1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: This is You're the China Syndrome Leader fan Fan Radio 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Network and k fa N dot com. Two minutes one 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: second past the hour of three o'clock Central Standard time, 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the a Monday edition of the Bumper 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: to Bumpert program on Almost ball Me weekday afternoon here 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: in the Twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. My 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: name is Dan Barrera. I'm the occasional host of the 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: program about to be taking some good solid holiday time 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: off Guardzy Is I think has already landed Arizona Way. 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: He is tracking the Golden Gophers who are involved in 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: yet another an endless series of meaningless bowl games. And 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: that means our good friend Sam Byrd is kind enough 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: to join us. Nice to see it, yeahs having me 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I make a mission unlike common I like brightness in here, 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: but the downside of brightness is because of the reflection, 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I can barely see you in that. I think I 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: get an outline of you, I'm pretty sure. But we 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you helping us out on a busy day because 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: obviously schedules are tough. Right now, Oh that's much better, 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: But that's that might be too bright for you. It's okay, 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: I can you can handle that, You'll be okay? All right? Well, welcome, 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: good to have you, and we're looking forward to a 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: very good broadcast between now and I think we're going 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: the distance today till six thirty. In any case, we do. 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: We are not going to get a Minnesota Viking player 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: this week. Obviously it was Adam THELN for most of 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the season. Then he asked to be cut and was 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: and went to Carolina, probably not regretting that move given 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Carolina is now in position to win a division. In addition, 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: there was hope. We've had a couple of other players 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: since Thelm Feeling bailed, but we're not going to get 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: a player this week. What they're calling a short week 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: at TCO Performance Center. So no Vikings player today. Johnny 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: Athletic is confirmed for four h two today, so in 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: about one hour. In addition, Ben Lieber, Monday regular, will 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: join at four forty seven. We have several Vikings talking 37 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: points that we will make part of the broadcast, as 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: is customary the day after Vikings games, and a number 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: of you have asked for well, a cold call conversation 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: with Gerby in the wake of what happened to his 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers in Chicago, Illinois, Saturday night. Stay tuned. 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: We are making some effort to try to pull that off. 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: That's complicated. We got to find out, try to find 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: out where he is about him knowing it. But we'll 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: see if we can get gerby going today. There's a 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of Vikings fans who reminded me yesterday on sermons 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: that the schadenfreud a level is very high for Vikings 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: fans when the Green Bay Packers lose. So we'll try 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: to include that into the discussion as well. I don't 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: know how many excuse me I said Carolina. He had 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: been Carolina previously. He's a Steeler now. He probably doesn't 52 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: feel bad about that either, come to think of it, 53 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: given the fact that the Pittsburgh Steelers had a very 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: nice game yesterday, although I don't know if he was 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: much of a factor in yesterday's ball game. How quickly 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: we forget, yes, Carolina before the Vikings now a rage 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: and the Steelers after the fact. How many of you 58 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: in the audience if I use the term China syndrome, 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: or in this case, technically I kind of cheated, it's 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: China doll syndrome. How many of you in the audience 61 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: are old enough to understand the reference as it pertains 62 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: to Minnesota Vikings football. I'm guessing I don't think it's 63 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: much higher than that, but I might be wrong. I've 64 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: been wrong before, and it's on my mind that expression 65 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: that goes back, I believe, all the way till to 66 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven in Vikings history, so almost twenty 67 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: years ago. And if those of you who do recall, 68 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: might note that it was Brad Childress, the Vikings head 69 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: coach at the time, was attempting to discuss and mull 70 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: over the health and or durability of a Vikings quarterback 71 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: named Tavaris Jackson. And at the time, this is what 72 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Childress said. You ask yourself, is this just one particularly 73 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: bad year? Is it the fact he is a China doll? 