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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Radio.

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Speaker 2: No surprise there on Bragman. He had a good year.

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Speaker 2: I think that any concerns about his leg injury of

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Speaker 2: may have been addressed. Why not if you're Alex Bregmant,

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Speaker 2: go back in the market and and see if you

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Speaker 2: can get more than eighty And you could always, I assume,

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Speaker 2: come back to the Red Sox. Maybe not for eighty,

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Speaker 2: but you wouldn't lose that much if if, if you

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Speaker 2: don't try it, I'll ever know. So that's that's not

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Speaker 2: a surprise. And he apparently had talked in the past

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Speaker 2: tense in the clubhouse the other day, and that that

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Speaker 2: was also sort of a sign to some people that

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Speaker 2: he enjoyed, had enjoyed to stay with the Red Sox.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, boy, I hate to lose Bragmant. Really, you know,

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Speaker 2: valuable guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh he was the leader of the team Dan without

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Speaker 3: doubt this year immediately.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no question, no question. He stabilized that that team,

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Speaker 2: that clubhouse and all of that. That'll be But again

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Speaker 2: they have you know, you know, Meyer is a third

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Speaker 2: is a potential third baseman. I there are others in

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Speaker 2: the free agent market. I would think the Yankees would

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Speaker 2: be looking at Bregmant because they don't have a third basement.

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Speaker 2: And they got mcmahoned, the kid in from Colorado who

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Speaker 2: right didn't do really well. They got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: punch and Judy kit hitters in that lineup, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe he'll go somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the report says Detroit, Houston and back to

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Speaker 3: the Red Sox of the three the top options right

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Speaker 3: now for Bregman. But this wasn't a surprise, like you said,

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Speaker 3: This was how this deal was structured every year had

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Speaker 3: n opted out after it, so hardly a surprise. But

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Speaker 3: I hope he's back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I do as well, although you can see

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Speaker 2: him going back to Houston as well. He's a new

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Speaker 2: Mexico guy and so he'd be a little closer to

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Speaker 2: what is for him his home. So anyway, always great

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Speaker 2: to talk to you, Dan, love talking sports. How about

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Speaker 2: those Patriots first place in the ANC East.

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Speaker 3: I know it's unbelievable, but it's awesome. It is a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun to watch, and would love to chat

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Speaker 3: a little more about the Pats with you sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Dan Watkins. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for jumping in,

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Speaker 2: Dani Wison Jereff, you are still there. Okay, we are

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the federal government shutdown. It's been

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Speaker 2: shut down now for two weeks. It starts a week

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Speaker 2: three tomorrow. This could go for a while, and I've

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of folks here who apparently want to

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Speaker 2: jump on board and talk about which is great, So

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Speaker 2: I'm going to just give you the quick rundown. The

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Speaker 2: Democrats are basically saying, hey, look there's a bunch of

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Speaker 2: tax credits which they voted to sunset, by the way,

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Speaker 2: which will make which are expiring, and those expiring tax credits,

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Speaker 2: if they're not restored, that's going to cause a jump

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Speaker 2: benefit to the insurance companies, not a benefit to the

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Speaker 2: millions of Americans who are receiving the Affordable Care Act

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Speaker 2: through the program. They also are concerned about some of

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Speaker 2: Trump's the Republican cuts to Medicaid, which is a government program,

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Speaker 2: of course that benefits millions of people, low income people,

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Speaker 2: elderly people, disabled people, maybe even people who are not

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Speaker 2: here legally. The Democrats are inherently also opposed to spending cuts,

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Speaker 2: some of which the TRP administration now is going to

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Speaker 2: take advantage of to do unilaterally. We'll get to all

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Speaker 2: of that. The Republicans say, look, let's have a conversation.

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Speaker 2: They've presented a what they call a clean resolution, a

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Speaker 2: stop gap, which would have given them the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: twenty first, and the basically the Democrats are saying, no,

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Speaker 2: concede on ABC and D. No, it's not the way

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Speaker 2: it normally goes. And I think that whatever your position

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Speaker 2: of it is. That's for sure, we do have a

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Speaker 2: government that's now about thirty seven soon to be thirty

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Speaker 2: eight trillion dollars in debt. I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: unless you cut back some programs, or tax tax everybody,

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Speaker 2: then the Democrats would tax you know. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: the billionaires. That's not going to deal with the federal debt.

