 I want to hear from Xavier fans. I want to 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:27.080 hear from UC fans because I've got my coffee, I've 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.559 got my computer. All I need is you At five one, three, seven, 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:35.240 four nine, seven thousand and one, eight hundred the Big One. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:40.720 The place was going crazy, and I loved Xavier coach 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:46.479 Richard Patino afterward the interview with TNT, he called the 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:52.560 Sintas Center crowd amazing. This is why I wanted to 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:57.159 come to Xavier, Patino said, because it's one of the 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.920 best fan bases and one of the best home courts 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:08.479 in all of college basketball. That's Xavier. Whatever happened to UC, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:17.640 I knew Xavier would win this game. The Musketeers are 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:23.880 more poised, more aggressive, and the more complete team. From 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:28.200 our very own Lance McAllister, host of Sports Talk on 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:34.359 seven hundred WLW Richard Patino has done more in three 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:40.200 weeks to tweak, reinvent, and improve Xavier than Wes Miller 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.000 has done with the Bearcats in four plus years and 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:49.279 one hundred and fifty games. And even Bearcat legend Nicky 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:54.200 Van Exel chimes in to say I am disappointed would 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:59.240 be an understatement. You see, x is a big rivalry 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.640 game and it should be treated as such. One team 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:10.560 played like it and the other didn't. Held disappointing for 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:17.800 UC fans and the alumni. Unbelievable five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.080 eight hundred, the big one at halftime. I mean, I'm 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.760 watching the first half, and even the guys in the 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:31.400 TNT studio Chris Weber and Jalen Rose said, you see, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:37.719 take it inside, use your height instead of passing the 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.880 ball around the perimeter for twenty five seconds and then 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:47.520 hurling up a three. You see did come back from 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:52.640 thirteen down to make a close at the end, but 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.520 you have to be able to close, and that's what 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.040 the Xavier Musketeers did. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.640 Behind Trey Carroll. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.640 The Aqua man, And how cool was his interview after 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.040 the game. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.720 He points across the court. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.880 To his family, to his wife and said, yeah, we're 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.119 gonna go get some dinner. He said, I'm gonna drink 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.640 some minute made pink lemonade and maybe have a slice 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:24.640 of pizza. Talk about enduring yourself to a fan base. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.000 That's what Trey Carroll did last night. We're not messing around. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.120 I'm riding this pony till it drops. Let's go out 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.640 to the phones. Bryce's in Cincinnati. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.560 I chicken, I just wanted to talk about the Big 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.560 twelve championship. I mean at the trophy ceremony, Jully McGuire said, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.120 don't let the Red Raiders get hot. And they're entering 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.240 the college with my playoff with the fullhead of steam. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.480 As they have won every single game this season by 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:51.520 twenty points or more. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.400 I would not want to play the Texas Tech Red 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:56.320 Raiders right now. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:58.320 Unbelievable. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.760 The speed on both sides of the ball, the aggressiveness 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.200 on defense, just incredible. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:04.920 Man. 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.600 They force four turnovers by BYU in the second half. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.360 BYU didn't have a prayer and how about giving up 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.160 a chip shot field goal to go up by two? 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:23.480 Scores when it's thirteen to seven. Okay, the Red Raiders 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:31.680 gave that up and they wind up throwing an incomplete pass, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.880 so they're back on defense. But they get an interception 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.720 and score a touchdown on the next two plays to 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:41.720 blow this thing wide open. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.200 Unbelievable. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.400 You're right, Bryce, the Texas Tech Red Raiders look fantastic. 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.120 Yes, I just love the tenacity that Joey McGuire coaches with. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:54.880 He just brings so much fire out of this Red 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:55.440 Raiders team. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.040 They just want the ball. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.880 They just want to force a fumble or get an 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.560 interception every single no matter what, no matter what situation 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.200 or whatever. And the defensive performance today by Texas Tech 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.720 shows exactly why this recruiting staff for Texas Tech focused 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.840 so much on that front. Seven two forced bubbles and 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.800 that linebacker Brian Roberts also got two interceptions to one 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.559 player of the game. So just absolutely amazing play by 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.480 Texas Tech today against BYU. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:19.720 Get. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.880 It's hard to beat a team twice in a row 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.080 in a season because that losing team has a plan, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.160 They understand the mistakes they made and they want to 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.120 go out and get their revenge. So BYU was playing 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.959 with hate, but Texas Tech stood their ground and won 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.120 in convincing fashion. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.559 The final was thirty four to seven, twenty one unanswered 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.560 points to the second half. A very impressive performance by 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.920 Texas Tech and they deserve to be one of the 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.280 get one of the buys, one of the four buys 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.920 in the twelve team college football playoff. Bryce, I appreciate 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.600 the call man, Thank you, thank you. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.160 You have a great rescue for your weekend chicks. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.840 All right, the rest of them, all right, Bryce, appreciate you. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.319 Nick is on the east side, Nick. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.640 Can cow are you doing tonight? 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:05.880 Oh? 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.360 We're hanging in there. My head is swimming. Just spent 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.280 all day with the remote in my hands. You're watching 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:18.080 college football, high school football, college basketball. I'm going crazy here, Nick. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.480 But last night, I mean I came on glued watching 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.680 that game the Crosstown shut. 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.199 Yeah. I attended the game. My wife's a barricade. I've 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.480 got a daughter who's a barricad, so I was kind 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.760 of rooting for them. I don't really care much for 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.360 each team. I think they're both bad basketball teams. It's 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.160 some of the worst free throughly shooting I've ever witnessed. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:40.719 In my life. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:46.439 Was the difference. Yeah, yeah, the game has lost. It's 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.760 lost there though, checking that the Xavier fans that they're 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:50.760 tough to watch. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:52.480 I don't know. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.120 The Cintas centered is tired. The game has lost it. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.160 I'm going home to watch some college football. I can't 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.240 watch basketball until March. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.760 Yeah, I don't blame you, Nick, uh. I want to 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.800 fall in love with college basketball again. I'm not there yet. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.240 I don't know any of these players. I'm getting to 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:16.120 know Trey Carroll, that's for sure. Uh oh yeah, totally 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.959 new rosters. It's just crazy. How how do we endear 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:24.480 ourselves to certain players when they come in for one year. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.640 It's very tough. I used to know, you know, both 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.160 rosters when the game back when the game was great, 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.559 even just you know, four or five years ago. But 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.199 since Twast has come in, it's kind of lost a fluster, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.960 you see, probably needs a make over. But it's all 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.560 about college football. It's all about Joe Burrow. Tomorrow, we're 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.559 gonna crawl back. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:45.040 Into this thing. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.880 Yeah oh yeah, I like that. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.120 I like that. I expect a Bengals victory. Yes, sir, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:55.520 all right, Nick, appreciate you all right, Sick, Thanks so much, Mike, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.240 is in Campbell County wants to talk cross town shootout. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.000 Mike, how are you? And I my man fan call 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:03.920 your show? 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:08.240 Hey, thanks so much for calling. Welcome to seven hundred WLW. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.440 So I'm gonna give you heads up. I'm a I'm 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.960 a Louisville fan, but yeah, I rude for Xavier, I 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.480 rude for UC, and I agree with what you just 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:25.840 said a couple of minutes ago about Richard Patino has 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:31.000 changed that team around and Wes Miller is not. And 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.680 that's really I hate to see that for UC. To 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.280 be honest with you, Oh. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:37.680 Yeah, I grew up a UC fan. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.240 I love both universities, but man, I was I was 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.040 born in nineteen fifty four and UC wins back to 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:49.080 back national championships in nineteen sixty one, in nineteen sixty 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.280 two after Oscar Robertson left. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:58.600 Yeah, yeah, the only other comment I just started listening, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.960 And I believe you're a big UK fan If I'm. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.960 Not, not me, not me, But gosh, what is going 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.760 on with University of Kentucky. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.160 This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:17.440 Oh, man, Mark Pope came in with guns blazing, and man, 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.000 he might go out with a whimper. This is brutal. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.560 They're getting blown out. Yeah, they're getting blown out. But 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:28.960 about Louisville Man, the Louisville UC rivalry, Oh my gosh, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.160 it was awesome to see it come back for one game. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:34.280 That's what I grew up with. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:38.840 The Missouri Valley Conference in Louisville wins today eighty seven 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:43.760 to seventy eight at home over the Indiana Hoosiers. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:48.760 Yeah, they do have a good team. But I'm just 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.720 making a point. I'm a UC fan and a Xavier fan. Yeah, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.760 so I'm not other than that. I'd just like to 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:57.680 see him both win. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.600 Amen. I want to see him good to get back 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.120 to the NCAA tournament. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.400 You're exactly right, But. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.480 Right now Xavier is leading. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.600 I mean, Richard Patinos done a whale of a job, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.959 and like he said last night after the game, we're 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.439 getting a lot better every game. He loves the team's attitude, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.040 he loves the way they practice, and he says we're 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.880 growing and getting better. And of course they couldn't have 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.280 won last night without the aquaman, Trey Carroll. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.680 Yeah exactly, all right, thank you for taking my call. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.080 All right, thank you so much. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.280 And before we go to break, Let's go up to 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:41.640 the gym city and welcome in. Richard, Richard, what's happening. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:43.080 That's happening. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.600 You know what's happening. Everything another hour away till we 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.920 become the net. I'm thinking we're going to become national 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.160 championship with Ohio State. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.520 Buddy, Well, there's a lot. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.520 There's a lot on the line tonight when Ohio State 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:03.960 faces the Indiana Hoosiers number one versus number two. You've 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:08.880 got the Big Ten championship on the line. You've got seeds, 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.440 the top four seeds who get buys in the twelve 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.600 team playoff, and then it's the Heisman Trophy race. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.120 Yes, with both quarterbacks in the mix, yep. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.680 And you know tomorrow, I'm like you, he owns, he 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:30.320 owns Buffalo. I think the offense with Joe Burrow, maybe 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.320 the chase they're gonna They're not gonna stop them tomorrow. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.760 I do predict the Bengals to win that game by 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.360 three or four points. I do, I really do. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.960 I'll take it by one point, Dick and Hey appreciate it. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:48.960 The Bengals do get good news that mister Higgins t 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:55.600 has cleared per push pro Gosh concussion protocol and we'll 0:15:55.680 --> 0:16:02.720 play tomorrow. That is great news. Wow, phone lines were 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:09.040 wide open. We'll talk some Bengals coming up here? U 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:13.760 see Xavier? Where does U see go from here? Devastating 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:20.720 loss eleventh straight. I got a tweet today, Please extend 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.520 Wes Wooden. I mean talk about a backslap across the 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:31.840 face that that is nasty. You are listening to Sports 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:36.920 Talk with your host Chick Ludwig and tonight's producer Sean McMahon, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:42.320 fellow elder grad till nine o'clock on the Home of 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:49.280 the Reds and the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.800 six in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, seven 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.600 hundred WLW Sports. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.800 Talk until nine o'clock tonight. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.320 Wow, a great data be on the couch with the 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.200 remote college basketball, college football man. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:06.840 It's championship Saturday. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:12.400 The Alabama Crimson Tide trails the Georgia Bulldogs in the 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:18.359 SEC Championship game twenty one to nothing. And Texas Tech 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.240 wins the Big twelve all over BYU today thirty four 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.960 to seven. And we're eagerly awaiting the ACC Championship game 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.639 Virginia against Duke eight o'clock on ABC, and of course, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:38.040 the Ohio State Buckeyes against Indiana Buckeyes number one Hoosiers 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:42.520 number two for the Big Ten Championship, the fight for 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:49.520 the Heisman Trophy, and the seating in the twelve team 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:55.959 college football Playoff. Let's go out to the phones, Kevin 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.359 and Columbus, our good friend waiting a while. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.840 Yeah, I'm hey, Yeah, I'm a nervous wreck and I'm 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.040 trying to listen to you. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.440 But the game's coming on. You still be on the air. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.840 That must be tough on you keeping a half an 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.880 eye on that and still doing your show. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:14.119 It's crazy. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.240 Yeah, we've got some big screen, we got some big 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.640 screen TVs here, and I've got Georgia on one and yeah, well, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.399 oh it's it's awesome. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.280 I was impressed last week that the way that game 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.040 started out. You know how many Michigan games we've been 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.200 through were undefeated and then everything goes wrong, and it 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.360 started out that way. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.480 I oh, no, no, no. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:36.960 Hey, they got it together. 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:38.520 Hey they're gonna win tonight. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:40.160 I believe they will. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.879 I know much about Indiana, but I'll be watching. I'm 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.800 trying to keep watching, listening to you till that, and 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:48.440 but it's tough. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:48.760 Hey. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.399 One other thing, I just want to say, Well, the 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.960 Kyle Schwarber thing, I think we need to get. You 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.840 need to get somebody like you and Frank COONa, maybe 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.400 Seg Dennison and jd Vance talked to him. It's got 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.520 to be his boyhood dream. He must have dreamed of 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.320 playing for the Reds as a kid. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.240 Right, no doubt, no doubt. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.560 And I know a whole bunch I know a whole 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.360 bunch of Kyle's friends in Middletown, and I know they're 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:13.160 working on him. 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:13.520 Yeah. 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.320 Hey, Hey, like with Ken Griffy Junior who wanted to play. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.399 Here, yep, hey, I was. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.560 I was there that night in the Crosley room when 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:27.760 Ken Griffy Junior was introduced and unforgettable, and it will 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.320 be something similar if and when that happens with Kyle Schwarber. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.440 Yeah, somehow make it happen. Hey, That's all I got. Hey, 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.960 enjoy your games and I hope they win so much. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.720 All right, I'm right there with you, Keviny Columbus, appreciate you. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.160 All right, Let's go up to the great state of Michigan. 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.280 Our good friend Craig Hey, Greg what's going on? 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.320 Hey, it's been a while, mister positive. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.760 I'm trying, brother, I gotta ask you, Oh my god, 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:55.720 I gotta try. 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.240 I gotta ask you. How do you think the NFC 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.280 nerd is going to shape out? Oh? 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:00.600 Man? 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.920 The Bengals launched the career of one Caleb Williams. Oh 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.960 my gosh. Well, the Bears and the Packers only three losses. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.320 The Lions are eight and five two games back, a 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:17.680 very positive sign that they destroyed the Dallas Cowboys. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:19.240 I don't know if they can win it. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.920 I want them to get into the playoffs and then 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.640 anything can happen with the Lions getting back to what 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:31.080 they do the best man run the football man. That's 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:35.200 an awesome ground game. And then Jared Goff's got a 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:40.960 step forward, and yeah, stop this ridiculousness and go out 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:42.320 and punish people. 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.840 There you go, there you go. Hey, if I don't 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.720 speak kid before Christmas, have a beautiful Christmas, my friend. 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:50.400 Thank you so much. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.359 We'll be back on these airwaves filling in for the 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:58.240 immortal Lance McAllister on Tuesday Night. Can't wait, man, appreciate it, 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:06.920 Doug Greg As always, We've got Pat in Blue Ash. 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.360 Hey, Pat, how are you chick fantastic? What's going on? 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.080 Why I was calling about the shootout? 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:14.359 I was not at the game. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.280 I gave my tickets to my daughter and son in law. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.040 But I will tell you I saw Xavier because I'm 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:22.119 a season ticket holder. 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.320 A month ago. They looked like. 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:28.520 The worst college basketball team I had ever seen. They 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:33.920 couldn't play defense, they couldn't score. And I watched UC 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.399 B Dayton, and while I didn't think, uh, that was 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:43.960 particularly UC's best game, Dayton's a good team, and I thought, well, 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:46.560 maybe they're on their way. But I'll tell you what 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.600 you know. I call him less Miller because he seems 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.960 to get less out of his team than he should. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.560 He is just like Ciderfield, and I've got degrees from 0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:58.360 both schools. 0:21:58.920 --> 0:21:59.920 They are nice guys. 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:01.359 They recruit well. 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.120 I don't think they hold. 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.760 Their teams the high enough standards. Their teams don't get 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.399 better as the year progresses, and they don't make in 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.760 game decisions that change the outcome of the game. 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:16.520 Man. 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:23.880 Even the TNT announcers in studio, they were be fuddled 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.280 by UC's half court offense in the first half. 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:29.800 There what is going on? 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:33.760 Passing the ball around the perimeter and then launching threes. 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.359 I was always taught you go inside and then out, 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.120 not the opposite way. 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:42.960 Oh, that's exactly right. 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:44.159 I mean Tray Carroll. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:46.600 I thought he played a phenomenal game. 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.240 But let's face it, he's not that athletic. 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.119 He can badly jump over a credit card and you see, 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.639 is much bigger, much more athletic. 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:00.440 And did they double team him more than once? It 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:01.400 was embarrassing. 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:06.800 It was it was very embarrassing. And oh. 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.000 One of the quotes after the game from West Miller, 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:13.040 oh we haven't worked on the double team enough in 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.480 the post and I'm there, Oh, oh god. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.520 That's that's the same. That's the same excuse he gave 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.280 when they when they lost to Eastern Michigan. 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.000 He said, well, we had. 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:28.400 Never played in practice with that combination of players, so we. 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.119 Didn't know what to do. And when Day. 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:36.359 Day Thomas and Gisel James you were on the team together. Uh, 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.800 and they never played together? He said, well, we never 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.840 practiced having them play together. I mean, you know, at 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.520 some point you have to take a flyer. You have 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.000 to trust your guys and know that they're going to 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.760 figure it out, because they have to figure it out. 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:57.040 It was Uh, it wasn't that close to five point game. 0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:02.439 It just wasn't now much more poised coming down the 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.040 stretch and closing the deal. 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.520 And you see just their offenses a panic. 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:11.480 It just and I see five guys instead of a team. 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.359 I see you sees five guys on the floor attempting 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:21.880 to attempting to make a case for their pro careers 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.960 like auditions. Uh, I just see five individuals instead of 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:27.800 a team. 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.280 Yeah, you know, you're right, you know, you know, chick. 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.480 When I used to coach basketball, and I coached for 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:37.000 twenty seven seasons, just just the youth basketball, I used 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.840 to tell them, do you want to if you were 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:40.679 in a fight, do you want to slap somebody? Or 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.400 do you want to punch somebody? Yeah, because if you're slapping, 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:47.920 it's five fingers working independently. If it's a punch, it's 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.000 all of you working together. And that's exactly what you see. 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.720 Does they slap people instead of punching them? 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.960 Amen to that? And uh, Mark or Pat really appreciate it. 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.520 Man, thank you, thank you. 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.240 All right, We've got Mark and Hamilton. 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:10.879 Mark, Hi, Hi, Jake, Yes, sir, Yeah, the game tonight, 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:15.960 the big ten Championship game. I you know, of course 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.240 I'm rooting for a Hall of State and I'm want 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:23.400 Ohio State to win. And uh, but it's number one 0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.399 against number two. If either team loses, I don't think either. 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:31.679 One of them is going to get out of that 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:37.000 top four bye week situation in which they are going 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:38.680 for the national championship. 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:39.240 You know. 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:41.159 Yeah, I mean the way. 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.960 When I saw the bracket and I've got and they 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.640 had Ohio State with the bye and then possibly playing 0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.399 in the Rose Bowl, I'm there, oh man, I just 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:54.080 I'm in a dream state. 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.480 I'm in love if that could happen. 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:03.080 But yeah, I'm I want Ohio State to win, but uh, 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.160 you know, the bigger goal is the national champions. 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.560 Yes, so that's all I got, chick. 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:12.080 All right, and I appreciate it, Mark, And uh, I 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.520 was just pleased at my alma mater, the Ohio State 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:16.880 University beat Michigan. 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:17.440 Yes. 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.600 Oh, but tonight man Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback of IU 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:27.040 against Julian saying two quality quarterbacks. 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:27.720 Awesome. 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.600 A how about Jack wants to talk across town shootout? 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:35.920 Yeah, he said, Jack? 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:37.920 All right, yeah, Jack, what's going on? 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.440 Yeah? When you touched on a big a very important 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.440 part of my point that I want to make when 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.040 you said, uh, you know playing the game basketball is 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:53.040 inside out. Yes, that's that's part of basic fundamental basketball. 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.960 Yes, did we see that last night? Did we see 0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.280 that from U see last night? 0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.160 We haven't seen it in three years. 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:00.680 Uh. 0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:02.920 And I don't have anything against mister Miller. I'm sure 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.239 he's a good guy and everything. But the thing that 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.920 really stands out with what happens with the UC Bearcap 0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.920 basketball team, they are not working on fundamentals. I mean, 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.240 look at the foul shooting. Foul shooting is part of 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.240 your fundamentals. Brutal, They don't they don't box out, Yeah. 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.680 Eleven of twenty two, Yeah, eleven of twenty two. 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.640 It's just yeah, that's just part of fundamentals. You can't 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.080 make a fact that's you stayed after practice until you 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:31.440 can make seven or eight out of ten. 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:32.240 You know. 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.800 But uh, that's what they're lacking. And it's a shame 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.400 because they they're good athletes, and I know they want 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.080 to win. You know, I'm anna, I'm a bear catalum, 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.480 and uh, you know I'm used to like you said, 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.600 you know, you know, good old fashioned Cincinnati Bears cap 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.480 basketball and that's not what we're getting. But uh, that's 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.919 you made part of my point. It's just basic fundamentals. 