1
00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:43,440
Speaker 1: Six nine in the Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwigs

2
00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,800
Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W.

3
00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,040
Speaker 2: This is Sports Talk.

4
00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,280
Speaker 3: Sean McMahon is tonight's producer, And like Eric Carmon and

5
00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,800
Speaker 3: the Raspberries, We're going all the way to nine o'clock.

6
00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,040
Speaker 3: It's Championship Saturday. In the world of college football, the

7
00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,720
Speaker 3: Bengals face the Bill's, an extremely important NFL game on Sunday.

8
00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:10,040
Speaker 3: The MLS Cup got decided today with Inner Miami knocking

9
00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,240
Speaker 3: off Vancouver three to one. College hoops breaking out all

10
00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,760
Speaker 3: over the land, with Iowa State giving it to Purdue

11
00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 3: at on the.

12
00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,479
Speaker 2: Boilers home court.

13
00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:30,560
Speaker 3: Lopsided loss for the Purdue boiler Makers. The twenty twenty

14
00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,280
Speaker 3: six World Cup drawl was Friday, with the US Men

15
00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,959
Speaker 3: landing in Group D with a first round match against

16
00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,120
Speaker 3: Paraguay in Los Angeles next June. And oh yeah, the

17
00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,360
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds are being mentioned in the running for Philadelphia

18
00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,440
Speaker 3: Phillies free agent designated hitter and Middletown native Kyle Schwarber.

19
00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,720
Speaker 3: But I want to start tonight with what happened last

20
00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,360
Speaker 3: night at Sintas Center in the Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout,

21
00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,080
Speaker 3: not the Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown, as mentioned on the

22
00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,720
Speaker 3: TNT broadcast and the final as we all know Xavier

23
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,440
Speaker 3: seventy nine, U see seventy four and really, folks, it's

24
00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,640
Speaker 3: like I'm strapped in a chair in a dark room

25
00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,920
Speaker 3: with a flashlight shining in my eyes, and I've just

26
00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,880
Speaker 3: been injected with truth serum. And the truth is Xavier

27
00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,480
Speaker 3: owns Cincinnati, the Musketeers own the bear Cats, and Trey

28
00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,480
Speaker 3: Carrol deserves the key to the Queen City. You talk

29
00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:46,720
Speaker 3: about an overnight sensation. Carol just endeared himself to Xavier

30
00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,400
Speaker 3: fans everywhere, embedded himself in Musketeer lore for the rest

31
00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,919
Speaker 3: of his life. The musky six foot eight two and

32
00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,080
Speaker 3: thirty five pounds forward, also known as Aquaman because of

33
00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,760
Speaker 3: the length of his frame and his long, flowing locks

34
00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:13,320
Speaker 3: that cascade halfway down his back, was unstoppable thirty points,

35
00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 3: seven rebounds and assist, a block, a steal, a three pointer.

36
00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,360
Speaker 3: He was everywhere fourteen of twenty three from the floor,

37
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,240
Speaker 3: making shots from the baseline in the paint with his

38
00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:34,480
Speaker 3: left hand and his right hand. You see, cannot shoot

39
00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,520
Speaker 3: the ball with any kind of consistency. The Bearcats are

40
00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,280
Speaker 3: known more for their defense, but the Bearcats couldn't stop

41
00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,520
Speaker 3: Trey Carroll or containing as u See suffered its eleven

42
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,920
Speaker 3: straight loss at Sentas Center, and head coach Wes Miller

43
00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 3: lost to his third Xavior.

44
00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:56,880
Speaker 2: Coach.

45
00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,200
Speaker 3: Savior fans are with delight. They're laughing at their crosstown rival.

46
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,800
Speaker 3: UC fans, meanwhile, are angry and have every right to be.

47
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,200
Speaker 2: What a scene last night.

48
00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,440
Speaker 3: This is the place to fence right here, seven hundred WLW.

49
00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,520
Speaker 3: I want to hear from Xavier fans. I want to

50
00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,080
Speaker 3: hear from UC fans because I've got my coffee, I've

51
00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,559
Speaker 3: got my computer. All I need is you At five one, three, seven,

52
00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,240
Speaker 3: four nine, seven thousand and one, eight hundred the Big One.

53
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,720
Speaker 3: The place was going crazy, and I loved Xavier coach

54
00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:46,479
Speaker 3: Richard Patino afterward the interview with TNT, he called the

55
00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:52,560
Speaker 3: Sintas Center crowd amazing. This is why I wanted to

56
00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,159
Speaker 3: come to Xavier, Patino said, because it's one of the

57
00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,920
Speaker 3: best fan bases and one of the best home courts

58
00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:08,479
Speaker 3: in all of college basketball. That's Xavier. Whatever happened to UC,

59
00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,640
Speaker 3: I knew Xavier would win this game. The Musketeers are

60
00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,880
Speaker 3: more poised, more aggressive, and the more complete team. From

61
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,200
Speaker 3: our very own Lance McAllister, host of Sports Talk on

62
00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:34,359
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW Richard Patino has done more in three

63
00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:40,200
Speaker 3: weeks to tweak, reinvent, and improve Xavier than Wes Miller

64
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,000
Speaker 3: has done with the Bearcats in four plus years and

65
00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,279
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty games. And even Bearcat legend Nicky

66
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,200
Speaker 3: Van Exel chimes in to say I am disappointed would

67
00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,240
Speaker 3: be an understatement. You see, x is a big rivalry

68
00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,640
Speaker 3: game and it should be treated as such. One team

69
00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:10,560
Speaker 3: played like it and the other didn't. Held disappointing for

70
00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:17,800
Speaker 3: UC fans and the alumni. Unbelievable five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven,

71
00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,080
Speaker 3: eight hundred, the big one at halftime. I mean, I'm

72
00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,760
Speaker 3: watching the first half, and even the guys in the

73
00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,400
Speaker 3: TNT studio Chris Weber and Jalen Rose said, you see,

74
00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:37,719
Speaker 3: take it inside, use your height instead of passing the

75
00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 3: ball around the perimeter for twenty five seconds and then

76
00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:47,520
Speaker 3: hurling up a three. You see did come back from

77
00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,640
Speaker 3: thirteen down to make a close at the end, but

78
00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,520
Speaker 3: you have to be able to close, and that's what

79
00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,040
Speaker 3: the Xavier Musketeers did.

80
00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,640
Speaker 2: Behind Trey Carroll.

81
00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,640
Speaker 3: The Aqua man, And how cool was his interview after

82
00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,040
Speaker 3: the game.

83
00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,720
Speaker 2: He points across the court.

84
00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,880
Speaker 3: To his family, to his wife and said, yeah, we're

85
00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,119
Speaker 3: gonna go get some dinner. He said, I'm gonna drink

86
00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,640
Speaker 3: some minute made pink lemonade and maybe have a slice

87
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:24,640
Speaker 3: of pizza. Talk about enduring yourself to a fan base.

88
00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,000
Speaker 3: That's what Trey Carroll did last night. We're not messing around.

89
00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm riding this pony till it drops. Let's go out

90
00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,640
Speaker 3: to the phones. Bryce's in Cincinnati.

91
00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,560
Speaker 4: I chicken, I just wanted to talk about the Big

92
00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,560
Speaker 4: twelve championship. I mean at the trophy ceremony, Jully McGuire said,

93
00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,120
Speaker 4: don't let the Red Raiders get hot. And they're entering

94
00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,240
Speaker 4: the college with my playoff with the fullhead of steam.

95
00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,480
Speaker 4: As they have won every single game this season by

96
00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,520
Speaker 4: twenty points or more.

97
00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400
Speaker 3: I would not want to play the Texas Tech Red

98
00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,320
Speaker 3: Raiders right now.

99
00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,320
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

100
00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,760
Speaker 3: The speed on both sides of the ball, the aggressiveness

101
00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,200
Speaker 3: on defense, just incredible.

102
00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Man.

103
00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,600
Speaker 3: They force four turnovers by BYU in the second half.

104
00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,360
Speaker 3: BYU didn't have a prayer and how about giving up

105
00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,160
Speaker 3: a chip shot field goal to go up by two?

106
00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,480
Speaker 3: Scores when it's thirteen to seven. Okay, the Red Raiders

107
00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:31,680
Speaker 3: gave that up and they wind up throwing an incomplete pass,

108
00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,880
Speaker 3: so they're back on defense. But they get an interception

109
00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,720
Speaker 3: and score a touchdown on the next two plays to

110
00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,720
Speaker 3: blow this thing wide open.

111
00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,200
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

112
00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,400
Speaker 3: You're right, Bryce, the Texas Tech Red Raiders look fantastic.

113
00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I just love the tenacity that Joey McGuire coaches with.

114
00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,880
Speaker 4: He just brings so much fire out of this Red

115
00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,440
Speaker 4: Raiders team.

116
00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,040
Speaker 5: They just want the ball.

117
00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,880
Speaker 4: They just want to force a fumble or get an

118
00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,560
Speaker 4: interception every single no matter what, no matter what situation

119
00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,200
Speaker 4: or whatever. And the defensive performance today by Texas Tech

120
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,720
Speaker 4: shows exactly why this recruiting staff for Texas Tech focused

121
00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,840
Speaker 4: so much on that front. Seven two forced bubbles and

122
00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,800
Speaker 4: that linebacker Brian Roberts also got two interceptions to one

123
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,559
Speaker 4: player of the game. So just absolutely amazing play by

124
00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,480
Speaker 4: Texas Tech today against BYU.

125
00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:19,720
Speaker 3: Get.

126
00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,880
Speaker 4: It's hard to beat a team twice in a row

127
00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,080
Speaker 4: in a season because that losing team has a plan,

128
00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,160
Speaker 4: They understand the mistakes they made and they want to

129
00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,120
Speaker 4: go out and get their revenge. So BYU was playing

130
00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,959
Speaker 4: with hate, but Texas Tech stood their ground and won

131
00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,120
Speaker 4: in convincing fashion.

132
00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,559
Speaker 3: The final was thirty four to seven, twenty one unanswered

133
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,560
Speaker 3: points to the second half. A very impressive performance by

134
00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,920
Speaker 3: Texas Tech and they deserve to be one of the

135
00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,280
Speaker 3: get one of the buys, one of the four buys

136
00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,920
Speaker 3: in the twelve team college football playoff. Bryce, I appreciate

137
00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,600
Speaker 3: the call man, Thank you, thank you.

138
00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 4: You have a great rescue for your weekend chicks.

139
00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840
Speaker 3: All right, the rest of them, all right, Bryce, appreciate you.

140
00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,319
Speaker 3: Nick is on the east side, Nick.

141
00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,640
Speaker 6: Can cow are you doing tonight?

142
00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:05,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

143
00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,360
Speaker 3: We're hanging in there. My head is swimming. Just spent

144
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,280
Speaker 3: all day with the remote in my hands. You're watching

145
00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:18,080
Speaker 3: college football, high school football, college basketball. I'm going crazy here, Nick.

146
00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,480
Speaker 3: But last night, I mean I came on glued watching

147
00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,680
Speaker 3: that game the Crosstown shut.

148
00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,199
Speaker 6: Yeah. I attended the game. My wife's a barricade. I've

149
00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,480
Speaker 6: got a daughter who's a barricad, so I was kind

150
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 6: of rooting for them. I don't really care much for

151
00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,360
Speaker 6: each team. I think they're both bad basketball teams. It's

152
00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,160
Speaker 6: some of the worst free throughly shooting I've ever witnessed.

153
00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,719
Speaker 7: In my life.

154
00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,439
Speaker 6: Was the difference. Yeah, yeah, the game has lost. It's

155
00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,760
Speaker 6: lost there though, checking that the Xavier fans that they're

156
00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,760
Speaker 6: tough to watch.

157
00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,480
Speaker 8: I don't know.

158
00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,120
Speaker 6: The Cintas centered is tired. The game has lost it.

159
00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,160
Speaker 6: I'm going home to watch some college football. I can't

160
00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,240
Speaker 6: watch basketball until March.

161
00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't blame you, Nick, uh. I want to

162
00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,800
Speaker 3: fall in love with college basketball again. I'm not there yet.

163
00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,240
Speaker 3: I don't know any of these players. I'm getting to

164
00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,120
Speaker 3: know Trey Carroll, that's for sure. Uh oh yeah, totally

165
00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,959
Speaker 3: new rosters. It's just crazy. How how do we endear

166
00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,480
Speaker 3: ourselves to certain players when they come in for one year.

167
00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,640
Speaker 6: It's very tough. I used to know, you know, both

168
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,160
Speaker 6: rosters when the game back when the game was great,

169
00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,559
Speaker 6: even just you know, four or five years ago. But

170
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,199
Speaker 6: since Twast has come in, it's kind of lost a fluster,

171
00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,960
Speaker 6: you see, probably needs a make over. But it's all

172
00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,560
Speaker 6: about college football. It's all about Joe Burrow. Tomorrow, we're

173
00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,559
Speaker 6: gonna crawl back.

174
00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,040
Speaker 7: Into this thing.

175
00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, I like that.

