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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell coming up at eleven o'clock and Kevin will

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Speaker 2: be followed as the head coaching covenant goes by John Hines,

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Speaker 2: coach of the Minnesota Wild. He'll be calling us from

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Speaker 2: California after a convincing five to two victory last night

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Speaker 2: to noon includes Packers play by play voice Wayne Laravie,

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Speaker 2: next segment Mick Tackett, Pat mcletty, a couple of segments

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Speaker 2: from now on set Wild describe Ben Gesling joins us

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Speaker 2: on air on site on demand, and he'll be on

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Speaker 2: fire at about ten o'clock and we begin with some

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Speaker 2: what if scenarios for you, just just some things on

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Speaker 2: which to chew as the National Football League postseason approaches,

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Speaker 2: sadly a postseason that will not include our Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: But what if Texans guard at Ingram provides the key

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Speaker 2: block to protect C. J. Stroud, who then hits Christian

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Speaker 2: Kurr for a game winning touchdown in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Ed Ingram our former guy, Eddie Ingram, Yeah, he ran

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Speaker 2: him right out of town here, didn't they? Now? Through

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Speaker 2: four years, teams using ed Ingram as a starter, all right,

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Speaker 2: are thirty six and nineteen. Ed Ingram's part of teams

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Speaker 2: that are thirty six and nineteen. Wow, when he starts

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Speaker 2: at guard and he only has one penalty this year?

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Speaker 3: What if the surging Texans emerge and advance and descend

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Speaker 3: to Super Bowl six zero and our former guy ed

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Speaker 3: Ingram has a lot.

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Speaker 2: To do with it? In good morning, good morning, Well.

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Speaker 3: The natives will be restless, The natives will be very

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Speaker 3: very irritated.

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Speaker 2: Ran him right out of town, didn't They ran him

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Speaker 2: out of town? Didn't need him.

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Speaker 3: I have a scenario for you that will also feature

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Speaker 3: somebody on the formerly part of the Minnesota mo company.

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Speaker 3: But to that end, you can't speak to good for

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Speaker 3: an am not just winning games with Davis Mills, but

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Speaker 3: then once CJ. Stroud comes back, defense has been the

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Speaker 3: bomb all year, right, best in the NFL maybe statistically,

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Speaker 3: and Demiko Ryans has that thing churning. They may be

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Speaker 3: actually earlier in the season having a similar conversation that

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Speaker 3: we've had about Brian Flores and the Minnesota Vikings, where man,

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Speaker 3: this defense is unbelievable. Wow, Will Anderson and Danil Hunter

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Speaker 3: are an unbelievable tandem of pass rushing tandems in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: We just need to find some freaking life out of

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Speaker 3: this offense, right, and got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: And c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud what is a year three? Now? Can he do it?

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Speaker 2: Does he have it?

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Speaker 3: And you can't speak to what they're doing offensively finding

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Speaker 3: their way to win games without without ed.

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Speaker 2: Ingram thirty six and nineteen as a starter.

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Speaker 3: At one point in time, at one point in time

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Speaker 3: now now Jaggs got off to a great start, really

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Speaker 3: haven't stopped so truly that the toast of the AFC South,

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Speaker 3: But it was the Colts at one point until Daniel

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're starting a forty four year old so,

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Speaker 3: that's not preferred so. And then the descending nature of

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Speaker 3: the Texans really felt real, the regression of what they

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Speaker 3: edd Ingram a ton of credit for working within that system.