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: And at the time it became kind of, I don't know, 75 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: the talking point regarding that player. We discussed constantly, obviously 76 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: the durability of players, certainly football players and quarterbacks at 77 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the top of that list, and it was kind of 78 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: a new way, a new term that I don't think 79 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: most of us at her associated with the position. Once again, 80 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: I think it's relevant and now we ask the same 81 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: question of JJ McCarthy. Is he a China Dog. It's 82 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: an important question, a crucial question that the Vikings are 83 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: going to have to try to answer as they make 84 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: a number of decisions this offseason on what they're going 85 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: to do moving forward at the quarterback position. Because he's 86 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: out again, I don't know that there's been anything official 87 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: or that there will be anything official today about his 88 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: status or about how long he might be out. It's 89 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: possible he's done for the season. There's only two games left. 90 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: The X rays allegedly were negative on whatever was going 91 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: on on his hand. He looked like when trainer Guy 92 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: touched the sensitive area, he acted as if trainer Guy 93 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: had lopped off a finger. The video has made the rounds, 94 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: has become quite viral, but let's be honest. The game 95 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: itself is relatively meaningless. We can pretend it means a lot. 96 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: We can pretend that we're supposed to celebrate the fact 97 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: that the team isn't quitting. And I come from a 98 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: belief system that says we should not applaud, that we 99 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: should expect that from professional athletes, from professional players, in 100 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: this case representing the Minnesota Vikings. This is what they 101 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: should do, the fact that we've got to swoon. They 102 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: could they could have mailed it in. They could have 103 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: They didn't have to play. Aaron Jones didn't have to 104 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: keep going out there. I mean, come on, seriously, you 105 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to go back out there against the New 106 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: York bleeping Giants. It's one of the worst operations I've 107 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: seen in recent memory. They're awful. So let's be careful 108 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: about what kind of conclusions we want to draw over 109 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: winning our third game in a row in garbage time 110 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: of the season against probably the worst team in football, 111 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: certainly one of the very worst teams in football. But 112 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: we are evaluating actively the QB. I thought he, despite 113 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: what we're hearing from Koc, took a significant step back yesterday. 114 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: Don't text me about the drop passes. I know about 115 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: the drop passes. I'm well aware of the drop passes. 116 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: We'll get to that too as part of the Vikings 117 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: talking points. But in all honesty, I didn't think he 118 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: was as good as he had been the previous two weeks. 119 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: He got bailed out on a very questionable sides call, 120 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: then what would have been a pick six. He did 121 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: a terrible job getting rid of the ball at the 122 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: end of the half. That's the cardinal sin you're trying. 123 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: You're basically trying to run out the clock, or maybe 124 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: we're going to take one shot at it to just 125 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: see if we can get a chunk play and then 126 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: think about a field goal because we have the greatest 127 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: field goal kicker ever. And you not only can't hold 128 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: onto the ball, can't read what's happening, You get stripsacked, 129 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: ball gets picked up by a former goalfer I believe 130 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: score a touchdown. So I don't think he was there 131 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: was anything to write a home about his performance yesterday. 132 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: Do you have other plays that were nice? Yes? Was 133 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: the scramble into the end zone? They run good? Were 134 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: there a couple other very nice throws? Yes? But the 135 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: question I think today on JJ is China syndrome related 136 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: the larger question, regardless of what you think he is 137 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: doing to improve to start, since he hit that stretch 138 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: where he played as dreadfully as he did, so now 139 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: to me, the question is not just evaluating him, but 140 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: saying can he stay healthy in the National Football League? 141 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Is he a China doll? And if he is or 142 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: he can't, how many games has he played. Is it 143 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: eight and a half now? I think it's eight and 144 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: a half games out of Let's see what the totals 145 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: I have here somewhere. Let's just say this. Put it 146 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: this way. He has missed a lot more games than 147 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: he has played so far in the National Football League. 148 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: He has had now what is it, four different injuries 149 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: thus far. And I'm not saying any of the injuries 150 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: were not legit. They could well have been legit. But 151 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is he has well. As 152 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: Bud Grant says, the greatest ability is availability. He has 153 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: not been available enough. You could argue, he argues, has 154 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: not been available enough to evaluate fairly. There's something to that. 155 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: But there are players who forever, for whatever reason, can't 156 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: stay on the field, and that's troubling, and that's concerning. 157 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: So you can put me firmly in the camp that 158 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: is growing. I think in belief that even if you 159 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: think he's got a chance still to be a franchise quarterback, 160 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: you cannot afford to bring him back and hand him 161 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: the job again without if not meaningful competition, a meaningful 162 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterback who when you sign him, you tell him 163 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: there's a good chance you're going to play half the season, 164 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: or you have to be prepared to play half the season, 165 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: because we're not sure. As much as we like what 166 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy offers, what we think he can offer, we're 167 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: not sure he may just be one of those unlucky 168 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: guys who cannot stay on the field. So that is 169 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: what I come out of that game with that injury with, 170 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: even if it ends up being a relatively minor injury. 