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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to the Big Outdoors News Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW, Cincinnati, home of the Cincinnati Reds and the

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Speaker 1: best Bengals coverage. And uh gosh, we do have better

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Speaker 1: coverage than the Bengals played, didn't we. I think I forgot,

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Speaker 1: but I've already moved on, Danny. See okay, good Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What are all the sports turbuls doing around here? That's

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Speaker 1: what I want to know?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well I have cought some of that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, all right, So they got basketball occupied,

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Speaker 1: whether they like it or not, is that right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll leave that up to l those Gerbils for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Yeah, I exactly, there you go. Austin. Austin.

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Speaker 1: Rob Beckman is with me this morning. He is a

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Speaker 1: Cincinnatian through and through, and he is running for the

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Speaker 1: UH Board of Directors for the National Rifle Association. And

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think Rob, that I can recall

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Speaker 1: anybody from the area that's run for the board of

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Speaker 1: directors and much less as one a position.

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Speaker 2: So tell us, uh what what?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: I guess what was the impetus behind you running? And

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Speaker 1: I know that you're big in the shooting and the

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Speaker 1: outdoors and all that great stuff. And people will get

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Speaker 1: to tell you what was the impetus to get involved

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Speaker 1: directly with the NA.

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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, Chip, And and yes, I think I'm

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Speaker 3: one of the at least directly from Cincinnati that that

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Speaker 3: has ran for the board of directors in a long

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Speaker 3: long time. There's been people up north by Satan and

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Speaker 3: out by Lawrenceburg and different places like that, but I'm

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Speaker 3: the most recent that I've seen in my last thirty

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Speaker 3: years of being on being an enter A member that's

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Speaker 3: been running for it. So that that puts me in

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Speaker 3: a unique spot, which part of you know, being a

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati and you know, we go along and you know,

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Speaker 3: get things done, especially when you're an outdoors person things

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Speaker 3: like that. And for those people that are not familiar,

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Speaker 3: the Terra's gone through a lot of troubling times the

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Speaker 3: least ten years for it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I have really not heard where we are.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you're going to bring us up to

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Speaker 1: date on too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I won't get down into the weeks too

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Speaker 3: far about it, but basically ten years ago there was

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Speaker 3: a minor revolt among enter A members where we went

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Speaker 3: along started saying this isn't right. They really got on

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Speaker 3: the executives cases along with a loong the same time

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Speaker 3: the New York Attorney General started investigating it. That was

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Speaker 3: more politically motivated than anything to do with what the executives,

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Speaker 3: who the executives were and such. But the members kept

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Speaker 3: dogging the executives, and in the twenty nineteen Indianapolis enter

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Speaker 3: A convention, we went along and really challenged it on

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Speaker 3: the floor and you can see what the challenges were

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Speaker 3: on YouTube. The videos are out there.

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Speaker 3: Fast forward to twenty twenty four and the old executives

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Speaker 3: had done during that time, and a new generation of

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Speaker 3: the board gets elected every year, and back in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, I helped those guys get elected. For twenty

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Speaker 3: unpunished that the old saying goes because the enter A

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Speaker 3: board is an unpaid position. So I'm not making any

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Speaker 3: you know, getting any fancy suits or anything else like

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Speaker 3: a real passion for the Second Amendment of going along

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Speaker 3: teach fire and training both on your education is both

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Speaker 3: comes from politicians and comes from movies. And that's where

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Speaker 3: once you educate them about a fully semi automatic rifle

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Speaker 3: they start realizing that the gun is no different than

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Speaker 3: NRA is standing there for for you know, against common

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Speaker 3: your firearms, the proper ways that go along and and

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Speaker 3: use it? When don't you use it? A little bit?

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Speaker 2: Well, Rob, you.

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Speaker 1: Know you were well, fortunately you're preaching of the choir

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Speaker 1: because my audience understands all of that, as you well know.

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Speaker 1: But it's the best majority of people out there that

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Speaker 1: do not understand that. And so that's really where the

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Speaker 1: NRA can be become very important once again.

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Speaker 2: So Rob hold that thought.

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Speaker 1: We'll take this back up after the break the Big

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Speaker 1: Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati back in the moment.

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Speaker 1: Your cleanup has to begun with the agents and zeros

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Speaker 1: carpet cleaning after the holidays.

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Speaker 2: Your carpets are loaded with dirt, dozen dilegens only a

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Speaker 2: WLWSNTI stick around.

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Speaker 1: Gary Jeff is next, Mike Allen, and god knows what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen the rest of the day.

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Speaker 2: Are in this nut.

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Speaker 1: Nuthouse, you know, but it's all fun. Take us with

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Speaker 1: you the other heartmedia app. Rob Beckman is my guest

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Speaker 1: this morning running for the board of the nra A

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Speaker 1: as well. Is uh really out there with a proposal

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Speaker 1: we're talking about center fire rifles, Rob right, the bottleneck

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Speaker 1: rifles as a center fire rifle. Okay, And yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you've been Yeah, you're describing you know, the distance. You

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Speaker 1: know that the average distance or range of you know,

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Speaker 1: your bigger calibers, you're thirty odd six and all that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I've got three fifty legend and

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Speaker 2: Say you correctly?

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Speaker 1: And you know, but even though my advanced age and

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Speaker 1: why I've always been told that it's because you're you're

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Speaker 2: And who else is behind us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've We've got the High Rifle Fesscal Association behind it.

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Speaker 3: and people think about timeline. I started this about five

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Speaker 2: As a hunter, I don't need another gun.

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Speaker 3: I've got plenty you know that to do the job.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of get very interesting. I I you know,

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Speaker 1: He wanted a new rifle, okay, And I said, man,

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Speaker 1: the three fifty Legend is good for meal deer Okay,

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Speaker 1: but it is. It is, you know, it is designed

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Speaker 1: So it's like, why can't I use my two seventy

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Speaker 1: Which, like you, I've got all those guns, but now

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Speaker 3: Know, you know, once you got the butt's event for

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Speaker 3: you and me, we like buying guns, so that's nice excuse.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's it's just a bad habit, you know,

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Speaker 2: but we could be golfing, you know, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I through younger, new new hunters and things like that.

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Speaker 3: I think if you had a new hunter, somebody came

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Speaker 3: to you said, ship, I want to go in a

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Speaker 3: hunt and all that kind of stuff. And I got

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Speaker 3: my I got my grandfather's enfield that I want to

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Speaker 3: And that's not legal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't need to go buy all those obscure things,

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Speaker 1: so listen, just just don't make it too complicated for me.

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Speaker 1: So how can people find you, reach out to you,

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Speaker 1: Going to get very interesting, I I I, you know,

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Speaker 1: So how can people find you, reach out to you,

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Speaker 3: The easiest way is to send it to my personal

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Speaker 1: couple of news bits. Chip Hard the Big Outdoors News Radio,

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Speaker 1: path getting rid of all those cronies. All right, Operation

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Speaker 2: It's all over Facebook. Look for it. It's in everybody's mailbox.

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Speaker 1: Our harvest today Indiana, it's at one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: Be Safe in the woods and Safe on the water

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