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Speaker 3: Is he being coached up and if he's providing the

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Speaker 3: winning block at Santa Clara and the Texans are made

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Speaker 3: a freaking trophy, well THEO will be mad. The man

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Speaker 3: it's it's I truly believe this. Because of the wide

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Speaker 3: open nature of the NFL this year. Yeah, Houston can

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Speaker 3: get to the Super Bowl for sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean CJ's making all the right throws, and the

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Speaker 2: they're both a little banged up right now. Stingley's turned

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Speaker 2: think it's Kamari Lassiter. Lassiter and Derek Stingley Junior are

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Speaker 2: So if CJ keeps making these throws and that defense

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Speaker 2: or the Texans, Yes, the Texans can get to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl? What if? What if? From a Vikings fan

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Speaker 2: Chicago to the Super Bowl his first year on the job. Now,

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Speaker 2: what will bug our covenant with that? Is it a

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Speaker 2: division foe with a young quarterback who plays all the

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Speaker 2: games and seems indestructible. Is that Chicago has become the

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Speaker 2: target at which to shoot into twenty twenty six? What

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Speaker 2: would bug people if Ben Johnson, in his first year

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Speaker 2: Santa Clara Strut?

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Speaker 3: Well, the listeners, the listeners can certainly speak for themselves.

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Speaker 3: Six four sixty eight six branch On Bryan Kafan text

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Speaker 3: line of So and Clyde.

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Speaker 2: Ran, Eddie right out of town, didn't they from from?

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Speaker 3: For me, like, I've never had any sort of personal

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Speaker 3: animus against Kayla Williams, right, but but he plays for

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Speaker 3: so naturally I'm rooting for him in every stretch, by

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Speaker 3: every stretch of the imagination to have bad times against

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Speaker 3: the Purple in particular, he's been terrific and the coach

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Speaker 3: has been terrific, and the way that thing has had

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Speaker 3: the slow build the simmer to now offensively specifically, it's

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Speaker 3: it's a true boil right now with what they're putting

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Speaker 2: The frustrating factor.

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Speaker 3: For me would would not be to dagger Caleb or

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Speaker 3: great down here for the Vikings. Second year QB sadly

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Speaker 3: this week. Yeah, and that kid's rolling into he's rolling

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Speaker 3: into the bay. Wow, NOPA trophy and the Bears fans

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Speaker 3: we're getting videos from Lavelle at two am of him

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Speaker 3: smoking cigars, loving the Bears vibe at alleries.

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Speaker 2: I gotta deal with that now.

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Speaker 3: That is now one of the NFC Juggernauts, and we

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Speaker 3: gotta face him twice a year.

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Speaker 2: That would drive me insane.

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Speaker 3: The best thing, in my estimation, the best thing Ben

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Speaker 3: as in Ben Johnson and the Chicago Bears did into

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Speaker 3: the season was get offensive lineman Joe Toney, Yeah, Drew

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Speaker 2: And it worked and the way they did it, and

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Speaker 2: Nordo and I, I mean when they did it, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is a genius because you're making trades for offensive

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Speaker 2: got to deal with the Joneses. Joe Tooney, Drew Dolman,

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Speaker 2: before free agency. Then the first day of free agency,

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Speaker 2: Drew Dolman three years, forty two million dollars. Toony's a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. Joe Tooney is going to the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. They traded a twenty twenty six fourth for

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Speaker 2: Joe Tooney. Tooney has one hundred and sixty two starts

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Speaker 2: through ten seasons. He's only missed two games, and he's

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Speaker 2: a beef eating offensive lineman. Joe Tooney's a two time

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Speaker 2: All Pro, probably going to be three after this year started,

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Speaker 2: and won four Super Bowls for New England and Kansas City. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's next level maneuvering right there. Well, and

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Speaker 2: the cool thing is too is next line.

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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs had him playing tackle and so

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Speaker 3: kind of the stock was down on Tuney.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's like he's getting old, you know, he's trying to

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Speaker 3: He had some great days with Kansas City, but truly

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Speaker 3: his best days maybe with the Pats and their ability

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Speaker 3: to find him on the cheap. Again, the the proactive maneuvering,

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Speaker 3: I think Jonah Jackson might. I don't want to call

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Speaker 3: it found money because he's had some I think previously

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Speaker 2: Oh you nailed it.