171 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: He's had too many in too many to just say 172 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: it's full speed ahead, we're going to hand him the job, 173 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: and we're in total agreement. We have full confidence that 174 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: if he just gets more games under his belt, he's 175 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: going to be fine. Too much China doll in him 176 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: right now, too breakable right now, too fragile right now. 177 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: That's not me saying he's soft. It's not me saying 178 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: again that he's not tough enough. It's me saying that 179 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: if you can't stee on the field, it's almost irrelevant 180 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: what you think you can do. And we all agreed, 181 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: I think right once the team was mathematically eliminated. Once 182 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: the team was mathematically eliminated, the only thing that mattered 183 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the way was to continue to throw 184 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: him out there and see what he might have, or 185 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: if not that, to just give him a chance to 186 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: gain some confidence, make some plays, and you do the 187 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: brick by brick thing right, you start trying to build 188 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: more of a quarterback foundation, and if you're fortunate, you 189 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: see enough promise that you say we're still on course. 190 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: It may be delayed a little bit, but this guy's 191 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: got the stuff. It's in him. Again, whether you believe 192 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: that or not, it's irrelevant if he cannot stay out 193 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: there on the field. So threading this needle aint going 194 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: to be easy, because it's easy to say, well, get 195 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's good enough to compete and good enough 196 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: to play as almost a quasi starter, but don't give 197 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: up the farm for him. Those quarterbacks don't grow on trees, right, 198 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: There's not that many of them out there. Who's the 199 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: right one who fits that classification? None of that is easy, 200 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: but I think absolutely it has to be part of 201 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: the conversation for the Vikings going forward. Four injuries in 202 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: this short of a period of time two years, that's 203 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: just not going to work. Brat Sewan Brian kfan text 204 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: line is six four six eight six six four six 205 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: eight six. A lot of texts are coming in about 206 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: the drop passes. I have very strong opinions, a very 207 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: strong opinion that not all drop passes are equal. And 208 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: we're going to get to that when we come back, 209 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: as I said, talking points, and Johnny Athletic will weigh 210 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: in on what he saw yesterday. We'll get some wolf 211 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: stuff from him as well, and who knows what else. 212 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Let's take our first pause back in a minute here 213 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: in the fan. Now, we're gonna try something here. This 214 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: is on the fly. This is like what we in 215 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: the business call seat of the pants radio to attempt to, 216 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: as we say in the business, cold call Carl Gerschmidt, Hello, Hello, 217 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: May you speak to Caleb Williams please. I don't think 218 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: we got through. We must have a phone system problem here. 219 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Not good. Hmmm, well we'll try again later. The the 220 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: request was made by several people to contact Gerby for 221 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: all the obvious reasons, but that didn't that time. It 222 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: did not work out all that well, we may try 223 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: again a little bit later. Let me give you an 224 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: example of what we're dealing with here regarding the quarterback play. 225 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find the text in 226 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: question strip sick injury. No, that's not the one. Where 227 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: did it go? Would you bring in as a quarterback 228 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: and bring it as a backup for competition with jj O? 229 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: Here is here's the one I was looking for. You 230 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: are funny saying I know about the drops. I know 231 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: about the drops. Then in the same sentence, say he 232 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: got bailed out from an all sides calling what would 233 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: have been what would have been a pick six? That 234 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: ball bounced off of Naylor's hands. That ball was a 235 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: terribly thrown pass. It's an example of the lack of 236 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: touch that he has yet to develop. Now it can 237 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: be developed. We've seen quarterbacks figure that out over time. 238 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: But if you watched that play and the only conclusion 239 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: you draw is Eric Naylor again off his hands, I 240 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, man that that throw 241 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: was on a string. That was not a good throw. 242 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: And he still has I'll even argue the one that 243 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: ended up holding up as an interception, but that pass 244 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: was behind was not really thrown all that well either. 