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.840 But they're they're not getting that, they're not being taught, 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.199 that they're not being they're not being practiced with their fundamentals. 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.400 Totally agree, Jack, and Uh, hey appreciate the call. 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.040 Thank you. 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.520 All right, And before we go to the top of 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.560 the hour break, I want to bring in our producer 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.720 Sean McMahon, fellow elder grad with the Chickster Chicks, and 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:15.520 he a uc alam and your take on last night. 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:17.960 Sean, I know you're disappointed. 0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:25.960 Yeah, disappointed, unfortunately, not surprised. Yeah, because I mean with Xavier, 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.600 they always show up. They always I got to give 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.440 credit where credit is due to that program. It never 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.640 matters who the head coach is. It doesn't matter who's 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.320 on the floor for Xavier, it doesn't matter who's on 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.400 the floor for U. See, Xavier always shows up in 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:39.800 that game, and I got to give him a lot 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:44.280 of credit. For months, chick I've kind of just assumed 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.240 that they were probably going to drop this one for 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.320 the simple fact that it was at the Centas Center. 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.600 Yeah, it's been that way since two thousand and one. 0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.720 It's it's a it is a bitter piece of information 0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.720 to swallow if you're a UC fan that for twenty 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:02.160 four years, Xavier has one, or I guess it would 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.400 be twenty two years now, because twenty four years ago 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:07.080 is the last time you see one. Yeah, eleven straight, 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.840 eleven straight, and that's that's tough to swallow. 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.400 And we talked off the air sean only one player 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.720 on both teams has played in this rivalry. 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.000 Yep, that's Dade Thomas. 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:22.480 For those wondering, it's an incredible statistic. If you would 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.400 have told me that ten years ago, I really don't 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.440 know what I would have made with that information, because 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.000 that just didn't seem it wasn't feasible at the time. 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.040 Now it is because I think you brought up this 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:37.280 point earlier, Chick. The way that teams are constructed nowadays, 0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.640 it feels like it's a lot it's just a bunch 0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:39.400 of mercenaries. 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.520 Yeah, and I don't like that. 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.360 I'm used to with football teams, basketball teams. I'm used 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:51.160 to kind of watching these guys grow and develop into 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.600 an identity. And we saw that with Luke fickle with 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.600 the football team, and we haven't seen that with UC 0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.600 basketball in a while. You know, the last team that 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.240 I can remember that was like that, I guess was 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.400 the twenty nineteen squad. 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.600 That was when Jared Cumberland was still on the team. 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.920 After that and you know, Wes Miller and John and 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.680 John Brannan and all that stuff, the program has been 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.640 kind of on life support. But the game last night, specifically, though, 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.440 getting back to that, it was it was tough because. 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:21.959 I kind of knew how it was gonna go. 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.120 It's funny how it seems like every time it's at 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:28.120 the Sintas Center, UC plays the same game. They heave 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.000 up a bunch of threes they shouldn't be taken. They 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.520 shouldn't be taking. They miss a lot of them. Their 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:36.200 free throw shooting is atrocious historically, it just is. 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.080 And there's one guy that murders them, and. 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.160 There's one guy that kills him, and that was Trey Carroll, 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:41.640 and he was one of the guys I was at. 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.400 I was out at the bar last night drinking with 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.960 some friends and I was telling him, Hey, there's like 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.160 four guys for Xavier. 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:47.920 You've got a limit. 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:54.040 That's bor Vichenen, Malisseovich Anderson the third and Trey Carroll. 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:55.360 Those are the four. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.920 Guys you gotta maybe not shut down because shutting down 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.640 four dudes is a lot harder to harder then did it? 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:00.920 You know? 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:02.720 Then you'd like to admit. 0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.480 But they let one of those guys go off and 0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.480 he was a huge difference in the game. 0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.400 And the two guys I can't pronounce their last names, 0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:12.400 they hit big threes. 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:14.600 Yeah, they hit some big shots. 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.960 Yeah, yeah, Melisavichen Borovichnen I think or their o their names. Yeah, yeah, 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.120 that's that's the thing about Xavier. I will say this, 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.840 you look at the box score. I think the biggest 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.440 thing that I was saying, you see needed to do 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.880 defensively to shut down Xavier was shut down Xavier's three 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.440 point shooting. If you look at the box score, Xavier 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.800 was six six of twenty eight from the three point line. 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.200 Yeah, so you. 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:38.960 See did a pretty good job of stopping the three 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.680 point shot or at least making Xavier miss them. So 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.360 they got lucky there. But you see themselves wasn't much better. 0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.640 They were eleven of thirty three from the three point line. 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.480 But yeah, man, it's it's the free throw shooting that 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.520 gets them every single time. And it's one of those 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.280 things fundamentally that I don't understand how you're not practicing 0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.440 that day in day out. It's it's called the charity 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.720 stripe for reason. You got to make those shots. Those 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.160 are free points. You got to take them when you 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.120 can get them, especially in a rivalry like that, and 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.760 in a series that's been dominated by Xavier since the 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.520 turn of the century and has been dominated since they 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:13.600 opened Zinta Center. 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.040 Yes, uh UC shoots thirty eight percent from the floor, 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.280 twenty six of sixty nine, thirty three percent from three, 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.480 and fifty percent at the line. Yeah, Xavier forty seven 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:26.840 percent from the floor, and yeah, they were only twenty 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:31.880 one percent six of twenty eight and only fifty seven 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.720 percent from the foul line, so they were only thirteen 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:35.560 of twenty three. 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.720 But that all goes away when you win. Yeah, yeah, 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.920 and with a thirty point performance by Trey Carroll. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.440 Right, And I got to get credit to Xavier. You know, 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.680 they're in a new tenure with with Rick Patina or 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.880 I'm sorry now Rick Patino, Richard Patino, And they came 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.320 out and they played hard and they played well. Yeah, 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.760 you can't not give that team credit for how they've 0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.720 how they played last night. Yeah, they've won four in 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.440 a row, five out. They lost to Santa Clara and 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.800 Iowa both by nineteen. We lose by one to Georgia, 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.480 and then they've won four in a row. So he's right, 0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.440 they're getting better every game. 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.360 Yep. And what can you say other than give him credit? Now, 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:16.880 I'll make this real quick, but. 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.360 I think you were bringing up Wes Miller and Aolance 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.320 talks about Wes Miller all the time. He's losing faith 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.120 even quicker with the fan base now, and he's got 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:29.920 to get a lot done. He has to make the 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.040 tournament this year. You can't come to this program year 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.480 five and not make the tournament. And he's lost to 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.560 three different head coaches at Xavier. It's just there's he 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.360 doesn't have a lot going for him right now. So 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:39.920 he's got to make up ground quickly. 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.239 Hey, when we come back after the top of the 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:46.760 hour news, we're going to welcome in. Jake Ballard retired 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.120 tight end in the NFL. Played at Springboro High School, 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.479 played at the Ohio State University. Caught a couple of 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.720 touchdown passes and helped the New York Football Giants beat 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.520 New England in Super Bowl forty six. He lives in Columbus. 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.800 Now we'll get his take on the Indiana Ohio state 0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.120 matchup and talk. 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.760 A little bit about his career when we return. 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.799 It's the home of the best Bengals coverage and the 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:47.360 home of the Reds. News Radio seven hundred wlw B 0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.480 seven eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, 0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.040 seven hundred w l W this is sports talk, And 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.160 like Eric Carmon and the Raspberries, we're going all the 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.080 way to nine o'clock and that's when Donnade takes over 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:06.840 these airwaves. 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:11.560 And I always enjoy catching up with famous. 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:18.040 Athletes, local athletes, and we've got one right now. Let's 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.560 go out to Columbus, where I went to school with 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:26.080 fifty thousand of my closest friends, and welcome in retired 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.960 tight end Jake Ballard. 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.200 Jake, how are you tonight? 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.799 I'm good. I'm doing good. Chick, how you doing? Man? 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:38.120 Oh fantastic Springboro High School, home of the Panthers, the 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:42.680 Ohio State University, home of the Buckeyes, and then a 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.600 career in the National Football League that includes a Super 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:51.160 Bowl ring. First things first, Jake, how sweet was it 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.400 to finally beat the Michigan Wolverines. 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.120 Well, it was pretty awesome watching them. 0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.839 The Bucks take care of business, completely dominate the game 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.520 from beginning to end. And you know, as a guy 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.960 who never lost to Michigan, these last four years have 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.200 been tough, even living in Central Ohio. The Michigan fans 0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.839 that came out of the closets and he couldn't really 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:13.440 say anything. 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.080 But now this year, at the tides of turns. 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.440 Yes, sir, it's only a charm. 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:24.480 But the gold Pants, Oh what I would give to 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:28.600 get a gold Pants charm. 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.400 Yeah, I mean, they're definitely pretty special. My you know, 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.160 tradition is that the players, once you get them, usually 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:39.400 moms hold on of those pretty tight. So my mom, actually, 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.319 you know, I haven't played my freshman year. I hog 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.080 to State with two thousand and six, and my mom. 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.279 Just gave both of all four of mine to. 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.080 My wife about a year or two ago, so she 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:50.400 was hold on to him for a while. 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:55.520 Oh man, awesome, that's fantastic, Josh never lost to Michigan. Incredible. 0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:01.120 How about tonight, Jake? Really, both teams number one and 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.680 number two. It doesn't happen often, man, in a venue 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.320 like Lucas Oil Stadium. 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:07.880 Man, it doesn't get any bigger than this. 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.480 But so much is on the line tonight with Ohio 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.319 State and Indiana number one versus number two, the Big 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.600 Ten Championship, the you know, the seedings in the twelve 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.480 team college football playoff, and then the Heisman Trophy race 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:29.880 with a Julian Sayan and Fernando Mendoza Man, two great quarterbacks. 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.320 Yeah, there's a lot on the line tonight, two great teams. 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.480 You know, arguably neither one is faced an opponent like 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.480 the other. I might be a little biased, but you know, 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.600 I think Indiana is a good team. I don't think 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.160 they faced a defense like ours, number one defense in 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.000 the country, not even letting guys get over average ten 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.640 points a game. So at the end of the day, 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.200 I guess I just don't know if Indiana can score 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.920 more points than our offense versus our defense. And like 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.560 you said, it's he's been. Whoever wins this game, it's 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.160 probably gonna Heisman two. And as far as you know 0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.440 the playoff seeding goes, it really just depends on who 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:04.960 you talk to. 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.760 If if the game is closed. 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.400 It sounds like both we'll still be in the running 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.360 and get a first round by but we'll wait and 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:12.839 see how. 