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Speaker 3: But but I think that is of those three the

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Speaker 3: one that has probably maybe overperformed what one might expect

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Speaker 3: into the season. Again, part of what's happening with the Bears,

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Speaker 3: it's coaching, Uh, the evolution of talent, specifically on offense

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Speaker 3: and and Manungai right, you're getting sort of value there

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Speaker 3: of course, but the everything every string that they pulled

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Speaker 3: has been money. I mean, it's it's just been. It's

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Speaker 3: unbelievable year for the Bears.

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Speaker 2: What if Sam Darnold meets Aaron Rodgers in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: That's okay? What what if what if Sam Darnold meets

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones in a boot or with a sideline pass,

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Speaker 3: maybe Daniel Jones can do the coin toss? Would that

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Speaker 3: just be too much to take? Vikings fan six four

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Speaker 3: six eighty six. Yeah, that's would that be too much

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Speaker 2: What if Trevor Lawrence gets hurt and Nick Mullins enters

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Speaker 2: and elevates Jacksonville who was Super bowlver or even just

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Speaker 2: wins a playoff game? What if? What if?

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Speaker 3: What if he doesn't throw it to the other team

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Speaker 3: was thinking like offensive line scenarios. So you you mentioned

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Speaker 3: at Ingram, that's that's a big one. And you end

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Speaker 3: up with Will Fryes, who I think is ascended through

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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 2: So happy to have Will. This will be seventeen starts

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Speaker 2: for Will fries this weekend on a Minnesota moving company

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Speaker 2: with like twenty five different offensive line combinations. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a beat beating spot. It's in the trenches. It's incredibly physical.

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Speaker 2: Will Fries first year in Minnesota. Yeah, Covenant collaps worthy.

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Speaker 2: You made all seventeen my brother.

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Speaker 3: So but then think about out East Garrett Bradbury. Now

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Speaker 3: there are some on social media who are making him

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Speaker 3: sound like he's New World Jason.

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Speaker 2: Kelcey out there.

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Speaker 3: But there's part of the the availability conversation, specifically with

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Speaker 3: all five six that means a ton and could have

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Speaker 3: meant something to the Purple in twenty twenty five underrated

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Speaker 3: one what if scenario? Will Campbell, highly touted left tackle,

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Speaker 3: got hurt. Now reports are he's actually gonna He's missed

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Speaker 3: I think a month. Yeah, he's going to return to

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Speaker 3: practice soon.

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Speaker 2: Which makes Drake May's performances that much more grandiose or

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Speaker 2: are they?

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Speaker 3: Because I mean former Vikings sixth round pick Viderian Lowe

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Speaker 3: has started the previous four games.

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Speaker 2: It has played quite well, Are you kidding? Nimbles stead

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Speaker 2: for Darian Lowe starts for the for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: So what if? What if? Who knew? What if Will

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Speaker 3: The top of eventual top seeded potentially the New England

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Speaker 3: Patriots hoist another Lombardi, so then it's like, ah, e've

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Speaker 3: a empire is back.

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Speaker 2: joining us now one of our very favorites, Wayne Laravie,

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Speaker 4: Good morning, and happy New Year, Pa. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Dagger, what's your take on the work Ben

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Speaker 4: for Malik Willis because they were they were ready for

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00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: Jordan Love and when Malik comes in midway through the

436
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 4: second quarter whenever it was, they weren't prepared for the

437
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: dimension that he can bring to the offense with his legs,

438
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 4: with the Reid option, to that kind of thing. Now,

439
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: if teams are able to prepare for all of that,

440
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 4: and given a week, i'd be interesting to see if

441
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: he starts this week, how the Minnesota defense, which is

442
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: playing at an extremely high level right now, one of

443
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Speaker 4: the top four defenses in the league, If they're planning

444
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Speaker 4: on Thelik Willis to play this week, I'd be curious

445
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Speaker 4: to see how Malik Willis does against the defense that's

446
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: geared and planned for him.

447
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Speaker 2: Is Green Bay capable off this losing streaking with these

448
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: injuries weighing only coal? Is Green Bay capable of galvanizing

449
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: over the next week and change and potentially not only winning,

450
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Speaker 2: but winning a couple of playoff games.