245 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: The one I'll give him was what should have been 246 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: a touchdown on the first drive under pressure. That was 247 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: a hell of a good throw. That was a drop. 248 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: And we're going to get to all those via Vikings 249 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: talking points. But I just I don't understand how. I mean, 250 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: if you watch football for longer than fifteen minutes, you 251 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: can't see sometimes that the trajectory of the ball, the 252 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: speed with which the ball is coming in, often have 253 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: something to do with the difficulties that a receiver has. 254 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: There's quarterbacks who throw good balls, and there's quarterbacks who 255 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: throw bad ones. He throws a lot of bad balls, 256 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: tough to catch. Throws that again, in a perfect world, 257 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: the receivers are paid a lot of money and you 258 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: can go in and get you go ahead and you 259 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: make the play. But they're not as easy as they 260 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: should be. They're not as effortless as they should be. 261 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: And I think also you're kind of missing the point. 262 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: The point isn't it's almost a different subject. The subject 263 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: today is China syndrome. To be honest, It's more, even 264 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: if you love him, are you starting to get concerned 265 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: that he has been unable for now four different reasons 266 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: to stay on the field. At some point do you go, well, 267 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: that's a little on the disconcerting side. I guess you 268 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: could say a little bit on the difficult side. And 269 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: that's the part that I think has to be the 270 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: event part of the evaluation process for your favorite football team, 271 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: and maybe they'll decide not. We still see enough. We 272 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: just think he's been unlucky. Been other players earlier in 273 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: their careers who have been rather unlucky. Vikings have had 274 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: some of them, including Robert Smith. But if we all 275 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: agree that he needs playing time more than anything else, 276 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: he needs reps more than anything else, then you have 277 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: to be a bit concerned at the inability to stay 278 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: on the field for any extended period of time. Two 279 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: seasons in which he's missed most of both of them, 280 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: and even this season it's been up, it's been down. 281 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm still not convinced it made any sense that he 282 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: missed as much time as he did with the original 283 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: injury this year as well. That's what this was when 284 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: they were in Europe. So a lot of good texts 285 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: are coming in via the Bradshawn Brian Caffean text line, 286 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get I'm gonna review some of them. 287 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: As I said, talking points we've got Johnny Athletic is 288 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: coming up at probably four h two, and then Libra 289 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: will do this be with us in the four o'clock hour. Man, 290 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: it was I thought that was one of the first 291 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: times this season I said to myself, that's a chore 292 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: to watch that ball game. And part of that, a 293 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: lot of that had to do with the Giants, who 294 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: you know. You know me, I'm the guy who wants 295 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: to run the ball. But even I was offended by 296 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: how little the Giants seemed interested or capable of throwing 297 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: the ball at all. What did it take was did 298 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: they run? It was at fifteen straight times. It was embarrassing. 299 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that look didn't even strike me as being 300 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: a professional operation, speaking of trying to find out what 301 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: your team has. You know, there was some comments a 302 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that Russell Wilson was bitter, like 303 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: he didn't really know why he got benched. Russell Wilson's 304 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: been his own worst enemy. But after watching what the 305 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Giants did at the quarterback position yesterday and the way 306 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: they use it quarterback, I don't blame Russell Wilson at 307 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: all for going what I got bench for that. What's 308 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: exactly the point about of the hour break? Maybe we 309 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: take one more shot at Gerby if we can pull 310 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: this thing off. It's technologically very very difficult to get 311 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: him on the phone. We're gonna try it and then 312 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: we'll prepare for other controversies as well. Don't go away, 313 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: all right, bring that music down just a little bit. 314 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: It's a great day at the Wisconsin Department Transportation. Happy 315 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: holidays to Hill. 316 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: I help you, sir. I'm trying to make a reservation 317 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: at the Interactive Ice Bowl Bed and Breakfast and launch 318 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: forge mid January. 319 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't now well supposed to do this. What's your name? 320 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: The last name is Williams w I L L I 321 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: A M. S. The first name is Caleb. Hello, okay, 322 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: I know it's happening all right, man? 323 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Why are you doing this for? Not today? 324 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: People are why do you need to do? People are 325 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: worried about you? This is this is like could consider 326 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: this an intervention? Or maybe they do. They call it 327 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: like what wait, what are you? 328 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: What are you intervening for? 329 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: What? Well? I think when I was a little. 