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Speaker 2: What you just said? Take care of Polly Wally?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 4: How are you doing? I'm Ben?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Nine to noon?

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Speaker 1: We'll come in, We'll come in nine to noon.

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Speaker 1: Time for two more? How do I not get into

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Speaker 1: that collection of drops?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Please?

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Speaker 1: Well you I'm a caving publup. Welcome. Nine to noon

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Speaker 6: All right, Here we go this Wednesday, and the Dallas

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Speaker 6: Sports Intel is required on several levels. And we begin

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Speaker 6: nine to noon on this Chili Wednesday with Bob Sterm,

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Speaker 6: co host of the Hardline three to seven on the

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Speaker 6: ticket in Dallas, that's three to seven pm. It's bally

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Speaker 6: Hood and he also covers the Cowboys for the Athletic

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Speaker 6: and that's where we begin. Hey there twenty and snowy

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Speaker 6: here sixty five and sunny down there. Bob's a Wisconsin native,

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Speaker 6: so he always appreciates a good elevator chat, weather story

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Speaker 6: set up, My man, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Pa, always good to cross paths. Yet again,

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Speaker 2: I will tell you the athletic let me go a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, je, I'm writing for myself at

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Speaker 2: a little something called storm Stack. If you're into DFW sports,

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Speaker 6: So the recent stories which had a significant analytical bent

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Speaker 6: to them, that that's not for the athletic, that's storm Stack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all there, that's cool, man. How do people find that?

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Speaker 2: I think pretty much if you just find me on

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Speaker 2: Twitter or x or whatever at sports Storm, we'll get

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Speaker 6: Right at sports Storm to learn more about the star Boys.

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Speaker 6: And Bob also is a big Dallas Stars supporter, and

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Speaker 6: we're going to get into all of that with some

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Speaker 6: Dallas sports intel. Here was with a sports Storm and

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Speaker 6: I with the football game Sunday night, football vikings and

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Speaker 6: Cowboys probably going to uh, the Cowboys will probably attempt

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Speaker 6: to get a big one, I would assume from George

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Speaker 6: Pickens Sunday Night right off that last debacle.

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Speaker 2: I would think, so, man, he's been really really good

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Speaker 2: this season. But but obviously that last sighting in Detroit

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Speaker 2: was not a great look at any front, and so

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Speaker 2: that's that's been a talking point down here. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's there's no doubt that when Ceedee Lamb and George

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Speaker 2: problems because they're both you know, they're they're both the

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Speaker 2: type of guys that you would put up on the

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Speaker 2: board and say, this is our number one objective. But

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Speaker 2: many offenses do not have the do not have two

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Speaker 2: of them in the huddle. I know the Vikings have

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Speaker 2: enjoyed that from time to time, and and and certainly

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Speaker 2: this is a rare for the Cowboys, but they got

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Speaker 2: to They got to cook in offensively this season. That

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Speaker 6: George Pickens, he he's a first down machine, isn't he.

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Speaker 6: I think he has the most first down catches of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's an absolute stud. I think Pittsburgh, uh,

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Speaker 2: And Dallas is no stranger to to a guy like

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Speaker 2: time to time, so you know, we're used, we're used

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Speaker 2: to it. It comes with the dinner, I suppose. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's he's a dominant player. And the reason I bring

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Speaker 2: way more refined than that in terms of winning at

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, being a productive third down guy.

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Speaker 2: When he gets the slants going, you're just you're he's

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Speaker 2: what was so disappointing about that first play in Detroit

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Speaker 2: a good Thursday practice rep. But they were playing a

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Speaker 2: Thursday game. And when he's ferocious, he's unstoppable. But for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, he wasn't as ferocious against the Lions.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Bobby, defensively, how of Quinnon Williams and Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 2: Ben Quinnon has been dominant Kenny, you know, And this

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Speaker 2: he's really good in spurts, but obviously he's at the

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Speaker 2: So he has looked way better since Quinnon has joined him,

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Speaker 2: and so getting them together, that's that's formidable for sure.

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Speaker 2: And Williams is just such a player who changes everything

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Speaker 2: up run. What we saw with the Lions though, and

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Speaker 2: what we're starting to see every week is teams are

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Speaker 2: kind of just abandoning a lot of the between the

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Speaker 2: many other places. That's That's the story of the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: defense right now, is that they're in the process of

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Speaker 2: trying to fix it again. But so much has been

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Speaker 2: put in a defensive tackle now, which is hilarious. They

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Speaker 2: now have three different defensive tackles making twenty million dollars

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Speaker 2: and that's fixed. But now what about linebacker? What about edge?

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Speaker 2: What about corner? What about safety? I mean, it's there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of weaknesses on this Cowboys defense and that's

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Speaker 2: why their stats are so ridiculously bad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we saw we saw Seattle a couple of weeks

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Speaker 6: ago shut out the Vikings, And if there ever was

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Speaker 6: a demise of DeMarcus Lawrence, it's greatly exaggerated.