451
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Speaker 4: The question is do they have the people to be

452
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Speaker 4: able to get that done? And that's the big question.

453
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Speaker 4: You know, they're missing at least five of their top

454
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Speaker 4: ten player, including a quite essential talent in Micah Parsons,

455
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: but you know also DeVante Wyatt, also Tucker Kraft, who

456
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: is ascending to become the best tight end of the

457
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: game overall tight end, and you know, without those guys,

458
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: it's tough. As Zach Time, their best offensive lineman hasn't

459
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: played in two weeks. So you look at these injuries

460
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: and you say to yourself, Okay, what do they have

461
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: can they Can they stop the run well enough? Can

462
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: they cover well enough without a major pass rush? And

463
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: that's that's really questionable. You know, I think they will

464
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: galvanize and they will do what they can. They'll do

465
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Speaker 4: the best they can. The question becomes do they have

466
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Speaker 4: the people left to step into those roles and make

467
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: a difference and that's the question that we'll find out

468
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Speaker 4: of the next several weeks.

469
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Speaker 3: Rookie wide receiver Matthew Golden with zero tds and zero

470
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: one hundred yard games outside of injury, has something gone

471
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: amiss there?

472
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Speaker 2: Wayne?

473
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Speaker 4: You know, it's he's a rookie in a receiving corps

474
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: that is fairly well established, and when Christian Watson came back,

475
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: that kind of took the role that they had for

476
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Speaker 4: Matthew Golden. So you know, has he had his ups

477
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: and downs? Yes, some of it has been injury related, yes,

478
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 4: no question about that. But I think he's also gone

479
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Speaker 4: through growing pains that are typical rookie wide receiver goes

480
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: to now mega talent like Justin Jefferson, from what I

481
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: can remember, doesn't go to any of those rookie issues

482
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Speaker 4: in his first year a number of years ago, But

483
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 4: most guys do go through some period like that. They're

484
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Speaker 4: starting to get Matthew Moore involved a little bit in

485
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Speaker 4: the offense, and I think they need to. But I

486
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: don't think this has been a lost year, but it

487
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Speaker 4: hasn't been as big a year as many of us

488
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Speaker 4: we're hoping for. And that's the combination of.

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Speaker 2: Reasons behind that last one here for Beloved Dagger. With

490
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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons out, who's Green Bay's best defensive player and why?

491
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Speaker 2: I would venture to guess Evan william guessing that from

492
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Speaker 2: afar he seems to be playing really well.

493
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Speaker 4: Oh, he's playing terrific football. He's the most instinctive player

494
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: on that defense. There's no doubt about that. You know.

495
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Speaker 4: Ederan Cooper hasn't had quite the year we expected, but

496
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Speaker 4: then again he hasn't been deployed the same way he

497
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: was the year before from the linebacking spot. He may

498
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Speaker 4: get a little more action up front as we go

499
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Speaker 4: forward here, but I would say Evan Williams has been

500
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: consistently one of their best players, if not the best.

501
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons was the best player they had, but without him,

502
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Speaker 4: Evan Williams is very important. He's a key. He's been

503
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: out a couple of games, he was he returned last week.

504
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: It was good to see him back. But he's so

505
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: valuable in that secondary.

506
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Speaker 2: Lastly, for your sake, hopefully this isn't for a month

507
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: and change, but what's the first ski trip on the

508
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: schedule once green Bay season comes to a conclusion, Beloved Dagger.

509
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Speaker 4: I've got some friends and we're scheduled to go out

510
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: to Park City, and it depends on when the season ends,

511
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: but we'll probably be heading out the week after it ends.

512
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: Wherever it ends. I hope it ends in Santa Clara,

513
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: but you know, based on the way things have gone

514
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: of late, that would be an incredible run. If they

515
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: were to turn away from the losing streak and put

516
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: things together and all of a sudden end up in

517
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, that would be incredible than their team

518
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Speaker 4: in two thousand and ten.