330 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: Kid, there's a pond. You're the fun and we would 331 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: go down and feed the ducks. I would feed them 332 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 2: out of the duck and the duck links and we 333 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: were feeding the ducks and one day it does snapping 334 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: turtle grab one the duck's a little duck things and 335 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: sucked the money one and the duck was going peep peep, peep, 336 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: peep peep in your mother was We couldn't do anything 337 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: about it. He didn't care under it. You're doing right now? 338 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: It is worse than that. Oh, you're doing now? It 339 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: is cool? 340 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, will you admit that you have to 341 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: do this? Will you admit that you were awfully cock 342 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: sure of yourself through much of that game? And it 343 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: looked like, I mean, you were mocking Bear the Bears. 344 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: You didn't. You don't have any problems mocking other people 345 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: when their feelings are hurt, especially Bears fans. 346 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Hurt. You had to push the ball out of bounce. 347 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: Oh you have to do if you can't catch, just push. 348 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: How did your guy not know that? 349 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. 350 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: Is that the worst loss you've had in the last 351 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: twenty five years? Yeah, it is like Seattle. You're right 352 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: about that. Is this gonna ruin your Christmas week? Is 353 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: this gonna ruin your Christmas week? 354 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: You think we're not gonna have a good Christmas? 355 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, a Texter is reminding me, isn't 356 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: it true? 357 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: We're not gonna have a good Christmas. Oh no, I 358 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: hope you can have a great Christmas. We're not gonna 359 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: have one. 360 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: You could still win the division, you know what I mean? 361 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: Do I have to tell you that you're the guy 362 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: who says you got to stay with your team. Sounds 363 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: like you've given up on your team. 364 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: My team. This is we lost to a rival in Minnesota, 365 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: or did try it? We lost to a rival. 366 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: Understand, you need to get a hold of yourself. Man, 367 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: you're a grown man. You you're eh, well, there it is. 368 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: That's good. That's about. That's actually more than I thought 369 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: we'd get out of him. I had. You never know, 370 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: like we got Rapper gurby Friday. Today, we got the 371 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: blubb the most the the the the blubbery or blubbering 372 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: version of Gurby the last time I remember him blubbering 373 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: quite like that. I think it was the Michael Vick 374 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: game when he was like in the parking lot. It 375 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: was like three in the morning. You could hear the beat, 376 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: beat beat of the garbage trucks basically trying to get 377 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: him out of the way so they could clear the garbage, 378 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't leave the parking lot. It was like 379 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: three in the morning, that after that playoff game where 380 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Michael Vick just kicked the Packers ass. That's the one. 381 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: That's that's the first time I've heard him quite that 382 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: forlorn since that that's a long time ago. I was 383 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna say, I remember, I remember listening to the show 384 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: back then. Yeah, I do remember exactly what you're referring to. 385 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, poor guy. Yeah, well, it's his effort 386 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: to elicit sympathy, and I'm not gonna give it to him, because, 387 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: like I said, he's he's he doesn't have it. On 388 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: the other side, he cackles when fans are devast Vikings 389 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: fans are devastated, or Bears fans are devastated, And let's 390 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: be honest, he's had so many highs the Green Bay Packers. 391 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: How is anyone possibly gonna feel sorry for Gerby? But 392 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got him at least a little at 393 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: least a little bit We've got we expect Johnny athletic. 394 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: At the top of the hour, let me get to 395 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: some texts, because there's a bunch that are indeed coming 396 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: in on Vikings giants in the quarterback situation. Hold on 397 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: a second, let me well Actually, here's a couple relating, uh, 398 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: reacting to Gerby. First, let's go to the top. Does 399 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: Gerby know that feeding Duckling's bread actually can kill them? 400 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: So the turtle is actually providing a mercy to his cruelty. 401 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: Wow tail Gerby will give them a good Christmas and 402 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: beat Detroit for him. Maybe, I don't know. Well, maybe 403 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: Detroit if about down and the Dumps say maybe they're 404 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: done after the Steelers knock them off, cheer up. Carl 405 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: uw falls to go to the D three National Championship 406 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: after winning forty eight forty one over JOHNS Hopkins on Saturday. 407 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's going to be enough. Gerby is 408 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: not enough of a college fan, I think to be 409 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: consoled by that kind of information or that kind of development. 410 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: I think the better similar of The China Syndrome with 411 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: aj Quarterback is that of the nineteen seventy nine movie 412 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: The China Syndrome starring Jane Fonda, Jack Lemon, not to 413 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: mention Michael Douglas. The movie's plot is that of a 414 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: cover up of a nuclear power plant leak threatening to 415 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: melt through the Earth's core. I eat all the Way 416 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: to China, China syndrome. I think the Vikings are similarly frightened, 417 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: too frightened to admit their mistake. That's second level thinking, 418 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: right there. Dan. Don't you think the Giants were strategically tanking. 