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Speaker 1: Holy cows, he still brings it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's he's a player that absolutely can wreck a game.

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Speaker 2: And I just don't understand why the Cowboys were so

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Speaker 2: quick to pretty much abandon both of their edges. And

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Speaker 2: you know, the Mica stuff has been talked about, and

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Speaker 2: of course his price tag is pretty happy. But DeMarcus Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: he just wanted to be loved. He just wanted the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys to act like it was a big deal that

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Speaker 2: you know, his situation was being reviewed, and they I

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Speaker 2: don't even think they made him an offer. And so

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Speaker 2: he's pretty sore at Dallas, and I think he has

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Speaker 2: every reason to be because that's that's a good football

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Speaker 6: Dallas borts Intel with one of the very best Bob

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Speaker 6: Sturm from the hard Line on the ticket in Dallas

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Speaker 6: three to seven in the afternoon. It's a drivetime show

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Speaker 6: and at Sports Storm via the X machine follow if

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Speaker 6: you are so inclined defensively for Dallas. Just continuing for

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Speaker 6: a second, deron Bland a pick six this year and

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Speaker 6: five and twenty twenty three. Is is he a habitual

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Speaker 6: route jumper or like the next Dion Sanders in the making.

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Speaker 7: Boy, If I were to say Pa I would say

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Speaker 7: he is a guy who is probably a very solid

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Speaker 2: And so if you're going to put those six pick

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Speaker 2: in common, and a lot of them are late throws

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Speaker 2: to his checkdown right, And so Bland sniffs those out.

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Speaker 2: He's great at that. But holy heck, he has the

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Speaker 2: fourth highest aav of any corner in the NFL right

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Speaker 2: now for a contract, and I think that is insanity.

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Speaker 2: He really is not a great cover corner outside the

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Speaker 2: a Jones family pr move because his contract was announced

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Speaker 2: about a day after the Cowboys traded Michael Parsons, and

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Speaker 2: it was kind of a here's what we do for

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying Bland is a bad player. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying he's a guy who is probably a top

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Speaker 2: But beyond that, I don't think Marvin Harrison, I don't

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Speaker 2: think heck, you saw Jamiir Gibbs dance him on Thursday

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Speaker 2: Night on a play where Bland just fell to the

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Speaker 2: think he's a really really good slot insert corner, but

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I just don't value him very high

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Speaker 2: you know area code. There are big time corners in

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Speaker 6: Bobby with the cow Boys, Bob one of the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: maximized this year. That's surprising to you, like like something

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Speaker 6: on which you know, maybe it didn't count, but has

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the story of their offense of line

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Speaker 2: is interesting because they've tried to rejuvenate the whole thing

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Speaker 2: and with youth, and obviously Tyron Smith and Zach Martin

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Speaker 2: of effort into Tyler Smith at left guard, and they

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Speaker 2: just drafted Tyler Booker at number twelve, which is which

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Speaker 2: you know, Tyler Geyton out there left tackle has been

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Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is they have a very

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Speaker 2: have an upside about them, and so they're a questions

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Speaker 2: could this offensive line make a difference? And I think

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Speaker 2: for the most part it's held up really well. But

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Speaker 2: more importantly, pa, I think when you look to like

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Speaker 2: of the strongest parts on the team. So I would

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Speaker 2: probably say pretty pleased with the pass protection. Dak does

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Speaker 2: a lot of it himself by getting the ball out,

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Speaker 2: but he's been pretty clean for the most part this season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dak's throwing the most passes of anybody in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: But with Javonte Williams and those eleven touchdowns nine on

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Speaker 6: the ground, it's clear the rushing attack had some significance

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Speaker 6: to it at some point of the season. But is

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Speaker 6: it fair to say, Bob, the last month and change,

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Speaker 6: the rushing attack and its potency has changed a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I mean, like Javonte has no one hundred yard game

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no, you that's spot on the successory, which

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Speaker 2: obviously does not account as much for the big play.

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Speaker 2: They had a big run on Thanksgiving against the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: that sort of saved the game for them, and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't even Javonte. It was Malik Davis for forty one

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Speaker 2: yard touchdown, as I recall. But the down to down

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Speaker 2: success rate is dropping like a safe And so first

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Speaker 2: five weeks they were top three in the league. Last

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Speaker 2: ten weeks they're bottom three in the league in terms

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Speaker 2: of success rate. So that's something to look at. They're

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Speaker 2: just not getting the first down five yards four yards

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Speaker 2: that they were getting earlier in the year. Is Javonte

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Speaker 2: getting tired or is the offensive line getting figured out?

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Speaker 2: And there's I mean, there's a lot of conversation around that,

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Speaker 2: but it's not the same. And so you know, they're

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Speaker 2: they're putting even more on Dak, and Dak's been fantastic

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Speaker 2: this year. I think this is some of his best ball.