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:14.640 The how the game turns out well. 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.000 And when I said this earlier on the show that 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.879 you know, when I look at the the twelve team 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.759 playoff and I see Ohio State with the possibly you know, 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.080 a number one seed there and that the possibly get 0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.840 to buy and then possibly play in the Rose Bowl. 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:30.320 I've been there twice. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:34.480 It's the most incredible venue in all of college football, 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.680 one of the most iconic venues in all of sports. 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.960 And that would be special to go back to Pasadena. 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.360 Oh absolutely. I mean my last game Ohio State was 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.719 the Rose Bowl. We actually beat Oregon Ducks. And most 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.800 recently Ohio State played in the Rose Ball last. 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.320 Year and beat Oregon. And it would be it'd. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.719 Be pretty special to see him go back there and 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:56.840 start this playoff run in. 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:57.560 The Rose Bowl. 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.839 God, can you relate to the fan how special that 0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:06.640 was to take the field at the Rose Bowl. You know, 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:11.920 the shadows of the San Gabriel Mountains with the sky 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.279 turning pink blue, purple green. I mean, just it is 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:17.760 a spectacular setting. 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.719 It really is very surreal, and like you said, the 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.920 sun setting on the San Gabriel Mountains. You know, you 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.840 got jets flying overhead for the pregame, and it's just 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.640 in that weather, it is always perfect. The grass is 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:34.959 like a golf course, and you just there's so much 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.920 history there. So to be able to be there and 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:39.840 be a part of that game, and a couple of 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.960 days before that, you know, we do the Rose bul 0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:46.440 Prade and all those things, and it just was super 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.319 special and I'm very blessed to be able to play 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:48.839 in that game. 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:54.360 And back at Ohio State, I've been told that coming 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.440 out of the tunnel at Ohio State, you are so 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.640 jack you feel like you could leap over ten foot 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:01.200 brick wall. 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.160 I mean waiting in the tunnel and then eventually when 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.960 they tell you to run out and you're running down 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.000 in front of one hundred and five six seven thousand people, 0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.600 You're not going to jump over the wall. You might 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.400 run through it, but it is it is extremely special. 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.200 One of the loudest environments I've ever played in. And 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:24.640 I've played in the Mall. You know, I played in 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.360 Seattle in the NFL. I've played in Washington Huskies in 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:32.240 Michigan and Penn State and Texas and anything. 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:32.600 You can think of. 0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:37.120 Ohio Stadium is a very tough place to play. 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.840 And running through a brick wall with snot bubbles, I'm sure. 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:43.719 Absolutely. 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:48.440 Yeah, Well, Jacob your pro career, you're getting signed by 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.520 the New York Football Giants. Is an undrafted college free 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:58.400 agent following the twenty ten draft. What was that experience like? 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.879 And you know, fighting through some injuries here that very 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.480 first year and then finally getting on the field in 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:10.040 twenty eleven making an impact and then eventually man getting 0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.040 a Super Bowl ring with a twenty one to seventeen 0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.680 victory over the New England Patriots at Lucas Oil Stadium 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.920 after the twenty eleven season. 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.239 Yeah, I mean it was a dogfight. 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.960 I was undrafted, so you're coming in there fighting for 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.840 a spot like a lot of guys in the NFL 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:29.080 training camp. 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.600 And I was. 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.160 Fortunate enough to obviously play at Ohio State, where I 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.279 played against the NFL guys all the time, So I 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:41.680 guess the learning curve for me wasn't that great. But 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.880 I went there and did enough to you know, impress 0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.440 the coaches, and I was up and down off the 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.520 practice squad and NAKI roster. My rookie year I started 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.719 tighting was Kevin Boss, who did really well in my 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:57.799 second year. It was the NFL lockout and didn't even 0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.719 get to off season with the team. And I showed 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.000 up a camp and Kevin Boss is about to come back, 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:03.799 and I'll never forget this. 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:05.040 Our Titan coach walked in. 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.000 He said, well, Kevin was going to sign with us, 0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.040 but the Oakland Raiders just doubled their offer and he's 0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:14.040 signed with them. And he said, our starting Titans in 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.160 this room. We're not getting anyone else. And as soon 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.160 as I heard him say that, I never looked back. 0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.040 I said, I'm going to earn the starting spot and 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:21.640 I took and run with it. 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.359 Beautiful And gosh, you've got to remember the November sixth, 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:32.840 twenty eleven game against the Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, Massachusetts. Well, yeah, 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:36.120 a one yard touchdown catch, a twenty eight yard catch 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.920 on third and ten in the final minute, and that 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:40.560 was huge. 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:43.640 Yeah, that was a special game. 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.680 We actually ended up playing with the Patriots after the Giants, 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.240 but yeah, Tom always liked to bring up that game, 0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.160 but we ended there about twenty I think they were 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.800 going for a twenty six or seven game home winning 0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.640 streak and we ended that and that really kind of 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:01.880 lit us on fire for that Super Bowl run that 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.759 year and the next year when I was on the Patriots. 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.799 Tom Brady just incredible guy, but obviously incredible leader and competitor. 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.280 This guy's played in thousands, you know, thousands of football games, 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.000 and he still remembers little little things like that. I 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.719 would just be walking by the hallway and he'd be like, Jake, 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.759 if you think I forgot you catching that ball in 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.320 third and long, are catching the winning touchdown, You're forgetting 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:25.120 You're mistaken. 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.719 Oh, or you bring up something about us beating beating. 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.000 Him in the Super Bowl, that is incredible. 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.600 And that game in Foxborough twenty one to seventeen in 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.600 favor of the Giants and handing the Patriots the second 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.399 straight loss for the first time since two thousand and nine, 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.600 twenty one consecutive victories at home and man, you stopped him. 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.759 And then the Super Bowl final score twenty one to 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.400 seventeen in favor of the Giants. 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:58.200 Yep, pretty pretty crazy how it all worked out. I mean, 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.120 the Patriots are town the team, but we got high 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.600 at the right moment and and took care of business. 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.040 Yes, And do you still have your Super Bowl ring? 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.600 Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely. 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.399 It kills me when I hear that guys sell them 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:16.359 or give them away or lose them. Man, that's got 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.319 to be in an awfully safe place for you. 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.919 A safe place, indeed pun intended. I don't. 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.240 I don't wear my sit in the safe of the house, 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.040 and I'll bring it out on special occasions if I 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.359 get dressed up or have any events that people want 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.880 to see them. But I have the rest of my 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.480 game ball the memorabilia kind of out in my basement 0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.680 hung up, so it's nice to see those every once 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:39.239 in a while, too. 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:43.719 Jutiful, We're talking with Jake Ballard, retired NFL tight end 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.520 from Springboro High School the Ohio State University to New 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.799 York Football Giants. In a bittersweet day in that in 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:54.080 that Super Bowl, Jake, because uh, you win the game, 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.719 but you got injured in that game and that, uh, man, 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.400 that really hit an impact on your on your future. 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:03.759 Yeah, it definitely did. 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.640 I you know, I ended up blowing out my knee 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.880 with seven minutes to go in the game, a c 0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:13.560 L meniscus and a microfracture, and it definitely turned the 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.279 tides of my life. But I always like to say, 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.200 you know, I would have met my wife or had 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:19.920 my son if I would have. 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:21.000 Never got hurt in that game. 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.560 But anyway, yeah, and it hurt. 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:24.120 My knee. 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.000 Came back for a couple of years, but never really 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:30.480 was the same and ended up retiring with the Cardinals early. 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.359 And it could have it could have covered the worst time. 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:39.000 It was actually my contract year that year, so we 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.000 were going to sign an extension until I got hurt. 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.440 And you know, it is what it is. 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:45.880 Yeah, Now. 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:51.200 The Giants wound up placing you on injured reserve and 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.759 then that off season, Wow, the New York or the 0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.640 New England Patriots claim you off waivers. And isn't it 0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.279 kind of a gentleman's agreement, you know, an injured guy, 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:03.359 you know, and other team's not gonna pick him up. 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.880 But did Patriots and Bill Belichick claim you off waivers 0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.000 and then you spent the entire season what on the 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.960 pup list or I R. 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.879 Yeah, on I are on IR with the Patriots. Yeah, 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:16.640 it was interesting. 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:21.279 Interesting that the general manager tells me that you know, 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:23.520 we're gonna put you on IR, and I was already 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.440 prepped by my agent of the situation what would happen? 0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:30.000 And I told him, point, Blake, you know I want 0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.840 to be here the Giants. I don't want to do this. 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.840 What's what's the chance that some team just takes a 0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.320 flyer and steals me in the waiver wire and stores 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.759 me away for next year? And I was told by 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:44.600 our our GM that you know, that doesn't happen. Teams 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.799 don't do that. Blah blah blah. Well, later that day 0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.120 I get a call from Kaflin tell me how much 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.320 he he cares about me and loves me, and and 0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.680 and how I was a big part of the success. 0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.319 And basically said, you know, Jake, you're a smart kid. 0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.160 You know I don't get all the decisions. If I did, 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.600 this would not even be I would not even be 0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:06.799 gambling this. And sure enough, the last day, last five 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.480 minutes of the waiver while whire Belichick and the Patriots 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.759 claimed me man no, and I had and I had 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.160 no decision or say the matter. The next morning, I 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.360 was on a plane to New England at six. 0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:24.200 Am, Yeah twenty twelve, the regular season on the pup 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:29.360 list or IR, and then August thirtieth of twenty thirteen, 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:31.520 You're informed of your. 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.000 Release by the Patriots. 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.160 And then how did it come that you landed in 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.520 Arizona with Carson Palmer? 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:41.520 Yep, Carson a great guy. 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:45.239 But yeah, so I was with New England all off 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.840 all twelve and I are just kind of rehabbing, you know, 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.560 since my injury wasn't a standard just ACL, it took 0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:54.240 a little bit longer. Yeah, And I went through training camp, 0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:57.400 played played in all the preseason games and it was 0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:58.080 no secret. 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.799 You know, I knew my knee was not I wasn't. 0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:04.360 Ready, you know, I wasn't up to snuff and ready 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.919 to play, and the team knew that. And I'll never 0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.640 forget Belichick call. But like a coach wants to see 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:13.320 us the last day of cuts, you know what's happening 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.200 when you hear that and you go up there and 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:20.480 Nick Catherio was, uh, he wasn't old Billichick. Belichick's the 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.400 GM and coach, but Nick Casserio has the title. And 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.840 Nick starts talking to me and give me some standard 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:31.120 BS answer, And I'll never forget Bill said, Nick, I 0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:35.120 got this one. And Bill says, Jake, you've been You've 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.120 done everything we've asked of you. We've enjoyed you being 0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:41.400 here and being a Patriot, but you're a smart kid. 