419 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: They barely had dart throw at all. It felt that 420 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: way at times. There's no question about that, agree Dan. 421 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: When you have seventeen different quarterbacks throwing to these receivers, 422 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: they don't get a chance to understand that, Hey, maybe 423 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: JJ ball comes a little hotter, a little higher than 424 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: say Cousins or Darnel. So if you can't be in 425 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: the field to develop the tendency of the ball from 426 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: JJ or how he throws it, of course there are drops. 427 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: I hear the argument, well, they make a lot of money, 428 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: so they should make those catches. But I'm using a 429 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: case koc favorite time on a favorite time on task 430 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: is important. Nobody loves him. Referencing our young quarterback, Dan 431 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: writes Leon Muskat, there's a portion of us, granted, a 432 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: small percent. You recognize that you need to let JJ develop, 433 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: call the game of his capabilities in mind, and not 434 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: proclaim the kid a bust after four or five games. Yes, 435 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: the injuries are concerning, but you have to be patient 436 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: with a young quarterback. No one's disagreeing with that. I'm 437 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: telling you. For me, if I'm running the Vikings, I'm not. 438 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough and I have not seen him 439 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: on the field enough to where I'm just handing him 440 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: the ball, which is essentially what they did coming into 441 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: training camp this year. I'm not doing it. That's not 442 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: me saying he can't develop. That's me saying I got 443 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: to have a decent insurance policy. Man. Until he can 444 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: prove that whatever grievance he has with the injury, gods, 445 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna, you know, let up on them in the 446 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: seasons coming forward. That's the issue. We didn't have a 447 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: number one quarterback in twenty twenty four. I think we 448 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: had the best quarterback that was available to time SOCCA. 449 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: We had a number one pick and passed on Caleb 450 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: Williams for JJ McCarthy. Well, they could have had Nicks. 451 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't one of the group saying they should have 452 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: taken them. And Denver obviously at their best, the defense 453 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: largely carries that team. But he has stayed out there, 454 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: he's played a lot of games, and he's been much 455 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: better than I thought that he would be looking on 456 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: the bright side. How about Max Brozmer came in and 457 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: performed well seven for nine pass including one great one 458 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: to Jefferson. No turnover has led the game when he's 459 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: driving all that on very little prep. We'll get to 460 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: that via talking points as well. Hall of famer Mark 461 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: Rosen postca it was like watching a preseason game in August. 462 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: And that's the problem. It wasn't August, it's December. It 463 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: was a bad, bad football it's and that's why I'm sorry. 464 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: I can't attach the meaning to this game that koc 465 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: tries because they released another one of those postgame tapes 466 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: of his, you know, his speech after the fact, like 467 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, we just we just successfully defended pork Chop Hill, 468 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: and I just it just doesn't do anything for me. 469 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: It really doesn't, because I don't really think anything was 470 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: proven yesterday at all, Or maybe I should better say, 471 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you should have to prove that you're 472 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: not going to quit during a season coming off a 473 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: fourteen and three season. Maybe if you're the Giants and 474 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: you're bad every year, maybe there's no choice but to quit. 475 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to celebrate that. There was great 476 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: grip attached with doing what the Vikings did. And I 477 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: know we had more injuries. The New York Giants offensive 478 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: line was gutted. It might not have mattered, but everybody's 479 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: everybody's got a series of injuries right now. So to 480 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: act like there was any kind of meaningful threshold crossed 481 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: to me is silly. I'm never going to rip a 482 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: team for winning at this point that you just have 483 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: to play the season out and you have to try 484 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: to figure some things out. But to attach any sort 485 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: of big significance to any of these games, I think 486 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: is just because you want to, because you're frustrated that 487 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: the team is not in contention, and you want to 488 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: attach greater meaning to stuff that just doesn't have that 489 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: much meaning, especially when you factor in, as I said, 490 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: who the opponent was and the approach that they took. 491 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: It just it just it does not. None of it 492 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: adds up to me. And the number of penalties was ridiculous. 