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Speaker 2: But you know, there's nothing like a running game to

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Speaker 6: Last one on Dim Boys with a Bobby Bob Bob

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Speaker 6: Sturm at Sportstrm via X The Hardline three to seven

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Speaker 6: NFC East, Bob, Are the Eagles thinking like, hey, we

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Speaker 2: Boy, I don't know how we can look at the

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Speaker 2: You know, watching the Eagles as we do down here,

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Speaker 1: Your Dallas Stars are here tomorrow night. That one should

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Speaker 6: The Stars last night against Winnipeg, gritty gritty victory. That

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Speaker 1: Bobby is a Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Native in your faith, mil Lackey.

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Speaker 6: How how far do you think your Packers can take this?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the concerns I suppose are just the

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Speaker 2: get you know, Cowboy fans were frustrated, like, how come

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Speaker 2: Well you're not ahead, but boy, when you're ahead and

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Speaker 2: downplay it and say, don't get outeat of your skis.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying in.

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Speaker 5: The silence you hear is lambeau Field.

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Speaker 1: Let's finish with the boys.

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Speaker 6: When the Cowboys defense is getting in trouble, and it's

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, jeez, there's so many choices here. Pa.

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Speaker 2: They don't have consistent edg rush, they don't have enough corners,

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Speaker 2: I think when people talk about PFF grades, people roll

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Speaker 2: So I don't think the Cowboys can have a good

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Speaker 2: They need they have two first rounders next year thanks

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Speaker 2: And it's a good linebacker draft. But the Cowboys definitely

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Speaker 1: A man Sunday Night. I hope to see you.

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Speaker 6: You're fantastic, have fun on the hard line today and

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Speaker 6: we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, travel well, Pa, We'll see you.

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Speaker 1: See youybuddy.

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Speaker 6: That's Bob Sturm at Sportstorm A hard Line ticket down

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Speaker 6: Dallas Way. It's a juggernaut three to seven in the afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Ticket in Dallas. Vikings and Cowboys Sunday Night, seven twenty.

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Speaker 6: Part of the Timber Tech What's on Deck set list

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Speaker 6: includes Heinzi coach John Hines, coach of the Minnesota Wild,

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Speaker 6: the hopefully give us some updates on Zucarello and Middleton,

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Speaker 6: ranton In and the surging Red Hot Dallas Stars.

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Speaker 4: Athletics as well. Vikes Bites kind of is a coordinat

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Speaker 4: But then the coordinators speak, and Wes Phillips in particular

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Speaker 4: interested in hearing what he thought off Sunday's victory and

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Speaker 1: In particular, if you think.

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Speaker 5: How did you feel like those guys gelled in this game?

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Speaker 4: Is it too loud in the headset? Well, how are

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Speaker 4: they coaching him? What does the coach learn from coaching

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Speaker 4: a young QB. Are you kind of excited for this

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Speaker 4: thing to just continue to get better and get to

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Speaker 4: a spot where we just get to truly analyze the

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Speaker 4: goods and the bads of what's happening on the field

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Speaker 4: versus digging into the minutia of the coaching and the learning.

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Speaker 1: Well, the answer would be yes.

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Speaker 6: But what excites me with McCarthy is yes, the Final

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Speaker 6: four and what was created and started most recently against

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Speaker 6: a team that clearly let human nature win on many levels.

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Speaker 1: Dallas.

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Speaker 6: It's like six six and one, Well it Sunday Night

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Speaker 6: is everything for Dallas, standalone game, nationally televised beatable defense.

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Speaker 6: So the context of what goes into that step that's intriguing.

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Speaker 6: Then you get to the offseason and you figure out

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Speaker 6: or you wait to see which veteran quarterback that they

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Speaker 6: bring in to compliment JJ McCarthy. Then we get into

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Speaker 6: the twenty twenty six, you get x amount of games

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Speaker 6: with McCarthy, and then it starts to play into what

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Speaker 6: Anthony Barr and I chatted about yesterday, and it's the

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Speaker 6: franchise's willingness to continue to push through things with what

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Speaker 6: will be a twenty three year old quarterback who will

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Speaker 6: finish the season with what eleven or twelve starts, then

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Speaker 6: you started again, and you're still going to be tennis

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Speaker 6: starts from from where the average is for those who

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Speaker 6: are gifted who take off. So patients are going to

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Speaker 6: be required, not necessarily with the fan base certainly, but

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Speaker 6: with the regime personnel people, coaches and everything and seeing

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Speaker 6: if they're able to hold true to raising a gifted

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Speaker 6: young quarterback. Despite absolutely there are going to be some

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Speaker 6: moguls next year. It's all that excites me about McCarthy

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Speaker 6: Vikes bites.