176
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,120
Speaker 3: I like that. I expect a Bengals victory. Yes, sir,

177
00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,520
Speaker 3: all right, Nick, appreciate you all right, Sick, Thanks so much, Mike,

178
00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,240
Speaker 3: is in Campbell County wants to talk cross town shootout.

179
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,000
Speaker 9: Mike, how are you? And I my man fan call

180
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:03,920
Speaker 9: your show?

181
00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,240
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks so much for calling. Welcome to seven hundred WLW.

182
00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,440
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna give you heads up. I'm a I'm

183
00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,960
Speaker 9: a Louisville fan, but yeah, I rude for Xavier, I

184
00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,480
Speaker 9: rude for UC, and I agree with what you just

185
00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,840
Speaker 9: said a couple of minutes ago about Richard Patino has

186
00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:31,000
Speaker 9: changed that team around and Wes Miller is not. And

187
00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,680
Speaker 9: that's really I hate to see that for UC. To

188
00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,280
Speaker 9: be honest with you, Oh.

189
00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up a UC fan.

190
00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,240
Speaker 3: I love both universities, but man, I was I was

191
00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,040
Speaker 3: born in nineteen fifty four and UC wins back to

192
00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,080
Speaker 3: back national championships in nineteen sixty one, in nineteen sixty

193
00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,280
Speaker 3: two after Oscar Robertson left.

194
00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, the only other comment I just started listening,

195
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,960
Speaker 9: And I believe you're a big UK fan If I'm.

196
00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,960
Speaker 3: Not, not me, not me, But gosh, what is going

197
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,760
Speaker 3: on with University of Kentucky.

198
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,160
Speaker 2: This is embarrassing. This is embarrassing.

199
00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,440
Speaker 3: Oh, man, Mark Pope came in with guns blazing, and man,

200
00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,000
Speaker 3: he might go out with a whimper. This is brutal.

201
00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,560
Speaker 3: They're getting blown out. Yeah, they're getting blown out. But

202
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,960
Speaker 3: about Louisville Man, the Louisville UC rivalry, Oh my gosh,

203
00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,160
Speaker 3: it was awesome to see it come back for one game.

204
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,280
Speaker 2: That's what I grew up with.

205
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,840
Speaker 3: The Missouri Valley Conference in Louisville wins today eighty seven

206
00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,760
Speaker 3: to seventy eight at home over the Indiana Hoosiers.

207
00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, they do have a good team. But I'm just

208
00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,720
Speaker 9: making a point. I'm a UC fan and a Xavier fan. Yeah,

209
00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,760
Speaker 9: so I'm not other than that. I'd just like to

210
00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,680
Speaker 9: see him both win.

211
00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,600
Speaker 2: Amen. I want to see him good to get back

212
00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 2: to the NCAA tournament.

213
00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,400
Speaker 9: You're exactly right, But.

214
00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,480
Speaker 2: Right now Xavier is leading.

215
00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Richard Patinos done a whale of a job,

216
00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,959
Speaker 3: and like he said last night after the game, we're

217
00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,439
Speaker 3: getting a lot better every game. He loves the team's attitude,

218
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,040
Speaker 3: he loves the way they practice, and he says we're

219
00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,880
Speaker 3: growing and getting better. And of course they couldn't have

220
00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,280
Speaker 3: won last night without the aquaman, Trey Carroll.

221
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,680
Speaker 9: Yeah exactly, all right, thank you for taking my call.

222
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,080
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much.

223
00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,280
Speaker 3: And before we go to break, Let's go up to

224
00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:41,640
Speaker 3: the gym city and welcome in. Richard, Richard, what's happening.

225
00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,080
Speaker 6: That's happening.

226
00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,600
Speaker 10: You know what's happening. Everything another hour away till we

227
00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920
Speaker 10: become the net. I'm thinking we're going to become national

228
00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,160
Speaker 10: championship with Ohio State.

229
00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,520
Speaker 2: Buddy, Well, there's a lot.

230
00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot on the line tonight when Ohio State

231
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,960
Speaker 3: faces the Indiana Hoosiers number one versus number two. You've

232
00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,880
Speaker 3: got the Big Ten championship on the line. You've got seeds,

233
00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,440
Speaker 3: the top four seeds who get buys in the twelve

234
00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,600
Speaker 3: team playoff, and then it's the Heisman Trophy race.

235
00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,120
Speaker 2: Yes, with both quarterbacks in the mix, yep.

236
00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,680
Speaker 10: And you know tomorrow, I'm like you, he owns, he

237
00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,320
Speaker 10: owns Buffalo. I think the offense with Joe Burrow, maybe

238
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,320
Speaker 10: the chase they're gonna They're not gonna stop them tomorrow.

239
00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,760
Speaker 10: I do predict the Bengals to win that game by

240
00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,360
Speaker 10: three or four points. I do, I really do.

241
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,960
Speaker 3: I'll take it by one point, Dick and Hey appreciate it.

242
00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,960
Speaker 3: The Bengals do get good news that mister Higgins t

243
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,600
Speaker 3: has cleared per push pro Gosh concussion protocol and we'll

244
00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:02,720
Speaker 3: play tomorrow. That is great news. Wow, phone lines were

245
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:09,040
Speaker 3: wide open. We'll talk some Bengals coming up here? U

246
00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,760
Speaker 3: see Xavier? Where does U see go from here? Devastating

247
00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:20,720
Speaker 3: loss eleventh straight. I got a tweet today, Please extend

248
00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,520
Speaker 3: Wes Wooden. I mean talk about a backslap across the

249
00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,840
Speaker 3: face that that is nasty. You are listening to Sports

250
00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,920
Speaker 3: Talk with your host Chick Ludwig and tonight's producer Sean McMahon,

251
00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,320
Speaker 3: fellow elder grad till nine o'clock on the Home of

252
00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:49,280
Speaker 3: the Reds and the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW

253
00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,800
Speaker 3: six in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, seven

254
00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,600
Speaker 3: hundred WLW Sports.

255
00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,800
Speaker 2: Talk until nine o'clock tonight.

256
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,320
Speaker 3: Wow, a great data be on the couch with the

257
00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,200
Speaker 3: remote college basketball, college football man.

258
00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,840
Speaker 2: It's championship Saturday.

259
00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,400
Speaker 3: The Alabama Crimson Tide trails the Georgia Bulldogs in the

260
00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:18,359
Speaker 3: SEC Championship game twenty one to nothing. And Texas Tech

261
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,240
Speaker 3: wins the Big twelve all over BYU today thirty four

262
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 3: to seven. And we're eagerly awaiting the ACC Championship game

263
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,639
Speaker 3: Virginia against Duke eight o'clock on ABC, and of course,

264
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,040
Speaker 3: the Ohio State Buckeyes against Indiana Buckeyes number one Hoosiers

265
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 3: number two for the Big Ten Championship, the fight for

266
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:49,520
Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy, and the seating in the twelve team

267
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:55,959
Speaker 3: college football Playoff. Let's go out to the phones, Kevin

268
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,359
Speaker 3: and Columbus, our good friend waiting a while.

269
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm hey, Yeah, I'm a nervous wreck and I'm

270
00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,040
Speaker 11: trying to listen to you.

271
00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,440
Speaker 7: But the game's coming on. You still be on the air.

272
00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 11: That must be tough on you keeping a half an

273
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,880
Speaker 11: eye on that and still doing your show.

274
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

275
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got some big screen, we got some big

276
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,640
Speaker 3: screen TVs here, and I've got Georgia on one and yeah, well,

277
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,399
Speaker 3: oh it's it's awesome.

278
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 11: I was impressed last week that the way that game

279
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,040
Speaker 11: started out. You know how many Michigan games we've been

280
00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,200
Speaker 11: through were undefeated and then everything goes wrong, and it

281
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,360
Speaker 11: started out that way.

282
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,480
Speaker 7: I oh, no, no, no.

283
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,960
Speaker 5: Hey, they got it together.

284
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 11: Hey they're gonna win tonight.

285
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,160
Speaker 2: I believe they will.

286
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,879
Speaker 11: I know much about Indiana, but I'll be watching. I'm

287
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 11: trying to keep watching, listening to you till that, and

288
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,440
Speaker 11: but it's tough.

289
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:48,760
Speaker 7: Hey.

290
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,399
Speaker 11: One other thing, I just want to say, Well, the

291
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 11: Kyle Schwarber thing, I think we need to get. You

292
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 11: need to get somebody like you and Frank COONa, maybe

293
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,400
Speaker 11: Seg Dennison and jd Vance talked to him. It's got

294
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,520
Speaker 11: to be his boyhood dream. He must have dreamed of

295
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 11: playing for the Reds as a kid.

296
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 2: Right, no doubt, no doubt.

297
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,560
Speaker 3: And I know a whole bunch I know a whole

298
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 3: bunch of Kyle's friends in Middletown, and I know they're

299
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 3: working on him.

300
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

301
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 11: Hey, Hey, like with Ken Griffy Junior who wanted to play.

302
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 2: Here, yep, hey, I was.

303
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 3: I was there that night in the Crosley room when

304
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 3: Ken Griffy Junior was introduced and unforgettable, and it will

305
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: be something similar if and when that happens with Kyle Schwarber.

306
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, somehow make it happen. Hey, That's all I got. Hey,

307
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 11: enjoy your games and I hope they win so much.

308
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 3: All right, I'm right there with you, Keviny Columbus, appreciate you.

309
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 3: All right, Let's go up to the great state of Michigan.

310
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 3: Our good friend Craig Hey, Greg what's going on?

311
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 7: Hey, it's been a while, mister positive.

312
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying, brother, I gotta ask you, Oh my god,

313
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: I gotta try.

314
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 7: I gotta ask you. How do you think the NFC

315
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 7: nerd is going to shape out? Oh?

316
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 2: Man?

317
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 3: The Bengals launched the career of one Caleb Williams. Oh

318
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 3: my gosh. Well, the Bears and the Packers only three losses.

319
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: The Lions are eight and five two games back, a

320
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 3: very positive sign that they destroyed the Dallas Cowboys.

321
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can win it.

322
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: I want them to get into the playoffs and then

323
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 3: anything can happen with the Lions getting back to what

324
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: they do the best man run the football man. That's

325
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,200
Speaker 3: an awesome ground game. And then Jared Goff's got a

326
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 3: step forward, and yeah, stop this ridiculousness and go out

327
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: and punish people.

328
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 7: There you go, there you go. Hey, if I don't

329
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 7: speak kid before Christmas, have a beautiful Christmas, my friend.

330
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

331
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 3: We'll be back on these airwaves filling in for the

332
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: immortal Lance McAllister on Tuesday Night. Can't wait, man, appreciate it,

333
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: Doug Greg As always, We've got Pat in Blue Ash.

334
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 2: Hey, Pat, how are you chick fantastic? What's going on?

335
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 12: Why I was calling about the shootout?

336
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 13: I was not at the game.

337
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 12: I gave my tickets to my daughter and son in law.

338
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 12: But I will tell you I saw Xavier because I'm

339
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 12: a season ticket holder.

340
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 7: A month ago. They looked like.

341
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 12: The worst college basketball team I had ever seen. They

342
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 12: couldn't play defense, they couldn't score. And I watched UC

343
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 12: B Dayton, and while I didn't think, uh, that was

344
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 12: particularly UC's best game, Dayton's a good team, and I thought, well,

345
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 12: maybe they're on their way. But I'll tell you what

346
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 12: you know. I call him less Miller because he seems

347
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 12: to get less out of his team than he should.

348
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 12: He is just like Ciderfield, and I've got degrees from

349
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 12: both schools.

350
00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 6: They are nice guys.

351
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 12: They recruit well.

352
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 13: I don't think they hold.

353
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 12: Their teams the high enough standards. Their teams don't get

354
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 12: better as the year progresses, and they don't make in

355
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 12: game decisions that change the outcome of the game.

356
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: Man.

357
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 3: Even the TNT announcers in studio, they were be fuddled

358
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: by UC's half court offense in the first half.

359
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: There what is going on?

360
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: Passing the ball around the perimeter and then launching threes.

361
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: I was always taught you go inside and then out,

362
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 3: not the opposite way.

363
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 12: Oh, that's exactly right.

364
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 10: I mean Tray Carroll.

365
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 12: I thought he played a phenomenal game.

366
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 13: But let's face it, he's not that athletic.

367
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 12: He can badly jump over a credit card and you see,

368
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 12: is much bigger, much more athletic.

369
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 13: And did they double team him more than once? It

370
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 13: was embarrassing.

371
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: It was it was very embarrassing. And oh.

372
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: One of the quotes after the game from West Miller,

373
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: oh we haven't worked on the double team enough in

374
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: the post and I'm there, Oh, oh god.

375
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 12: That's that's the same. That's the same excuse he gave

376
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 12: when they when they lost to Eastern Michigan.

377
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 13: He said, well, we had.

378
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 12: Never played in practice with that combination of players, so we.

379
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 6: Didn't know what to do. And when Day.