493 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: We can argue about the couple of the face mask 494 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: or should say the personal foul calls as well, but 495 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean the Vikings started that game with what record 496 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: of was it six and eight? Double check? What's our 497 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: current record now? Are we seven and eight now? I 498 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: think that's correct, that's correct. And the Giants started the 499 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: game with a record at two and twelve. Now they're 500 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: two and thirteen. And I tweeted this during the game. 501 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Somebody asked, well, you know, what are your thoughts. My 502 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: thoughts are, I'm looking at a game matching a six 503 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: and eight team that's a mathematically eliminated at two and 504 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: twelve team. Isn't that what it really looked like? So 505 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: then on the other hand, it's to pretend that there's 506 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: a great meaning because we made this play and we 507 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: didn't quit. We kept fighting and we hung in there. 508 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I just think if that's what you have to do 509 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: as a head coach to keep your team on your side, 510 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: then that doesn't say much for the group I I 511 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: just it doesn't. It just does not. This is the 512 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: part of the season you just tolerate to get through 513 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: it to the other side, to find out where you 514 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: need help, what you need to do going forward. That's 515 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: all it should be, not anything about really what necessarily 516 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: happened within the game. It was eye opening that really 517 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: opened the door to how much this team was interested 518 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: in performing. And again I thought McCarthy was very mixed 519 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: before he got hurt, I thought he had some nice throws. 520 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was as consistent as he had been, 521 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: even as recently as the week before. I'm bemoaning the 522 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: fact that the Vikings couldn't figure out what he draft. 523 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: Drake May. Who's with me? Well, you know we've talked 524 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: about that many times over the years. The Vikings clearly 525 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: coveted Drake Moore, Drake May, I should say, and by 526 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: all accounts they did. They made a significant offer. It 527 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: just wasn't significant enough to move up. They may like 528 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, but they I think they may not admit 529 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: this now. They loved Drake May, and May seems to 530 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: be indicating exactly why so many teams coveted him to 531 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: the degree that that they did. There's not one single 532 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: person who celebrated that game. I don't know who you're 533 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: arguing against when you make this point. Did you see 534 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: the postgame speech from KOC I mean serious, I mean 535 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: read some of the stuff that's been written about this game. 536 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: The idea that we you know, we we summoned something 537 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: up under adverse circumstances. Open your eyes a little bit. 538 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm not making this stuff up if I didn't start 539 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: today thinking that I was going to go down this 540 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: road at all, but I've kind of been forced to 541 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: on the basis of what I've seen and in some 542 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: cases what I've read. There's plenty of celebration going on 543 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: in this game or after this game. We may not 544 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: be looking for it if you don't want to, but 545 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: there has been quite a bit of it as well. 546 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: We've got a couple more texts in and as I said, 547 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: we do. We got Johnny at the top of the 548 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: hour and a bunch of good vikings talking points to 549 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: get to Dan. This is Stephen Miami. I think there's 550 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities with I bet you they have 551 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: a few higher a few more degrees than we do 552 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: right now, even though it's relatively balming here. Hey, I'm 553 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: going to guess eighty sounds about right. I think there's 554 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities with JJ McCarthy and Rob Dillingham 555 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: for different reasons. Course, JJ can't give us enough time 556 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: to evaluate him. I think Rob's just undersize. If you 557 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: can't thrive in the regular season survive, he's got no 558 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: chance in the playoffs. But now we found Bones Highland, 559 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: who is the Vikings Bones Highland. That's all we need 560 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: to find. Maybe it's broke, Maybe there's still there's probably 561 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: some Brose or Brownstone fans out there still think that 562 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: he showed enough yesterday that he should get a second 563 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: shot at this thing. I don't know it comes off 564 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: as me saying I'm done with JJ and that he's awful. 565 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: It's not what I'm saying today in any way, shape 566 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: or form. But I can tell you reading even the 567 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: tweets from there was a tweet yesterday from Tommy Kramer, 568 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: the former Vikings quarterback. What I sense is frustration sets 569 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: in even among players who might be rooting for McCarthy 570 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: if he just can't stay on the field. And I 571 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: don't think at any point they're casting aspersions on his manhood, 572 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: on his toughness. But it's all about evaluating players and 573 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: bouncing off what players do when they are out there, 574 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: and nothing can happen if they're not available, nothing, no 575 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: matter what promise they show. That's the dilemma we're in 576 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: here now. Maybe we'll find out whatever the injury was 577 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: that's sidelined him for the second half is not as 578 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: serious as we thought, and maybe he'll end up playing 579 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: the next two games, because if he isn't healthy enough 580 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: to play, he should. I'm certainly in that group that 581 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: says you play him as much as you can, you 582 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: give him as many reps as you can, but it's 583 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: hard not to wonder whether they're just going to be 584 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: depending again on what the injuries are, just going to 585 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: decide to be a little bit more cautious as well. 586 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: I thought JJ played pretty well. He's a gamer. A 587 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: few dropped passes, yes, a fumble interception on his fault. 