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Speaker 4: Mister Flores, Brian Flores chatting about Dak Prescott and that

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Speaker 4: Dallas offense looming ahead.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I've got an incredible amount of respect for

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Speaker 9: Dak and Shoddy and you know that that entire group offensively,

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Speaker 9: this is you know, probably the you know, one of

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Speaker 9: the best, if not you know, the best kind of

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Speaker 9: receiver tandems in the league with with with George and

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Speaker 9: c d been doing pretty well over there.

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Speaker 1: That was with George and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 9: So we don't want to talk about a guy who

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Speaker 9: makes like incredible catches every day in practice.

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Speaker 1: That's that's George Pickens.

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Speaker 9: That's what I watched in Pittsburgh for an entire year

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Speaker 9: as a rookie. And so he's grown and gotten better,

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Speaker 9: and based on what I saw when I was in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 9: I'm not surprised by the years having at all and uh,

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Speaker 9: major major challenge and I'm not you know, Ceedee Lambs

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Speaker 9: probably sitting there going wide and me talking about me.

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Speaker 1: He's fantastic too, So.

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Speaker 9: You've got you know, I would say probably one of

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Speaker 9: the it's not the best, one of the best tandems,

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Speaker 9: you know, uh in football.

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Speaker 1: And how about that we doubled down on it to

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Speaker 1: get well.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's well, it's it's the conversation that we

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Speaker 6: got into yesterday that that you triggered than guesstline and

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Speaker 6: I went back and forth, Ceedee Lamb, George Pickens, Cavante Turpin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just get this young floor. NOI cat, I know

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Speaker 4: you're putting that. I mean that kid can play too.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, he's fast.

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Speaker 6: I mean he capitalized last game on Ceede Lamb leaving

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Speaker 6: the game with a concussion, and he very well could

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Speaker 6: be a three or two one day in his career.

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Speaker 6: He's very young, but he doesn't play nearly as much

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Speaker 6: as the top two. Turpin is one of the four

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Speaker 6: or five best returners in the NFL. Is he more

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Speaker 6: than a trick? You think I haven't figured it out yet.

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Speaker 6: He has two touchdowns this year, one rushing, one receiving.

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Speaker 6: He has a kick return and pump return touchdown from

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Speaker 6: last year. Yeah, there's no punt returner in the NFL

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Speaker 6: better than New England's Marcus Jones.

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Speaker 1: And it's not close.

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Speaker 6: The guy we saw a couple of weeks ago, Rashid

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Speaker 6: Shaheed ain't far behind him. Actually, then you get to Turpin,

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Speaker 6: like he split fast, but that's their nailer. Pickens is

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Speaker 6: their addison and both have had a side of mercurial

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Speaker 6: to them. Lamb and Jefferson same draft of CD goes

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Speaker 6: before Justin. Justin's had the better career until this year,

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Speaker 6: but CD's missed games with injuries. He only has three touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: Justin only has two. So the top three, Well, the

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Speaker 6: difference here is Prescott. I mean Prescott leads the NFL

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Speaker 6: and completions and attempts his yards for attempt to seven

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Speaker 6: and a half touchdown to interception. Ratios two and a

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Speaker 6: halfter one. He's only taking twenty two sacks. DA's getting

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Speaker 6: rid of the ball very quickly.

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Speaker 4: Is he a big box scorer or is he a winner?

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Speaker 6: He has in my estimation, for what it's worth, he

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Speaker 6: has elevated them at times, specifically in the Green Bay

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Speaker 6: game in the Philadelphia game, where he just has been

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Speaker 6: He's been patient enough to wait for the right thing

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Speaker 6: to break off. Even if it's not pickings over the

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Speaker 6: top for seventy turping over the top for seventy, it

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Speaker 6: might be this schoonover or Jake Ferguson or Javonte Williams,

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Speaker 6: who all of a sudden is catching it pretty well,

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Speaker 6: and he's dak is comfortable with what's being given to him.

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Speaker 6: But when he needs to dagger you, he has all

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Speaker 6: of the intangibles. They seem to be being used correctly

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Speaker 6: this year.

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Speaker 1: I big it. That's Vike Spits.

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Speaker 4: Brought to you by Thousand Hills Lifetime Graves to grass fed.

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Speaker 6: Beef fffee when we return. Mike Florio, ProFootball Talk dot Com.

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Speaker 6: This is nine to noon. Joining us now is a

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Speaker 6: Mike Florio Pro football Talk dot Com and NBC's Football

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Speaker 6: Night in America. That would be us against dem boys.

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Speaker 6: This Sunday is also an author, and in fact, two

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Speaker 6: years ago, Mike wrote a Christmas book called on Our

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Speaker 6: Way Home. Major review sites call it across between a

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Speaker 6: Christmas Carol and it's a wonderful life. Best way Mike,

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Speaker 6: good morning, and what's the best way to UH to

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Speaker 6: learn about on Our Way Home?