380
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 12: Day Thomas and Gisel James you were on the team together. Uh,

381
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 12: and they never played together? He said, well, we never

382
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 12: practiced having them play together. I mean, you know, at

383
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 12: some point you have to take a flyer. You have

384
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 12: to trust your guys and know that they're going to

385
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 12: figure it out, because they have to figure it out.

386
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: It was Uh, it wasn't that close to five point game.

387
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 3: It just wasn't now much more poised coming down the

388
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: stretch and closing the deal.

389
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: And you see just their offenses a panic.

390
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: It just and I see five guys instead of a team.

391
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: I see you sees five guys on the floor attempting

392
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: to attempting to make a case for their pro careers

393
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: like auditions. Uh, I just see five individuals instead of

394
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: a team.

395
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, you're right, you know, you know, chick.

396
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 12: When I used to coach basketball, and I coached for

397
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 12: twenty seven seasons, just just the youth basketball, I used

398
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 12: to tell them, do you want to if you were

399
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 12: in a fight, do you want to slap somebody? Or

400
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 12: do you want to punch somebody? Yeah, because if you're slapping,

401
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 12: it's five fingers working independently. If it's a punch, it's

402
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 12: all of you working together. And that's exactly what you see.

403
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 12: Does they slap people instead of punching them?

404
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: Amen to that? And uh, Mark or Pat really appreciate it.

405
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 7: Man, thank you, thank you.

406
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: All right, We've got Mark and Hamilton.

407
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 14: Mark, Hi, Hi, Jake, Yes, sir, Yeah, the game tonight,

408
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 14: the big ten Championship game. I you know, of course

409
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 14: I'm rooting for a Hall of State and I'm want

410
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 14: Ohio State to win. And uh, but it's number one

411
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 14: against number two. If either team loses, I don't think either.

412
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 15: One of them is going to get out of that

413
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 15: top four bye week situation in which they are going

414
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 15: for the national championship.

415
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: You know.

416
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the way.

417
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: When I saw the bracket and I've got and they

418
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: had Ohio State with the bye and then possibly playing

419
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: in the Rose Bowl, I'm there, oh man, I just

420
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm in a dream state.

421
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm in love if that could happen.

422
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 15: But yeah, I'm I want Ohio State to win, but uh,

423
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 15: you know, the bigger goal is the national champions.

424
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 7: Yes, so that's all I got, chick.

425
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: All right, and I appreciate it, Mark, And uh, I

426
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: was just pleased at my alma mater, the Ohio State

427
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 3: University beat Michigan.

428
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: Yes.

429
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: Oh, but tonight man Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback of IU

430
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: against Julian saying two quality quarterbacks.

431
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: Awesome.

432
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: A how about Jack wants to talk across town shootout?

433
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, he said, Jack?

434
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, Jack, what's going on?

435
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 8: Yeah? When you touched on a big a very important

436
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 8: part of my point that I want to make when

437
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 8: you said, uh, you know playing the game basketball is

438
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 8: inside out. Yes, that's that's part of basic fundamental basketball.

439
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: Yes, did we see that last night? Did we see

440
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: that from U see last night?

441
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 8: We haven't seen it in three years.

442
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 9: Uh.

443
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 8: And I don't have anything against mister Miller. I'm sure

444
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 8: he's a good guy and everything. But the thing that

445
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 8: really stands out with what happens with the UC Bearcap

446
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 8: basketball team, they are not working on fundamentals. I mean,

447
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 8: look at the foul shooting. Foul shooting is part of

448
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 8: your fundamentals. Brutal, They don't they don't box out, Yeah.

449
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: Eleven of twenty two, Yeah, eleven of twenty two.

450
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 8: It's just yeah, that's just part of fundamentals. You can't

451
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 8: make a fact that's you stayed after practice until you

452
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 8: can make seven or eight out of ten.

453
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 13: You know.

454
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 8: But uh, that's what they're lacking. And it's a shame

455
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 8: because they they're good athletes, and I know they want

456
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 8: to win. You know, I'm anna, I'm a bear catalum,

457
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 8: and uh, you know I'm used to like you said,

458
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 8: you know, you know, good old fashioned Cincinnati Bears cap

459
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 8: basketball and that's not what we're getting. But uh, that's

460
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 8: you made part of my point. It's just basic fundamentals.

461
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 8: But they're they're not getting that, they're not being taught,

462
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 8: that they're not being they're not being practiced with their fundamentals.

463
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 3: Totally agree, Jack, and Uh, hey appreciate the call.

464
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: Thank you.

465
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: All right, And before we go to the top of

466
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: the hour break, I want to bring in our producer

467
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Sean McMahon, fellow elder grad with the Chickster Chicks, and

468
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: he a uc alam and your take on last night.

469
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Sean, I know you're disappointed.

470
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, disappointed, unfortunately, not surprised. Yeah, because I mean with Xavier,

471
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 16: they always show up. They always I got to give

472
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 16: credit where credit is due to that program. It never

473
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 16: matters who the head coach is. It doesn't matter who's

474
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 16: on the floor for Xavier, it doesn't matter who's on

475
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 16: the floor for U. See, Xavier always shows up in

476
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 16: that game, and I got to give him a lot

477
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 16: of credit. For months, chick I've kind of just assumed

478
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 16: that they were probably going to drop this one for

479
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 16: the simple fact that it was at the Centas Center.

480
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been that way since two thousand and one.

481
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 16: It's it's a it is a bitter piece of information

482
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 16: to swallow if you're a UC fan that for twenty

483
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 16: four years, Xavier has one, or I guess it would

484
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 16: be twenty two years now, because twenty four years ago

485
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 16: is the last time you see one. Yeah, eleven straight,

486
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 16: eleven straight, and that's that's tough to swallow.

487
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: And we talked off the air sean only one player

488
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: on both teams has played in this rivalry.

489
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: Yep, that's Dade Thomas.

490
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 16: For those wondering, it's an incredible statistic. If you would

491
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 16: have told me that ten years ago, I really don't

492
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 16: know what I would have made with that information, because

493
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 16: that just didn't seem it wasn't feasible at the time.

494
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 16: Now it is because I think you brought up this

495
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 16: point earlier, Chick. The way that teams are constructed nowadays,

496
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 16: it feels like it's a lot it's just a bunch

497
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 16: of mercenaries.

498
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't like that.

499
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 16: I'm used to with football teams, basketball teams. I'm used

500
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 16: to kind of watching these guys grow and develop into

501
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 16: an identity. And we saw that with Luke fickle with

502
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 16: the football team, and we haven't seen that with UC

503
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 16: basketball in a while. You know, the last team that

504
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 16: I can remember that was like that, I guess was

505
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 16: the twenty nineteen squad.

506
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: That was when Jared Cumberland was still on the team.

507
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 16: After that and you know, Wes Miller and John and

508
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 16: John Brannan and all that stuff, the program has been

509
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 16: kind of on life support. But the game last night, specifically, though,

510
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 16: getting back to that, it was it was tough because.

511
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 2: I kind of knew how it was gonna go.

512
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 16: It's funny how it seems like every time it's at

513
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 16: the Sintas Center, UC plays the same game. They heave

514
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 16: up a bunch of threes they shouldn't be taken. They

515
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 16: shouldn't be taking. They miss a lot of them. Their

516
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 16: free throw shooting is atrocious historically, it just is.

517
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: And there's one guy that murders them, and.

518
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 16: There's one guy that kills him, and that was Trey Carroll,

519
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 16: and he was one of the guys I was at.

520
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 16: I was out at the bar last night drinking with

521
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 16: some friends and I was telling him, Hey, there's like

522
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 16: four guys for Xavier.

523
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: You've got a limit.

524
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 16: That's bor Vichenen, Malisseovich Anderson the third and Trey Carroll.

525
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: Those are the four.

526
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 16: Guys you gotta maybe not shut down because shutting down

527
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 16: four dudes is a lot harder to harder then did it?

528
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 7: You know?

529
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: Then you'd like to admit.

530
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 16: But they let one of those guys go off and

531
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 16: he was a huge difference in the game.

532
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: And the two guys I can't pronounce their last names,

533
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: they hit big threes.

534
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they hit some big shots.

535
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, Melisavichen Borovichnen I think or their o their names. Yeah, yeah,

536
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 16: that's that's the thing about Xavier. I will say this,

537
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 16: you look at the box score. I think the biggest

538
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 16: thing that I was saying, you see needed to do

539
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 16: defensively to shut down Xavier was shut down Xavier's three

540
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 16: point shooting. If you look at the box score, Xavier

541
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 16: was six six of twenty eight from the three point line.

542
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you.

543
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 16: See did a pretty good job of stopping the three

544
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 16: point shot or at least making Xavier miss them. So

545
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 16: they got lucky there. But you see themselves wasn't much better.

546
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 16: They were eleven of thirty three from the three point line.

547
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 16: But yeah, man, it's it's the free throw shooting that

548
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 16: gets them every single time. And it's one of those

549
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 16: things fundamentally that I don't understand how you're not practicing

550
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 16: that day in day out. It's it's called the charity

551
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 16: stripe for reason. You got to make those shots. Those

552
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 16: are free points. You got to take them when you

553
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 16: can get them, especially in a rivalry like that, and

554
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 16: in a series that's been dominated by Xavier since the

555
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 16: turn of the century and has been dominated since they

556
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 16: opened Zinta Center.

557
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: Yes, uh UC shoots thirty eight percent from the floor,

558
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: twenty six of sixty nine, thirty three percent from three,

559
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: and fifty percent at the line. Yeah, Xavier forty seven

560
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: percent from the floor, and yeah, they were only twenty

561
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: one percent six of twenty eight and only fifty seven

562
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: percent from the foul line, so they were only thirteen

563
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: of twenty three.

564
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: But that all goes away when you win. Yeah, yeah,

565
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: and with a thirty point performance by Trey Carroll.

566
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 16: Right, And I got to get credit to Xavier. You know,

567
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 16: they're in a new tenure with with Rick Patina or

568
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 16: I'm sorry now Rick Patino, Richard Patino, And they came

569
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 16: out and they played hard and they played well. Yeah,

570
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 16: you can't not give that team credit for how they've

571
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 16: how they played last night. Yeah, they've won four in

572
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 16: a row, five out. They lost to Santa Clara and

573
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 16: Iowa both by nineteen. We lose by one to Georgia,

574
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 16: and then they've won four in a row. So he's right,

575
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 16: they're getting better every game.

576
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Yep. And what can you say other than give him credit? Now,

577
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: I'll make this real quick, but.

578
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 16: I think you were bringing up Wes Miller and Aolance

579
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 16: talks about Wes Miller all the time. He's losing faith

580
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 16: even quicker with the fan base now, and he's got

581
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 16: to get a lot done. He has to make the

582
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 16: tournament this year. You can't come to this program year

583
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 16: five and not make the tournament. And he's lost to

584
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 16: three different head coaches at Xavier. It's just there's he

585
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 16: doesn't have a lot going for him right now. So

586
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 16: he's got to make up ground quickly.

587
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 3: Hey, when we come back after the top of the

588
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: hour news, we're going to welcome in. Jake Ballard retired

589
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: tight end in the NFL. Played at Springboro High School,

590
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 3: played at the Ohio State University. Caught a couple of

591
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: touchdown passes and helped the New York Football Giants beat

592
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: New England in Super Bowl forty six. He lives in Columbus.

593
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: Now we'll get his take on the Indiana Ohio state

594
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: matchup and talk.

595
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: A little bit about his career when we return.

596
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: It's the home of the best Bengals coverage and the

597
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: home of the Reds. News Radio seven hundred wlw B

598
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: seven eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig,

599
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 3: seven hundred w l W this is sports talk, And

600
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: like Eric Carmon and the Raspberries, we're going all the

601
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: way to nine o'clock and that's when Donnade takes over

602
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: these airwaves.

603
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: And I always enjoy catching up with famous.

604
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: Athletes, local athletes, and we've got one right now. Let's

605
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: go out to Columbus, where I went to school with

606
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: fifty thousand of my closest friends, and welcome in retired

607
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: tight end Jake Ballard.

608
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Jake, how are you tonight?

609
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 7: I'm good. I'm doing good. Chick, how you doing? Man?

610
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic Springboro High School, home of the Panthers, the

611
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State University, home of the Buckeyes, and then a

612
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: career in the National Football League that includes a Super

613
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: Bowl ring. First things first, Jake, how sweet was it

614
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: to finally beat the Michigan Wolverines.

615
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 7: Well, it was pretty awesome watching them.

616
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 5: The Bucks take care of business, completely dominate the game

617
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 5: from beginning to end. And you know, as a guy

618
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: who never lost to Michigan, these last four years have

619
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: been tough, even living in Central Ohio. The Michigan fans

620
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 5: that came out of the closets and he couldn't really

621
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 5: say anything.

622
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 7: But now this year, at the tides of turns.

623
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it's only a charm.

624
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: But the gold Pants, Oh what I would give to

625
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: get a gold Pants charm.

626
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they're definitely pretty special. My you know,

627
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: tradition is that the players, once you get them, usually

628
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 5: moms hold on of those pretty tight. So my mom, actually,

629
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 5: you know, I haven't played my freshman year. I hog

630
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: to State with two thousand and six, and my mom.