588 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: With the injury situation, you definitely have to bring some 589 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: kind of capable that it could possibly be a journeyman 590 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: starter if needed. I have a couple ideas on names 591 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a little bit later that might be 592 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: gettable and more realistic, because the dilemma is obviously you're 593 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to bring somebody in who's making 594 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: a ton of money. That's probably not gonna be realistic. 595 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: And he would you even want a quarterback who might 596 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: be available as making a ton of money. Not If 597 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: his name for me is Kyler Murray, I have no 598 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: interest in pursuing him at all. Zero. In fact, if 599 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: my choices are Kyler Murray or JJ. I might just 600 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: say let's just keep going, let's keep our head down 601 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: and hope that again that the injury God's got whatever 602 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: they hold against him out of their system, and that 603 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: from this point forward he's gonna be one of the 604 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: healthiest quarterbacks in football. Interesting allegation here. McCarthy reminds me 605 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: of the fifth grade in house kid that fakes an 606 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: injury after a bad play. Every time McCarthy makes a 607 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: bad play, gets injured. Maybe it's an injury, but is 608 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: it really as bad as it seems. He milks it well. 609 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: He's probably referring again to the viral scene where the 610 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: trainer is grabbing it whatever it's on his hand or 611 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: finger and he winces as if I mean he jumped 612 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: like he was ready to faint. I'm here, I'm not 613 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: here to say that I think he is making up injury. 614 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: That's a pretty serious allegation to make, and you have 615 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: to have a little bit more proof for that. I'm 616 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: willing to just go right now with can't stay on 617 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: the field, And if you can't stay on the field, 618 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: the team can't wait forever for that. They have to 619 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: give themselves, as I said, viable options by the way, 620 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: I've not heard anybody here locally offer up any commentary 621 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: regarding maybe the secret weapon for the monsters Midway. The 622 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears a former Visus quarterback named case Keenum, maybe 623 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: the case Keenum magic. Even though he's not playing, he's 624 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: their third quarterback. I saw him celebrating after Caleb threw 625 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: the overtime touchdown pass. Do not underestimate the case Keenum 626 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: factor in Chicago, Illinois. If also you're wondering, are we 627 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: gonna have a ballplayer, I mean a Viking? Remember the 628 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: Vikings on today? The answer is no. Short week. This 629 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: of course is Christmas Week coming up, and the Vikings 630 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 1: play on Christmas Day. And it is amazing to think 631 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: how once upon a time when we were when whatever 632 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: the schedule got reversed I should say released, and we 633 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: went down it game by game, a lot of people thinking, man, 634 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: that could be that should be a great matchup on 635 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: Christmas Day? Are you kidding me? Division game? Lots at 636 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: stake and in this case not so much. Vikings eliminated 637 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: and Detroit Lyons in danger great danger of being eliminated 638 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: as well after they lost to guess who Aaron Rodgers 639 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: playing well yesterday and the Pittsburgh see you as I 640 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: try to tell you should have taken the plunge on 641 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: a Roger telling you, I think we would be in 642 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: a very different position today if we did. Don't text me, 643 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna text with the oral offensive, Loyd, 644 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: You'd already be dead. Some quarterbacks do a better job 645 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: of getting rid of the ball quicker than others. Let's 646 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: make this the top of the hour pause. And as 647 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: I mentioned, Johnny Athletic on the Purple, on the quarterback 648 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: situation on the Timberwolves, dare we ask him any more 649 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: hockey questions that tends to annoy Kevin Falness, that might 650 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: be a good reason to indeed do it. And in 651 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: the background we have let me give you an update 652 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: on something called the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. The Famous 653 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 1: Idaho Potato Bowl looks like early fourth quarter. Washington State 654 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven, Utah State seven. This is on the Blue Field, 655 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven to seven in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. 656 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 1: The Gopher's Meaningless Bowl is coming up later in the week. 657 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: All the action right here in the fat