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Speaker 3: Do put in the title put in my name. You

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Speaker 3: can get the e book for ninety nine cents. The

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Speaker 3: print edition is a mere ninety nine. Get a stack

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Speaker 3: of them, give him out his gifts. You can just

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Speaker 3: check those you know, all those names on your list.

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Speaker 3: Boom boom boom, boom boom. It's a very good book.

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Speaker 3: Despite the fact that I wrote it. It has a

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Speaker 3: very positive message that I didn't intend as I was

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Speaker 3: writing it. But it's one of those things when you finish,

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, there's a pretty good message here

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Speaker 3: about reconciling broken relationships and also eventually not to get

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Speaker 3: too deep. But there may be some relationships that you

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Speaker 3: can't repair because the person is no longer with us.

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Speaker 3: You need to be able to forgive yourself for failing

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Speaker 3: to get it fixed before it ended, and and to

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Speaker 3: find that piece and move on, and there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of that that's woven into it. Plus it's also I

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Speaker 3: think a very interesting and compelling holiday story. So thank

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Speaker 3: you for a little runway. And also, by the way,

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Speaker 3: I've made the e book free three days already this

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Speaker 3: holiday season. I'm going to do two more if I

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Speaker 3: remember to do it between now and the twenty fifth.

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Speaker 3: So if you check PFT, you never know which day

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Speaker 3: you're going to show up and you're going to see, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's free today.

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Speaker 6: Mike is a barrister raised and trained. He's a lawyer

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Speaker 6: by trade. Than a pro football talk dot com took

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Speaker 6: place anymore.

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Speaker 3: Don't ask me legal questions. I can ask legal questions.

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Speaker 3: I turned in my license. No more free legal advice.

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Speaker 6: Now, I'm not asking for that. What I'm asking is

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Speaker 6: the lead character in On Our Way Home is a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: So therefore have you read it? Now? Therefore, how do

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Speaker 1: you know that because I read reviews.

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Speaker 6: Therefore, when you're writing about something you know so much

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Speaker 6: about the lawyer in trade, is there nuance that you

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Speaker 6: can share that like helps with the common threads and

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Speaker 6: things with the book.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that drives me crazy about legal

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Speaker 3: shows and movies and books. Is when the procedural stuff,

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Speaker 3: the nuts and bolts, the nitty gritty just don't ring true.

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Speaker 3: And you can tell that the person who wrote it

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Speaker 3: has no concept of how things really work and didn't

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Speaker 3: consult with anyone who does. So that's one of my

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Speaker 3: pet peeves. So it's very authentic in the things that happen.

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Speaker 3: Although the legal stuff is confined to the early chapters,

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Speaker 3: it really goes in a different direction from that. I'm

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Speaker 3: working on one now, by the way. That is a

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Speaker 3: former football player who has gone to law school. He

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Speaker 3: has just started his new job at a big, swanky firm,

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Speaker 3: and when he gets home from work, he finds out

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Speaker 3: that one of his former teammates has broken out of

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Speaker 3: prison and is hiding in his house. And it goes

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Speaker 3: from there, and it's very heavily involved in the whole

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Speaker 3: legal process, and you know, courtroom stuff, and it's all

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff that I lived and experienced and

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Speaker 3: I know like the back of my hand. So I

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Speaker 3: weave a lot of that into it. To make it real,

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Speaker 3: it's got to ring true, and it's got to seem

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Speaker 3: real and plausible, or anyone who reads it who knows

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Speaker 3: how things really work. It's like, ah, this is a

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Speaker 3: bunch of crap.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: And and I'm not going to say you have a

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Speaker 6: gambling bent to you, but you cover the league so

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Speaker 6: well and with the NBA and stuff. Also there have

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Speaker 6: been some legal gambling related things that have popped up

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Speaker 6: the Portlands row Blazers with Johncey Billups and like Terry

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Speaker 6: Rozier with the Miami Heat of late to take that barrister,

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Speaker 6: that barrister training and the way things are emerging within

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Speaker 6: pro sports with hands getting caught in proverbial cookie jars there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there has to be something there moving forward

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Speaker 6: from a book standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, if you had read Big Shield, you would

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Speaker 3: know that it's already there. I say, more presaged the

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Speaker 3: Terry Rozier thing, although the Jhontay Porter scandal happened a

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Speaker 3: couple of years ago and it's the same thing as

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Speaker 3: Terry Rozier. For whatever reason, Rosier is a bigger scandal

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Speaker 3: because it's tied up in the whole rig poker game

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Speaker 3: thing and they made a big deal about the indictments

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Speaker 3: of thirty plus people. But that potential is out there

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Speaker 3: and where I come at this from the gambling perspective.