631
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 7: Just gave both of all four of mine to.

632
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: My wife about a year or two ago, so she

633
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: was hold on to him for a while.

634
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: Oh man, awesome, that's fantastic, Josh never lost to Michigan. Incredible.

635
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: How about tonight, Jake? Really, both teams number one and

636
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: number two. It doesn't happen often, man, in a venue

637
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: like Lucas Oil Stadium.

638
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: Man, it doesn't get any bigger than this.

639
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: But so much is on the line tonight with Ohio

640
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: State and Indiana number one versus number two, the Big

641
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: Ten Championship, the you know, the seedings in the twelve

642
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: team college football playoff, and then the Heisman Trophy race

643
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: with a Julian Sayan and Fernando Mendoza Man, two great quarterbacks.

644
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot on the line tonight, two great teams.

645
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: You know, arguably neither one is faced an opponent like

646
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: the other. I might be a little biased, but you know,

647
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 5: I think Indiana is a good team. I don't think

648
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: they faced a defense like ours, number one defense in

649
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: the country, not even letting guys get over average ten

650
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: points a game. So at the end of the day,

651
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: I guess I just don't know if Indiana can score

652
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 5: more points than our offense versus our defense. And like

653
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: you said, it's he's been. Whoever wins this game, it's

654
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 5: probably gonna Heisman two. And as far as you know

655
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: the playoff seeding goes, it really just depends on who

656
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: you talk to.

657
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 7: If if the game is closed.

658
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 5: It sounds like both we'll still be in the running

659
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 5: and get a first round by but we'll wait and

660
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 5: see how.

661
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 7: The how the game turns out well.

662
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: And when I said this earlier on the show that

663
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: you know, when I look at the the twelve team

664
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: playoff and I see Ohio State with the possibly you know,

665
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: a number one seed there and that the possibly get

666
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: to buy and then possibly play in the Rose Bowl.

667
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: I've been there twice.

668
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: It's the most incredible venue in all of college football,

669
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: one of the most iconic venues in all of sports.

670
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: And that would be special to go back to Pasadena.

671
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. I mean my last game Ohio State was

672
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl. We actually beat Oregon Ducks. And most

673
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 5: recently Ohio State played in the Rose Ball last.

674
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 7: Year and beat Oregon. And it would be it'd.

675
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: Be pretty special to see him go back there and

676
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 5: start this playoff run in.

677
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 7: The Rose Bowl.

678
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: God, can you relate to the fan how special that

679
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: was to take the field at the Rose Bowl. You know,

680
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: the shadows of the San Gabriel Mountains with the sky

681
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: turning pink blue, purple green. I mean, just it is

682
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 3: a spectacular setting.

683
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 5: It really is very surreal, and like you said, the

684
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 5: sun setting on the San Gabriel Mountains. You know, you

685
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 5: got jets flying overhead for the pregame, and it's just

686
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: in that weather, it is always perfect. The grass is

687
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 5: like a golf course, and you just there's so much

688
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: history there. So to be able to be there and

689
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 5: be a part of that game, and a couple of

690
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 5: days before that, you know, we do the Rose bul

691
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 5: Prade and all those things, and it just was super

692
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 5: special and I'm very blessed to be able to play

693
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 5: in that game.

694
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: And back at Ohio State, I've been told that coming

695
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: out of the tunnel at Ohio State, you are so

696
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: jack you feel like you could leap over ten foot

697
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: brick wall.

698
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: I mean waiting in the tunnel and then eventually when

699
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 5: they tell you to run out and you're running down

700
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 5: in front of one hundred and five six seven thousand people,

701
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 5: You're not going to jump over the wall. You might

702
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 5: run through it, but it is it is extremely special.

703
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 5: One of the loudest environments I've ever played in. And

704
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 5: I've played in the Mall. You know, I played in

705
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 5: Seattle in the NFL. I've played in Washington Huskies in

706
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 5: Michigan and Penn State and Texas and anything.

707
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 7: You can think of.

708
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: Ohio Stadium is a very tough place to play.

709
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: And running through a brick wall with snot bubbles, I'm sure.

710
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 7: Absolutely.

711
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Jacob your pro career, you're getting signed by

712
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: the New York Football Giants. Is an undrafted college free

713
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: agent following the twenty ten draft. What was that experience like?

714
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: And you know, fighting through some injuries here that very

715
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: first year and then finally getting on the field in

716
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: twenty eleven making an impact and then eventually man getting

717
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl ring with a twenty one to seventeen

718
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: victory over the New England Patriots at Lucas Oil Stadium

719
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: after the twenty eleven season.

720
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it was a dogfight.

721
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 5: I was undrafted, so you're coming in there fighting for

722
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 5: a spot like a lot of guys in the NFL

723
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 5: training camp.

724
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 7: And I was.

725
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 5: Fortunate enough to obviously play at Ohio State, where I

726
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 5: played against the NFL guys all the time, So I

727
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 5: guess the learning curve for me wasn't that great. But

728
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 5: I went there and did enough to you know, impress

729
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: the coaches, and I was up and down off the

730
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 5: practice squad and NAKI roster. My rookie year I started

731
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 5: tighting was Kevin Boss, who did really well in my

732
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 5: second year. It was the NFL lockout and didn't even

733
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 5: get to off season with the team. And I showed

734
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 5: up a camp and Kevin Boss is about to come back,

735
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 5: and I'll never forget this.

736
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 7: Our Titan coach walked in.

737
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: He said, well, Kevin was going to sign with us,

738
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 5: but the Oakland Raiders just doubled their offer and he's

739
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 5: signed with them. And he said, our starting Titans in

740
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: this room. We're not getting anyone else. And as soon

741
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: as I heard him say that, I never looked back.

742
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 7: I said, I'm going to earn the starting spot and

743
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 7: I took and run with it.

744
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: Beautiful And gosh, you've got to remember the November sixth,

745
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: twenty eleven game against the Patriots at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro, Massachusetts. Well, yeah,

746
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: a one yard touchdown catch, a twenty eight yard catch

747
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 3: on third and ten in the final minute, and that

748
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: was huge.

749
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a special game.

750
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: We actually ended up playing with the Patriots after the Giants,

751
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 5: but yeah, Tom always liked to bring up that game,

752
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: but we ended there about twenty I think they were

753
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 5: going for a twenty six or seven game home winning

754
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: streak and we ended that and that really kind of

755
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 5: lit us on fire for that Super Bowl run that

756
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 5: year and the next year when I was on the Patriots.

757
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 5: Tom Brady just incredible guy, but obviously incredible leader and competitor.

758
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 5: This guy's played in thousands, you know, thousands of football games,

759
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: and he still remembers little little things like that. I

760
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: would just be walking by the hallway and he'd be like, Jake,

761
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: if you think I forgot you catching that ball in

762
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 5: third and long, are catching the winning touchdown, You're forgetting

763
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: You're mistaken.

764
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 7: Oh, or you bring up something about us beating beating.

765
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Him in the Super Bowl, that is incredible.

766
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: And that game in Foxborough twenty one to seventeen in

767
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: favor of the Giants and handing the Patriots the second

768
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 3: straight loss for the first time since two thousand and nine,

769
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: twenty one consecutive victories at home and man, you stopped him.

770
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: And then the Super Bowl final score twenty one to

771
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: seventeen in favor of the Giants.

772
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: Yep, pretty pretty crazy how it all worked out. I mean,

773
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 5: the Patriots are town the team, but we got high

774
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 5: at the right moment and and took care of business.

775
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Yes, And do you still have your Super Bowl ring?

776
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely.

777
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: It kills me when I hear that guys sell them

778
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: or give them away or lose them. Man, that's got

779
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: to be in an awfully safe place for you.

780
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 7: A safe place, indeed pun intended. I don't.

781
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 5: I don't wear my sit in the safe of the house,

782
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: and I'll bring it out on special occasions if I

783
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 5: get dressed up or have any events that people want

784
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 5: to see them. But I have the rest of my

785
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: game ball the memorabilia kind of out in my basement

786
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: hung up, so it's nice to see those every once

787
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: in a while, too.

788
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 3: Jutiful, We're talking with Jake Ballard, retired NFL tight end

789
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: from Springboro High School the Ohio State University to New

790
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: York Football Giants. In a bittersweet day in that in

791
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl, Jake, because uh, you win the game,

792
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 3: but you got injured in that game and that, uh, man,

793
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: that really hit an impact on your on your future.

794
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, it definitely did.

795
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: I you know, I ended up blowing out my knee

796
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: with seven minutes to go in the game, a c

797
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: L meniscus and a microfracture, and it definitely turned the

798
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 5: tides of my life. But I always like to say,

799
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 5: you know, I would have met my wife or had

800
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: my son if I would have.

801
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 7: Never got hurt in that game.

802
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, and it hurt.

803
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 7: My knee.

804
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: Came back for a couple of years, but never really

805
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 5: was the same and ended up retiring with the Cardinals early.

806
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 7: And it could have it could have covered the worst time.

807
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 5: It was actually my contract year that year, so we

808
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 5: were going to sign an extension until I got hurt.

809
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 7: And you know, it is what it is.

810
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now.

811
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: The Giants wound up placing you on injured reserve and

812
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: then that off season, Wow, the New York or the

813
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: New England Patriots claim you off waivers. And isn't it

814
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: kind of a gentleman's agreement, you know, an injured guy,

815
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: you know, and other team's not gonna pick him up.

816
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: But did Patriots and Bill Belichick claim you off waivers

817
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: and then you spent the entire season what on the

818
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: pup list or I R.

819
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, on I are on IR with the Patriots. Yeah,

820
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 7: it was interesting.

821
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 5: Interesting that the general manager tells me that you know,

822
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 5: we're gonna put you on IR, and I was already

823
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 5: prepped by my agent of the situation what would happen?

824
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 5: And I told him, point, Blake, you know I want

825
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: to be here the Giants. I don't want to do this.

826
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 5: What's what's the chance that some team just takes a

827
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 5: flyer and steals me in the waiver wire and stores

828
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 5: me away for next year? And I was told by

829
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: our our GM that you know, that doesn't happen. Teams

830
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: don't do that. Blah blah blah. Well, later that day

831
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 5: I get a call from Kaflin tell me how much

832
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 5: he he cares about me and loves me, and and

833
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: and how I was a big part of the success.

834
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 5: And basically said, you know, Jake, you're a smart kid.

835
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 5: You know I don't get all the decisions. If I did,

836
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: this would not even be I would not even be

837
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 5: gambling this. And sure enough, the last day, last five

838
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: minutes of the waiver while whire Belichick and the Patriots

839
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 5: claimed me man no, and I had and I had

840
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: no decision or say the matter. The next morning, I

841
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 5: was on a plane to New England at six.

842
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: Am, Yeah twenty twelve, the regular season on the pup

843
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: list or IR, and then August thirtieth of twenty thirteen,

844
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: You're informed of your.

845
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: Release by the Patriots.

846
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: And then how did it come that you landed in

847
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: Arizona with Carson Palmer?

848
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 7: Yep, Carson a great guy.

849
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I was with New England all off

850
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 5: all twelve and I are just kind of rehabbing, you know,

851
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 5: since my injury wasn't a standard just ACL, it took

852
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 5: a little bit longer. Yeah, And I went through training camp,

853
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: played played in all the preseason games and it was

854
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 5: no secret.

855
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 7: You know, I knew my knee was not I wasn't.

856
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 5: Ready, you know, I wasn't up to snuff and ready

857
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 5: to play, and the team knew that. And I'll never

858
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: forget Belichick call. But like a coach wants to see

859
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 5: us the last day of cuts, you know what's happening

860
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 5: when you hear that and you go up there and

861
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 5: Nick Catherio was, uh, he wasn't old Billichick. Belichick's the

862
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 5: GM and coach, but Nick Casserio has the title. And

863
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 5: Nick starts talking to me and give me some standard

864
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 5: BS answer, And I'll never forget Bill said, Nick, I

865
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 5: got this one. And Bill says, Jake, you've been You've

866
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 5: done everything we've asked of you. We've enjoyed you being

867
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 5: here and being a Patriot, but you're a smart kid.

868
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 5: We just think you need a little more time rehabbing

869
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 5: that knee and getting it right, and we think it's

870
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 5: the best thing for both of us to part ways

871
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: right now. But we'll keep in contact with your you

872
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: and your agent, and if you get healthy, we'd love

873
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 5: to bring it back. So like that, that meant a

874
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 5: lot to me, you know, Belichick going out of his way,

875
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 5: not just treating me like another guy. But yeah, then

876
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: I ended up in Arizona with Carson Palmer, who was

877
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 5: also another just a great guy.

878
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and caught what a couple of touchdowns from Carson?

879
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did you have cause.