519
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Wayne, whether it's Montana, Park City, Provo Veil, or Aspen

520
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: or maybe Keystone. Are you all diamond? Are you all

521
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: black diamond trails all the time?

522
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: No, I'm a ice ski I'm a cruiser type guy.

523
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: I ski mostly. I'll ski black diamonds, but they generally

524
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: have to be groomed. And you know, there's one run

525
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: Deer Valley, stein Erickson's Run. It's called Stein's Way, and

526
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: it's a great run. It's a great roller coaster run.

527
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: It's a black but it's it's just super.

528
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Just like you, Happy New Year to you and your family.

529
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: Tell Larry I say hi, and I'll come up to

530
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: see you this Sunday before the noon kickoff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Wayne, sounds great, Pa, take care looking forward to it.

532
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: See you, buddy, Beloved Dagger Wayne Laravie, play by play

533
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: voice for the Green Bay Packers. To the Wild Around

534
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: the Corner. The Minnesota Wild are embarking on a fourteen

535
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: day road trip. John Hines, the coach, joins in a

536
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: couple of hours, but Pat mcletty, Elite hockey Mind, and

537
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: Mick Taka will join to talk about not only last night,

538
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: but those first two victories Winnipeg, Las Vegas Golden Knights,

539
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: the Celebrini Covenant tomorrow at three o'clock, but in particular

540
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: the Joe Hanson Boldie Eck line. I mean, it's valley

541
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: hood hole cow. It's just tearing it up every single game.

542
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: Let's mix in the Wild Around the Corner on kf

543
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: a M. Minnesota Wild started that fourteen day road trip

544
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: with the World Juniors in the state, and they beat

545
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Speaker 2: Winnipeg over the weekend. H that was a thriller. Last night,

546
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: not so much. They were up five to oh on

547
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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Golden Knights before the midway point of

548
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: the game, and the game was a t mobile in

549
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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Joining us now elite hockey mind Pat mcalletty

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Speaker 2: at Pat Mick two six two sixth via x and

551
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: here he is Mick Talckett, Paul Allen. How have you been,

552
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: my brother? I am I'm doing well.

553
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 6: It's it's good to hear your voice.

554
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: How are you? Likewise? Things are well?

555
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: And thanks for all the nice texts around Christmas and

556
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: during Vikings games and stuff like that.

557
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: And you know, with uh, with your hockey team. This

558
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: this if there's a line, I mean it, things change,

559
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: lines change, vibes change, really, you know, week by week.

560
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: But Joehanssen, Eck and Baldy, if there is, if there's

561
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 2: a line that's out playing that line significantly, I'd have

562
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: to hear about it. Those guys were on fire last night.

563
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: Well and they've been on fire all year, you know,

564
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 6: the times that they've been together, you know, sands injury

565
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 6: and such. But but but David Graaton and Joehanssen is

566
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: is a you know, just a completely took the season

567
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 6: by you know, he heard all every you know everything

568
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 6: last year what was going on and him not playing well,

569
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 6: and you know, and he came back on a minimum contract,

570
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 6: which really helped the wild in terms of getting other

571
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 6: guys and things of that nature. And you know, I

572
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 6: just think he said, you know what I'm gonna show you,

573
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna play hard every night. And you know,

574
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: the way he skates skifts opens up so much more

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Speaker 6: room for Eck and Boldie and and I mean he's

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Speaker 6: you know, he's been very, very consistent, and that's what

577
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 6: you want out of him throughout the whole year.

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Speaker 2: The the the penalty kill last night, it was a

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Speaker 2: road game, per usual, elite high end number one in

580
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Speaker 2: the NHL on the road and last at home. That

581
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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring that up with the coach, heines

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Speaker 2: a little later. It's such an anomaly the PK's number

583
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Speaker 2: one on the road and last at home. What any

584
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Speaker 2: any read on that?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll let him answer that one because he could

586
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 6: probably do it better than I. But no, there's really,

587
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 6: you know, nothing really changes, you know, per se. I

588
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 6: guess it all depends than the matchup and who you're

589
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 6: playing and is that power player going against really good

590
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 6: uh and you know, we just haven't figured them out.

