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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six forty on demand. Suzanne,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. So Hi, how can

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Speaker 1: I help you?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I became a Christian at twenty three, my husband at

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Speaker 3: twenty seven. We raised our children in the church, all faith,

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Speaker 3: professions of faith. My son, of course, lets home with

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Speaker 3: college and has joined a new church and believes in

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Speaker 3: baptismal regeneration and is questioning my husbands and mine and

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Speaker 3: his sisters and brothers salvation because we were not immerse

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Speaker 3: baptized after our profession of faith, and I wanted to know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, as shared other scriptures, you know, if there

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Speaker 3: was something specific that you thought we could say, you know,

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Speaker 3: to set his mind at ease. You know that it's

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Speaker 3: faith without works is dead, It's true, but that baptism

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Speaker 3: is an expression of our faith and not work that

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Speaker 3: saves us.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 3: So okay, I'm just not getting through to him.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, and scripture may help, it may not,

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Speaker 1: because sometimes the scripture is twisted by those that you know,

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Speaker 1: practice that and it becomes very difficult. You know, you

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Speaker 1: talk about the thief on the cross, and if you

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Speaker 1: remember I say today you will be with me in paradise, right,

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Speaker 1: and they'll say, well, he wasn't baptized with water, but

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Speaker 1: he was baptized in his own blood. Oh, and so

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Speaker 1: that's really hard to get around when you start getting

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Speaker 1: into stuff like that. The best way to look at

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Speaker 1: it is that it causes this to be the equation

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Speaker 1: if you were to write it on a chalkboard, Jesus

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Speaker 1: Christ's death and blood on the cross plus what's your

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Speaker 1: son's name, what's his name and Andrew plus Andrew's baptism

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Speaker 1: equal salvation. Now, how does that look as an equation?

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Speaker 1: The sinless lamb of God coming, dying on the cross,

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Speaker 1: shedding his blood plus what Andrew's doing equal salvation. And

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Speaker 1: I think that is one of the most powerful ways

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Speaker 1: to show that if you are adding anything to what

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Speaker 1: God has done, it's BLUs for me.

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Speaker 3: He's an economist, so that should does he'll like the math.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll like the math.

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Speaker 3: I really do. I think that was very inspired of

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Speaker 3: you to say, because he is so concrete and I'm

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Speaker 3: not an economist, and he has you know, your touchy

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Speaker 3: deily religion mom, you know kind of thing, and so

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Speaker 3: I really do like that. So thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to use that please any you know, you

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Speaker 1: can go through First Corinthians and Paul saying I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that I baptized none of you. Why would he do that?

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Speaker 1: Why would he say I'm glad I'm baptized none of

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Speaker 1: you and First Corinthians one fourteen if it was of

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Speaker 1: that type of importance, and it just it Really, it

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Speaker 1: makes my words on the cross not makes sense when

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Speaker 1: I say to tell a sty when I say it's finished,

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Speaker 1: really that would be it's finished, not with an exclamation point,

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Speaker 1: but with a comma. It's finished. When Andrew goes and

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Speaker 1: baptized gets baptized. That just it. Really, it doesn't. Can

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Speaker 1: you twist certain scriptures to make it fit. Eh, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's those that do that, but you can't do

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Speaker 1: it with the whole whole of scripture. Really, it ends

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Speaker 1: up making and he sounds like, you know, a bright guy,

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Speaker 1: he's just overthinking it. And really it's very important. It's

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Speaker 1: really really hard. But it no more makes you married

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Speaker 1: to wear a ring than it makes you unmarried not

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Speaker 1: to wear it. It's an important part of the process.