880
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: I got signed in the middle of the season after

881
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: rehaving my knee. Is actually funny. I was back in

882
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 5: New England working out and I was about to sign

883
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 5: with New England and they wanted to sign me because

884
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 5: I was in a much better spot and they had

885
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 5: some sign ends that were hurt and I obviously knew

886
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 5: the offense and everything else. But New England wanted to

887
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: sign me, and so the Cardinals. But the New England

888
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 5: wanted to wait until after the bye week, and the

889
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: Cardinals like, we need to sign you right now. So

890
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 5: I ended up going out to New England, I mean

891
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: going out to Arizona. Oh Man awesome.

892
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: And then on August sixth, twenty fourteen, Jake Ballard announces

893
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: his retirement.

894
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 2: And how tough a decision.

895
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 9: Was that.

896
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 7: It was. It was a gut check.

897
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 5: Uh, it was a very hard decision, you know, being

898
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 5: a game that I played since third grade and dreams

899
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 5: coming true when Super Bowl plays, playing in the NFL

900
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 5: and going through injuries, I I just was not in

901
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 5: love with the game like.

902
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 7: I used to. You know, I was probably playing an

903
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 7: eighty five.

904
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: Percent of what I used to be able to do.

905
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 7: And I was in pain every day.

906
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: I hated going to practice. My mental mentally just exhausted

907
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: because I just could not do what I used to

908
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 5: do and quality life was.

909
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 7: A big thing for me. And uh, after I.

910
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: Think it might have only been seven days in a

911
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 5: training camp is when I told my agent, I said,

912
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 5: I'm done. I just can't push it anymore. You know,

913
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 5: I don't have kids. I'd like to have kids and

914
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 5: still be able bodied at that point.

915
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 7: In time, and I was worried about getting hurt.

916
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 5: Worse not being you know, not being not playing one

917
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 5: hundred percent, worried about other injuries.

918
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 7: So I'll never forget.

919
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 5: I asked coach arians to have a conversation with them,

920
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 5: and I told him put my heart on my sleeve

921
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 5: and told him I was retiring. Broke down a little bit,

922
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 5: and he looked at me and he said, Jake, we

923
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 5: you know, we've loved.

924
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 7: Having you here. And I hate to hear this, but

925
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 7: he's like, you know, I have any problems in my heart.

926
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 5: I feel like you're making the right decision for you

927
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 5: and your and your family. So it was a special moment, Jake.

928
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: And now you're a real estate agent in the Columbus area,

929
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: possibly Upper Arlington, And how's that going for you?

930
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 7: It's going really well.

931
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: I've been doing over twelve years and I've been blessed

932
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 5: to work with so many great people and friends and

933
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: you know in the community that I want to change

934
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: it for anything, And I you know, what do you

935
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 5: hate you to say? You went with people and I

936
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 5: couldn't agree, they couldn't agree more. And I really enjoyed

937
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: it and feel.

938
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 7: Like it's what I'm supposed to be doing right now.

939
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: And last thing, Jake Ballard, you've been very kind with

940
00:51:55,120 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: your time words of wisdom for young athletes, young football

941
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: players coming up.

942
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: What would you tell them?

943
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 5: Man, I that's a deep question. I feel like I'll

944
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 5: have a lot of thoughts. But you know, you you

945
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 5: want to make sure you don't lose track of having

946
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 5: fun and then losing. They're taking sports for granted. You

947
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 5: need to put everything you can into it to make

948
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: sure you don't look back and regret your choices because

949
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: it's a game that can take you fear in life

950
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 5: and not just on the you know, competitive field or court.

951
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 7: You know it can give you.

952
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: Mental toughness and training for all aspects of life. And

953
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: it's it's it gives, it gives gives you what you.

954
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 7: Put into it.

955
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 3: Jake Ballard, Man, thank you so much for your time tonight.

956
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: This has been awesome, great stuff. All the best of

957
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: you and your family. Well, I appreciate it anytime then,

958
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 3: all right, thanks so much, Jake Ballard and yeah, as always,

959
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: go bucks.

960
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: Thank you man.

961
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 7: Thanks all right, take care you bet.

962
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: That's Jake Ballard And when we come back, Linda Shanstead,

963
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: Professor at Xavier University. All aspects of women in sports

964
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 3: when we return. This is Chick Ludwig Sports Talk till

965
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: nine o'clock tonight on seven hundred WLW well W well,

966
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: I say it all the time on these airwaves. The

967
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: greatest thing to happen in sports in my lifetime is

968
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: Title nine opening the door for women in sports. And

969
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: even though women have come a long way, there's still

970
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: a lot of work that needs to be done. We

971
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: welcome in my good friend, doctor Linda Shanstad, Professor, Xavier

972
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: University Sport Management and Marketing Department.

973
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: Linda, how the heck are you?

974
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 17: I'm great? How are you?

975
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 15: Oh?

976
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 2: Fantastic? Thank you so much for joining us and Linda.

977
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 3: On the surface, you know, it looks like, you know,

978
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: women's sports man gaining and popularity with the US women's

979
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: soccer team, the WNBA, the incredible nc DOUBA volleyball and

980
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 3: basketball tournaments. But still, man, there's issues there with gender discrimination, sexism,

981
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 3: unequal pay and funding, and even media coverage.

982
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: Am I right about that?

983
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 17: Well? I don't want to alienate fifty percent of your listeners, Chick,

984
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 17: but yeah, there's still some issues there, for sure, there are.

985
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 17: But let me just say I've been a fan of

986
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 17: men's and women's sports for a very very long time,

987
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 17: just as you have. And quite frankly, you know, the

988
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 17: men have had a lot of time to figure out

989
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 17: the marketing and sponsorship, promotion, advertising piece of this. You know,

990
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 17: women haven't really been doing it that long and so

991
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 17: you know, there's a lot of things to take away

992
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 17: from how the men do things, you know, and how

993
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 17: they've been successful. But there are you know, nuances I

994
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 17: think in the women's game that's taken more time to

995
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 17: catch up.

996
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: Sure, and gosh, that would be probably marketing and media coverage,

997
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: et cetera.

998
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 17: Oh absolutely, I mean, women in the last two Olympics,

999
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 17: actually probably the last three or four Olympics have only

1000
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 17: garnered about seven percent of all the media coverage, you know,

1001
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 17: so that you know, that says a lot and I

1002
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 17: get it. Sponsors want a sure thing. So the ones

1003
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 17: that are going to get the most money are the

1004
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 17: biggest uh you know uh sports that they're going to

1005
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 17: get a return on their investment for. And that makes

1006
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 17: perfect sense, you know, at the bottom line, you know,

1007
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 17: it's money. You know, money is going to drive access

1008
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 17: to sports, going to drive opportunities, and it's going to

1009
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 17: drive more equitable, you know, opportunities for women for sure.

1010
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 3: The Olympics are the The Winter Olympics in Italy are

1011
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: what sixty two days away? And I like to say

1012
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: that my favorite sport in the Winter Olympics is women's

1013
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 3: figure skating.

1014
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it.

1015
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: And being a volleyball ref and fast pitch softball umpire. Man,

1016
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: I look back to my days at Ohio State from

1017
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: seventy two to seventy six, Woody Hayes parked his Cadillac

1018
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: on the softball diamond on the pitchers mound.

1019
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 2: They thought the world was ending. Far from it, Linda.

1020
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 17: Well, consider the source it was, Woody.

1021
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And I remember sitting in doctor Phyllis Bailey's

1022
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: office when the title nine came down, and man, to

1023
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: think back to those days and to where we're at now.

1024
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: You know a lot of great strides that I just

1025
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: hope continue.

1026
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 17: Well, I think they will. And you pointed out, you

1027
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 17: know a lot of the leagues now we've got a

1028
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 17: women's professional baseball league, Women's professional hockey is really taking

1029
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 17: some big steps, you know so, and I think the

1030
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 17: Olympics are only another place to showcase you know a

1031
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 17: lot of that growth, you know, the college game, you know,

1032
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 17: is going to have a little bit of ways to go,

1033
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 17: certainly with nil and uh, you know third party you know,

1034
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 17: contributors to you know, the various athletes you know, and

1035
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 17: and and that's where I think we see some of

1036
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 17: the biggest inequities right now.

1037
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: And uh, we see sports being added in high school.

1038
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: In high school wrestling and flag football is seems to

1039
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: be taken off.

1040
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,479
Speaker 17: Yeah, and that's really really exciting. You know. Uh, women

1041
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 17: are clam and girls are clamoring for an opportunity to

1042
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 17: to compete. They want participation opportunities, and I think you know,

1043
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 17: if you look at the Ohio State Federation or the

1044
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 17: National Federation for High School in sports, you know, they're

1045
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 17: they're all looking for ways to get you know, both

1046
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 17: girls and boys, you know, continue becoming more involved and

1047
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 17: providing additional things that you know they want to play.

1048
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1049
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 17: It's these are all based on interest levels and then

1050
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 17: connecting them to pro sport, college sport, you know, the

1051
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 17: role models and coaching there. These are all great things

1052
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 17: I think for boys and girls across the board.

1053
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: Linda Shanstead is with us from Xavier University, and Linda,

1054
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, I'm reading a lot of stuff about girls,

1055
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, teenagers, you know, possibly leaving sports behind, and

1056
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: so retention has to be huge. There's opportunity out there,

1057
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: and I just hope the girls continue to take advantage

1058
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: of it.

1059
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Man.

1060
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: Judging by USA Softball and Junior Olympic Volleyball, man, thousands

1061
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: of girls are playing.

1062
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: I just hope they can be retained.

1063
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 17: Well. Sports become very expensive. I mean I had two

1064
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 17: kids go through and it was thousands of dollars, especially

1065
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 17: if they enjoyed it so much and ended up on

1066
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 17: club teams. You know, there's a financial hit that goes

1067
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 17: along with sport. You know, there's there's pay to play

1068
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 17: in a lot of high schools, and so you know

1069
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 17: there's a way that we can help defray those things.

1070
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 17: But you know, currently right now, that's that's what our

1071
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 17: model is. And so if parents want their kid to

1072
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 17: be the next you know, Steph Curry, you know they're

1073
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 17: certainly going to have to you know, pay the piper

1074
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 17: in order for their kids to be able to play.

1075
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 17: At least they have some enough training and then you

1076
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 17: know you kind of just see where the chips fall.

1077
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 17: But yeah, it's become a very very expensive enterprise, I think,

1078
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 17: and that's one reason that maybe some you know, boys

1079
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 17: and girls and males and females aren't able to stay

1080
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 17: in the sport that they love for as long as

1081
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 17: they do.

1082
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 3: Totally agree with you. I talked to some softball parents.

1083
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, the equipment that it takes, and then

1084
00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 3: the travel and gosh, the hotel rooms, the food, the transportation.

1085
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: It just uh man, you're you're up there in the

1086
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: five figures, maybe even six.

1087
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1088
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, and there's no question about that, you know,

1089
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 17: and a lot of us think, you know, my son

1090
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 17: thought he was going to be, you know, the next

1091
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 17: NBA player you know, out of Cincinnati, until he you know,

1092
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 17: stopped at five nine and a half five ten. And

1093
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 17: you can't teach size, you know, you can't. So you know, okay,

1094
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 17: well that's the worst plan b. So you know, and

1095
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 17: that that happens to you know, ninety nine point six

1096
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 17: percent of all the athletes. You know, there's just such

1097
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 17: a small percentage that are going to go on to

1098
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 17: actually be that NBA player or professional players. So it's

1099
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 17: I think it's an issue, and I think it's you know,

1100
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 17: it it directly addresses I think some of the inability

1101
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 17: for for kids to access sport.

1102
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's great to have Zaber Universities doctor Linda Shanstead

1103
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: with a sport management and marketing department at Xavier. UH.

1104
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: You had to be loving last night at the Centa Center.

1105
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 17: I was there and I had, you know, somehow they let,

1106
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 17: you know, a couple of our competitors fans in and

1107
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 17: they I had a couple sitting in front of me

1108
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 17: and a couple behind, but we all got along just fine,

1109
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 17: and it was really exciting. And I think what Richard

1110
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 17: Patino's done just in the last you know, a handful

1111
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 17: of weeks from the beginning of the year, I think

1112
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 17: he's made some believers.

1113
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 7: Out of a lot of us, no doubt.

1114
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: Yes, four straight wins, five out of the last six

1115
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: and used to do an eight.

1116
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: Fantastic job.

1117
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 3: Linda, can you explain to the gosh the listener what

1118
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: the what Ohio's Save Women's Sports Act is?

1119
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 17: Yeah? I know a little bit about it, but it's

1120
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 17: the idea that girls who that that the access to

1121
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 17: sport for girls who are have transitioned and have now

1122
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 17: now identify as as uh as male. Uh, that's been

1123
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 17: restricted or or banned and I understand it.

1124
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 7: I I do.

1125
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 17: I think there are some concerns, you know, with you know,

1126
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 17: the the level of strength and you know, skills and

1127
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 17: power that a lot of times are attributed to two boys.