591
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 6: But but for the most part, again, you look for

592
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 6: that consistency throughout your specialty team, throughout the whole year,

593
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 6: and you know, ultimately when it when it comes to

594
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 6: playoff time, it's got to be good at home. It's

595
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: got to be good on the road. Same goes for

596
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Speaker 6: the power play, same goes for the goaltending, and and

597
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 6: so you know that that's the best way that I can,

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00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 6: you know, make any sense of it, because quite frankly, Paul,

599
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 6: it doesn't make sense when you're when you're number one

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00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 6: on the road and not so good at home. There's

601
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Speaker 6: really no explanation.

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00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: Hey, Patrick, it's Nordo here, of course. The h Yeah,

603
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Speaker 3: I want to go good morning. I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: back to the Joe Hansen talker just for a moment,

605
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Speaker 3: that line that the level of production, not just last night,

606
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: but when they are all together.

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: You mentioned it.

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00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: It's been on fire for most of the season with

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Speaker 3: Joe Hans in particular. Is he potentially having the best

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00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: season of his career thus far? I know he missed

611
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: those games, but he's a guy that has kind of

612
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: popped to me, and I brought it up when I

613
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: chatted with coach Hines. I'm just curious, is it Johansson

614
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Speaker 3: his success of function of his line mates? I mean,

615
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: not a bad tandem to work with every night, or

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Speaker 3: some maybe some measurable things you're seeing differently with mister

617
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Speaker 3: Johansson himself.

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Speaker 6: Well, the knock got him. His whole career has been

619
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Speaker 6: consistency and him being I'm you know, I'm using my

620
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 6: own words here, but the way I see it is

621
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Speaker 6: him being satisfied. Okay, I had a couple of good games.

622
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 6: Now I don't need to. And so I think it's him,

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Speaker 6: you know, getting in his head. It's more of a

624
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 6: mental thing. I really, I really truly believe that in

625
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Speaker 6: him saying, you know what, I have that ability to

626
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Speaker 6: be really good every night? And am I gonna? Am

627
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 6: I gonna take myself there? Am I going to push

628
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Speaker 6: myself to be that guy? And I think, you know,

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Speaker 6: whether it be the off season conversations he had with us,

630
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: with the coaching staff and the general manager, or or

631
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 6: just him hearing enough of the fans and and everybody

632
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: else saying, you know, what where you been? What are

633
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 6: you doing? And and because listen, he's always been an

634
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: elite passer. If you watch him just walk, you know,

635
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: aside from his skating and and you know, is working,

636
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 6: he's always been an elite passer and and obviously an

637
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 6: elite skater. It's him uh pushing himself to beat the

638
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 6: guy in the corner, to get engaged physically, and we

639
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: and that's something we didn't see last year and and

640
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 6: and so I really just think it's him saying, yeah, boy,

641
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 6: this is kind of fun when I can, uh, you know,

642
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 6: when I can push myself and see how good I

643
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 6: can be. And you know, he's been terrific.

644
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: All right, Now watch out for a super dumb question here,

645
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: Pat Mick two six six Matt Boldy.

646
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: I saw this via X last night.

647
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Speaker 3: I think he's tied atop the standings in terms of

648
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: American skaters and their.

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Speaker 2: Point production so far this season.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, first couple of postseason appearances for him,

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Speaker 3: twenty two and twenty three, I think he just had

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Speaker 3: one goal in those respective playoffs. And if you remember,

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Speaker 3: even though it's it's tough to remember these sorts of series,

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Speaker 3: in that Vegas l in the end, he had five

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Speaker 3: goals across those games. Can you start talking about Matt

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Speaker 3: Boldi as it is now not all time but maybe

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Speaker 3: one of the best American born hockey players in the NHL.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think he's trending that way. I think he

659
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Speaker 6: has a ways to go. I mean, you're talking Mike MacDonald,

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Speaker 6: you're talking Phil Howsley, You're talking no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not all the time. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: not looking territory.