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:46.160 We just think you need a little more time rehabbing 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.120 that knee and getting it right, and we think it's 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.560 the best thing for both of us to part ways 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.200 right now. But we'll keep in contact with your you 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.680 and your agent, and if you get healthy, we'd love 0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:01.640 to bring it back. So like that, that meant a 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.879 lot to me, you know, Belichick going out of his way, 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:09.279 not just treating me like another guy. But yeah, then 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.279 I ended up in Arizona with Carson Palmer, who was 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:12.919 also another just a great guy. 0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.360 Yeah, and caught what a couple of touchdowns from Carson? 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.760 Yeah, I did you have cause. 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.200 I got signed in the middle of the season after 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.200 rehaving my knee. Is actually funny. I was back in 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.200 New England working out and I was about to sign 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.759 with New England and they wanted to sign me because 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:30.400 I was in a much better spot and they had 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.239 some sign ends that were hurt and I obviously knew 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:36.520 the offense and everything else. But New England wanted to 0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.960 sign me, and so the Cardinals. But the New England 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:40.759 wanted to wait until after the bye week, and the 0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.040 Cardinals like, we need to sign you right now. So 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.759 I ended up going out to New England, I mean 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.040 going out to Arizona. Oh Man awesome. 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:54.160 And then on August sixth, twenty fourteen, Jake Ballard announces 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:54.920 his retirement. 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:57.240 And how tough a decision. 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:57.320 Was that. 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.000 It was. It was a gut check. 0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.480 Uh, it was a very hard decision, you know, being 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.720 a game that I played since third grade and dreams 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.240 coming true when Super Bowl plays, playing in the NFL 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.920 and going through injuries, I I just was not in 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.680 love with the game like. 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.200 I used to. You know, I was probably playing an 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:19.800 eighty five. 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.520 Percent of what I used to be able to do. 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:23.719 And I was in pain every day. 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:28.520 I hated going to practice. My mental mentally just exhausted 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.200 because I just could not do what I used to 0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:32.680 do and quality life was. 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.960 A big thing for me. And uh, after I. 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:39.040 Think it might have only been seven days in a 0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:42.359 training camp is when I told my agent, I said, 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:44.279 I'm done. I just can't push it anymore. You know, 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:45.840 I don't have kids. I'd like to have kids and 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.080 still be able bodied at that point. 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:50.040 In time, and I was worried about getting hurt. 0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.759 Worse not being you know, not being not playing one 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:54.600 hundred percent, worried about other injuries. 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:56.200 So I'll never forget. 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.839 I asked coach arians to have a conversation with them, 0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:02.840 and I told him put my heart on my sleeve 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:05.960 and told him I was retiring. Broke down a little bit, 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.279 and he looked at me and he said, Jake, we 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:09.240 you know, we've loved. 0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:10.560 Having you here. And I hate to hear this, but 0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.400 he's like, you know, I have any problems in my heart. 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.759 I feel like you're making the right decision for you 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:21.120 and your and your family. So it was a special moment, Jake. 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:24.440 And now you're a real estate agent in the Columbus area, 0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:29.000 possibly Upper Arlington, And how's that going for you? 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:31.520 It's going really well. 0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:35.040 I've been doing over twelve years and I've been blessed 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.479 to work with so many great people and friends and 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:41.080 you know in the community that I want to change 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.480 it for anything, And I you know, what do you 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.360 hate you to say? You went with people and I 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.720 couldn't agree, they couldn't agree more. And I really enjoyed 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:49.560 it and feel. 0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:52.080 Like it's what I'm supposed to be doing right now. 0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.080 And last thing, Jake Ballard, you've been very kind with 0:51:55.120 --> 0:52:00.719 your time words of wisdom for young athletes, young football 0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:01.719 players coming up. 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.840 What would you tell them? 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:12.480 Man, I that's a deep question. I feel like I'll 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:16.160 have a lot of thoughts. But you know, you you 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:19.880 want to make sure you don't lose track of having 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:28.640 fun and then losing. They're taking sports for granted. You 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.640 need to put everything you can into it to make 0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:36.040 sure you don't look back and regret your choices because 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.680 it's a game that can take you fear in life 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.280 and not just on the you know, competitive field or court. 0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.960 You know it can give you. 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.680 Mental toughness and training for all aspects of life. And 0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.600 it's it's it gives, it gives gives you what you. 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:50.160 Put into it. 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.760 Jake Ballard, Man, thank you so much for your time tonight. 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:56.960 This has been awesome, great stuff. All the best of 0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:01.319 you and your family. Well, I appreciate it anytime then, 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:05.240 all right, thanks so much, Jake Ballard and yeah, as always, 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:05.920 go bucks. 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:06.839 Thank you man. 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.280 Thanks all right, take care you bet. 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:15.880 That's Jake Ballard And when we come back, Linda Shanstead, 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:21.600 Professor at Xavier University. All aspects of women in sports 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.399 when we return. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk till 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:29.279 nine o'clock tonight on seven hundred WLW well W well, 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:32.040 I say it all the time on these airwaves. The 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:35.319 greatest thing to happen in sports in my lifetime is 0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:40.640 Title nine opening the door for women in sports. And 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.880 even though women have come a long way, there's still 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.640 a lot of work that needs to be done. We 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:53.080 welcome in my good friend, doctor Linda Shanstad, Professor, Xavier 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.520 University Sport Management and Marketing Department. 0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:58.000 Linda, how the heck are you? 0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:00.560 I'm great? How are you? 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:00.920 Oh? 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.240 Fantastic? Thank you so much for joining us and Linda. 0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.080 On the surface, you know, it looks like, you know, 0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.840 women's sports man gaining and popularity with the US women's 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:16.239 soccer team, the WNBA, the incredible nc DOUBA volleyball and 0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:24.839 basketball tournaments. But still, man, there's issues there with gender discrimination, sexism, 0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:29.320 unequal pay and funding, and even media coverage. 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:30.400 Am I right about that? 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:35.759 Well? I don't want to alienate fifty percent of your listeners, Chick, 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:39.520 but yeah, there's still some issues there, for sure, there are. 0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.839 But let me just say I've been a fan of 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.680 men's and women's sports for a very very long time, 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:47.440 just as you have. And quite frankly, you know, the 0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:49.719 men have had a lot of time to figure out 0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:54.440 the marketing and sponsorship, promotion, advertising piece of this. You know, 0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:56.960 women haven't really been doing it that long and so 0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.640 you know, there's a lot of things to take away 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:01.520 from how the men do things, you know, and how 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:06.000 they've been successful. But there are you know, nuances I 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.279 think in the women's game that's taken more time to 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:08.799 catch up. 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:15.400 Sure, and gosh, that would be probably marketing and media coverage, 0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:17.360 et cetera. 0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.640 Oh absolutely, I mean, women in the last two Olympics, 0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:23.160 actually probably the last three or four Olympics have only 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:27.359 garnered about seven percent of all the media coverage, you know, 0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:29.600 so that you know, that says a lot and I 0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:33.080 get it. Sponsors want a sure thing. So the ones 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:34.920 that are going to get the most money are the 0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:38.560 biggest uh you know uh sports that they're going to 0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:41.520 get a return on their investment for. And that makes 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.040 perfect sense, you know, at the bottom line, you know, 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.880 it's money. You know, money is going to drive access 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:50.000 to sports, going to drive opportunities, and it's going to 0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:54.600 drive more equitable, you know, opportunities for women for sure. 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:59.640 The Olympics are the The Winter Olympics in Italy are 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.120 what sixty two days away? And I like to say 0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:07.400 that my favorite sport in the Winter Olympics is women's 0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:08.320 figure skating. 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:10.160 I absolutely love it. 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:17.480 And being a volleyball ref and fast pitch softball umpire. Man, 0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:19.759 I look back to my days at Ohio State from 0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:23.520 seventy two to seventy six, Woody Hayes parked his Cadillac 0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:26.680 on the softball diamond on the pitchers mound. 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.600 They thought the world was ending. Far from it, Linda. 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:35.160 Well, consider the source it was, Woody. 0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:40.000 Yes, yes, And I remember sitting in doctor Phyllis Bailey's 0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:45.000 office when the title nine came down, and man, to 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:49.160 think back to those days and to where we're at now. 0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:52.920 You know a lot of great strides that I just 0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:53.759 hope continue. 0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:57.840 Well, I think they will. And you pointed out, you 0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:59.440 know a lot of the leagues now we've got a 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:03.960 women's professional baseball league, Women's professional hockey is really taking 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:07.000 some big steps, you know so, and I think the 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:10.960 Olympics are only another place to showcase you know a 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:15.160 lot of that growth, you know, the college game, you know, 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:17.200 is going to have a little bit of ways to go, 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:21.200 certainly with nil and uh, you know third party you know, 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.480 contributors to you know, the various athletes you know, and 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.280 and and that's where I think we see some of 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:28.160 the biggest inequities right now. 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:32.880 And uh, we see sports being added in high school. 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:37.320 In high school wrestling and flag football is seems to 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:38.040 be taken off. 0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.479 Yeah, and that's really really exciting. You know. Uh, women 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.520 are clam and girls are clamoring for an opportunity to 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:49.640 to compete. They want participation opportunities, and I think you know, 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.280 if you look at the Ohio State Federation or the 0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:55.360 National Federation for High School in sports, you know, they're 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.160 they're all looking for ways to get you know, both 0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:01.680 girls and boys, you know, continue becoming more involved and 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:05.360 providing additional things that you know they want to play. 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:05.640 You know. 0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:09.160 It's these are all based on interest levels and then 0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:12.880 connecting them to pro sport, college sport, you know, the 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.800 role models and coaching there. These are all great things 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:18.120 I think for boys and girls across the board. 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:22.040 Linda Shanstead is with us from Xavier University, and Linda, 0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.560 you know, I'm reading a lot of stuff about girls, 0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:33.960 you know, teenagers, you know, possibly leaving sports behind, and 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:38.400 so retention has to be huge. There's opportunity out there, 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:41.240 and I just hope the girls continue to take advantage 0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:41.480 of it. 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:42.320 Man. 0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:48.920 Judging by USA Softball and Junior Olympic Volleyball, man, thousands 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:49.760 of girls are playing. 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:51.520 I just hope they can be retained. 