1128
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 17: For me, it's it's a it's a science issue. I

1129
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 17: think we're not quite there yet to determine just what's

1130
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 17: most appropriate I think for for these individuals who who

1131
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 17: you know, aren't comfortable in the body that they were

1132
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 17: born in. So there's a lot to be be said

1133
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 17: about that. I mean, this is an issue that is uh,

1134
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 17: you know, as high up as as the Olympic Games,

1135
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 17: you know, it goes down into college. But it also

1136
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 17: is important to remember this is a very very very

1137
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 17: very small, very small number. Lest I looked, I think

1138
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 17: it was ten individuals in college period, and it's it's

1139
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 17: just a very very small number in the high schools

1140
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 17: as well. But I do understand the intention. I don't

1141
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 17: think it's it's you know, I just don't think we've

1142
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 17: settled that quite yet. But you know, it far from

1143
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 17: me to think I have the answers to this. It's

1144
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 17: been very very complicated with a lot of people trying

1145
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 17: to be what you know, to make the decisions that

1146
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 17: are most fair for any kid who wants to play sport.

1147
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: Linda one area that really kind of bothers me and

1148
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 3: I noticed this with Caitlin Clark coming out of the

1149
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 3: University of Iowa playing thirty plus games really her second

1150
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: last year and then her final season of college basketball.

1151
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, there's the WNBA Draft, and

1152
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: then less than a month later, the forty four game

1153
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: season starts. Man, don't they get a break? I mean,

1154
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: is there anything that can be done with the WNBA season?

1155
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 17: Well, chick, it's only going to get worse if the

1156
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 17: WNBA commissioners and the powers that be get their way

1157
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 17: with this new collective bargaining agreement, because the last projected,

1158
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 17: the last idea that was put forward was, yeah, we'll

1159
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 17: raise the caps to almost five million dollars per team,

1160
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 17: with your best players getting a million dollars and your

1161
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 17: middle of the road players getting half a million, and

1162
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 17: then your rookies, you know, at about two hundred and

1163
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 17: fifty dollars, which is great, but the trade off is

1164
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 17: is they actually start earlier to the season almost you know.

1165
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 17: And then in addition, they want to take away the housing,

1166
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 17: which you know, imagine being you know, as fluid as

1167
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 17: this can be sometimes with trades and an agency going on.

1168
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 17: You know, in the middle of a season, you know,

1169
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 17: somebody's got an apartment that they're renting, and now they've

1170
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 17: got to figure out how to sublet it or break

1171
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 17: the lease or pay a penalty, and they're you know,

1172
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 17: so there's a lot of issues. So you know, it's

1173
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 17: very very frustrating that, yeah, you're looking at, you know,

1174
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 17: allowing the players to share a little bit more in

1175
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 17: the revenue, but you're now going to make them play

1176
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 17: even sooner after the draft. You're, right, creating more potential

1177
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 17: for injury. And then you're also taking away some of

1178
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 17: the perks that they fought very hard for in the

1179
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 17: last collective bargaining agreement in twenty twenty.

1180
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: Oh very interesting, Linda, Thank you so much for that

1181
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: to break down. Well, sure, we see that the NCAA

1182
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: Women's volleyball tournament has started. Can anybody beat undefeated Nebraska?

1183
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 17: Man, I wouldn't bet against I would not bet against them.

1184
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 17: They're just loaded. I mean, you know, we kind of

1185
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 17: joke about some of these very very you know, talented

1186
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 17: teams that their their second and third strings would would

1187
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 17: be starters on you know, other top ten teams. Uh,

1188
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 17: Nebraska's really got it going on and that started with

1189
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 17: Terry Pettitt way back in the you know, the seventies

1190
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 17: and eighties, and then continued with John Cook and it's

1191
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 17: certainly uh continuing with coach Busboom, who's you know, if

1192
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 17: anybody who's a Louisville fan would remember her from last year.

1193
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 17: So yeah, they haven't missed a beat. And they do

1194
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 17: a great job of marketing, so they're also able to

1195
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 17: attract the players in the first place. And I know

1196
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 17: they're nil monies or actually it's probably their their their

1197
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 17: third party monies that are probably helping that situation out

1198
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 17: quite a bit.

1199
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: I know it's a sport you know and love as

1200
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: the former volleyball coach at Wright State and the University

1201
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 3: of Iowa, and I know you're following it very closely.

1202
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: And congratulations to both Right State and Xavier, even though

1203
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: they got knocked out in the first round, still a

1204
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: great accomplishment for both.

1205
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 17: It's a it's a great accomplishment, you bet, you know,

1206
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 17: and you know, success just usually begets more success. And

1207
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 17: I know Christy Peppenberger at Xavier and Dave got a

1208
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 17: new volleyball coach up at writes stayed here in the

1209
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 17: last few years, but they've really got it going on too.

1210
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 3: You bet well, Linda, this is this has been fantastic

1211
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: and given us kind of the state of union of

1212
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: women's sports here and I sincerely appreciate your time.

1213
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 17: Well, it's always an honor to be able to just

1214
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 17: talk sports with you, chicks. So have a great holiday

1215
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 17: season and same to your your listeners.

1216
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: Right back at you, Linda, thank you so much.

1217
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 17: You're welcome.

1218
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: I Chick, take care. That's Linda Shanstead, Xavier University, man

1219
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 3: professor in the Sport Management and Marketing Department. Uh, just

1220
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 3: a phenomen i'minal source for women in sports. And you're

1221
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 3: listening to Sports Talk with your host, Chick Ludwig and

1222
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: tonight's producer Sean McMahon on seven hundred WLWD the interview

1223
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 3: with Linda Shanstead, Savior University professor all things women sports.

1224
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: Also appreciate Jake Ballard, retired NFL tight end, joining us

1225
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: at the top of the seven o'clock hour. After the

1226
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: news at eight o'clock, we're going to bring in Greg

1227
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 3: Schumacher and we're going to talk some high school football.

1228
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: Anderson and Saint Xavier are defeated in the state championship

1229
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: games at Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium in Canton

1230
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: over the weekend, and we're going to talk about really

1231
01:08:53,360 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 3: both games, both teams, and the OHSAA released the mister

1232
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 3: Football for Ohio. We're going to introduce him also and

1233
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 3: talk about the state football playoffs. And I hate to

1234
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: bash the OHSAA, but the presenters, the trophy presenters at

1235
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 3: the state football championships in Canton have made some embarrassing mistakes.

1236
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 3: Columbus Bishop Waterson wins the Division three title and the

1237
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: presenter said Division two. And then oll In Tangy Orange

1238
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,560
Speaker 3: wins the D one state championship over Saint Zaber and

1239
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 3: the presenter forgot the year. He called them the twenty

1240
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 3: twenty four state champs. I'm there, Oh my gosh, just

1241
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 3: look at the trophy. It's twenty twenty five. And my

1242
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: good friend Tina Gears chimes in, some things never changed.

1243
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 3: They did the same thing with Elder back in the

1244
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: two thousand and two so I know it's tough giving

1245
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 3: the speeches at the end of the game to the

1246
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: runner ups and the champions. But man, get the division

1247
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 3: right and get the year right. So we've reached the

1248
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: top of the hour. News thanks so much for joining

1249
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: us tonight. This is Chick Ludwig alongside tonight's producer Sean McMahon.

1250
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Home of the Reds and the

1251
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 3: best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW.

1252
01:10:24,880 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 18: News eight o seven in the Queen City of Cincinnati.

1253
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: Chick Lugwigs, seven hundred WLW. This is sports talk.

1254
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 3: Like Eric Carmon and the Raspberries my favorite song. We're

1255
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 3: going all the way to nine o'clock tonight, and it's

1256
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: awesome to have Sean McMahon in my corner tonight running

1257
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: the big board in the seven hundred WLW Control Center.

1258
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk some high school football.

1259
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 3: What a weekend in Canton at Tom Benson Hall of

1260
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 3: Fame Stadium with our great friend, content director part owner

1261
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: of Tri Statefootball dot Com, the one and only Greg Shoemaker. Greg,

1262
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 3: thanks so much for carving out some time for us tonight. Brother,

1263
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 3: you're busting into the sixties in style.

1264
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, how about that? I went up Thursday night. It

1265
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 13: was my thirtieth ninth high school state championship game I evercovered. Unfortunately,

1266
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 13: Anderson lost to Avon h Man.

1267
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 7: But good.

1268
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 13: I gotta tell you that Avon team, they are the

1269
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 13: class of Division two as good as Anderson has been.

1270
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 13: Avon's now won back to back state titles in Division two.

1271
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 13: You got give me their credit. They beat Anderson the

1272
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 13: last two years, given Anderson their only loss in the tournament.

1273
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 13: And then in order to get there to play Anderson,

1274
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 13: Avon had to beat Maslin in the state semi finals

1275
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 13: in back to back years. So I had thought. And

1276
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 13: they won eight regional titles in the last nine years.

1277
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 13: So I mean, Avon's really really good. And you know,

1278
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 13: it was a tough night for Anderson. They had ten

1279
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 13: possessions of that game, Chick, and five of them they

1280
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 13: turned the ball over on downs. Another one they threw

1281
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 13: an interception at that Avon picked off on the Anderson twelve.

1282
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 13: Easy score for brave On. But they went up twenty

1283
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 13: one to nothing in this game. And I went back

1284
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 13: and looked at Anderson's games. They hadn't been down fourteen

1285
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 13: to nothing in a game since two thousand October twenty

1286
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 13: twenty two, thirty thirty four to thirty five straight games

1287
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 13: without ever being down fourteen to nothing. Then all of

1288
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 13: a sudden, Avon's up twenty one to nothing in that game.

1289
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 13: But again Anderson's not done. They returned ten oh eleven

1290
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 13: starters on offense. Next year, They're gonna be fun. And

1291
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 13: quarterback Owen scaffs at the record for passing yards in

1292
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,839
Speaker 13: the state championship game in Division two. He had almost

1293
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 13: three hundred and ninety or three hundred and sixty some

1294
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 13: ended up thirty one yards short of five thousand for

1295
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 13: the year and would have made him the eighth player

1296
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 13: in Ohio history with five thousand passing yards in the season. Now,

1297
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 13: Turner Lache up at Sidney Lanman threw for forty nine

1298
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 13: to ninety this year. So Owen scaffs total of forty

1299
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 13: six thirty nine or I'm sorry, forty nine thirty forty

1300
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 13: nine thirty six or whatever it is, we'll go down

1301
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 13: as the eleventh best single season passing yardage in Ohio history.

1302
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 13: So some good things out of that. Also, Tyson Weaver,

1303
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 13: the wide receiver at Anderson, had eleven receptions in that

1304
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 13: game that was tied for most in the Division two

1305
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 13: state championship game. He'll be back, he finished with ninety

1306
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 13: one catches this year for thirteen hundred and seventy five

1307
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 13: yards and twenty touchdown receptions. A transfer from Simon Kenton's,

1308
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 13: he'll be a senior next year. I think he's close

1309
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 13: to if not over two hundred career catches, he's close

1310
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 13: to it, and a fine, fine career going into his

1311
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 13: senior season, for sure.

1312
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 3: Definitely want to congratulate the Anderson Raptors on a phenomenal season.

1313
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 3: But man, I was watching that game and right away

1314
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 3: before the first snap, they had to call a time out,

1315
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 3: and I guess it was an equipment issue, that's what

1316
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:08,959
Speaker 3: the announcers were saying. But regardless, and then to fall behind,

1317
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: you know, gosh, I snap over I believe they tried

1318
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: to punt. Yeah, you know, a snap over the head

1319
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: and you're right fourteen to nothing before you blinked, and

1320
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: then it was twenty one to nothing and it was just, man,

1321
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: you're digging a hole that was almost impossible to climb

1322
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: out of. But nevertheless, what an incredible season for the

1323
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,879
Speaker 3: Raptors of Anderson.

1324
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean self inflicted wounds and they know it.

1325
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 13: You know, last year they lost to Avon in that

1326
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 13: it was a driving snow and a blustery win. The

1327
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 13: conditions were kretdy and I think everybody thought that, you know, hey,

1328
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 13: now Anderson gets that passing game gone, but it just

1329
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 13: didn't happen. I mean, this Avon team took out Jordan Davis,

1330
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 13: their running back for Anderson had was really nondescript in

1331
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 13: this game. And Jordan came in with over six hundred

1332
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 13: yards rushing, over seven hundred yards, receiving seventy receiving catches,

1333
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 13: twenty one rushing touchdowns, and they they limited him. And

1334
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 13: you know, I think it. Look, this Anderson team has

1335
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 13: got enough talent to get back to the finals again

1336
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 13: next year. All they're great players on the majority of

1337
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 13: them are coming back on defense as well, you know

1338
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 13: as the ten starters on offense. But look, this was

1339
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 13: self inflicted los. This is stuff that can be corrected.

1340
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 13: And if you want to go beat the best, I

1341
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 13: guarantee you Avon or Maslin is gonna be waiting for

1342
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 13: him again next year in the finals. But yeah, I mean,

1343
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 13: this team's this team's got the talent to get back there.

1344
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 13: You know what, They're thirty nine and two over the

1345
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 13: last two seasons, or twenty nine and two over the

1346
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 13: last seasons. Incredible fantastic football.