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Speaker 6: But but but is he trending that way? One hundred percent?

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Speaker 6: I mean, the kid's got twenty five goals right now,

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Speaker 6: and and you know what, And to me, it was

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Speaker 6: all about with Matt maturing and understanding and learning to

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Speaker 6: play in the playoffs, just like well, let's go back

668
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 6: to Caprisot when when you know his first playoff I

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Speaker 6: think he had one goal in the series. I don't

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Speaker 6: know who it was against, Probably Vegas because they seem

671
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 6: to play Vegas or Dallas every year, but or maybe

672
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 6: was the Blues. I can't recall. But but nonetheless, it's

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00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 6: all about learning how to play in those situations. And

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Speaker 6: I think Matt has matured, you know, beyond his years.

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Speaker 6: For look at how young he is. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: is he twenty five years old yet?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know his age. He's still pretty young

679
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Speaker 6: and still going into it in his confidence level. And

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Speaker 6: I think it all started where, you know, last year

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Speaker 6: with the in the foreign nations. You know that was

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Speaker 6: you know, heading the deer lights, right, you're playing against

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Speaker 6: the best, and I think right there he said, you

684
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Speaker 6: know what, I have that ability to be like one

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Speaker 6: of these guys. So the year he's having is just

686
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Speaker 6: you know you you know, he's on his way to fifty.

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Speaker 6: And guess what, he's a goal scorer to threes off

688
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Speaker 6: as a goal scorer, that's what their job is is

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Speaker 6: to produce points. And both of them, I think combined,

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Speaker 6: are right near fifty goals. And so, I mean that's

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Speaker 6: just astonishing and a big reason why this team is

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Speaker 6: where they're at.

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Speaker 2: Taking things were just so calm and poised last night.

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Speaker 2: I mean it began twenty six seconds into it when now, granted,

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Speaker 2: you know, Vegas took some fat als defensively, specifically leaving

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Speaker 2: the high slot open for that nice, calm Brodine pass

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Speaker 2: for the first goal. Yeah, but for the second goal,

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Speaker 2: Middleton's falling, all right. He catches the puck with his

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00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: gate going down to his knee. I'm thinking he's trying

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00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: to get it out of the d zone, but it

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Speaker 2: clearly was a design pass to Johansson, who then went

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Speaker 2: to ericson K and they created a two on one

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Speaker 2: and bold he scored his twenty fifth and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: holy cal was that poised? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: How about the effort by Middleton though, you know, I

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Speaker 6: mean that and that and that's what you're looking for,

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Speaker 6: right and and I mean that was that was like

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Speaker 6: you're playing in the playoffs type effort out of Middleton.

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Speaker 6: And then you know, yes, BOLDI made the finish. But

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Speaker 6: how about that passed by ericson Eck. That was you know,

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Speaker 6: he just waited found the spot in between the legs

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Speaker 6: of the defenseman. I think it was McNab. I'm not

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Speaker 6: you know, I think yeah, I think it was McNab

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Speaker 6: that he put it through and right on the tape

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Speaker 6: of Boldie and you know, Carter Hart had no chance

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Speaker 6: and you knew, h Boldie is going to go top shelf.

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Speaker 6: What you're supposed to do when you're in tight on

718
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 6: a goalie, you go upstairs because they're going down or

719
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 6: moving across and they just can't get it. And uh,

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Speaker 6: but but the past by Eric Sinek was was elite.

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Speaker 2: A lot of World juniors talk on Beyond the Pond

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Speaker 2: this this past weekend. Scott Sandlin was on Bob Moscow

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Speaker 2: and several others. What what excites you about the World Juniors.