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Speaker 2: the truth. But anyway, it's a typical classic argument Democrats

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Speaker 2: you look at someone like Chuck Grassley who's ninety years old,

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Speaker 2: or Chuck Schumer, who's the leader of the Democrats, you

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Speaker 2: realize that he's been there a long time, and the

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Speaker 2: Democrats were there a long time. They're concerned about someone

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Speaker 2: coming up from their left flank. So it's it's a

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Speaker 2: system of government that we have and they need to

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Speaker 2: work for the American people. You can't get a bill

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Speaker 2: passed which would prevent members of Congress from engaging in

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Speaker 2: seen some examples of some members of Congress doing really

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Speaker 2: well in the stock market ironically, So that's what we're

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Speaker 2: talking about. Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty, six

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Speaker 2: change anybody. If you are directly impacted by the shutdown,

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Speaker 2: love to hear from you. President Trump apparently is trying

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Speaker 2: to find money to pay the military at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Today he's criticized for giving twenty billion dollars to Argentina.

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Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, you can't do everything, but I

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Speaker 2: certainly want to see the payment for the military prioritized.

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Speaker 2: What broke the last shut down, ironically, from what I understand,

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Speaker 2: it was when the air traffic control has started to

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Speaker 2: call in have the blue flu, call in sick. So

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Speaker 2: we've got lots of issues to talk about here, and

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Speaker 2: we go in any way you want. I've got two

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Speaker 2: then we'll do something else at at eleven. But let's

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Speaker 2: kick let's get it going. We'll kick it off right

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Speaker 2: after the break here on night Side. Only one line

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Speaker 2: right now, six thirty. If you're impacted directly by it,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. Make your case, make

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Speaker 2: your point, Love to know what how this is adversely

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Speaker 2: impacting you. Social Security payments are being paid. There are

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Speaker 2: some people who are losing their jobs, which is unfortunate,

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Speaker 2: but you know, people lose their jobs in the private sect.

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Speaker 2: He frequently as well. It's it's an interesting argument, and

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Speaker 2: you every once in a while. Coming back on Nightside after.

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Speaker 4: This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news RADIOFORI.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phone. It's gonna go to Will

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Speaker 2: on Long Island, one of my favorite callers. But Will,

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Speaker 2: let's have a conversation, buddy, go right ahead.

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Speaker 5: We can have a conversation about this. There is no

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Speaker 5: clear line here for me on this. It's gonna be

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Speaker 5: hard to be in the middle with me on this one.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm in the middle, I can see both sides

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Speaker 5: of this. My wife has a pretty, you know, good

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Speaker 5: She's somewhat essential. But people are being fired all around her,

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Speaker 5: and it's hard to watch that. It's hard to watch

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Speaker 5: people be unable to pay their bills or take care

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Speaker 5: of their children. Right. These are people that entrusted their

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Speaker 5: see that side. I can also see why the Democrats

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Speaker 5: are fighting for some of the things they're fighting for.

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Speaker 5: But if you look at some of the other ridiculous

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Speaker 5: work requirements for able bodied people that are on Medicaid,

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Speaker 5: especially younger ones. I mean that's absurd. Okay, Well, here's the.

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Speaker 2: The problem is with you know, with all due consideration

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Speaker 2: to every employee, when when companies close shop or move

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Speaker 2: But when government employees, you know, is there is there

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Speaker 2: waste in government? I suspect there probably is. How do

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Speaker 2: we get the the federal debt down from where it is?

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Speaker 2: You have talked about that before. You know how much

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Speaker 2: it is? Thirty seven thirty eight trillion dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's going to have to be some cuts somewhere. I

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Speaker 2: hope your wife is not one of the cuts.