1347
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1348
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 3: Greg Shoemaker of Tristate Football dot Com with us. And

1349
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: before we get to the Division one game all in

1350
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: Tangy Orange over Saint X twenty eight to fourteen, I

1351
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: want to touch on Columbus Bishop Waterson thirty to nothing

1352
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: over Toledo Central Catholic. Now they they have the longest

1353
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 3: winning streak, now that Marion Local seventy six game winning

1354
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: streak has been snapped by Saint Henry, and Saint Henry

1355
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: winds up winning a state title today. But how about

1356
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: this for Waterson. Okay, back to back state football championships.

1357
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: Boys soccer team won the state this year. The girls

1358
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 3: were second in the state. Girls cross country won state.

1359
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: So Bishop Watterson's had an unbelievable fall and the quarterback

1360
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 3: rose what four interceptions and they still win thirty to nothing.

1361
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: That defense was unbelievable.

1362
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a Drew Bellisari is the quarterback here at Watterson.

1363
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 13: He is a Miami of Ohio A commit. I'm not sure,

1364
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 13: but I think it might be that Steve Belsaris kid

1365
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 13: that went to Oia State. Look, this is this Waterson

1366
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 13: team's good in the state semi finals. They crossed Typical

1367
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 13: New and Typical New had a great team this year.

1368
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 13: Matt Burbacker did a great job with those guys and

1369
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 13: Man and Chick. That's an impressive Waterson squad. They took

1370
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 13: care of business. If you look at their last two

1371
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 13: years in this thirty game win streak, very impressive. And

1372
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 13: I know some people are out there, they're talking about

1373
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 13: them being one of the best teams, the best team

1374
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 13: in the state of Ohio this year. But you know,

1375
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 13: very very awesome year for Waterson, There's no doubt about it.

1376
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 7: Man really good.

1377
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 2: Hey.

1378
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 3: Now the Division one game twenty eight to fourteen olin

1379
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: Tangy Orange its first state championship fifteen to zero, knocking

1380
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 3: off the Saint Savior Bombers. Want to reiterate what a

1381
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: great season Saint X had to bounce back from you know,

1382
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: losses to what Mohler and Elder and to defeat Elder

1383
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 3: and then get to state what an accomplishment by the Bombers.

1384
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 7: It really was.

1385
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 13: When you look back to this team, they were sitting there,

1386
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 13: so it's back to back games, like you said, then

1387
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 13: they avenge those two losses to Elder and Mueller in

1388
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 13: the playoffs. Uh, did a great job. And you know

1389
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 13: the game against Elder at pay Corps this year in

1390
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 13: the regional championship fantastic.

1391
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 7: Uh.

1392
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 13: Then then they go on and knock off Middletown to

1393
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 13: get to the state championship game. And you know, Daniel

1394
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 13: Bulmer goes down to that Middletown game. He might have

1395
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 13: made a big difference in this old and tense Orange game.

1396
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 19: But again, much like Avon, you got to give your

1397
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 19: hat off in credit to old and Tansey Orange fifteen

1398
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 19: and oh this year Levi Davis their quarterback.

1399
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 13: He's a dual threat guy. Yeah, phenomenal and check he

1400
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 13: fits that program there. You know that quarterbacks they have

1401
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 13: now to Ohio you as a dual threat to this kid.

1402
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 13: As long as that coach stays down there at Ohio you,

1403
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 13: this kid could have a really fun run in the MAC.

1404
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 13: I mean, fantastic player, fantastic kid. Uh. They get all

1405
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 13: they deserves. Second straight team from Lewis Lewis.

1406
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: Wherever it is it was center, Yeah Lewis.

1407
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean there's four ol and Tangi teams out

1408
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 13: of Lewis Center, now right, I mean we think Lakona

1409
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 13: East and West is big ol in Tangi they split

1410
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:15,480
Speaker 13: four times.

1411
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 7: So unbelievable.

1412
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 13: Great, great program and area for football up there, Lewis Center.

1413
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 13: I think that's uh with's that county up there, that's

1414
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 13: just north of Columbus.

1415
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 19: Delaware, Delaware County, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, good football

1416
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 19: being played up there.

1417
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 3: So once again, Orange twenty eight, Saint Savior fourteen, Avon

1418
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: thirty seven, Anderson twenty Waterson in Division three shuts out

1419
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 3: Toledo Central Catholic thirty to nothing. Cleveland Glenville with coach

1420
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: Ted Ginn Oh my gosh, forty five to seven over

1421
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 3: Shelby for the Division four title. Wheelersburg and Liberty Center.

1422
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 3: Right now. Division five, it's being played right now? Is

1423
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 3: the is the final game? Six Kirtland once a Hornet,

1424
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 3: always a hornet, northeast of Cleveland up there in Lake

1425
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: County forty one to six over Bascombe Hopewell Loudon forty

1426
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 3: one to six. Kirtland wins, and then Saint Henry, which

1427
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: knocked off Wow Marion Local, stopping the Flyers seventy six

1428
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 3: game winning streak. In the semifinals in Saint Henry all

1429
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 3: over Jeromesville Hillsdale thirty seven to three.

1430
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 2: So what a state? What a state tournament?

1431
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, chick, I was just looking at something on the

1432
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 13: Twitter before the last two games tonight. The average margin

1433
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 13: of victory in the five the first five state championship

1434
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 13: games was like twenty six point seven points or something.

1435
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 13: And since they went to this format at the OSSA

1436
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 13: and the tournament, the largest victory of margin and state

1437
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 13: championship games was just a little bit above that. And

1438
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 13: that's happened like in fifty years ago when it first

1439
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 13: started or whatever it was. But this is like the

1440
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 13: best teams are blowing out the second best teams by

1441
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 13: far in this tournament, but not so much blown them out,

1442
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 13: but I think they come out and they've all come

1443
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 13: out and made a statement all five winners so far

1444
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 13: of the tournament. So yeah, very impressive teams again, like

1445
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 13: I said, I mean Avon, Olan, Tangy Orange, just you know,

1446
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 13: as good as we are in southwest Ohio. Like it

1447
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 13: hats off to these guys because they've been fantastic.

1448
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, this weekend.

1449
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,839
Speaker 3: Coach Mike Schneider, who coached Man at Miamisburg, at Wayne

1450
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 3: all over the place. He's been going up there for

1451
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: forty years and he said that is one of the

1452
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: most impressive teams he's ever seen in Division one and

1453
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 3: Olan Tangy Orange and can we throw some shade here,

1454
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 3: Great Shoemaker of Tri State football dot Com on this

1455
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 3: year's Mister Football. The dude's name is Grady Kinsey from

1456
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: Ganaden Hutton, Indian Valley. A five foot eight, two d

1457
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 3: and five pound running back and linebacker. How about this

1458
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 3: this year two thousand and five and eighty five yards rushing,

1459
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 3: forty touchdowns and oh my gosh, his uh.

1460
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: I mean, his resume is just off the charts.

1461
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, so very much like Corey Kiner when when Roger

1462
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 13: Bacon won it. You know, a small school guy who

1463
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 13: won the Mister Football. This kid last year they took

1464
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 13: on Tapped in the state semi final game and he

1465
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 13: put on a show there. And I voted for Rider

1466
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 13: Hooks for Player of the Year Mister Ohio Mister Football.

1467
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 13: I had this kid second and Matt Ponatowski third in

1468
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 13: my voting for Ohio Mister Football this year. But yeah,

1469
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 13: I mean definitely earnd it. Very similar, like I said,

1470
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 13: very similar numbers to Corey Kiner rushing wise when he

1471
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 13: was at Roger Baker won this thing a few years back. Yeah,

1472
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 13: I mean that's all. I mean, just a great college

1473
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 13: or high school career, what you know. I think that's

1474
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 13: one of the great things about Ohio Mister Football. Sometimes

1475
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 13: you have like the best of the best players and

1476
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,799
Speaker 13: then sometimes you have just this awesome high school football player.

1477
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 13: And that's what Kinsey was. Definitely, it was a great

1478
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 13: high school football player.

1479
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 3: Only the third Mister Football Award winner from Eastern or

1480
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 3: Southeastern Ohio, joining Zanesville's Buster Howe in nineteen eighty seven

1481
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 3: and of course Athens Joe Burrow in two thy fourteen.

1482
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 3: But Kinsey all right, first in Ohio High School Athletic

1483
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: Association history with one hundred and thirty three career touchdowns,

1484
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,839
Speaker 3: second in total points at eight forty, third in career

1485
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: rushing yards eight thousand, six hundred and seven, and third

1486
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 3: in single season touchdowns with fifty man His three thy

1487
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 3: two hundred and seven eight rushing yards in twenty twenty

1488
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 3: four ranked ninth. So the dude is an absolute beast.

1489
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 3: For Wow, So I had to give that cat some shade,

1490
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: no doubt.

1491
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 13: Yeah, I hope he gets one of an offer from somewhere.

1492
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 13: You know, he could play he can survive in the MAC.

1493
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 13: You know, We've had a lot of guys like that

1494
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 13: that are very good high school running backs that get

1495
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 13: a preferred walk on offer, and sometimes they don't show

1496
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 13: up for two or three years. This is one of

1497
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 13: those kids. I mean, whether he ends up at like

1498
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 13: a West Virginia or OHIU or a kid's state or

1499
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 13: somewhere like that, somebody take a chance on this kid

1500
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 13: because he's a gamer man and he wins.

1501
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 7: He's kind of like those kids.

1502
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 3: Well, if you can't get that that nice offer, man,

1503
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 3: he could wind up at Dayton, he could wind up

1504
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 3: at a John Carroll or a Mount Union. Who knows.

1505
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 3: But I think the kids got a phenomenal future, no

1506
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: doubt I do. Yeah, but what a season, Greg, You

1507
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: can uh man, you can breathe now, hopefully not really.

1508
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 13: The All Ohio teams come out next week. Check. I

1509
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 13: got Kevin articles. Starting on Monday on Tri State Football

1510
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 13: dot Com. We will have the Division six and seven

1511
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 13: all All Ohio teams. Then the next day it's uh

1512
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 13: four and five, and then two and three, and then

1513
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 13: on Thursday, you're.

1514
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: Like major League Baseball.

1515
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Just yeah, uh you never quit titioned it out a

1516
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 3: little bit at a time, and uh, with all bases covered, man,

1517
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 3: great stuff.

1518
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, and then after that, I mean we'll be in

1519
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,520
Speaker 13: the All Tri State team. You know, we get are

1520
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 13: the best players from you know, Southeast Indiana, southwest Ohio

1521
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 13: and includes Dayton and our Northern Kentucky teams. After this

1522
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 13: week or coming up, that'll that'll start being in being

1523
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 13: in the fold on Tri State Football dot com and

1524
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 13: that runs all the way up to our awards show

1525
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 13: on President's Day. I think it's w Monday, February sixteenth.

1526
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 13: This year at the Holy Grail, we will have our

1527
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 13: Player of the Years from Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio Dayton or

1528
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 13: a Cincinnatian Dayton, you know, offensive, defensive, and Teams of

1529
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 13: the year those are still up for grabs. There's been

1530
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 13: some great teams and we might not have any state

1531
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 13: champions this year in any of those those places, but boy,

1532
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 13: we have some great stories and some great teams to

1533
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 13: talk about. I mean, so Tri State football is not

1534
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 13: stopping anytime soon, all the way through February for sure.

1535
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 13: Then and we might take a little spring break for

1536
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 13: a little March madness about.

1537
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 2: What it's like.

1538
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: It's like, you see trying to Trey Carroll the Aquaman.

1539
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: You couldn't stop him, you couldn't even contain him. And

1540
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 3: that's what Trice State football is all about locally. So Greg,

1541
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight. Really appreciate it.

1542
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 7: Man.

1543
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 13: Awesome, Hey chiit have a happy holiday season. And God

1544
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 13: bless you and your family.

1545
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Right back at you, and man, you're busting into your sixty.

1546
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: He's in style, I know.

1547
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 6: Man.

1548
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 13: We'll catch it up with you, brother.

1549
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, have fun, be safe, you bet, man,

1550
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Great, awesome. Hey, uh, we're gonna

1551
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 3: come back with more. Uh, man, I haven't even touched

1552
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 3: on the Bengals. We'll update some scores and fired up

1553
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: here for the Buckeyes and whoa and uh just great

1554
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 3: to have you with us tonight on seven hundred WLW W.

1555
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: Awesome to have you.

1556
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: With me tonight, and fantastic to have Sean McMahon as

1557
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 3: tonight's producer keeping the Chickster off the Legend in the

1558
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Fairway and we are wide open this last half hour.

1559
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 3: I've got my coffee, I've got my computer. All I

1560
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 3: need is you at five one, three, seven four nine

1561
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 3: seven thousand, one eight hundred the Big One. Indiana has

1562
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 3: taken a three to nothing lead over Ohio State after

1563
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: Julian saying through an interception hip ball red zone, but

1564
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 3: the Buckeyes held the Hoosiers out of the end zone

1565
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: and Indiana jumped on Ohio State with a Fueld goal

1566
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 3: for a three to zero lead here in the first quarter.