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.320 Well. Sports become very expensive. I mean I had two 0:58:56.400 --> 0:59:00.560 kids go through and it was thousands of dollars, especially 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.640 if they enjoyed it so much and ended up on 0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:06.640 club teams. You know, there's a financial hit that goes 0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.240 along with sport. You know, there's there's pay to play 0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:11.920 in a lot of high schools, and so you know 0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.480 there's a way that we can help defray those things. 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.360 But you know, currently right now, that's that's what our 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:20.560 model is. And so if parents want their kid to 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:23.200 be the next you know, Steph Curry, you know they're 0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:25.720 certainly going to have to you know, pay the piper 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:27.680 in order for their kids to be able to play. 0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:31.720 At least they have some enough training and then you 0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:33.520 know you kind of just see where the chips fall. 0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:37.520 But yeah, it's become a very very expensive enterprise, I think, 0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:41.240 and that's one reason that maybe some you know, boys 0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:44.160 and girls and males and females aren't able to stay 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.680 in the sport that they love for as long as 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:47.080 they do. 0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.920 Totally agree with you. I talked to some softball parents. 0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:54.640 Oh my goodness, the equipment that it takes, and then 0:59:54.640 --> 1:00:00.200 the travel and gosh, the hotel rooms, the food, the transportation. 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.880 It just uh man, you're you're up there in the 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.840 five figures, maybe even six. 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:08.720 It's crazy. 1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.160 Yeah, yeah, and there's no question about that, you know, 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:14.280 and a lot of us think, you know, my son 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:15.959 thought he was going to be, you know, the next 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:20.040 NBA player you know, out of Cincinnati, until he you know, 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:22.920 stopped at five nine and a half five ten. And 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:27.440 you can't teach size, you know, you can't. So you know, okay, 1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.240 well that's the worst plan b. So you know, and 1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:34.160 that that happens to you know, ninety nine point six 1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:37.400 percent of all the athletes. You know, there's just such 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:39.360 a small percentage that are going to go on to 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:44.520 actually be that NBA player or professional players. So it's 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:47.840 I think it's an issue, and I think it's you know, 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:51.440 it it directly addresses I think some of the inability 1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:54.000 for for kids to access sport. 1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:58.600 Well, it's great to have Zaber Universities doctor Linda Shanstead 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:02.520 with a sport management and marketing department at Xavier. UH. 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:06.080 You had to be loving last night at the Centa Center. 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:10.680 I was there and I had, you know, somehow they let, 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:14.120 you know, a couple of our competitors fans in and 1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:16.080 they I had a couple sitting in front of me 1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:18.680 and a couple behind, but we all got along just fine, 1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:22.840 and it was really exciting. And I think what Richard 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:25.960 Patino's done just in the last you know, a handful 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:28.680 of weeks from the beginning of the year, I think 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:30.760 he's made some believers. 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:32.080 Out of a lot of us, no doubt. 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:35.360 Yes, four straight wins, five out of the last six 1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:36.760 and used to do an eight. 1:01:37.240 --> 1:01:38.240 Fantastic job. 1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:42.440 Linda, can you explain to the gosh the listener what 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:46.200 the what Ohio's Save Women's Sports Act is? 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:50.440 Yeah? I know a little bit about it, but it's 1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:58.680 the idea that girls who that that the access to 1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:04.760 sport for girls who are have transitioned and have now 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:10.560 now identify as as uh as male. Uh, that's been 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:16.200 restricted or or banned and I understand it. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:17.040 I I do. 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:21.920 I think there are some concerns, you know, with you know, 1:02:22.040 --> 1:02:25.800 the the level of strength and you know, skills and 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:31.080 power that a lot of times are attributed to two boys. 1:02:31.120 --> 1:02:34.560 For me, it's it's a it's a science issue. I 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:37.400 think we're not quite there yet to determine just what's 1:02:37.480 --> 1:02:41.920 most appropriate I think for for these individuals who who 1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:44.680 you know, aren't comfortable in the body that they were 1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:47.880 born in. So there's a lot to be be said 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:50.520 about that. I mean, this is an issue that is uh, 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:55.000 you know, as high up as as the Olympic Games, 1:02:55.160 --> 1:02:58.600 you know, it goes down into college. But it also 1:02:58.680 --> 1:03:01.360 is important to remember this is a very very very 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:05.520 very small, very small number. Lest I looked, I think 1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:11.400 it was ten individuals in college period, and it's it's 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:13.720 just a very very small number in the high schools 1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:18.040 as well. But I do understand the intention. I don't 1:03:18.080 --> 1:03:21.320 think it's it's you know, I just don't think we've 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:25.080 settled that quite yet. But you know, it far from 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.240 me to think I have the answers to this. It's 1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:30.360 been very very complicated with a lot of people trying 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.680 to be what you know, to make the decisions that 1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:36.880 are most fair for any kid who wants to play sport. 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:41.320 Linda one area that really kind of bothers me and 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:45.920 I noticed this with Caitlin Clark coming out of the 1:03:46.000 --> 1:03:51.840 University of Iowa playing thirty plus games really her second 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:54.600 last year and then her final season of college basketball. 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:57.960 Then all of a sudden, there's the WNBA Draft, and 1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:01.280 then less than a month later, the forty four game 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:05.400 season starts. Man, don't they get a break? I mean, 1:04:05.760 --> 1:04:09.360 is there anything that can be done with the WNBA season? 1:04:11.040 --> 1:04:14.480 Well, chick, it's only going to get worse if the 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:18.560 WNBA commissioners and the powers that be get their way 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:23.480 with this new collective bargaining agreement, because the last projected, 1:04:23.480 --> 1:04:28.440 the last idea that was put forward was, yeah, we'll 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.360 raise the caps to almost five million dollars per team, 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:36.680 with your best players getting a million dollars and your 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:39.040 middle of the road players getting half a million, and 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:41.080 then your rookies, you know, at about two hundred and 1:04:41.760 --> 1:04:45.400 fifty dollars, which is great, but the trade off is 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:50.480 is they actually start earlier to the season almost you know. 1:04:50.600 --> 1:04:54.120 And then in addition, they want to take away the housing, 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.880 which you know, imagine being you know, as fluid as 1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:01.040 this can be sometimes with trades and an agency going on. 1:05:01.360 --> 1:05:03.120 You know, in the middle of a season, you know, 1:05:03.120 --> 1:05:06.280 somebody's got an apartment that they're renting, and now they've 1:05:06.280 --> 1:05:08.120 got to figure out how to sublet it or break 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:10.400 the lease or pay a penalty, and they're you know, 1:05:10.760 --> 1:05:13.360 so there's a lot of issues. So you know, it's 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:16.000 very very frustrating that, yeah, you're looking at, you know, 1:05:16.040 --> 1:05:18.760 allowing the players to share a little bit more in 1:05:18.800 --> 1:05:21.960 the revenue, but you're now going to make them play 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:27.000 even sooner after the draft. You're, right, creating more potential 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:29.640 for injury. And then you're also taking away some of 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:32.520 the perks that they fought very hard for in the 1:05:32.600 --> 1:05:35.120 last collective bargaining agreement in twenty twenty. 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:38.840 Oh very interesting, Linda, Thank you so much for that 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:43.760 to break down. Well, sure, we see that the NCAA 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:51.280 Women's volleyball tournament has started. Can anybody beat undefeated Nebraska? 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:57.680 Man, I wouldn't bet against I would not bet against them. 1:05:57.720 --> 1:06:01.400 They're just loaded. I mean, you know, we kind of 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:03.800 joke about some of these very very you know, talented 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:06.880 teams that their their second and third strings would would 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:10.360 be starters on you know, other top ten teams. Uh, 1:06:10.880 --> 1:06:14.200 Nebraska's really got it going on and that started with 1:06:14.360 --> 1:06:16.920 Terry Pettitt way back in the you know, the seventies 1:06:16.960 --> 1:06:20.080 and eighties, and then continued with John Cook and it's 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:23.760 certainly uh continuing with coach Busboom, who's you know, if 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:27.200 anybody who's a Louisville fan would remember her from last year. 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:30.240 So yeah, they haven't missed a beat. And they do 1:06:30.280 --> 1:06:32.840 a great job of marketing, so they're also able to 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:35.480 attract the players in the first place. And I know 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:39.520 they're nil monies or actually it's probably their their their 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:46.080 third party monies that are probably helping that situation out 1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:46.680 quite a bit. 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:49.240 I know it's a sport you know and love as 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:52.960 the former volleyball coach at Wright State and the University 1:06:53.040 --> 1:06:55.840 of Iowa, and I know you're following it very closely. 1:06:55.880 --> 1:07:00.800 And congratulations to both Right State and Xavier, even though 1:07:00.800 --> 1:07:03.800 they got knocked out in the first round, still a 1:07:03.800 --> 1:07:05.560 great accomplishment for both. 1:07:06.840 --> 1:07:10.040 It's a it's a great accomplishment, you bet, you know, 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:15.400 and you know, success just usually begets more success. And 1:07:15.680 --> 1:07:19.520 I know Christy Peppenberger at Xavier and Dave got a 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:21.760 new volleyball coach up at writes stayed here in the 1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:24.000 last few years, but they've really got it going on too. 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:28.440 You bet well, Linda, this is this has been fantastic 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:31.280 and given us kind of the state of union of 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:35.120 women's sports here and I sincerely appreciate your time. 1:07:36.720 --> 1:07:39.200 Well, it's always an honor to be able to just 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:42.560 talk sports with you, chicks. So have a great holiday 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:44.960 season and same to your your listeners. 1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:47.360 Right back at you, Linda, thank you so much. 1:07:48.480 --> 1:07:49.040 You're welcome. 1:07:49.120 --> 1:07:54.360 I Chick, take care. That's Linda Shanstead, Xavier University, man 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:59.320 professor in the Sport Management and Marketing Department. Uh, just 1:07:59.440 --> 1:08:03.880 a phenomen i'minal source for women in sports. And you're 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:06.920 listening to Sports Talk with your host, Chick Ludwig and 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:13.800 tonight's producer Sean McMahon on seven hundred WLWD the interview 1:08:13.960 --> 1:08:19.200 with Linda Shanstead, Savior University professor all things women sports. 1:08:19.960 --> 1:08:24.000 Also appreciate Jake Ballard, retired NFL tight end, joining us 1:08:24.040 --> 1:08:27.760 at the top of the seven o'clock hour. After the 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:32.000 news at eight o'clock, we're going to bring in Greg 1:08:32.040 --> 1:08:34.640 Schumacher and we're going to talk some high school football. 1:08:35.320 --> 1:08:43.120 Anderson and Saint Xavier are defeated in the state championship 1:08:43.160 --> 1:08:49.200 games at Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium in Canton 1:08:49.600 --> 1:08:53.320 over the weekend, and we're going to talk about really 1:08:53.360 --> 1:09:01.360 both games, both teams, and the OHSAA released the mister 1:09:01.439 --> 1:09:07.280 Football for Ohio. We're going to introduce him also and 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:11.080 talk about the state football playoffs. And I hate to 1:09:11.240 --> 1:09:20.280 bash the OHSAA, but the presenters, the trophy presenters at 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:25.720 the state football championships in Canton have made some embarrassing mistakes. 1:09:26.640 --> 1:09:30.000 Columbus Bishop Waterson wins the Division three title and the 1:09:30.040 --> 1:09:35.120 presenter said Division two. And then oll In Tangy Orange 1:09:35.320 --> 1:09:38.560 wins the D one state championship over Saint Zaber and 1:09:38.600 --> 1:09:42.360 the presenter forgot the year. He called them the twenty 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:46.840 twenty four state champs. I'm there, Oh my gosh, just 1:09:46.880 --> 1:09:51.360 look at the trophy. It's twenty twenty five. And my 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:55.200 good friend Tina Gears chimes in, some things never changed. 1:09:55.200 --> 1:09:57.920 They did the same thing with Elder back in the 1:09:57.960 --> 1:10:02.479 two thousand and two so I know it's tough giving 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:05.200 the speeches at the end of the game to the 1:10:05.280 --> 1:10:09.080 runner ups and the champions. But man, get the division 1:10:09.160 --> 1:10:12.400 right and get the year right. So we've reached the 1:10:12.439 --> 1:10:14.280 top of the hour. News thanks so much for joining 1:10:14.360 --> 1:10:18.400 us tonight. This is Chick Ludwig alongside tonight's producer Sean McMahon. 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:21.280 You're listening to the Home of the Reds and the 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:24.800 best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW. 1:10:24.880 --> 1:11:06.200 News eight o seven in the Queen City of Cincinnati. 1:11:06.280 --> 1:11:10.519 Chick Lugwigs, seven hundred WLW. This is sports talk. 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:16.800 Like Eric Carmon and the Raspberries my favorite song. We're 1:11:16.840 --> 1:11:20.679 going all the way to nine o'clock tonight, and it's 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:25.120 awesome to have Sean McMahon in my corner tonight running 1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:30.320 the big board in the seven hundred WLW Control Center. 1:11:31.680 --> 1:11:33.760 Hey, let's talk some high school football. 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:37.920 What a weekend in Canton at Tom Benson Hall of 1:11:37.920 --> 1:11:46.559 Fame Stadium with our great friend, content director part owner 1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:51.400 of Tri Statefootball dot Com, the one and only Greg Shoemaker. Greg, 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:54.599 thanks so much for carving out some time for us tonight. Brother, 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:57.080 you're busting into the sixties in style. 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:01.320 Yeah, how about that? I went up Thursday night. It 1:12:01.360 --> 1:12:06.839 was my thirtieth ninth high school state championship game I evercovered. Unfortunately, 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:09.240 Anderson lost to Avon h Man. 1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:10.160 But good. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:12.800 I gotta tell you that Avon team, they are the 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:17.760 class of Division two as good as Anderson has been. 1:12:18.840 --> 1:12:21.639 Avon's now won back to back state titles in Division two. 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:25.040 You got give me their credit. They beat Anderson the 1:12:25.080 --> 1:12:28.799 last two years, given Anderson their only loss in the tournament. 