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Speaker 5: And I mean that's you know, listen, I'm also very

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Speaker 5: aware of when I voted for Trump and my wife

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Speaker 5: voted from more than me. Actually, she actually wanted to

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Speaker 5: vote for Trump. I'm almost like a I mean, and

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Speaker 5: we've had this discussion before. It's like a choice between

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Speaker 5: I'll take the foot, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 5: look at it like, you know, listen, there's gonna be

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Speaker 5: some damage and repercussions from this, I think mostly for

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Speaker 5: the Democrats to see a lot of federal workers are Democrats,

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Speaker 5: you know, not my wife in particular, but a lot

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Speaker 5: of them are. And you are really hurting your constituents

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Speaker 5: for especially when there was a clean bill appropriations bill

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Speaker 2: Yes, what they call a clean resolution and basically let's

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Speaker 2: keep talking about it, okay.

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Speaker 5: By the same levels that were already there and didn't

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Speaker 5: have any of the poison pill cuts that the Republicans

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Speaker 2: Right, But the Democrats said, we won't sit down and

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Speaker 2: need sixty votes in the Senate too. Well, they don't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was going to bring that up. Actually

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Speaker 5: where I am here in New York, you have Hakeem

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Speaker 5: Jeffries just like saying these ridiculous, absurd things because the

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Speaker 5: only people that maybe are dumber than people like Ocassio

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Speaker 5: Cortez are her constituents.

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Speaker 6: When they say.

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Speaker 5: Things like oh, well, you know they have the majority

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Speaker 5: in the House and the Senate, they haven't put anything forward.

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Speaker 5: That's because we know about the sixty votes for cloture.

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Speaker 6: We know.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to sit there and listen to Corey

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Speaker 5: book or read out of a phone book again, and

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Speaker 5: guess what, it's more exhilarating than when he talks politics. Actually,

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Speaker 5: I think that actually, rather listen to Corey Booker read

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Speaker 5: from the phone book and act all right, Dan, well,

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Speaker 5: so where do you.

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Speaker 2: Come down with I mean, obviously you're conflicted, and you're

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Speaker 2: personally conflicted here.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the only thing that makes the conflict.

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Speaker 5: I think my personal and I try to put my

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Speaker 2: I think we can agree with this. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: propose a disagreement that if we were the sixtieth senator.

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Speaker 2: If we were Democratic senator and they were fifty nine senators,

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Speaker 2: I would vote to pass the CR what they call,

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Speaker 2: you know, clean resolution and extend conversation from six weeks

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Speaker 2: seven weeks or whatever, and then the pressure will build

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Speaker 2: again and through that conversation there'll be some form of compromise.

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Speaker 2: That's what politics is all about. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that there aren't

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Speaker 2: Have what's your description of a little more if you

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Speaker 5: We have to go play some golf. I'm coming out

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Speaker 6: You let me.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to play golf with me, you're taking

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Speaker 2: a Let get your insurance, your life insurance contract up

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Speaker 5: Well we buddy, I'll talk.

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Speaker 2: There comes the news at the bottom of the row.

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Speaker 2: William from Baltimore is coming up. Jim in Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Let's all gonna go to jim in

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Speaker 2: Kansas City. Jimmy, you were next on NICs side.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back and thanks. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: I can hear you.

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Speaker 6: Fine, go right ahead, Okay, let me take you off

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Speaker 2: That's always a good thing, yep.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all right. Well, I don't have any facts to

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Speaker 2: I think that they're doing that with their ice actions. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's the key to it either,

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Speaker 2: I just don't know why they didn't four weeks two

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Speaker 6: You want to have a conversation. That's why.

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Speaker 8: The reason you think that is because that's what the

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Speaker 2: How much do you think tech how much do you

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's that's a red state.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't put them outside the Roman possibility, but

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Speaker 6: Deal they're They're they're trying to get support from the

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Speaker 2: Let me go to William in Baltimore. William and Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir, I'm going there, William Nice here you.

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Speaker 7: And I had experience with working with a federal agency.

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Speaker 7: Well you said that the private people in private industry

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Speaker 7: uh actually picked the stuff you put in it for

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Speaker 7: the printer. But anyway, I did that the printer.

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Speaker 2: Let me help you out, boy, you were talking about

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Speaker 2: printer ink and paper right right.