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Speaker 6: Well, what excites me is that and more this year

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Speaker 6: and in the past four or five years, is that

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Speaker 6: we're seeing you know, before it was and it still

727
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Speaker 6: might be, you know, the top four Sweden, Canada, Finland

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Speaker 6: in the US. But you know, you look at the checks,

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, they've improved. Uh the Slovakia gave the

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Speaker 6: US a heck of a game last night. So you're

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Speaker 6: seeing more teams with more depth, which makes the tournament better.

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Speaker 6: And and and these young kids, I mean they you

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Speaker 6: know if I don't know if you saw the winning

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Speaker 6: goal by Chechia against Finland last night in overtime, Uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, three on three, the guy went through his legs,

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Speaker 6: goes top shelf. I mean, we're seeing skill level that

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Speaker 6: is just getting better and better and better every year.

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Speaker 6: And it is a really tough tournament to win. But

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Speaker 6: but you know, you're seeing your next wave of NHL

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Speaker 6: stars at this age and it's uh, it's just it's

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Speaker 6: very very much fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Who are who are some of the best Americans. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know you've.

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00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 6: Got the Hagens kid who plays at Boston College. You

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Speaker 6: have Brodie Ziemer obviously from Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 6: Will Zeller's who initially wasn't even selected to to be

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Speaker 6: part of this team, was added late. He's he's leading

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Speaker 6: Team USA with four goals in three games and and

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Speaker 6: you know, not getting a ton of ites. But but

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Speaker 6: all the kid does is is score goals. And you

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Speaker 6: know he's going to be a really good one.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He's properly the Boston Bruins via a trade with Columbus

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Speaker 6: at the deadline last year. And so he's a kid's

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Speaker 6: who's going to be you know, a star, you know,

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Speaker 6: as as his as he you know, grows, but you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, just an elite goal scorer. And you know,

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Speaker 6: back on the on the back end, they got you know,

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Speaker 6: a couple of kids. One kid from Wisconsin, Osbourne is

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Speaker 6: going to be good. Logan Hensley is going to be good.

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Speaker 6: Another kid out of Wisconsin. So I mean they're listen,

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Speaker 6: They're all talented kids and they just have to you know,

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Speaker 6: continue to grow.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Lastly, and the first first time I've had the privilege

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Speaker 3: of chatting with you on the radio, I'm about about

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Speaker 3: the wild with Quinn Hughes.

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Speaker 2: Since the big Quinn hughes deal.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the three defenseman defense pairs have been fortified. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 3: what what what are some facets, some nuanced to his

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Speaker 3: game that your trained eye genuinely appreciates.

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Speaker 6: Well, what I what I like about him is that

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00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 6: he's calm, he's patient, he knows what he wants to

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Speaker 6: do with the puck. A second and a half, two seconds,

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Speaker 6: you just watch him walk the blue line and and

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00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 6: he picks up something immediately. And once you see, once

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Speaker 6: he sees that opening, it's off his stick. And you'll

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Speaker 6: see a lot of guys walk the blue line, take

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Speaker 6: the shot and guess what, it gets blocked. Rarely different,

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00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: Rarely does his shot get blocked. He gets it through

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00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 6: and you know, his vision it just you know, and

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00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 6: and ultimately his skating ability, no one, no one uses

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Speaker 6: his edges like him, and you know, he just brings

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Speaker 6: that mindset every time he's out on the ice.

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Speaker 2: Great chatting with you, having new year to you and

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Speaker 2: your beautiful covenant, and to look forward to more of

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Speaker 2: these and more frequently in twenty twenty six. Thank you

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Speaker 2: Patrick Yep, Thanks to you guys. Thank you by bye,

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Speaker 2: mctalk and Pat mcalletty at pat MC two six two

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Speaker 2: the radio show. We are about one hour from Viking's

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Speaker 2: head coach Kevin O'Connell joining us for the final x's

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Speaker 2: and o's of two zero two five. He'll be followed

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Speaker 2: by Minnesota Wild coach John Hines calling us from California

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Speaker 2: about ninety minutes from now. Meanwhile, around the corner Ben Gessling.

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