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:32.200 And then in order to get there to play Anderson, 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:35.960 Avon had to beat Maslin in the state semi finals 1:12:36.000 --> 1:12:38.320 in back to back years. So I had thought. And 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:43.160 they won eight regional titles in the last nine years. 1:12:43.200 --> 1:12:46.479 So I mean, Avon's really really good. And you know, 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:50.599 it was a tough night for Anderson. They had ten 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:53.680 possessions of that game, Chick, and five of them they 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:56.960 turned the ball over on downs. Another one they threw 1:12:57.000 --> 1:13:01.320 an interception at that Avon picked off on the Anderson twelve. 1:13:01.439 --> 1:13:03.960 Easy score for brave On. But they went up twenty 1:13:03.960 --> 1:13:06.200 one to nothing in this game. And I went back 1:13:06.200 --> 1:13:10.000 and looked at Anderson's games. They hadn't been down fourteen 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:13.479 to nothing in a game since two thousand October twenty 1:13:13.560 --> 1:13:16.800 twenty two, thirty thirty four to thirty five straight games 1:13:16.880 --> 1:13:19.760 without ever being down fourteen to nothing. Then all of 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:22.559 a sudden, Avon's up twenty one to nothing in that game. 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:27.320 But again Anderson's not done. They returned ten oh eleven 1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:30.400 starters on offense. Next year, They're gonna be fun. And 1:13:31.400 --> 1:13:34.160 quarterback Owen scaffs at the record for passing yards in 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:37.839 the state championship game in Division two. He had almost 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:41.360 three hundred and ninety or three hundred and sixty some 1:13:42.040 --> 1:13:45.000 ended up thirty one yards short of five thousand for 1:13:45.080 --> 1:13:47.880 the year and would have made him the eighth player 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:52.679 in Ohio history with five thousand passing yards in the season. Now, 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:55.599 Turner Lache up at Sidney Lanman threw for forty nine 1:13:55.640 --> 1:13:59.200 to ninety this year. So Owen scaffs total of forty 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:04.320 six thirty nine or I'm sorry, forty nine thirty forty 1:14:04.400 --> 1:14:06.880 nine thirty six or whatever it is, we'll go down 1:14:07.000 --> 1:14:13.400 as the eleventh best single season passing yardage in Ohio history. 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:16.960 So some good things out of that. Also, Tyson Weaver, 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:20.680 the wide receiver at Anderson, had eleven receptions in that 1:14:20.720 --> 1:14:23.880 game that was tied for most in the Division two 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:26.800 state championship game. He'll be back, he finished with ninety 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.400 one catches this year for thirteen hundred and seventy five 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:35.360 yards and twenty touchdown receptions. A transfer from Simon Kenton's, 1:14:35.680 --> 1:14:38.400 he'll be a senior next year. I think he's close 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:41.519 to if not over two hundred career catches, he's close 1:14:41.560 --> 1:14:44.040 to it, and a fine, fine career going into his 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:45.200 senior season, for sure. 1:14:45.439 --> 1:14:50.160 Definitely want to congratulate the Anderson Raptors on a phenomenal season. 1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:54.719 But man, I was watching that game and right away 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:58.840 before the first snap, they had to call a time out, 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:02.800 and I guess it was an equipment issue, that's what 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:08.959 the announcers were saying. But regardless, and then to fall behind, 1:15:09.240 --> 1:15:12.400 you know, gosh, I snap over I believe they tried 1:15:12.439 --> 1:15:15.040 to punt. Yeah, you know, a snap over the head 1:15:15.120 --> 1:15:18.360 and you're right fourteen to nothing before you blinked, and 1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:21.720 then it was twenty one to nothing and it was just, man, 1:15:21.760 --> 1:15:25.120 you're digging a hole that was almost impossible to climb 1:15:25.120 --> 1:15:28.720 out of. But nevertheless, what an incredible season for the 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:29.879 Raptors of Anderson. 1:15:30.920 --> 1:15:33.599 Yeah, I mean self inflicted wounds and they know it. 1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:35.960 You know, last year they lost to Avon in that 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:39.439 it was a driving snow and a blustery win. The 1:15:39.479 --> 1:15:43.200 conditions were kretdy and I think everybody thought that, you know, hey, 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:46.559 now Anderson gets that passing game gone, but it just 1:15:46.600 --> 1:15:50.840 didn't happen. I mean, this Avon team took out Jordan Davis, 1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:54.800 their running back for Anderson had was really nondescript in 1:15:54.840 --> 1:15:57.519 this game. And Jordan came in with over six hundred 1:15:57.600 --> 1:16:01.040 yards rushing, over seven hundred yards, receiving seventy receiving catches, 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:06.040 twenty one rushing touchdowns, and they they limited him. And 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:09.479 you know, I think it. Look, this Anderson team has 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:12.400 got enough talent to get back to the finals again 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:15.320 next year. All they're great players on the majority of 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:17.479 them are coming back on defense as well, you know 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:21.160 as the ten starters on offense. But look, this was 1:16:21.160 --> 1:16:23.880 self inflicted los. This is stuff that can be corrected. 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:25.720 And if you want to go beat the best, I 1:16:25.760 --> 1:16:28.400 guarantee you Avon or Maslin is gonna be waiting for 1:16:28.479 --> 1:16:32.080 him again next year in the finals. But yeah, I mean, 1:16:32.080 --> 1:16:34.640 this team's this team's got the talent to get back there. 1:16:34.720 --> 1:16:37.640 You know what, They're thirty nine and two over the 1:16:37.720 --> 1:16:39.519 last two seasons, or twenty nine and two over the 1:16:39.560 --> 1:16:41.799 last seasons. Incredible fantastic football. 1:16:41.920 --> 1:16:42.120 Yeah. 1:16:42.120 --> 1:16:45.280 Greg Shoemaker of Tristate Football dot Com with us. And 1:16:45.560 --> 1:16:49.120 before we get to the Division one game all in 1:16:49.200 --> 1:16:52.439 Tangy Orange over Saint X twenty eight to fourteen, I 1:16:52.479 --> 1:16:57.080 want to touch on Columbus Bishop Waterson thirty to nothing 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:01.040 over Toledo Central Catholic. Now they they have the longest 1:17:01.080 --> 1:17:05.120 winning streak, now that Marion Local seventy six game winning 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:09.120 streak has been snapped by Saint Henry, and Saint Henry 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:12.880 winds up winning a state title today. But how about 1:17:12.880 --> 1:17:17.080 this for Waterson. Okay, back to back state football championships. 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:20.439 Boys soccer team won the state this year. The girls 1:17:20.479 --> 1:17:23.960 were second in the state. Girls cross country won state. 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:29.160 So Bishop Watterson's had an unbelievable fall and the quarterback 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:33.280 rose what four interceptions and they still win thirty to nothing. 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:34.960 That defense was unbelievable. 1:17:36.439 --> 1:17:40.320 Yeah, that's a Drew Bellisari is the quarterback here at Watterson. 1:17:40.600 --> 1:17:44.439 He is a Miami of Ohio A commit. I'm not sure, 1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:46.519 but I think it might be that Steve Belsaris kid 1:17:46.560 --> 1:17:49.519 that went to Oia State. Look, this is this Waterson 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:54.080 team's good in the state semi finals. They crossed Typical 1:17:54.160 --> 1:17:56.679 New and Typical New had a great team this year. 1:17:56.960 --> 1:17:59.400 Matt Burbacker did a great job with those guys and 1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:04.320 Man and Chick. That's an impressive Waterson squad. They took 1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:07.240 care of business. If you look at their last two 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:10.600 years in this thirty game win streak, very impressive. And 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:13.439 I know some people are out there, they're talking about 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:17.120 them being one of the best teams, the best team 1:18:17.120 --> 1:18:19.320 in the state of Ohio this year. But you know, 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:24.800 very very awesome year for Waterson, There's no doubt about it. 1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:26.120 Man really good. 1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:26.679 Hey. 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:31.599 Now the Division one game twenty eight to fourteen olin 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:36.479 Tangy Orange its first state championship fifteen to zero, knocking 1:18:36.600 --> 1:18:40.439 off the Saint Savior Bombers. Want to reiterate what a 1:18:40.520 --> 1:18:45.400 great season Saint X had to bounce back from you know, 1:18:45.520 --> 1:18:50.400 losses to what Mohler and Elder and to defeat Elder 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:54.600 and then get to state what an accomplishment by the Bombers. 1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:56.400 It really was. 1:18:56.960 --> 1:18:59.120 When you look back to this team, they were sitting there, 1:19:00.080 --> 1:19:01.760 so it's back to back games, like you said, then 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.040 they avenge those two losses to Elder and Mueller in 1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:07.080 the playoffs. Uh, did a great job. And you know 1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:10.320 the game against Elder at pay Corps this year in 1:19:10.360 --> 1:19:12.920 the regional championship fantastic. 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:13.439 Uh. 1:19:13.479 --> 1:19:16.680 Then then they go on and knock off Middletown to 1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:20.240 get to the state championship game. And you know, Daniel 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:22.560 Bulmer goes down to that Middletown game. He might have 1:19:22.600 --> 1:19:24.920 made a big difference in this old and tense Orange game. 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:28.280 But again, much like Avon, you got to give your 1:19:28.600 --> 1:19:32.400 hat off in credit to old and Tansey Orange fifteen 1:19:32.439 --> 1:19:35.599 and oh this year Levi Davis their quarterback. 1:19:35.640 --> 1:19:44.000 He's a dual threat guy. Yeah, phenomenal and check he 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:46.439 fits that program there. You know that quarterbacks they have 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:50.040 now to Ohio you as a dual threat to this kid. 1:19:50.320 --> 1:19:52.439 As long as that coach stays down there at Ohio you, 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:55.320 this kid could have a really fun run in the MAC. 1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:59.360 I mean, fantastic player, fantastic kid. Uh. They get all 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:03.160 they deserves. Second straight team from Lewis Lewis. 1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:06.240 Wherever it is it was center, Yeah Lewis. 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:08.880 Yeah, I mean there's four ol and Tangi teams out 1:20:08.880 --> 1:20:11.000 of Lewis Center, now right, I mean we think Lakona 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:14.360 East and West is big ol in Tangi they split 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:15.480 four times. 1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:16.360 So unbelievable. 1:20:16.680 --> 1:20:20.639 Great, great program and area for football up there, Lewis Center. 1:20:20.680 --> 1:20:23.880 I think that's uh with's that county up there, that's 1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:28.000 just north of Columbus. 1:20:26.920 --> 1:20:30.160 Delaware, Delaware County, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, good football 1:20:30.200 --> 1:20:31.160 being played up there. 1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:35.599 So once again, Orange twenty eight, Saint Savior fourteen, Avon 1:20:35.760 --> 1:20:40.479 thirty seven, Anderson twenty Waterson in Division three shuts out 1:20:40.479 --> 1:20:45.080 Toledo Central Catholic thirty to nothing. Cleveland Glenville with coach 1:20:45.920 --> 1:20:49.160 Ted Ginn Oh my gosh, forty five to seven over 1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:54.439 Shelby for the Division four title. Wheelersburg and Liberty Center. 1:20:54.720 --> 1:20:58.360 Right now. Division five, it's being played right now? Is 1:20:58.360 --> 1:21:02.479 the is the final game? Six Kirtland once a Hornet, 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:06.280 always a hornet, northeast of Cleveland up there in Lake 1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:11.559 County forty one to six over Bascombe Hopewell Loudon forty 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:14.719 one to six. Kirtland wins, and then Saint Henry, which 1:21:14.840 --> 1:21:20.960 knocked off Wow Marion Local, stopping the Flyers seventy six 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:24.680 game winning streak. In the semifinals in Saint Henry all 1:21:24.720 --> 1:21:28.160 over Jeromesville Hillsdale thirty seven to three. 1:21:28.800 --> 1:21:31.839 So what a state? What a state tournament? 1:21:32.800 --> 1:21:34.680 Yeah, chick, I was just looking at something on the 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:39.439 Twitter before the last two games tonight. The average margin 1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:42.120 of victory in the five the first five state championship 1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:45.360 games was like twenty six point seven points or something. 1:21:45.680 --> 1:21:48.920 And since they went to this format at the OSSA 1:21:49.040 --> 1:21:52.800 and the tournament, the largest victory of margin and state 1:21:52.880 --> 1:21:57.000 championship games was just a little bit above that. And 1:21:57.040 --> 1:22:01.360 that's happened like in fifty years ago when it first 1:22:01.360 --> 1:22:04.960 started or whatever it was. But this is like the 1:22:05.120 --> 1:22:08.599 best teams are blowing out the second best teams by 1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:11.720 far in this tournament, but not so much blown them out, 1:22:11.760 --> 1:22:13.439 but I think they come out and they've all come 1:22:13.439 --> 1:22:15.800 out and made a statement all five winners so far 1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:20.519 of the tournament. So yeah, very impressive teams again, like 1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:24.559 I said, I mean Avon, Olan, Tangy Orange, just you know, 1:22:24.640 --> 1:22:27.160 as good as we are in southwest Ohio. Like it 1:22:27.360 --> 1:22:29.960 hats off to these guys because they've been fantastic. 1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:31.719 Yeah, this weekend. 1:22:31.920 --> 1:22:35.839 Coach Mike Schneider, who coached Man at Miamisburg, at Wayne 1:22:36.920 --> 1:22:39.200 all over the place. He's been going up there for 1:22:39.200 --> 1:22:41.479 forty years and he said that is one of the 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:45.760 most impressive teams he's ever seen in Division one and 1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:49.439 Olan Tangy Orange and can we throw some shade here, 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:53.360 Great Shoemaker of Tri State football dot Com on this 1:22:53.479 --> 1:22:58.519 year's Mister Football. The dude's name is Grady Kinsey from 1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:02.280 Ganaden Hutton, Indian Valley. A five foot eight, two d 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:06.000 and five pound running back and linebacker. How about this 1:23:06.720 --> 1:23:11.400 this year two thousand and five and eighty five yards rushing, 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:19.280 forty touchdowns and oh my gosh, his uh. 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:21.840 I mean, his resume is just off the charts. 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:25.439 Yeah, so very much like Corey Kiner when when Roger 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:28.559 Bacon won it. You know, a small school guy who 1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:34.240 won the Mister Football. This kid last year they took 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:38.800 on Tapped in the state semi final game and he 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:42.519 put on a show there. And I voted for Rider 1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:45.920 Hooks for Player of the Year Mister Ohio Mister Football. 1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:48.720 I had this kid second and Matt Ponatowski third in 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:51.960 my voting for Ohio Mister Football this year. But yeah, 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.479 I mean definitely earnd it. Very similar, like I said, 1:23:54.600 --> 1:23:59.439 very similar numbers to Corey Kiner rushing wise when he 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:02.880 was at Roger Baker won this thing a few years back. Yeah, 1:24:02.920 --> 1:24:05.759 I mean that's all. I mean, just a great college 1:24:06.040 --> 1:24:08.280 or high school career, what you know. I think that's 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.360 one of the great things about Ohio Mister Football. Sometimes 1:24:11.400 --> 1:24:14.519 you have like the best of the best players and 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:18.799 then sometimes you have just this awesome high school football player. 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:21.720 And that's what Kinsey was. Definitely, it was a great 1:24:21.800 --> 1:24:22.960 high school football player. 1:24:23.040 --> 1:24:26.439 Only the third Mister Football Award winner from Eastern or 1:24:26.560 --> 1:24:31.840 Southeastern Ohio, joining Zanesville's Buster Howe in nineteen eighty seven 1:24:31.920 --> 1:24:37.080 and of course Athens Joe Burrow in two thy fourteen. 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:41.320 But Kinsey all right, first in Ohio High School Athletic 1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:45.800 Association history with one hundred and thirty three career touchdowns, 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:49.839 second in total points at eight forty, third in career 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:54.240 rushing yards eight thousand, six hundred and seven, and third 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:58.840 in single season touchdowns with fifty man His three thy 1:24:59.000 --> 1:25:02.679 two hundred and seven eight rushing yards in twenty twenty 1:25:02.720 --> 1:25:06.920 four ranked ninth. So the dude is an absolute beast. 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:10.679 For Wow, So I had to give that cat some shade, 1:25:10.880 --> 1:25:11.360 no doubt. 