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Speaker 7: Grip with stuff you put in there. We took to

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Speaker 7: the had the interest to put in there for that

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Speaker 7: We had the contract because of that right. And I

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Speaker 7: worked down there for seven years, commuted thirty five miles

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Speaker 7: equated on the on the commuter train. And I saw

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Speaker 7: a lot of families working there. I said, it's a

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Speaker 7: lot of nepotism there.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: It was the whole family down there. People you know,

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Speaker 7: really going a lot. They brought a lot of Look

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Speaker 7: they would sell like at the end of the f

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Speaker 7: school year, they would get rid of this perfectly good

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Speaker 7: furniture and perfectly good computers and send it to a

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Speaker 7: warehouse and sell it and buy all these computers and furniture.

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Speaker 2: A lot of waste.

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Speaker 7: Yes, my niece is a federal Parole and probation officer

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Speaker 7: right now, four children and street married and she's working

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Speaker 7: without play right now. But all I'm saying is that

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Speaker 7: I was laid a few times in my life, man,

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Speaker 7: and I had to go get up for me. I

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Speaker 7: just catch here what I had to take care of.

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Speaker 7: And uh, you know in feral, these people down there

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Speaker 7: used to tell me all the time, I'm a civil server.

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Speaker 7: We don't ever get laid though, you know, we can't

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Speaker 7: even just fired and stuff. And I was like, oh really,

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Speaker 7: you know, I was like, okay, you know, that's cool,

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Speaker 7: I said, But I know when I when I got hired,

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Speaker 7: the first paragraph in the handbook was that you and

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Speaker 7: that will employed, you know, And I was listening to

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Speaker 7: you about the about the calculator. Here in Maryland it's

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Speaker 7: two point five, right, so you know Maryland is very high.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: I didn't vote for governor More, I didn't vote for

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Speaker 7: the mayor Brandon Scott. Uh, but I feel like this, well,

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Speaker 7: my heart goes out to people. But people get laid

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Speaker 7: off every day, you know, and you just have to

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Speaker 7: make away. I did it, and uh, I just feel

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Speaker 7: that people have to make away. You know, nothing is guaranteed.

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Speaker 7: My niece she has a master's Degunie, so she's up

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Speaker 7: educating people. So uh I think they'll make oud okay,

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Speaker 7: you know, not being hot for him.

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Speaker 2: There, you know, No, no, I I no, I totally

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Speaker 2: get it, and I'm not trying to be unsympathetic. But

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Speaker 2: the problem for me, the conundrum is we have a

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Speaker 2: federal government which has spent a lot of money both

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Speaker 2: for Republicans under Republican and democratic administrations, under Republican congresses

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Speaker 2: and Democratic congresses. And right now we all about thirty

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Speaker 2: eight trillion dollars. I you know, the next generations are

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Speaker 2: going to have to deal with that because our GDP

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Speaker 2: is only about twenty eight trillion dollars. And you know,

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Speaker 2: in the old days, when the federal debt exceeded the GDP,

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Speaker 2: that was that was Banana Republic time, if you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And h and now, how are we

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Speaker 2: going to deal with that? And I don't want hurt

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Speaker 2: people or anything like that, but I would hope that

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Speaker 2: that somehow we could privatize a lot of the agencies

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Speaker 2: that we currently have and keep people working. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to throw people out on the street,

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Speaker 2: but put them in a situation where they're not being

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Speaker 2: paid by the federal government. You turn an agency almost

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Speaker 2: into a private into a private company, and that might

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Speaker 2: be one way in which we can reduce that that

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Speaker 2: federal debt. I mean, we need more people working in

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Speaker 2: private industry and fewer people working for federal government and

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Speaker 2: fewer people, you know, receiving benefits. We also have an

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Speaker 2: aging population, so social Security. We're going to run into

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Speaker 2: a problem with soci security at some point because we

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Speaker 2: have fewer and fewer people, you know, paying into Social

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Speaker 2: Security and more and more people, including me, taken from

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Speaker 2: Social Security.

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Speaker 7: I'm there and someone to slipped my mind. But anyway, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: but thank you dad, I'm cut.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just got one question for your for you, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what are the Ravens gonna do for quarterback? Now?