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Speaker 3: You know, my dad was a bookie back in the

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Speaker 3: days when it was all illegal and there was a

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Speaker 3: stigma to it, and one of the things he always

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Speaker 3: preached to me is you can't win. And that's one

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Speaker 3: of the things I try to bring to the table

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Speaker 3: at a time when everyone in media and I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to look and there's no one to call out

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Speaker 3: because everybody's hands are Everyone in media is now a

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Speaker 3: part time gambling tout, and they're all getting paid directly

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Speaker 3: or indirectly by the major sports books. And this isn't

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Speaker 3: like the stock market. You can't consistently win. You can

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Speaker 3: fool yourself into thinking you're going to win, but if

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Speaker 3: you think this is going to help you pay bills

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Speaker 3: or financial lifestyle, you're crazy unless you're the outlier that

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Speaker 3: really does have a system that works for the most part.

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Speaker 3: It's just like young kids who like the dopamine rush

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Speaker 3: and who are smitten by this idea that this is

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Speaker 3: going to make them rich. And I said this today

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Speaker 3: on PFT Live. Anyone, anytime anyone tells me how much

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Speaker 3: they want on some crazy twelve leg parlay, I say, okay, now,

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Speaker 3: let's sit down and list all the times you've lost,

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Speaker 3: and let's compare the two numbers, because look, these companies

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Speaker 3: would not have billion dollar valuations if they were losing.

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Speaker 3: They're winning. They're winning our money. And I'm not saying

654
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: don't do it. I'm saying that we all need to

655
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: understand that going in the industry doesn't do nearly a

656
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: good enough job to make people understand the realities of gambling,

657
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: and they have no incentive to do so because that

658
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 3: scares people away or at least causes them to be

659
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: a little more careful. They want people to bet. Look,

660
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Speaker 3: I don't want to say too much, but I at

661
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: some level from a business standpoint, when your commodity is money,

662
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: you want people to spend as much of their money

663
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Speaker 3: as they reasonably can. And there have been stories already

664
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Speaker 3: of situations where, you know, there was the Jaguars employee

665
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: who stole twenty million plus from the organization and was

666
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: gambling recklessly. And part of the allegation there is that

667
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: the sports book new or should have known this guy

668
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: was betting well beyond his means, and instead of saying, hey, hey, hey, hey,

669
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Speaker 3: is this something you should be doing, it was just

670
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Speaker 3: like we'll take it. If you got it, we'll take it.

671
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Speaker 6: And lastly here and I bet you were about the

672
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 6: same age and the movie The Gambler with James Kahn,

673
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: remember that way back in the day. Yes, and there

674
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Speaker 6: was a new one might have been Matt Damon playing

675
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Speaker 6: the role. But there was a scene at the end

676
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 6: of that movie, The Gambler that is just so metaphorically

677
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 6: true to that bora where he's watching the Lakers game

678
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Speaker 6: while he's in the bathtub. Final shot goes up that's

679
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: going to settle the game and the point spread he

680
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 6: goes underneath the water, comes out of the water. He

681
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 6: of course lost, gets out of the tub, cuts his

682
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Speaker 6: face with his razor so he knows what real pain

683
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Speaker 6: feels like, and then the movie was over.

684
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Speaker 1: I mean that was phenomenal.

685
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Speaker 3: Hey, another good win in that same genre and toward

686
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Speaker 3: that same message. Uncut Gems with Adam Sandler, I think

687
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: one of his best movies ever, where you've got the

688
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 3: chronic gambler who's always looking for the action and who

689
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Speaker 3: believes that you know, I'm one better way from solving

690
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: all my problems and turning my life from a crap

691
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: show into everything is great, and that mentality over the

692
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 3: long haul. Unless you are ridiculously lucky and no one is,

693
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: it's going to come back to bite you at some point.

694
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Speaker 3: And it's just too much of your life to put

695
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Speaker 3: on the line for something over which you have no control.

696
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: And again, it's all it's all just set up just

697
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 3: enough so you're not going to consistently win. If anything,

698
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 3: you're going to consistently lose.

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Speaker 6: Mike Florio, ProFootball talk dot com. The Vikings get shut out,

700
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 6: then shut out, somebody positive step taken by the quarterback.

701
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Speaker 6: Now it's off to Dallas and Sunday night football.

702
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Speaker 1: What do you think?

703
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I hadn't thought about that. When's the

704
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 3: last time someone got shut out and then turned around

705
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: and pitched a shut out? That probably doesn't happen, but

706
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: it was a much needed reset for this team down

707
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: the stretch. Someone was telling me yesterday, even if the

708
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: Vikings win the last four of their chances of making

709
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs or less than one percent, and look, I

710
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: know it's percentage chance to make the playoffs season. I

711
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: hate those numbers. Last week everyone was all the Cowboys

712
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: have no chance, that it's a five percent chance or whatever.

713
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: It's like, wait a minute, this isn't crazy. They win

714
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: in their last four and the Eagles go, what is it?