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Speaker 3: It affects his witness to other people. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: adding to scripture, adding to Christ's work before they can

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Speaker 3: be saved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not it is. It is is a

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Speaker 1: wonderful part of the actualization of your faith. You're putting

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Speaker 1: it into play, But the concept that you're adding something

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Speaker 1: to the cross is horrific. Essentially, if you remember it

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Speaker 1: the Garden of Gathsemone, you know that the whole story

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Speaker 1: is those three parts. You've got gaseimony, Calvary, and the

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Speaker 1: empty tune the beginning, middle and ending. So Gathsemone is

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Speaker 1: me praying quietly to the Father, saying, if this cup

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Speaker 1: can pass? Do you know what I'm saying. I'm telling him, essentially, God,

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Speaker 1: if if Andrew can just get baptized, or just be

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Speaker 1: to go to the cross. And the Father answers, obviously

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Speaker 1: You need to go to the cross. And I said,

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Speaker 1: all right, done and done, and I did it. If

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Speaker 1: getting baptized did it. If there was any sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, if just receiving Christ consciousness or you know,

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Speaker 1: meditating or any if any of that did it, there

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Speaker 1: was no reason for me to go to the cross.

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Speaker 1: So anytime you put a comma after what I said

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Speaker 1: on the cross, anytime you add or put a plus

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Speaker 1: symbol after the cross and add something, it's blasphemy because

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Speaker 1: of that conversation I had with my father, because the

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Speaker 1: things that I said on the cross said that it

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Speaker 1: was done the belief and is a free gift of

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Speaker 1: grace that is received, and that's it. That is the

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Speaker 1: only thing is that it's received and then once received,

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Speaker 1: it's applied for it to grow, but not for it

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Speaker 1: to exist. And that's it. But when you start saying

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Speaker 1: and baptism and these things, is when you start getting,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, into a lot of things that become quite blasphemous.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you that. I really think

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Speaker 3: that's very clear, and I will use everything. He said.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have a good day, bless you. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you called Carmine. Yes turned down your radio. Brother. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how can I help you out?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: In my first of all, I like to say, this

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Speaker 2: show is incredible and I'd love to listen to it

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Speaker 2: every time my can.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're very nice, Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to say that, and I want to

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Speaker 2: say that in my life, I've had a lot of

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Speaker 2: hardships and even though I have, I feel that you

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Speaker 2: have brought me to a place that would keep me

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Speaker 2: go on in my life. I have a career as

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Speaker 2: an entertainer all of my life, but I've never made

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Speaker 2: that and I've never had a day where i didn't

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Speaker 2: need to find the next dollar. I've always been, you know,

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Speaker 2: never lived a great life with money, but I've lived

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Speaker 2: a great life for her doing with I do. I

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Speaker 2: was blessed with with two of my own children that

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Speaker 2: I was able to raise by myself after my second course,

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Speaker 2: and two children that passed were before that, and I

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Speaker 2: thought that you would give me that to prove that

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Speaker 2: I can I can actually raise two children because the

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Speaker 2: of all those trials and tribulations in my life, aside

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Speaker 2: place I am right now and I'm fifty eight years old.

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Speaker 2: I've been singing pretty much every night most of my life.

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Speaker 2: My career has gone downhill now as far as I

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Speaker 2: just became a restaurant singer and can't make ends meet.

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Speaker 2: And then that was brought to my attention. There was

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Speaker 2: a show going on where they actually invite people of

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Speaker 2: any age, and I felt that God has put me

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Speaker 2: in the place right now where I'm in the best

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Speaker 2: health and the best I look, the best. I've lost

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Speaker 2: a ton of weight. I've really come far and to

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Speaker 2: do this audition, and my faith is so strong because

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Speaker 2: of things that have gone on in my life that

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Speaker 2: brought me to hear where I am.

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Speaker 1: And where's here? Where's here? What's your question for me?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going for an audition, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: you have brought me there. But people tell me you

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm an old fool to go and attempt

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Speaker 2: to need the challenge and I just need some kind

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's there's a Let me tell you the difference

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Speaker 1: between a fool and a proper dreamer. Uh. A proper

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Speaker 1: dreamer is someone who says, you know, what I can fly.