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Speaker 7: Oh god, these people have Actually, you know, I feel

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Speaker 7: for the but I'm really I like Kansas City, you know,

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Speaker 7: so people get angry with me about that.

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Speaker 2: But the Chiefs, the Chiefs and now America's team. You

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Speaker 2: and I rolled it up for him when Dallas was

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Speaker 2: Americans team. Not anymore.

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Speaker 7: It's the Chiefs, right, that's right, but it's real bad.

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Speaker 2: Well they like the Patriots for a while, but then

519
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Speaker 2: when the Patriots who win, a lot of people didn't

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Speaker 2: like them. So you know they were going to root

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs this year, that's for sure. You know,

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Speaker 2: you got the Taylor Swift thing and going on everything.

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Speaker 7: You know, I like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: My home seems like a great kid. His dad was

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Speaker 2: a major league pitcher. You know that, right?

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Speaker 7: Oh no, yeah, yeah, no, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know that pitch for the pitch for the Red Sox

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Speaker 2: one season. Yeah, Patrick, show.

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Speaker 7: Him when he was a kid, when he I'm talking

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Speaker 7: about Pastick, when he's a kid. He said, they got

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Speaker 7: a pistol of him playing baseball. He was in a

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Speaker 7: little lead, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get pictures of him with Derek Jeter when

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Speaker 2: you know when Jeter his dad made sure he got

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Speaker 2: to meet Derek Jeter and all that. It's it's a

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Speaker 2: good story. I like him. He seems like a decent kid,

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Speaker 2: levelheaded guy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: William, thanks man.

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Speaker 7: I don't hear a lot about them, you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: So thank thanks.

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Speaker 2: Thanks William, Talk soon, Okay, I have a go on

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Speaker 2: six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six one seven, nine, three,

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Speaker 2: one ten thirty. Let's fill these fill these lines up.

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Speaker 2: If you're impacted by the federal government shut down, I'd

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Speaker 2: like to hear from you if you feel, uh that

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Speaker 2: you have a solution to how to solve this. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that it's it's it will be solved in

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Speaker 2: some form of fashion by the Democrats and the Republicans,

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Speaker 2: but I think eventually the public is going to have

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Speaker 2: to put some pressure on both parties to to somehow compromise,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure either one of them want to compromise.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on nightside. I have open lines. Let's

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Speaker 2: have that at six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,

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Speaker 2: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Coming right

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Speaker 2: back on nightside.

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Speaker 4: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's

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Speaker 4: news radio.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go the only lines opener

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Speaker 2: of six one, seven, nine three, one ten thirty. Let

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Speaker 2: me go to Matt and Franklin. Hey, Matt, next on nightside,

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Speaker 2: go right ahead.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So I regrets that I'm personally affected, Uh, I

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Speaker 9: work for the government. I've worked there a while, and uh,

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Speaker 9: I get we're in a.

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Speaker 7: Budget deficit and everything.

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Speaker 9: But to be completely honest, a quarter of that is

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Speaker 9: Trump and it's growing and what.

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Speaker 2: Do you mean A whoa wha, wha wha, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean?

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Speaker 9: A quarter of this Trump The quarter of the debt

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Speaker 9: is from Donald Trump's presidency, from both terms. And it

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Speaker 9: seems to be that where we can talk about all

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Speaker 9: this money like, oh, we're gonna cut this cut that

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Speaker 9: it seems to be more to punish the state, certain

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Speaker 9: states and populations that actually solve the problem. And as

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Speaker 9: an employee of the government, when you lay someone off,

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Speaker 9: it's not like the check stops. So you get your

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Speaker 9: sixty days to appeal it. So then it goes to

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Speaker 9: a judge. The judge might say, oh, we got to

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Speaker 9: review this, so then you're an administrative paid time off.

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Speaker 9: And then when they finally do pull the trigger and

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Speaker 9: sever you, you get severed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Of however, whatever your age is. So it's like you

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Speaker 9: might be is that the way.

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Speaker 2: Is that the way it works in the private sector.

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Speaker 9: The private sector is a private sector, and then the

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Speaker 9: private sector doesn't completely screw with the employees. For a

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Speaker 9: whole year telling them we're gonna get rid of you,

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Speaker 9: and then have people calling out sick for an entire

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Speaker 9: month or in a sick time because you don't get it.