715
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: Two and three? I think is what they need to

716
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Speaker 3: go and you know, now they've now they've lost three

717
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: in a row. They go two and two and the

718
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: Cowboys go four and oh and they win the division.

719
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Speaker 3: I don't need a percentage to tell me, hey, that

720
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Speaker 3: has a chance of happening, and let's just watch the

721
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: games and see what occurs. So the Cowboys very much alive,

722
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: the Vikings barely alive. Whoever loses this game is either

723
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Speaker 3: mathematically and or essentially done. So there's a little juice there,

724
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: and I feel like, why didn't they flex out of

725
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 3: this game? Well, it's the Cowboys, and you know, both

726
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: teams are still fighting. Both teams are still in it.

727
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams that are already out for

728
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: as wide open as it is at the top, there

729
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: are a bunch of teams like an unprecedented at least

730
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: for the last twenty four years. So that's not unprecedented,

731
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: but it's been a long time that this many teams

732
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: have officially had the fork stuck in them by this

733
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Speaker 3: point in the season.

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Speaker 6: Any idea, p FT, at least that you can share

735
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Speaker 6: why this game stayed on Sunday Night Football when there

736
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 6: are absolutely a handful of games with markedly more intrigue

737
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Speaker 6: from a late season playoff standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Well, remember, it's always the NFL's call, and there's always

739
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 3: lobbying that every network does. There are ways that networks

740
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: can protect certain games, and then there are these weird

741
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: little rules excuse me, like for a home and home

742
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: vikings Packers, for example, one of those two games has

743
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: to be on Fox every year. So if one of

744
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: them is already due to be in primetimer has already

745
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: been played in primetime, the other one has to stay

746
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 3: on the afternoon network. So that's part of it too.

747
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of different factors in variables and rules

748
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: that go into it. And up until like the last

749
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: few weeks the season, it's a thirteen day turnaround. So

750
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are the Cowboys, and there's a certainty in

751
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: the audience size that you're going to have for any

752
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 3: Cowboys game no matter what. And I think that was

753
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: part of it too. But the league makes these decisions.

754
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: They decided to flex out Bengals Dolphins the following weekend

755
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: for Patriots Ravens, and if the Bengals had held their

756
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: ten point lead against Buffalo on Sunday, I don't think

757
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Bengals Ravens Bengals Dolphins gets flexed out. So there's a

758
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: lot of things that go into it, and it's ultimately

759
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: the NFL's call, and I don't get consulted or informed

760
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: until the decisions are official.

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Speaker 6: One of those games, Packers at Denver Sunday afternoon. What

762
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 6: do you make of this one? The Broncos have won

763
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Speaker 6: ten consecutive but just two by more than two scores,

764
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Speaker 6: and Matt Lafleur, I think he's twenty one and four

765
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Speaker 6: in December. That might be the best record in the

766
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Speaker 6: history of the NFL in December football.

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Speaker 1: This one is bally Hood.

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Speaker 3: And I also believe that the Packers are favored in

769
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: this one. Last I saw it was two and a half.

770
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: Not that that's just positive, but just gives you an

771
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: idea of what the perception is of the Denver Broncos.

772
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: And they are two and a half point home underdogs

773
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 3: riding at ten point winning streak because the Packers are legit,

774
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 3: and they had that two week stretch at home where

775
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: they lost to the Panthers and the Eagles, and they

776
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: scored twenty points total in the two games, and it

777
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: really felt like they were flawed and they were in

778
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: a funk. They've broken out of that in a big way.

779
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: Now they're in first place in the division and they're

780
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: one of these teams that has a shot at the

781
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Speaker 3: at the number one seed. You know, those ties become

782
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: very handy when it's time to apply to tie breakers

783
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: because you don't have to. The Packers are either going

784
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: to make it by a half game, are going to

785
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: miss it by a half game. We're not going to

786
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 3: have to look at head to head, division records, common opponents,

787
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: all those various tiebreakers because that one tie unless there's

788
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: another tie that complicates things. And I was thinking the

789
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 3: other night, oh God, the Eagles are going to tie,

790
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: and it's really going to screw things up in the NFC.

791
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: But those those two teams, Cowboys Packers with the and

792
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: one makes it a lot easier to sift things out.

793
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: And you know, the Packers could slip in under the

794
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: door with the division title or with the number one seed.

795
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Speaker 6: Philip Rivers, Holy cow, forty four, he's going to the

796
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Speaker 6: Golts practice squad. You know, I just saw on Pro

797
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 6: football talk dot Com, but I think it recently was

798
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Speaker 6: replaced with should Cowboys be concerned with Pickens' effort? But

799
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 6: it was like, you know, in a stunner Philip Rivers

800
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Speaker 6: pro football Talk dot Com returns at age forty four,

801
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Speaker 6: he hasn't played since twenty twenty. Could we replace stunner

802
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Speaker 6: with ridiculous? I mean, is this just ridiculous or what

803
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 6: do you think?