1:25:11.680 --> 1:25:14.759 Yeah, I hope he gets one of an offer from somewhere. 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:17.240 You know, he could play he can survive in the MAC. 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:20.280 You know, We've had a lot of guys like that 1:25:20.280 --> 1:25:23.679 that are very good high school running backs that get 1:25:24.200 --> 1:25:26.720 a preferred walk on offer, and sometimes they don't show 1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:28.519 up for two or three years. This is one of 1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:30.080 those kids. I mean, whether he ends up at like 1:25:30.080 --> 1:25:33.000 a West Virginia or OHIU or a kid's state or 1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:35.760 somewhere like that, somebody take a chance on this kid 1:25:35.760 --> 1:25:38.799 because he's a gamer man and he wins. 1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:40.080 He's kind of like those kids. 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:45.840 Well, if you can't get that that nice offer, man, 1:25:45.880 --> 1:25:48.559 he could wind up at Dayton, he could wind up 1:25:48.680 --> 1:25:53.120 at a John Carroll or a Mount Union. Who knows. 1:25:53.280 --> 1:25:56.599 But I think the kids got a phenomenal future, no 1:25:56.720 --> 1:26:01.479 doubt I do. Yeah, but what a season, Greg, You 1:26:01.520 --> 1:26:06.360 can uh man, you can breathe now, hopefully not really. 1:26:06.520 --> 1:26:08.680 The All Ohio teams come out next week. Check. I 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:12.200 got Kevin articles. Starting on Monday on Tri State Football 1:26:12.280 --> 1:26:15.439 dot Com. We will have the Division six and seven 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:19.479 all All Ohio teams. Then the next day it's uh 1:26:19.960 --> 1:26:21.840 four and five, and then two and three, and then 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:24.960 on Thursday, you're. 1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:25.880 Like major League Baseball. 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:30.720 Just yeah, uh you never quit titioned it out a 1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:34.320 little bit at a time, and uh, with all bases covered, man, 1:26:34.360 --> 1:26:35.000 great stuff. 1:26:36.240 --> 1:26:37.840 Yeah, and then after that, I mean we'll be in 1:26:37.920 --> 1:26:40.520 the All Tri State team. You know, we get are 1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:45.320 the best players from you know, Southeast Indiana, southwest Ohio 1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:49.479 and includes Dayton and our Northern Kentucky teams. After this 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:53.920 week or coming up, that'll that'll start being in being 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:55.760 in the fold on Tri State Football dot com and 1:26:55.800 --> 1:26:57.880 that runs all the way up to our awards show 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:01.719 on President's Day. I think it's w Monday, February sixteenth. 1:27:01.720 --> 1:27:04.320 This year at the Holy Grail, we will have our 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:10.240 Player of the Years from Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio Dayton or 1:27:10.280 --> 1:27:14.320 a Cincinnatian Dayton, you know, offensive, defensive, and Teams of 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:16.880 the year those are still up for grabs. There's been 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:19.400 some great teams and we might not have any state 1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:22.599 champions this year in any of those those places, but boy, 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:24.760 we have some great stories and some great teams to 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:28.000 talk about. I mean, so Tri State football is not 1:27:28.080 --> 1:27:31.360 stopping anytime soon, all the way through February for sure. 1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:33.840 Then and we might take a little spring break for 1:27:34.479 --> 1:27:36.280 a little March madness about. 1:27:36.040 --> 1:27:36.640 What it's like. 1:27:36.960 --> 1:27:41.240 It's like, you see trying to Trey Carroll the Aquaman. 1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:44.880 You couldn't stop him, you couldn't even contain him. And 1:27:44.920 --> 1:27:48.679 that's what Trice State football is all about locally. So Greg, 1:27:48.880 --> 1:27:51.320 thank you so much for your time tonight. Really appreciate it. 1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:51.559 Man. 1:27:52.800 --> 1:27:55.559 Awesome, Hey chiit have a happy holiday season. And God 1:27:55.560 --> 1:27:56.639 bless you and your family. 1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:59.920 Right back at you, and man, you're busting into your sixty. 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:02.519 He's in style, I know. 1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:02.800 Man. 1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:04.040 We'll catch it up with you, brother. 1:28:04.479 --> 1:28:08.080 Yeah, all right, have fun, be safe, you bet, man, 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:12.400 Thank you so much. Great, awesome. Hey, uh, we're gonna 1:28:12.400 --> 1:28:14.960 come back with more. Uh, man, I haven't even touched 1:28:15.000 --> 1:28:19.040 on the Bengals. We'll update some scores and fired up 1:28:19.080 --> 1:28:24.080 here for the Buckeyes and whoa and uh just great 1:28:24.120 --> 1:28:27.760 to have you with us tonight on seven hundred WLW W. 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:30.800 Awesome to have you. 1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:36.400 With me tonight, and fantastic to have Sean McMahon as 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:39.840 tonight's producer keeping the Chickster off the Legend in the 1:28:39.840 --> 1:28:43.120 Fairway and we are wide open this last half hour. 1:28:43.880 --> 1:28:46.400 I've got my coffee, I've got my computer. All I 1:28:46.439 --> 1:28:48.720 need is you at five one, three, seven four nine 1:28:48.800 --> 1:28:53.280 seven thousand, one eight hundred the Big One. Indiana has 1:28:53.320 --> 1:28:56.599 taken a three to nothing lead over Ohio State after 1:28:56.720 --> 1:29:04.000 Julian saying through an interception hip ball red zone, but 1:29:05.160 --> 1:29:08.200 the Buckeyes held the Hoosiers out of the end zone 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:13.920 and Indiana jumped on Ohio State with a Fueld goal 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:16.479 for a three to zero lead here in the first quarter. 1:29:17.800 --> 1:29:22.559 Want to thank tonight's guests Jake Ballard, Linda Shanstead, and 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:28.680 Greg Schumacher making this show. Dare I say, I'd like 1:29:28.720 --> 1:29:32.960 to think above average? Well, it's the Bengals and the 1:29:33.000 --> 1:29:40.960 Bills tomorrow in Buffalo actually Orchard Park, and been up 1:29:41.000 --> 1:29:44.759 there a few times during my days as the Bengals 1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:48.920 beat Rider. And when you turn the corner and start 1:29:49.040 --> 1:29:54.280 heading up to the stadium, it's an unbelievable site because 1:29:54.680 --> 1:30:02.360 on both sides of the street people are tailgating, drinking 1:30:02.439 --> 1:30:08.679 their Labat Blue beer. It is truly an awesome sight. 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:14.800 The Buffalo Bills fans known as the Bills Mafia. 1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:19.600 Now. I really enjoy reading Jay Morrison. 1:30:22.200 --> 1:30:25.600 Of Bengals on SI and he came out with a 1:30:25.640 --> 1:30:35.000 story this week courtesy some stats from sport Radar database 1:30:36.520 --> 1:30:41.800 about how efficient the Bengals are winning games in cold weather, 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:49.839 and since two thousand, when it is thirty degrees or colder, 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:55.559 the Bengals have a sixteen and eight record. That's a 1:30:55.600 --> 1:30:59.360 six sixty seven winning percentage, and that's second only to 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:04.040 New England's thirty three to ten record, which is a 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:09.599 seven sixty seven winning percentage. So thirty degrees or colder 1:31:09.680 --> 1:31:12.800 since two thousand, Bengals are sixteen to eight. 1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:18.040 And then as the road team playing on the road 1:31:18.160 --> 1:31:19.080 in thirty. 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:25.559 Degrees or less with at least four road games, the 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:29.840 Bengals are seven and four and that is the best 1:31:30.160 --> 1:31:35.240 road record thirty degrees or colder. That's six thirty six 1:31:36.000 --> 1:31:38.840 winning percentage, and the Bengals are five and one in 1:31:38.880 --> 1:31:42.559 their last six games on the road playing in thirty 1:31:42.600 --> 1:31:46.479 degrees or colder, So that bodes well for the Bengals 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:52.280 tomorrow against the Buffalo Bills, and of course the Bills 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:59.280 with quarterback Josh Allen just an incredible stat. Allen has 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:04.599 six career rushing touchdowns, making him the NFL's career leader 1:32:05.280 --> 1:32:10.960 for quarterbacks, a record he's set this month, surpassing Cam Newton. 1:32:15.040 --> 1:32:18.320 His seventy six rushing tds rank him among the top 1:32:18.400 --> 1:32:22.639 twenty five all time players, including Hall of Fame running backs, 1:32:24.040 --> 1:32:29.599 highlighting his exceptional dual thread ability as a quarterback, Josh Allen, 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:34.920 Bengals don't necessarily have to stop him, They've just got 1:32:34.960 --> 1:32:39.559 to contain him. And Man James Cook just a phenomenal 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:44.240 running back for the Buffalo Bills. And I've asked myself 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:49.479 numerous times, how is this defense of the Bengals gotten better? 1:32:51.160 --> 1:32:55.600 And they have improved the last few games, and it 1:32:55.680 --> 1:33:03.439 comes down to one person, quarterback Joe Burrow. When Burrow 1:33:03.560 --> 1:33:09.200 is on the field, he raises everyone's level, not just 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:13.680 on offense but on defense. And the hustle plays that 1:33:13.720 --> 1:33:18.120 we saw last week on Thanksgiving Night against the Baltimore 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:26.880 Ravens fantastic. The Bengals are four and eight. Both Baltimore 1:33:26.960 --> 1:33:33.760 and Pittsburgh are six and six. Pittsburgh plays at Baltimore 1:33:33.800 --> 1:33:38.400 on Sunday. One of those teams will go to seven 1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:41.800 and six, and even if the Bengals win and get 1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:46.160 to five and eight, they'll still be two games back. 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:52.840 If the Bengals lose, they'll be three games back with 1:33:53.000 --> 1:34:00.200 four to play. So every game it feels like it's 1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:07.160 playoffs right now going into Buffalo. So Man strap it 1:34:07.200 --> 1:34:13.160 on for tomorrow at one o'clock in Buffalo for your 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:20.920 Cincinnati Bengals and the best place to want to celebrate 1:34:20.960 --> 1:34:26.639 a Bengals victory. It will be at Wings and Rings 1:34:27.200 --> 1:34:33.360 the King's Mills location fifty five seventeen King Center Drive 1:34:33.520 --> 1:34:39.479 in Mason. 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Hey, we're gonna take one final break here, 1:37:35.520 --> 1:37:39.920 come back update some scores. Happy to take your calls 1:37:39.960 --> 1:37:42.400 at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one, 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:45.800 eight hundred the Big One. It's Chick Ludwig Sports Talk 1:37:46.160 --> 1:37:53.519 seven hundred WLW, eight minutes before the top of the hour, 1:37:53.680 --> 1:37:57.439 Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. This is sports Talk. We're 1:37:57.479 --> 1:38:00.280 going till nine o'clock tonight and that's when Donna he 1:38:00.320 --> 1:38:03.680 takes over these airwaves. Well, want to update you on 1:38:03.720 --> 1:38:06.160 some scores. Indiana has a three to dozing lead over 1:38:06.240 --> 1:38:11.320 Ohio State, but the Buckeyes just intercepted Fernando Mendoza and 1:38:11.360 --> 1:38:12.880 they're in pretty good shape. 1:38:12.880 --> 1:38:15.880 Here in the plus territory. 1:38:16.920 --> 1:38:20.599 At Lucas Oil Stadium in the Big Ten Championship Game, 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:24.640 Duke has taken a seven to nothing lead over Virginia 1:38:24.840 --> 1:38:27.800 in the final seconds of the first half. Seven to 1:38:27.800 --> 1:38:32.519 nothing in favor of the Duke Blue Devils. The Georgia 1:38:32.600 --> 1:38:36.280 Bulldogs all over Alabama today twenty eight to seven in 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:39.599 the SEC title game. And if you watch the Big 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:45.920 twelfth Championship while Texas Tech thirty four to seven over BYU, 1:38:46.120 --> 1:38:49.760 and when you think about the UC Bearcats, that's how 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:53.479 good you have to be. I mean, BYU destroyed UC 1:38:54.240 --> 1:38:57.639 and then BYU gets destroyed by Texas Tech today thirty 1:38:57.640 --> 1:39:00.759 four to seven in the Big twelve championship game. That's 1:39:00.760 --> 1:39:05.520 how good you have to be to win that conference championship. 1:39:06.120 --> 1:39:08.960 And last night tu Lane over North Texas thirty four 1:39:09.000 --> 1:39:13.680 to twenty one, in James Madison over Troy thirty one 1:39:13.720 --> 1:39:18.200 to fourteen. Could we see Twulane and or James Madison 1:39:19.000 --> 1:39:23.280 in the college football playoff? We'll find out tomorrow at 1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:28.479 noon on ESPN when the final bracket of twelve teams 1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:34.200 is revealed. And you can't help but think, folks, no 1:39:34.280 --> 1:39:40.280 matter how much the college football playoffs expand, and I 1:39:40.320 --> 1:39:44.040 really can't see them expanding beyond twelve, there's going to 1:39:44.080 --> 1:39:50.080 be somebody disappointed, upset, angry that they didn't make it. 1:39:51.240 --> 1:39:58.920 In the big question tomorrow, will Miami Hurricanes and or 1:39:59.040 --> 1:40:05.200 Notre Dame make the twelve team playoff? Miami beat Notre Dame, 1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:10.000 but Notre Dame is ahead of Miami in the rankings. 1:40:10.080 --> 1:40:15.240 In the standings, so if Duke wins tonight, that's just 1:40:15.280 --> 1:40:20.120 going to throw everything out the window. It's going to 1:40:20.160 --> 1:40:27.920 be crazy. If Duke upsets seventeenth rank Virginia. I want 1:40:27.920 --> 1:40:33.080 to throw some shade here at the Miami RedHawks. And 1:40:33.200 --> 1:40:38.679 even though Miami lost today to Western Michigan in the 1:40:38.840 --> 1:40:42.759 MAC Conference championship game at Ford Field, a Detroit, twenty 1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:47.840 three to thirteen, the mere fact that Miami reached the 1:40:47.920 --> 1:40:54.080 championship game, gosh, borders on a miracle. They've lost their 1:40:54.080 --> 1:40:58.280 first three games of the season, with two games remaining 1:40:58.320 --> 1:41:05.360 in the regular season against Buffalo and ball State. Their quarterback, 1:41:05.600 --> 1:41:11.559 to Kwan Finn, leaves the program. A seventh year player 1:41:11.680 --> 1:41:16.160 who played at Toledo and then at Baylor and then 1:41:16.280 --> 1:41:21.360 was Miami's quarterback this year, ups and leaves the program 1:41:22.080 --> 1:41:28.920 to get ready for the NFL Draft, But Chuck Martin, 1:41:29.200 --> 1:41:35.560 head coach of the RedHawks, undaunted. He turns to freshman 1:41:35.680 --> 1:41:40.600 quarterback Thomas scott Kowski from Ben Davis High School, a 1:41:40.760 --> 1:41:49.080 freshman from Indianapolis, and Thomas scott Kowski leads the RedHawks 1:41:49.400 --> 1:41:52.760 to a pair of victories into the MAC title game 1:41:54.840 --> 1:41:58.639 and then Thomas scott Kowski got injured today in Henry 1:41:58.720 --> 1:42:05.320 Hessen needed to come on and finish up. But what 1:42:05.479 --> 1:42:12.160 plagued Miami today. Wow, Western Michigan's rushing attack fifty six 1:42:12.280 --> 1:42:15.759 carries two hundred and eighty six yards on the ground, 1:42:16.760 --> 1:42:20.080 one to eleven through the air for Western Michigan and 1:42:20.200 --> 1:42:23.480 brock Lowry. 1:42:23.640 --> 1:42:24.760 Miami ooh. 1:42:24.840 --> 1:42:28.240 On the ground thirty one carries for only seventy three yards, 1:42:28.400 --> 1:42:34.240 a two point four yard average on the ground. Hessen 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:38.839 and Gotkowski combined for one hundred and ninety nine yards passing, 1:42:39.880 --> 1:42:46.479 but it was just too much Western Michigan. Western Michigan 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:50.519 led sixteen to six at halftime, scored seven in the 1:42:50.560 --> 1:42:56.599 third quarter. Miami scored seven in the fourth, but Western 1:42:56.640 --> 1:43:00.800 Michigan improves to nine and four with the victory today 1:43:00.800 --> 1:43:04.040 of the MAC Championship. The RedHawks fall to seven and six. 1:43:04.680 --> 1:43:10.240 Miami will find out, along with the UC Bearcats, what 1:43:10.280 --> 1:43:15.400 their date is for a bowl game. So my question 1:43:15.520 --> 1:43:23.320 keeps coming up, what is who is UC's rival. Wish 1:43:23.320 --> 1:43:29.920 it was pitt Wish it was Louisville, but they're in 1:43:29.960 --> 1:43:35.960 the ACC. Maybe it's West Virginia. Maybe they can work 1:43:36.000 --> 1:43:42.120 out a final game as a rivalry game during rivalry 1:43:42.160 --> 1:43:47.040 weekend late in the season, we'll find out a lot 1:43:47.040 --> 1:43:51.960 of great discussion. Congratulations to Xavier Musketeers, seventy nine to 1:43:51.960 --> 1:43:56.040 seventy four winners in the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. 1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:56.920 Not showdown. 1:44:00.120 --> 1:44:04.640 If the Bearcats can't beat Eastern Michigan at home, I 1:44:04.640 --> 1:44:07.880 don't care who was injured in that game. Boba Miller 1:44:08.120 --> 1:44:12.240 was out. You've got to win that game. How can 1:44:12.280 --> 1:44:16.200 you expect UC to go into Sintas Center and win 1:44:16.320 --> 1:44:16.880 that game? 1:44:17.720 --> 1:44:18.559 You see was the. 1:44:20.120 --> 1:44:25.360 UC has tremendous athletes, but they struggled to shoot the ball. 1:44:27.640 --> 1:44:28.960 And there there's. 1:44:28.800 --> 1:44:31.799 Specialty is supposed to be defense, but they could not stop. 1:44:34.920 --> 1:44:50.799 They absolutely couldn't stop Xavior. Congratulations to the Savior Musketeers. Also, 1:44:51.360 --> 1:44:56.519 Anderson and Saint x He had a phenomenal high school 1:44:56.520 --> 1:45:00.639 football seasons, but they came up short in these state 1:45:00.760 --> 1:45:11.519 championship games Sanex losing to Olin Tangy Orange last night 1:45:12.800 --> 1:45:20.320 and earlier this weekend, Avon all over the Anderson Raptors. Nevertheless, 1:45:21.080 --> 1:45:27.439 great seasons and I look forward to reading more about 1:45:27.439 --> 1:45:31.479 all the great high school players around the tri State 1:45:31.560 --> 1:45:36.200 area on Tri statefootball dot Com. Special thanks to our 1:45:36.240 --> 1:45:40.240 guest tonight, Jake Ballard, Linda Shanstead, and Greg Schumacher, and 1:45:40.320 --> 1:45:43.680 a special thanks to tonight's producer Sean McMahon. Keeping the 1:45:43.760 --> 1:45:47.040 Chickster off, the legend in the Fairway Man, keep that 1:45:47.160 --> 1:45:51.160 remote going strong, and who Day tomorrow against the Buffalo 1:45:51.200 --> 1:45:54.559 Bills Until next time, which will be Tuesday night as 1:45:54.600 --> 1:45:57.880 I fill in for Lance McAllister. 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