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Speaker 9: Re embarrassed. I get the private sector that has layoffs

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Speaker 9: all the time. But then again, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, when the private sector has a problem and

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Speaker 2: they decide to lay off a bunch of people, they

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Speaker 2: don't take a year to lay them off. They do

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Speaker 2: it when they wanted. Okay.

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Speaker 9: Also, yeah, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, your number on Trump, your

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Speaker 2: number on Trump is a little off. Okay. Uh, he

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Speaker 2: had some Uh he certainly spent money in his first term.

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Speaker 2: You're correct on that, and he has spent some money

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Speaker 2: on this term.

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Speaker 9: But he's only here to trill.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know if you tell me what the

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Speaker 2: future is gonna hold. Okay. The bottom line is every

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Speaker 2: one of them from Ronald Reagan from you know, literally

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Speaker 2: going back even further than that, when I the the

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Speaker 2: numbers were when when George Bush forty one, when Bill

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Speaker 2: Clinton left, Okay, Bill Clinton actually had done a pretty job.

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Speaker 2: You know what the fidal debt was when Bill Clinton

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Speaker 2: left in two thousand and either a.

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Speaker 9: Trillion or five trillion. I think it's brought up over

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Speaker 9: the past the beliefs.

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Speaker 2: It's five five trillion. So when when George Bush spent

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Speaker 2: eight years there and he left, you know what it.

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Speaker 9: Was, It was ten trillion, trillion trillion. Then it went up, Then.

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Speaker 2: It went up with Biden, then it went up with Trump,

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Speaker 2: then it went up with Biden. So it's gone up

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Speaker 2: with all of them. So my question is, how do

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Speaker 2: we pay that off or do we never pay it off?

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Speaker 2: Who pays that off?

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Speaker 9: We're eventually going to have to do the cuts and

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Speaker 9: pay it off. But I think a lot of it

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Speaker 9: to go back to, like what my original point when

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Speaker 9: this whole thing was is the Democrats want the healthcare

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Speaker 9: for all and everything. The Republicans want seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: You know who really wants the healthcare for all? Who really? Who?

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Speaker 2: Who's who's the big beneficiary of that at the dirty

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Speaker 2: little secret sin Sure companies?

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Speaker 9: Okay, So what I what I wanted to say is, Mike,

633
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Speaker 9: they've had the same continuing resolution since twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 9: Mike Johnson has worked twenty one days since July first.

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Speaker 9: They barely passed the Big Beautiful bill with a simple majority.

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Speaker 9: So to come out and say take all that time

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Speaker 9: off and then say, you know what, give me seven

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Speaker 9: more weeks. All that's going to accomplish is in seven weeks,

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Speaker 9: we're gonna need another seven weeks. And just from what.

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Speaker 2: Necessarily I mean that you you can have that opinion,

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Speaker 2: but that's not necessarily The idea of the seven weeks

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Speaker 2: is everything says the same people in the federal government

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Speaker 2: get paid. There's no interruption, there's no increase, but everything stays.

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Speaker 9: Interruption because they're only planning for seven weeks at a time.

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Speaker 2: No, but the point is that there's an interruption. Now, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So if the if the continuing resolution, the clean resolution,

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Speaker 2: had passed, no increase, no cuts, nothing, you would then

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Speaker 2: have seven weeks and guess what, Uh, the pressure would

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Speaker 2: build again That's what's happened in the past. You know again, Uh,

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Speaker 2: if the Democrats do do me this, favorite Matt, here's

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Speaker 2: my question. The Democrats said, we will not vote for

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Speaker 2: a clean resolution, we will not continue it unless you

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Speaker 2: uh concede and capitulate on medicaid uh and and all

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Speaker 2: of the all of the things that we're concerned about.

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Speaker 2: In order for us to go back to negotiate with you.

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Speaker 2: You have to give in on health insurance on Obamacare.