804
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Speaker 3: Well, this was one of those occasions where when the

805
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 3: tweets start to pop up on Monday, my first thought

806
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: is somebody got hacked, or it's one of those where

807
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: they just changed one letter of the person's handle to

808
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: try to dupe people. It's the same reaction I had

809
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: when Andrew Luck retired out of the blue in August

810
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen. And here we are with the Colts.

811
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: They've got this revolving door of quarterback. They finally find

812
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: something in Daniel Jones. He's lost for the season on Sunday.

813
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: By Monday, Rivers isn't just agreeing to show up and

814
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: worked out. He worked out Monday night. I think that

815
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Speaker 3: once they lost Anthony richardson Week six, you know they

816
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 3: still had twenty two days in the trade window, they

817
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: could have traded for a veteran. I think they decided

818
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: our emergency option, our insurance policy is Philip Rivers is

819
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: going to come back if we need him. He and

820
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: Shane Steiken keep in touch. They've been together many years

821
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: during their mutual time with the then San Diego Chargers

822
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: and eventually LA Chargers. But I think this is what

823
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: the Colts decided. We're going to go Daniel Jones, Riley Leonard,

824
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: Brett Rippon, and if we lose Jones, we're gonna activate

825
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: the bats signal for Philip Rivers. And now we'll see.

826
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Speaker 3: You know, we saw Tom Brady play at a high

827
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: level at forty four. There haven't been many guys of

828
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Speaker 3: that vintage who have played quarterback in the NFL. I

829
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 3: think the only other guy older than Philip Rivers to

830
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: play quarterback other than Brady is Steve de Bergh. So

831
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Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see. It's just one of those that is,

832
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: like you know, I said earlier today, it's like going

833
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: to see a movie that you expect to be bad,

834
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: but you're really not. You know, like you kind of

835
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: know that going in, and maybe I'll be entertained and

836
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: maybe it won't be bad, maybe it will work out.

837
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Speaker 3: It's just one of those unexpected, unforeseen curve balls that

838
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: come out of nowhere, and we'll see and even look

839
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Speaker 3: even with Peyton Manning in his prime Seahawks forty nine, Ers, Jaguars,

840
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: Texans to finish the season, it's a tall order for

841
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: the Colts to keep it alive, and they would become

842
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: the sixth team since the merger to start seven and

843
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: one or better through the first eight games not make

844
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and the first team to do that with

845
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: the seven spots in the postseason per conference.

846
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Speaker 6: P FT, time for two maybe one more. Dang the Vikings, Chiefs,

847
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 6: and Ravens combined for forty one wins last year and

848
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 6: all are going to miss the playoffs.

849
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Speaker 1: What do you think about that?

850
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing. And hey, look at Sunday night to

851
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: Monday night the two Super Bowl quarterbacks. Just today was

852
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: the ten month anniversary of Super Bowl fifty nine, and

853
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: we came out of the twenty twenty four season thinking,

854
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: you know, why won't it be the Chiefs and Eagles

855
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 3: all over again? And between Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts,

856
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: they combined for zero touchdowns rushing or passing, eight turnovers,

857
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: and a passer rating if you take their numbers and

858
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: slap them together and run them through the calculator twenty

859
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: five point twenty nine with their joint passer rating. So

860
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: things have changed. We have a graphic that we use

861
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: on PFT Live that shows the top teams in the

862
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: AFC with pictures of Bo Nicks and Drake May. And

863
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: I said to Chris Sims the other day, if I

864
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: had told you a year ago, just one year ago,

865
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Speaker 3: that this is what it was going to be heading

866
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Speaker 3: down the stretch in twenty twenty five, Patriots on a

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Speaker 3: ten game winning streak with May, with the Broncos on

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Speaker 3: of four weeks, you're gonna be ahead of Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: and the Ravens, Josh Allen and the Bills in the

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, We're going to the Super Bowl. No,

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Speaker 3: you're barely making it to the playoffs because everybody's down

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Speaker 3: it contributes to this sense that it really is wide open.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I don't know. I think right now,

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Speaker 3: I think right now, and they may be peaking too soon.

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Speaker 3: Right now, the Seahawks are the team that I'd say, hell,

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Speaker 3: they can win this thing. But as we know from

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Speaker 3: Week eighteen of last year, you never know when the

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Speaker 3: chariot's gonna morph into a pumpkin from Dram Darnold.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Rams are four to one. That's kind of

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Speaker 6: a been favored at this stage of the equation. Hey,

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Speaker 6: you're fantastic. Uh, talk to you soon and once again

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Speaker 6: on our way home. Mike Florio's Christmas book from a

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Speaker 6: couple of years ago. You can find that at Amazon

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Speaker 6: and other places you buy books.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Michael, Thank you Mike Florio.

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Speaker 6: P FTA, you know we some hockey with a new

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Speaker 6: friend named Olivia King is around the corner.

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