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Speaker 1: A fool is someone who says I can fly without

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Speaker 1: an airplane. So it's not that a dream is silly,

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Speaker 1: because there that's what makes that's what creates planes, is

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Speaker 1: someone first had to go, I want to fly. Now

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Speaker 1: I have to find a way to do it legitimately. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you have this, this dream, this goal, this desire,

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Speaker 1: all wonderful, all get God given gifts, all of those things, however,

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Speaker 1: it has to be applied practically, even more so than

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Speaker 1: I would tell someone that didn't have children. Those children

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Speaker 1: are your rudders. They are your stability, and they are

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Speaker 1: your focus and have to be the first, the last,

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Speaker 1: to reach out and try something that's not going to

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Speaker 1: hurt you or that might make their life better, great,

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Speaker 1: But everything that you do from here on is not

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Speaker 1: about even your dreams, but about raising those children properly.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: So that's incredible because that's exactly it. I mean, I've

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Speaker 2: raised my children from when they were babies and now

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Speaker 2: they're once twenty and seventeen, and I feel at this

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Speaker 2: time that God has put me here in his place

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Speaker 2: in the posssion I am and with all the gifts

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Speaker 2: that this is. That's why I feel so strong about going.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have to travel to Dallas, Texas from

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. But you know, my kids are old and

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Speaker 2: there's also someone versus in my life.

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Speaker 1: Well, just just hearing, Carmine, more important than anything else,

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Speaker 1: those children, and I want to hear you say it's say,

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Speaker 1: more important than anything else? Are my children more.

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Speaker 2: Important and always have been than life?

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Speaker 1: Are children good? That's it. Now, as far as dreams,

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Speaker 1: there's no expiration date. I mean, there are certain limitations,

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Speaker 1: and things may go down different paths and all of

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Speaker 1: people to dream and to to one expand it just

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Speaker 1: can't be at the expense of everything else. That's all, Carmine.

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Speaker 1: So if you have to, you know, juggle some things

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Speaker 1: God's speed and our prayers are with you to fulfill

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Speaker 1: that dream. But nothing, nothing should get in the way

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Speaker 1: of raising those children. Now, if you were a businessman

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Speaker 1: and you had to go on a trip, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to do a similar thing where you have somebody take

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Speaker 1: care of them and all that. So that's in those

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Speaker 1: guidelines of normalcy. But if you break from that in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, and the kids start stop

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Speaker 1: getting The first focus is when I have concerns and

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Speaker 1: it becomes a problem to God. So it says scripture

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Speaker 1: that those things are first. But all the gifts you

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Speaker 1: have are given to you by God. They are supposed

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Speaker 1: to be used. They may not be used the way

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Speaker 1: you think, you know, or what you had hoped originally,

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Speaker 1: but they will be used for God to glorify God.

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Speaker 1: But never at the expense of your children. Rich, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning Jesus, Hi Rich,

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Speaker 1: how can I help you?

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Speaker 5: Well, I've got a bit of a life situation. The

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Speaker 5: backstory is my wife's grandfather in eighty six or so

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Speaker 5: went into hospital. Recently, he's on his deathbed, but the

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Speaker 5: doctors were able to kind of pull them back from that.

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Speaker 5: He subsequently wanted to rehab and laughed a couple of times.

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Speaker 5: It's not really eating, drinking enough. It's been very stressful

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Speaker 1: It's literal, and the Greek used there i onus is literal.

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Speaker 1: now the now they bring out the really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, why didn't they do this first? We've been

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Speaker 1: there's nothing that says that it was grape juice or

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Speaker 1: you know, people try and skirt that and try and

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Speaker 1: it's not. It's about moderation and proper application. And not

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Speaker 1: that category. However, you have a problem with alcohol, then

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Speaker 1: it's a sin to drink.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, very cool, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, You're very welcome. Obviously, it would be a sin

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Speaker 1: to drink even in moderation during other things too, driving

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Speaker 1: and the like. So these are the things that need

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Speaker 1: to be understood, and a lot of people get lost

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Speaker 1: in that going. Well, is this thing because everybody wants

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Speaker 1: scripture to be, you know, like the Ten Commandments, and

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Speaker 1: it's not. There are some things where you have to

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Speaker 1: use discernment and judgment to understand and you know, truly

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Speaker 1: have the best insight as to what you need to

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Speaker 1: do in your life, you know. So that's an important

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Speaker 1: thing to understand. The difference in KFI AM sixty on demand.

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Speaker 3: Yes,