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Speaker 9: They also need to talk to each other and need

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Speaker 9: seven seven Democrats to agree on it. And like three,

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Speaker 9: I think three or four weeks ago, Trump said, I

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Speaker 9: don't even care if what the mass says. Don't talk

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Speaker 9: to them, and they haven't talked to them. Mike Johnson

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Speaker 9: simply listens to Trump, who has listened to Russell Vott

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Speaker 9: and Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 2: And Okay, you got your talking points down, Matt, and

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Speaker 2: and and you got him.

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Speaker 9: Man, that's y.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. Se So Matt who had five minutes and

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Speaker 2: forty seconds, uh and basically wanted to have a conversation

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Speaker 2: with him. Next time you call Matt, I'll give you

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Speaker 2: two minutes. You can just talk, say whatever you want. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I won't even discuss it with you. Man, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you Matt is what you call an open minded Democrat.

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Speaker 2: He works for the federal government. You know what his

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Speaker 2: concern is. His concern is his job, which is fine.

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Speaker 2: But I just asked questions and I'm looking for some answers.

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Speaker 2: That's all. I was hoping he could educate me, but

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Speaker 2: I guess not. Maybe he could swim Bob and rain him.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Bob, Bob, Bob, welcome. Matt decided to leave

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Speaker 2: a little early. Had I hope you caught the swear

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Speaker 2: that he got in there by the way, Bob, I

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Speaker 2: know you had to listen to swear. Oh offended deeply.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've never heard such language before in your life.

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, I haven't.

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Speaker 10: But anyway, and so I've worked for I don't know,

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Speaker 10: I guess a branch of the federal government. And I've

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Speaker 10: also worked for the defense industry and so and for

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Speaker 10: the last I'm going to say, thirty years, I have

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Speaker 10: never heard a politician say, you know, things are getting tight.

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Speaker 10: We got to tighten the belts. You know, we're running

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Speaker 10: the deficit. I mean, it just keeps going on and

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Speaker 10: on and on, and you know, someone in it looks

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Speaker 10: like it's going to be President Trump has to make

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Speaker 10: a stand and say, you know, we we gotta you know,

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Speaker 10: it's it's criminal and it's disgusting that we're going to

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Speaker 10: push us off on our children and grandchildren. And I mean,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's some point. I mean, something has to give.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I mean, we just can't keep giving ourselves

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Speaker 10: raises I mean, I think I've been paying attention to

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Speaker 10: this for like, I don't know, thirty thirty five years now,

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Speaker 10: and I think when I first started paying attention to it,

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Speaker 10: and I'm going to stick to the state of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 10: I think the budget of Massachusetts was like nine billion

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Speaker 10: dollars dollars when I first started paying attention, and now whatever,

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Speaker 10: thirty two years later, it's sixty two billions. I mean, how, how, how,

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Speaker 10: how does how is this sustainable? I mean when does

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Speaker 10: someone finally say, you know, we get a we get

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Speaker 10: to tighten the belt. And I mean, I know there's

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Speaker 10: unions involved now and they'll never take a pay cad

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Speaker 10: and there's I mean, there's plenty of people that are

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Speaker 10: on the payrolls that really do next to nothing. And

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Speaker 10: I mean I've been in the game. I've seen it.

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Speaker 10: And I mean, I mean, when do we start thinking

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Speaker 10: about our kids? And I drank it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we got we should have started thinking

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Speaker 2: about them about twenty years ago, so we got to

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Speaker 2: start thinking as soon as possible. Hey, Bob, I'm flat

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Speaker 2: up against the eleven. I gotta let you run. But

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for bringing a note of sanity

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Speaker 2: to the conversation and we had a nice conversation. You

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Speaker 2: got everything in in about two and a half minutes

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Speaker 2: and you didn't even swear at me. That's good. Thanks, Bob,

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Speaker 2: talk soon, have a great night. We're going to continue

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Speaker 2: with this into the next hour, and I hope whatever

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Speaker 2: your point of view is, let's have at it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we can have a conversation and we don't have to

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Speaker 2: scream and yell and have a conversations. That's what night

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Speaker 2: Side's all about. If you get frustrated with a conversation,

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Speaker 2: I can't help you, but you know I'll let you

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Speaker 2: say whatever you want to say and then I'll ask

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Speaker 2: you questions. Is as simple as that. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: in night Side right after the eleven o'clock news