1567
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: Want to thank tonight's guests Jake Ballard, Linda Shanstead, and

1568
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:28,680
Speaker 3: Greg Schumacher making this show. Dare I say, I'd like

1569
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 3: to think above average? Well, it's the Bengals and the

1570
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 3: Bills tomorrow in Buffalo actually Orchard Park, and been up

1571
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 3: there a few times during my days as the Bengals

1572
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: beat Rider. And when you turn the corner and start

1573
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 3: heading up to the stadium, it's an unbelievable site because

1574
01:29:54,680 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: on both sides of the street people are tailgating, drinking

1575
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 3: their Labat Blue beer. It is truly an awesome sight.

1576
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills fans known as the Bills Mafia.

1577
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Now. I really enjoy reading Jay Morrison.

1578
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 3: Of Bengals on SI and he came out with a

1579
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 3: story this week courtesy some stats from sport Radar database

1580
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 3: about how efficient the Bengals are winning games in cold weather,

1581
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:49,839
Speaker 3: and since two thousand, when it is thirty degrees or colder,

1582
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 3: the Bengals have a sixteen and eight record. That's a

1583
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 3: six sixty seven winning percentage, and that's second only to

1584
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 3: New England's thirty three to ten record, which is a

1585
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 3: seven sixty seven winning percentage. So thirty degrees or colder

1586
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 3: since two thousand, Bengals are sixteen to eight.

1587
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: And then as the road team playing on the road

1588
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: in thirty.

1589
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 3: Degrees or less with at least four road games, the

1590
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: Bengals are seven and four and that is the best

1591
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 3: road record thirty degrees or colder. That's six thirty six

1592
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 3: winning percentage, and the Bengals are five and one in

1593
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: their last six games on the road playing in thirty

1594
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 3: degrees or colder, So that bodes well for the Bengals

1595
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 3: tomorrow against the Buffalo Bills, and of course the Bills

1596
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 3: with quarterback Josh Allen just an incredible stat. Allen has

1597
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 3: six career rushing touchdowns, making him the NFL's career leader

1598
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 3: for quarterbacks, a record he's set this month, surpassing Cam Newton.

1599
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 3: His seventy six rushing tds rank him among the top

1600
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 3: twenty five all time players, including Hall of Fame running backs,

1601
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 3: highlighting his exceptional dual thread ability as a quarterback, Josh Allen,

1602
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 3: Bengals don't necessarily have to stop him, They've just got

1603
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 3: to contain him. And Man James Cook just a phenomenal

1604
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: running back for the Buffalo Bills. And I've asked myself

1605
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 3: numerous times, how is this defense of the Bengals gotten better?

1606
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 3: And they have improved the last few games, and it

1607
01:32:55,680 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 3: comes down to one person, quarterback Joe Burrow. When Burrow

1608
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 3: is on the field, he raises everyone's level, not just

1609
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 3: on offense but on defense. And the hustle plays that

1610
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 3: we saw last week on Thanksgiving Night against the Baltimore

1611
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 3: Ravens fantastic. The Bengals are four and eight. Both Baltimore

1612
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh are six and six. Pittsburgh plays at Baltimore

1613
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 3: on Sunday. One of those teams will go to seven

1614
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: and six, and even if the Bengals win and get

1615
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 3: to five and eight, they'll still be two games back.

1616
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 3: If the Bengals lose, they'll be three games back with

1617
01:33:53,000 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 3: four to play. So every game it feels like it's

1618
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 3: playoffs right now going into Buffalo. So Man strap it

1619
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 3: on for tomorrow at one o'clock in Buffalo for your

1620
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals and the best place to want to celebrate

1621
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 3: a Bengals victory. It will be at Wings and Rings

1622
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 3: the King's Mills location fifty five seventeen King Center Drive

1623
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 3: in Mason. I will be broadcasting co hosting with Bengals

1624
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 3: legend David Fulcher from five point thirty to eight thirty

1625
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 3: once again tomorrow at Wings and Rings the King's Mills location,

1626
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 3: King Center Drive in Mason following the Bengals Bills game.

1627
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: And if you can't.

1628
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 3: Join us in person, we hope you'll listen on seven

1629
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 3: hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifth teen thirty those call

1630
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 3: in numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand

1631
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 3: or one eight hundred the Big One. And you can

1632
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 3: check out my Facebook page. Man Wings and Rings did

1633
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 3: a really nice job of gosh a promotional ad that

1634
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 3: I grabbed and put on my Facebook page and Wings

1635
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 3: and Rings Sports Talk Live with Chick Ludwig and a

1636
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: former Cincinnati Bengals football player that is David Fulcher. And

1637
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 3: happy birthday to David's wife, Judy, just celebrating a birthday,

1638
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 3: and happy birthday, Judy Fulture fantastic. So Bengals play well

1639
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 3: in cold weather, as we saw during their Super Bowl

1640
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: run in the snow at up in Buffalo, and we

1641
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 3: could see some more snow tomorrow. Now, if you're looking

1642
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 3: for a Christmas gift, I've got something for you here,

1643
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: and I want to read this email that I got

1644
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 3: from Doug King, the event coordinator of the Dave Parker

1645
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 3: thirty nine Foundation. Friends, as we celebrate this holiday season,

1646
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 3: we would ask that you please share this email and

1647
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 3: link with your friends, family, neighbors, coworkers, etc. We have

1648
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 3: a number of highly desirable, collectible and in some cases

1649
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 3: very rare items we are offering for sale. Well, you

1650
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 3: may not know a collector, maybe your officemate does, or

1651
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 3: perhaps your neighbor down the street. If you share this

1652
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 3: email and ask your contacts to share it, also a

1653
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 3: huge network of people will see the item. Perhaps there

1654
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 3: is a buyer out there through your efforts. Wouldn't that

1655
01:36:58,680 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 3: feel great?

1656
01:36:59,520 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 13: Yes?

1657
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 3: It will to know you directly help the foundation and

1658
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 3: through us the University of Cincinnati Gardner Neurosurgeon, neurosurance. Gosh,

1659
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 3: can I say that one more time? The University of

1660
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati's Gardener Neuroscience Institute and so what you want to do?

1661
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: Check it out on my Facebook page. Go to Dave

1662
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 3: Parker thirty nine foundation dot com and check out all

1663
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 3: the incredible prizes. Hey, we're gonna take one final break here,

1664
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 3: come back update some scores. Happy to take your calls

1665
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 3: at five, one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

1666
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 3: eight hundred the Big One. It's Chick Ludwig Sports Talk

1667
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW, eight minutes before the top of the hour,

1668
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 3: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW. This is sports Talk. We're

1669
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 3: going till nine o'clock tonight and that's when Donna he

1670
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 3: takes over these airwaves. Well, want to update you on

1671
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 3: some scores. Indiana has a three to dozing lead over

1672
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: Ohio State, but the Buckeyes just intercepted Fernando Mendoza and

1673
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 3: they're in pretty good shape.

1674
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 2: Here in the plus territory.

1675
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 3: At Lucas Oil Stadium in the Big Ten Championship Game,

1676
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 3: Duke has taken a seven to nothing lead over Virginia

1677
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 3: in the final seconds of the first half. Seven to

1678
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 3: nothing in favor of the Duke Blue Devils. The Georgia

1679
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 3: Bulldogs all over Alabama today twenty eight to seven in

1680
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 3: the SEC title game. And if you watch the Big

1681
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 3: twelfth Championship while Texas Tech thirty four to seven over BYU,

1682
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 3: and when you think about the UC Bearcats, that's how

1683
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 3: good you have to be. I mean, BYU destroyed UC

1684
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 3: and then BYU gets destroyed by Texas Tech today thirty

1685
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,759
Speaker 3: four to seven in the Big twelve championship game. That's

1686
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:05,520
Speaker 3: how good you have to be to win that conference championship.

1687
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 3: And last night tu Lane over North Texas thirty four

1688
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 3: to twenty one, in James Madison over Troy thirty one

1689
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 3: to fourteen. Could we see Twulane and or James Madison

1690
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 3: in the college football playoff? We'll find out tomorrow at

1691
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 3: noon on ESPN when the final bracket of twelve teams

1692
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 3: is revealed. And you can't help but think, folks, no

1693
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 3: matter how much the college football playoffs expand, and I

1694
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 3: really can't see them expanding beyond twelve, there's going to

1695
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 3: be somebody disappointed, upset, angry that they didn't make it.

1696
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 3: In the big question tomorrow, will Miami Hurricanes and or

1697
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: Notre Dame make the twelve team playoff? Miami beat Notre Dame,

1698
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 3: but Notre Dame is ahead of Miami in the rankings.

1699
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 3: In the standings, so if Duke wins tonight, that's just

1700
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 3: going to throw everything out the window. It's going to

1701
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 3: be crazy. If Duke upsets seventeenth rank Virginia. I want

1702
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 3: to throw some shade here at the Miami RedHawks. And

1703
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 3: even though Miami lost today to Western Michigan in the

1704
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 3: MAC Conference championship game at Ford Field, a Detroit, twenty

1705
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 3: three to thirteen, the mere fact that Miami reached the

1706
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 3: championship game, gosh, borders on a miracle. They've lost their

1707
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 3: first three games of the season, with two games remaining

1708
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 3: in the regular season against Buffalo and ball State. Their quarterback,

1709
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 3: to Kwan Finn, leaves the program. A seventh year player

1710
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 3: who played at Toledo and then at Baylor and then

1711
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 3: was Miami's quarterback this year, ups and leaves the program

1712
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 3: to get ready for the NFL Draft, But Chuck Martin,

1713
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 3: head coach of the RedHawks, undaunted. He turns to freshman

1714
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 3: quarterback Thomas scott Kowski from Ben Davis High School, a

1715
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 3: freshman from Indianapolis, and Thomas scott Kowski leads the RedHawks

1716
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 3: to a pair of victories into the MAC title game

1717
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 3: and then Thomas scott Kowski got injured today in Henry

1718
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 3: Hessen needed to come on and finish up. But what

1719
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 3: plagued Miami today. Wow, Western Michigan's rushing attack fifty six

1720
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,759
Speaker 3: carries two hundred and eighty six yards on the ground,

1721
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 3: one to eleven through the air for Western Michigan and

1722
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,480
Speaker 3: brock Lowry.

1723
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 2: Miami ooh.

1724
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 3: On the ground thirty one carries for only seventy three yards,

1725
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 3: a two point four yard average on the ground. Hessen

1726
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,839
Speaker 3: and Gotkowski combined for one hundred and ninety nine yards passing,

1727
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 3: but it was just too much Western Michigan. Western Michigan

1728
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 3: led sixteen to six at halftime, scored seven in the

1729
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 3: third quarter. Miami scored seven in the fourth, but Western

1730
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 3: Michigan improves to nine and four with the victory today

1731
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 3: of the MAC Championship. The RedHawks fall to seven and six.

1732
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 3: Miami will find out, along with the UC Bearcats, what

1733
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 3: their date is for a bowl game. So my question

1734
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 3: keeps coming up, what is who is UC's rival. Wish

1735
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: it was pitt Wish it was Louisville, but they're in

1736
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 3: the ACC. Maybe it's West Virginia. Maybe they can work

1737
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 3: out a final game as a rivalry game during rivalry

1738
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 3: weekend late in the season, we'll find out a lot

1739
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 3: of great discussion. Congratulations to Xavier Musketeers, seventy nine to

1740
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 3: seventy four winners in the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout.

1741
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Not showdown.

1742
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 3: If the Bearcats can't beat Eastern Michigan at home, I

1743
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 3: don't care who was injured in that game. Boba Miller

1744
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 3: was out. You've got to win that game. How can

1745
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 3: you expect UC to go into Sintas Center and win

1746
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 3: that game?

1747
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 2: You see was the.

1748
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 3: UC has tremendous athletes, but they struggled to shoot the ball.

1749
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 2: And there there's.

1750
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,799
Speaker 3: Specialty is supposed to be defense, but they could not stop.

1751
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:50,799
Speaker 3: They absolutely couldn't stop Xavior. Congratulations to the Savior Musketeers. Also,

1752
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 3: Anderson and Saint x He had a phenomenal high school

1753
01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 3: football seasons, but they came up short in these state

1754
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 3: championship games Sanex losing to Olin Tangy Orange last night

1755
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 3: and earlier this weekend, Avon all over the Anderson Raptors. Nevertheless,

1756
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 3: great seasons and I look forward to reading more about

1757
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 3: all the great high school players around the tri State

1758
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 3: area on Tri statefootball dot Com. Special thanks to our

1759
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 3: guest tonight, Jake Ballard, Linda Shanstead, and Greg Schumacher, and

1760
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 3: a special thanks to tonight's producer Sean McMahon. Keeping the

1761
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 3: Chickster off, the legend in the Fairway Man, keep that

1762
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 3: remote going strong, and who Day tomorrow against the Buffalo

1763
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 3: Bills Until next time, which will be Tuesday night as

1764
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 3: I fill in for Lance McAllister. Until then, it's the

1765
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 3: Chickster saying thanks for listening to the home of the

1766
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 3: Reds and the best Bengals coverage.

1767
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: Seven hundred WLW News Traffic